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| 00:25.41 | kergoth | it's pretty sad how many times variables get expanded in an OpenEmbedded build |
| 00:29.31 | mwester | kergoth: I wonder what benefits we might get in speed of metadata handling (and quality of metadata in general) if we required that all variables be declared. |
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| 00:30.28 | kergoth | i've been toying with the idea of making them immutable. and doing a = "${a} foo" would be valid, shadowing the previous layer's a with the current one's, if you were to layer the recipe, classes, conf, etc |
| 00:30.33 | kergoth | 's been mulling over lots of things |
| 00:33.18 | timtimred | angstrom booting on sheevaplug! |
| 00:33.24 | timtimred | :D |
| 00:33.52 | woglinde | timtimred hehe |
| 00:34.46 | timtimred | will tidy up and commit tomorrow eve. |
| 00:44.43 | timtimred | or maybe sooner. |
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| 04:28.01 | CIA-2 | 03Mike Westerhof <mwester@dls.net> 07org.openembedded.dev * r34be9d4ae4 10openembedded.git/recipes/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 04:28.01 | CIA-2 | libgsm, bogofilter, man: fix misuse of FILESDIR |
| 04:28.01 | CIA-2 | (Required to make these build again after some earlier changes) |
| 04:28.51 | mwester | Gee, I wish people would BUILD STUFF before they commit changes!!! |
| 04:29.38 | mwester | I feel like for every one feature I commit, I commit at least a half-dozen fixes caused because somebody checks in a change without caring to test it! |
| 04:30.45 | mwester | And what happened to sending RFCs for intrusive changes?? Changing base.bbclass should NEVER be done without an RFC, so that we all know what is going on. |
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| 11:35.50 | ant__ | good morning |
| 11:37.01 | ant__ | I see qemu-native failing strangely...and the WORKDIR seems insane... base.bbclass changes (FILESPATH)? |
| 11:38.42 | ant__ | e.g. xt-base/mmu.h.svn-base': Permission denied |
| 11:38.42 | ant__ | cp: cannot create regular file `/oe/build/tmp/angstrom/work/i686-linux/qemu-native-0.9.1+svnr4242-r14/./qemu-native-0.9.1+svnr4242-r14/trunk/target-cris/.svn/text-base/mmu.c.svn-base': Permission denied |
| 11:39.23 | ant__ | andrea@mizar /oe/build/tmp/angstrom/work/i686-linux/qemu-native-0.9.1+svnr4242-r14/qemu-native-0.9.1+svnr4242-r14/qemu-native-0.9.1+svnr4242-r14/qemu-native-0.9.1+svnr4242-r14/qemu |
| 11:39.24 | ant__ | -native-0.9.1+svnr4242-r14/qemu-native-0.9.1+svnr4242-r14/qemu-native-0.9.1+svnr4242-r14 $ |
| 11:39.25 | ant__ | ??? |
| 11:45.41 | mpoullet|home | good morning |
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| 11:48.23 | ant__ | hmm.. at least is compiling now (FILESPATH = "${FILE_DIRNAME}/qemu-0.9.1+svn/" |
| 11:48.23 | ant__ | FILESDIR = "${WORKDIR}" |
| 11:48.23 | ant__ | ) |
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| 12:07.30 | mpoullet|home | hi, I've a new dir called --no-check-certificate in my DL_DIR, what's the hell is that?? |
| 12:08.33 | mpoullet|home | it seems that it doesn't reuse the previous content of my DL_DIR |
| 12:08.48 | mpoullet|home | and fetches everything again to this new dir |
| 12:16.48 | XorA | mpoullet|home: interesting new symptoms, do you have a custom setup? |
| 12:19.14 | mpoullet|home | XorA: a little bit, here is my local.conf: http://pastebin.com/d3fe1e453 |
| 12:20.04 | mpoullet|home | doing a clean console-image rebuild right now |
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| 12:22.14 | mpoullet|home | I confirm: almost all the new downloads go in DL_DIR/--no-check-certificate |
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| 12:31.27 | XorA | mpoullet|home: it looks like an arguments to wget is being used as the destination directory, that is odd |
| 12:31.37 | XorA | mpoullet|home: cant see any obvious cause in local.conf |
| 12:32.19 | XorA | old version of wget? or non linux host? |
