IRC log for #oe on 20091230

00:02.39GNUtoo|oeeeAM_LIBTOOL->AC_LIBTOOL and removing DOLT seem to fix it
00:04.09GNUtoo|oeeeas it is not the only recipe doing that maybe a more global fix should be deployed no?
00:05.13XorA|gonefinds it bizarre that we need scripts to fix scripts which fix scripts which fix scripts which in the end do something that is a couple of commands for the linker
00:05.33XorA|gonegnu build land is a little insane these days
00:06.05khemcan dolt deal with Xcompilation ?
00:07.10khemdolt seems to be a libtool optimizer like psyco for python :)
00:09.45GNUtoo|oeeedon't know...I just learned what dolt was
00:11.26khemwhich package is it thats complaining
00:11.33GNUtoo|oeeegoffice
00:11.34GNUtoo|oeeeand
00:11.57GNUtoo|oeeexf86-video-intel
00:12.06GNUtoo|oeeeif I remember well(for intel)
00:13.18ant__khem: about python errors...NOTE: <type 'exceptions.ValueError'>:empty string for float() while evaluating:
00:13.19ant__${@base_version_less_or_equal("KERNEL_VERSION", "2.6.30", "", "CONFIG_INITRAMFS_COMPRESSION_LZMA=y", d)}
00:14.03GNUtoo|oeeehere's dolt: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/dolt/tree/dolt.m4
00:14.54XorA|goneant__: I think base version means just the 2.6 part
00:15.12ant__so I got a bad example (grepping)
00:21.27woglindebah what a bad hint
00:21.28woglindeOptionally, copy this file into acinclude.m4, to avoid the need to have it
00:21.28woglindednl installed when running autoconf on your project.
00:24.30CIA-5403Graeme Gregory <dp@xora.org.uk> 07org.openembedded.dev * rd7a3a3a09f 10openembedded.git/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
00:24.35CIA-54transmission_1.76+1.80b3.bb : update to the latest beta of transmission
00:24.37CIA-54This gives magnet support to transmission which is becoming more essential
00:24.39CIA-54these days.
00:25.19GNUtoo|oeeeI'll go
00:25.20GNUtoo|oeeebye
00:28.23XorA|goneshould one day do something not torrent related
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00:30.43woglindenite xora
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01:21.21Aditya1anyone using fedora 12 for their OE builds?
01:22.32CIA-5403Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r4de0c3d90b 10openembedded.git/recipes/uclibc/ (uclibc_git.bb uclibc_nptl.bb):
01:22.35CIA-54uclibc-nptl: Move SRCREV to latest on nptl branch.
01:22.37CIA-54* move the SRCREV of git recipe to tip of master.
01:22.44CIA-54Signed-off-by: Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com>
01:34.38woglindeAditya1 some people
01:34.47Aditya1hmm
01:34.57Aditya1any issues with a specfic version of ubuntu?
01:35.13Aditya1I tried building my own kernel from the OMAP3530 SDK
01:35.17Aditya1and it actually compiled
01:35.25Aditya1but I cant get DVI to work :/
01:35.27Aditya1DSP works
01:35.29Aditya1which is grea
01:35.35Aditya1but eth0 and dvi dont work
01:35.47Aditya1and they dont really have an IRC I can ask on :/
01:35.47woglindedvi might be an xserver failure
01:36.01Aditya1do you know what drivers DVI needs?
01:36.19Aditya1I had omapfb drivers
01:36.23woglindeyeah
01:36.26Aditya1other problem being the stupid boot arguments
01:37.07Aditya1some wouldn't be recognized, others would be, they wouldn't seem to do anything
01:37.10Aditya1woglinde: what drivers?
01:37.28woglindeomapfb is right
01:37.38woglindesorry didnt test so much yet
01:37.44woglindemostly compiling for beagleboard
01:40.16Aditya1hmm
01:40.22Aditya1yeah I am compiling for bboard too
01:40.34Aditya1I was just compiling from OMAP SDK cause OE Builds weren't working for me
01:40.47Aditya1but my virtualbox image crapped out today
01:41.00Aditya1so I figured when I recreate the ubuntu image, I'd try OE again
01:41.19Aditya1what distro/setup do you use?
01:42.02woglinde?????
01:42.14woglindeonly download the sdk-files
01:42.18woglindeand it will build
01:44.28CIA-5403Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rfc1a27a48b 10openembedded.git/recipes/uclibc/uclibc_nptl.bb:
01:44.30CIA-54uclibc_nptl.bb: Set DEFAULT_PREFERENCE to -1.
01:44.32CIA-54Signed-off-by: Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com>
01:45.58Aditya1sdk files?
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07:36.00filipkhem: /topic
07:36.03filiper
07:42.27CIA-5403Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rb657b3004d 10openembedded.git/recipes/kexecboot/linux-kexecboot-2.6.32+2.6.33-rc2/spitz/defconfig:
07:42.35CIA-54linux-kexecboot-2.6.32+2.6.33-rc2: update spitz defconfig a bit to support of booting from internal hdd
07:42.42CIA-54Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com>
07:43.07filiphttp://pastebin.ca/1731587 shouldn't a native version or qemu be used here?
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07:59.45CIA-5403Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r6f3c454e90 10openembedded.git/ (146 files in 6 dirs):
07:59.48CIA-54gcc-svn: Move SRCREV to recipe.
07:59.50CIA-54* Delete the unused patches
07:59.52CIA-54* Add --with-system-zlib to configure options.
07:59.54CIA-54* Add patches needed for uclibc build.
