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02:13.47 | mturquette | i've tried writing an updated version of external-csl-toolchain_2006q3-27.bb for csl's 2007q3-51 for use in poky (making use of POKYMODE and all that) |
02:14.42 | mturquette | everything looks OK, but libgcrypt dies trying to link against my host /lib/libc.so.6, which is a Bad Thing. |
02:15.46 | mturquette | i think it is related to the way binconfig selects the directories to look in. does binconfig.bbclass not know if a package is native or not? |
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03:34.29 | Tartarus | heh |
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06:30.04 | Kalemas2 | Hello. I build linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.21-hh20 and my error: scripts/mod/sumversion.c:384: error: 'PATH_MAX' undeclared. How i need fix it? |
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07:27.37 | robtow | i trying to get bitbake up on a new centos 5.2 box |
07:29.20 | robtow | and I get a message that says the sanity checker has detected a problem, and get asked to install "a missing utility - C++ compiler" |
07:29.33 | robtow | Yet I can invoke gcc just fine from a command line |
07:29.36 | robtow | ??? |
07:43.15 | Kalemas2 | what says gcc --version? |
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08:09.08 | czr_ | using stable here, problem getting libsdl-native downloaded because of md5sum mismatch. where are the sums stored so I could try to manually verify it? (qemu-native depends on it) |
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08:23.36 | czr_ | ah, nevermind. found it (an .md5 file in the downloads, removed both the download and the .md5 and now fetch works) |
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08:32.23 | methril | morning |
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09:52.04 | mmp_ | Hello, any idea what could be pulling external-toolchain as a dependency, even though I use crosscompiler built in OE? |
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09:53.13 | mmp_ | namely glib-2.0, popt and avahi seem to need it (always in do_configure and do_package) |
09:53.34 | mmp_ | and my image bbfile in do_rootfs |
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10:39.06 | thebohemian | mmp_: bitbake -g ? |
10:39.37 | thebohemian | mmp_: I know the output is a bit broken but one should be able to decipher it ;) |
10:39.40 | mmp_ | thebohemian: already did that; looks like this is issue with gettext being replaced with proxy-intl |
10:40.29 | thebohemian | mmp_: uh oh. gettext stuff. woglinde's domain ;) |
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10:41.58 | mmp_ | thebohemian: :-) well, woglinde yesterday proposed change to proxy-intl, unfortunately I wasn't able to catch him when I've noticed that it pulls external-toolchain as well... |
10:43.46 | mmp_ | bbl |
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11:00.49 | nik0n | anybody can supply me with a suggestion for a read/write ram fs? currently i use squashfs but this is r/o. i search a fs that is loaded into ram and the is r/w |
11:00.53 | nik0n | so i can modify files |
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11:02.44 | pb__ | squashfs with a unionfs overlay (say, tmpfs)? |
11:02.48 | pb__ | or ext2 in a ramdisk |
11:04.44 | nik0n | i dont like unionfs (to lazy) :) |
11:04.59 | nik0n | ext2 in ram? wont it be complain about block errors and such? |
11:05.40 | broonie | or tmpfs, for that matter. |
11:05.58 | pb__ | you can't preload tmpfs at boot time, can you? |
11:06.14 | pb__ | I guess you could make an initrd and copy it into tmpfs with some linuxrc script, but that seems like a lot of hassle. |
11:06.25 | nik0n | i can, but i have to modify file sin /etc during bootup. its the ipkg configure packages on first boot stuff |
11:06.34 | broonie | Yes, that sort of thing. |
11:06.44 | broonie | nik0n: See the recent thread on oe-devel about this. |
11:06.57 | nik0n | yeah this is my thread :) |
11:07.12 | pb__ | if it's just the ipkg configure thing, you should probably fix your packages to not need it. |
11:07.19 | nik0n | but i dont want to implement everything in the image creation process |
11:07.24 | pb__ | or use qemu, didn't we talk about this before? |
11:07.28 | nik0n | some init stuff on bootup is fine for me now |
11:08.06 | nik0n | maybe i stick with the OE implementation part |
11:08.18 | pb__ | okay, fair enough. |
11:08.27 | nik0n | gonna give it a try |
11:08.31 | pb__ | well, above you have three suggestions for your filesystem. I guess any of those would work fine. |
11:09.04 | nik0n | yes. but the rootfs has to be created fully automatic, so the qemu suggestion will not work |
11:09.18 | nik0n | or i will build a wemu class for such stuff |
11:09.20 | pb__ | why not? qemu is eminently scriptable, see the locale generation. |
11:09.44 | nik0n | s/wemu/qemu/ but then, i think the suggestion with building it into OE like on the list is better |
11:09.47 | nik0n | and faster |
11:10.13 | nik0n | gonna ty now |
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11:44.04 | zecke | thebohemian: normal people go to bed at 5 am... |
11:47.20 | alphaone | zecke: I was normal this weekend |
11:51.28 | XorA | 5am, thats a bit early |
11:57.15 | CIA-26 | 03Carsten Haitzler (Raster <raster@rasterman.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r00060838e9 10openembedded.git/packages/e17/e-wm_svn.bb: e-wm: fix package to include AUTHORS and COPYING |
12:04.29 | pb__ | zecke: good morning |
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12:10.41 | zecke | pb__: hey |
12:11.04 | zecke | pb__: you are right on the binary cache, it just saves parsing time... not validation time |
12:21.24 | pb__ | zecke: right. I was surprised how little time it saved, actually: I would have expected the xml parsing to be slower. |
12:21.46 | pb__ | evidently GMarkup is more eleet than I gave it credit for |
12:23.14 | zecke | pb__: hehe, or their mmap code is incredible bad :) |
12:23.34 | pb__ | heh. well, yeah, mmap is a fairly slow operation. |
12:23.45 | pb__ | I wonder if it would be quicker to just read() the file into a temporary buffer. |
12:24.51 | zecke | pb__: are ou serious? madvise and mmap should be fast... I need to measure it once :) |
12:26.17 | pb__ | zecke: I am always serious. |
12:27.45 | pb__ | zecke: much as I hate to rely on Torvalds to back up my points, see for example http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0004.0/0728.html |
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12:33.20 | broonie | Why would it be particularly fast? |
12:34.42 | pb__ | er, why would what be particularly fast? |
12:34.51 | pb__ | -> meeting |
12:34.52 | pb__ | bbiab |
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12:59.03 | pb__ | re |
13:04.07 | mmp | thebohemian: I found the culprit -- woglinde yesterday modified minimal-uclibc.conf to contain PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/libintl ?= "proxy-libintl", but it minimal-uclibc.conf also includes minimal.conf, which hard sets PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/libintl to glibc |
13:11.40 | thebohemian | mmp: can you create a bug report and add woglinde to CC? |
13:12.38 | mmp | sure, I just didn't know whether adding one question mark is change worth of bugreport :) |
13:21.58 | BlindMan | pb__: linus is not your demigod? :) |
13:22.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4846 has been created by milan.plzik(AT)gmail.com |
13:22.06 | cdbot2 | * * bitbake pulls external-toolchain as a dependency when using proxy-libintl in minimal-uclibc.conf |
13:22.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4846 |
13:22.49 | pb__ | BlindMan: heh |
13:25.11 | XorA | pb__ is our demigod, we don't care what he worships :-) |
