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02:01.07NekoXPif I restarted a build with packaged-staging enabled but didn't set the pstage directory where on earth did it get put?
02:02.29NekoXPcan I just copy everything from tmp/deploy/glibc/pstage to my permanent pstage dir and have it pick them up still?
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02:13.53Tartarusnope, gotta have it from the start
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06:39.28BlindManmorning folks
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06:53.01Treibholzgreat, even with the defconfig from /proc/config.gz my kernel crashes (same kernel-version!)
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07:02.34ViltapiI get an error message "/bin/sh: arm-linux-gcc: command not found" when trying to build u-boot for a custom board. How can I get OE to build the needed tools?
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07:05.36TreibholzViltapi: "bitbake u-boot" doesn't work?
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07:08.05ViltapiTreibholz: nope, the problem is that I need to build u-boot with a different toolchain than the rest of the image
07:09.07Viltapibecause if I only try "bitbake u-boot" i get "arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-ld: ERROR: Source object .../build/tmp/cross/arm/lib/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/4.3.3/libgcc.a(_udivdi3.o) has EABI version 4, but target u-boot has EABI version 0"
07:09.50Viltapiand to solve that i read that i should be using arm-linux-gcc instead of arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi
07:12.15Viltapii made a change so that it tries to use the right chain but i don't know how to get OE to build it first
07:15.28TreibholzViltapi: maybe the easiest thing is to use a second environment.
07:17.50ViltapiTreibholz: hmm, but still, how would i get OE to build those tools needed for building u-boot even in that second environment?
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07:52.12sghhow do I force at dependency to NOT compiel the latest and greatest verson ?
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07:57.54sghfx. if I have sw1_1.2.bb and sw1_1.3.bb how can I then force "build sw1" to build version 1.2 ?
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08:02.25pb__PREFERRED_VERSION_sw1 = "1.2"
08:03.46oespiritsgh: or you could add a line: DEFAULT_PREFERENCE="<some positive number>" in the 1.2 recipe
08:04.15sghoespirit: thank you ... It seems to be missing in the manual ...
08:04.32oespiritsgh: I found it in the manual :)
08:05.09sghoespirit: argh .. http://bec-systems.com/oe/html/index.html ?
08:06.36oespiritsgh: errr...dont know about that one. I read it here : http://docs.openembedded.org/usermanual/usermanual.html
08:07.58sghoespirit: thanks ... seems to be more complete
08:08.25oespiritsgh: yup, its the "official manual" as the main site says :)
08:08.42sghoespirit: I'll use that from now on
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08:55.58florianhi all
09:18.29oespirithello florian
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09:28.58oespiritwhile editing a general makefile to add an OE recipe for it, is it ok to use OE variables (something like ${STAGING_BINDIR}) and OE-style soft assignments  in the Makefile?
09:29.45pb_florian: good morning
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10:31.43BlindManhrm
10:32.11BlindManhas OE the capability to have some kind of bookkeeping to redo compilations with a certian toolchain, certain packages
10:32.19BlindManso that it's guaranteed it does the same verytime?
10:32.24BlindManor rahter, the output is the same
10:32.37BlindManor like, being able to revert back
10:32.49BlindManor if so, you have to have to use tags with an SCM or whatever
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11:29.55CIA-103Jeremy Lainé <jeremy.laine@m4x.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r62e92c381d 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/linux_2.6.29.bb: linux-2.6.29: remove SQN11xx hack for boc01
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12:07.50sasaI want to ask a stupid question... if I want to add a package X I would use bitbake X but the problem is...
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12:08.42sasahow do I know what X is called? where can I find a list of packages available? perhaps I am missing something in my understanding?
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12:16.39hrwmorning
12:17.36florianhi hrw
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12:24.58mckoangood afternoon
12:25.04spaetzsasa bitbake -s shows all available versions for example
12:25.12spaetzall preferred versions at least
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12:47.35hrwflorian: looks like ATI radeon support improved a lot since I looked at it last time
12:47.41mario-goulartHi Gnutoo
12:47.48Gnutoohi
12:47.58florianhrw: do you have a candidate already?
12:48.16Gnutoomario-goulart, yesterday I realized that I was doing something wrong with gdb
12:48.17mario-goulartGnutoo: I see you could run gdbserver on your mips system.
12:48.28hrwflorian: no - just checked my wife's laptop
12:48.36florian:-)
12:48.46mario-goulartGnutoo: what a coincidence. I was about to ask about it. :-)
12:48.49Gnutoomario-goulart, I was doing gdbserver 168.0.0.139 chroot /mnt/NFS /bin/hello
12:48.49hrwflorian: its 2.5 year old celeron based one but with ATI RS482 chipset
12:49.04Gnutoomario-goulart, but I was doing file hello
12:49.20Gnutoomario-goulart, I'll try that when my new rootfs witll be ready:
12:49.53Gnutoomario-goulart, chroot gdbserver 168.0.0.139:8022 /bin/hello
12:49.57hrwflorian: I have another thing to add to the list :(
12:50.02mario-goulartGnutoo: ok.  I don't know gdbserver.  I'll take a look at that.