07:59.56CIA-54Signed-off-by: Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com>
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08:46.28lesliei'm going to rebuild glibc again, to make it support profiling, anyone knows what's the step to just rebuild glibc? last time i meet some errors and rebuild the whole system :(
08:47.49JaMaleslie: clean both glibc and glibc-initial
08:48.18leslieJaMa: oh, ok, thanks !
08:49.05JaMasometimes I had to rebuild also gcc* recipes because of some missing headers (like stdio.h, limits.h) not sure why but I've seen it only with eglibc..
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08:50.14zeckeJaMa: leslie: gcc-initial and (e)glibc share some header files... glibc is overwriting them in the staging area
08:51.22lesliezecke: i have already do the clean
08:51.32lesliezecke: i have to rebuild all again?
08:51.53zeckeleslie: not all, glibc, gcc-cross-initial as well
08:52.33lesliezecke: ... ok, i'm scared that moment ... it takes too long time
08:52.46JaMazecke: was it always like this? I haven't seen it few years ago iirc
08:52.52lesliezecke: to rebuild all like xorg ang both qt stuff
08:53.34zeckeleslie: only gcc-cross-initial and glibc
08:53.45zeckeJaMa: I think it was always the case :}
08:54.21JaMaleslie: I use this (but as zecke said its probably not minimal and you are using different versions probably): for i in recipes/gcc/*4.4.2*bb recipes/eglibc/*2.10*bb; do echo $i; bitbake -c clean -b $i; done; bitbake -k shr-image
09:00.39ant_workzecke: any idea why this fails? ${@base_version_less_or_equal("${PV}", "2.6.30", "", "CONFIG_INITRAMFS_COMPRESSION_LZMA=y", d)}
09:01.20ant_workPV is "2.6.26"
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09:04.06zeckeant_work: no idea
09:04.21JaMaant_work: it looks like bbclass code, couldn't you use KERNEL_VERSION instead of PV? but PV should probably work too in all cases
09:04.43ant_workno, KERNEL_VERSION is "2.6"
09:05.14JaMaant_work: thats KERNEL_MAJOR_VERSION
09:05.29ant_workJaMa: the point is: it's a string
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09:06.40JaMaant_work: RRECOMMENDS_kernel-module-hostap-cs += '${@base_version_less_or_equal("KERNEL_VERSION", "2.6.17", "", "apm-wifi-suspendfix", d)}'
09:06.51JaMaant_work: not sure why its not between ${}..
09:06.55ant_workI followed that example but just wont work
09:07.06ant_worktry grepping in classes
09:07.52JaMayup that was from kernel.bbclass
09:08.06ant_workkernel.bclass mangles KERNEL_VERSION
09:08.33ant_workbut we can rely on PV (in linux-kexecboot.inc)
09:08.47JaMaant_work: but if you read def base_version_less_or_equal, then first parametr is variable name
09:08.49ant_workor play with @get_kernelversion
09:08.52JaMaant_work: not variable value
09:09.12ant_worka, the pointer you mean
09:09.40JaMadef base_less_or_equal(variable, checkvalue, truevalue, falsevalue, d): if float(bb.data.getVar(variable,d,1)) <= float(checkvalue):
09:09.55JaMatry it with "PV" instead of "${PV}" :)
09:11.34ant_workJaMa: I tried
09:11.36ant_work${@base_version_less_or_equal("KERNEL_VERSION", "2.6.30", "", "CONFIG_INITRAMFS_COMPRESSION_LZMA=y", d)}
09:11.58JaMaant_work: and that KERNEL_VERSION should be available in linux-kexecboot.inc as it inherits kernel.bbclass too through linux.inc
09:11.58ant_workand got
09:11.59ant_workNOTE: <type 'exceptions.ValueError'>:empty string for float() while evaluating:
09:12.39ant_workJaMa: just ned to play with it a bit more ;)
09:13.01JaMaok
09:20.55leslie_zecke: it seems workable to clean glibc and glibc-initial, to rebuild glibc
09:22.22leslie_zecke: the compilation of bitbake glibc finished, and seems correct
09:26.24CIA-5403Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rd419d5722a 10openembedded.git/contrib/angstrom/build-feeds.sh: angstrom feed builder: add geany
09:26.34CIA-5403Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r0462d99080 10openembedded.git/contrib/angstrom/sort.sh: angstrom feed sorter: add archos5 machine
09:26.40CIA-5403Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r84c277962c 10openembedded.git/recipes/gcc/gcc-package-target.inc:
09:26.43CIA-54gcc-package-target: set INSANE_SKIP is true on the objc package to mask missing GNU_HASH
09:26.49CIA-54* it was suggested on the oe-devel mailinglist that it doesn't matter for libobjc
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09:28.16GNUtoo|oeeehi,
09:28.26GNUtoo|oeeemmm abiword also use doltlibtool
09:30.36GNUtoo|oeeewe should find a better solution than -DOLT on each configure.in file
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09:34.00zeckeleslie_: great
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09:43.46CIA-5403Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r65a4b38bbc 10openembedded.git/recipes/perl/libhtml-treebuilder-perl_3.23.bb: libhtml-treebuilder-perl: updated dependency
09:43.56CIA-5403Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rbd3d9db65d 10openembedded.git/recipes/perl/perl_5.8.8.bb:
09:44.02CIA-54perl: bumped PR to force rebuild; libextutils-makemaker-perl can have overwritten MM_Unix.pm in staging
09:44.08CIA-54(see commit c595d241fb4d23c714dc61a1c9d281b9bbb133cd) a rebuild fixes this.
09:44.10CIA-5403Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc595d241fb 10openembedded.git/recipes/perl/ (2 files):
09:44.13CIA-54libextutils-makemaker-perl: removed; with the new staging it breaks perl by overwriting MM_Unix.pm
09:44.17CIA-54It is not needed anyway as makemaker is already created when perl is build, so remove
10:08.55leslie_anybody knows how to change OE_QMAKE_CFLAGS in oe?