13:25.28 | BlindMan | hehe |
13:25.33 | BlindMan | ack :) |
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13:31.53 | hrw | morning |
13:32.10 | hrw | java suxx |
13:32.41 | zecke | morning |
13:32.54 | zecke | hrw: what does suck about it? |
13:33.15 | hrw | building it |
13:33.38 | hrw | Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: javax.tools.StandardJavaFileManager not found in java.lang.ClassLoader$1 |
13:35.12 | broonie | RP: How are kernel LED drivers intended to handle setting brightness in a workqueue? |
13:37.56 | alphaone | zecke: Do we want to /home/alphaone/oe-ms4/tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/usr/bin/scanelf -B -F%r#F \'/home/alphaone/oe-ms4/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/xserver-xorg-1_1.3.0.0-r7/install/xserver-xorg-xprint/usr/lib/X11/xserver/de_DE.ISO8859-15/print/models/HPDJ1600C/fonts/9nb00051.pmf\' in Package QA |
13:38.09 | alphaone | I mean is it necessary to scan the fonts? |
13:38.36 | alphaone | That's slowing down xorg-server-xprint package QA by ~30 minutes |
13:40.16 | zecke | alphaone: hehe |
13:40.21 | zecke | alphaone: do they have an elf header |
13:41.52 | zecke | alphaone: 30 minutes is bad, the question is why isn't scanelf immediately exiting? |
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13:43.00 | alphaone | zecke: No idea |
13:43.15 | alphaone | I can give you the strace if you want to |
13:43.53 | zecke | alphaone: sure, if we want to skip it, I wonder which criteria to apply |
13:44.32 | alphaone | zecke: http://totalueberwachung.de/~alphaone/xorg-server-xprint.strace |
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13:47.30 | zecke | alphaone: hmm, could you run that on one file and look how long it takes? |
13:49.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4507 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by elena.valhalla(AT)gmail.com |
13:49.06 | cdbot2 | * * proposed recipe for ipython |
13:49.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4507 |
13:51.22 | alphaone | zecke: not really that long.. |
13:51.47 | alphaone | like instantaneous |
13:52.33 | alphaone | though: |
13:52.35 | alphaone | alphaone@thebe ~/oe-ms4/org.openembedded.dev $ find /home/alphaone/oe-ms4/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/xserver-xorg-1_1.3.0.0-r7/install/xserver-xorg-xprint/usr/lib/X11/xserver/ -name *.pmf |wc -l |
13:52.35 | alphaone | 123386 |
13:52.50 | alphaone | It has font files for each locale |
13:55.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4827 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by thebohemian(AT)gmx.net |
13:55.07 | cdbot2 | * * support for OXE810(D)SE board |
13:55.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4827 |
13:55.24 | mwester | so THAT'S why that QA step takes so long?!!! Good catch! |
13:55.56 | mwester | (and all this time I thought it was doing something useful with that 30 minutes!) |
13:57.21 | CIA-26 | 03Steffen Sledz <sledz@DResearch.DE> 07org.openembedded.dev * rcba4dd0420 10openembedded.git/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
13:57.21 | CIA-26 | oxe810.conf: New machine configuration. |
13:57.21 | CIA-26 | linux 2.6.24: Added patch to support oxe810. |
13:57.21 | CIA-26 | u-boot 1.1.2: Added patch to support oxe810. |
13:57.54 | alphaone | mwester: Yeah, when the pain rises I start looking around :-) |
13:58.53 | alphaone | zecke: Maybe only scanelf files that are executable? |
14:01.22 | mwester | You mean have the X bit set -- so that you don't actually open the file? |
14:01.43 | zecke | alphaone: nah, then you will have to check that the post inst check is not doing a chmod +x |
14:03.00 | alphaone | zecke: isn't QA being run just before the merge/package step? |
14:03.18 | alphaone | mwester: yeah |
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14:09.13 | CIA-26 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * reea5cfc239 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/linux-omap_git.bb: linux-omap git: actually apply patch |
14:09.26 | CIA-26 | 03Steffen Sledz <sledz@DResearch.DE> 07org.openembedded.dev * r99635191b2 10openembedded.git/packages/ (linux/linux_2.6.24.bb u-boot/u-boot_1.1.2.bb): |
14:09.26 | CIA-26 | linux 2.6.24: Make use of oxe810 patch. |
14:09.26 | CIA-26 | u-boot 1.1.2: Make use of oxe810 patch. |
14:09.28 | zecke | alphaone: yes, but still you can have chmod +x in the post_inst :) |
14:09.59 | alphaone | zecke: But that's evil, isn't it? |
14:13.40 | hrw | ~curse so called 'free' java |
14:13.41 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, so called 'free' java ! |
14:14.10 | zecke | alphaone: depends, maybe setuid + executable :) |
14:14.35 | alphaone | zecke: Well, so what can we do about it? |
14:14.50 | hrw | thebohemian: is it possible to build java apps with OE without having java installed on ost? |
14:14.53 | hrw | s/ost/host |
14:14.59 | zecke | alphaone: I'm not certain that we want to sacrifice correctnes for speed |
14:15.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4847 has been created by milan.plzik(AT)gmail.com |
14:15.07 | cdbot2 | * * gnome-vfs_2.22.0 should depend on dbus-glib |
14:15.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4847 |
14:15.30 | alphaone | zecke: Well, 30 minutes is pretty heavy :-/ |
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14:16.01 | zecke | alphaone: a broken package costs me more than 30 minutes in the Om bugtracker |
14:16.29 | zecke | alphaone: I know how tempting it is to sacrifice correctness for speed, I don't think it is clever though |
14:16.43 | zecke | alphaone: disable insane in your builds? |
14:17.09 | zecke | alphaone: we can easily skip things |
14:18.05 | zecke | alphaone: INSANE_SKIP_package-name = "1" in your local.conf can help you |
14:20.06 | alphaone | zecke: Okay,but why can't we move QA after post_inst |
14:20.24 | zecke | alphaone: because that happens on the device? |
14:20.32 | alphaone | right |
14:20.59 | zecke | alphaone: then we can skip QA checks completely and wait for users to inform us for broken packages? |
14:21.17 | alphaone | But post_inst could do other insane things like decrypt an elf binary that wasn't checked :-) |
14:21.46 | alphaone | zecke: Good idea,make the users part of the QA task :-) |
14:22.11 | zecke | alphaone: git rm classes/insane.bbclass |
14:22.44 | zecke | alphaone: yeah, maybe we should move building to the device as well? ;) |
14:23.03 | alphaone | zecke: Sure |
14:23.19 | zecke | alphaone: maybe even just ditch OE and use gentoo? |
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14:23.51 | zecke | alphaone: maybe you should send a mail "OE is obsolete" and start Linus's like minix flame :) |
14:24.10 | alphaone | zecke: For sure it would be completely better with gentoo instead of OE and all our problems would be gone in an instant. |
14:24.37 | alphaone | zecke: You know I'm open to other people's ideas as long as I had that idea before :-) |
14:25.06 | zecke | alphaone: I know, back to the topic |
14:25.13 | mwester | Oh for goodness sake, we should all upgrade to Vista. |
14:25.20 | alphaone | zecke: But I wonder how why you felt I criticized OE.. |
14:25.24 | alphaone | good plan |
14:25.47 | alphaone | build is running now anyways so nothing to do at the moment |
14:26.00 | alphaone | And it feels more like 50mins... |
14:26.09 | CIA-26 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rfc935de948 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev |
14:26.11 | CIA-26 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r533bb11309 10openembedded.git/packages/angstrom/angstrom-x11vnc-xinit.bb: |
14:26.11 | CIA-26 | angstrom x11vnc xinit: add xinit script to export your x session over VNC - TOTALLY INSECURE - |