12:50.30florianhrw: did you have ssd in there?
12:50.58XorAbegins to think a successful trac installation relies more on luck than any goodness in the code
12:51.49florianXorA: The interesting job starts after this - there are soo many projects with incredibly bad websites using trac out there.
12:52.34XorAflorian: I have found a way to break trac using mod_python, which doesnt show up in mod_python and generates no sensible error logs
12:52.45XorAdoesnt show up in tracd
12:52.52Gnutoomario-goulart, my compiler is broken so I am bitbaking a new rootfs it will take some time
12:53.08mario-goulartGnutoo: right.
12:53.12Gnutoomario-goulart, but as I'm compiling the micro-base-image it will be faster
12:53.12hrwflorian: no
12:53.22hrwflorian: SSD bumps cost too much
12:53.35mario-goulartGnutoo: did you have problems when building readline for mips?
12:53.39XorAhas 40G of ssd
12:53.54Gnutoomario-goulart, don't know...is it part of the micro-base-image?
12:53.56florianhrw: you have a little daughter :)
12:54.15mario-goulartGnutoo: as far as I can see, it's a dependency for gdbserver
12:54.33Gnutoomario-goulart, ah ok...I'll look when it will be cross-compiled
12:54.41mario-goulartGnutoo: at least it poped up when I added gdbserver to the IMAGE_INSTALL var
12:54.46Gnutoomario-goulart, because my old gdbserver came from openwrt
12:54.52mario-goulartGnutoo: ah, ok.
12:54.53Gnutoomario-goulart, ok
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12:59.33hrwflorian: which is not allowed to be in this room
13:00.26florianhrw: ok, i use my laptop everywhere :)
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13:03.03valhallaI'm having a problem with a xapian-bindings-python recipe I'm trying to write: xapian-bindings uses autotools and the configure checks for the existance of Python.h in the directory found by doing $PYTHON -c 'import os,distutils.sysconfig;print(distutils.sysconfig.get_python_inc().replace(os.sep,"/"))'
13:04.08valhallabuilding for the beagleboard, this directory is $TMP/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/python2.6 with just arm instead of armv7a
13:04.49valhallawhere arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi is taken by python from HOST_SYS
13:07.28valhallashould I patch the configure to take the directory from an env variable or what?
13:08.06CIA-103ghost <andreas.monzner@multimedia-labs.de> 07org.openembedded.dreambox * rbc9dc9612e 10openembedded.git/packages/dreambox/dreambox-dvb-modules.bb:
13:08.06CIA-1dreambox-dvb-modules.bb: new dm800 drivers to fix progressive/interlaced detection
13:08.06CIA-1and strange scaling effects on channel change
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13:11.37valhallaor how safe would it be to put HOST_SYS=${MULTIMACH_HOST_SYS} autotools_do_configure in the do_configure ()?
13:14.22mario-goulartGnutoo: I've built openwrt's system with V=99 (verbose) so I can see how things are build.  Maybe we can find something comparing OE's and openwrt's builds.
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13:15.21sasaI have this problem: ERROR: see log in /home/matt/beagle/OE/angstrom-dev/work/x86_64-linux/glib-2.0-native-2.18.0-r4/temp/log.do_stage.22846...
13:15.52sasawhen building with bitbake. I don't know what to do about it or  how to debug any advice?
13:16.30pb_sasa: did you do as it suggests and see the log?
13:17.57hrwhmm.. looks like I need to patch include/linux/pci_ids.h
13:18.15Gnutoomario-goulart, ok
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13:19.00sasaYes the log didn't enlighten me: one line of interest: FATAL: oe_libinstall: gobject/.libs/libgobject-2.0.so.0.1800.0 not found...
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13:23.48mckoanhi, I need to customize etc/X11/Xserver on target machine AT91SAM9, I edited recipes/xserver-kdrive-common/xserver-kdrive-common/Xserver but my settings don't go into the filal image
13:23.55mckoanhttp://patchwork.openembedded.org/patch/800/
13:24.11mckoanwhere do I have to add such setting?
13:24.46florianshoots xserver-kdrive-common
13:25.18florianmckoan: depending on the image you built you get xserver-common or xserver-kdrive common into the image :-(
13:25.52mckoanflorian: MACHINE=ronetix-pm9263; bitbake x11-image
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13:26.18florianhmm... x11-image should be xserver-kdrive-common
13:26.48florianmckoan: did you increment PR?
13:29.12mckoanflorian: not yet
13:29.45florianmckoan: then you need to make sure that the package get built with the changes
13:29.51florian+s
13:30.15mckoanflorian: PR bump involves the building flow or it is required only from patching rules?
13:30.48mckoanflorian: what does '+s' mean?