10:10.22zeckeleslie_: like any other variable as well. :)
10:10.33zeckeleslie_: git grep in classes/ for their initial values
10:12.18leslie_zecke: thanks a lot~~ :-)
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10:52.04GNUtoo|oeeefor staging a binary should I append to the staging process?
10:53.39GNUtoo|oeee(I want to stage libwmf-config)
10:57.52GNUtoo|oeeelike do_stage_append(){ install ${bindir}/libwmf-config ${STAGING_BINDIR}
10:58.00GNUtoo|oeeesomething like that
10:58.07GNUtoo|oeeewith the good install arguments
10:58.28zeckeGNUtoo|oeee: that is old skool staging
10:58.37GNUtoo|oeeelol ok
10:58.37pb_something like that would work, though with the new staging system I think you should be able to just delete do_stage() altogether.
10:58.42zeckeGNUtoo|oeee: you would have to check the mail archives for the new skool
10:58.51GNUtoo|oeeeok lol thanks
10:59.03GNUtoo|oeeeI thought the new school was kind of automatic
10:59.16GNUtoo|oeeeI'll re-read the mails about that
10:59.23pb_yes, it is.  you just need a small photo of RP stuck to your monitor, and everything should be done for you.
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11:38.57pb_zecke: what's the status with the oestats waterfall at the moment?
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11:40.35zeckepb_: I suck. Laibsch attempted to build a package, the installed server had "issues" he was not very specific and I planned to create a virtualbox with the distro to test it myself
11:41.14pb_righto
11:41.50zeckepb_: maybe I manage to do it next year
11:44.33pb_fingers crossed
11:45.07pb_I am still happy to install oestats on ltg if it is too difficult/annoying to get it working on melo.
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11:45.58zeckebrb... need to pull the power plage from the taiwanese plastique router...
11:46.05pb_heh
11:48.28zeckepb_: it can't be that difficult(tm)
11:48.53pb_right, just a case of pressing the correct keys on your computer
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12:07.19zeckepb_: okay, I'm installing a vm now
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12:10.26pb_excellent
12:10.30pb_go zecke!
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12:49.10CIA-5403Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r234d22a2e9 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini recipes/bluez/bluez4_4.59.bb): bluez4: add 4.59
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12:56.24GNUtoommm in the porting guide there is no simple way to add a binary
12:56.49GNUtoobinaty means ${bindir}/libwmf-config
12:57.06pb_what porting guide are you referring to?
12:57.20pb_oh, you mean the new-staging porting guide?
12:57.23GNUtoo[oe] Staging - time to end the current mess - now with patches
12:57.27GNUtooyes
12:58.02pb_I don't think you should need to do anything special to add a binary.  It ought to "just work", as far as I know.
12:58.19GNUtooin my case it doesn't
12:59.00GNUtoosysroot-destdir only has the libs and the headers
12:59.05GNUtoonot that binary
12:59.11pb_is your "make install" installing the binary into the right place?
12:59.19GNUtooyes
13:00.03GNUtoobecause the binary is in package and in image
13:00.21GNUtooand I realy need that binary for abiword...else CROSS_COMPILE BADNESS
13:00.22pb_er
13:00.29pb_is this a target binary you are trying to stage?
13:00.36pb_normally you would only stage native binaries.
13:00.47GNUtooouch....
13:00.51GNUtooyes
13:01.00GNUtoommm
13:01.21pb_I don't think you will get any useful effect if you install a target binary into staging.  There is no infrastructure in oe that would allow you to run it.
13:01.25GNUtoo"cross"-compiling for x86 target makes me do some confusion
13:01.34GNUtooindeed
13:01.35GNUtoosorry
13:01.52GNUtooso I should create a native package which stage the binary or something like that?
13:01.56pb_right
13:02.15GNUtoohere's what that binary does:
13:03.22pb_if you make a native package, the staging infrastructure should stage the binary automatically.  it's inhibited for target packages.
13:03.50GNUtoolibwmf-config --cflags => -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include
13:04.13pb_if that's all it does, it might be worth investigating whether you can throw it away and use pkg-config instead.
13:04.35GNUtoook thanks
13:06.36GNUtoono pc$ file
13:07.19GNUtooI fear that if I compile a native version it would give native flags
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13:13.27GNUtoomaybe I found a better solution...I use prefix:
13:13.49GNUtoolibwmf-config --prefix=/home/embedded/oetmp/staging/i686-angstrom-linux --libs => -L/home/embedded/oetmp/staging/i686-angstrom-linux/lib -lwmf -lwmflite -lfreetype -lz -lX11 -lexpat -ljpeg -lpng -lz -lm
13:13.50GNUtooetc...
13:14.10GNUtooI'll make this native recipe
13:16.31GNUtoomaybe that is even better:
13:16.32GNUtoo--with-libwmf-config
13:17.39GNUtoobut we still should find a fix for dotlibtool
13:23.11GNUtoomaybe I should write to the ml about that
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13:41.33CIA-5403Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rcc4ed9b2bc 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/om-gta02.conf:
13:41.35CIA-54om-gta02.conf: set MACHINE_DRI_MODULES = glamo only for shr as it needs mesa-dri_git.bb
13:41.37CIA-54Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com>
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14:24.28CIA-5403Marcin Juszkiewicz <marcin@juszkiewicz.com.pl> 07org.openembedded.dev * rbc6231c101 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/linux_2.6.27.bb: linux 2.6.27: updated to .42
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14:27.17zeckepb_: short update: I do have hardy installed, I have a django stat package too
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14:38.12jeremy_lainehello
14:38.29jeremy_lainedoes anybody use .debs for their distro here?
