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00:00.34berto-khem: no help.
00:01.03berto-/sbin/syslogd: invalid option -- D
00:02.00khemberto-: does it read /etc/syslog.conf
00:02.20berto-hmm, might not be syslog that's doing it.  i killed syslog and the messages keep appearing.
00:02.33berto-khem: yes, but it's not a standard syslog.conf.
00:02.47berto-though, i may have been barking up the wrong tree this whole time.
00:02.50khemso find out who is generating messages
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00:12.50m4they khem i dunno if you saw
00:12.56m4ti figured out the problem with slang though
00:13.55m4tfrom src/makefile.in:
00:14.02m4t+cd $(ELFDIR); $(ELF_LINK_CMD) -o $(ELFLIB_MAJOR_MINOR) $(LDFLAGS) $(OFILES) $(ELF_DEP_LIBS)
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00:14.11m4tits missing the $(LDFLAGS) there
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01:39.42m4ti fixed groff too
01:40.16m4tconfig.log had bogus include paths for x_includes and x_libs
01:42.55m4ti got a lynx.bb and lynx.inc going too if someone wants to try it
01:43.10m4tit compiled and everything looks right i just dont have my board going yet
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04:52.55m4tdoes anyone here know if i can have two different versions of gcc
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04:53.20m4tuserland was done w/ 4.1.1 but im trying to do a later kernel and i ran into the __weak problem
04:53.25m4trather the test for it
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04:53.36m4ti'd prefer not to recompile all of userland as well, if possible
04:58.12TartarusYes, you can do a kernel-only gcc
04:58.26Tartarusgrep around in the machine conf dir for KERNEL_SUFFIX
04:59.54m4thmm
05:00.16m4twell i did a dry run of 4.4.0 and it didnt look like it'd rm my  current (4.1.1) from staging, but it did
05:00.28m4ti guess switching back would be quite easy
05:00.41m4ti see what you're saying though
05:00.51m4tit can automate the switch specifically for the kernel compile..?
05:01.08TartarusYes
05:01.21TartarusIt'll give you a gcc used just for the kernel
05:01.32Tartarusit does require you to have, roughly, gcc-cross-kernel-4.4.0_4.4.0.bb
05:01.36Tartarusif you wanted to jump to 4.4.0
05:01.48TartarusThere's a few example recipes for the gcc, and it's really easy
05:01.52Tartarus(to create a new one)
05:02.02m4tcool thanks
05:02.23m4ti did a rough 'port' of the dht-walnut machine type to 2.6.30
05:02.33m4tit was at like 2.6.23 with .20 preferred i think
05:02.38TartarusYeah
05:03.02TartarusCould you do us a huge favor?  Try building for angstrom, but modify the conf file to use the normal gcc version, and report back if it works or not
05:03.30Tartarusangstrom drops ppc way back, and things build fine w/ newer gccs, but no one has HW around to test with right now and see if things boot still
05:03.40m4trather than 4.1.1?
05:03.43Tartarusyeah
05:03.43m4tyea i can try that
05:03.47Tartarusthanks!
05:03.55m4ttheres a couple packages i've fixed
05:04.00m4tslang was one of them
05:04.05m4tthat wasnt gcc related though
05:04.14m4tmakefile.in missing $(LDFLAGS)
05:04.29Tartaruspost that too please :)
05:05.13m4they, real quick, do you know if anything has been tested on native sparc/solaris?
05:05.29m4tie. w/ sun c compilers
05:06.00TartarusLets see, some time back someone was trying to use solaris as a host, hit a problem or two and didn't have the skills to further debug
05:07.34m4thmm
05:07.41m4ti might put gentoo on it or something
05:08.02m4titd work nicely as a build machine if i threw a 146g fc-al in it
05:09.29Tartarusbbt, good luck
05:10.09m4tthanks. once i achieve success with the newer builds/compilers/etc, is there a preferred format?
05:10.25m4tshould i just send a diff of the whole openembedded git repo?
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05:50.58CIA-303Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de> 07shr/import * r5dffee7f99 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/shr-autorev-unstable.inc:
05:50.58CIA-3shr-autorev-unstable.inc: set fixed rev for intone,
05:50.58CIA-3because current AUTOREV does not build
05:50.58CIA-3Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de>
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06:48.21mckoangood morning
06:49.00eFfeMmorning
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06:54.30eFfeMwhat is the simplest way to build for a different machine in the same tree ?
06:54.48eFfeMjust MACHINE=whatever bitbake whatever ?
06:55.59eFfeMah actually already found the answer to my own Q, that is indeed the way, building now
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06:58.08mckoaneFfeM: fine :-)
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07:02.49sghI have problems building x11-native ... It end up this a floating point exception.while executing ../src/util/makekeys. Any indeas?
07:08.22m4tTartarus : i added the gcc-cross-kernel for 4.4.0, with a slightly modified do_stage() (no libgcc install, seems deprecated?), and removed the old 4.4.0, reinstalled 4.1.1
07:08.37m4tthe kernel compile is using the gcc-cross-kernel now
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07:09.08m4tKERNEL_CCSUFFIX = "-4.4.0"
07:09.08m4tPREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}gcc-4.4.0 = "gcc-cross-kernel-4.4.0"
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08:26.18Laibsch1pb_: are you awake, yet?
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08:42.15Laibschpb_: can we enable bluez-libs-4.x?
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08:42.30woglindegood morning
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08:55.06CIA-303Rolf Leggewie <oe-devel@rolf.leggewie.biz> 07org.openembedded.dev * r6bd858afbb 10openembedded.git/recipes/openssl/openssl.inc:
08:55.06CIA-3openssl: add support for compilation on Via C3 host.
08:55.06CIA-3Many thanks to Phil Blundell.
09:03.26pb_Laibsch: hello
09:03.32Laibschhi
09:03.37CruX|hello all, anyone here is playing with the AT91SAM9260 CPU ?
09:03.42pb_Laibsch: yes, but there isn't yet any corresponding bluez-apps that works.
09:03.53pb_I might see if I can fix that today if I get a spare moment.