14:26.11 | CIA-26 | * Jaadu and Chicken of the VNC pick up your host using mdns, although Jaadu only shows ":0" for each host |
14:27.14 | CIA-26 | 03Jeremy Lainé <jeremy.laine@m4x.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r703e0ac168 10openembedded.git/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
14:27.14 | CIA-26 | dnsmasq: update to version 2.46 |
14:27.14 | CIA-26 | * package upstream release 2.46 |
14:27.14 | CIA-26 | * make dnsmasq read /etc/dnsmasq.d (like Debian) |
14:27.20 | zecke | alphaone: use INSANE_SKIP to speed it up, I don't think skipping is good idea though... it starts with one file extension it ends with completely sacrificing the whole idea of doing static tests before uploading the package |
14:27.38 | alphaone | zecke: looking at the timestamp for the strace I would guess it's running for >1h now |
14:28.18 | CIA-26 | 03Jeremy Lainé <jeremy.laine@m4x.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * redccb23932 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of ssh://git@git.openembedded.net/openembedded into org.openembedded.dev |
14:28.18 | alphaone | zecke: Yeah, I know |
14:28.23 | zecke | alphaone: hehe, that is from task-openmoko-feed? |
14:28.43 | alphaone | And I agree that it is undesirable to make that exception, but where would you draw the line? |
14:28.45 | alphaone | 2h |
14:28.52 | alphaone | 5? 10? |
14:29.05 | alphaone | NOTE: Checking Package: xserver-xorg-xprint |
14:29.14 | zecke | alphaone: time is relative :) |
14:29.42 | zecke | alphaone: we should form a comittee and debate the issue of which time to use |
14:29.51 | zecke | alphaone: then we can create another comittee to decide what to do with the result of the other comittee ;) |
14:30.08 | alphaone | <zecke> alphaone: I know, back to the topic |
14:30.10 | alphaone | :-) |
14:30.23 | zecke | alphaone: that was for you |
14:30.35 | alphaone | And now it's for you :-) |
14:30.45 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: Well, besides your love alphaone has a valid point here. At least people should now about the problem and how to "fix" it |
14:30.46 | zecke | alphaone: I don't know, that is from task-openmoko-feed? |
14:31.01 | alphaone | zecke: what is? |
14:31.15 | alphaone | I'm bitbake fso-image from scratch at the moment |
14:31.25 | zecke | alphaone: why is the xorg print foo build at all? |
14:31.27 | alphaone | and it builds xserver-xorg-xprint which takes ages |
14:31.37 | zecke | alphaone: I mean xprint is even canned from the latest Xorg release (or the upcoming one) |
14:32.07 | alphaone | zecke: That is a good question. |
14:32.47 | zecke | alphaone: look at bitbake -g and see why you build that crap? |
14:33.18 | zecke | http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xprint/ (the deprecated x print server) |
14:36.20 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: right, the question is what the issue? Running scanelf 10.000 times is slow? We should only run things on elf binaries... but we need to know what is an elf binary |
14:37.06 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: I see your point. You were just drifting away with strange arguments like gentoo :) |
14:37.08 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: the options are a) skip the check for one package.. but "Hey this test takes too long, let us skip it" is a bad path |
14:37.16 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: Let us see if we can drop xprint |
14:37.45 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: If not we could at least let people know, ml, how they can work around if they like. Your trick with INSANE_SKIP |
14:37.49 | alphaone | zecke: Checking now |
14:38.24 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: I know, put >1 hour just for this one check it a bad trade also if you build often. |
14:38.36 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: Anyway, let us see why we have xprint in there first |
14:40.43 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: I think it has to do with the Error: you get at installation :) |
14:40.58 | pb__ | stefan_schmidt: > 1 hour for one check does seem like a bad idea if it happens often. but... how often do you need to build xprint, and in particular how often do you need to build the fonts? it isn't as if they are rapidly changing. |
14:41.21 | pb__ | I would have thought that building the fonts should be a once-in-a-lifetime kind of an event, |
14:41.48 | broonie | Given how often you need to blow away the intermediate files for bitbake... |
14:42.34 | alphaone | zecke: Nothing depends on it |
14:42.53 | alphaone | Or I'm reading the .depends file wrong |
14:42.59 | stefan_schmidt | pb__: Well, it is not that seldom that I have to blow away tmp here. But as I said. We are looking into the xprint dep now |
14:43.20 | alphaone | zecke: But: packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-xorg_cvs.bb:PACKAGES =+ "xserver-xorg-xprint xserver-xorg-xvfb xserver-xorg-utils" |
14:43.27 | stefan_schmidt | To make it clear, we have no problem with letting the default on check everything |
14:43.53 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: well, if you blog or write this option once... you create a urban myth :) |
14:44.43 | stefan_schmidt | We can life with dropping xprint or having a known workaround |
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14:45.15 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: We use kdrive anyway |
14:45.21 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: why do you build xserver-xorg? :) |
14:45.56 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: somehow PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtal/xserver is busted :) |
14:46.12 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: Because all the glamo work will go into xorg now according to andy and wolfgang? Nah, serious. No idea |
14:46.34 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: bitbake fso-image and check the first 100 lines, it says Error :) |
14:46.58 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: What is up with you today? You scare me a bit |
14:47.19 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: hmm, no idea. not enough speed |
14:47.49 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: but seriously. You see an error when starting the build |
14:48.12 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: About PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtal/xserver you mean? |
14:48.28 | stefan_schmidt | tries to find a way to find out when zecke is joking and when not |
14:48.45 | stefan_schmidt | None of my algos work here. Pure random :) |
14:49.11 | zecke | "ERROR: Multiple .bb files are due to be built which each provide virtual/xserver (/home/ich/source/embedded/openembedded/packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive-glamo_1.3.0.0+git.bb /home/ich/source/embedded/openembedded/packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive_1.3.0.0.bb /home/ich/source/embedded/openembedded/packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-xorg_1.3.0.0.bb)." |
14:49.30 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: yeah, got it |
14:49.39 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: and I have to admit, I don't remember... things look correct... you can remove PROVIDES = "virtual/xserver" from all these |
14:49.53 | stefan_schmidt | Got lost with this nice: |
14:49.55 | stefan_schmidt | ERROR: '[]' RDEPENDS/RRECOMMENDS or otherwise requires the runtime entity 'virtual/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc-2.95' but it wasn't found in any PACKAGE or RPROVIDES variables |
14:49.55 | stefan_schmidt | NOTE: Runtime target 'virtual/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc-2.95' is unbuildable, removing... |