| 12:32.58 | mpoullet|home | XorA: well before I'v done a git pull today, it has always worked |
| 12:33.30 | mpoullet|home | I haven't update for a week or so, waiting for the packages->recipes transition |
| 12:33.41 | mpoullet|home | today I've pulled and bang... |
| 12:34.19 | mpoullet|home | XorA: wget: GNU Wget 1.11.4 on Ubuntu 8.10 |
| 12:38.15 | XorA | mpoullet|home: you might have to git-bisect to find the change that borked it :-( |
| 12:40.32 | XorA | mpoullet|home: I suspect commit 2652dfa9fb6da4423f9d556aaa289ac6fc198fe5 |
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| 12:46.47 | mpoullet|home | XorA: thanks for the tip |
| 12:47.15 | mpoullet|home | but I must first fix alsa-state :-( |
| 12:47.25 | XorA | ~curse alsa :-D |
| 12:47.26 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, alsa :-D ! |
| 12:47.45 | mpoullet|home | it breaks at do_unpack... |
| 12:48.16 | mpoullet|home | there's a cp into itself there |
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| 13:13.33 | Crofton|work | I have a feelling kergoth's commits broke alsa-state |
| 13:19.30 | mpoullet|home | oe_unpack_file is already called with the wrong file parameter... |
| 13:20.54 | mpoullet|home | it's very hard for me to trace this further, any idea from some wizz around? |
| 13:21.46 | mpoullet|home | with debugs in oe_unpack_file: http://pastebin.com/d719563ec |
| 13:23.46 | mpoullet|home | investigating further in base_do_unpack... |
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| 13:26.20 | mpoullet|home | the local variable in base_do_unpack is already wrong |
| 13:26.32 | mpoullet|home | trying to understand why |
| 13:29.33 | mwester | mpoullet|home: Exactly the same symptoms I observed. Look for FILESDIR/FILESPATH problems in the recipe itself. |
| 13:30.52 | mwester | mpoullet|home: See commit 34be9d4ae444d7109c3ea7232671bc63ec73918c for a couple of different fixes, one of which might apply for your situation |
| 13:32.53 | mpoullet|home | mwester: thanks, what is the best way to examine a single commit (still no so good at git...) |
| 13:33.08 | Crofton|work | cgit.openembedded.org |
| 13:33.26 | mwester | is it alsa-state that's broken? |
| 13:33.30 | Crofton|work | yes |
| 13:33.36 | mpoullet|home | mwester: yes |
| 13:33.45 | mwester | No direct refs to FILESDIR or FILESPATH therein. |
| 13:34.09 | mwester | But I do see a wildcard in the SRC_URI, which makes me suspicious. |
| 13:34.15 | mpoullet|home | mwester: here with some debugs: http://pastebin.com/d185a44ee |
| 13:34.31 | mwester | Try manually expanding that to the list of all the real .state files |
| 13:34.58 | mpoullet|home | mwester: debugs added this way: http://pastebin.com/d2bace82 |
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| 13:35.58 | mpoullet|home | Crofton|work: how do I locate quickly a commit in the cgit interface? |
| 13:36.49 | mwester | Just type "git show <git-hash>" |
| 13:37.03 | mwester | at the command line, and you'll get the patch that was applied. |
| 13:37.26 | mwester | bets a beer that the wildcard is the problem |
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| 13:38.59 | mpoullet|home | mwester: thanks, got it! |
| 13:40.05 | mpoullet|home | mwester: you mean file://*.state could be the problem? |
| 13:40.44 | mwester | That's a guess, but I'd try it -- should be easy to replace that with a list of the individual .state files |
| 13:42.17 | mpoullet|home | mwester: thanks, I'm trying that |
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| 13:47.55 | mpoullet|home | mwester: THANK YOU! |
| 13:48.18 | mpoullet|home | putting all the .state files in the recipe instead of using the wildcard fixes it |
| 13:48.58 | mwester | Ok. Well, I'm not sure that wildcards in SRC_URI was ever documented, but it seems a useful feature that just regressed with kergoth's fix. |
| 13:49.00 | mwester | :( |
| 13:49.20 | XorA | Im not sure they are a wise feature |