09:04.00Laibschwhich isn't needed when only using -libs, right?
09:04.14LaibschI just updated you bluez-libs recipe to 4.42
09:04.14woglindehi pb and laibsch
09:04.15mckoanCruX|: 9263, sorry
09:04.27Laibschpb_: and unified it
09:05.16pb_Laibsch: right, it's not strictly necessary.  it just means that anybody wanting the apps will end up building the libs twice.
09:05.24pb_okay, very good
09:05.25pb_hi woglinde
09:05.34Laibschdid you prepare the recipes/bluez/bluez-libs/avinfo-link.patch
09:05.35Laibsch?
09:05.42Laibschwhat is its upstream status?
09:05.57pb_no, I don't think that was one of mine.
09:06.03pb_let me check the git log
09:06.08Laibschyour recipe is the only one using it
09:06.13pb_ah, hm
09:06.16Laibschthis bluez situation is killing me
09:06.33pb_oh yes, right, that is one of mine
09:06.33LaibschI tried hard to build an image without any bluez, but ultimately failed
09:06.45Laibschapplicable to upstream?
09:06.49pb_I don't think it's needed upstream, it's just a consequence of splitting the package into -libs and -apps
09:07.00pb_but, equally, it wouldn't do any harm upstream either.  I might send it to them and see what they say.
09:07.03CruX|mckoan: i need driver for rs485, is it enough to only enable rs485 mode in usart mode registers ?
09:07.03LaibschOK, I'll update the patch with that information
09:07.15CruX|mckoan: and use it as a rs232 ?
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09:07.29pb_yeah, it is a bit sad that you can't build an image without any bluez.  there are plenty of non-bluetooth-capable machines out there.
09:07.48woglinde*sigh* why this crap works under cygwinshell but not from explorer
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09:14.06CIA-303Rolf Leggewie <oe-devel@rolf.leggewie.biz> 07org.openembedded.dev * r851c3641b5 10openembedded.git/recipes/bluez/ (bluez-libs_4.42.bb bluez-libs_4.40.bb): bluez: update bluez-libs to 4.42. unify.
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09:17.24CIA-303Rolf Leggewie <oe-devel@rolf.leggewie.biz> 07org.openembedded.dev * r079c832e00 10openembedded.git/recipes/bluez/bluez-libs/avinfo-link.patch: bluez: document upstream status of avinfo-link.patch as not applicable upstream.
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09:20.45Laibschpb_: would the bluez bb and your bluez-libs bb stpe on each other's toes?
09:21.03Laibschotherwise, just let the bluez bb (R)PROVIDE bluez-apps
09:21.05Laibschand be done
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09:21.36pb_Laibsch: they will, but not in any way that really matters.
09:21.53Laibschin what way will that be?
09:21.59LaibschI'm still stuck with
09:22.15pb_well, they will overwrite each other's libraries in staging, but the libraries will be basically identical so I doubt you will notice the difference.
09:22.33pb_if bluez and bluez-libs are the same version, the libraries should be precisely identical
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09:23.10Laibsch!oebug 5133
09:23.11cdbot2* * Bug 5133, Status: CONFIRMED, Created: 2009-05-28 19:26
09:23.12cdbot2* * matt(AT)genesi-usa.com: do_rootfs hangs when opkg-cl asks for input
09:23.13cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5133
09:28.40mckoanCruX|: is is enough to play with registers from userspace if you want
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09:36.11Laibschpb_: what about bluez-utils, don't we need a package for that, too?
09:36.55pb_Laibsch: ah, sorry, bluez-apps and bluez-utils are the same thing.  just me mis-remembering the name.
09:37.11Laibschok
09:37.26LaibschI'm in even deeper sh*t than I thought
09:37.38LaibschThere is a dependency on -utils somewhere
09:37.58pb_oh dear
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09:52.14sxhello, where is the file to put some bash commands or path variable exports in angstrom? (like .bash_profile file)
09:52.38sxcould someone help me?
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10:10.11CIA-303Rolf Leggewie <oe-devel@rolf.leggewie.biz> 07org.openembedded.dev * rcb429c4b7a 10openembedded.git/recipes/obexftp/obexftp_0.23.bb: obexftp: version 0.23 compiles fine against bluez-libs 3.x. Relax DEPENDS accordingly.
10:10.49sghI have problems building libx11-native ... It end up this a floating point exception.while executing ../src/util/makekeys. Any indeas?
10:17.02mckoansgh: would be useful to pastebin the error ;-)
10:18.31sghmckoan: http://pastebin.ca/1472329
10:18.32Laibschpb_: FYI http://paste.debian.net/40085/
10:18.40Laibschmaybe there is something important in there
10:20.09mckoansgh: which triplet distro/machine/image ?
10:21.09mckoansgh: which branch ?
10:21.14sghmckoan: angstrom_2008.1 but libx11-native from within bitbake -i
10:21.21sghmckoan: master i guess
10:22.15mckoansgh: better ask to #angstrom too
10:22.47pb_Laibsch: which package was that?
10:23.04Laibschthe bluez-libs 4.42
10:23.04pb_sgh: what's the architecture of your build host?
10:23.16sghpb_: x86
10:23.25pb_Laibsch: ah right, that's fine then.  we don't want those things to be packaged.
10:23.36pb_I'm not quite sure why they're getting built in the first place, but it's harmless to not ship them.
10:23.42Laibschok
10:23.53pb_sgh: ah, hm.  I've seen that on amd64 but I thought it worked on x86.
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10:24.03pb_I guess it must be broken on all architectures then.
10:24.25sghpb_: I wanted to try to gdb makesys but I don't know how the debug an application that need input from stdin :(
10:24.40pb_sgh: you can run it with redirects at the gdb prompt.
10:24.48pb_gdb) run < /path/to/file
10:25.06sghpb_: I'll try ...
10:25.35pb_iirc, the hash table calculation is going wrong somehow and this causes it to crash with divide by zero.
10:25.50pb_I didn't have the patience to debug it properly before, I just turned off makekeys in my build.