14:39.06jeremy_lainea problem I am running into is that the package index is getting rebuilt too frequently
14:39.40jeremy_lainethere seems to be provisions for a "DEB_PACKAGE_INDEX_CLEAN" stamp, which indicates when the package cache is clean
14:40.10jeremy_laine.. but the presence of this file is not tested before regenerating the package index (unlike in package_ipkg.class)
14:44.55pb_zecke: very good
14:48.55hrwmorning
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15:03.37pb_mickey|sofa: good afternoon
15:03.48mickey|sofahey pb_
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15:08.31XorA|gonehey mickeyl
15:08.34XorA|gonehey mickey|sofa
15:09.11mickey|sofahey XorA
15:09.18mickey|sofagot any gadgets for xmas? :)
15:09.30XorAmickey|sofa: no, Im safely gadget free :-)
15:09.36mickey|sofahehe
15:09.37mickey|sofagood for you
15:09.48XorAactually not 100% true, I bought a r3600 nvidia Ion based device
15:10.28mickey|sofasounds powerful
15:10.30mickey|sofabut... what is that?
15:10.43XorAits an intel atom/nvidia geforce combo
15:10.45zeckepb_: I need to ping Laibsch to get his django packet
15:10.54XorAso low power for x86 but will play 1080p video
15:10.55mickey|sofacool. so a netbook?
15:11.08XorAlike the EEE boxes, but with some grunt int he gfx dept
15:11.09pb_zecke: ah, isn't it the standard one from ubuntu?
15:11.20pb_but, anyway, do what you need to do :-)
15:11.58XorAjust need to wait for the Win7 dvd to arrive now
15:14.13mickey|sofahmm, windows?
15:14.16mickey|sofatsss
15:14.36mickey|sofawaits for the next MBP 13" update
15:16.08XorAmickeyl: turns out linux VDPDAU support sucks :-)
15:16.49eFfeMJaMa: ping
15:16.59JaMaeFfeM: pong
15:17.44eFfeMjama, got your email, i'm not really a perl wiz either but most of the things you forwarded are new recipes and so pretty harmless.
15:18.19eFfeMi see no problem committing them even though my perl is not good enough to test it (i mainly needed perl for some mythweb related functionality and kinda "made it work"
15:18.44eFfeMonly remark i had was that the perl modules typically reside in recipes/perl and do not get their own dir
15:19.55eFfeMand probably i would prefer committing on a per module basis (as that allows for easier rollback) (and I think checksums are missing too)
15:20.18eFfeMdo you feel making those changes that way is a good way forward
15:20.20eFfeM?
15:20.34JaMaeFfeM: ok.. I'll ask them for move and proper credits in it.. because I'm not sure as there is different combination of author/submiter a bit strange..
15:21.02eFfeMi can commit on their behalf, that is what often happens with new developers
15:21.18eFfeMhttp://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/GitPhraseBook#Commiting_someones_else_work
15:21.39eFfeMbut it does expose their email address in the git log
15:21.52JaMaeFfeM: yes.. but there is 3 different "realnames" for that work (1 author I guess) so not sure which one to use..
15:22.14eFfeMah ok, then better ask them and either send to patchwork or the mailing list
15:22.30JaMaparilo, chuck norris and anton
15:22.36eFfeMpreferably not in one big chunk but per module
15:23.03JaMaoki
15:23.25eFfeM(btw thought they were only from parilo, didn't see the other names)
15:26.43JaMaeFfeM: other names are in patch body and in submitter in 2nd patch..
15:27.00eFfeMah ok, didn't review in that much detail
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16:05.06CIA-5403Jeremy Lainé <jeremy.laine@bolloretelecom.eu> 07org.openembedded.dev * r280420fa7a 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/linux-2.6.31/qemux86/defconfig: linux-2.6.31: enable 8139cp for networking in qemux86
16:05.46woglindehi
16:07.08jeremy_laineanybody notice that iptables is broken?
16:07.38jeremy_lainethe /usr/libexec/xtables/*.so files are no longer shipped in "iptables", for some reason they have been moved to "iptables-dbg"
16:07.53jeremy_lainethe corresponding commit is:http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=da29e9aaa051f40665f818fe5884725047288a2f
16:09.26woglindejeremy_laine hm ah typical plugin problem
16:10.13XorAthat commit was made while asleep at the wheel from looks of things
16:10.33jeremy_laineyep, looks like the line: FILES_${PN}-dbg += "${libexecdir}/xtables"
16:10.42jeremy_laineshould be: FILES_${PN}-dbg += "${libexecdir}/xtables/.debug"
16:10.46XorAjeremy_laine: just fix that like, bump PR and commit
16:11.33jeremy_laineXorA: I was wondering why I could not longer get shell access to my devices :)
16:11.49XorAjeremy_laine: hehe
16:12.00jeremy_laineXorA: so I had to rebuild my image for qemux86 to debug
16:12.29jeremy_laineXorA: which is when I realised networking was broken for qemux86.. long turnaround time for a fix!
16:17.35hrwbye
16:17.40XorAcurses thunderbird for not having an account export option
16:21.44khemjeremy_laine: I have fixed qemumips havent got around to qemux86
16:22.04GNUtoo|oeeewoglinde, hi, do you have an openoffice recipe?
16:22.36kergothhmmm
16:23.03woglindegnutoo at work
16:23.09khemXorA: are you switching your mail client ?
16:23.17woglindehi khem
16:23.23woglindegnutoo next week
16:23.24khemwoglinde: hello..