13:31.54florianmckoan: it indicates that there is a change which will result in a differnt package then the revision before. oe looks for this to decide if a package needs to be build again
13:32.22florianmckoan: there was an 's' missing in the sentence before
13:33.12florianmckoan: bitbake xserver-kdrive-common -c clean will make oe to build it again even without changing PR
13:33.43pb_sasa: well, that error sounds fairly clear.  I guess you need to inspect the other logfiles to find out why the library isn't in the place where it's expected.
13:35.49Caeliansince it's referring to gobject/.libs/libgobject-2.0.so.* it sounds like the build of gobject itself failed to build libgobject.so
13:37.50mckoanflorian: I have even done a complete remuild (deleting tmp) unsuccessfully
13:38.05mckoans/remuild/rebuild
13:38.26mckoanflorian: BTW I'm trying xserver-kdrive-common -c clean as you suggested
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13:38.39pb_Caelian: indeed, it seems.
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13:40.12florianmckoan: ok... scary... does this image maybe use xserver-nodm-init?!
13:41.21Caeliani am having fun trying to work through defining and configuring a completely new OE-based distro for our own internal purposes at work ... it's been educational so far :)
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13:45.52mckoanwhere is created the root filesystem image before it is packed into a jffs2 ?
13:46.11mckoan$OE/tmp/somwhere
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13:51.04florianmckoan: $TMPDIR/rootfs
13:52.15mckoanflorian: it's empty, why?
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13:53.49florianmckoan: you have a jffs2 image but no $TMPTIR/rootfs/<image-target> subdir?
13:56.00mckoanflorian: yes
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13:57.27CIA-103David Batzle <dbatzle@dcbcyber.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r5b5a19ac03 10openembedded.git/recipes/irrlicht/ (files/irrlicht_beagle.diff irrlicht-examples-gles.bb): irrlicht: add recipe to build irrlicht demos against a GLES1.1 lib
13:57.46florianscratches head
13:58.21hrwflorian: recently we commited change to drop tmp/rootfs after creation of image
13:58.34hrwmckoan: IMAGE_FSTYPES += "tar" in local.conf
13:59.02florianhrw:
13:59.07florianhrw: oops... why this?
13:59.25mckoanhrw: I have the usual IMAGE_FSTYPES += "tar.bz2 ext2 jffs2"
13:59.38hrwtoo many people expect tmp/rootfs to be real FS
13:59.49hrwmckoan: so check in tar.bz2 then
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14:01.31florianhrw: I don't get the point here... so we could have changed it in this way - now people will complain that rootfs is empty
14:02.04florianhaving the last created rootfs in this directory was very useful for soem fast checks
14:02.09hrwflorian: they can check that commit to discover that there is variable for it
14:03.07florianhrw: this won't stop people from thinking rootfs is empty
14:03.20hrwheh.. I love situations when 'ssh remote.machine' hangs after login
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14:03.47florianapart from the fact that it is likely that documetation still refers to rootfs as the directory with the latest filesystem
14:03.56hrwflorian: if I will commit patch which will move TMP/rootfs to WORKDIR/rootfs (where it should be from start imho) will they complain too?
14:04.04mckoanI woild prefer the rootfs fast check way +1 from me
14:04.27hrwmckoan: then 'git log' rootfs change and read commit message
14:04.39hrwand for future: read OE ML more often guys
14:05.10mckoananyway the modification I did aren't in the final image yet :-(
14:05.33mckoanrecipes/xserver-kdrive-common/xserver-kdrive-common/Xserver is ignored
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14:05.43florianhrw: yes that would be a good idea - way more sane than the solution before. but we need to make sure that we change documentation too...
14:06.22hrwmckoan: you do that on your quad?
14:06.31mckoanhrw: yes
14:06.54hrwwhich dir?
14:07.15mckoan/home/koan/devel/openembedded/recipes/xserver-kdrive-common/xserver-kdrive-common/Xserver
14:07.47hrwmckoan: and which build tree?
14:08.03mckoanbuild tree?
14:08.28hrwwhere you do image build
14:08.56hrwok, found
14:09.15mckoan/home/koan/devel/build/kaeilos/tmp/deploy/glibc/images/ronetix-pm9263
14:09.35mckoanlook into x directory which is the bz2 upacked
14:10.13hrwmckoan: this image uses xserver-common not xserver-kdrive-common
14:10.52hrwand yes, this situation suxx (2 packages doing same)
14:17.31mckoanhrw: how you deduce it from?
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14:30.41mckoanhrw|gone: very useful file, thx
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14:48.05mario-goulartGnutoo: have you noticed that openwrt's /lib doesn't have libpthread.so.0?
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14:48.20Gnutoomario-goulart, no I didn't notice
14:48.42Gnutoomario-goulart, but look at openwrt result with file or readelf...
14:48.50mario-goulartGnutoo: I _think_ I'm using the same config for OE's uClibc.  Now I'm not sure.
14:48.51Gnutoomario-goulart, you can't see the sections
14:51.47mario-goulartGnutoo: I'm cat'ing openwrt's common and mips files (from trunk/toolchain/uClibc/config-0.9.30.1) into OE's uClibc.machine.  I suppose OE is using this config file, but the end result is quite different.