10:25.56pb_it'd be nice to get it fixed though
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10:30.21sghpb_:  what is the purpose of makesys. The reason for me compiling it natively is that I'm compiling VTK for the target and vtk needs to compile and execute some stuff. That stuff is compiled with the cross-compiler and therefore not runable on my buildhost :(. So I wabt to natively compile VTK and its dependencies and the move the files into my targets staging area.
10:31.25sghpb_: If I don't need it - how do I turn it off then?
10:31.36pb_ah, makesys?  I thought we were talking about makekeys.  I guess I read your earlier comment wrong.
10:31.40pb_I don't know what makesys is.
10:32.23sghpb_:  sorry your right ... it is makekeys ... my eyes are failing I guess :)
10:33.02pb_ah, okay.  it generates something to do with the keymaps.  I think you can just patch it out of the makefile, it doesn't seem to be necessary for correct operation.  both diet-x11 and regular (target) libx11 disable it, you could look at their .bb files for clues.
10:33.42pb_libx11-trim does leave it enabled for some reason.  I don't quite know what that recipe is good for.
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10:36.21sghpb_: thanks ... I will check it out.
10:37.29BusErrorhmm is there a xvncserver on oe ? Xvnc equivalent ?
10:37.48BusErroris building a sheevaplug distro
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10:54.33woglindere
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11:16.36Gnutoohi otavio
11:20.37woglindehi gnutoo
11:20.42Gnutoowoglinde, hi
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11:21.58Gnutoowoglinde, someone duplicated my work...that means that the same work was done 2 times...this isn't very optimal...that's why I have to talk to otavio
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11:22.25Gnutoowoglinde, do you go to linuxtag?
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11:33.52woglindegnutoo yes on friday and satuarday
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11:34.07Gnutoook
11:34.20Gnutoounfortunately I can't go to linuxtag...I had exams
11:34.37woglindemaybee next year
11:36.24Viltapigah, i'm still struggling with the same error message
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11:36.49Viltapiarm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-ld: ERROR: Source object .../build/tmp/cross/arm/lib/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/4.3.3/libgcc.a(_udivdi3.o) has EABI version 4, but target u-boot has EABI version 0
11:37.33Viltapii tried those eabi fixes that are under openembedded/recipes/u-boot/files but those are for some different arch
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12:12.17mckoananybody use git-sendmail with gmail imap? I need to know how to configure it
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12:18.15booxtermckoan: imap? maybe smtp?:)
12:18.49woglindeimap is only for reading
12:19.52booxtermckoan: http://pastebin.com/m7ee39b9d
12:19.59booxterhere is my settings
12:20.35Longfieldmorning
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12:21.40LongfieldGnutoo: I have tested your boost patches (1.36 only), I had to adapt them a little bit, but now it works (tested at running too)
12:21.47Longfieldhey booxter
12:22.01GnutooLongfield, wow thanks
12:22.27booxterLongfield: morning
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12:26.25favorhi,
12:28.45favorI used the newest openembedded to build Angstrom, when it was running on my B5 beagleboard, i can't use mouse && keyboard. Can you give me some cute?
12:29.03BusErroranyone working on the sheevaplug port ?
12:29.20favorcute = clue, thank
12:35.23booxterfavor: how do you connect your mouse/keyboard to BB?
12:35.41favorvia a power usb hub,
12:36.27favormy mouse/keyboard works well before I moved to newer kernel.
12:37.43favormy newer kernel version is 2.6.29-r37, I builded it in oe.
12:38.14CIA-303Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de> 07shr/import * rdf690bcd0c 10openembedded.git/recipes/connman/connman_git.bb:
12:38.14CIA-3connman_git.bb: enable the plugins via EXTRA_OECONF
12:38.14CIA-3Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de>
12:38.15CIA-303Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de> 07shr/import * r59ebc1abf3 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/shr-autorev.inc:
12:38.15CIA-3shr-autorev.inc: actually really build connman from git
12:38.19CIA-3Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de>
12:40.20favorCIA-3: excuse me?
12:41.26mckoanbooxter: I use imap with gmail :-(
12:41.39favorCIA-3: are you talking to me?
12:41.55mckoanbooxter: I'll try, thanks for the hint
12:41.56booxtermckoan: imap is not used for sending anyway
12:41.57woglindecia is just a bout
12:42.00woglindeaeh bot
12:42.09woglindefavor did you check that usb stuff is enabled
12:42.14booxtermckoan: you use smtp for both pop3 and imap4
12:42.14woglindein the kernel config?
12:42.43mckoanbooxter: you're right, so it must work :-)
12:42.51Gnutoohi, I tried several things for adding the symbols to uclibc and it doesn't work
12:43.06woglindegnutoo?
12:43.08favorwoglinde: I just know to use 'dmesg | grep -i usb' when boot in to system console.
12:43.25Gnutoowoglinde,  I  tried:
12:43.53woglindegnutoo boost agaon?
12:43.59Gnutoo* DEBUG_BUILD = "1" INHIBIT_PACKAGE_STRIP = "1" LDFLAGS =+ "-g -ggdb2" CFLAGS =+ "-Os -pipe -mips32 -mtune=mips32 -funit-at-a-time"
12:44.02Gnutoowoglinde, no
12:44.29Gnutoowoglinde, mips rootfs where every program that use shared libs segfault
12:45.02Gnutoowoglinde, it's the fault of ld-uClibc.so.0
12:45.05favorwoglinde: I checked the kernel config settings, I can see some usb stuff in input driver is enabled.
12:49.09woglindegutoo hm did you tried with -O2 instead of -Os?
12:49.15GnutooI'll try
12:49.36Gnutoois O2 the default?
12:51.30Gnutoothanks
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12:54.49NekoXPguys :)
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12:55.08NekoXPis it really necessary to call oe_sha256sum and not use the native package?
12:55.53NekoXPthe same for shasum (sha1sum for every other linux distro since modern times). Just trying to cut down on the custom tools floating around here since Fedora had 100% of the pre-cross-toolchain-build dependencies installed by default
12:57.18woglindebye toll later
12:58.26Gnutoommm...it's in bitbake.conf
13:05.12mckoanbooxter: if I do git send-email I get this message back Need MIME::Base64 and Authen::SASL todo auth at /usr/bin/git-send-email line 775, <STDIN> line 1.