| 13:49.44 | mwester | Convenience vs Sloppiness |
| 13:49.49 | XorA | yes |
| 13:50.11 | XorA | kind of hard to check if a file is in use if you cant grep for it in meta data |
| 13:50.36 | mwester | Ah, that is a VERY good point, and I'll change my position based on that. |
| 13:51.28 | mpoullet|home | XorA: I completely agree with you |
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| 14:00.39 | Crofton | is someone going to push a fix? |
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| 14:12.44 | CIA-2 | 03Philip Balister <philip@balister.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r5667b0ad6b 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini : Add checksums for libconfig-1.3.1.tar.gz and qwo-0.4.tar.gz. |
| 14:12.44 | CIA-2 | 03Philip Balister <philip@balister.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r9429a8e008 10openembedded.git/recipes/libconfig/libconfig_1.3.1.bb: |
| 14:12.44 | CIA-2 | libconfig : Add new recipe for libconfig-1.3.1. |
| 14:12.47 | CIA-2 | Libconfig is a library for managing structured config files. |
| 14:12.49 | CIA-2 | 03Philip Balister <philip@balister.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r3ec6fa5f0b 10openembedded.git/recipes/qwo/ (qwo-0.4/check_lib.patch qwo_0.4.bb): |
| 14:12.52 | CIA-2 | qwo : Add new recipe for qwo. |
| 14:12.54 | CIA-2 | * qwo is an input method for text on hand-held devices. |
| 14:13.11 | mpoullet|home | Crofton: I've sent a patch in the ml, so that people can discuss the issue there |
| 14:13.41 | Crofton | ok |
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| 14:25.05 | schme | Oh hello #oe |
| 14:25.13 | schme | Anyone good with slugs? |
| 14:53.25 | Crofton | mpoullet|home, I agree with the patch |
| 14:53.49 | Crofton | the wild card make sit easier for people to add state files without bumping PR |
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| 14:58.19 | mpoullet|home | Crofton: yes, that's true, wildcard is evil :)! |
| 14:58.56 | Crofton | we use them in packaging a lot |
| 14:59.09 | Crofton | , but that is more ok because the input files are controlled |
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| 15:01.50 | Crofton | ah, I can fix the commit message with git commit --amend without trashing the author |
| 15:02.39 | mwester | schme: you might either try asking your question here, or if your question is not about OE but about the NSLU2, then try the #nslu2-linux channel. :) |
| 15:04.10 | mpoullet|home | Crofton: cool, thanks |
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| 15:09.25 | Crofton | ah, I can also edit the mbox prior to applying the patch |
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| 15:10.29 | Crofton | mpoullet|home, if I see a couple more acked-by's I'll go ahead and apply |
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| 15:17.39 | schme | mwester: Oh sorry there, it seems I got a brain fart and forgot the question. Very much thanks for not giving me the "don't ask to ask, you retard" (: Also thanks for pointing me to the channel there. |
| 15:23.40 | mpoullet|home | does someone know why angstrom doesn't look if DEPLOY_DIR is set or not? |
| 15:24.15 | mpoullet|home | I'm tired of always editing angstom.inc and adding DEPLOY_DIR ?= "${TMPDIR}/deploy/${ANGSTROMLIBC}" |
| 15:24.48 | mwester | Can't you put that in your local.conf? |
| 15:25.51 | mpoullet|home | mwester: I set it in my local.conf |
| 15:25.59 | mpoullet|home | but angstrom.inc ignores it |
| 15:26.15 | mpoullet|home | because of DEPLOY_DIR = "${TMPDIR}/deploy/${ANGSTROMLIBC}" in it |
| 15:26.24 | mpoullet|home | instead of ?= |
| 15:26.37 | sakoman__ | Crofton: how does qwo compare to rosetta? |
| 15:27.02 | Crofton | dunno |
| 15:27.09 | Crofton | someone else submitted it |
| 15:27.14 | Crofton | I was being helpful |
| 15:27.14 | sakoman__ | ah, OK |
| 15:27.24 | sakoman__ | guess I'll have to build it and try |
