| 00:01.03 | timtimred | hmm? me to run objdump on module? |
| 00:01.11 | mwester | Tartarus: really simple but extraordinarily ugly fix for the toolchain/SDK BE/LE problem will be commited shortly :) |
| 00:01.40 | Tartarus | mwester, oh boy! I get to see if 'git fetch origin' works easily or headachy on my branch :) |
| 00:01.42 | zecke | timtimred: yes |
| 00:02.38 | timtimred | if i see it in the context of: |
| 00:02.40 | timtimred | ET_DYN - asterisk-dbg/usr/lib/asterisk/modules/.debug/app_ices.so |
| 00:02.40 | timtimred | scanelf: ELF has multiple DT_RUNPATH's !? |
| 00:02.40 | timtimred | ET_DYN _SC_XBS5_ILP32_OFFBIG _SC_XBS5_ILP32_OFFBIG asterisk-dbg/usr/lib/asterisk/modules/.debug/func_global.so |
| 00:02.46 | timtimred | is it the first or the second |
| 00:03.00 | timtimred | i guess the first |
| 00:04.36 | timtimred | http://paste.lisp.org/display/71716 |
| 00:07.08 | zecke | there is no rpath at all in the above paste :} |
| 00:07.18 | timtimred | hmm :) |
| 00:07.56 | zecke | timtimred: and scanelf is complaining? |
| 00:08.23 | timtimred | yes if it run it manually in the install dir it complains |
| 00:08.41 | zecke | timtimred: but on the above binary it does not complain right? |
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| 00:09.32 | timtimred | that is the wrong one. one sec. |
| 00:10.38 | ant_ | zecke: me too I saw this red scanelf lines...just cannot remember which package... |
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| 00:14.23 | timtimred | if i run objcopy on the right one i dont see it :) |
| 00:14.28 | CIA-5 | 03Mike Westerhof <mwester@dls.net> 07org.openembedded.dev * r332c3ff017 10openembedded.git/packages/meta/meta-toolchain.bb: |
| 00:14.28 | CIA-5 | meta-toolchain: Preserve value of PACKAGE_ARCHS |
| 00:14.28 | CIA-5 | This fixes build failures caused when building a "be" sdk/toolchain |
| 00:14.28 | CIA-5 | on a "le" machine, and vice-versa. |
| 00:14.43 | timtimred | func_global.so |
| 00:15.00 | timtimred | i need to poke the build some more as i know part of it is a bit wrong. |
| 00:15.13 | timtimred | probably it will still be there after that :) |
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| 00:30.11 | timtimred | oh cool. version bumped it to 1.6.0.3-rc1 and it went away. |
| 00:30.26 | timtimred | i like it when its that easy. |
| 00:30.32 | NAiL | haha |
| 00:30.59 | NAiL | so... can anyone give timtimred or me commit access for all the nifty stuff we're adding/upgrading? :) |
| 00:31.39 | timtimred | there are rather a lot of new packages in foonas. |
| 00:31.59 | timtimred | and a bunch of platforms too. |
| 00:32.10 | timtimred | at least orion devices |
| 00:32.12 | timtimred | 5 |
| 00:32.30 | timtimred | and others already in OE from us that arnt being maintained because NAiL doesnt have access anymore :) |
| 00:36.30 | timtimred | or maybe someone can tell us how to apply ...... :) |
| 00:37.09 | woglinde | NAiL/timtimred ask on the oe-ml |
| 00:37.24 | woglinde | then some dev will stand up and vote for you |
| 00:37.35 | woglinde | and then you can send your ssh key to mickeyl |
| 00:38.11 | timtimred | thanks! |
| 00:39.06 | woglinde | dont know while nail got lost in the transition |
| 00:39.11 | NAiL | I had monotone access, and I've sent my ssh-key to a bunch of people, but so far I haven't recieved a reply ;) |
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| 00:39.17 | woglinde | maybee he missed the announcements |
| 00:39.18 | dfasdf45 | hello |
| 00:39.29 | woglinde | mail hm uh |
| 00:39.32 | timtimred | NAiL was inactive for a bit ... |
| 00:39.36 | woglinde | mail it to mickeyl again |
| 00:39.42 | dfasdf45 | I am trying to compile nano for the first time. |
| 00:39.48 | woglinde | he will aplly it asap |
| 00:40.03 | dfasdf45 | I am using angstrom, with the x86 machine. |
| 00:40.15 | timtimred | thanks woglinde... |
| 00:40.26 | NAiL | woglinde: got a working mail addy for Mr. Lauer? |
| 00:40.36 | dfasdf45 | bitbake dumps out on the do_compile for shasum-native.bb. Any ideas? |
| 00:40.40 | timtimred | we have lots of goodies to cut over :) |
| 00:42.10 | woglinde | nail mlauer@vanille-media.de should work |
| 00:43.40 | dfasdf45 | the website talks about using devshell to find our more inforation for debugging. I've run 'bitbake devshell' but I get the same output as running 'bitbake nano' |
| 00:44.15 | dfasdf45 | i've tried looking for the devshell output as indicated on the website under the tmp/deploy directory, but I don't have that directory |
| 00:45.11 | dfasdf45 | the build/tmp/work/i686-linux/shasum-native-1.0-r1/temp/log.do_compile.3528 file is empty. |
| 00:45.22 | dfasdf45 | is there a more verbose way to look at the bitbake output?? |
| 00:45.51 | Crofton|work | dfasdf45, |
| 00:46.02 | Crofton|work | you need to disable ccache |
| 00:46.12 | NAiL | woglinde: ty |
| 00:46.59 | dfasdf45 | thx Crofton. where can I look to do that? local.conf? |
| 00:47.32 | Crofton|work | heh |
| 00:47.35 | Crofton|work | I'm looking |
| 00:48.11 | dfasdf45 | I can put the output from bitbake here if it will help |
| 00:48.32 | Crofton|work | no, I've seen this b4 :) |
| 00:49.49 | dfasdf45 | ccache -C didn't work.. |
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| 00:52.46 | Crofton|work | grrr, I can't find the way to diable it ... |
| 00:54.00 | dfasdf45 | could it be in bitbake.conf? |
| 00:54.05 | woglinde | dpkg --purge ccache |
| 00:54.50 | dfasdf45 | woglinde: run it from the build directory? |
| 00:54.54 | zecke | CCACHE="" in local.conf... |
| 00:55.14 | Crofton|work | > CCACHE="" |
| 00:55.14 | Crofton|work | > |
| 00:55.14 | Crofton|work | > in local.conf? |
| 00:55.16 | Crofton|work | tie |
| 00:55.27 | Crofton|work | thanks zecke |
| 00:55.39 | Crofton|work | I was trying to avoid the rm ccache approach |
| 00:56.33 | dfasdf45 | thx zecke and crofton.. I will try that.. brb |
| 00:56.39 | woglinde | hm what the hell is /lib/modules/2.6.27/modules.order |
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| 00:57.23 | Crofton|work | dfasdf45, rhel? what distro are you using? |
| 00:57.23 | woglinde | hm who is writing python3 .bb? |
| 00:58.08 | dfasdf45 | i'm trying to compile angstrom. I'm using Slackware 12.1 |
| 00:58.18 | Crofton|work | interesting |
| 00:58.25 | Crofton|work | did that solve the problem? |
| 00:59.02 | dfasdf45 | bitbake is reparsing all of the bb files.. says the cache was out of date, will take a few minutes to execute yet.. |
| 00:59.12 | Crofton|work | how do I create a page on the wiki? |
| 00:59.21 | woglinde | bitbake cache has nothing to do with ccach |
| 00:59.21 | woglinde | e |
| 00:59.47 | dfasdf45 | hmm... it decided to redo the cache anyway.. |
| 00:59.56 | woglinde | jepp |
| 00:59.56 | Crofton|work | right, but you touched local.conf |
| 01:00.02 | Crofton|work | so it has to re-parse |
| 01:00.07 | woglinde | changegin local.conf == reparse |
| 01:00.10 | woglinde | think why |
| 01:00.19 | dfasdf45 | i see.. |
| 01:00.21 | zecke | woglinde: mickeyl will write python3.... |
| 01:00.27 | woglinde | zecke hehe |
| 01:00.35 | woglinde | I wonder why they arent in yet |
| 01:00.46 | woglinde | ah mickeyl was sick |
| 01:00.53 | woglinde | maybee thats the reason |
| 01:01.14 | zecke | woglinde: python2 and python3 are not compatible |
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| 01:06.28 | woglinde | zecke yes I read it |
| 01:06.38 | woglinde | okay good nite |
| 01:06.42 | woglinde | will go to bed now |
| 01:08.05 | dfasdf45 | thanks Crofton.. appears to be working now.. compiling nano.. |
| 01:16.17 | mwester | makes a note to try to figure out the silly ccache problem some day |
| 01:18.08 | Tartarus | 'the' ? :) |
| 01:18.26 | Tartarus | ccache is just too fragile sometimes |
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| 01:33.46 | CIA-5 | 03Stefan Schmidt <stefan@datenfreihafen.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * re533cf2ca6 10openembedded.git/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:33.46 | CIA-5 | connman: Add the 0.1 "Nikolaus" release |
| 01:33.46 | CIA-5 | * Factor out common bits from the git and the 0.1 recipe into .inc |
