IRC log for #oe on 20100420

00:03.29playya_there's EVAS_CPU_TWEAKS in the svn recipe
00:03.41playya_let me check where i have to set it
00:03.54Tartarusraster: Shouldn't it be runtime checks for the right features?
00:05.45rasterTartarus: there are runtiime checks
00:06.36rasterevas's configure auto-enables the neon code if $host_cpu is armv7*
00:06.45rasteru can --enable it yourself otherwise
00:06.56raster(if you know your compiler will nor barf at neon asm)
00:07.09rasterand at runtime neon is detected jjust like mmx/sse etc.
00:07.27rasterand if u have a working neon instructionset - the neon ops are used
00:07.32rasterotherwise the c fallbacks are
00:07.46raster(and the fallbacks are not to be sniffed at either)
00:08.05rastertho the new neon code is seeing in real life 50-100% speedups
00:08.15rastersome tests get more than 300% speedups
00:08.21rastersome - very little.
00:08.36rasteraverage speedup for exepdite test suite seems about 20%
00:11.01playya_speedupds are always useful
00:11.12playya_btw. do you own a palm pre?
00:11.16rasternup
00:11.30rastercan't justify getting it
00:11.32rastertoo expensive
00:11.40rasternothing new
00:11.48raster(already have an n900)
00:12.10raster(and have other much better hardware that runs e like a silky smooth babies bottom)
00:13.44playya_link or did not happen :P
00:13.55rasterprototypes
00:13.57rasterno links
00:13.58raster:)
00:14.01playya_i know
00:14.17playya_just tried to get some pictures of the phone :D
00:14.37rasterbut its the same guts as the samsung galaxy s
00:14.49rasteru can find links for that
00:14.56rasteror the samsung wave
00:15.41playya_now samsung seems to use 3 distributions for there smartphone?
00:15.51playya_bada, android and ... yours
00:15.58rasterwinmo too
00:16.03rasterand symbian
00:16.31rastersamsung ships linux phones (360 h1 and m1 on vodafone)
00:16.50playya_damn even more.
00:16.55rasterbada is not an os as such - its a middleware layer on top of nucleus (rtos)
00:17.05rasterand isnt shipping yet last i knew
00:17.11playya_the pyneo guys are working on the h1
00:18.15raster:)
00:18.17rasterthere u go
00:18.35rastertho thats a major gtk based thing
00:18.39rasterits also older
00:18.52rasterother than that i cant say too much
00:18.53raster:)
00:21.54playya_pyneo is based on efl, afaik they're using some parts of paroli, too
00:22.44rasteryeah - know that. they'd have to build efl for it
00:22.49rasterbut thats perfectly easy enough to do
00:23.46playya_hehe. yes. josch told me that it lasts 4 days
00:23.58rasterlasts 4 days?
00:27.04playya_to build EFL on a freerunner
00:27.19rasterugh!
00:27.23playya_debian only accepts native builds
00:27.34rasteryou build it ON a freeruner
00:27.35rastergod help
00:27.44rasteri've bui;t efel onmy smartq5
00:27.49rasterthats a s3c6410
00:27.56raster530mhz
00:28.00raster(armv6)
00:28.19rasterand that takes a good day to build (didnt time - maybe 8-12hrs)
00:28.36rasterbut a freerunner - thats nuts
00:29.10rasterfreerunenr is like using a horse & cart to go to work where everyone else is driving sports cars :)
00:29.20rasterpoor bastard
00:32.13rasteralphaone: daaaan!
00:32.52alphaonehey raster
00:37.14CIA-203Andrea Adami <andrea.adami@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rae8e15aede 10openembedded.git/recipes/zaurus-utils/zaurus-updater/updater.sh: zaurus-updater: remove forgotten todo and split the version check
00:47.59kergoththinks about just going ahead and pushing the oelib bits without extensive email threads, since it doesn't change behavior, just reorgs
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01:50.16CIA-203Chris Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r4e58c37e7d 10openembedded.git/classes/signature.bbclass:
01:50.16CIA-2Add initial signature.bbclass, which generates a hash of the recipe data
01:50.16CIA-2If the datastore has a 'hash' method, it will use that, otherwise it uses its
01:50.16CIA-2own implementation. Datastore hashing will be added to bitbake master at some
01:50.17CIA-2point, to prepare for the move away from stamps.
