| 00:00.45 | Tartarus | digs harder |
| 00:05.15 | Tartarus | kicks git |
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| 00:07.49 | Tartarus | Bah, is there mtn or BK history in a git tree somewhere? |
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| 01:27.04 | CIA-1 | 03Tom Rini <trini@embeddedalley.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rd1767a1edb 10openembedded.git/recipes/gmp/ (4 files in 2 dirs): gmp: Fix a problem when ${exec_prefix} != ${includedir}, switch to INC_PR |
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| 05:10.16 | khem | Tartarus: libunwind-exceptions did not work on arm |
| 05:10.30 | khem | Tartarus: and they are not in initial because it does not matter there |
| 05:19.10 | khem | moreover I think we do not ship libunwind |
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| 06:27.32 | tsjsieb | Goodmorning |
| 06:28.47 | tsjsieb | I currently have to use about 2 or 3 times the space on my harddisk for OpenEmbedded as about 1 or 2 months ago, is it something I missed that causes this? |
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| 08:52.29 | BlindMan | morning folks |
| 09:00.06 | XorA | yo BlindMan |
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| 09:09.25 | methril|work | morning |
| 09:10.04 | pb_ | hi blindman |
| 09:10.14 | florian | good morning |
| 09:10.18 | pb_ | florian: good morning |
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| 09:58.53 | Crofton|work | gm |
| 10:03.26 | XorA | hey Crofton|work |
| 10:05.21 | florian | hi Crofton|work |
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| 10:18.31 | Viltapi | how can I specify that bitbake should use toolchain X for an image except that package N should use toolchain Y? |
| 10:18.41 | RP | morning all |
| 10:18.49 | XorA | hey RP |
| 10:18.50 | Viltapi | hello |
| 10:19.00 | Crofton|work | RP, greetings |
| 10:19.37 | Viltapi | I tried following this guide http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:CesarB/Compiling_for_EABI as I have exactly the same problem but that seems to be a bit old |
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| 10:26.39 | mcrlp | hello, has anybody experienced problems enabling OMAP MULTIPLEXING in linux kernel? |
| 10:26.57 | mcrlp | If I enable it I got a kernel panic (cannot mount rootfs)? |
| 10:34.55 | XorA | Viltapi: OE supports EABI all the way through for most devices |
| 10:43.52 | Viltapi | XorA: I need to build U-boot 1.3.4 and that causes and EABI version error "arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-ld: ERROR: Source object .../build/tmp/cross/arm/lib/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/4.3.3/libgcc.a(_udivdi3.o) has EABI version 4, but target u-boot has EABI version 0" |
| 10:44.39 | XorA | Viltapi: 1.3.4? thats quiet ancient isnt it? |
| 10:45.24 | Viltapi | XorA: hehe, very probably |
| 10:46.00 | Viltapi | but i'm trying to build for EA3131 and it's been supplied with an u-boot patch for version 1.3.4 |
| 10:46.10 | Viltapi | http://www.embeddedartists.com/products/kits/lpc3131_kit.php |
| 10:48.39 | XorA | Viltapi: I think the OE u-boot eabi patches were pretty generic, try applying them |
| 10:49.19 | Viltapi | XorA: i tried two of them but didn't get them to work |
| 10:50.54 | Viltapi | to me, the two (fix-arm920t-eabi.patch and uboot-eabi-fix-HACK.patch) seemed very machine-specific |
| 10:51.38 | CIA-1 | 03ghost <andreas.monzner@multimedia-labs.de> 07org.openembedded.dreambox * rc430ba2598 10openembedded.git/packages/dreambox/dreambox-dvb-modules.bb: |
| 10:51.38 | CIA-1 | dreambox-dvb-modules.bb: update dm800 and dm8000 drivers |
| 10:51.38 | CIA-1 | dm8000 changes: |
| 10:51.38 | CIA-1 | - fixed no more working ts playback after MPEG4 Part2 (Divx) playback |
| 10:51.38 | CIA-1 | - CI fix for Dre Crypt Module |
| 10:51.40 | CIA-1 | dm800 and dm8000 changes: |
| 10:51.44 | CIA-1 | - /proc/stb/audio/audio_delay_pcm/bitstream is now working in both directions.. negative offset now delays video |
| 10:51.46 | CIA-1 | 03ghost <andreas.monzner@multimedia-labs.de> 07org.openembedded.dreambox * r2173d9603d 10openembedded.git/packages/gstreamer/gst-plugin-dvbmediasink.bb: gst-plugin-dvbmediasink.bb: push srcdate |
| 10:51.49 | CIA-1 | 03Felix Domke <tmbinc@2mac.waldobjekt.org> 07org.openembedded.dreambox * ra640ebe624 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dreambox' of git://git.opendreambox.org/git/ghost/opendreambox-1.5 into org.openembedded.dreambox |
| 10:52.22 | XorA | Viltapi: ah crap your right, I forgot how it was organised |
| 10:53.49 | Viltapi | i managed to build u-boot manually but when using OE, I would need a specific toolchain for it, or avoid the EABI version problem |
| 10:54.11 | XorA | Viltapi: can the equivalent patches be ported to your arch? |
| 10:54.31 | XorA | Viltapi: or does mainsteam u-boot now support your board? thats the two directions I would go in |
| 10:54.40 | XorA | Viltapi: from experience |
| 10:55.33 | Viltapi | i doubt the mainstream u-boot as that board is very new and the patch is even newer |
| 10:55.45 | Viltapi | why it has been made for 1.3.4...no idea |
| 10:56.13 | Viltapi | but i may have to consider porting the patches/hacks |
| 10:57.09 | XorA | Viltapi: commercial stuff gets stuck in a timewarp normally, due to the work being started years before it ends |