| 01:33.46 | CIA-5 | * Add checksum for the release tarball |
| 01:33.46 | CIA-5 | * DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" in the 0.1 recipe for now. Needs more testing and |
| 01:33.50 | CIA-5 | perhaps packaging tweaks |
| 01:35.36 | dfasdf45 | the ccache = "" is on the angstrom site.. maybe it should be added to the general OE site?? |
| 01:37.18 | Crofton|work | yeah |
| 01:37.36 | dfasdf45 | what happens if you build angstrom for a machine that isn't listed on the angstrom site? |
| 01:37.40 | Crofton|work | When I figure out how to add faw pages, I'll do that |
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| 01:46.09 | CIA-5 | 03Sergey Lapin <slapin@ossfans.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r6ae987b688 10openembedded.git/packages/u-boot/u-boot_git.bb: u-boot_git: updated rev for afeb9260 |
| 01:46.11 | CIA-5 | 03Sergey Lapin <slapin@ossfans.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rdde71280ca 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/ (4 files in 2 dirs): linux_2.6.28: made source fetchable after Koen's fix |
| 01:46.11 | CIA-5 | 03Sergey Lapin <slapin@ossfans.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r43f5624517 10openembedded.git/packages/at91bootstrap/ (6 files in 2 dirs): at91bootstrap: afeb9260 support, cleanup |
| 01:46.21 | CIA-5 | 03Sergey Lapin <slapin@ossfans.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rbe9815cf41 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'afeb9260' into org.openembedded.dev |
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| 02:03.22 | Tartarus | Hmmm |
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| 02:03.51 | Tartarus | for arm machines, bitbake -g sbrsh wants to build a 2.4 and 2.6 kernel, to get kernel-module-nfs, even 'tho it knows to build the 2.6 kernel |
| 02:05.20 | Tartarus | http://pastebin.com/m5a3cfabc |
| 02:06.27 | Tartarus | (arm is the only one with a 2.4 and 2.6 kernel) |
| 02:06.39 | Tartarus | And, I only notice this since poodle wants 2.95, which doesn't exist anymore |
| 02:08.06 | mw| | openzaurus pulls in gcc 2.95 aswell :-p (went tired of seeing the message from bitbake) |
| 02:11.08 | Tartarus | Yes, that's where it's coming from |
| 02:11.11 | Tartarus | emailing the list now :) |
| 02:14.55 | mw| | Tartarus: see #4784 and #4913 |
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| 02:43.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4915 has been created by stian(AT)nixia.no |
| 02:43.06 | cdbot2 | * * e-wm usage of RDEPENDS_${PN}_append_linux etc failes to generate proper depency graphs for *image.bb |
| 02:43.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4915 |
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| 07:05.09 | moi1234 | !help |
| 07:05.24 | moi1234 | hello? |
| 07:05.37 | moi1234 | please help? |
| 07:05.59 | moi1234 | where is everybody? |
| 07:24.09 | Tartarus | sleepin' |
| 07:24.14 | Tartarus | ~pastebin |
| 07:24.15 | ibot | [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 07:24.24 | Tartarus | pastebin your problem logs, please |
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| 09:12.59 | CIA-5 | 03Stian Skjelstad <stian@nixia.no> 07org.openembedded.dev * r48d3449f78 10openembedded.git/packages/e17/e-wm_svn.bb: e-wm usage of RDEPENDS_${PN}_append_linux etc failes to generate proper depency graphs for *image.bb |
| 09:35.15 | CIA-5 | 03Cyril Humbert <cyril.humbert@martec.fr> 07org.openembedded.dev * raa441fd70b 10openembedded.git/packages/udev/ (udev-124/udev.rules udev_124.bb): |
| 09:35.15 | CIA-5 | udev-124: Fix firmware loader script name and bump package PR (from |
| 09:35.15 | CIA-5 | poky) |
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| 10:24.06 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4915 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by stian(AT)nixia.no |
| 10:24.08 | cdbot2 | * * e-wm usage of RDEPENDS_${PN}_append_linux etc failes to generate proper depency graphs for *image.bb |
| 10:24.10 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4915 |
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| 10:47.33 | favor | hi |
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| 10:50.46 | favor | I use oe and meet some problem. when i use "bitbake task-base" i got an error: one package does not match md5sum. what's the problem? |
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| 11:30.53 | favor | hi.in OE , how to deal with checksum mismatch problem? I can execute "bitbake task-base" because of this issue |
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| 11:53.05 | likewise | gm |
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| 12:28.18 | mw| | favor: which package fails? try to update openembedded? |
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| 12:36.40 | favor | mwl: hi, it seems the package tinylogin doesn't match the checksums. |
| 12:37.46 | favor | i update the checksum.ini file in openembeded/conf directory. but also failed! |
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| 12:39.57 | lumag | hi |
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| 12:50.34 | mw| | favor: try to delete tinylogin tarball (The file downloaded).. could be that the file downloaded is corrupt ? |
| 12:52.16 | favor | yes, i tried that before. but later on, "bitbake task-base" download again and the checksum does not match again. |
| 12:54.01 | favor | I have not an idea,now |
| 12:55.54 | mw| | checksums in OE is unknown field for me |
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| 12:57.28 | Genesis | hello |
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| 13:02.25 | favor | mwl: thanks all the same. |
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| 13:20.12 | lumag | slapin_nb, hi! |
| 13:22.09 | zecke | favor: which version of tinylogin? |
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| 13:22.19 | zecke | favor: what checksum do you have? what checksum is in the file? |
| 13:23.26 | Jin^eLD | re |
| 13:23.32 | favor | tinylogin-1.4.tar.bz2 tinylogin-1.4.tar.bz2.md5. the two tar-files were download, but the checksums didn't match. |
| 13:23.55 | ant_ | lumag: hey |
| 13:24.18 | lumag | ant_, hi |
| 13:24.27 | lumag | ant_, currently experimenting with kexecboot |
| 13:24.36 | ant_ | lumag: have you started to play with c7x0 or are you too busy with tosa yet? |
| 13:24.53 | lumag | I'm trying to build tosa images. |
| 13:25.01 | ant_ | nice |
| 13:25.08 | lumag | had no time for that during the week |
| 13:25.31 | favor | In the checksum.ini configure file, it has tinylogin , but with the wrong checksums.[http://tinylogin.busybox.net/downloads/tinylogin-1.4.tar.bz2] |
| 13:25.31 | favor | md5=44da0ff2b727455669890b24305e351d |
| 13:25.31 | favor | sha256=5e542e4b7825305a3678bf73136c392feb0d44b8bbf926e8eda5453eea7ddd6b |
| 13:25.31 | favor | [http://tinylogin.tinylogin.net/downloads/tinylogin-1.4.tar.bz2] |
| 13:25.31 | favor | md5=44da0ff2b727455669890b24305e351d |
| 13:25.33 | favor | sha256=5e542e4b7825305a3678bf73136c392feb0d44b8bbf926e8eda5453eea7ddd6b |
| 13:25.34 | ant_ | we have repor about linux-kexecboot working on collie,poodle,c7x0,akita,spitz. Only tosa missing... |
| 13:25.55 | zecke | lisppaste7: url |
| 13:25.56 | lisppaste7 | To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/oe and enter your paste. |
| 13:26.03 | lumag | I'll build images today and most probably test them on real HW tomorrow (only qemu here :) |
| 13:26.12 | zecke | favor: use that instead... |
| 13:26.24 | zecke | favor: yes, but what is the error you get? |
| 13:26.30 | ant_ | next task for you would be to help me to find why atiw100 acceleration has to be disabled for opie-c7x0 |
| 13:26.36 | ant_ | lumag: ^^ |
| 13:27.04 | lumag | ant_, btw: which target should I build? initramfs-kexecboot-image? |
| 13:27.12 | ant_ | linux-kexecboot |
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| 13:27.40 | favor | hi, I give you the checksum file content above.md5=44da0ff2b727455669890b24305e351d, do you mean to substitute the md5 with the right checksum in checksum.ini file? |
| 13:27.55 | lumag | ok, then my first guess was correct :) |