| 15:27.37 | Crofton | I think I know how to commit and edit commit message without losing author now :) |
| 15:27.51 | sakoman__ | rosetta is segfaulting in recent builds so I'm looking for an alternative |
| 15:28.06 | sakoman__ | one that has been maintained in the last few years :-) |
| 15:28.19 | sakoman__ | rosettahas been dormant for years |
| 15:28.49 | sakoman__ | Crofton: just put a From: in the patch with the submitters name |
| 15:28.51 | Crofton | I think the qwo author submitted the recipe |
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| 15:30.46 | sakoman__ | Crofton: ah, qwo isn't handwriting recognition, so it isn't an alternative |
| 15:31.04 | sakoman__ | guess I will have to keep working on rosetta |
| 15:31.13 | Crofton | bummer |
| 15:31.39 | sakoman__ | yeah, I'm not a X kind of guy and the bug seems to be in X font handling |
| 15:32.26 | sakoman__ | rosetta can't find a font it likes |
| 15:32.39 | sakoman__ | and it isn't picky at all :-) |
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| 15:44.57 | ant__ | signales a new victiom of file://xy-* keymaps_1.0.bb |
| 15:48.25 | ant__ | oh..we have still 2.4 keymaps |
| 15:48.40 | ant__ | who's using these? |
| 15:51.34 | ant__ | mpoullet|home: go and weak-assign tha variables in angstrom.inc...it's just nobody dares to commit that fix ;-) |
| 15:53.21 | ant__ | denix: ping |
| 16:01.38 | mpoullet|home | ant__: I've dared, I've submitted it on the ml :) |
| 16:01.53 | ant__ | I'm thinking about committing it now... |
| 16:02.01 | ant__ | looking for koen atm |
| 16:02.54 | ant__ | the fix to base.bbclass needs discussion, though. I see denix had same issue and solved independently in the samw way :-) |
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| 16:04.25 | mpoullet|home | achieves to do a complete console-image in 10mn using packaged-staging :-D |
| 16:04.51 | ant__ | mpoullet|home: console-image is ok, if you don'u use binary locales |
| 16:05.01 | ant__ | otherwise fix qemu_svn |
| 16:05.07 | ant__ | (I'l commit soon) |
| 16:05.27 | ant__ | and, for X11 images, keymaps is broken too |
| 16:05.41 | ant__ | noit exactly the right weekend to do tests :-) |
| 16:08.44 | mpoullet|home | does someone know how to generate a squashfs image instead of the jffs2? |
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| 16:15.55 | mwester | ant__: it's like this for one reason or another on far too many weekends! ;-) Last weekend it was the broken commit to OE that left me unable to push or sync for the entire weekend... |
| 16:16.15 | mwester | OE has just gotten rather too unstable lately, and nothing we propose seems to fix that. :( |
| 16:17.23 | mwester | I set a goal that seemed very realistic: Test SlugOS builds with an empty TMPDIR at least once per week, to make sure it builds for any SlugOS users who are interested. I find now that might have been too agressive a goal; it is very difficult just to keep it working once per week! |
| 16:19.50 | ant__ | lol |
| 16:20.27 | ant__ | mpoullet|home: ah..alsa-state fails too |
| 16:20.29 | ant__ | :/ |
| 16:20.56 | ant__ | these seems easy fixes, though |
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| 16:26.29 | mwester | I think the issue is not so much how hard the fixes are, nor if they are justifed fixes of buggy recipes -- rather it is that the commit was done with no notice, and no testing. I wasted two hours finding the problem; the author would have identified those problems and known how to fix them in 30 seconds. |
| 16:28.04 | ant__ | he...we should reject all friday's commits :-) |
| 16:28.13 | ant__ | fixes coming on monday usually... |
| 16:28.16 | Crofton|work | can I get a few more Acked-by's on the alsa-stte patch ... |
| 16:28.42 | ant__ | oh..I missed yours...I'm fixing it too... |
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| 16:29.02 | Crofton|work | the fix is mpoullet|home 's |
| 16:29.13 | Crofton|work | looks goog to me, but I want to see more people agreeing |