| 10:57.56 | Viltapi | XorA: that's true, but I understood that the patch was 3rd party |
| 10:58.26 | Viltapi | at least the website says "resources contributed by customers and users" |
| 10:58.51 | Viltapi | but that doesn't stop the customers from being commercial as well |
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| 10:59.53 | hrw | morning |
| 11:00.02 | Viltapi | hello |
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| 11:47.34 | mckoan | good afternoon |
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| 12:00.38 | mckoan | would be possible to push the following patches please ? |
| 12:00.41 | mckoan | http://patchwork.openembedded.org/patch/808/ |
| 12:00.45 | mckoan | http://patchwork.openembedded.org/patch/809/ |
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| 12:06.14 | hrw | sure |
| 12:06.54 | mckoan | hi hrw |
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| 12:07.58 | mckoan | hrw: what is the passage of being allowed to OE write access? is it enough to ask to ML? |
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| 12:08.51 | CIA-1 | 03Marco Cavallini <koansoftware@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r246e641c1a 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 12:08.51 | CIA-1 | New conf/distro/kaeilos.conf with customized include files |
| 12:08.51 | CIA-1 | Signed-off-by: Marco Cavallini <m.cavallini@koansoftware.com> |
| 12:09.01 | CIA-1 | 03Marco Cavallini <koansoftware@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * ref1048dc46 10openembedded.git/recipes/psplash/files/ronetix-pm9263/psplash-default: |
| 12:09.01 | CIA-1 | Added recipes/psplash/files/ronetix-pm9263/psplash-default |
| 12:09.01 | CIA-1 | Signed-off-by: Marco Cavallini <m.cavallini@koansoftware.com> |
| 12:09.22 | hrw | mckoan: it is 'show your patches, we will grant r/w if they ok' or someone suggests or person asks |
| 12:09.31 | hrw | mckoan: ask - I will agree |
| 12:11.23 | mckoan | hrw: how do I 'show' my patches ? |
| 12:11.36 | Crofton|work | mckoan, you have been doing that alrady :) |
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| 12:15.59 | hrw | mckoan: you are listed as stable/2009 maintainer - do you plan to give some acks for [STABLE] patches? |
| 12:16.00 | mckoan | Crofton|work: ok ;-) |
| 12:16.50 | mckoan | hrw: I would be pleased to do that, we should discuss later about how doing that |
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| 12:17.38 | mckoan|meeting | -> bb in 2hrs |
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| 12:28.11 | thesing | hi all |
| 12:30.21 | hrw | hi Thomas |
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| 12:40.20 | chouimat | morning |
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| 12:52.40 | woglinde | hi |
| 12:52.47 | florian | hi woglinde |
| 12:52.53 | woglinde | hi florian |
| 12:53.05 | woglinde | hm oh vlc 1.0 is out |
| 12:53.17 | hrw | hi henning, chouimat |
| 12:53.45 | woglinde | hi hrw |
| 12:54.38 | hrw | florian: I need to check my phone - should have some LT photos |
| 12:55.01 | florian | hrw: oh... that would be good |
| 12:55.27 | woglinde | hm plam pre will be released in october in germany |
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| 12:56.50 | hrw | woglinde: how much â¬â¬â¬? |
| 12:56.52 | hrw | re Crofton|work |
| 12:57.48 | Crofton | hrw, gm |
| 12:57.52 | Crofton | got back last night |
| 12:58.20 | woglinde | hrw hm only with a plan from o2 |
| 12:58.20 | hrw | florian: http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/download/lt/ |
| 12:58.50 | florian | woglinde: likely to be expensive at least... |
| 12:58.57 | hrw | florian: crappy quality (phone taken) |
| 12:59.08 | woglinde | hm price without plan is not setteld |
| 12:59.38 | florian | hrw: i'll take a look - many thanks |
| 13:00.48 | florian | hrw: are these the slides from the emlix talk? |
| 13:02.58 | hrw | yes |
| 13:04.30 | florian | heh.... do i read "> 100 packages?" |
| 13:04.42 | CIA-1 | 03Robert Schuster <robertschuster@fsfe.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r0784d75461 10openembedded.git/recipes/antlr/antlr-native_2.7.7.bb: antlr-native 2.7.7: Use proper variable. |
| 13:04.43 | CIA-1 | 03Robert Schuster <robertschuster@fsfe.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r9e01be7741 10openembedded.git/recipes/classpath/ (5 files): classpath: Depend on antlr-native, increased resp. PRs. |
| 13:04.55 | hrw | yes |
| 13:05.14 | hrw | florian: and recently they added X11 |
| 13:05.16 | hrw | ;D |
| 13:05.27 | florian | is impressed ;) |
| 13:07.06 | woglinde | he you photograph my son |
| 13:07.32 | woglinde | I will sue you *g* |
| 13:11.33 | florian | today is the day of bad jokes right? ;) |
| 13:12.46 | florian | hrw: the top sales argument seems to be the ability to reproduce the same results for a long time. i guess ai'll write a short guide how to do this with oe :-) |
| 13:13.46 | hrw | ;) |
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| 13:15.20 | woglinde | florian the coffee machine was form buero2.0 |
| 13:15.24 | woglinde | not from tarent :) |
| 13:15.54 | florian | woglinde: sure? |
| 13:16.47 | woglinde | florian jepp |
| 13:16.56 | woglinde | I am 100% sure |