| 13:28.08 | ant_ | lumag: probably need to fil the tosa src_uri |
| 13:28.36 | lumag | Nah, just few updates from main linux-rp-2.6.24 |
| 13:28.55 | ant_ | in linux-kexecboot.inc |
| 13:29.04 | zecke | favor: how hard is it to paste the output of bitbake in the above url? |
| 13:29.34 | ant_ | lumag: ^^ cmdline |
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| 13:29.38 | zecke | favor: you fail to express yourself. instead you toss random things.... |
| 13:30.29 | ant_ | lumag: dunno about FBANGLE for tosa |
| 13:30.40 | ant_ | in initramfs-kexecboot |
| 13:30.56 | favor | zecke:yes. i am waiting bitbake task-base , to get the error again. and paste the error . |
| 13:31.19 | lumag | btw: does anybody know about plans for linux-rp-2.6.27? or linux-rp-2.6.28? |
| 13:31.42 | lumag | ant_, default cmdline should just work IIUC |
| 13:31.52 | zecke | favor: the checksums you pasted are the correct ones... if you have different ones... your download is corrupt or you used a different tinylogin server and we lack an entr... |
| 13:31.55 | favor | zecke: the error comes out: NOTE: The MD5Sums did not match. Wanted: '44da0ff2b727455669890b24305e351d' and Got: '9e9bc5906ac5be388d0b51771006d346'? |
| 13:32.11 | zecke | 14:27 < zecke> favor: how hard is it to paste the output of bitbake in the above url? |
| 13:32.47 | zecke | your download is corrupt... or the tinylogin 1.4 sources changed |
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| 13:33.45 | favor | but how to solute this problem. I can bitbake some packages,though. |
| 13:33.47 | thesing | morning all |
| 13:33.57 | lumag | ant_, another question: will arch/arm/boot/zImage from linux-kexecboot already contain initramfs inside, or it is added at some other later moment? |
| 13:34.09 | ant_ | hi thesing |
| 13:34.51 | favor | zecke: i cannot bitbake some needed packages successfully |
| 13:34.53 | ant_ | lumag: well, if you have properly set defconfig it is done on building |
| 13:34.55 | zecke | favor: delete your tinylogin source and try again? |
| 13:35.14 | philippe | hi zecke |
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| 13:35.34 | lumag | ant_, I added initramfs.cpio.gz as INITRAMFS_SOURCE |
| 13:35.57 | ant_ | seems fine |
| 13:35.58 | philippe | zecke, do you have anything to do with Fosdem stuff this year or should I ask Mickey and Koen? |
| 13:36.59 | lisppaste7 | zecke pasted "checksums for favor" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/71749 |
| 13:37.05 | lumag | ant_, It seems to kinda work. |
| 13:37.18 | lumag | ant_, At least I see "probing, ..." on serial console |
| 13:37.22 | ant_ | lumag: you'll end up with 2 different kernels in deploy. Hopefully the kexecboot-one is smaller enough to be flashed |
| 13:37.26 | zecke | philippe: none, Thebohemian, mickey, koen are good candidates |
| 13:37.35 | favor | zecke: ok, let me try again, but this don't work for me. what should i do? |
| 13:37.43 | lumag | ant_, However then it tells "No bootable device found" |
| 13:37.53 | zecke | favor: find out why the checksums changed? |
| 13:38.05 | philippe | zecke, ok great. Thanks. |
| 13:38.11 | zecke | favor: someone comprimised the sources and added a backdoor? or someone did something else and put a tarball up? |
| 13:38.17 | lumag | ant_, does it support booting from CF or SD? As I still can't get NAND emulation to work |
| 13:38.59 | ant_ | lumag: for other models we took standard/production linux-rp defconfig and added initramfs |
| 13:39.27 | ant_ | the support for SD/CF/ and JFFS/EXT2/3 filesystem is static compiled |
| 13:40.04 | ant_ | a.k.a. no modules around |
| 13:41.10 | ant_ | lumag: you flashed the zImage-kexecboot-2.6.xxx isn't? |
| 13:41.13 | favor | zecke: I don't have idea about why the checksums changed. is it the url source is wrong? |
| 13:41.32 | CIA-5 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rce08317b64 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/linux-msm7xxxx_git.bb: linux-msm7xxxx: fix upgrade paths |
| 13:41.32 | zecke | favor: that is your task |
| 13:41.54 | zecke | favor: You can decide to not care that your login might be compromised and change conf/checksums.ini and go on |
| 13:42.07 | zecke | favor: but if you have a slight idea of security... you should see what changed |
| 13:42.27 | lumag | ant_, I just call qemu -M tosa -kernel arch/arm/boot/zImage ..... |
| 13:42.49 | ant_ | ah..I never tested Zaurus on quemu |
| 13:43.00 | ant_ | thesing: ^^ ? |
| 13:44.05 | favor | zecke: how to know what changed? thanks in advance. I am a newer. |
| 13:44.26 | zecke | favor: take your changed tarball |
| 13:44.33 | lumag | ant_, Should it support booting from bare /dev/hda ? |
| 13:44.40 | zecke | favor: get one with the original md5sum (e.g. from downloads.openmoko.org) |
| 13:44.47 | zecke | favor: check the md5sum on both |
| 13:44.50 | zecke | favor: untar |
| 13:44.52 | zecke | favor: diff |
| 13:45.25 | thesing | lumag: kexecboot supports CF and SD cards if the necessary drivers are in the zImage |
| 13:46.18 | lumag | thesing, I see "Probing /dev/hda" on console, but then "No bootable device found" |
| 13:46.29 | favor | ok. but the diff only compare one file, am i right? |
| 13:46.37 | lumag | thesing, Oh, wait. I don't have kernel on my CF image. |
| 13:46.57 | zecke | favor: Sure... but you can unpack the sources... |
| 13:47.07 | favor | how to compare the both tar-packages at one time? |
| 13:47.58 | zecke | favor: google |
| 13:47.59 | lumag | Strange Now I do have zImage |
| 13:48.06 | lumag | and still no devices found |
| 13:48.15 | thesing | lumag: it scan /proc/partitions tries to guess the fs on it, mount the device and looks for kernels. |
| 13:48.24 | zecke | favor: you know how to unack sources? |
| 13:49.00 | ant_ | lumag: vfat seems not supported |
| 13:49.08 | zecke | favor: anyway, I assume that your download of tinylogin is not complete |
| 13:49.14 | thesing | lumag: do you have the right fs driver in the kernel? |
| 13:50.09 | favor | zecke: i don't change anything when i first use OE's bitbake. I follow the O |
| 13:50.12 | lumag | thesing, now I do see the menu |
| 13:51.49 | lumag | the FBANGLE should be corrected, however. And I can't press keys. |
| 13:51.54 | zecke | favor: sure... but OE has no control over your network |
| 13:52.06 | lumag | So more testing on tomorrow or on monday |
| 13:52.53 | ant_ | lumag: dont' forget CONFIG_EXT3_FS=y |
| 13:52.53 | ant_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:52.53 | ant_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:53.48 | favor | I follow the openembeded get startedwiki. the first "bitbake task-base" command is failed. if maybe my network is not very well, but it impossible that failed all the time. |
| 13:54.02 | ant_ | lumag: keys = cursor keys ? |
| 13:56.17 | zecke | favor: ... try manually downloading tinylogin and look at the hash? |
| 13:56.17 | lumag | ant_, the combination of my half-written kbd emulation, my notebook kbd and evdev Xorg driver simply doesn't seem to work |
| 13:56.29 | ant_ | he he |
| 13:56.43 | ant_ | congrats for the progresses btw |
| 13:57.02 | ant_ | tosa seems really hostile target :/ |
| 13:57.03 | thesing | lumag: do you have a real tosa? |
| 13:57.03 | lumag | ant_, kexec works on tosa, so I think everything should be fine |
| 13:57.29 | lumag | thesing, on my work |
| 13:58.13 | thesing | lumag: OE has a project tosa which you might be able to get. |
| 13:59.15 | lumag | thesing, this might be good. We talked about this with hrw year ago, but since then I heard nothing about this. |
| 13:59.41 | thesing | Nur sure who has it now. |
| 13:59.50 | thesing | tries to find the wiki page. |
| 14:00.15 | ant_ | lumga: bout you have a real SL-C860 ? |
| 14:00.24 | lumag | yup |
| 14:00.24 | ant_ | lumag: ^^ |
| 14:00.31 | ant_ | k |
| 14:00.38 | zecke | thesing: I think it should be with liam or close to him |
| 14:01.23 | ant_ | I'll send you a mail about opie status (bluelghtning had to pull out w100 for the 1.2.4 release) |