16:23.40XorAkhem: considering it, but I cant be arsed switching accounts on all my machines
16:25.15khemXorA: I usually use mutt with IMAP works well for multiple machines
16:26.04GNUtoo|oeeeok
16:26.07XorAkhem: mutt keeps segfaulting/locking up on me when network connection dies and so is annoying me :-)
16:26.38GNUtoo|oeeebtw about mutt...what's the most usable mail client in oe?
16:26.52XorAGNUtoo: mutt :-)
16:26.55GNUtoo|oeeeclaws has an issue with screen size with 800x480 when composing mails
16:26.56GNUtoo|oeeeok
16:27.05GNUtoo|oeeeand gnus is too dificult to setup
16:27.07XorAGNUtoo: claws has a small screen mode
16:27.14GNUtoo|oeeethat's what I used
16:27.18GNUtoo|oeeethe rest is fine
16:27.37GNUtoo|oeeeit's only the compose winows that go beyong the screen size
16:28.18XorAodd, must be new breakage, I used to use it
16:29.30GNUtoo|oeeeok
16:29.56GNUtoo|oeeebasically it is usable if you put  a lot of breaklines...at the end of the mail you send
16:30.01khemXorA: hmm I never faced this situation thus far most of the time I am connected to network
16:30.05GNUtoo|oeeebut that's not good
16:30.13khemXorA: may be use pop or disconnected IMAP
16:31.00XorAkhem: yeah, will have to figure out running offlineimap on windows
16:33.16khemXorA: or use Andrew File system for storing mails :)
16:33.35XorAafs always looks like a disaster waiting to happen to me
16:33.36khemthen you can mount it from other machines and it will sync
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16:36.44khemXorA: windows means thunderbird is your best bet
16:37.14XorAand thunderbird 3 has that really fucking annoying auto conf stuff that always gets it wrong, but doesnt seem to have a disable :-(
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16:38.42khemuses IMAP with apple mail,kmail and mutt and is happy thus far
16:39.13XorAI just object to typing the same info 7-8 times for 7-8 accounts
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16:40.25khemyou could copy .thunderbird dirs around :)
16:42.35pb__morning kergoth
16:44.57kergothhey
16:46.13woglindehi pb
16:46.17woglindehi kergoth
16:46.19woglindehi ph5
16:46.23pb__hi woglinde
16:46.31pH5hi all
16:46.55khemjeremy_laine: thx for fixing the iptables thing which I broke :)
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17:00.19XorAkhem: you must promise to drink more coffee before commits :-)
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17:00.55khemactually heh yes
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17:04.28khemXorA: heh yes
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17:28.27B_LizzardDoes anyone else get this error?
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17:28.36B_LizzardRequested 'x11 >= 1.1.99.1' but version of X11 is 1.1.5
17:28.42B_LizzardWith libxext-1.1.1
17:28.56woglindeB_Lizzard which distribution?
17:29.13woglindeproblem is the different xorg packages now in oe
17:29.14B_Lizzardjlime, I know, it's not Angstrom
17:29.27woglindeuse the sane-xorg reivison files
17:29.35woglindefor distribution
17:29.47B_LizzardClean build with clean openembedded workdir
17:30.05B_LizzardI tried with and without preferred-xorg-versions-X11R7.5.inc
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17:30.46woglindeyeah preferred-xorg-versions-X11R7.5.inc is a bit broken at the moment
17:30.49khemminimal should also work
17:30.57woglindese 7.4 and 7.4 updates
17:31.00khemit used 7.4
17:31.00B_LizzardIf I "fix" configure.ca to accept 1.1.5, it fails at do_configure
17:31.19woglindeno
17:31.20B_LizzardI see that Angstrom doesn't have that preferred-version thing
17:31.24woglindedont fix the configures
17:31.30B_LizzardYeah, I know
17:31.36B_Lizzard(I meant do_compile)
17:31.49woglindehm I thought one commit fixed the xorg7.5
17:31.57woglindeseems I need to test it again
17:32.07khemB_Lizzard: mix and match will get you a dalmatian
17:32.21B_LizzardI know :)
17:32.34B_LizzardThing is, it compiled for me a couple of days ago.
17:32.49woglindehm
17:32.52khemyes and lot of updates from martin were pushed recently
17:32.54woglindelook at the git-log
17:33.01B_Lizzardthe openembedded workdir must've been a week old from now.
17:33.17khemB_Lizzard: week is too old for .dev
17:33.32B_LizzardYeah, I know.
17:33.39B_LizzardAt least it narrows it down.
17:33.58B_LizzardThe error seems pretty clear-cut, and that's what worries me.
17:37.03woglindehms
17:37.21woglindelibudev-dev is still broken
17:37.29woglindewhy noboy fixing such lowhanging fruits
17:38.00woglindethe following files were installed but not shipped in any package:                                                                  
17:38.03woglindeNOTE:   /usr/lib/libudev.so                                                                                                                
17:38.06woglindeNOTE:   /usr/lib/libvolume_id.so                                                                                                          
17:38.10woglindeNOTE:   /usr/lib/pkgconfig/libudev.pc                                                                                                      
17:38.13woglindeNOTE:   /usr/lib/pkgconfig/libvolume_id.pc
17:39.22B_LizzardIt must be one of Martin's commits 8 days ago.
17:42.15B_LizzardIt must be this one http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=fba77bf1ca0257e3e795b9c514b3420fc9cf5fed
17:42.34B_LizzardHe added newer xext versions
17:42.57B_LizzardWhich get picked up no matter if or if you don't have preferred-xorg-versions-X11R7.5.inc
17:43.24B_LizzardI'm guessing he forgot to add corresponding libx11 and diet-x11 versions.
17:44.13B_LizzardOr, at least dietx11
17:44.20B_LizzardAs that what jlime uses.