| 13:17.07 | BlindMan | florian: hrm, have you been part of the e2factory talk or why do you say that? |
| 13:18.42 | woglinde | hm zecke is working on moc |
| 13:19.02 | florian | BlindMan: no i didn't manage to attend unluckily. |
| 13:19.45 | florian | BlindMan: I just took a look at the slides on the photos and the website. |
| 13:20.26 | woglinde | okay I have to leave |
| 13:20.30 | woglinde | bye all |
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| 13:35.13 | BlindMan | bye woglinde |
| 13:36.18 | florian | BlindMan: do you have more experience with e2factory? |
| 13:37.36 | mario-goulart | is curious about e2 too |
| 13:38.07 | BlindMan | florian: no, heard it for the first time |
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| 13:38.21 | BlindMan | looks nice, but quite a lot of work for beginning the project |
| 13:39.02 | BlindMan | the funny thing is, he said, more or less, "omg, we need the old compile chain, where is it?" and they use that as a solution |
| 13:39.14 | BlindMan | but on the other hand, pack it up and stuff it in an SCM works prolly as well ;) |
| 13:39.16 | BlindMan | for that point |
| 13:39.29 | BlindMan | but at least you are helped with doing exact rebuilds |
| 13:39.37 | BlindMan | which is nice and all |
| 13:39.55 | BlindMan | and prolly also something I would want to deploy here |
| 13:40.13 | BlindMan | (at work, which is acutally kind of a requirements nonetheless) |
| 13:40.23 | mario-goulart | BlindMan: what about the development of recipes? |
| 13:40.30 | BlindMan | mario-goulart: what do you mean? |
| 13:40.56 | mario-goulart | BlindMan: I heard e2 doesn't have many recipes. Is it hard to make new ones? |
| 13:41.44 | hrw | BlindMan: to solve 'exact rebuild on same tools as it was' problem is easy - you need to keep whole system which was used to build |
| 13:41.54 | BlindMan | mario-goulart: prolly not, but it looks likeyou still have to do much of the setup you want to have for your (embedded) project |
| 13:42.29 | BlindMan | hrw: yep, that was the major selling point according to the presenter |
| 13:42.38 | BlindMan | hrw: at least his narrative built on that |
| 13:43.19 | BlindMan | the benefit is prolly more in being able to backtrack specific configurations and being able to built from taht on |
| 13:43.19 | hrw | BlindMan: and then I asked few questions which nearly killed this advance |
| 13:43.53 | hrw | "how it differ from keeping that 8 years old system archived with copy of metadata/sources used to build'? |
| 13:43.57 | hrw | etc |
| 13:46.04 | mckoan|meeting | re |
| 13:46.09 | BlindMan | hrw: ah, you were that :) |
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| 13:46.35 | BlindMan | hrw: i asked smething like that a couple of days ago, but smoehow nobody answered that here ;) |
| 13:47.33 | BlindMan | hrw: but it's with oe and the recipies the same, pack everything up + toolchain you got and stuff it in an SCM or tag it or whatever and you are set, i would assume wrt. e2 |
| 13:47.45 | BlindMan | at least it's kind of achieving the same for that |
| 13:48.28 | hrw | not quite |
| 13:48.49 | hrw | rather pack OE metadata + sources + archive of operating system used for build |
| 13:48.59 | hrw | then use that OS in vbox/vmware etc |
| 13:49.05 | hrw | thats how I would solve that |
| 13:49.23 | BlindMan | hrw: yeah, something like that ... or the changeroot setup |
| 13:49.47 | hrw | I do not like chroot ideas |
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| 13:50.42 | BlindMan | how comes? |
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| 13:54.40 | hrw | I do not like chroot basically |
| 13:55.58 | Tartarus | but chroot is faster in the cases where you don't need to care about making sure you have the other distro kernel and daemons |
| 13:56.14 | Tartarus | and with bind mounts you've got all your data around anyhow |
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| 13:57.14 | hrw | sure |
| 13:58.24 | CIA-1 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07stable/2009 * r4796ca8d5b 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/angstrom.inc: |
| 13:58.24 | CIA-1 | angstrom: stop disabling binary localegen for >=armv6 per RFC on the ml |
| 13:58.24 | CIA-1 | Signed-off-by: Marcin Juszkiewicz <marcin@juszkiewicz.com.pl> |
| 13:58.24 | CIA-1 | Acked-by: Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> |
| 14:00.58 | Tartarus | So, is there BK or MTN history in some git repo somewhere? |
| 14:01.06 | Tartarus | Or something I can search on the web? |
| 14:01.49 | pb_ | Tartarus: I think the main git repo should have the history all the way back to bk, though it is a bit garbled in places. |
| 14:01.57 | pb_ | bkbits.net is still online, you can see the old tree through their web interface |
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| 14:02.21 | Tartarus | Er, der, yes, mtn is in git :) |
| 14:02.26 | Tartarus | I need bk stuff, heh |
| 14:02.34 | pb_ | I don't think the mtn archive is online anywhere but the mtn->git conversion should have kept it mostly intact. |
| 14:02.35 | Tartarus | trying to see where --disable-libunwind-exceptions came from |
| 14:03.29 | pb_ | try http://openembedded.bkbits.net:8080/openembedded/packages/gcc/?PAGE=dir as a starting point |
| 14:04.13 | Tartarus | k, thanks |