| 14:01.35 | CIA-5 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r07f1dd23da 10openembedded.git/packages/xscreensaver/ (3 files in 2 dirs): xscreensaver: enable more screensavers, add 'xscreensaver-hacks' meta package |
| 14:01.45 | thesing | zecke: thanks. Do you know his nick? |
| 14:02.36 | favor | zecke; I follow you instruction , i download it manually, then use md5sum tinylogin-1.4.tar.bz2, then i get the right checksums. |
| 14:03.18 | lumag | ant_, it has problems with colors, but otherwise looks fine |
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| 14:03.47 | lumag | ant_, I should also get collie soon |
| 14:04.39 | thesing | lumag: are you aware of my collie git tree? |
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| 14:05.39 | lumag | ant_, it has problems with colors, but otherwise looks fine |
| 14:05.41 | lumag | ant_, I should also get collie soon |
| 14:06.36 | lumag | hi mickeyl |
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| 14:07.46 | zecke | thesing: lrg |
| 14:08.03 | zecke | favor: so what do you do next? |
| 14:09.07 | favor | I don't know how to do now. I think to use manually download file . i mv the to the oe download source file. can it work? |
| 14:09.22 | arun_ | i am new to avr microcontrollers.i am using atmega8.do i need an embedded os to install tcp/ip stack on atmega8? |
| 14:10.49 | ant_ | thesing: when lumag will commit a working defconfgi you could perhaps extend kexecboot to all Zaurus machines. In fact, if one doesn't build linux-kexecboot, nothing happens :-) |
| 14:11.28 | ant_ | about moving kernel in /boot, well, it's always too late ;-] |
| 14:11.29 | favor | zecke : i move both tinylogin files which i download manually to source file to substitute the origin files. I don |
| 14:11.32 | mickeyl | hi lumag |
| 14:11.35 | mickeyl | morning folks |
| 14:11.46 | ant_ | hi mickeyl |
| 14:11.56 | lumag | ant_, thesing: btw, it may be nice to have CONFIG_BUG enabled |
| 14:12.08 | thesing | ant_: true. And since there are no machine mentors for zaurus machines (beside hvontres and me) I will decide this ;) |
| 14:12.40 | ant_ | about defconfigs, I hope psokolovsky will adpot linux-rp in his defconfigman |
| 14:12.57 | Crofton|work | mickeyl, gm |
| 14:13.01 | favor | zecke : is this the right method , or am i doing a stupid things? |
| 14:13.05 | ant_ | the code seems old, though (linux-2.6.20) |
| 14:13.31 | thesing | lumag: for the kexecboot kernel or for regular kernels? |
| 14:13.59 | lumag | thesing, for both |
| 14:14.29 | Crofton|work | philippe, is there a CFP for the embedded room yet? |
| 14:14.34 | thesing | if kernels stay small enough.. |
| 14:14.50 | thesing | but CONFIG_BUG should only be a few K |
| 14:15.58 | lumag | thesing, at least it's worth checking |
| 14:16.06 | philippe | Crofton|irssi, just sent it out for review |
| 14:16.14 | Crofton|work | great |
| 14:16.21 | philippe | the devroom only got confirmed last week |
| 14:16.28 | Crofton|work | I think there are one or two OE related projects that may be interested |
| 14:17.00 | philippe | Crofton|work,make sure they mail me then asap |
| 14:17.16 | Crofton|work | I will prod them |
| 14:17.42 | Crofton|work | can you send the CFP to the OE list when it is ready? |
| 14:18.10 | favor | zecke ; this method seems works to me. I am very glad, i hope not happen such error again. |
| 14:19.29 | zecke | favor: sounds sane... well... it depends on your network... |
| 14:20.52 | mwester | greetings. |
| 14:21.53 | mwester | -15 C --- and winter has just begun. Somebody needs to send some global warming back my way... |
| 14:24.23 | favor | zecke: the bitbake is very smart, but take some time of people, and and don't know how long should we wait for it complete. |
| 14:25.57 | thesing | do we have the old version of the oe wiki somewhere? |
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| 14:29.09 | philippe | Crofton|work, no problem. OE list is a prime Fosdem CFP target :) |
| 14:29.19 | Crofton|work | thanks :) |
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| 15:06.46 | CIA-5 | 03Kir Kolyshkin <kir@openvz.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r978a924e44 10openembedded.git/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 15:06.46 | CIA-5 | vzctl: add 3.0.23 + patch for arm |
| 15:06.46 | CIA-5 | * see http://openvz.linuxguru.co.uk/openvz-is-running-on-an-arm-gumstix-overo/39/ |
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| 16:33.23 | nik0n | im building a new machine configuration, the OE build runs fine but when i execute the build on the target the kernel gets extracted and the rootfs mounted |
| 16:33.29 | nik0n | but it looks like that init is not executed |
| 16:33.35 | nik0n | is there a way to debug? |
| 16:33.53 | nik0n | the console only tells me "mounted rootfs (jffs2)" and nothing more specific |
| 16:38.59 | zecke | nik0n: missing floating point emulation? selected wrong ABI in the kernel? |
| 16:39.18 | zecke | nik0n: wrong init? what happens if you use init=/bin/sh? |
| 16:39.23 | zecke | nik0n: wrong console parameters? |
| 16:39.31 | zecke | many reasons :) |
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| 16:44.42 | Crofton|work | nik0n, what is the machine/processor? |
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| 17:31.45 | CIA-5 | linux-omap 2.6.27: add openvz patch and enable it in the defconfig |
| 17:31.45 | CIA-5 | * see http://openvz.linuxguru.co.uk/openvz-is-running-on-an-arm-gumstix-overo/39/ |
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| 18:04.04 | GNUtoo | hello, i've put that in my local.conf: GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES = "en_GB.UTF-8" and angstrom's illume image fails at opkg-cl -f /home/gnutoo/oetmp/staging/i686-linux/etc/opkg.conf -o /home/gnutoo/oetmp/rootfs install locale-base-en-us because he doesn't find locale-base-en-us...what should I do? should i override the bb file changing the IMAGE_LINGUAS ? |
| 18:06.56 | zecke | GNUtoo: it is your tree... you can change IMAGE_LINGUAS |
| 18:07.09 | GNUtoo | ok thanks a lot |
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| 18:07.49 | GNUtoo | sould we add =? in the bb file so it could be overridden in local.conf? |
| 18:08.46 | Genesis | ho RobotGuy :) |
| 18:08.57 | RobotGuy | Genesis: Greetings! |
| 18:09.15 | Genesis | RobotGuy, ; i work a lot for a sunday http://objects.reprap.org/wiki/Robotic ;) |
| 18:11.41 | RobotGuy | Interesting stuff. |
| 18:12.14 | RobotGuy | I am still working on a recipe to add Hammer to OE, but am still not quite sure what to do. I'm still learning about OE. |
| 18:13.58 | Genesis | oki |
| 18:22.18 | mickeyl | otavio: i looked at udev 124, but couldn't find any dependency on libvolume-dev, just libvolume (which is ok) |
| 18:26.39 | Crofton|work | RobotGuy, you need to create a machine.conf file |
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| 18:30.04 | RobotGuy | Crofton|work: Yes, I know. The machine conf looks to be very similar to the SMD* conf files. |
| 18:30.21 | RobotGuy | The ones for the SC3240 |
| 18:30.44 | RobotGuy | There must be other changes I will have to make though. |
| 18:31.11 | Crofton|work | you will need a kernel recipe |
| 18:31.39 | RobotGuy | Hmmmm, OK. I will have to read up more and see if I can figure that part out. |
| 18:31.43 | Crofton|work | hopefully you can use one of the linux_2.6.xx.bb ones buy adding hammer specific patches and config |
| 18:31.51 | zecke | GNUtoo: no idea, why did you set GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES? speed reasons? |
| 18:32.22 | RobotGuy | I'm going to work on the Hammer/OE stuff tomorrow. Today I am taking my Ham exam. :D |
| 18:32.33 | GNUtoo | zecke, because others locales were useless as I prefer using only a locale |
| 18:32.54 | GNUtoo | zecke, so space and speed |
| 18:32.56 | Crofton|work | good luck! |
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| 18:34.03 | zecke | GNUtoo: for speed I have ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION="0" in my local config |
| 18:34.11 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 18:41.24 | RobotGuy | Crofton|work: I will try to start out with one of the stock kernel configs and go from there. |