01:50.17CIA-2Signed-off-by: Chris Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com>
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02:04.17william_zhanghi,all, the executed file that oe build is too large, how to reduce it? tks
02:10.02mwesterrm ?
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02:17.43william_zhangthe executed file with oe build is too large
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06:03.31CIA-203Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r6689cb4cc2 10openembedded.git/recipes/shr/frameworkd-config-shr_git.bb: frameworkd-config-shr: bump SRCREV
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06:10.33Spyzerhi everyone, i am trying to emulate opie-image by qemu. I have done a bitbake opie-image for machine-qemuarm and distro=angstrom
06:10.58Spyzerbut as soon as I try to emulate the .ext3 image generated qemu return an error as to unknown parameter
06:11.04Spyzerplease help me out here
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06:24.14tsjsiebgoodmorning
06:30.16CIA-203Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rd37850fd54 10openembedded.git/recipes/zaurus-utils/zaurus-updater.bb: zaurus-update: add back PACKAGE_ARCH = "${MACHINE_ARCH}" otherwise you'll miss out on gnu-tar for multi-machine builds where spitz isn't first
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07:15.07CIA-203Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r5453d2a893 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/multi-kernel.inc: multi-kernel: update depends after kernel.bbclass changes
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08:02.35mikcHi, I am working on this problem, http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded/32076. What could cause curl to choose the system linker and not the cross linker when the .o files are normally cross-compiled for ARM ? Does anybody else have the same problem ?
08:04.03mikcmore complete do_install log : http://pastebin.org/161245
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08:38.09mckoangood morning
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08:46.29floriangood morning
08:47.53hrwhi
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09:02.14ao2hi, I'd like to ask something about /etc/device_tables it looks like it does not contain stuff specified in IMAGE_DEVICE_TABLES, is that right?
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09:06.11ao2IIUC, IMAGE_DEVICE_TABLES is used to populate /dev when building the rootfs, but on boot makedevs overrides that picking up stuff from /etc/device_table. The question is, shouldn't /etc/device_table modified following what's in IMAGE_DEVICE_TABLES too?
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09:40.03ao2ah there is an issue already about that: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3593
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10:02.01vpsHej!  When building initramfs-image.bb the directory /sys isn't created and therefore sysfs nmounted and udev not started.  Where should /sys be created in this case?
10:02.21vpsWhen building full-featured images /sys is created in base-files
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10:04.52MWelchUKI've built x11-gpe-image for the h5000, I have it loaded, but X isn't starting. I can start it via the serial console and even load apps, but the touch screen doesn't seem to be functioning. Can anyone point me in the direction that I will need to look in to get the touch screen working?
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11:04.44CIA-203Sergey Lapin <slapin@ossfans.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc2df527b55 10openembedded.git/recipes/sysklogd/ (files/sysklogd sysklogd.inc): sysklogd: installing init script
11:07.14nlCortanahi, when i'm in {OETREE}/openembedded git pull is up to date, but git pull --rebase tells me linux 2.6.28.bb needs an update
11:07.24nlCortanawhats the command to update this?
11:07.55floriannlCortana: hi
11:08.23nlCortanahi
11:08.29florianThis means you changed the file and you would have to check it in and update it in Git.
11:08.45florianBut you can handle local changes with Git too:
11:08.56florian"git stash" saves these changes
11:09.07nlCortanaaha, hmm it wasnt really me who changed it, but friend helped me for adding machine support and indeed overided it
11:09.10florianthen you should be able to rebase
11:09.40florianafter this you get your local changes back with "git stash apply"
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11:28.06hrwMWelchUK: h5000? thats old...
11:28.38MWelchUKYeah - got one lying around, got nowt else to do with it :-)
11:29.18MWelchUKPlus it has a screen, a touch screen at that, unlike just about any other target I've used.