14:52.11Gnutoomario-goulart, I already played with uclibc's config
14:52.27Gnutoomario-goulart, basically it's composed of 2 parts
14:52.42Gnutoomario-goulart, I don't remember well but maybe it's distro and machine config
14:52.50mario-goulartGnutoo: yeah
14:53.01Gnutooand they are assembled together to do the config that will be used
14:53.23mario-goulartGnutoo: ahm ok.  That's what I'm doing manually.
14:53.33Gnutoook
14:53.58Gnutoowhat do you mean by manually?
14:55.07mario-goulartGnutoo: I join openwrt's common and mips file (the config files for uclibc) into uClibc.machine (for OE).
14:55.31mario-goulartGnutoo: so OE uses uClibc.machine which is openwrt's common and mips concatenated.
14:55.56mario-goulartGnutoo: OE's uClibc.distro is empty
14:56.28mario-goulartGnutoo: but it's weird that openwrt's /lib doesn't have libpthread, since:
14:56.42mario-goulart$ grep THREAD common mips
14:56.43mario-goulartcommon:# HAS_NO_THREADS is not set
14:56.43mario-goulartcommon:LINUXTHREADS_OLD=y
14:56.43mario-goulartcommon:# PTHREADS_DEBUG_SUPPORT is not set
14:56.45mario-goulartcommon:UCLIBC_HAS_THREADS=y
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14:58.20mario-goulartGnutoo: and OE's /lib does have libpthread.  OE is supposed to be using the same configuration as openwrt.
14:58.48mario-goulartGnutoo: ... unless some mangling is in effect (uclibc.inc does some).
14:59.18Gnutooyes unless it sed the config
14:59.45Gnutoolike for CONFIG_CMDLINE in the kenrel recipes
15:00.04mario-goulartGnutoo: just checked the merged.config file under OE's workdir for uClibc and it's the expected one (with threads)
15:00.15Gnutoook
15:00.54mario-goulartGnutoo: so probably openwrt does some mangling.
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15:01.22mario-goulartGnutoo: I'm going out for lunch.  See you later.
15:01.31Gnutoook bye see you later
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15:02.38pb_g'day kergoth
15:02.53kergothhey pb_
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15:15.09sasaI am having problems with OE and bitbake building images for the beagleboard...
15:15.48sasaI don't really know what I am doing but bitbake seems to be choking on building perl for x86_64 and I don't
15:16.06sasaunderstand why it is trying to build x86 packages...
15:17.05sasabitbake says: TARGET_ARCH       = "arm", TARGET_OS         = "linux-gnueabi" and then throws this error:
15:17.18sasaERROR: Build of /home/matt/beagle/OE/openembedded/recipes/perl/perl-native_5.8.8.bb do_populate_staging failed
15:17.52sasaNOTE: Task failed: /home/matt/beagle/OE/angstrom-dev/work/x86_64-linux/perl-native-5.8.8-r13/temp/log.do_stage
15:18.18sasabut I don't know why it is trying to build the x86_64 versions - any suggestions?
15:18.21kergothsasa: it's a -native build.  there are lots of -native recipes that are built because they're needed by the crosscompiles.
15:19.26sasakergoth: so you are saying bitbake is building perl on the x86 host so it can go onto to use this to build packages for the bb?
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15:20.55sasaI have (a newer version) of perl install on the x86 box, I'm not sure I understand what is going on...
15:21.08kergothit's likely building perl on x86 because it needs that exact version in order to build perl for your target, sasa.  you can use bitbake -g to get a graphviz graph of the dependencies, so you can see what's depending on it
15:21.26kergoththis isn't that hard to understand, how many times do i have to explain it?
15:21.54kergothwe can't rely on every machine having these things, lots of recipes have very specific build system dependencies
15:22.06kergothif you think you have the version it needs, you can use ASSUME_PROVIDED to declare that your system already provides that functionality
15:22.23kergothbut you have to be careful there, some things, like autoconf-native, are patched, and we require the patched version
15:22.51kergothASSUME_PROVIDED += "somerecipe-native" would be the syntax, if you want to try to use it, but generally speaking you're on your own when using it, won't get support if it breaks something :)
15:24.45sasaOk - I understand this point but it won't build perl so I am slightly stuffed at this point...
15:25.30XorAso analyse the error
15:26.16kergothright, you'd get that same failure building that version of perl outside of OpenEmbedded, the failure is just a native perl build failure.
15:27.44sasaYep - I have been trying to fix this now for some time - where does the  ASSUME_PROVIDED += "somerecipe-native" thing go (local.conf)?
15:28.23sasaand somerecipie is a pointer to the local perl presumably (syntax?)?
15:28.29kergoth"pointer"?