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| 14:18.11 | Tartarus | Hmm, if bk searches are to believed, it did come in post BK |
| 14:18.16 | Tartarus | So it should be in our git history right? |
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| 14:22.50 | hrw | should |
| 14:23.04 | hrw | but bk history in git is borked at places |
| 14:24.36 | cbrake_away | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:25.34 | cbrake | tries e2factory, but runs into several problems, and does not really understand the advantages over OE |
| 14:25.48 | cbrake | one thing about OE is it is fairly self contained |
| 14:26.54 | Tartarus | So, AFAICS, --disable-libunwind-exceptions just came in w/ 4.1.2, uncommented upon |
| 14:26.57 | mario-goulart | cbrake: isn't e2 self contained? What aditional tools do you need? |
| 14:26.58 | Tartarus | and got spread around |
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| 14:27.42 | cbrake | mario-goulart: it may be from the sense that things are done in a chroot |
| 14:27.47 | cbrake | mario-goulart: but where does the chroot come from? |
| 14:29.10 | Crofton | cbrake, I added an entry for melo.oe.org |
| 14:29.24 | Crofton | back from vacation |
| 14:29.26 | cbrake | Crofton: ok, thanks -- can you reply to Tom? |
| 14:29.33 | Crofton | will do |
| 14:30.13 | ant_work | Tartarus: [OT] |
| 14:30.19 | ant_work | any idea about cfgloopmanip.c:1480: internal compiler error: in get_loop_body, at cfgloop.c:830 |
| 14:30.41 | ant_work | that's Gentoo's gcc-4.3.2 |
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| 14:32.15 | ant_work | Google doesn't fully help..I'm already using -O2 |
| 14:32.52 | Tartarus | odd |
| 14:33.03 | ant_work | sigh.. I'll have to read the full gccint.pdf.... |
| 14:34.39 | pb_ | heh, I guess any option below about -O9997 is probably untested with gentoo. |
| 14:35.08 | Tartarus | just below -O11 ;) |
| 14:35.31 | ant_work | he..that's an old server here... CFLAGS="-march=pentium3 -pipe -O2" |
| 14:35.52 | ant_work | a glorious Supermicro DualPIII |
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| 14:45.35 | pb_ | mickeyl: good morning |
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| 14:47.17 | mickeyl | morning pb_ |
| 14:47.19 | mickeyl | hi folks |
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| 14:47.24 | chouimat | hi mickeyl |
| 14:47.28 | mickeyl | hey chouimat! |
| 14:47.33 | mickeyl | how are things for you? |
| 14:47.51 | chouimat | mickeyl: got laid off 2 weeks ago ... beside this I will say goof |
| 14:47.54 | chouimat | err good |
| 14:48.00 | mickeyl | ya, read about that here |
| 14:48.02 | mickeyl | anything new in sight? |
| 14:48.32 | chouimat | not yet ... pretty dead around here and I'm on vacations for another week or 2 |
| 14:48.51 | mickeyl | *nod* |
| 14:48.54 | mickeyl | this must be the year of the layoffs |
| 14:48.59 | mickeyl | so many folks |
| 14:49.00 | mickeyl | even in IT |
| 14:49.36 | chouimat | also got a nice stack of devices that I can play with them now that I have the time ... the sheevaplug and the openrd-client come to mind |
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| 14:51.00 | chouimat | mickeyl: and how are things for you? |
| 14:52.09 | mickeyl | can't complain. i'd love to do more paid work on linux (as opposed to iPhone which is paying my bills atm.), but that will come |
| 14:52.29 | mickeyl | the struggle for open hardware continues |
| 14:52.36 | mickeyl | and i'm still a part of it |
| 14:52.47 | mickeyl | (somewhat) |
| 14:52.52 | chouimat | mickeyl: iphone what a good idea ;) |
| 14:53.09 | mickeyl | well... can't say it's much fun, but there's tons of demand... |
| 14:53.22 | mickeyl | actually i like objective-c |
| 14:53.37 | mickeyl | and learning some new things is always refreshening |
| 14:53.42 | chouimat | so true |
| 14:54.16 | chouimat | hmmm maybe I should try to port darwin to the sheevaplug ... |
| 15:00.00 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 15:02.04 | Gnutoo | or GNUstep? |
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| 15:15.23 | hrw | re |
| 15:17.12 | hrw | I hate moments when I need to hack in kernel |
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| 15:27.33 | NekoXP | hey guys |
| 15:27.56 | NekoXP | so is there a cute way I can build my native toolchain such that I can install it *natively* on a system for development outside of OE? |
| 15:28.11 | NekoXP | it seems a damn shame to waste the fact that I have it build |
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| 15:31.38 | hrw | "bitbake meta-toolchain" |
| 15:44.40 | CIA-1 | 03Ihar Hrachyshka <ihar.hrachyshka@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r7ad718cfd6 10openembedded.git/ (10 files in 3 dirs): |
| 15:44.40 | CIA-1 | qt4: updated version to 4.5.2. |
| 15:44.40 | CIA-1 | Signed-off-by: Ihar Hrachyshka <ihar.hrachyshka@gmail.com> |
| 15:44.40 | CIA-1 | Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> |
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| 15:45.44 | woglinde | re |
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| 16:00.29 | hrw | http://tree.celinuxforum.org/CelfPubWiki/ELC2009Presentations?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=ELC.klaasvangend.openembedded.v4.pdf |
| 16:06.14 | hrw | worth reading |