14:49.55 | stefan_schmidt | Missing or unbuildable dependency chain was: ['virtual/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc-2.95'] |
14:49.55 | stefan_schmidt | ERROR: '[]' RDEPENDS/RRECOMMENDS or otherwise requires the runtime entity 'openzaurus-sa' but it wasn't found in any PACKAGE or RPROVIDES variables |
14:49.56 | stefan_schmidt | NOTE: Runtime target 'openzaurus-sa' is unbuildable, removing... |
14:49.58 | stefan_schmidt | Missing or unbuildable dependency chain was: ['openzaurus-sa'] |
14:50.16 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: and then xserver-xorg is not going to be build |
14:50.27 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: Anyway, thanks for pointing. We look into this. |
14:50.29 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: this will create a small window... |
14:50.38 | zecke | of time |
14:52.58 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: but regarding... It is a classic problem of user acceptance for a sane check |
14:53.31 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: what strikes me is that it happens now, which means xserver-xorg was not build before? |
14:53.54 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: which creates the questions what did change? and I did change task-openmoko-feed to contain more fonts (for werner) |
14:54.20 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: alphaone is building a MS4 image with DISTRO_ENTERPRISE=1 from scratch to get our ms4 builds back on the om server... |
14:54.44 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: That happens for a long time on us already |
14:54.54 | alphaone | zecke: Not sure, this problem has been here for a while.. |
14:55.02 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: Just today alphaone take the time to have a look |
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14:55.45 | zecke | okay, bbl |
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15:00.33 | alphaone | zecke: in xserver-kdrive-glamo: RDEPENDS_${PN} = "xserver-security-policy" |
15:00.55 | alphaone | which is provided in ./packages/xorg-xserver/xorg-xserver-common.inc |
15:03.34 | alphaone | So then xserver-xorg ist build |
15:03.36 | alphaone | built |
15:03.56 | alphaone | which also builds PACKAGES =+ "${PN}-xprint |
15:05.08 | alphaone | Ah, who needs security-policies anyway... |
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15:12.25 | pb__ | g'day kergoth |
15:13.02 | kergoth | hey |
15:13.59 | pb__ | alphaone: if all you want is the SecurityPolicy file then building the whole of xorg is a bit of a decadent way to obtain it. |
15:14.16 | pb__ | you'd probably be better off giving it its own trivial package. |
15:14.49 | pb__ | but, if your xserver is kdrive then I wouldn't have thought it would read SecurityPolicy anyway. |
15:17.41 | mwester | wishes we had an "UN_RDEPENDS" |
15:17.52 | alphaone | Actually packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive-common.inc also provides a xserver-security-policy |
15:18.18 | pb__ | ah right, so in that case you probably just need to set your PREFERRED_PROVIDER. |
15:18.30 | pb__ | mwester: I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean. |
15:19.33 | pb__ | mwester: if you want to clobber RDEPENDS for a particular package, you can already do that any way you want from local.conf. |
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15:19.56 | mwester | There are some cases where I have had to duplicate a bb file in order to create a minor variant of it that does *not* have a specific dependency, because I can't remove a DEPENDS or RDEPENDS that might be specified in the included file. |
15:20.00 | alphaone | pb_: Well, that should be set in om-gta02.conf |
15:20.10 | likewise | hi fooks and gals |
15:20.17 | likewise | oh that's redundant I guess |
15:20.20 | hrw | wants to kill some kmail devs |
15:20.41 | alphaone | ./conf/machine/om-gta02.conf:PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/xserver = "xserver-kdrive-glamo" |
15:21.05 | pb__ | mwester: well, you _can_, it just isn't entirely straightforward. |
15:21.20 | mwester | I think one needs to do some python magic... |
15:21.24 | pb__ | yeah |
15:21.43 | pb__ | it would be easy enough to wrap that up in some sugary syntax if you wanted, I guess. |
15:21.58 | Tartarus | !oebug 4797 |
15:21.59 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 4797, Status: UNCONFIRMED, Created: 2008-11-03 18:00 |
15:22.00 | cdbot2 | * * trini(AT)embeddedalley.com: task-sdk.bb and task-sdk-bare.bb duplicate some functionality. |
15:22.01 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4797 |
15:22.04 | Tartarus | There's a patch, too :) |
15:23.23 | mwester | True, it's an infrequent case, and one could argue that the need to remove a dependency is actually an error in how the package is factored out anyway. |
15:24.14 | pb__ | mwester: and, assuming that the included file is just setting RDEPENDS_${PN}, rather than using _append or anything more toxic, you can just manually set that variable back again after the include statement. |
15:25.33 | pb__ | but yes, you're right, if you find yourself needing to do this, it generally means that the original include file was mis-designed. |
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15:30.31 | ant_work | 'morning |
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15:30.35 | alphaone | bitbake -e gives me PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/xserver="xserver-kdrive-glamo" |
15:31.17 | otavio | kalev: hello? |
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15:32.20 | ant_work | stefan_schmidt: pls add your findings about spurious gcc-2.95 to http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4784 |
15:33.49 | alphaone | "xserver-kdrive-glamo.do_package_write_ipk" -> "xserver-xorg.do_package" and "xserver-kdrive.do_package_write_ipk" -> "xserver-xorg.do_package" |
15:34.24 | otavio | pushes a new firefox recipe (3.0.4) :-) |
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15:42.02 | pb__ | alphaone: I think it's PREFERRED_PROVIDER_xserver-security-policy that you need to be looking at. |
15:44.35 | alphaone | pb_: I think I got it |
15:46.25 | alphaone | Every xserver-xorg bbfile also has an xserver-security-policy package |
15:46.35 | alphaone | But not the xglamo one |
15:47.45 | alphaone | because the glamo recipie doesn't require xserver-kdrive-common.inc |
15:47.54 | alphaone | But I don't know if itshould |
15:48.05 | ant_work | alphaone: XSERVER = "xserver-kdrive-glamo xserver-kdrive-fbdev" |
15:48.22 | ant_work | is in om-gta02.conf |
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15:50.22 | alphaone | ant_work: Still doesn't explain why xserver-xorg is built |
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15:52.00 | pb__ | alphaone: oh, right. |
15:52.05 | ant_work | alphaone: stefan_schmidt: at first sight seems similar to my old issue in oebug 3428. conflicting XSERVER and PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/xserver lead me to the same "ERROR: Multiple .bb files are due to be built which each provide virtual/xserver" |
15:52.21 | pb__ | it seems a bit silly to have all the individual xserver packages building an xserver-security-policy when, presumably, the output packages are all the same. |
15:52.37 | pb__ | I think it would be better to give xserver-security-policy its own .bb file and let all the other xservers depend on it. |
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15:53.18 | alphaone | ant_work: Actually I don't get that error |
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15:53.50 | alphaone | Actually I do |
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15:54.25 | alphaone | But that's because om-gta02.conf lists both xservers (xglamo and xfbdev) |