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11:34.18CIA-203Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r356e71b1a7 10openembedded.git/recipes/shr/shr-launcher_svn.bb: shr-launcher: bump SRCREV
11:38.57CIA-203Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r7bdb604776 10openembedded.git/classes/angstrom-mirrors.bbclass: angstrom mirrors: fix regression introduced by http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/bitbake/commit/?h=1.10&id=11375c3f74511ce59ad5a625bfda4121a8714345
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11:55.03gilligan_hi
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11:57.45gilligan_i'm looking for some stable ARM target with proper X support that will work fine under qemu ? (I need something as an example for a seminar) Any suggestions are much appreciated :) I'm rather flexible as you can tell
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12:27.44mckoanhrw: qemuarm + X working? hmmm....
12:30.47hrwmckoan: I do not know current state but it was working when last time I used it
12:33.35gilligan_is git.openembedded.org super slow or is it just me ? only get like 30kb/sec
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12:38.55mckoangilligan_: in EU is quite normal
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12:47.08gilligan_mckoan, x_X
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12:56.32CIA-203Sebastian Spaeth <Sebastian@SSpaeth.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r4321d61d1e 10openembedded.git/recipes/shr/ (libphone-ui-shr_git.bb libphone-ui_git.bb):
12:56.32CIA-2libphone-ui*: bump to recent version
12:56.33CIA-2to catch up with recent EFL changes
12:56.33CIA-2Signed-off-by: Sebastian Spaeth <Sebastian@SSpaeth.de>
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13:36.51eric__hi, when trying to build linux 2.6.33 for x86, I met a problem at staging. I sent a fix : http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded/32081 which seems to fix the problem. May you please check this is the right thing to do ?
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14:43.59Jin^eLDI know it's very much off topic, if someone to flash-program something using the freescale usb tap thingie, please /msg me :>
14:44.07Jin^eLDaem, succeeded that is
14:51.02nlCortana__hi, im trying to build something with oe, but is seems like bitbake searches for the frong toolchain. It is searching for arm-none-linux-gnueabi, but it needs arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi. How to change this
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14:57.24svolpeI'm building u-boot_2009.8 and I'm getting a ld error.  It seems that the arm-oe-linux-gnueabi-ld linker does not like the -Wl option as if I removed it from LDFLAGS in the compile script u-boot links with no issues.  How can I remove the -Wl perminantly from the u-boot LDFLAGS?
14:58.36svolpewhen I say compile script I'm refering to temp/run.do_compile.xxxx
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15:01.53svolpeis it safe just to remove it from conf/bitbake.conf LDFLAGS or will that break other packages?
15:05.02Tartarussvolpe: it sounds like there's a problem with u-boot's Makefiles
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15:08.37svolpeTartarus: well even if I do arm-oe-linux-gnueabi-ld -Wl from the command line it tells me its not a valid option for LD
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15:14.09kergothsvolpe: -Wl is a gcc argument, to pass arguments along to ld.  the LDFLAGS from the bitbake metadata is expected to be given to gcc to link, not ld directly
15:15.20svolpekergoth: thank you, so that is why Tartarus said its probably an issue with the u-boot makefile
15:20.34svolpekergoth Tartarus thanks, I think I found the offending line in the main u-boot Makefile.  I will patch it and give it a go.
15:24.35MWelchUKThe xmodmaps seem to be being placed in /etc/X11, but /etc/X11/Xinit.d/12keymap expects them in /etc/X11/xmodmaps
15:24.56MWelchUKx11-image build for h5000
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15:39.41kergothsvolpe: indeed.  good luck with it :)
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16:07.04svolpeI have identified the offending code in the u-boot makefile but I'm not having any luck fixing it.  Here is the offending code: http://pastebin.com/zvw82Bkh  I would appriciate any ideas anyone may have.
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16:37.35midnight1111_looking for "ant"
16:38.08midnight1111_I have succesfully built openembedded and generated several images for the beagleboard
16:38.45midnight1111_I am looking for a doc on how to install the images on an sd card to boot them....
16:38.52midnight1111_any help is appreciated
16:41.10TartarusTry #beagle
16:41.58midnight1111_Tartarus:  tried beagle no luck there...