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| 16:10.45 | mckoan | hrw: we all already know those pains |
| 16:11.37 | hrw | mckoan: sure, I know |
| 16:12.09 | florian | prits the second last slide and tapes it to the office wall |
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| 16:13.20 | hrw | yep |
| 16:13.23 | florian | hrw: this is quite good indeed |
| 16:13.39 | florian | he missed the painful environment setup |
| 16:13.50 | hrw | florian: I think that mvista has experience in embedded |
| 16:14.04 | hrw | florian: you mean something other then local.conf? |
| 16:14.05 | florian | hrw: sure... |
| 16:14.25 | florian | hrw: local.conf + shell environment |
| 16:14.32 | hrw | BBPATH suxx |
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| 16:14.59 | florian | any environment variable setting for oe must die... |
| 16:15.05 | hrw | ok, I need to finish |
| 16:15.11 | hrw | have a nice rest of day |
| 16:17.02 | CruX|_ | hrw|gone: nice presentations, thanks |
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| 16:18.30 | florian | -> home, bbiab |
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| 16:40.53 | woglinde | hi rkirti |
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| 16:45.25 | rkirti | hello woglinde |
| 16:48.57 | NekoXP | hmmnn.... how can I go about generating my own checksums.ini file? is there some automated way to do this? |
| 16:50.06 | woglinde | nekoxp nope |
| 16:50.12 | pb_ | it's just a file with checksums in, right? you could easily enough write a script to call sha256sum and m5sum. |
| 16:50.20 | pb_ | there's no real magic involved. |
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| 16:50.36 | NekoXP | so how does it get generated in git? just by hand? |
| 16:51.01 | pb_ | more or less. there are some semi-automated tools for adding to it but it's fundamentally a manual process. |
| 16:51.40 | woglinde | git has nothing to do with it |
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| 16:52.03 | NekoXP | well someone is checking in the changes I wondered if they did it with a script or just added the entry by hand |
| 16:52.13 | NekoXP | sorting it is automated.. sure.. .:D |
| 16:52.33 | pb_ | NekoXP: base.bbclass will print a suggested entry for you if it notices one is missing. |
| 16:52.49 | NekoXP | I never noticed that |
| 16:52.53 | pb_ | it's easy enough to just copy that into the file, and then run the sorter if you were too lazy to put it in the right place. |
| 16:52.57 | NekoXP | hehe :D |
| 16:53.19 | pb_ | that's approximately what I do, though in my case with added pauses to shake my fist at the monitor and curse the existence of checksums.ini |
| 16:54.15 | woglinde | pb *g* |
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| 17:00.18 | pb_ | go home now |
| 17:00.19 | pb_ | later all |
| 17:00.24 | rkirti | now that this topic is on, I have a rather naive query. I have been working on packages which are mostly pulled from only one repo (Maemo) so adding checksums is easy as pie, but sometimes there are generic packages which can be pulled from any debian mirror |
| 17:00.32 | rkirti | do I need to add checksums for all ? |
| 17:01.03 | pb_ | yeah, welcome to the sucky world of checksums.ini. |
| 17:03.56 | m4t | rkirti i think those usually have a cname |
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| 17:04.01 | m4t | that you could use |
| 17:04.51 | m4t | er i guess its an a record |
| 17:05.02 | m4t | but yeah, ie. ftp.us.debian.org points to 5x ips |
| 17:05.44 | rkirti | m4t: :) |
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| 17:06.21 | m4t | also, to get sha256; shasum -a 256 <filename> |
| 17:09.53 | rkirti | m4t: nice. I had been using gtkhash or some openssl based command so far. |
| 17:11.08 | m4t | i couldnt figure out how to get openssl to do sha256 |
| 17:11.16 | m4t | it does md5 and sha1 |
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| 17:14.35 | CIA-1 | 03Ihar Hrachyshka <ihar.hrachyshka@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rf3d6071476 10openembedded.git/recipes/qt4/ (qt4-embedded.inc qt4-x11-free.inc qt4.inc): |
| 17:14.35 | CIA-1 | qt4: added postgres, mysql, and sqlite2/3 support. |
| 17:14.35 | CIA-1 | Signed-off-by: Ihar Hrachyshka <ihar.hrachyshka@gmail.com> |
| 17:14.35 | CIA-1 | Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> |
| 17:15.00 | rkirti | m4t: openssl dgst -sha256 <tarball> |
| 17:15.33 | m4t | o |
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| 17:15.44 | m4t | easy enough |
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| 17:44.30 | woglinde | fighting with pulseaudio again |
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| 17:55.08 | woglinde | yes |
| 17:55.11 | woglinde | now it works |
| 17:55.38 | woglinde | pb with uclibc and linuxthread.old we have one problem |
| 17:55.54 | woglinde | gcc detects that __thread is available |
| 17:56.32 | woglinde | but if a library is linked of course the tls-functions are unkown |
| 17:56.57 | woglinde | a fix is suggest here I adapet it for pulseaudio where the problem occurs |
| 17:57.06 | woglinde | http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/libstdc++/2009-07/msg00001.html |