15:54.56 | alphaone | The reason for that I don't know.. |
15:55.06 | ant_work | perhaps is right for om. Was wrong for c7x0.conf |
15:55.44 | pb__ | there's certainly nothing inherently wrong with building multiple xservers. I think that ERROR is fairly bogus. |
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15:56.08 | pb__ | whether Om actually wants both is another question, but it seems hard to imagine that someone could have set both in XSERVER by accident. |
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15:56.59 | ich | pb__: oh xserver-kdrive and xserver-kdrive-glamo |
15:57.10 | alphaone | But I added the PACKAGES =+ "xserver-security-policy" etc. lines to packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive-glamo_1.3.0.0+git.bb and it seems that fixes the problem |
15:57.12 | pb__ | zecke: yeah |
15:57.15 | alphaone | rebuilding from scratch not |
15:57.17 | alphaone | now |
15:57.26 | ant_work | uh..interesting history for om-gta02.conf :-] |
15:57.55 | pb__ | zecke: in conjunction with the (in my view broken) behaviour in bitbake that diagnoses an ERROR if you build two things that provide the same virtual. |
15:58.13 | slapin | hi, all! |
15:58.34 | zecke | alphaone: ah good finding |
15:58.54 | slapin | how could I add a checksum for tarball to checksums.ini? |
15:59.24 | zecke | Predating my involement: We have xserver-kdrive-glamo that is only packaging Xglamo |
15:59.31 | slapin | and, also - how could I configure different feed URIs in built image? is there some docs about this stuff? |
16:00.16 | zecke | which as you found RDEPENDS on xserver-security-policy... So someone assumed putting xserver-kdrive-glamo and xserver-kdrive will do the right thing |
16:01.47 | zecke | alphaone: so our options are to make xserver-kdrive-glamo "complete", adding patches to "xserver-kdrive" |
16:04.26 | zecke | alphaone: hast du BB_NUMER_THREADS auf 1? |
16:04.31 | alphaone | no |
16:04.55 | alphaone | PARALLEL_MAKE = "-j 2" |
16:04.55 | alphaone | BB_NUMBER_THREADS = "8" |
16:05.12 | zecke | alphaone: do you see other options? tick did something to cure this ERROR in the OM tree but I didn't take a close look |
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16:06.22 | alphaone | zecke: At the moment I'm rebuilding with glamo bb also having an xserver-security-policy package |
16:06.29 | alphaone | And it looks good |
16:06.57 | alphaone | I don't know what you mean with ' adding patches to "xserver-kdrive" ' |
16:07.31 | ant_work | zecke: reading om-gta02.conf history it seems XorA is working on a switch to xorg from Xglamo |
16:08.07 | XorA | ant_work: that was a private change that leaked into the branch |
16:08.28 | ant_work | XorA: hey.. a, I see |
16:08.59 | zecke | XorA: got an opinion if xserver-kdrive-glamo_git.bb should provide all the other packages as well (the ones plain kdrive provides)? |
16:09.45 | XorA | zecke: I had always originally planned when Xglamo became stable to make it a patchset and fold it into kdrive recipe, but it never got to that state |
16:10.54 | XorA | zecke: I don't see why it cant make the same packages though, other recipes do |
16:11.11 | zecke | XorA: well, we can generate an all in one patch for xglamo... we should be able to easily automate it |
16:11.35 | XorA | zecke: just when Dodji was working on it he wanted it fairly fluid |
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16:20.03 | slapin | as I see, it is only allowed to set MACHINE from local.conf with current bitbake, and not from environment. Is it true? |
16:20.58 | hrw | ~mondays |
16:20.59 | ibot | Sounds like _somebody_'s got a case of the Muhhndays! |
16:24.27 | kergoth | ~lart hrw |
16:24.27 | ibot | executes killall -TERM hrw |
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16:28.32 | zecke | kergoth: nah it is already tuesday |
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16:51.48 | hrw | "An alpha version of 64-bit Adobe Flash Player 10 for Linux operating systems was released on 11/17/2008" |
16:51.52 | hrw | world ends? |
16:52.48 | XorA | hrw: flash 10 in linux is buggered so not really |
16:53.33 | XorA | really hopes they fixed the alpha blending bug |
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16:54.06 | CIA-26 | Initial sucrose build |
16:54.15 | Crofton|irssi | damn, I may become non-productive on my home dsktop if I can eatch flash on it |
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16:56.03 | XorA | blocks youtube from Crofton|irssi's ISP |
16:56.20 | hrw | XorA: porntube better |
16:56.35 | XorA | sees hrw has an extensive list :-D |
16:56.50 | Jin^eLD | you also forgot youpr0n :> |
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16:57.26 | CIA-26 | rootfs_ipk: avoid matching spurious errors |
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17:14.04 | kergoth | http://blog.michaeltrier.com/2008/5/8/gitpython is a cute little wrapper |
17:15.17 | hrw | ah.. that reminds me that I had to check git-cola |
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17:18.39 | hrw | git cola is slow ;( |
17:20.37 | kergoth | cute, hadnt seen that before |
17:20.41 | kergoth | slow is not good though :( |
17:21.00 | kergoth | wonders why gitpython has no ability to create a non-bare repo |
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17:21.24 | hrw | hi Rodrigo |
17:21.50 | vivijim | hi hrw |
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17:34.24 | ant_work | bbl |
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17:41.19 | hubar | goood morning all! |
17:41.38 | zecke | hi |
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18:25.58 | Longfield | morning |
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18:46.58 | Longfield | Since last pull, I have a sanity checker problem with duplicates in PACKAGE_ARCHS ... does anybody knows this problem ? |
18:49.00 | hrw | yes |
18:49.04 | hrw | edit your machine config |
18:52.29 | Longfield | hrw: ok thank you ... works now |
18:54.10 | Longfield | by the way, I have a bug filled for an update about this machine, hasn't been touched for 3 weeks |
18:57.27 | hrw | which bug number? I can look later |
18:59.29 | Longfield | !oebug 4765 |
18:59.30 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 4765, Status: ASSIGNED, Created: 2008-10-23 15:47 |
18:59.31 | cdbot2 | * * valentin.longchamp(AT)epfl.ch: Better updated support for mx31moboard machine |
18:59.32 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4765 |
19:00.06 | Longfield | Thanks if you have a look at it later hrw ! |
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19:09.22 | CIA-26 | minimal-uclibc.conf: set the virtual/libintl hard to proxy-libintl |
19:09.22 | CIA-26 | * should fixes bug 4846 reported by Milan Plzik |
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20:12.03 | kergoth | hrm |
20:12.22 | kergoth | hrw: any idea if overrides specific versions of common patches via FILESPATH exist anywhere in tree? |
20:12.42 | kergoth | i.e. file://foo.patch;patch=1, where there's both foo.patch and arm/foo.patch |
20:13.12 | hrw | not remember such ones |
20:13.38 | kergoth | i'm thinking there probably isn't, cause its ugly as hell.. usually people have -extra- patches for specific overrides, not modified patches |
20:13.44 | kergoth | wasn't sure though |
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20:15.02 | kergoth | is toying around with the one git repo per package possibility, but there are lots of oddball possible setups like the one he just mentioned that could make his script a -lot- more complex |
20:19.50 | hrw | http://pastebin.ca/1259662 - what do you think kergoth? |
20:23.19 | kergoth | ah, that's cute. it won't always have the IMAGE_EXTRA_SPACE available though, of course. the ext filesystem usage doesn't always match du. but as long as the user gives -some- padding you'd be okay |