| 16:29.41 | ant__ | well, let's test it and ack, then |
| 16:29.50 | Crofton|work | when you like a pacthm use the line: |
| 16:30.12 | Crofton|work | Acked-by: name/email in the email, so patchwork picks it up and adds it to the patch |
| 16:30.24 | ant__ | ah, yes, patchworks |
| 16:30.44 | Crofton|work | http://patchwork.openembedded.org/patch/180/ |
| 16:35.48 | Crofton|work | ant__, the fix works |
| 16:35.48 | Crofton|work | just need enough review to make sure the wildcard is not a really brilliant idea we do not undrstand |
| 16:35.48 | ant__ | Crofton: I've fixed keymaps here in similar way...but... |
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| 16:55.13 | ant__ | mpoullet|home: good news x11-image builds again :-) |
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| 17:16.02 | CIA-2 | 03Andrea Adami <andrea.adami@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r01035b12f0 10openembedded.git/recipes/qemu/qemu_svn.bb: qemu_svn: fix FILESPATH after base.bbclass changes |
| 17:16.12 | CIA-2 | 03Andrea Adami <andrea.adami@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r6c2fa641b6 10openembedded.git/recipes/keymaps/keymaps_1.0.bb: |
| 17:16.12 | CIA-2 | keymaps: wildcard in SRC_URI doesn't work anymore, specify files |
| 17:16.12 | CIA-2 | - skip linux-2.4 keymaps |
| 17:16.12 | CIA-2 | - bump PR |
| 17:17.41 | ant__ | Crofton|work: go with alsa-state |
| 17:19.36 | Crofton | ok |
| 17:33.08 | Crofton|work | I buggered the author on the alsa-state patch |
| 17:33.10 | Crofton|work | crap |
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| 17:36.21 | CIA-2 | 03Philip Balister <philip@balister.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rda1c299463 10openembedded.git/recipes/alsa/alsa-state.bb: |
| 17:36.21 | CIA-2 | alsa-state: Wildcard removed and all *.state put back in the recipes |
| 17:36.21 | CIA-2 | Bump PR |
| 17:36.21 | CIA-2 | From: Matthieu Poullet (matthieu.poullet@gmail.com) |
| 17:36.21 | CIA-2 | Acked-by: Philip Balister (philip@balister.org) |
| 17:36.23 | CIA-2 | Acked-by: Andrea Adami (andrea.adami@gmail.com) |
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| 18:03.35 | mpoullet|home | are the discussions in #oe logged? |
| 18:03.47 | mpoullet|home | if yes, where? |
| 18:05.26 | Crofton|work | ~logs |
| 18:05.28 | ibot | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. |
| 18:05.37 | Crofton|work | ~botsnack |
| 18:05.37 | ibot | Crofton|work: aw, gee |
| 18:05.50 | mpoullet|home | Crofton|work: thanks |
| 18:05.54 | ant__ | and courtesy of hentges http://www.hentges.net/irclogs/ |
| 18:08.49 | ant__ | ok, I'm launching another build from scratch. bbl |
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| 18:13.22 | mpoullet|home | ant__: I'm glad to see that x11-image works again too :) |
| 18:14.24 | mpoullet|home | when a rebuild is done using packaged-staging, it outputs sooo much on the console, it is simply too much |
| 18:14.46 | mpoullet|home | does someone know how to reduce it? |
| 18:15.10 | mpoullet|home | I think the lines beginning with NOTE: are enough |
| 18:17.44 | mpoullet|home | especially the big paragraphs with a long list of staging-* packages name which come again and again |
| 18:33.14 | mpoullet|home | before leaving I'd like to thank all the helpfull people here |
| 18:33.19 | hrw|gone | Crofton|work, mpoullet|home: I just NACK-ed rda1c299463 patch |
| 18:33.59 | Crofton | what don't you like about it? |
| 18:34.10 | mpoullet|home | packaged-staging works almost well, my last issue is with the opkg-native, see the m-l |
| 18:34.15 | hrw|gone | read mailinglist |
| 18:34.22 | Crofton | ok |
| 18:34.36 | Crofton | can we leave it in for now so builds work? |
| 18:34.54 | hrw|gone | I would rather revert and apply it in proper way |
| 18:35.07 | Crofton | yeah, that is fine |
| 18:35.17 | hrw|gone | can you do that? |
| 18:35.20 | Crofton | but don't revert until we know what the proper fix is :) |