| 18:41.34 | nik0n | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:41.52 | nik0n | crofton|work samsung s3c2440, arm920t |
| 18:42.43 | zecke | nik0n: floating point emulation is on (shouldn't be needed), kernel abi and rootfs abi match? |
| 18:42.49 | Crofton|work | hmm, there should be several machines files that arwe very close to that ... |
| 18:42.57 | zecke | nik0n: alternatively it boots: you just don't see it? |
| 18:43.54 | CIA-5 | 03Tom Rini <trini@embeddedalley.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r20e02f7541 10openembedded.git/packages/gcc/ (gcc-3.4.6.inc gcc-3.4.6/O_CREAT-perms.patch): |
| 18:43.54 | CIA-5 | gcc, gcc-native 3.4.6 : Oops, O_CREAT was already fixed |
| 18:43.54 | CIA-5 | Undo my pushing of Jonas Bonn patch as I missed that it was fixed differently. |
| 18:49.32 | pb_ | hi zecke |
| 18:50.28 | zecke | ho |
| 18:50.39 | zecke | pb_: I had one question. |
| 18:50.56 | zecke | pb_: why would gcc generate a two byte stores when I try to write a short to memory? |
| 18:51.30 | pb_ | zecke: either because it thinks the short is misaligned, or because you have selected an architecture which doesn't have halfword instructions |
| 18:52.42 | zecke | okay, it thinks it is misaligned |
| 18:52.49 | zecke | and now things start to make sense |
| 18:53.05 | zecke | on OABI it believes to be misaligned. on EABI it assumes I can align stuff? |
| 18:54.05 | pb_ | that's possible, yeah. the two ABIs do have slightly different rules for alignment. |
| 18:54.36 | Crofton|work | I don't suppose any of you German speakers would translate this for me : |
| 18:54.37 | Crofton|work | http://chaosradio.ccc.de/cre087.html |
| 18:54.50 | Crofton|work | wonders what harald is doing |
| 18:55.12 | zecke | Crofton|work: GSM is of interest to him |
| 18:55.33 | Crofton|work | hmm, he wants to listen to my phone calls :") |
| 18:55.35 | Crofton|work | :) |
| 18:56.23 | zecke | that is not legal. we want to listen to our phone calls |
| 18:56.26 | Crofton|work | he is going to pour so much knowledge into his head that it will explode :) |
| 18:56.36 | Crofton|work | rofl |
| 18:56.55 | Crofton|work | there is a fair bit of code around |
| 18:57.03 | Crofton|work | lots of missing pieces though |
| 18:57.20 | zecke | Crofton|work: right, at FOSS.IN he started putting this together... a bit at least |
| 18:57.44 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:57.45 | Crofton|work | you can make a really expensive gsm phone out of a pc and a usrp :) |
| 18:58.40 | Crofton|work | zecke, get him to give a talk on this at fosdem |
| 18:58.47 | Crofton|work | in English :) |
| 18:59.02 | zecke | Crofton|work: IIRC there is nothing new in this talk for your |
| 18:59.37 | zecke | Crofton|work: basics about GNU radio, how to do stuff in python (plugging things together), hardware patents implementable in software and what this is going to mean... |
| 19:00.12 | Crofton|work | I know the GNU radio bits, but I am curious about his insights |
| 19:00.18 | Crofton|work | like the patent stuff |
| 19:00.41 | zecke | Crofton|work: talk to him at fosdem |
| 19:00.46 | Crofton|work | I weill |
| 19:00.58 | zecke | :) |
| 19:01.16 | CIA-5 | 03Mike Westerhof <mwester@dls.net> 07org.openembedded.dev * r6bf9c836e2 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/linux-ixp4xx/nslu2/defconfig-2.6.24.4: |
| 19:01.16 | CIA-5 | linux-ixp4xx: defconfig-2.6.24 - renamed nslu2 version of the |
| 19:01.16 | CIA-5 | defconfig to match the current kernel version. |
| 19:02.06 | Crofton|work | I'm not super excited by gsm, but I am by sdr |
| 19:10.29 | CIA-5 | 03Mike Westerhof <mwester@dls.net> 07org.openembedded.dev * rd845bab6cd 10openembedded.git/packages/udev/ (files/slugos/mount.blacklist udev_100.bb): |
| 19:10.29 | CIA-5 | udev: slugos - add loop devices to blacklist, bump PR |
| 19:10.29 | CIA-5 | (loop devices are now detected by udev with newer kernels) |
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| 19:12.38 | Tartarus | So, for SDK building, any interesting targets not covered by nokia800 db1200 mpc8313e-rdb nslu2le simpad? |
| 19:12.46 | Tartarus | I tried an avr32 but get parse errors |
| 19:14.21 | CIA-5 | 03Mike Westerhof <mwester@dls.net> 07org.openembedded.dev * r3f898a4a6d 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/linux-ixp4xx_2.6.24.7.bb: |
| 19:14.21 | CIA-5 | linux-ixp4xx: bump PR |
| 19:14.21 | CIA-5 | (Makes SlugOS kernels pick up the new (correct) defconfig) |
| 19:30.22 | nik0n | zecke: i think thers an abi mismatch to ... gonna check that tomorrow. i had a working configuration half a year ago |
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| 19:30.54 | nik0n | im currently trying to get it working again with stable and current -dev ... and wanted to submit patches afterwards |
| 19:31.17 | nik0n | is there a way to check for ABI? |
| 19:31.40 | nik0n | or do i have to look into the recipes? |
| 19:34.24 | CIA-5 | 03Ãyvind Repvik <repvik@foonas.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r4501b87166 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/storcenter.conf: storcenter: Update machine config |
| 19:34.27 | CIA-5 | 03Ãyvind Repvik <repvik@foonas.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r4e324e4f3a 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/ (lsppchd.conf lsppchg.conf): lsppchd/lsppchg: Update machine configs |
| 19:36.40 | philippe | zecke, Crofton|work : Could you convince Harald to give a talk about that stuff in the Embedded room at Fosdem? |
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| 19:39.01 | NAiL | timtimred: :) |
| 19:39.22 | Crofton|work | philippe, it is cool stuff, but not really on topic for the embedded room |
| 19:40.18 | philippe | Crofton|work, since it is about phones maybe. Of course I haven't seen the thing you are talking about, so I miss some context |
| 19:41.06 | NAiL | mickeyl: Thanks btw :) |
| 19:41.41 | timtimred | hmm ohh. cool. :) |
| 19:41.51 | Crofton|work | yes |
| 19:42.08 | Crofton|work | It is about building system to receive the gsm signals |
| 19:42.27 | Crofton|work | at the moment the sdr solutions for this are not embedded |
| 19:42.57 | Crofton|work | think, a sniffer so you can listen to other peoples phone calls :) |
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| 19:54.44 | CIA-5 | 03woglinde <heinold@inf.fu-berlin.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r5f3dc7bb63 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/linux_2.6.27.bb: linux-2.6.27: start to port the simpad patches |
| 19:54.46 | CIA-5 | 03woglinde <heinold@inf.fu-berlin.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc13279029b 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/ (11 files in 4 dirs): |
| 19:54.46 | CIA-5 | linux-2.6.27: porting simpad patches to linux-2.6.27 |
| 19:54.46 | CIA-5 | * trying my best to port the patches from class_device to device |
| 19:54.47 | CIA-5 | * update to the new include structure |
| 19:54.49 | CIA-5 | * at least it is booting, but not all drivers are working correct |
| 19:54.51 | CIA-5 | 03woglinde <heinold@inf.fu-berlin.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r9e89e66336 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'simpad' into org.openembedded.dev |
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| 20:15.48 | zecke | philippe: I can try |
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| 20:25.11 | florian | re |
| 20:25.22 | woglinde | hi florian |
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| 20:31.49 | CIA-5 | 03Ãyvind Repvik <repvik@foonas.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r52379ecee3 10openembedded.git/packages/samba/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:31.49 | CIA-5 | samba: |
| 20:31.50 | CIA-5 | Add samba 3.0.33, thanks to timtimred. |
| 20:31.50 | CIA-5 | 03Ãyvind Repvik <repvik@foonas.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r563054a2db 10openembedded.git/packages/samba/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:31.50 | CIA-5 | samba: |
| 20:31.52 | CIA-5 | Add samba 3.2.5, again thanks to timtimred. |