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20:25.32 | hrw | it is from Poky |
20:25.51 | hrw | I wrote that one day as our ext2 images overfilled again |
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20:26.15 | Ainulindale | Hey there. |
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20:26.51 | kergoth | i remember hacking on genext2fs a lot trying to get autosize stuff working better, bit of a pain. only way to do it correctly is to create the image multiple times |
20:26.59 | kergoth | fun fun |
20:27.53 | CosmicPenguin | yeah - sizing with genext2fs is not fun |
20:28.00 | CosmicPenguin | stupid filesystems that can't automagically grow |
20:28.23 | zecke | lpotter: salut |
20:34.06 | lpotter | hey zecke. hows it going? |
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20:38.44 | kergoth | hmmm |
20:41.57 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: opinion... override specific branches, or just a pile of files in the same sturcture as OpenEmbedded uses now, for file:// non-patch files |
20:42.02 | kergoth | heh |
20:43.42 | CosmicPenguin | hmm - I really like how OE does it now |
20:43.45 | CosmicPenguin | but I think thats because I understand it |
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20:45.49 | Ainulindale | zecke? |
20:47.48 | Ainulindale | zecke: alphaone told me to bug you about a problem we're encountering right now, SHR guys that is |
20:48.06 | Ainulindale | zecke: i.e. xserver-xorg taking ages to end (on a scale of hours) |
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20:48.11 | Ainulindale | In fact it didn't even end |
20:48.27 | alphaone | Ainulindale: Did it abort or did you abort it? |
20:48.35 | Ainulindale | I aborted it in the end |
20:49.54 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: the only real advantage i can see to having arch/distro/etc specific branches is 1) easy to see the history of the changes specific to that override, at a glance, and 2) easy to do access control based on area of responsibility |
20:50.01 | zecke | Ainulindale: bug alphaone :) |
20:50.08 | Ainulindale | Meh :-) |
20:50.22 | zecke | Ainulindale: he should tern xserver-kdrive-glamo into a "true" provider of all kdrive packages... |
20:50.51 | Ainulindale | Meanwhile, is there any way to speed things up? |
20:51.19 | Ainulindale | (at it seems it passed, this time, weirdly enough) |
20:52.01 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: that is true - it could make it much easier to just overlay a particular platform/distro without pain |
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20:53.36 | zecke | Ainulindale: the fix is pretty easy |
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20:53.45 | Ainulindale | zecke: i.e. removing inherit insane? |
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20:55.42 | zecke | Ainulindale: as that your autobuild? or a private build? |
20:55.48 | Ainulindale | Autobuild |
20:55.54 | alphaone | Ainulindale: git pull |
20:55.55 | Ainulindale | Buildhost for SHR in fact |
20:55.56 | CIA-26 | 03Daniel Willmann <daniel@totalueberwachung.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r496ef68488 10openembedded.git/packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive-glamo_1.3.0.0+git.bb: |
20:55.56 | CIA-26 | xserver-kdrive-glamo: Factor out a package xserver-security-policy so |
20:55.56 | CIA-26 | xserver-xorg isn't built unnecessarily |
20:55.56 | alphaone | rebuild |
20:56.07 | Ainulindale | alphaone: damn you :-) |
20:56.25 | zecke | alphaone: thanks |
20:57.35 | zecke | Ainulindale: now to a fix, feel like writing an ELF program header section parser in python? |
20:58.00 | alphaone | :-) |
20:58.46 | Ainulindale | coughs |
20:58.55 | Ainulindale | I have stuff to do :-) |
20:58.57 | zecke | what I still don't understand... why today? xserver-xorg must have been there for like +6 month |
20:59.11 | Ainulindale | Same here |
20:59.27 | Ainulindale | Though my guess is |
20:59.43 | Ainulindale | We were using bitbaje 1.8.10 |
20:59.47 | Ainulindale | s/aje/ake/ |
20:59.54 | Ainulindale | Switching to branches-1.9 made us go to 1.8.11 |
21:00.01 | Ainulindale | Which has a different sorted revision algorithm |
21:00.13 | Ainulindale | Which may have triggered stuff to regenerate locally |
21:00.19 | Ainulindale | That or alphaone just put the wrong flag somewhere :-) |
21:01.31 | hrw | Ainulindale: there is no suc thing as branch 1.9 |
21:01.42 | Ainulindale | branches-1.8 |
21:01.44 | Ainulindale | That was a typo |
21:01.47 | zecke | rule of thumb: Speed vs. Correctness... never ask for speed when you sacrifice correctness |
21:02.05 | Ainulindale | zecke: problem is, I need to test some stuff asap =) |
21:02.20 | otavio | Is someone havinga segfault in firefox? |
21:02.33 | zecke | Ainulindale: it is a nightly build, it is not night yet :) |
21:02.40 | Ainulindale | Heh |
21:02.41 | Ainulindale | it is here |
21:02.54 | hrw | otavio: I curse segfaults in kmail 4.1.2/4.1.3 |
21:04.08 | otavio | hrw: I'm having those when using flash however I have no idea where they came from. It looks like to has a segfault in g_object_unref. |
21:04.21 | hrw | flas is evil |
21:04.22 | otavio | hrw: but I have no backtrace. Not really useful to debug |
21:04.30 | otavio | hrw: don't tell me ;P |
21:04.39 | zecke | hrw: it only SIGABRT'ed here so far |
21:04.43 | otavio | hrw: I fully agree but ... |
21:04.46 | zecke | otavio: dump the core |
21:04.57 | otavio | zecke: and? |
21:05.02 | zecke | Ainulindale: next time say "local private build" |
21:05.06 | otavio | zecke: want to talk a look? |
21:05.10 | zecke | otavio: maybe you get a sane bakctrace then? |
21:05.21 | zecke | otavio: nah, mozilla? |
21:05.24 | Ainulindale | zecke: This is not my local private buildhost unfortunately =) |
21:05.25 | kergoth | zecke: is there a plan for what changes will be worked on, for bitbake itself, going forward? |
21:05.26 | otavio | zecke: will give it a try; let's see |
21:05.33 | Ainulindale | zecke: My own host burst into flames |
21:05.58 | Ainulindale | So I'm using the buildhost to generate some stuff for the developers/users of our stuff to use as a base of reflexion |
21:06.01 | zecke | kergoth: richard's plan. UI <-> backend split |
21:06.15 | zecke | kergoth: a real GUI (e.g. like the dependency viewer proof of concept) |
21:06.17 | Ainulindale | It just seems that our latest update triggered a lot of things to be rebuilt |
21:06.18 | kergoth | the plan documented anywhere? bts or a TODO or anything? |
21:06.22 | hrw | kergoth: there is ncurses UI in trunk and also gtk one |
21:06.28 | kergoth | huh, neat |
21:06.45 | zecke | kergoth: I think there is a mail from last fosdem |
21:06.47 | hrw | I hope that soon Moblin === Poky |
21:06.54 | zecke | hrw: ?? |
21:08.11 | kergoth | i wish gmane let you go back in the archives by date.. hmm |
21:09.33 | hrw | zecke: Intel took whole OH and Poky is not dead but improving |
21:10.21 | hrw | zecke: added rpm support, netbooks support, x.org git stuff... so it looks like Poky could be next Moblin base |
21:11.38 | kergoth | what's the status of the OpenEmbedded rpm stuff? |
21:12.10 | CosmicPenguin | Its about to get lots better... :) |
21:12.52 | hrw | kergoth: OE suxx on rpms |
21:13.01 | hrw | kergoth: Poky has it nicely working |
21:13.28 | hrw | Poky generates rpms, images from rpms, target device can fetch (yum) and install (rpm) rpm packages |
21:13.29 | kergoth | i think the last time i looked at it was when i added the initial versions when i was at ti.. years and years ago |
21:13.34 | kergoth | ah, sweet |
21:14.03 | hrw | I have 63 patches extracted from Poky to apply on OE to get rpm support |
21:14.10 | kergoth | sheesh |