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| 18:10.51 | rkirti | Is there a do_clean task defined for image recipes ? I tried it but it doesnt seem to do be doing the right thing. |
| 18:17.35 | pb__ | woglinde: that looks like a good patch, though of course it would be even better to add tls support to uclibc |
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| 18:34.47 | khem | pb__: uclibc has TLS support on certain arches |
| 18:34.56 | khem | pb__: arm mips sh |
| 18:35.04 | Crofton|work | urg, jetlag is settling in |
| 18:35.38 | khem | woglinde: I think gcc only checks for TLS support though assembler |
| 18:36.02 | khem | we should probably build gcc with --disable-tls for uclibc/lt combo |
| 18:38.18 | mario-goulart | Does anybody know how to "glue" a kernel and a cpio file (for initramfs)? Currently I'm using the kernel's CONFIG_CMDLINE parameter to point to the rootfs, but this approach requires kernel recompilation for each modification made to rootfs. I'd like to have a kernel file and a cpio file containing the rootfs, then use something to put them together as an ELF file, so I don't need to recompile the kernel if I modify the rootfs (I'd |
| 18:38.18 | mario-goulart | only need to "glue" them together). |
| 18:38.53 | khem | Crofton|work: how was europe |
| 18:39.02 | Crofton|work | great |
| 18:39.18 | khem | was is your first time ? |
| 18:39.22 | Crofton|work | no |
| 18:39.31 | khem | I see |
| 18:39.38 | Crofton|work | I've been a number of times |
| 18:40.15 | khem | what all did u visit |
| 18:40.39 | Crofton|work | berlin/linuxtag |
| 18:41.22 | khem | nice was it sponsored trip ? |
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| 18:44.31 | Crofton|work | no |
| 18:44.57 | Crofton|work | basically vacation, but I can write off airfare do to Linux tag :) |
| 18:46.02 | pb__ | khem: oh, right. I wonder why woglinde is having trouble then. |
| 18:48.16 | khem | Crofton|work: it would be nice if you can send a summary of linux tag to ml if you have time to do so |
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| 18:50.25 | Crofton|work | I should try |
| 18:58.08 | rkirti | morning kergoth |
| 18:58.55 | kergoth | hey |
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| 19:06.50 | pb__ | g'day kergoth |
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| 19:10.34 | khem | someone other than me also complained about the size bloat due to enabling debug info |
| 19:10.41 | florian | re |
| 19:11.02 | florian | I didn't complain so far but yes its annoying |
| 19:11.22 | khem | with gcc 4.4 it dumps even more |
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| 19:27.56 | kergoth | does anyone know if anyone's looked into creating, alongside a normal image, the same image, but including the debug information for all included packages, to be used by gdb w/ a gdbserver on the target? |
| 19:29.09 | cbrake | kergoth: sounds interested |
| 19:29.13 | cbrake | *interesting |
| 19:30.00 | cbrake | kergoth: one other thing I've run into is needed binaries that can be used with oprofile (unless someone can suggest a better way to do profiling) |
| 19:30.10 | kergoth | well, it'd be cool if you could add gdbserver to an image, flash it, boot it, and fire up gdb and connect, and have the debug information available locally |
| 19:30.17 | kergoth | ah, hmm |
| 19:31.21 | khem | cbrake: gprof is also useful though its only stochastic |
| 19:32.18 | florian | kergoth: that's a pretty good idea |
| 19:32.44 | kergoth | okay, so i take it nobody's done it :) alrighty... |
| 19:33.15 | Crofton|work | the debug stuff makes it hard to build on my laptop |
| 19:33.19 | cbrake | kergoth: I've never gotten oprofile to work very well, but I'm pretty sure it has to frame-pointer options |
| 19:33.23 | khem | with gdbserver you dont need debug info on target you need it on host |
| 19:33.32 | kergoth | khem: yes, that's what I'm talking about. |
| 19:33.47 | kergoth | khem: right now its only available inside of a pile of -dbg packages in tmp/deploy/ipk, not exactly convenient |
| 19:33.52 | keesj | kergoth: I did this with mamona and I guess you can aswell with other OE based distro's |
| 19:34.20 | khem | kergoth: I see |
| 19:35.31 | kergoth | checks out mamona |
| 19:35.54 | kergoth | installers eh, cute |
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| 19:38.32 | woglinde_ | re |
| 19:38.44 | woglinde_ | khem its on i486 iwth uclibc |
| 19:39.42 | khem | woglinde, try adding --disable-tls to configure options for gcc-cross |
| 19:40.44 | woglinde | khem its only problem for now with pulseaudio |
| 19:40.58 | woglinde | which has tls check on its own |
| 19:41.17 | woglinde | so I adjusted the macro |
| 19:41.17 | khem | woglinde: I think it will be problem in libstdc++ too I believe |
| 19:41.18 | khem | and may be other packages |
| 19:41.37 | woglinde | then we should use the patch I posted |
| 19:41.47 | woglinde | on the tls m4 macro |
| 19:41.55 | woglinde | http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/libstdc++/2009-07/msg00001.html |
| 19:45.13 | khem | woglinde: yeah that is ok. |
| 19:45.38 | khem | but disable-tls is better for older |
| 19:45.47 | woglinde | hm? |
| 19:46.04 | woglinde | the macro adjust that |
| 19:48.11 | woglinde | argssssssss |
| 19:48.52 | khem | woglinde: I think the patch works for gcc libraries only |