| 20:31.56 | CIA-5 | 03Ãyvind Repvik <repvik@foonas.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rda80ac62b8 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/ (8 files): turbostation/linkstation: Split turbostation machine config into correct ones. Add lsmipsel and lspro machine configs |
| 20:32.55 | Tartarus | hopes the new sambas dont reintroduce old bugs and checks |
| 20:33.09 | NAiL | Tartarus: like what? :) |
| 20:33.10 | timtimred | did you remove the kerberos stuff for samba? |
| 20:33.13 | NAiL | timtimred: yes |
| 20:33.17 | Tartarus | smb/smbfs/cifs mount stuff |
| 20:33.20 | timtimred | aww, that gives AD though |
| 20:33.24 | timtimred | suport |
| 20:34.04 | NAiL | while kerberos is neat, I haven't tested it with kerberos support in .dev yet |
| 20:34.18 | timtimred | dev has kerberos support? |
| 20:34.29 | Tartarus | ok, its good :) |
| 20:34.48 | timtimred | i had to start from scratch with the samba builds.... |
| 20:35.05 | NAiL | Tartarus: Feel free to test it :) |
| 20:35.15 | Tartarus | heh |
| 20:35.53 | timtimred | bftpd is a good one to add too |
| 20:36.21 | timtimred | smaller than vsftpd and your newer kernel wont complain about it |
| 20:37.34 | timtimred | linux-orion too would be good as thats at least uh, i forgot how many orion platforms in one kernel recipie |
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| 20:38.33 | timtimred | ok back in a bit... |
| 20:40.22 | oliford | anyone good with graphics driver? |
| 20:41.11 | oliford | I have been given the docs for the 2d graphics acceleration on the pxa3xx and have written all the code todo BLTing alpha blending etc |
| 20:41.59 | oliford | I've got it working but am a bit confused about where to put it all to have the best performance increase. The X server/graphics system is a bit of a mystery to me |
| 20:49.04 | Genesis | bye |
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| 20:57.30 | pb_ | oliford: what xserver are you working with? |
| 20:57.49 | pb_ | both kdrive and xorg have support for acceleration, it's basically just a case of plugging in the right functions in the appropriate places. |
| 20:58.02 | pb_ | anyway, #freedesktop would be your resource for that. |
| 20:59.29 | woglinde | hi pb |
| 21:00.35 | ant_ | woglinde: pb: about uclibc builds being bigger than glibc,.. |
| 21:00.57 | woglinde | ant_ that can not be |
| 21:01.01 | ant_ | I checked installed-packages and seems fine to me... |
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| 21:01.28 | woglinde | ant what are the compile options for uclibc? |
| 21:01.35 | woglinde | ant and which is bigger |
| 21:01.38 | lumag | hi! |
| 21:01.38 | woglinde | the libc self |
| 21:01.47 | woglinde | or all binary and libs |
| 21:01.49 | ant_ | woglinde: http://imagebin.ca/view/3eK7Y2.html |
| 21:01.57 | ant_ | this was rebuilt from scratch |
| 21:02.02 | ant_ | both libc |
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| 21:02.57 | woglinde | ant by the way the screen shot suckz a bit |
| 21:03.03 | lumag | ant_, initramfs-kexecboot should contain PACKAGE_ARCH="${MACHINE}", not "all", since it's behaviour depens on machine |
| 21:03.09 | woglinde | a fast human readable text would be nicer |
| 21:04.02 | ant_ | woglinde: these are the diffs between 'installed-packages': http://rafb.net/p/6nrm4K29.html |
| 21:04.36 | ant_ | lumag: initramfs-kexecboot image does not contain zImag on first run (from scratch) |
| 21:04.45 | ant_ | on subsequent rebuilds get bigger |
| 21:04.54 | woglinde | that cant be |
| 21:05.01 | woglinde | there must be somthing wrong |
| 21:05.14 | ant_ | he |
| 21:05.20 | lumag | also doesn't understand |
| 21:05.28 | oliford | pb_, either. I've have been kdrive as it was what angstrom used but I might as well do it for the full xorg (the platform is powerfull enough) |
| 21:05.35 | ant_ | woglinde: the gettext issue was expected |
| 21:05.57 | oliford | I'll go ask at #freedesktop then. My problem is finding out where to put them |
| 21:06.08 | ant_ | woglinde: btw I checked the the binaries too |
| 21:06.26 | ant_ | uclibc are smaller |
| 21:07.44 | ant_ | woglinde: http://www.pastebin.ca/1279075 |
| 21:07.58 | pb_ | oliford: kdrive is probably simpler to start with. have a look at how the accel is implemented for the epson chipsets for example. |
| 21:09.15 | pb_ | iirc, it should basically just be a case of providing a suitable KdCardFuncs structure with pointers to your appropriate routines. |
| 21:10.13 | lumag | !logs |
| 21:10.14 | cdbot2 | Channel logs for #oe are archived at: |
| 21:10.15 | cdbot2 | http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/%23oe |
| 21:10.16 | cdbot2 | Live-logs are available at |
| 21:10.17 | cdbot2 | http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/livelogs/%23oe.livelog |
| 21:10.19 | cdbot2 | See ?? help-logs for usage instructions |
| 21:10.39 | woglinde | ant I have for gettext an idea anyway and let it provie gettext-libintl |
| 21:10.56 | woglinde | because libintl is mostly the only lib we need on the target |
| 21:11.07 | oliford | ok, maybe that would be easier. Is there any disadvantage of kdrive under xorg? |
| 21:11.36 | pb_ | there are a pile of features that xorg has which kdrive doesn't, though if you are on an ipaq I doubt you will miss them. |
| 21:12.03 | oliford | right then, time to look at kdrive/epson. Thanks |
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| 21:15.43 | ant_ | woglinde: these were the sizes on 1st december: http://imagebin.ca/view/6PddZ9L.html |
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| 21:32.56 | woglinde | ~lart lzo developer |
| 21:32.56 | ibot | smacks lzo developer up side the head with a clue-by-4 |
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| 21:40.28 | XorA | Crofton|irssi: whats the name of the guy you sent the OE poodle to? Its not on the Devices page on the wiki |
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| 21:43.15 | CIA-5 | 03Ãyvind Repvik <repvik@foonas.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r46a63930ea 10openembedded.git/packages/bftpd/ (bftpd_2.3.bb files/bftpd.conf): |
| 21:43.15 | CIA-5 | bftpd: |
| 21:43.15 | CIA-5 | Add package bftpd, a "portable ftp daemon" |
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| 21:50.54 | timtimred | is chuffed to see his packages going up and wont bitch for at least... ohh a day |
| 21:51.17 | mwester | a whole day?!! Wow! |
| 21:51.18 | mwester | :p |
| 21:52.00 | timtimred | :) |
| 21:52.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4916 has been created by likewise(AT)gmx.net |
| 21:52.06 | cdbot2 | * * gnome-panel fails to build |
| 21:52.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4916 |
| 21:52.17 | timtimred | unless someone finds a bug in that time. |
| 21:52.55 | woglinde | jesus I found a long oustanding bug in lzo |
| 21:53.18 | woglinde | install headers for staging into /usr/include rather than /usr/include/lzo |
| 21:55.51 | woglinde | args |
| 21:55.56 | woglinde | damnit |
| 21:56.01 | woglinde | lzo vs. lzo2 |
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| 22:16.13 | CIA-5 | 03Carsten Haitzler (Raster) <raster@rasterman.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r740272c91a 10openembedded.git/packages/efl1/ (ecore.inc ecore_svn.bb): ecore: fix package version to match src |
| 22:16.14 | CIA-5 | 03Carsten Haitzler (Raster) <raster@rasterman.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r656a66f78a 10openembedded.git/packages/efl1/edbus_svn.bb: edbus: fix package version to match src |
| 22:16.16 | CIA-5 | 03Carsten Haitzler (Raster) <raster@rasterman.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r6e5c4d51c9 10openembedded.git/packages/efl1/edb_svn.bb: edb: fix package version to match src |
| 22:16.17 | CIA-5 | 03Carsten Haitzler (Raster) <raster@rasterman.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r0a329810b5 10openembedded.git/packages/efl1/ (edje-native_svn.bb edje-sdk_svn.bb edje_svn.bb): edje: fix package version to match src |
| 22:16.19 | CIA-5 | 03Carsten Haitzler (Raster) <raster@rasterman.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r23b642e1f5 10openembedded.git/packages/efl1/eet_svn.bb: eet: fix package version to match src |