21:14.17 | CosmicPenguin | IIRC the worst part of RPMs in OE was 'rpm' itself |
21:14.48 | kergoth | rpm always made me sad. the .spec format really is quite decent, its just the tools that were weak |
21:14.50 | kergoth | heh |
21:16.07 | hrw | http://blog.haerwu.biz/download/diffs/rpm-oe-from-poky/ |
21:16.28 | hrw | they should mostly apply or do that after some tweaking |
21:16.52 | hrw | they all are for 'git am' importing |
21:17.21 | kergoth | nods |
21:18.12 | zecke | hrw: what about source rpm? |
21:18.30 | hrw | zecke: forget about it |
21:19.59 | hrw | too much work to make it really working and having same output iirc |
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21:21.24 | hrw | have a nice evening/night/day guys |
21:21.26 | CIA-26 | 03Stefan Schmidt <stefan@datenfreihafen.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rf50b30cb87 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/magician.conf: magician.conf: Remove PACKAGE_EXTRA_ARCHS to ubreak build |
21:21.36 | hrw | stefan_schmidt: 'git pull --rebase' next time |
21:21.49 | hrw | bye |
21:22.08 | stefan_schmidt | hrw|gone: heh, good point |
21:27.08 | CIA-26 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r051f59ecc1 10openembedded.git/packages/gcc/ (2 files in 2 dirs): gcc csl 2008q3: add fix for http://hardwarebug.org/2008/10/11/codesourcery-gcc-2008q3-fail/ |
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22:18.24 | CIA-26 | python-pyqt: update to python-pyqt 4.4.3; patch courtesy Erin Yueh |
22:18.24 | CIA-26 | NOTE: The forthcoming upgrade to 4.4.4 (already out) needs more work. |
22:18.30 | CIA-26 | 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <mickey@vanille-media.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * re5ec376d03 10openembedded.git/packages/sip/sip-native_4.7.8.bb: sip-native: add version 4.7.8 |
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22:18.48 | Jay7 | ant__: ping :) |
22:19.42 | ant__ | Jay7: hey |
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22:20.32 | Jay7 | ant__: can you paste results of thumb-interworking testing somewhere else? :) |
22:20.48 | Jay7 | looks like *.ca blocks my ISP networks |
22:20.59 | ant__ | ah, ok, I'll add uclibc results soon |
22:21.38 | Jay7 | or just send me via email :) |
22:22.05 | CIA-26 | 03Julian_chu <julian_chu@openmoko.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r867e1804a6 10openembedded.git/packages/python/ (python-pygame-1.8.1/Setup python-pygame_1.8.1.bb): python-pygame 1.8.1: fix jpeg linking |
22:22.06 | CIA-26 | 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <mickey@vanille-media.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r27843e9fca 10openembedded.git/packages/python/ (python-sip.inc python-sip_4.7.3.bb python-sip_4.7.8.bb): python-sip: refactor to .inc and add 4.7.8 - thanks Erin Yueh. |
22:22.37 | Jay7 | ant__: btw, peoples on hpc.ru start using kdrive with xkb |
22:23.23 | Jay7 | now they have made xkb layouts for zaurus keyboard |
22:23.40 | Jay7 | I'm still not sure about this.. |
22:24.07 | ant__ | ah..I saw one post of svs57 |
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22:25.08 | zecke | ibot: mickeyl++ |
22:26.36 | Jay7 | is here any reason to use xkb-enabled kdrive instead of old xmodmap way? |
22:30.32 | ant__ | Jay7: history here...http://gitweb.openembedded.net/?p=openembedded.git&a=search&h=6a409c8ff1b97c5917dbad5aaf71bcef506223b4&st=commit&s=xkb |
22:31.25 | ant__ | but I'm not the right one for X questions...sorry ^_^ |
22:31.30 | pb_ | mickeyl: good morning |
22:31.41 | mickeyl | morning pb_ |
22:31.44 | ant__ | yahwnn |
22:31.49 | ant__ | hey pb_ |
22:32.00 | CIA-26 | 03Paul Eggleton <bluelightning@bluelightning.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r9e342538db 10openembedded.git/packages/shopper/ (shopper-1.2.1/path_fix.patch shopper_1.2.1.bb): shopper: install data file to palmtopdir/share instead of homedir |
22:32.31 | pb_ | hi ant____________- |
22:33.02 | ant__ | he..I'm gaining trails...like scares |
22:33.05 | pb_ | heh |
22:33.12 | Jay7 | looks like xkb is enabled for kdrive by default.. |
22:33.35 | pb_ | yes, I think all xservers have xkb by default |
22:33.58 | pb_ | it's a pretty harmless extension, there is no real reason to turn it off. |
22:34.06 | Jay7 | kdrive from -stable branch has no xkb afaik |
22:35.03 | pb_ | hm, really? I thought kdrive had had xkb basically forever. |
22:35.28 | Jay7 | no_xkb.patch |
22:35.42 | pb_ | oh, I see, you mean it's patched out. |
22:36.57 | Jay7 | only git version appears to have xkb |
22:37.49 | pb_ | "have" meaning it's present in the source, or it's enabled in the build? |
22:38.37 | Jay7 | enabled in the build |
22:39.05 | Jay7 | ah.. |
22:39.06 | pb_ | that seems a bit odd, though I guess anything is possible. |
22:39.32 | pb_ | anyway, what's your point? do you have an application that requires xkb? |
22:39.33 | Jay7 | looks like these peoples talks about xorg-xserver |
22:39.50 | pb_ | who are "these peoples"? |
22:40.02 | Jay7 | svs57 and CompoVod from hpc.ru |
22:40.38 | Jay7 | do we have kdrive 1.5.3? |
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22:41.30 | pb_ | ah. well, if they talk about xorg-xserver, they don't seem to be doing so here. :-} |
22:41.37 | pb_ | there isn't any obvious bb file for kdrive 1.5.3 |
22:42.48 | ant__ | pb_: I bother you while woglinde is absent |
22:43.17 | ant__ | look at the failed packages here http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/packages/?status=Failed |
22:43.20 | ant__ | pls |
22:43.34 | ant__ | I'm building uClibc |
22:44.00 | ant__ | this is new for me: configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables |
22:45.41 | Jay7 | is ccache enabled? :) |
22:45.49 | ant__ | and this is bad too ccache arm-angstrom-linux-uclibcgnueabi-g++ -march=armv5te -mtune=xscale -mthumb-interwork -mno-thumb -D_REENTRANT -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -c -I/oe/build/tmp/angstrom/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-uclibcgnueabi/qte-mt-2.3.10-r27/qt-2.3.10/include -isystem/oe/build/tmp/angstrom/staging/armv5te-angstrom-linux-uclibcgnueabi/usr/include -fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-registers -Os -fpermissiv |
22:45.49 | ant__ | e -pipe -DQWS -fno-exceptions -frtti -DNO_DEBUG -DQT_QWS_TSLIB -DQT_QWS_CUSTOM -DQT_QWS_IPAQ -DUSE_BIDI -fPIC -DQT_NO_IMAGEIO_MNG -DQT_NO_VNC -DQT_NO_QWS_SNAP -DQT_NO_QWS_VOODOO3 -DQT_NO_QWS_MACH64 -DQT_NO_QWS_MATROX -DQT_NO_QWS_VNC -DQT_NO_QWS_VGA_16 -DQT_NO_QWS_DEPTH_4 -DQT_NO_QWS_DEPTH_24 -DQT_NO_QWS_VFB -DQT_BUILTIN_GIF_READER=1 -DQT_NO_IMAGEIO_MNG -DQT_NO_SM_SUPPORT -DQT_NO_XKB -I3rdparty/kernel -I3rdparty/tools -o 3rdpa |
22:45.50 | ant__ | rty/tools/qbig5codec.o 3rdparty/tools/qbig5codec.cpp |
22:45.52 | ant__ | arm-angstrom-linux-uclibcgnueabi-g++: No such file or directory |
22:45.57 | ant__ | oops so sorry |
22:46.18 | ant__ | http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/public/logs/2085830.txt |
22:46.26 | pb_ | ant__: I fear you should ask in #angstrom :-} |
22:46.28 | ant__ | Jay7: yes, ccache indeed |
22:46.48 | ant__ | pb_: in #desert you mean? |
22:46.58 | pb_ | heh |
22:47.18 | pb_ | well, sadly I know very little about angstrom |
22:47.48 | ant__ | he..I still don't understand the reasons behind that 'fork' |
22:49.39 | ant__ | and the (over)complicated instruction for setting angstrom (now env is filtered)... and /OE in path |
22:50.08 | ant__ | </rant> |
22:50.40 | Crofton|irssi | how do packages get their libraries in to meta-toolchain? |
22:51.29 | ant__ | pb_ this is for angstrom too? FATAL: Unsupported target linux-uclibcgnueabi for oe-g++ qmake spec |
22:51.45 | CIA-26 | 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <mickey@vanille-media.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r5bcd853d4c 10openembedded.git/packages/python/python-pyqt_4.3.3.bb: python-pyqt 4.3.3: remove in favour of 4.4.x |