| 19:48.59 | woglinde | why the hell I dont understand git reset |
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| 19:49.31 | khem | if we know for sure that TLS is not supported we should disable in toolchain IMP |
| 19:49.34 | khem | imo |
| 19:50.46 | woglinde | hm I cant undo a git reset --hard right? |
| 19:50.54 | khem | :) |
| 19:52.24 | khem | woglinde: not possible I think |
| 19:52.31 | woglinde | damnit |
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| 19:53.54 | woglinde | hi laibsch |
| 19:54.07 | Laibsch | hi |
| 19:54.09 | Laibsch | hi |
| 19:54.19 | Laibsch | I haven't really signed in, yet ;-) |
| 19:55.47 | woglinde | okay |
| 19:56.00 | woglinde | now I have to do all pulseaudio patches agaib |
| 19:56.25 | khem | woglinde: always save diffs :) |
| 19:56.39 | woglinde | khem haha |
| 19:56.45 | woglinde | they was save in the commits |
| 19:56.59 | woglinde | were |
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| 20:06.13 | kergoth | woglinde: local files in the working copy or index are completely gone when you do a reset, but if your changes were committed, you can get to the old ref before reset updated it by using git reflog |
| 20:06.19 | kergoth | s/do a reset/do a hard reset/ |
| 20:07.23 | woglinde | kergoth hm I did hard |
| 20:07.26 | woglinde | so all was gone |
| 20:07.31 | woglinde | but its okay |
| 20:07.35 | woglinde | learning by the hard way |
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| 20:07.42 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:07.51 | kergoth | well keep reflog in mind, can be useful on occasion |
| 20:07.52 | woglinde | the pulseaudio patches were trival |
| 20:07.59 | woglinde | but I dont remeber what I fixed else |
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| 20:08.36 | kergoth | started setting up *tons* of project directories, including the collections, to avoid those issues, so now everything he works on is completely independent of everything else.. hehe |
| 20:09.34 | woglinde | hm I hope the push will destroy nothing |
| 20:10.26 | rkirti | woglinde: reflog works till like a month of the hard reset, apparently |
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| 20:10.49 | rkirti | woglinde: I have had success recovering my files lost due to hard reset thanks to that |
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| 20:15.35 | woglinde | rkirti hm |
| 20:15.38 | woglinde | I will try |
| 20:17.36 | rkirti | woglinde: You most probably have already found this, but just in case : http://tinyurl.com/mlg9r2 - a comment on the same page links to a nice comprehensive tutorial on git recovery |
| 20:20.22 | rkirti | Is it possible to override the use of rm_work in a particular recipe, while having it in local.conf ? |
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| 20:36.35 | BlindMan | evening |
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| 20:39.48 | florian | hi BlindMan |
| 20:41.37 | woglinde | re blinder |
| 20:44.35 | khem | rkirti: you can append and prepend it it |
| 20:45.51 | rkirti | khem: :) did that. very hacky in my case, but worked |
| 20:46.18 | khem | rkirti: what happens if you define do_rm_work in your recipe |
| 20:47.45 | rkirti | khem: nice one. Will check, Hopefully it should successfully override. Thanks :) |
| 20:47.56 | kergoth | rm_work_pn-foo = ":" ... rm_work[func] = "1" ? :) |
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| 20:51.32 | likewise | hello all |
| 20:51.40 | Crofton|work | gm |
| 20:53.19 | florian | hi likewise |
| 20:53.26 | likewise | khem, kergoth, all: I would like to add a new architecture "nios2" to OpenEmbedded, currently being added by a colleague of mine. It's probably a uclinux + uclibc combo. Is this .dev material I can commit even when it's still in non-working state? |
| 20:54.01 | kergoth | as long as its isolated to a certain arch/machine, i don't see any reason why not. it won't affect anyone else |
| 20:54.23 | woglinde | likewise hm you could use a userbranch too |
| 20:54.28 | woglinde | if you are unsure |
| 20:54.46 | likewise | kergoth: Agreed, it's isolated, we will start with external toolchain support. Once we touch common parts (toolchain) I might work on a branch or go through patches. |
| 20:55.31 | kergoth | sounds good |
| 20:55.51 | likewise | florian, Crofton: how was the LinuxTag show? |
| 20:56.00 | woglinde | likewise was okay |
| 20:56.13 | florian | likewise: http://fl0rian.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/linuxtag-summary/ |
| 20:56.14 | likewise | woglinde: sorry didn't know you where there too? Many OE devs? |
| 20:56.18 | woglinde | we give out many flyers |
| 20:56.42 | likewise | A0 poster? |
| 20:56.42 | woglinde | gave |
| 20:56.43 | woglinde | args |
| 20:57.09 | kergoth | i need to try to talk MV into sending me to one of these conferences that have an OE presence |
| 20:57.30 | woglinde | hehe |
| 20:57.31 | woglinde | yes |
| 20:57.44 | woglinde | maybee you can come to oedem too |
| 20:57.44 | florian | I'm quite happy with it but we need to improve advertizing these events. |
| 20:58.00 | Crofton | kergoth, +1 |
| 20:58.08 | kergoth | woglinde: that would be nice. doubt itll happen this year, everybody's being tight fisted with the travel funds, stupid economy.. |