13:05.34mckoanany idea?
13:05.43booxtermckoan: maybe you don't have these perl (?) modules?
13:09.04BusErroris there a way to bypass the "ERROR: QA Issue with tunctl: No GNU_HASH in the elf binary:" -- I keep running into these
13:09.36NekoXPyeah
13:11.07NekoXPthere is some INSANE_package-virtual thing you can set.. I don't recall it exactly but check insane.bbclass for a hint
13:11.28NekoXPbut it would be better if you fixed the package to compile properly with gnu-hash style hashes
13:16.47mckoanbooxter: I added those packages but still remain an error: Command unknown: 'AUTH' at /usr/bin/git-send-email line 775, <STDIN> line 1.
13:17.08mckoanbooxter: I hope to do not annoy you. Did you ever seen this error?
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13:18.41booxtermckoan: no :)
13:19.03booxterI think you should look at the problematic line to get the reason of the problem
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13:19.36booxtermckoan: btw your git is maybe quite old
13:19.43booxtergit --version ?
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13:39.32mckoanbooxter: sorry phone call. git version 1.5.6.5
13:39.59booxtermckoan: you should really update your git version...
13:43.41mckoanuh it is the debian lenny default one
13:44.17mckoanbooxter: what is your version?
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13:44.57booxtermckoan: 1.6.3.3
13:45.20booxtermckoan: don't use distro git (at least debian), build it from git
13:45.35booxtermckoan: (or use gentoo) :)
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13:50.14pb__NekoXP: yeah, that oe_sha256sum thing is a bit weird.  I don't know why it's like that; I can't think of any reason why the host sha256sum wouldn't be fine.
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14:06.29mckoanbooxter: git version 1.6.3.3 worked! thank you very much :-D
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14:09.38booxtermckoan: I got some problems with send-email when using ubuntu version too. Build from git helped me too.
14:09.58BusErrorthere are a small set of low-hanging-fruit patches on there : git://repo.or.cz/openembedded/mini2440.git   for-upstream-dev --- } have tested them for a few weeks on the -stable fork I have, but I also rebased them on -dev and they all work (on arm). anyone care to pull ?
14:10.38BusErrorwebgit view : http://repo.or.cz/w/openembedded/mini2440.git?a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/for-upstream-dev
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15:16.26BusErrorwhat is the recipe flag to prevent make -j ?
15:17.07zeckeBusError: PARALLEL_MAKE = ""
15:17.13BusErrorthanks
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15:38.12Gnutoommm...ld-uClibc.so.0 doesn't include debug info when other part of uclibc do...
15:38.33GnutooI'll have to debug at asm level
15:38.49GnutooI'll hope I'll remember enough mips assembly
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15:58.04kergothcan anyone explain the whole libusb/libusb-compat vs libusb1 situation?
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16:07.19mwesterDo you mean the upstream situation, or the way the recipes are setup/handled in OE?
16:10.27kergothboth? :)
16:12.57mwesterAs I understand, the upstream folks created libusb1 with libusb-compat to replace libusb, but some apps rely on internal knowlege of the old libusb, and will not work with libusb-compat.  Both libusb and libusb-compat provide libusb.a, so you can only have one on any given host.
16:13.29mwesterProblematic apps included (and may still include) gnuradio, dfu-util
16:14.41mwesterIn OE, various recipes depend on libusb or libusb-compat, so unless a distro is very careful, they will build both -- the results are unpredictable, as things depend on build order at that point.
16:15.14kergothugh, thats ugly
16:15.28kergothnoticed he had both in his overlay, and was concerned
16:15.36kergoth(as i should be, clearly)
16:15.54mwesterFor SlugOS, I "resolved" the problem by creating a dummy libusb recipe with version number "0" that just depends on libusb-compat -- so setting PREFERRED_VERSION_libusb to that version will not actually result in the old libusb being built.
16:16.20mwesterBut it does preclude some apps from building, the ones that don't like the new libusb-compat.
16:16.53mwesterI guess that technique qualifies as a "horrible hack", but it has worked very well for SlugOS...
16:16.57kergothi should really try to implement a prototype of private staging areas
16:17.08mwesterThat would help somewhat.
16:17.34mwesterI seem to recall that there is a run-time .so conflict as well, but perhaps not.
16:17.52kergothah.  well, one issue at a time :)
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16:18.13mwesterBut even so, a private staging area would allow static linking, which would be a reasonable solution for the old apps.
16:19.08kergoththat's true
16:19.41tharveyis there a way to alter COMPATIBLE_MACHINE vars for packages globally (outside the recipe)?  as COMPATIBLE_MACHINE is typically assigned with a hard '=' I think not unless there is some global conf files that are included 'after' the recipe
16:20.06XorAmwester: I had once wondered if we could contstruct staging on the fly from DEPENDS using some form of unionfs
16:20.11kergothCOMPATIBLE_MACHINE_pn-somerecipe, tharvey
16:20.17XorAmwester: that would clear a lot of these issues
16:20.21kergothXorA: that's the sort of thing we're talking about
16:20.38tharveykergoth, ah... so that would take precedence - thanks!
16:20.50XorAkergoth: I did actually start looking at it, but I couldnt find a reliable way to do it in userspace without root access
16:20.51kergothbetter actually making separate staging areas though, linking or overlaying on a global one still has conflicts if multiple versions of something are built, for example
16:21.11kergothpb suggested just ipkg installing the dep pstage packages into a private staging area for each recipe ,and that seems viable
16:22.36mwesterI've struck by the fact that every "major-league" SCM/build-system I've worked with inevitably comes to the conclusion that they need a "smarter" filesystem.   There is so much that can be done when you can ask questions from the FS about what *really* happened.
16:22.59kergothsounds like you want clearcase ;)
16:23.08XorAhides
16:23.28mwesterNo, I'm past that!  But ClearCase work paid my mortgage and put my kids through school.