22:51.56 | pb_ | Crofton: I think you're meant to make an appropriate task and then set it as TOOLCHAIN_{TARGET|HOST}_TASK. |
22:52.33 | CIA-26 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc6de2cbbd9 10openembedded.git/packages/qt4/qt4-x11-free.inc: |
22:52.33 | CIA-26 | qt4-x11: split PRs are frowned upon in OE, so let's bump to r11 instead |
22:52.33 | CIA-26 | of r10.01 |
22:53.09 | kergoth | what's the scoop behind the pointercal recipe? doesn't seem like it's a very good idea, personally. calibration generally varies from device to device, even the same model, due to slight variations in manufacturing.. which is why companies wanting to ship a device with calibration generally stores the per device calibration in flash somewhere... |
22:53.17 | kergoth | s/personally/imo/ |
22:53.42 | ant__ | kergoth: the setting for c7x0 are consistently wrong on my 2 C860 |
22:54.09 | pb_ | kergoth: yah, agreed, it seems like a bad idea |
22:54.31 | pb_ | ant__: heh, dunno. what package is doing that? |
22:54.52 | ant__ | libqpe-opie-1.2.4 |
22:55.32 | pb_ | generally though, if you are using angstrom as your distro, I guess #angstrom is where the folks that can help you will hang out. |
22:55.40 | ant__ | I should probably look at the qmakespec |
22:55.56 | pb_ | ah, sadly, libqpe-opie is also beyond my expertise. |
22:56.45 | ant__ | thx anyway |
22:56.51 | pb_ | überhacker mickeyl might be able to help you with that, if he remembers his opie days. |
22:57.38 | ant__ | or bluelightning, our new Opie-Man :-] |
22:57.42 | pb_ | or bluelightning, I guess he is working on opie nowadays |
22:57.43 | pb_ | right |
22:58.27 | pb_ | but for me, I never knew anything about opie even in its golden days. :-} |
22:58.51 | gerwinin | mmm seems that my system is always setting --hash-style instead of -hast-style |
22:59.05 | gerwinin | uclibc compiles for avr |
22:59.19 | pb_ | gerwinin: er, do you want "--hast-style"? |
22:59.23 | Crofton|irssi | ran opie on the omap starter kit at one point |
23:00.05 | gerwinin | pb_: I didn't do any research if it is really necessary but if it is not necessary I would like to remove it |
23:00.25 | pb_ | gerwinin: you mean you want to remove --hash-style? |
23:00.32 | pb_ | or you want to add --hast-style? |
23:00.34 | pb_ | or something else? |
23:00.47 | pb_ | if the former, sure, you can remove it. |
23:01.02 | pb_ | --hash-style is a runtime performance improvement, it's not required for correct operation. |
23:01.13 | gerwinin | pb_ : how can I remove it ? |
23:01.39 | pb_ | what's your DISTRO? |
23:01.44 | gerwinin | pb_:angstrom |
23:02.31 | pb_ | well, you could edit conf/distro/include/angstrom-*.inc |
23:02.49 | pb_ | I don't think there is any cleaner way of turning it off for angstrom. |
23:02.59 | pb_ | but, #angstrom would be your resource for that |
23:07.08 | zecke | gerwinin: hey, maybe woglinde knows |
23:07.20 | zecke | gerwinin: he recently merged in uclibc that has hash style support |
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23:11.08 | gerwinin | zecke: if I use -hash-style than it seems to work |
23:13.59 | gerwinin | zecke: I hope to speak with likewise soon I may have a project for him to work on ... but it still needs to be confirmed |
23:14.12 | zecke | cool |
23:14.38 | gerwinin | Yeah it is making a kind of small webpad with oe |
23:14.58 | gerwinin | But I first need to get it confirmed and paid |
23:19.31 | gerwinin | zecke: How is openmoko progressing ? |
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23:22.22 | blindvt | khem, the 0_9_30 branch contains the scheduled stuff for 30.1, obviously. |
23:22.28 | CIA-26 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc3ee19573d 10openembedded.git/packages/gcc/ (4 files in 2 dirs): gcc 4.3.1: mangle gfortran.patch to work on 64bit hosts as well |
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23:24.09 | blindvt | khem, i'd prefer if everybody could refrain from intrusive changes, so if possible only simple stuff, regressions only, no new features. Just as always |
23:26.19 | Jay7 | ant__: I've recieved reports :) 10x |
23:27.49 | Jay7 | -> sleep |
23:36.03 | khem | blindvt: yes that should be the plan |
23:39.28 | gerwinin | is hoping is avr32 image will boot |
23:39.54 | CIA-26 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * ra8d49111fa 10openembedded.git/contrib/angstrom/build-feeds.sh: angstrom feed builder: add octave |
23:43.55 | gerwinin | is happy with the new uclibc it seems avr32 compilation is fixed |
23:45.23 | khem | gerwinin: Are you using .30 release ? |
23:47.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4833 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by gerwin(AT)vanderkruis.net |
23:47.06 | cdbot2 | * * AVR32 init segfaults signal 11 |
23:47.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4833 |
23:47.12 | zecke | anyone with a 64bit userspace here? |
23:47.24 | CIA-26 | 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <mickey@vanille-media.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r1895173859 10openembedded.git/packages/gstreamer/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
23:47.24 | CIA-26 | gst-plugins-ugly: skip package for ENTERPRISE_DISTRO = 1 |
23:47.25 | CIA-26 | gst-plugins-ugly-sid: skip package for ENTERPRISE_DISTRO = 0 |
23:47.34 | CIA-26 | 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <mickey@vanille-media.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r41f080ef4f 10openembedded.git/packages/gstreamer/gst-plugins-ugly/gstsid_autofoo_HACK.patch: gst-plugins-ugly: bring back sid-patch |
23:47.34 | CIA-26 | 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <mickey@vanille-media.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r334e6d0a0f 10openembedded.git/packages/gstreamer/ (3 files in 3 dirs): gst-plugins-ugly-sid: new; A patent-free version of gst-plugins-ugly |
23:48.16 | gerwinin | khem : yes |
23:48.24 | gerwinin | khem: works wel for me !!! |
23:48.51 | CIA-26 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r7fa9bb1271 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini packages/octave/octave_3.0.3.bb): octave: add 3.0.3 |
23:49.18 | gerwinin | khem: but I need to fix the 2.6.25 kernel a bit it is giving messages like no phy found and so on |
23:50.23 | khem | gerwinin: great |
23:50.47 | CIA-26 | 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <mickey@vanille-media.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r4b177b3054 10openembedded.git/packages/images/ (fso-illume-image.bb fso-image.bb): fso-[illume-]image: bring back gst-plugin-sid from the ENTERPRISE_DISTRO nirvana :) |
23:51.18 | gerwinin | khem: well I knew the problem was with uclibc but thanks to a great person who I do not know uclibc-0.9.30 was added and now everything works |
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23:53.09 | khem | gerwinin: great its always nice if someone tries it on other platforms than arm |
23:53.37 | khem | gerwinin: I only have arm to test on before we push it |
23:55.03 | gerwinin | Well the other uclibc's seem to be broken for avr32 |
23:55.14 | gerwinin | they result in a segfault |
23:55.38 | khem | gerwinin: I think if latest is working then we can always suggest to use that |
23:56.18 | khem | gerwinin: there was patches for avr that went in before .30 was released |
23:56.40 | gerwinin | khem: I think that that is a good idea because it seems the version before are resulting in segfaults on the target |
23:57.26 | khem | enjoy hacking on it and let us know if u see any issues with library |
23:58.05 | gerwinin | khem: well in the past I had some issues with wchar and pthread (on my own brewed zigbee driver) |