15:28.47kergothASSUME_PROVIDED += "perl-native"
15:28.49kergothgosh, thats was difficult
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15:29.20sasaThanks for the sarcasm it really helps a lot
15:29.41kergothanytime
15:29.53kergothif you don't know what a recipe is, or what its name is, you haven't read the manual
15:30.04kergothso you should expect things like sarcasm when that's the case
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15:41.08hrw~curse toshiba l30 laptop
15:41.09ibotMay you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, toshiba l30 laptop !
15:41.11kergothhey hrw
15:43.28hrw~curse notebook vendors for crappy audio used
15:43.29ibotMay you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, notebook vendors for crappy audio used !
15:44.15hrwsnd-hda-intel is full of quirks and anyway it does not play on l30 here
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15:49.24CIA-103Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r0c88cc6cb7 10openembedded.git/ (3 files in 2 dirs): lirc: update to 0.8.5
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15:49.34CIA-1myththv: bump SRCREV
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16:09.56tharveyI've got a recipe for an out-of-tree kernel module that I'm trying to build against 2.6.29 (previously I was at 2.6.26) - its looking like the staging tree is not correct for the 2.6.29 kernel - does this sound like a familiar issue?
16:11.47hrwthings are changing in kernel land
16:12.58tharveyin a devshell I can build the module using kernel path of the kernel workdir, but when I point to the staging dir there are massive kernel header issues
16:14.16kergotharen't the headers in staging the sanitized headers for userland to make use of, not kernel code?
16:14.24kergothor am i remembering wrong?
16:14.53tharveynot sure... I've always build this out-of-tree module using staging... its a customized madwifi module
16:14.59broonieI'd expect so, yes - you should be building against an actual kernel tree.
16:15.06tharveyor I should say I've always built it against 2.6.26 that way
16:15.26broonieThere's work going on to sanities the glibc copies of the headers which is likely what you're seeing.
16:16.59tharveythe current madwifi recipes in oe do the same as I though - KERNELPATH=${STAGING_KERNEL_DER} - is it possible that nobody is building oe's madwifi for 2.6.29+?
16:18.02tharveybroonie, are you suggesting that I point the kernel path to the kernel workdir then and 'not' staging?  or is there 2 staging dirs:  one for userland and another for kernel modules?   Not sure what OE var to use for kernel's workdir
16:18.41broonieThere's probably two staging dirs.
16:20.10tharveyI see only 1 machine specific kernel headers dir in staging though... would make sense for there to be two
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16:23.59tharveyI see several out-of-tree kernel module recipes using KERNDIR=${STAGING_KERNEL_DIR}
16:24.48tharveyhttp://bec-systems.com/oe/html/directories_staging.html - shows there is only one kernel staging dir so if there does need to be a split for userspace/kernel it hasn't been done yet
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16:36.08Gnutoomario-goulart, unfortunately I've forgetten to add -ggdb3 to my build
16:36.32Gnutoomario-goulart, but it sefault at the last line here: http://pastebin.com/m7fbbad85
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16:40.27kergoththarvey: ah, right, STAGING_KERNEL_DIR is the actual kernel headers, the sanitized ones would be in the normal staigng include & lib dirs, or the cross dirs
16:40.32Gnutoomario-goulart, t9 is 2aab0394
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17:10.33mario-goulartGnutoo: I don't know much about mips assembly.  Is t9 a register?
17:10.51Gnutooyes
17:10.57Gnutootemporary register
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17:11.27mario-goulartGnutoo: ah, ok.  You mean there's a jump to an invalid location?
17:11.47Gnutooyes
17:12.23mario-goulartGnutoo: hmmm.  Any idea about who's generating this invalid code?
17:12.30Gnutoono
17:12.34GnutooI've no idea
17:12.51sasaMy woes using bitbake look like they result from this bug: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4396...
17:13.56mario-goulartGnutoo: anyway, you've spot a good track.  Now we have something from where we can start looking for a solution.
17:13.58sasathe patch failed to help but Oliver Eichler's fix seems to work, we'll see once the build completes.
17:14.15Gnutoook
17:14.37mario-goulartGnutoo: you are using OE's rootfs, right?
17:15.17Gnutoomario-goulart, openwrt's rootfs->chroot->static-gdb->hello-world
17:16.06mario-goulartGnutoo: hmmm.
17:16.49mario-goulartGnutoo: can't you run any binary under openwrt system (rootfs)?
17:17.16mario-goulartGnutoo: here things work on openwrt.  I just can't make them work on OE.
17:17.30Gnutoomario-goulart, openwrt+hello world runs fine
17:17.56Gnutoomario-goulart, oe+any shared lib => segfault
17:18.22mario-goulartGnutoo: ah, ok.  Same here.
17:18.22Gnutoomario-goulart, openwrt->chroot->hello-world-dynamic => segafault
17:18.25Gnutooyes
17:18.33GnutooI should have added -ggdb3
17:19.51mario-goulartGnutoo: maybe -O0 too.