16:23.30kergothclearcase, particularly w/ clearmake really is pretty nifty in some ways, and frightening in others, of course
16:23.35kergothah :)
16:23.45kergothokay, the svn fetcher requiring module= is just fucking stupid
16:23.48kergothadds to his list
16:23.51mwesterMost recently, I worked  with the product from ElectricCloud -- awesome build tool.
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16:24.04kergothah, nice, i read about that one a bit
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17:00.18pb__g'day kergoth
17:00.24kergothhey pb__
17:00.26kergothhow's it going?
17:00.46pb__it's my birthday today, so feeling old, but pretty good apart from that
17:01.16Nekohow old is old? :D
17:01.27pb__oh, and I'm hating xorg-xserver for not supporting multiple cards anymore
17:01.59pb__I stupidly upgraded the x on my newly-repaired desktop machine and, bam, back to one screen again.  suck.
17:02.02pb__Neko: 33
17:02.09Nekohmm that's not too bad :D
17:02.11kergothah, happy birhtday
17:02.24Nekohappy birthday. at least you're not 63 :D
17:02.28pb__heh, true enough
17:02.34kergothheh, i did that, somehow screwed up the x on my workstation, no longe rhave the patience to fuck with that stuff
17:02.38kergothi just reinstalled jaunty :P
17:03.01pb__yeah, it's annoying.  seems that something has changed in the xserver to mean that you can only have one video card nowadays
17:03.17pb__so, if you want dualhead, it has to be one card with multiple crtcs.
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17:03.23Nekograh vista is going batshit >.<
17:03.34pb__(which I do have on my desktop at the office, but that doesn't seem to work either for undisclosed reasons)
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17:03.42Nekobtw guys is there any point in reporting a ton of bugs regarding ASSUME_NATIVE for native packages?
17:03.43pb__so, all in all, frustrationsville.
17:04.26Nekofor instance using the system automake doesn't work because @INC doesn't include the native /usr/share/automake/ directory so it misses the autom4te/whatever.pm it looks for
17:05.01Nekoshasum is sha1sum on modern systems (after Fedora 2008 :) and oe_sha256sum is kind of retarded.
17:05.29kergothNeko: you really dont want to use the native autoconf/automake/libtool, we patch them.
17:05.30Nekoalso for some reason if I have ccache installed, quilt-native does not build anyway (compiler cannot create executables), so I have to use the native quilt
17:05.37Nekook
17:05.51kergothNeko: someone hsould really go through and document which ones are unmodified, and thus safe to assume the host's tools will work..
17:07.01kergothpretty sure we can stop using shasum anyway
17:07.04kergothpython has an sha module
17:07.08kergothheh
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17:07.42Nekothe idea is, as I have had this plan for a while now, I want to put up a pretty sweet little build farm, a couple Xeon 5500 servers with 8-16 cores each, running OpenEmbedded, but to get the best performance and not waste developer time (as fast as they would be) I would much prefer to have the compiler toolchains "preinstalled" (we only build for ppc and arm9 and cortex-a8) so when someone starts from scratch they don't run through 890 tasks of download/configure
17:07.42Neko/build/stage etc.
17:08.05kergothwell, you can always leverage packaged staging packages
17:08.20Nekothe same goes for all the little utils like quilt. I guess though it would not be too big a deal to make native rpms of the patched OE stuff either.
17:08.58kergothif you use packaged staging packages, you wouldnt have to mess with external toolchains and asssume provided and stuff
17:09.20Nekohow do I make OE pick that up?
17:09.35Nekoif someone gets an account and gets started, their stamps dir will be empty and OE will churn through regardless
17:10.01kergothit sounds like you've never used packaged staging
17:10.06kergoththe pstage packages include the stamps
17:10.17Nekoyou're right I never used it :D
17:10.31kergothif its available, it unpacks it into tmp, into staging and stamps, and uses that to produce the packages and all
17:11.04Nekooh.. question #297 would be.. why is it such a big problem to build using an x64 host? :(
17:11.08kergothby default it puts the packages into tmp, but if you move them out...
17:11.10Nekoabsolutely nothing works
17:11.14kergothi build on x64 hosts every day
17:11.20kergothin fact, all my machines are
17:11.29NekoI get random segfaults, python errors...
17:11.42kergothsounds like you have a problem with your desktop
17:11.43Nekopackages do not build, toolchains do not build
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17:12.12Nekowhat I considered was.. Fedora royally f**ked their 64-bit testing regime
17:12.16kergothINHERIT += "packaged-staging" to use it, change the bbclass to use ?= for PSTAGE_PKG and then you can point it to somewhere outside of tmp
17:12.28Nekohmm okay
17:12.55NekoI am considering using a 32-bit OS on there just so I can leverage psyco
17:13.10Neko64-bit python is fast but it is nowhere near as good as the same box in 32-bit with psyco
17:13.38CIA-303Chris Larson <clarson@mvista.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r614b2f8ee4 10openembedded.git/classes/packaged-staging.bbclass:
17:13.38CIA-3packaged-staging.bbclass: use ?= for PSTAGE_PKG.
17:13.38CIA-3Signed-off-by: Chris Larson <clarson@mvista.com>
17:14.13Nekohuh kergoth is that a coincidence or you nudging the bot? :D
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17:14.27kergothneither, i just got sick of it not using it, and pushed the change
17:14.46Nekois this going into stable/2009 or do I have to move to dev?
17:15.13kergothknows nothing about stable, ask a stable developer
17:15.15Neko(not that I can't hack it but, I hate having an unclean OE tree, makes git pulls a nightmare)
17:15.47NekoI already had to bitchslap autoconf.bbclass or so because --exclude=autopoint is not a valid option (!?!)
17:16.20kergothits valid for our autoconf
17:16.29NekoI was using your autoconf
17:16.30kergoththats why i said you shouldnt be using the one on your machine
17:16.32kergothno, you weren't
17:16.40kergoththe autoconf-native in OpenEmbedded has the patches for that option
17:16.44Nekothis was before I was playing with assume_provided
17:17.01kergothwell, dunno what to tell you.  the OpenEmbedded autoconf-native supports that
17:17.01Nekoit's one of the things that made me want to try it :D
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17:19.00Nekoare there any docs on packaged-staging?