16:41.59svolpemidnight1111_: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#MMC.2FSD_boot
16:43.30midnight1111_svolpe: thx been through that web page... the websites all have instructions for pre-built images...
16:44.09midnight1111_I am after how to take some images just after a build and install them on an sd card "copy <file> to <file> on the sd card"
16:45.25svolpemidnight1111_: do you mean copy the rootfs or a file system image?
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16:46.21midnight1111_svolpe:  so the list of files in my /stuff/build/tmp/deploy/glibc/images/om-gta01 directory include several .tar.gz rootfs and base-image files
16:46.41midnight1111_I want to copy these to the equivalent files on the sd card to boot the beagle board
16:47.46midnight1111_uImage-om-gta01-latest.bin  probably goes to uImage.bin on the sd card
16:48.34midnight1111_then I still have modules-2.6.24-oe5+gitrfb42ce6724576fc173faf8abfb04aa2c36d213b7-r1-om-gta01.tgz, base-image-om-gta01.tar.gz, and Angstrom-base-image-glibc-ipk-2010.4-test-20100415-om-gta01-testlab
16:49.08midnight1111_and Angstrom-base-image-glibc-ipk-2010.4-test-20100415-om-gta01.rootfs.tar.gz  which looks like the rootfs.bin file
16:49.28svolpewell then I recommend setting up an ext2/3 partition on the sd card, copy the rootfs over to that card and then pass the kernel the root=/dev/'whateveryoursdcardpartis'
16:51.08Spyzerhi all, i did a bitbake opie-image for qemuarm MACHINE and DISTRO angstrom but when i am following the steps mentioned at http://linuxtogo.org/gowiki/Angstrom/qemu-system-arm I am getting this error
16:51.15Spyzerqemu: unknown parameter '�' in 'Angstrom-opie-image-glibc-ipk-2010.4-test-20100420-qemuarm.rootfs.ext3
16:51.17Spyzerplease help
16:58.38Spyzerumm... anyone
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17:19.57Spyzerplease help me out anyone
17:25.02GNUtooSpyzer, maybe instead of copy-pasting the wiki,try to type the command
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17:35.52Spyzer../qemu-system-arm -M versatilepb -usb -usbdevice wacom-tablet -show-cursor -m 64 -kernel zImage-2.6.25+2.6.26-rc4-r6-qemuarm.bin -drive Angstrom-opie-image-glibc-ipk-2010.4-test-20100419-qemuarm.rootfs.ext3 -append "root=/dev/sda rw"
17:36.03Spyzerthis is the command @GNUtoo
17:36.43GNUtooSpyzer, does it work now?
17:37.16Spyzerno it is not working it is always giving the same error i mentioned above/earlier
17:37.20GNUtooSpyzer, or I've another solution
17:37.30Spyzeryes please
17:37.34GNUtoorename Angstrom-opie-image-glibc-ipk-2010.4-test-20100419-qemuarm.rootfs.ext3 to something simplier
17:38.20GNUtoobecause '�' is an unknown character
17:38.39GNUtoojust to be shure we understand each other,in my IRC client '�' appears as '?'
17:39.25Spyzeri did that earliere and now too, i renamed it to opie-angstrom.ext3 and now am getting the same error qemu: unknown parameter '?' in 'Angstrom-opie-image-glibc-ipk-2010.4-test-20100420-qemuarm.rootfs.ext3
17:39.38Spyzeroh sorry
17:39.48Spyzerqemu: unknown parameter '�' in 'opie-angstrom.ext3'
17:39.54Spyzerthis is the new one after renaming
17:40.05GNUtoommm strange
17:40.31GNUtooyou have a strange character somewhere,you must track it
17:41.04Spyzerdo you think it has something to do with a possible machine and distro combination, earlier when it ran i actually gave DISTRO=minimal and machine=qemuarm
17:41.19Spyzernow  qemuarm MACHINE and DISTRO angstrom
17:41.29mr_niceuse -drive file=
17:41.36mr_nicehttp://linuxtogo.org/gowiki/Angstrom/qemu-system-arm
17:42.47Spyzerman i cannot believe that was the error
17:43.01mr_nice:)
17:43.14Spyzerthanks a lot
17:43.17Spyzer:)
17:43.38mr_niceno problem I use qemu a lot to test images
17:44.07Spyzerso have u created any customized images of your own too???