| 18:35.30 | hrw|gone | I listed fix |
| 18:35.31 | Crofton | no, I am about to go ride my bike |
| 18:35.34 | hrw|gone | ok |
| 18:35.40 | Crofton | nice day here |
| 18:35.46 | Crofton | :) |
| 18:35.47 | hrw|gone | 19:35 here |
| 18:35.51 | Crofton | been inside too long |
| 18:35.55 | Crofton | 1435 |
| 18:36.01 | Crofton | 17-18C |
| 18:36.25 | mpoullet|home | hrw|gone: ok, I've learned something, thanks! |
| 18:37.30 | mpoullet|home | gb |
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| 18:39.48 | Crofton | ah, I see how it should work |
| 18:40.09 | Crofton | I'll fix later, if no one else does |
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| 19:25.25 | CIA-2 | 03Marcin Juszkiewicz <hrw@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r30b5d30c27 10openembedded.git/recipes/alsa/alsa-state.bb: alsa-state: fix for a780 additional states |
| 19:25.26 | CIA-2 | 03Marcin Juszkiewicz <hrw@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r139b0c1bad 10openembedded.git/recipes/alsa/alsa-state.bb: alsa-state: ${PN} is not always 'all' - some devices have own asound.conf |
| 19:25.27 | CIA-2 | 03Marcin Juszkiewicz <hrw@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rdc6fc903ac 10openembedded.git/recipes/alsa/alsa-state.bb: alsa-state: revert wrong fix, do that better |
| 19:27.22 | hrw|gone | Crofton|work: reverted, fixed, improved |
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| 19:53.02 | Crofton | hrw|gone, thanks |
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| 20:27.04 | CIA-2 | 03Tim 'timtim' Ellis <tim.ellis@foonas.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rcd6ff2efac 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-kirkwood: Add kernel recipe for Marvell Kirkwood platforms including the Sheevaplug |
| 20:28.19 | CIA-2 | 03Tim 'timtim' Ellis <tim.ellis@foonas.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r234d560853 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/ (include/kirkwood.inc sheevaplug.conf): sheevaplug: Add machine config for Sheevaplug and a generic include for Kirkwood platforms |
| 20:28.40 | timtimred | angstrom + sheevaplug = yay. |
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| 20:57.07 | eFfeM | timtimred: nice! |
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| 20:59.56 | eFfeM | if I want to write my own install to add some functionality to do_install, what should I do to do the original install? |
| 21:00.38 | timtimred | the wisdom you seek is in a .bbclass file... |
| 21:00.53 | timtimred | strong will your understanding be if you follow this path... |
| 21:01.08 | timtimred | hungry i am... off i go... |
| 21:01.14 | timtimred | </yoda> |
| 21:01.27 | eFfeM | neither oe_runmake install nor oe_runmake DESTDIR="${D}" install does do the job |
| 21:01.38 | eFfeM | timtimred: enjoy your food |
| 21:03.24 | timtimred | eFfeM try to use linux.inc too if poss. |
| 21:04.44 | Jay7 | Release 0.10.1 of QEMU |
| 21:04.55 | Jay7 | http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2009-03/msg01052.html |
| 21:07.00 | Gnutoo | hi, how hackable is the SheevaPlug ? |
| 21:08.12 | eFfeM | as it is a dev platform i expect it to be quite hackable |
| 21:08.47 | Gnutoo | what about the bootloader: how does it load the kernel,and is the kernel easy to replace... |
| 21:09.09 | Gnutoo | by the way I saw that an OSGI implamentation is planed...will it be concierge? |
| 21:09.09 | eFfeM | no idea |
| 21:09.12 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 21:09.14 | Gnutoo | thanks |
| 21:09.20 | eFfeM | does not have a sheevaplug yet |
| 21:09.23 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 21:09.54 | eFfeM | if i recall correctly linuxdevices told that martin michlmayr was going to work on it |
| 21:10.07 | Gnutoo | there was a guy living in italy that proposed to buy sheevaplugs...and I live in italy...so I'm evaluating if I will buy one |