| 20:58.24 | florian | so that we get a higher number of our users to shows like linuxtag |
| 20:58.30 | likewise | we should meet mid-ocean :-) |
| 20:58.35 | Crofton | khem, http://fl0rian.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/linuxtag-summary/ |
| 20:59.19 | likewise | what of the friendly-arm devices is that specifically on the photo? I am interested in the MACHINE/IMAGE combo :-) |
| 20:59.35 | khem | Crofton: yeah thx read it just now |
| 20:59.37 | florian | isn't sealand somewhere in there ;) |
| 20:59.51 | woglinde | khem hm could you please look at uclibc-inital |
| 21:00.00 | woglinde | the first make now builds the whole uclibc |
| 21:00.08 | khem | woglinde hmm |
| 21:00.13 | woglinde | so the second make made no sin |
| 21:00.23 | likewise | khem: long time no see, good to see you around again |
| 21:00.30 | woglinde | pregen install_dev |
| 21:00.45 | florian | likewise: the thingy with the large screen left is a micro2440 sdk with 7" screen |
| 21:00.51 | khem | likewise: I was on vacation and then work piled on : |
| 21:01.01 | khem | so no much cycles for OE lately |
| 21:01.24 | woglinde | whahahaa |
| 21:01.38 | woglinde | micro misscompiles i486 targets |
| 21:01.59 | likewise | khem: I thought you had a multi-khem-kore upgrade recently? |
| 21:02.10 | woglinde | undefined reference to `__i686.get_pc_thunk.bx' |
| 21:02.12 | khem | heh yeah |
| 21:02.25 | pb__ | woglinde: that's not a miscompilation, it's just a glibc bug |
| 21:02.37 | pb__ | see the logs :-} |
| 21:03.56 | khem | woglinde what march is it using |
| 21:04.20 | woglinde | pb and wyh nobody fixed it? |
| 21:04.27 | khem | woglinde: does thsis patch helps http://www.eglibc.org/archives/patches/msg00073.html |
| 21:04.36 | pb__ | woglinde: well, I guess not many people care about i586 and i686. |
| 21:04.43 | pb__ | it's a trivial bug, it should be easy to fix |
| 21:05.20 | pb__ | er, not many people care about i486 and i586 |
| 21:05.22 | woglinde | khem aeh? |
| 21:05.28 | pb__ | I guess plenty still care about i686. |
| 21:05.36 | woglinde | khem I am trying i486 arch for wrap board |
| 21:05.38 | pb__ | khem: that patch doesn't look like it will help with this |
| 21:06.11 | pb__ | not least since it's all guarded by "#ifdef __i686" and that isn't going to be true on a 486 system |
| 21:06.31 | khem | oh i486 hmm but I think you need to use march=i486 while compiling glibc |
| 21:06.38 | pb__ | woglinde: glibc 2.6.1 should work, it got broken somewhere between there and 2.9. |
| 21:06.44 | woglinde | *sigh* why always I stumble about it |
| 21:06.57 | likewise | seriously, shouldn't x86 be more supported now that we can consider intel/x86 going embedded? |
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| 21:07.30 | pb__ | woglinde: or, as I say, see the logs. I can't remember exactly what you need to to do fix it but I did mention it to someone else yesterday or the day before |
| 21:07.43 | pb__ | dinner time now, bbiab |
| 21:08.06 | khem | pb__: I think with newer version of glibc some old x86 variants support is dropped |
| 21:08.19 | khem | I think i386 for sure |
| 21:08.34 | woglinde | hm |
| 21:09.13 | woglinde | hm maybee debian has a fix |
| 21:09.15 | pb__ | ah, not dinner time after all |
| 21:09.27 | pb__ | checks the logs himself |
| 21:10.56 | pb__ | 10:49.00<pb_> valhalla: I think it's probably just a case of making dl-tlsdesc.S use SETUP_PIC_REG(). |
| 21:11.06 | pb__ | woglinde: that's probably what you need to do, this is the same bug. |
| 21:11.42 | pb__ | it happens to compile on i686 as it stands but it will break for i586 and older archs. |
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| 21:14.32 | pb__ | or just use an older libc, if you don't need 2.9 specifically |
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| 21:18.02 | khem | woglinde: you need this patch http://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=commit;f=sysdeps/i386/dl-tlsdesc.S;h=71885b7a9149b5e54906204491b64d5ad0a48e9d |
| 21:18.31 | woglinde | http://sourceware.org/ml/libc-help/2008-12/msg00013.html |
| 21:18.32 | woglinde | hehe |
| 21:19.04 | pb__ | yeah, that looks like the right thing |
| 21:19.23 | woglinde | hm should I provide a patch? |
| 21:19.28 | khem | sure |
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| 23:11.40 | khem | GNUtoo: which servers |
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| 23:12.01 | GNUtoo | oe's ones...there are rumors about SSH exploits...but they are only rumors |
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| 23:15.52 | GNUtoo | khem, I first knew about it in the openssh mailing list... |
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| 23:16.50 | sakoman | I need to add some stuff to the pkg_postinst for gnome-panel |
| 23:17.44 | sakoman | when I add a pkg_postinst to the recipe it puts my additions *before* those that come from gconf class |
| 23:18.06 | sakoman | is there an easy way to have my stuff come *afte* the gconf stuff? |
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| 23:21.38 | booxter | sakoman: just an assumption |
| 23:24.00 | sakoman | I tried pkg_postinst_append, but no joy |
| 23:25.14 | sakoman | it puts it at the start, just like pkg_postinst without the append |
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