17:44.32mr_nicekind of
17:45.03mr_nicejust have a look at images and tasks dirs
17:45.38mr_nicethe manual also explains it quite well
17:46.00Spyzerok well if u can review this...
17:46.03SpyzerIMAGE_INSTALL = "qtehelloworld"
17:46.05SpyzerRDEPENDS = "qte"
17:46.05Spyzerrequire base-image.bb
17:46.05Spyzerinherit image
17:46.17Spyzerwhere qtehelloworld is a recipe created by me
17:46.26Spyzerwhich bitbakes fine enough
17:46.55Spyzerso do u think an image will  be created which has support for qte and has the application and can run it too
17:47.15gilligan_can anyone suggest me some arm machine that builds fine with angstrom/X and also works fine with qemu ?
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17:48.22mr_niceSpyzer: sorry I don't know it
17:49.08Spyzerwell if u can just tell that if using the rdepends variable, will that install all the qte runtime libraries in the created image??
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17:51.24gilligan_oh.. there's qemuarm.conf .. that should do then ;-)
17:52.27CIA-203Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r15188a35e2 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/angstrom-2008-preferred-versions.inc: angstrom: prefer xserver-common 1.33
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17:52.48mr_niceSpyzer: I don't know it. I allways put them also to the image install. someone else migth know the answer
17:53.02Spyzeroh ok :)
17:53.18mr_nicebut it might be not a clean solution at all
17:53.30Spyzerclean??
17:53.35mr_nicebest would be to ask at the mailing list
17:55.07mr_nicewith clean I wanted to say the best way to do it
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18:16.56khemgm to all
18:18.15kergoth_hey khem
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18:24.38florianre
18:27.17khemkergoth_: hey
18:27.33khembeen tired of flying for last 48 hours
18:27.46khemthese volcano's are not helpful :)
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18:34.05floriankhem: oops
18:34.14woglinde_jo
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18:48.42khemflorian: I was to fly into Munich from Dubai but they cancelled it and packed me on a 16 hour flight to toronto
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18:49.06woglinde_jo khem
18:49.17khemand then I had to wait there for another 10 hours to get on a flight to San fransisco
18:49.21woglinde_khem where are you now?
18:49.43khemwoglinde_: heh I have reached in valley no more transits :)
18:50.04floriankhem: heh... oh well. Toronto instead of Munich... that's quite a difference :-)
18:56.00kergoth_sheesh, just found 5 different places in bitbake itself where it was requested an expanded version of a non-string bitbake internal variable
18:56.03kergoth_sad
18:56.33kergoth_wait, no, more than 5 now
18:57.11kergoth_is experimenting with teaching expand to str(value) instead of choking on non-string
18:57.15woglinde_kergoth still at cleanup?
18:58.14kergoth_on occasion, its a good background task
18:58.57kergoth_these angstrom bluez/fso-apm/libiconv messages can bite me.
19:08.08kergoth_and here's a few expand()s on None.. hrmph
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19:20.49kergoth_hrmph.. MIRRORS/PREMIRRORS is nicely flexible, but what crappy usability.. i wonder how we could improve that interface for the user
19:22.28kergoth_SRC_TARBALL_STASH was certainly easier to use than the new method, if less flexible
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20:08.02mekoniakHi all. Have a question regarding how Bitbake creates packages.  I'm specifically looking at the omniorb recipe.  It was my understanding that the packages created are controlled by the PACKAGES variable, and that the files packaged are controlled by FILES_ However, the recipe I'm looking at doesn't have a PACKAGES variable but still creates -dev, -dbg, and -static packages. Where would this be specified?
20:08.27kergoth_read conf/bitbake.conf
20:08.38kergoth_global config metadata flows into the recipes, including things like FILES and PACKAGES
20:08.54kergoth_also, bitbake -e is helpful
20:09.03kergoth_bitbake -e omniorb|grep \^FILES_
20:09.07kergoth_bitbake -e omniorb|grep \^PACKAGES
20:10.05mekoniakcool. thanks kergoth!