| 21:10.13 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 21:10.47 | eFfeM | likewise did the same, he ordered for me too, they are already ordered |
| 21:10.51 | eFfeM | he lives close to me |
| 21:11.17 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 21:12.35 | Gnutoo | maybe timtimred knows about the bootloader as he commited the machine config... |
| 21:12.53 | eFfeM | guess so but he is too busy eating atm :-) |
| 21:13.06 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 21:15.02 | mwester | Gnutoo: it is very "hackable" - the SheevaPlug is a dev platform, with full access to uboot and the ability to boot from multiple places (inc. USB). |
| 21:15.09 | timtimred | hi bootloader config? i didnt add one... |
| 21:15.13 | timtimred | um did i? |
| 21:15.19 | Gnutoo | wow...boot from usb... |
| 21:15.24 | timtimred | yes it boots from usb |
| 21:15.27 | timtimred | and NAND |
| 21:15.30 | timtimred | not SD though |
| 21:15.37 | Gnutoo | timtimred, no you didn't add it |
| 21:15.38 | timtimred | and tftp |
| 21:15.41 | Gnutoo | wow |
| 21:16.09 | Gnutoo | maybe it could replace my router one day... |
| 21:16.10 | mwester | ;-) it's almost too good to be true! |
| 21:16.16 | timtimred | theres a #openplug channel for sheeva chat too... thats reasonably populated |
| 21:16.24 | Gnutoo | wow |
| 21:16.27 | timtimred | usb booting works....... mostly |
| 21:16.42 | timtimred | occasionally it fails to find the usb storage device |
| 21:16.46 | mwester | still some bugs to work out... |
| 21:16.48 | Gnutoo | ah ok |
| 21:17.05 | timtimred | that could be my crap cheap usb key though |
| 21:17.10 | timtimred | :D |
| 21:18.16 | Gnutoo | such computer...is the perfect computer(but lack wifi hostap) for replacing web applications such as facebook,youtube,blogs etc...with cms etc... |
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| 21:18.51 | Gnutoo | it would be great if there is a company or people that [also] use it this way |
| 21:18.59 | eFfeM | aahrg, why does do_install_append not work for me |
| 21:19.10 | eFfeM | does not feel fortunate today |
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| 21:19.24 | eFfeM | Gnutoo: add a wifi dongle |
| 21:19.43 | Gnutoo | eFfeM, yes...but which one supports a reliable hostap |
| 21:19.47 | Gnutoo | ? |
| 21:20.27 | timtimred | but, you can plug it into the plug where your router is and use the ethernet :) |
| 21:20.44 | eFfeM | actually marvell has a chip with wifi but never got hold of a good src for dev boards number was 8618 or so, it was intended for voip, usb otg, audio in/out wifh (of course a phy chip needed to be added |
| 21:20.58 | eFfeM | Gnutoo: i think atheros chips have a decent hostap |
| 21:21.17 | eFfeM | or get whatever is in a wrt54gl and look what they do in their sw |
| 21:21.58 | Gnutoo | the problem for me is that it must have a free driver,and be avaliable as usb |
| 21:22.13 | Gnutoo | the broadcom work more or less well but are not avaliable as usb |
| 21:22.29 | Gnutoo | (you've also got a free firmware as bonus) |
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| 21:23.16 | timtimred | anyway i think its great for the money |
| 21:23.26 | timtimred | cant complain too much :) |
| 21:23.52 | timtimred | im not sure orders are shipping yet tho |
| 21:23.55 | Gnutoo | yes...I think i'll buy one anyway at the end |
| 21:24.26 | timtimred | :D |
| 21:25.21 | Gnutoo | The problem with the ethernet is voip...and I use voip(I've an asterisk server),moreover it's difficult for the joe user to configure his router...could it be done automatically(in the case of making a box that replace web services)? |
| 21:25.58 | Gnutoo | (I'm not complaining but rather looking how to replace my router with it...) |
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| 21:30.12 | eFfeM | true, most of the things I've seen with hostap are minipci cards |
| 21:32.56 | svolpe | exit |
| 21:33.04 | svolpe | opps sorry. |
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