| 22:16.21 | CIA-5 | 03Carsten Haitzler (Raster) <raster@rasterman.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r056c018bde 10openembedded.git/packages/efl1/efreet_svn.bb: efreet: fix package version to match src |
| 22:16.26 | CIA-5 | 03Carsten Haitzler (Raster) <raster@rasterman.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rdcb4dd0430 10openembedded.git/packages/efl1/embryo_svn.bb: embryo: fix package version to match src |
| 22:16.29 | CIA-5 | 03Carsten Haitzler (Raster) <raster@rasterman.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rf8c2eacfaf 10openembedded.git/packages/efl1/esmart_svn.bb: esmart: fix package version to match src |
| 22:16.32 | CIA-5 | 03Carsten Haitzler (Raster) <raster@rasterman.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r9c0252adc0 10openembedded.git/packages/efl1/emotion_svn.bb: emotion: fix package version to match src |
| 22:16.35 | CIA-5 | 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <mickey@vanille-media.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * rd61bd451bb 10openembedded.git/packages/e17/e-wm_svn.bb: e-wm: sync version number with upstream; patch from Rasterman |
| 22:16.38 | CIA-5 | 03Carsten Haitzler (Raster) <raster@rasterman.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r1ce2a19238 10openembedded.git/packages/efl1/elementary_svn.bb: elementary: include test app .desktop and icon in package |
| 22:16.45 | CIA-5 | 03Carsten Haitzler (Raster) <raster@rasterman.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r007ed1acf5 10openembedded.git/packages/efl1/ewl_svn.bb: ewl: fix package version to match src |
| 22:16.48 | CIA-5 | 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <mickey@vanille-media.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r44a125f8eb 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: sane-srcrevs.inc: bump EFL and add sane SRCREVs for libefso and essential-dialer |
| 22:16.49 | raster | aha! |
| 22:16.52 | CIA-5 | 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <mickey@vanille-media.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r91f62d71d4 10openembedded.git/packages/efl1/ (evas-native_svn.bb evas.inc evas_svn.bb): evas[-native]: sync version number with upstream |
| 22:16.53 | raster | my patches being snarfed |
| 22:16.57 | CIA-5 | 03Carsten Haitzler (Raster) <raster@rasterman.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rab4cff6792 10openembedded.git/packages/images/illume-image.bb: illume-image: update packages to reflect contents |
| 22:16.58 | raster | eeekshellent |
| 22:17.03 | woglinde | hehe |
| 22:19.36 | CIA-5 | 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <mickey@vanille-media.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r0cf7a00782 10openembedded.git/packages/efl1/imlib2_svn.bb: imlib2: sync version with upstream |
| 22:20.50 | zecke | hmm... I should sleep... and someone else should fix that bidi rendering bug :} |
| 22:21.30 | woglinde | hehe |
| 22:24.26 | CIA-5 | 03Carsten Haitzler (Raster) <raster@rasterman.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rd312d967e8 10openembedded.git/packages/e17/e-wm_svn.bb: e-wm: sysactions package is "all" archs, not machne-specific and preload.a is not used for anything at all. not even dev. |
| 22:26.21 | mickeyl | raster: you refer to libefso and essential-dialer, however i can't find these recipes |
| 22:26.38 | raster | hmmm |
| 22:26.45 | raster | i didnt add them? |
| 22:26.48 | zecke | hehe |
| 22:26.49 | mickeyl | doesn't look like it |
| 22:26.56 | mickeyl | fwiw, I'm through with this patch run |
| 22:27.00 | raster | aaah yes |
| 22:27.01 | raster | indeed |
| 22:27.01 | mickeyl | the rest needs more review when i hav etime |
| 22:27.07 | raster | still in my own personal package list |
| 22:27.09 | mickeyl | k |
| 22:27.21 | raster | those are swisscom's little app for a simple dialler |
| 22:27.25 | raster | and fso bindings |
| 22:27.30 | mickeyl | ya, figured that |
| 22:27.42 | raster | i'm not 100% sure i should put it in... |
| 22:27.44 | mickeyl | btw. python-etk still doesn't pick up Enia.h |
| 22:27.53 | mickeyl | raster: why not? |
| 22:28.00 | mickeyl | we have lots of WIP in OE :) |
| 22:28.05 | raster | dunno |
| 22:28.11 | raster | fair enough |
| 22:28.24 | raster | let me add and gen patches |
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| 22:29.25 | mickeyl | ok, cool |
| 22:29.41 | mickeyl | btw., as a hint i removed the ones i applied (in one form or another) |
| 22:30.20 | raster | oh - already did from svn? |
| 22:31.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4335 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by likewise(AT)gmx.net |
| 22:31.07 | cdbot2 | * * netperf 2.4.4 does not build against eglibc |
| 22:31.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4335 |
| 22:32.24 | mickeyl | raster: ya, just to mark 'em for ya |
| 22:32.41 | mickeyl | please don't just regenerate |
| 22:32.47 | mickeyl | but rather check whether the diff is necessary or not |
| 22:33.02 | mickeyl | e.g. we always have lots of differences in PR |
| 22:33.05 | mickeyl | and whitespace |
| 22:33.18 | mickeyl | you don't want to carry these along :) |
| 22:33.27 | raster | mickeyl: ok |
| 22:33.29 | raster | svn udpate |
| 22:33.33 | raster | 0032 + 0033 |
| 22:33.37 | mickeyl | k |
| 22:37.16 | raster | i thnk all those patcehs are needed in some way or another |
| 22:37.57 | CIA-5 | 03Carsten Haitzler (Raster) <raster@rasterman.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r85dba54948 10openembedded.git/packages/e17/essential-dialer_svn.bb: essemtial-dialer: add swisscom essenital dialler |
| 22:37.58 | CIA-5 | 03Carsten Haitzler (Raster) <raster@rasterman.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * re7d21350b0 10openembedded.git/packages/efl1/libefso_svn.bb: libefso: add fso + edbus wrapper library package |
| 22:38.02 | raster | just some of them are simply not going into OE. - eg the palmt650 ones for keyboard |
| 22:38.10 | CIA-5 | 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <mickey@vanille-media.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r5dd2c3becd 10openembedded.git/packages/ (e17/essential-dialer_svn.bb efl1/libefso_svn.bb): |
| 22:38.10 | CIA-5 | essential-dialer: cosmetic fix |
| 22:38.10 | CIA-5 | libefso: cosmetic fix |
| 22:38.40 | raster | the glibc one is an optimisation |
| 22:38.58 | mickeyl | well, we're down to 12 now |
| 22:39.07 | raster | 0006, 0005 too - no idea who uses avahi or sftp (when dropbear exists) |
| 22:39.18 | mickeyl | 11 evcen |
| 22:39.52 | mickeyl | iirc newer dropbear don't do sftp |
| 22:40.16 | raster | 0022 definitely cleans up the x start script a bit |
| 22:40.34 | raster | it basically was buggey before -br and -ppm together means -br won |
| 22:40.47 | raster | but why sftp when u can just scp? |
| 22:41.02 | woglinde | jepp |
| 22:41.11 | woglinde | I didnt see any reason in sftp |
| 22:41.50 | raster | same |
| 22:41.57 | raster | b ut if there is some reason.. keep it |
| 22:42.13 | raster | i just cant see it |
| 22:42.28 | raster | qemu is a problem that i see - the compiler literally has assembly errors |
| 22:42.58 | raster | it cant build qemu so i need to go back to a known working qemu |
| 22:43.24 | raster | wo 22,25 & 26 are a series |
| 22:43.38 | raster | 27 i think is in oe already? |
| 22:44.32 | CIA-5 | 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <mickey@vanille-media.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r1a8a75a394 10openembedded.git/packages/efl1/evas-native_svn.bb: evas-native: DEPEND on eina-native |
| 22:44.55 | mickeyl | ya, 27 can be removed |
| 22:50.34 | mickeyl | one of these days i need to fix ecore-fb |
| 22:50.41 | mickeyl | it's broken for a while |
| 22:50.48 | mickeyl | no longer receives tslib events for some reason |
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| 22:53.32 | raster | hmmm |
| 22:53.38 | raster | that.. i didn't know |
| 22:54.10 | raster | nothnig has really changed there as best i know... |
| 22:55.53 | raster | well other than mergingi in eina... and build stuff |