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17:22.38kergothi doubt it.  i doubt any are necessary
17:25.00Nekoquestion #8900 - if I use inherit icecc even though native is blocked as a class, every time it builkds it is giving me which: no gcc in (null)) and then finally /oe/icecc-env.sh: line 83: echo: write error: Broken pipe
17:25.23Nekoit's all working but it seems it's not so much blocked as intentionally passed something broken so it doesn't get used
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17:42.24Nekopff and as usual poky is totally broken and doesn't build
17:42.34Nekoi thought intel buying those guys would stop the gentooism.
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18:14.44CIA-303Chris Larson <clarson@mvista.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r151de3a580 10openembedded.git/ (classes/base.bbclass conf/bitbake.conf):
18:14.44CIA-3bitbake.conf, base.bbclass: Changed build config summary header to be a variable.
18:14.44CIA-3Default in bitbake.conf for BUILDCFG_HEADER is "Build Configuration". This
18:14.45CIA-3lets distributions make their builds ever so slightly prettier :)
18:14.45CIA-3Signed-off-by: Chris Larson <clarson@mvista.com>
18:14.48CIA-3Acked-by: Marcin Juszkiewicz <marcin@juszkiewicz.com.pl>
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18:31.33mickey|linuxtagwhat are you transforming into?
18:31.35mickey|linuxtaggood evening
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18:34.41Gnutoomaybe in a bug device?
18:35.16Gnutooit's seems a transformable hardware
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19:04.21woglindere
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19:10.36Gnutoowoglinde, hi is it normal that woglinde have no debug info but the other part of uclibc do?
19:10.53woglindegnutoo what?
19:11.00woglindeI am not a ki
19:11.01Gnutoowoglinde, oops
19:12.02Gnutoowoglinde,lol sorry
19:12.02GnutooI meant ld-uClibc.so.0
19:12.02khemGnutoo: yes
19:12.02GnutooI copy pasted the lib name than your name and you bet what happend...
19:12.03woglindegnutoo khem is back
19:12.11woglindeso you can ask him about uclibc too
19:12.16Gnutooso I bet I've to debug the assembly part...
19:12.17woglindehe knows more than me
19:12.18khemGnutoo: ld overrides the CFLAGS
19:12.23Gnutoook
19:12.57GnutooI'll look at bitbake.conf
19:13.35Gnutooso DEBUG_OPTIMIZATION = "-O -fno-omit-frame-pointer -g -ggdb3" is CFLAGS?
19:13.47Gnutoos/?//
19:14.08khemGnutoo: yes should be if you use them
19:14.15Gnutoook
19:14.29woglindegnutoo hm you have to watch out what uclibc really uses
19:14.35GnutooI just saw lower in bitbake.conf that it is
19:14.42woglindebecause the normal gcc call is hide
19:14.48woglindeyou dont really see the options
19:14.50Gnutoook
19:15.12CIA-303Tom Rini <trini@embeddedalley.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r33615f3f32 10openembedded.git/ (5 files in 3 dirs): alsa: Add alsa-lib/plugins/utils 1.0.19
19:15.13CIA-303Tom Rini <trini@embeddedalley.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc90998b875 10openembedded.git/recipes/pulseaudio/ (6 files):
19:15.13CIA-3pulseaudio: Switch to INC_PR, add openssl to DEPENDS.
19:15.13CIA-3Also remove dbus from the version specific DEPENDS lines as it's in the inc file
19:15.16woglindekhem V=1 or something for the real gcc calls?
19:15.17CIA-303Tom Rini <trini@embeddedalley.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r0b3740da98 10openembedded.git/recipes/gdb/ (gdbserver.inc gdbserver_6.7.1.bb gdbserver_6.8.bb):
19:15.20CIA-3gdbserver: Switch to INC_PR, add LICENSE, only build gdbserver, drop DEPENDS
19:15.22CIA-3To build just gdbserver, we don't need ncurses or readline, so drop the DEPENDS
19:15.24CIA-3and pass --without- for configure. Also, we don't need to build anything more
19:15.26CIA-3than 'gdbserver'.
19:15.28CIA-303Tom Rini <trini@embeddedalley.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rcdfc5e8896 10openembedded.git/recipes/meta/meta-toolchain.bb: meta-toolchain: Oops, we want layout_libdir not layout_base_libdir for opkg
19:15.34GnutooI'll modify bitbake.conf
19:16.14khemwoglinde: yes V=1 you can see the gcc commandline
19:16.26khemI need to buy new battery for my MBP
19:16.36woglindembp?
19:16.43khemmacbook pro
19:16.58khemit runs like 10 mins these days
19:17.16woglindehehe
19:17.53khemIts 3 yrs old now
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19:23.52lisandropmhello
19:24.20lisandropmI am doing a kernel recipe in it, I need to create some files in the kernel tree
19:24.41lisandropmI started crteing diffs and trying to patch the original sources
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19:25.07woglindelisandropm look at quilt
19:25.08lisandropmbut bitbake fails complaining that the file to patch doesn't exists (which is the idea, I need to create it :-) )
19:25.12woglindeits easy to use
19:25.17lisandropmwoglinde: quilt? ok!
19:25.27woglindeand provides you easy patches
19:25.34woglindeshort workflow
19:25.42woglindequilt new mypatch
19:26.03woglindequilt edit filexy.c
19:26.09woglindeafter editing
19:26.33woglindequilte refresh
19:26.42woglindethen the patch is under patches
19:26.46woglindein oe
19:27.11lisandropmexcellent, I'll stw for it
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19:28.03woglindeput the patch under recipes/linux/linux-versionumber/yourmachine/
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19:29.56lisandropmI was trying creating a new recipe (hardware not under oe... yet :-) )
19:30.06lisandropmbut basing myself on it :-)
19:30.34woglindewhy a new kernel recipe?
19:30.41woglindedo you have such big patches?
19:30.50woglindeor your kernel under git?