17:44.34woglindeb_lizzard do you can make a patch?
17:44.53B_LizzardSure, if if the recipes don't change much
17:44.56B_LizzardLemme see.
17:45.16B_LizzardI'm not sure why we use diet-x11, it sucks.
17:45.20B_LizzardBut ehm
17:46.36woglindeb_lizzard space?
17:47.10B_LizzardWell, the devices we target aren't as space-challenged as they are memory-challenged
17:47.24B_LizzardBut libx11 proper isn't such a hog
17:47.54B_LizzardAnd damn me to hell if I can't have xkb on a machine with a proper laptop-like keyboard (Jornada)
17:47.56B_Lizzard:)
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18:11.13B_LizzardGenerally, is it good to require preferred-xorg-versions-X11R7.5.inc?
18:11.24B_LizzardYou said, for instance, that it is buggy.
18:11.37woglindehm seems jama fixed all
18:11.44woglindeso its a good idea
18:11.46B_Lizzard...and I see that Angstrom doesn't use that either.
18:11.57woglindeand it seems dietx is the fault
18:12.03B_LizzardYeah, I know.
18:12.11B_LizzardBut what about Angstrom not using the file?
18:12.15woglindeb_lizzard the "not invented here syndrom" for angstroem
18:12.21woglindeI guess
18:12.22B_LizzardI see ;)
18:12.48B_LizzardOh well.
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18:16.30JaMaB_Lizzard: not nihs imho.. but angstrom prefer always latest version available..
18:16.41JaMaB_Lizzard: and that is easier without any include
18:16.56woglindegit-native suckz with 4 gb of compile space
18:17.49JaMaB_Lizzard: I did the same in shr.conf, because I wanted pixman_git.bb and that is difficult to prefer if you have PREFERRED_VERSION_pn-pixman from some include then DEFAULT_PREFERRENCE wont help you..
18:18.18B_LizzardI see.
18:18.36B_LizzardWell, unless it proves troublesome, I'll just require it.
18:19.20woglindefuck
18:19.27woglindegit-native with angstroem over 7 gig tmp sapce
18:19.57khemwoglinde: ggdb3 :)
18:20.07woglindekhem yeah
18:20.15woglindeI hate it every time
18:20.47khemI dont understand -O2 and -ggdb3
18:21.06khemtwo conglicting things as far as gcc is concerned
18:21.30woglindekhem and gcc-4.4.2
18:21.40woglindemabyee 4.2 is smaller
18:21.54khemgcc 4.4.2 generates rich debug info
18:22.01khemgcc 4.2 is lame
18:22.39woglindebut the copying of over 7 gig suckz
18:22.46khemagrred
18:23.35khemI think gcc generates the info but how useful this will be is a question that remains to be seen
18:25.45khemsomething is pulling in external-toolchain-csl.bb hmmm
18:26.11woglindekhem which distro?
18:26.16woglindewhich image
18:26.20woglindebut I can bet which
18:26.24khemwoglinde: its my own crap
18:26.29pb__There's nothing particularly contradictory about having both -O2 and -ggdb3; it's legitimate to want to both optimize your program and debug it.  I'm not very sure that -ggdb3 is worthwhile in terms of space though, compared to -ggdb.
18:26.43woglindehm for native?
18:26.54woglindeits crazy koen
18:27.01khempb__: yes true however I wonder how useful it is
18:27.10khemas of now
18:27.21pb__yeah, personally I would stick at -O2 -ggdb.
18:27.31khemin an ideal compiler it should generate best debug info for best optimized code
18:29.46pb__indeed, and gcc is actually pretty close to ideal in that respect: -g and -O are pretty much independent.
18:30.10pb__obviously the more optimisation you have, the harder it gets to debug, but adding -g shouldn't cause you to get worse code.
18:30.13khempb__: there are certain opts which are harsh on debugging and some not so we could hatch out an option set which has opts yet is suitable for debugging
18:30.48khempb__: no gcc loses a lot of information with many opt phases
18:31.09khemthat it can not generate correct debug info
18:32.20pb__anyway, each distro can choose the set of cflags that works best for them.  if angstrom wants to use -ggdb3 then they are, obviously, welcome to do so.
18:33.48khemnods
18:35.17khemwoglinde: I had inadvertently changes += for a PREFERREED_PRVIDED to = in my local conf
18:35.36khemand that caused the stuff to go awry
18:35.53woglindekhem abiword is problem for uclibc
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18:36.50khemwoglinde: hmmm what happens ?
18:37.10woglindelook at the recipe
18:37.41woglindehm ah not abiword
18:37.45woglindewas the office programm
18:38.00khempb__: I am getting gcc 4.5/svn to work well then I would like to test LTO in OE
18:38.21pb__yeah, that would be interesting
18:38.39khemwoglinde: qemu is such a nice thing
18:38.42pb__I'm not sure that gold works well enough yet to do that on arm, but it would be worth a try for x86.
18:39.13khempb__: yeah gold is good on x86 as well as x86_64
18:39.13woglindekhem hm some of the gnome office suite drags in libc locales packages
18:39.23khemyuck
18:39.51khemwoglinde: doesnt it have some knobs to say I dont want locales
18:40.12khemhaving said that office might be a little too much for uclibc :)
18:40.43khemI would stop at firefox beyond that its too big a ask for such a small library
18:41.14woglindewahahaha I thought the strip git-native bug was fixed
18:41.17GNUtoo|oeeewoglinde, ah you're fixing abiword too?
18:41.33woglindegnutoo no
18:41.48GNUtoo|oeeeah ok
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18:44.58GNUtoobtw does someone has a clue about fixing all theses dolt thing
18:45.04GNUtooor should I write to the ml?