17:21.48Gnutoomario-goulart, ok
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18:14.28CIA-1lirc: update to 0.8.5
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19:24.32tharveykergoth, yes, KERNEL_STAGING_DIR is definately where out-of-tree modules should point to for kernel headers - yet I find that madwifi builds only for 2.6.29 if I point to KERNEL_SOURCE instead... still not clear why
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19:49.06slapin_nbHi, all! If I have big NAND (2GB), big jffs2 image (256MB), and a small (64MB) amount of RAM. Is there some way to flash this image to NAND using u-boot on such a system?
19:50.13kergoththat's not really on topic, this channel is about the use of openembedded and bitbake, but then, I'm not sure of a better channel to ask it in, so i guess that works :)
19:50.24kergothcould try #edev
19:51.01slapin_nbit is actually related to openembedded-generated image :)
19:52.08akheronslapin_nb: I suppose you could split the image to chunks of <64MB and flash a chunk at a time
19:52.39kergoththat doesn't make it on topic.  the question would be the same regardless of what image you were using :)
19:52.51kergothnot that it matters, really, just noting it
19:52.59slapin_nbakheron, is there some automated tools to script that?
19:53.33slapin_nbis really sorry for polluting channel with off-topic questions
19:53.58kergothwell it's not like you're interrupting anything, it's dead in here :)
19:54.02akheronslapin_nb: I have no idea, I've never used nand
19:54.18akheronor a system with less ram than non-volatile storage
19:54.36akheronumm, such an embedded system I mean
19:54.59akheronthe laptop I'm using right now definitely has less ram than hard disk space :F
19:55.34slapin_nbakheron, thanks! I think I need to find good splitting tool and write script for u-boot
19:56.02akherondd and a tiny shell script should be okay for splitting
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21:06.21bluelightninganyone got any ideas on fixing the "multiple versions of bluez building" issue?
21:06.47bluelightningI see pb_ and Laibsch were investigating a couple of weeks ago
21:07.35Laibschbluelightning: I kind of gave up
21:07.45LaibschI don't really want bluetooth anyway
21:07.45bluelightningLaibsch: why's that?
21:07.51bluelightningoh... ok
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21:07.56Laibschso, that is the route I've taken for minimal
21:08.19Laibschmake it not depend on the bluetooth stuff and let somebody who wants bluetooth worry about fixing the mess ;-)
21:08.28Laibschwhat distro are you building for?
21:08.38bluelightningLaibsch: angstrom, as usual
21:08.45Laibschyou can always apply the force-defaults patch locally
21:08.59Laibschthat will at least give you an image
21:09.00bluelightningforce-defaults patch?
21:09.13LaibschI RFC'd it a couple of weeks ago
21:09.45Laibschit was rejected on the grounds that rather than cosmetics, the underlying problem should be fixed
21:09.54Laibschagrees with that assessment
21:10.09LaibschBut I don't feel like fixing bluez in OE
21:13.11bluelightningseems that few others have a handle on the issue either
21:13.29bluelightningor indeed the inclination to bash on it until it is fixed (myself included)
21:13.36TartarusIsn't it a matter of setting up virtuals or similar for bluetooth?
21:13.42Tartarusor just dropping bt3.x ?
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21:14.08bluelightninghi ant__
21:14.15bluelightningant__: we are discussing bt issue atm
21:14.40ant__ah.. the opkg-cl leaved the king naked...
21:14.57bluelightningant__: well, that's the end result yes
21:15.22ant__can we suggest a quick fix to the poor guy in the ML?
21:16.03bluelightningant__: yes I think that would be a good start...
21:16.30ant__bluelightning: I think I know how to 'repair'..
21:16.44bluelightningant__: what's your suggestion?
21:17.02ant__all come since bluez4 introduction
21:17.11ant__we can override for opie
21:17.23ant__well, opie is not a distro, I know
21:18.18ant__for opie, I'd go back to bluez3 and have a working opie, then move to bluez4. Objections?
21:19.03Gnutoohi, is it true that the palm pre uses directfb?
21:19.03bluelightningant__: none from me, assuming that no other os-level components now depend on bluez4 - I haven't checked
21:19.20Gnutoobecause http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directfb says it's LGPL
21:19.52ant__bluelightning: I personally have only experience with bluez3 on real device (zaurus + cf bt)
21:19.57Gnutooand http://opensource.palm.com/packages.html doesn't list directfb
21:20.03Gnutooin both version
21:20.59bluelightningant__: I am just trying a build now with PREFERRED_VERSION_bluez-{utils|libs}=3.36 added to preferred-opie-versions-1.2.4.inc
21:21.18ant__yea, something like this
21:21.39ant__pb objected opie is not a distro and should just inherit
21:21.54ant__but poor opie is soo old...
21:22.15ant__could be considered a distro its alone
21:22.17bluelightningI don't even know if it might just work straight away with bluez4
21:22.25ant__he
21:22.35bluelightningbut the annoying thing is unless I'm mistaken, no opie package asks for bluez3 explicitly
21:22.46bluelightningso I don't know why it thinks it needs it :/
21:23.00ant__because distro(angstrom) sets it
21:23.04ant__iirc
21:23.17bluelightningdoesn't it set preferred versions to 4.x?