19:30.55lisandropmno, just a newbie here :-D
19:31.16lisandropmthe kernel has modifications from the vendor of the set
19:31.33lisandropmbut has a horrible toolchain
19:31.54lisandropmso I'm porting it to OE :-)
19:32.16woglindeokay
19:32.36woglindesend your patches to the oe-devel mailinglist for review
19:32.57lisandropmI will, but take into account that I didn't do those myself
19:33.21lisandropmmeaning: I do not have a precise idea of what they do (but learning them during the process :- )
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19:37.28woglindehm if you want if offical in oe you have to provide patches
19:37.29woglinde*g*
19:41.22lisandropmI know, I just don't want to send patches I cannot say what they do :-)
19:41.29lisandropmbut will do my best for ot
19:41.32lisandropm*it
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19:42.01woglinde???
19:42.06woglindeno you didnt understand me
19:42.11woglindefully
19:42.18woglindenot only the kernel patches
19:42.26woglindethe patches for oe itself
19:42.30woglindemachine.conf
19:42.43lisandropmah, yes, of course
19:42.46woglindeand the linux---.bb's
19:52.33BusErrorso how do I fix a "bad rpath" ??
19:52.56woglindelook at linking
19:53.08woglindeseems the buildsystem of the soft made mistakes
19:53.23BusErrorit's some autoconf mess
19:55.50woglindebuserror do you have some pastebins for me?
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19:56.35BusErrorwell I'll post the .bb and the log hold on
19:59.11BusErrorwoglinde, http://pastebin.com/m571fbbea
19:59.52BusErrorthe old libftdi faisl completely, so I tought I'd update it since I need support for the new IC anyway. it /almost/ works :>
20:00.10woglindehm ftdi
20:00.15woglindethere was something
20:00.27woglindebut its to far away I remember
20:00.43woglindethe log is not enough
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20:01.16BusErrorI'm fishing the full log
20:01.21woglindehm wait
20:01.40woglinde0.16?
20:01.44woglindeversion
20:01.45BusErroryes
20:01.47woglindethe latest?
20:01.48woglindeokay
20:02.04BusErrorthey are conservative with version numbers :>
20:02.54BusErrorwhich log you want ? do_compile, do_configure ?
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20:05.57woglindedo_compile
20:06.00woglindeand do_install
20:08.17BusErrorhttp://oomz.net/log.txt and
20:08.21BusErrorhttp://oomz.net/logi.txt
20:09.28woglindebuserror where did you buy the sheeva?
20:09.43GnutooI'll do the debugging of the mips rootfs later...now I have to help someone make a recipe
20:09.54BusErrorglobalscale website. took forever to arrive...
20:11.37woglindebuserror do you really need the examples?
20:11.49woglindethe examples making the errors
20:12.17BusErrornope, not at all.
20:12.45BusErroroh ? hmm maybe there's a --without-examples
20:12.49woglindeso they should end up in the normal package anyway
20:12.56woglindeaeh shouldnt
20:13.10woglindenope
20:13.16woglindepatching Makefile.am
20:13.23woglindeand remove examples
20:13.39woglindeotherwise you have to add a m4 macro to configure.in
20:13.52woglindeand an ifdef in Makefile.am
20:14.04woglindechoose whats easier
20:14.27BusErrorheh well. I rather suspect nobody would /install/ examples for that anyway
20:14.55woglindeexamples could be installed in another package
20:14.57woglinde*g*
20:15.11woglindedepends on you how much effort you want invest
20:17.29BusErrorwell, I already broke my teeth on wvdial earlier, I want an easy out on this one :>
20:17.30woglindehehe
20:17.30woglindethen patch Makefile.am and remove examples
20:18.14BusErrorbtw, wvdial won't work on mipsel and arm* -- the wvstreams library uses "getcontext" api that is nor implemented on these. So I spent forever fixing new upsteam version in, gor it to work, and it faisl at runtime...
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20:30.33woglindewow
20:30.37woglindethis is cool
20:30.42woglindebesides the sheeva
20:30.47woglindehttp://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/t-openrdcdetails.aspx#component
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20:33.10BusErrorwoglinde, it's not out, yet, I think
20:33.37woglindehttp://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/c-2-globalscale-technologies-products.aspx?currencysetting=EUR&
20:37.15gremlin[it]woglinde, niceeeeeeeeeeeeeee
20:37.40gremlin[it]but i'll like more something with a raw LCD interface ;)
20:38.03woglindegremlin right
20:38.14woglindebut that would cost some more I think
20:38.53gremlin[it]woglinde, should not ...
20:39.02woglindegremlin should
20:39.08woglindebut they have to design it new
20:39.12woglindefor you
20:39.14woglindeat the moment
20:39.19woglindeand that would cost
20:39.49gremlin[it]ahh ... in this sense true !
20:45.04m4tanyone here tried 2.6.30 w/ 4.4.0?
20:45.32woglindem4t not yet
20:46.18m4tit worked fine as my main compiler, but there is a CONFIG_FRAME_WARN=1024 directive
20:46.47m4tthat uses some compiler flag, but it seems when i try to use it as a gcc-cross-kernel.bb style package, it isnt compiled in
20:46.49pb__fwiw, I don't think it'd be all that hard to implement getcontext()/setcontext() for arm if there is software that needs them.
20:51.02m4talso, is there a preferred way to remove a compiler package from ./tmp/cross?
20:51.11m4tbitbake -c clean doesnt do it
20:53.32m4tthis is what i am seeing now, btw, with 4.4.0:
20:53.33m4t| cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wframe-larger-than=1024"
20:53.34m4t| cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-fno-dwarf2-cfi-asm"
20:54.14m4ti found the mailing list post when it was added to the kernel tree
20:54.30m4tbut i dont know why the compiler doesnt support those flags
20:54.41m4tsomething about the gcc-cross-kernel.bb, i think
20:55.07woglindemaybee they are removed?