18:45.15woglindegnutoo hm which package it was?
18:45.23khemGNUtoo: whats wrong with it ?
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18:45.58khemoh you mentioned yesterday ..
18:46.07GNUtookhem, it fallbacks on "libtool" instead of "i686-angstrom-libtool"
18:46.09woglindere kgilmer
18:46.21woglindegnutoo hm
18:46.31woglindeI looked at the m4 code
18:46.37woglindeshouldnt be that hard to fix
18:47.03khemGNUtoo: that would be dolt not knowing/caring cross builds
18:47.13GNUtoook
18:47.34GNUtoobut I bet they include the m4 in the source of the package
18:47.35GNUtoono?
18:48.20JaMakhem: as you're talking about low level stuff, I noticed info about "LIBM_BIG Option Group" in recent eglibc... what do you think about that?
18:49.20GNUtoo./abiword-2.8.1/dolt.m4
18:50.21khemJaMa: I have local patches to make eglibc configurable here
18:51.40khemJaMa: I think its useful for many embedded systems who do not care so much about floating point precision
18:51.45JaMaI haven't checked how many apps are using double precision where single precision would be enough.. but I guess that it could be also a bit faster on arm? not only because of smaller libc..
18:52.42khemyes I think so
18:53.30JaMabut I guess its not so different as using integer based math instead of double (ie when using tremor instead of libvorbis for ogg decoding)
18:54.06khemI think it will be somewhere in middle
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18:59.07GNUtoo|oeeeno it replaces it
19:00.54khemI think if added to libtool there should be no need to add it to packages ideally
19:02.33GNUtoo|oeeebasically -DOLT fixes it but if too much recipes start using it (I identified 3 but they are hard to identify) patching them is not very productive
19:04.12GNUtoo|oeeeand they ship dolt.m4 inside the sources of each packages
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19:19.34woglindehm opkg needs a fix for micro too
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19:26.02pb__what's wrong with it?
19:26.35pb__micro doesn't use O_P_M so opkg is largely irrelevant; it only needs to work for image construction
19:28.31woglindehm oh?
19:28.53woglindeipkg is used?
19:29.16woglindeor shouldnt you be able to install stuff?
19:34.12pb__there's no support for installing new packages on a running system.
19:34.25woglindeokay
19:34.43woglindewondered why opkg got installed
19:34.49pb__it shouldn't.
19:34.53woglindemaybee my fault for the image
19:34.59pb__if opkg is landing in your rootfs then that would be a bug somewhere.
19:35.34khema recipe_git.bb defines PV=x.y+svnr${SRCPV} now how can I choose it in PREFERRED_VERSION for that package ?
19:35.41khemin my local.conf
19:36.57hrwre
19:37.33pb__patch it to stop using SRCPV and then set P_V appropriately :-}
19:37.43pb__or, alternatively, if you can predict what SRCPV will come out as, you are all set.
19:38.16woglindejo hrw
19:38.17khemyeah I will hardcode it
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19:46.11woglindedman why bitbake not respect my BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE = "CCACHE_DIR"
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20:32.07khemhmmm I can not call mpc for http://www.multiprecision.org/
20:32.23khembecause we already have a recipe for musicpd/mpc
20:32.34khemrenames to libmpc
20:33.23khembtw. we have mpfr and gmp recipes I think they could also be renamed to libmpfr and libgmp
20:33.57khemthey are libraries only so prefixing lib is not such a bad idea
20:34.41pb__maybe, but the tarball is named "mpfr-x.x.x.tar.gz" and the project calls itself MPFR.
20:35.40pb__debian also names the source package "mpfr", not libmpfr, though I guess that is not a very strong argument.
20:36.25khemmpc is also named mpc-x.x.tar
20:36.46khembut there is naming clash musicpd/mpc existed before
20:37.56khempb__: opensuse and mandriva prefix them with lib :)
20:38.13khemfor now
20:38.14khemI will leave them as it is
20:38.20khemonly change mpc
20:38.23khemto libmpc
20:38.55pb__that sounds best.  renaming an existing package is a fairly disruptive thing to do, I don't think it would be a good idea to do that just because you can.
20:39.09khemyep agreed
20:39.15pb__obviously that doesn't apply to new packages, so renaming mpc is fine
20:39.46khemright I did not hit this until I built target gcc
20:40.08khembecause cross gcc just depended on mpc-native and that name was unique
20:40.37khemFedora's naming is like OE, they have mpfr gmp and libmpc
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21:19.33hrwre
21:20.05hrwlooks like Guo Hongruan generated lot of noise on OEML
21:20.06woglindere hrw
21:20.18woglindehrw jupp
21:20.37woglindedo you know him?
21:20.45hrwnope
21:22.18khemHi hrw
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21:24.08hrwwoglinde: anyway it is much easier to filter OEML - just marked all threads started by that guy as read
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21:57.09florianhrw: Did you get my mail about ltg planet?
21:57.40hrwflorian: got it, did not had a time to check
21:57.50hrwflorian: feed validator says that all is ok
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22:06.47sakoman_has anyone here attempted to use ts_lib in your image after the recent xorg version bump?
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22:23.54GNUtoosakoman_, yes I have it on the bug + on the htcdream
22:24.01GNUtooxf86-input-tslib
22:24.12GNUtoobe shure to use the last version
22:25.10sakoman_let me check to see which version of xf86-input-tslib is being used
22:26.23sakoman_0.0.6-r7
22:29.11GNUtoothat should be fine
22:29.19GNUtoowhat's the problem exactly?