21:24.00ant__ah, sorry, you asked for 4
21:24.07ant__err  for bluez3
21:24.32ant__it must be here...
21:24.33ant__./distro/include/preferred-om-2008-versions.inc:PREFERRED_VERSION_python-pybluez ?= "0.13"
21:24.33ant__./distro/include/preferred-opie-versions.inc:PREFERRED_VERSION_opie-bluepin ?= "${OPIE_VERSION}"
21:24.33ant__./distro/include/preferred-opie-versions.inc:PREFERRED_VERSION_opie-bluetoothapplet ?= "${OPIE_VERSION}"
21:24.33ant__./distro/include/preferred-opie-versions.inc:PREFERRED_VERSION_opie-bluetoothmanager ?= "${OPIE_VERSION}"
21:24.33ant__./distro/include/preferred-opie-versions.inc:PREFERRED_VERSION_opie-securityplugin-blueping = "${OPIE_VERSION}"
21:25.32Laibschthe reason is that bluez4 does not provide everything that is needed
21:25.42Laibschlook into bluez-cups-backend for example
21:25.51LaibschI spent quite some time looking into this
21:26.02bluelightningLaibsch: there must be others it doesn't provide, because I don't need bluez-cups-backend
21:26.05Laibschremoving bb files and looking what broke ;-)
21:26.13LaibschIn the end, I just gave up ;-)
21:26.45bluelightningis there a way for bitbake to output dependency chains or something like that?
21:26.45Laibschbluelightning: remove the bb files, it's the only sane way to find out what depends on it
21:26.56Laibschbitbake -g is supposed to do that
21:27.03LaibschBut I don't think it is complete
21:27.10LaibschIt was not sufficient for my analysis
21:27.12ant__bluelightning: also try with -DDD or -vv
21:27.13bluelightningargh
21:27.25Laibschor just remove the file
21:27.27Laibsch;-)
21:27.33LaibschEasiest and certain to work
21:27.37Laibschtrust me
21:29.35bluelightningwell first I'll just make sure this hack works so I can answer the ml posting
21:29.52bluelightningdamn it I need a faster machine :/
21:32.32Laibschangstrom ml?
21:32.43ant__yes
21:34.16ant__hm ...trying  PREFERRED_PROVIDER_bluez-libs            = "bluez3"  and PREFERRED_PROVIDER_bluez-utils           = "bluez3"     in preferred-opie-versions-1.2.4.inc
21:36.18ant__seems have done the job...
21:36.24ant__now the second one...
21:36.24ant__NOTE: multiple providers are available for opkg (opkg, opkg-nogpg, opkg-nogpg-nocurl);
21:36.25ant__NOTE: consider defining PREFERRED_PROVIDER_opkg
21:37.43ant__bluelightning: I think it's a PROVIDER problem, not just VERSION
21:38.57bluelightningwhy the heck doesn't angstrom already define that?
21:39.22Gnutoommm CONFIG_MIPS_O32_ABI=y # CONFIG_MIPS_N32_ABI is not set
21:39.37bluelightningGnutoo: nice...
21:39.46Gnutoobluelightning, ?
21:40.01Gnutoobluelightning, are you involved in uclibc mips problems too?
21:40.03bluelightningGnutoo: manually hacked kernel config
21:40.12Gnutoobluelightning, no uclibc config
21:40.21bluelightningGnutoo: no, just commenting randomly, sorry :)
21:40.27Gnutoobluelightning, ah ok
21:40.34Gnutoobluelightning, :)
21:42.21Laibschangstrom generally wants to move to bluez4, that is why those things are not defined as above
21:42.48ant__bluelightning: ./rootfs_ipk.bbclass:IPKG_VARIANT ?= "opkg"
21:42.59Laibschtrying to get bluez4 working as expected at compile time is a more worthwhile task than trying to coerce the build into bluez3
21:43.14ant__that's the second step
21:43.21ant__noe it's broken and we repair
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21:43.38Laibschby breaking other things
21:43.40bluelightningLaibsch: I don't disagree, I was just after a quick temporary fix
21:43.47Laibschunderstood
21:44.03Laibschthe quick temporary fix is the force-defaults patch I mentioned
21:44.08LaibschMUCH quicker, too
21:44.28Laibschanything else is fine locally, but not for being committed
21:44.54ant__Laibsch: bluez4 come *years* after opie
21:44.54Laibschdefining bluez preferences in opie is NOT ok
21:45.05Laibschthat has no relevance here
21:45.16Laibscha lot of the things in building for OE today are more recent
21:45.19ant__have you reports 'it works' ?
21:45.30ant__I have for bluez3
21:45.37Laibschant?