20:55.19m4ti just reinstalled/recompiled it
20:55.35woglindeI meant the removed the options in gcc-4.4
20:55.51m4toh
20:55.53m4tyea
20:56.22m4tthe kernel compile succeeded when i simply used gcc_cross-4.4.0.bb though
20:56.44m4trather than 'wrapping' it in the gcc-cross-kernel package
20:57.30woglindehm gcc-cross-kernel we only needed for older kernel which could only be compiled with gcc-3
20:58.15m4toh
20:58.25m4twell, angstrom/ppc405 is stuck at 4.1.1
20:58.32m4tand that is what my userland is done with
20:58.33TartarusWell, hang on
20:58.42m4tk
20:58.48Tartarusgcc-cross-kernel is generally useful
20:58.48CIA-303Rolf Leggewie <oe-devel@rolf.leggewie.biz> 07org.openembedded.dev * r14b1edc935 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/minimal.conf: conf: remove bluetooth from DISTRO_FEATURES in minimal.conf
20:58.57TartarusWe used it for cortex a8 stuff too :)
20:59.14TartarusAnd angstrom could move to 4.3.3 for ppc, if someone boot tests it :)
20:59.34m4ti tried 4.3.3 for the 2.6.30 compile
20:59.44m4tand it fails at the __weak test saying my compiler is too old
20:59.52m4ti think my cross/ directory might be screwy at this point
21:00.04Tartarusok
21:00.16Tartarusnow, whats your gcc-cross-kernel-4.4.0_4.4.0.bb look like?
21:00.17Tartarusjust:
21:00.22Tartarusrequire gcc-cross-initial_${PV}.bb
21:00.23Tartarusrequire gcc-cross-kernel.inc
21:00.23Tartarus?
21:00.34m4ti had to add a do_stage() because install-libgcc doesnt exist
21:00.42m4tit doesnt exist in 4.3.3 apparently either
21:00.50Tartarusah yes, thats true
21:00.52m4ti tried substituting it with install-multilib as well
21:01.06Tartarusi think you can just drop the line, but i forget
21:01.32m4tgcc -v shows a different thread model than my *initial* 4.1.1 had too
21:01.38m4tsingle vs. posix
21:01.43m4tand much less configure options
21:04.20woglinde????
21:04.29woglindewhy do_stage for cross_compiler?
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21:05.28m4ti dunno that's what is defined in gcc-cross-kernel.inc
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21:17.27BusError[repost] there are a small set of low-hanging-fruit patches on there : git://repo.or.cz/openembedded/mini2440.git   for-upstream-dev --- } have tested them for a few weeks on the -stable fork I have, but I also rebased them on -dev and they all work (on arm). anyone care to pull ?
21:19.11ant__denix: ping
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21:41.16CIA-303Rolf Leggewie <oe-devel@rolf.leggewie.biz> 07org.openembedded.dev * ra4ee92d0a8 10openembedded.git/recipes/tasks/task-opie.bb: task-opie: make inclusion of irda and bluetooth tasks contingent upon COMBINED_FEATURES
21:41.19CIA-303Rolf Leggewie <oe-devel@rolf.leggewie.biz> 07org.openembedded.dev * r3dede602a9 10openembedded.git/recipes/images/opie-image.bb: opie-image: make inclusion of irda and bluetooth tasks contingent upon COMBINED_FEATURES
21:42.04ant__Laibsch: ping
21:42.18Laibschno need to ping, just ask your question
21:42.24Laibschsaves one round-trip
21:42.56ant__is a bit OT
21:43.09ant__about sharprom-compatible
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21:43.37Laibschsounds onT to me
21:43.46ant__I'm testing a patch allowing to eliminate the silly gcc-2.95 thing from build logs
21:44.11ant__still I have yet to see if it doesn't break sharprom distro
21:44.31ant__I'll show you the patch soon
21:44.48woglindehm eclipse now with native coca on mac
21:44.51ant__..building collie now (the other 5 are done :)
21:46.01Laibschok, let me know when there is something to look at
21:46.14ant__Laibsch: pls remember Pavel Machek asked for a serial cable
21:46.30ant__surely worth to send :)
21:47.45LaibschHave him send me a mail
21:47.49LaibschI'm back in Europe
21:47.57ant__fine, thx
21:48.18ant__ah..collie still NOTE: Runtime target 'virtual/arm-angstrom-linux-gcc-2.95' is unbuildable, removing...
21:48.22LaibschI need to dig it out of the relocation cartons
21:48.28ant__ok, let me finish drastically...
21:49.04ant__wow..collie has so many kernels in OE...
21:49.13ant__so many old kernels...
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22:20.19denixant__: pong
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22:21.09ant__hi denix, as I said, I'm editing sharprom-compatible
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22:22.47denixant__: any problems with it?
22:23.06ant__hopefully not.. I'm finishing the build for collie
22:23.12ant__(angstrom)
22:23.36ant__I'm eradicating the gcc-2.95 legacy messages
22:23.48ant__see:
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22:26.29ant__http://fr.pastebin.ca/1473352
22:26.40ant__denix: Laibsch: ^^ this is the idea
22:27.41denixah, nice!
22:28.45ant__there was a similar post some hours ago
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23:29.59khemwhy do we need gcc-cross-kernel recipe
23:40.17Tartarusm4t is trying to not jump his whole project from 4.1.1 to 4.4.0
23:40.35TartarusBut in general there's times where it's useful / needed to have a different compiler for the kernel than the rest of the world
23:41.25khemTartarus: IMO building a full cross-compiler and then doing kernel build is a little sane thing to do in already insane cross compilation world
23:41.43khemTartarus: what does it buy
23:41.49khemcompilation time ?
23:42.18TartarusHmm?
23:42.22TartarusOver what?
23:42.35khemcomplete gcc build
23:42.45TartarusEr
23:42.48khemor rathar toolchain build
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23:42.55TartarusWe don't otherwise allow for gccs to co-exist
23:43.20TartarusAnd yes, sometimes you need one gcc version for the kernel and one for the rest of the world
23:44.51khemIMO using same gcc for kernel and rest is a better integration when you think of interface between kernel and libc
23:45.01khemand changes like EABI
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23:54.13TartarusNot always possible
23:54.16TartarusThat's the problem
23:55.43khemmay be then create a kernel SDK
23:55.52khemfor kernel and modules

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