| 22:55.58 | raster | no core core logic work |
| 22:59.01 | mickeyl | yea |
| 22:59.10 | mickeyl | well, lets see |
| 22:59.36 | mickeyl | i still find the idea of a fb-only bread-and-butter application interesting |
| 22:59.40 | mickeyl | with X residing on a seperate VT |
| 22:59.48 | mickeyl | the problem being softkeyboard :/ |
| 23:00.01 | raster | u'd need that as a library |
| 23:00.01 | mickeyl | i reckon illume does not work without E :) |
| 23:00.46 | raster | though as such the fb is slowly but surely being abandoned for x |
| 23:00.54 | raster | even if allu do is use x as a "fb" |
| 23:01.00 | mickeyl | well |
| 23:01.04 | mickeyl | fb-only is still faster |
| 23:01.10 | mickeyl | on everything without accel |
| 23:01.10 | raster | marginally |
| 23:01.15 | mickeyl | my numbers say otherwise |
| 23:01.17 | mickeyl | i did tests |
| 23:01.24 | mickeyl | and found it quite substantial |
| 23:01.28 | mickeyl | more than 10% |
| 23:01.37 | raster | 10% land is marginal :) |
| 23:01.37 | mickeyl | let me dig out that blog post... |
| 23:02.14 | mickeyl | 50% |
| 23:02.19 | mickeyl | 50% overhead on gta01 |
| 23:02.22 | raster | 50% is worth talking about |
| 23:02.40 | mickeyl | http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2007/12/08/framebuffer-vs-x11/ |
| 23:05.21 | mickeyl | and since we still have so many unaccellerated fb's out there, i always come back to that |
| 23:05.30 | mickeyl | i don't mind X sitting in the background on a VT |
| 23:05.34 | raster | the proiblem is multiple processes/aps |
| 23:05.39 | raster | u pretty much give up that |
| 23:05.44 | mickeyl | this i consider no problem |
| 23:05.45 | raster | it has pluisses and minuses |
| 23:05.55 | mickeyl | think typical smartphone app |
| 23:06.05 | mickeyl | remember... X sits there... just on another vt |
| 23:06.37 | raster | just feels totally unclean to me |
| 23:06.38 | mickeyl | *shrug* without a softkeyboard this idea is dead anywasy |
| 23:06.56 | raster | as now u have a completely parallel input pipeline |
| 23:07.06 | raster | app switching/manegement |
| 23:07.07 | raster | etc. |
| 23:07.09 | raster | example |
| 23:07.25 | mickeyl | i would not have app switching |
| 23:07.25 | raster | in more recent e/eillume by default power button opens up the sysconf popup |
| 23:07.39 | raster | where u get a seledction of shutdown, suspend, lock, close app and go home |
| 23:07.46 | raster | actually i should add vkbd in there |
| 23:07.47 | raster | the idea is |
| 23:07.51 | raster | if its a fullscreen app |
| 23:07.55 | raster | or the app is hung |
| 23:08.02 | raster | no matter what power butotn keeps you in control |
| 23:08.21 | raster | but now u have an "app" where that doesnt work |
| 23:09.51 | raster | also notifications, popups and such wont be seen if they are over in x and u are in fb |
| 23:09.56 | raster | it does complicate things a lot |
| 23:10.12 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 23:10.18 | raster | i can see your point |
| 23:10.32 | raster | i'm just on the "we4ll.. it's possibly not worth the effort" |
| 23:10.35 | raster | i can get > 50 |
| 23:10.44 | raster | i can get > 50% speedups in evas anyway |
| 23:10.46 | raster | in software |
| 23:11.03 | raster | tho the speedups would apply to fb too |
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| 23:22.52 | ant_ | woglinde: compared to one week ago, uclibc console image is now bloated by : autopoint 18k, gettext 18k, gettext.sh 4k, gettextize 41k, msgattrib 13k, msgcat 13k, msgcomm 1k, msgconv 10k, msgen 10k, msgfilter 15k, msgfmt 53k, msggrep 72k, msginit 32k, msgmerge 31k, msgunfmt 19k, msguniq 11k, ngettext 18k, recode-sr-latin 8k, xgettext 158k |
| 23:23.50 | ant_ | *msgcomm 12k |
| 23:24.09 | woglinde | ant yes |
| 23:24.23 | woglinde | this are all binaries we do not need on the target |
| 23:24.25 | woglinde | seems |
| 23:24.28 | ant_ | more than 500kb |
| 23:24.31 | woglinde | I have to quick fix this |
| 23:24.39 | pb_ | mickeyl: it does seem fairly startling that you are seeing a 50% performance drop with x11. do you have any idea what specifically is causing that? |
| 23:25.15 | pb_ | though, I have no idea what this benchmark is actually measuring, I guess it might be spurious. |
| 23:25.19 | woglinde | ant maybee tomorrow I will do this |
| 23:25.33 | ant_ | np, thx |
| 23:32.19 | ant_ | woglinde: the uclibcgnueabi x11-image works now...failed one week ago...gettext ?? |
| 23:36.20 | raster | pb_: for the utter most simple rendering it's an extra copy |
| 23:36.30 | woglinde | ant_ ????? |
| 23:36.33 | woglinde | why gettext |
| 23:36.40 | woglinde | I didnt touch it for some months |
| 23:36.57 | raster | example |
| 23:37.02 | raster | in this case 32bit rendeirng |
| 23:37.36 | raster | you render in 32bit |
| 23:37.46 | raster | if all your rendering is mostly just filling in pixels like with solid rects |
| 23:37.47 | ant_ | woglinde: x was not starting properly..I only saw the ross-cursor |
| 23:37.59 | woglinde | ant yes |
| 23:38.03 | ant_ | opie was fine one week ago, though |
| 23:38.04 | woglinde | but what is the fix |
| 23:38.08 | woglinde | there is no voddo |
| 23:38.22 | raster | u still need to convert 32bpp to 16bpp |
| 23:38.35 | woglinde | raster why? |
| 23:38.35 | raster | the x11 enigne needs to convert the buffer into the 16bit tmp buffer |
| 23:38.39 | raster | then copy tmp buffer to screen |
| 23:38.44 | ant_ | woglinde: he..in the meantime tynilogin is SUID again |
| 23:38.47 | raster | the fb engine can convert and copy at the same time |
| 23:38.58 | raster | so you miss the intermediate conversin buffer |
| 23:39.09 | raster | woglinde: as it converts and copies at once |
| 23:39.16 | woglinde | sometimes I didnt get a glimpse of the X stuff |
| 23:40.11 | woglinde | hm |
| 23:40.28 | woglinde | then why is 32bit better |
| 23:40.35 | woglinde | dont get it |
| 23:40.36 | raster | so when that convert is "most" of your pipeline |
| 23:40.39 | raster | it shows in benchmarks |
| 23:40.43 | raster | when your rendering is really complex |
| 23:40.49 | raster | or so small that it fits in caches |
| 23:40.59 | raster | the overhead drops |
| 23:41.06 | woglinde | raster so only for the benchmark? not general? |
| 23:41.16 | raster | you also suffer from always havnig a cache problem due to context switching |
| 23:41.30 | raster | that the cache needs to be flushed between context switches |
| 23:41.39 | woglinde | raster jepp |
| 23:41.42 | raster | in general it depends on your usage pattern |
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| 23:43.06 | raster | it's actually thanks to me taking some real shortcuts :) |
| 23:43.20 | raster | the 16bit engine of coruse doesn tneed to convert as the tm,p buffer is alreayd 16bpp |
| 23:43.32 | raster | so u actually get no speedup other than cache misses/hits |
| 23:47.09 | ant_ | XorA: the Zaurus keyboard seems broken again...keymap? |
| 23:47.31 | XorA | ant_: dont have any zauruses |
| 23:47.44 | ant_ | last xserver update had same result :d |
| 23:49.18 | woglinde | ant edev= |
| 23:49.20 | woglinde | ups |
| 23:49.22 | woglinde | edev |
| 23:49.27 | ant_ | basically no '/' |
| 23:55.15 | Tartarus | hey raster, what DISTRO/MACHINE should illume-image work on? I tried angstrom-2008.1/qemux86 but when it started up I had an empty list of languages to pick from, and nokia800 never even got past bootsplash :( |
| 23:56.20 | ant_ | XorA: wasnt this? +# since kdrive 1.4 there is no default keymap in server |
| 23:57.08 | raster | Tartarus: openmoko. you can build the illume-image |
| 23:57.13 | raster | if u want to see it working |
| 23:57.24 | raster | thats what i do my building from |
| 23:57.42 | raster | well i maintain/build the illume image as that is the "this is how illume+e should be set up" example |
| 23:57.56 | XorA | ant_: that was years ago :-) |
| 23:58.08 | ant_ | found it in xserver-common-1.22/X11/Xinit.d/12keymap |
| 23:58.16 | ant_ | seems actual again... |
| 23:58.24 | XorA | ant_: koen has been having more and more problems with kdrive and all his machines moved to Xorg because we are bored of fixing it :-) |