21:45.48Laibschthe force-default patch works fine
21:45.57ant__nobody has tested opie+bluez4
21:46.05ant__99% won't work
21:46.07Laibschand the BTS has the information on what should be done to properly fix bluez
21:46.09ant__oob
21:46.25Laibschwe are talking compile-time problems now
21:46.42ant__iirc you were discussing with pb about utils/libs
21:46.47Laibschif opie and bluez4 don't get along the proper thing is to RCONFLICT
21:46.47ant__split
21:46.53Laibschnot the stuff you are doing now
21:47.10Laibschyes, that is a very important thing in fixing this
21:47.21Laibschor make bluez4 provide -utils and -libs
21:47.23ant__I think opie should be 'crystallized' with some sane working revisions
21:47.28ant__and abandoned ... :)
21:47.48ant__there is no development behind...
21:47.56bluelightningant__: ahem....
21:47.59ant__just bluelightning fixing as he can
21:48.02ant__thx btw ;)
21:48.08ant__:DD
21:48.14Laibschwell, many projects are a one-man show
21:48.25bluelightningwell, I'm actually doing some real dev work atm... ok, so it's completing previous designs, but it's still real development
21:48.30Laibschno reason to "improperly fix" stuff
21:48.33bluelightning(on opie I mean)
21:48.36ant__nice to hear that
21:48.38Laibschcool
21:49.15bluelightningbut I haven't had time to add support for newer bluez interfaces (which require dbus)
21:49.32ant__yea, the hal + dbus story....
21:50.00bluelightningit might not be hard, I don't know; I just haven't had time to properly investigate it
21:50.17ant__I purposedly refuse to learn python...
21:50.38bluelightningwell, I would be using dbus C++ bindings here
21:51.04ant__iirc there is a lot of work on that from Openmoko people
21:51.31ant__don't know whether they merged all..or not
21:51.59Laibschopenmoko latest work is unmerged but scheduled to merge
21:52.09ant__ok, thx
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22:05.55ant__bluelightning: about zaurusd, are you developer?
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22:06.13ant__bluelightning: about zaurusd, are you developer?
22:06.36bluelightningargh @ ISP, must complain about bad connection
22:07.02bluelightningant__: not really, I submitted a patch for tskeys a while back but that's it
22:07.20bluelightningI don't think it gets much maintenance these days
22:08.00bluelightningoh, and I did bring it up to the latest svn rev in OE recently as well
22:08.46ant__I see ... latest svn....some files are missing newline...git patches are horrible...
22:09.10ant__and strangely I had to 'revert' one patch, just for borzoi...
22:09.23ant__because was applied upstream (only for borzoi)
22:09.59ant__there were some commits last weeks
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22:10.36bluelightning_*cough*
22:10.59bluelightning_ant__: did you need something fixed on zaurusd?
22:11.19ant__well, there are patches pending
22:11.24ant__please give a look
22:11.38bluelightning_you mean those remaining in OE?
22:11.45ant__yes
22:11.49bluelightning_hmm
22:12.08ant__I suppoose zaurusd is only built in OE
22:12.14bluelightning_I would pester RP about that, but I'm not sure he has any time to review zaurusd patches
22:12.44ant__anyway, look at the  use-ts-symlink-ins~of-hardcoding.diff│
22:13.21ant__at least we should clear the issues like  \ No newline at end of file
22:13.39ant__:D
22:15.36ant__bluelightning: oh..sorry
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22:15.57ant__I see now ..it's in  avoid-rotated-server.patch  
22:17.20ant__hm..why only for borzoi ^^^
22:17.51ant__I'd revert here and susbt with touchscreen0 in the a.m. use-ts... patch
22:20.04cdbot2* * OE Bug 5278 has been created by arne(AT)arne-koehn.de
22:20.06cdbot2* * wrong SRC_URI for ttf-sazanami
22:20.08cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5278
22:20.23bluelightning_ant__: yes, that one ought to go upstream
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22:34.42CIA-103Andrea Adami <andrea.adami@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r7354ce1960 10openembedded.git/recipes/zaurusd/files/ (2 files):
22:34.42CIA-1zaurusd: rework patches
22:34.42CIA-1- revert 8c942c2a74598c84dbe9646bbd6bbde6525ca53f
22:34.42CIA-1- minimal fix to 35b530346188557e7b81bcb69ccea27f60766177
22:34.42CIA-1- s/event1/touchscreen0/ is done in a separate patch
22:35.12ant__bluelightning: done, now please the newlines :P
22:36.01bluelightningant__: diff insisted on putting those in :/
22:36.17bluelightningeven though there was no difference at that place in the file, IIRC
22:36.42ant__the missing newlines are in the svn :/
22:36.58bluelightningah right
22:43.35ant__hm..do you remember that sh: rm not found
22:43.52ant__see e.g. "opie-image.do_rm_work_all" -> "opkg.do_rm_work"
22:44.14ant__"opie-image.do_rm_work_all" -> "opkg-native.do_rm_work"
22:44.23ant__...
22:48.06bluelightningant__: yes I think I've seen that before
22:48.45ant__I suspect opkg situation is not optimal....
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