22:29.57sakoman_on first boot I get a black screen with blinking cursor after the ts_calibrate
22:30.20sakoman_seems to hang somewhere in the Xinits
22:30.41GNUtooah ok
22:30.47sakoman_if I reboot from the console the boot completes and I get a normal gpe screen
22:31.05GNUtoogpe??? I thought you were doing some gnome work
22:31.21sakoman_but the ts_lib input is bad -- almost seems like it is taking relative inout rather than absolute
22:31.34sakoman_one of the images for gumstix is gpe based
22:31.40GNUtoook
22:31.45GNUtooI'll boot and look
22:31.47sakoman_for their lcd based products
22:31.52GNUtoook
22:32.16sakoman_running ts_test from the command line shows perfect calibration
22:32.36sakoman_so it is som mismatch between latest xorg stuff and tslib
22:34.17GNUtoosakoman_, ah so it's not xorg.conf?
22:34.17sakoman_I'm using the same xorg.cong I've been using for the last year or so
22:34.17GNUtoohere's htcdream config: http://pastebin.com/m6e97f680
22:34.17GNUtooah ok
22:34.18GNUtoommm
22:34.25GNUtooI did ts_calibrate and it worked for me
22:35.12GNUtooelse if you didn't do rm_work you can do man /path/to/the/tslib/man/file to look
22:35.19sakoman_prior to this I didn't have a "InputDevice" section -- things "just worked" :-)
22:35.19GNUtoomaybe they changed some option
22:35.31GNUtooI'll look my xorg version
22:35.35GNUtoommm
22:35.51GNUtooso you used xorg before?
22:35.58sakoman_yes, for years
22:36.18sakoman_(seems like anyway)
22:36.45GNUtoohttp://pastebin.com/m5405ea2d seem sufficient for bug
22:36.47GNUtoommm
22:37.01sakoman_this broke with the version bump from 1.6.1 to 1.7.3
22:37.04GNUtooelse you could look in the logs
22:37.05GNUtoook
22:37.13GNUtooXorg.log.0 or something like that
22:37.48GNUtooI bet I'm not realy helpfull
22:37.50sakoman_yeah, I tried an "InputDevice" section much like that -- didn't help :-(
22:38.01GNUtooyes but you need to activate it
22:38.07GNUtoolike that:
22:38.49GNUtoohttp://pastebin.com/m15cf297e
22:39.03GNUtoobut the key thing is to look into the logs
22:39.11GNUtooit should tell you how it is recognized
22:39.21sakoman_right, I did that :-)
22:39.29GNUtooand found nothing...:(
22:39.30sakoman_ah, a clue in the log :-)
22:39.35GNUtooah ok
22:39.50sakoman_(EE) Failed to load module "tslib" (module requirement mismatch, 0)
22:39.54GNUtooalso if you have corepointer....
22:39.57GNUtooouch
22:40.02GNUtoook
22:40.12GNUtooI'll check xorg versions
22:40.31sakoman_I see the issue!
22:40.36GNUtooah no I've an old xorg
22:40.37GNUtoosorry
22:40.58sakoman_the version bump did not trigger rebuilds of the xf86 stuff
22:41.13sakoman_they are still compiled for 1.6.1 :-(
22:41.21GNUtoobut on the other device: X.Org X Server 1.7.3
22:41.28GNUtoook
22:41.37sakoman_so perhaps just manually forcing a rebuild will do the trick for me
22:41.37GNUtooand it works on the 1.7.3 device
22:41.48GNUtoommm
22:41.55GNUtoomaybe there are other things than PR
22:42.00GNUtoolike inc_PR or similar
22:42.20GNUtooI never had to use them...so I don't know how they work
22:43.08sakoman_for the record, here is the error you get when you have 1.7.3 xorg and older xf86 stuff: http://pastebin.com/m7f327eeb
22:43.44GNUtoook
22:44.08GNUtooback to fixing abiword then
22:44.13sakoman_:-)
22:44.16sakoman_good luck!
22:44.35GNUtoothanks
22:44.39GNUtoobut it's quite simple
22:44.42GNUtoothere are 3 issues:
22:44.55GNUtooone with a program generating cflags and similar
22:45.00GNUtoois fixed locally
22:45.08GNUtooone for dolt
22:45.27GNUtooone for the plugins becuase we do not run autogen.sh
22:45.43GNUtoo(autogen.sh runs a custom script which I'll import and run)
22:45.53GNUtooso no collab etc...
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23:11.17GNUtoommm maybe we could teach to remove DOLT to a class?
23:11.57woglindegnutoo abiword is using dolt?
23:12.04GNUtoos/a class/autotools.bbclass
23:12.05GNUtooyes
23:12.12GNUtoo3 packages identified so far
23:12.17GNUtooI bet there are more
23:12.25woglinderemove just the marco invokation in configure.in/ac
23:12.30woglindethat should be enough
23:12.34GNUtoothe 2.8.1 is using it
23:12.39woglindenormal libtoll should take over
23:12.44GNUtooyes that's I wanted to do
23:12.47woglindeas far as I read dolt.m4
23:12.53GNUtoobut my question was where to do it
23:13.09GNUtooif I do it in autotools.bbclass is it ok(would need review)
23:13.25GNUtooand the fix work(removing DOLT)
23:14.41woglindeno
23:14.47woglindeplease fix per recipe
23:15.06woglindeyou dont know the software uses dolt
23:15.29GNUtoosed ?
23:16.11GNUtoowhat I'm afraid is if every autotool based program start using dolt
23:16.15woglindewhat is dolt is used in a private .m4 file?
23:16.21woglindeno
23:18.18GNUtoook thanks a lot
23:18.42GNUtooI'll patch or sed inside the recipe themselves and not in autotools.bbclass
23:18.51woglindewhy sed?
23:18.55woglindeI would make a patch
23:19.05GNUtoook I'll make a patch
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