20:10.09kergoth_np
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20:10.35kergoth_note that classes are free to manipulate those variables too.  bitbake -e will show you the final values, as used in the build
20:12.37mekoniakwhen I add items to my IMAGE_INSTALL variable, do I list packages there then? I was thinking it was recipe names, but then I only get the base package included with my image.
20:12.58kergoth_yes, IMAGE_INSTALL controls what binary packages get installed into an image, and PACKAGES controls what binary packages are emitted.
20:13.05kergoth_recipes aren't installed in an image
20:13.07kergoth_packages are
20:13.35mekoniakmakes perfect sense!
20:13.36mekoniakthx
20:13.38kergoth_np
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21:27.10kergoth_hrm
21:27.13kergoth_grumbles
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21:34.55ao2JaMa|Opera, I found a pastebin of your with the same problem i am experiencing: http://www.google.it/search?q=%22build/lib.linux-x86_64-2.6%22%20wrong%20ELF%20class%3A%20ELFCLASS32 did you solve it any way?
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21:38.12kergoth_hmmmmm
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21:55.55khemao2: seems like its failing to detect the host system type
21:56.00khemwhich package is it ?
21:56.20khemlibffi ?
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22:06.03JaMa|Zzzzao2: that google result of mine returns "That is an invalid ID, or the post has expired." and from yours I don't recognize that problem :/
22:06.31JaMa|Zzzzao2: so maybe it wasn't pastebined by me.. or it's really old
22:06.49khemJaMa|Zzzz: http://ja.pastebin.ca/1869784
22:07.56JaMa|Zzzzah so it's the same as ao2's version
22:09.30JaMa|Zzzzthen this is what was enough to resolve it back then http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=a070023d0d3c1af845dd41703a8419af818d70f3
22:10.09JaMa|Zzzzand it's still used in 2.6.4 as it was in 2.6.2
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22:13.51CIA-203Andrea Adami <andrea.adami@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * re9ec37937e 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
22:13.51CIA-2zaurus-2.6.inc: merge the jffs2 bits from zaurus-clamshells.inc.
22:13.51CIA-2* remove the legacy headers needed for vanilla Sharp images.
22:13.51CIA-2* (the checksum was anyway broken)
22:14.00CIA-203Andrea Adami <andrea.adami@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rde4a5bc6f2 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/include/ (zaurus-2.6.inc zaurus-kernel.inc):
22:14.00CIA-2zaurus-2.6.inc: reorder common Zaurus settings.
22:14.00CIA-2* reabsorb zaurus-kernel.inc
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22:28.54ao2JaMa|Zzzz, here's the full log: http://people.openezx.org/ao2/tmp/log.do_configure.31040 _ctypes is ntill not compiled for me...
22:29.29ao2ah sorry: http://people.openezx.org/ao2/tmp/log.do_compile.4827
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22:31.45khemao2: python for target is using libffi from build doesnt sound good to me
22:32.13khemao2: it should use libffi compiled for target i.e. arm in your case
22:32.22ao2khem, sure not, but I don't know how to fix that
22:32.27khemif you can figure it our why
22:32.30khemah
22:32.47khemit should be easy go through the config.logs
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22:37.44khemkergoth_: ERROR: no recipe files to build, check your BBPATH and BBFILES?
22:37.56khemafter updating to latest on master
22:38.15khemnothing else is changed in my env I am still following same steps as I used to
22:38.27khemand BBPATH is set correctly.
22:38.32khemany hints ?
22:44.59kergoth_khem: using collections i assume?  Add require conf/collections.inc to your local.conf
22:45.15kergoth_it was an oe change, not a bitbake one, collections.inc isn't included by default now
22:45.23kergoth_due to interference with the bblayers stuff
22:45.49khemah
22:47.43khemthx kergoth_ now its parsing 2 weeks is enough to get outdated in OE world :)
22:47.49kergoth_:)
22:47.51kergoth_np
22:47.57kergoth_been playing around with setup using bblayers, its nice
22:48.01kergoth_just cd into your area, bitbake
22:48.04kergoth_no env vars necessary
22:48.14khemhmmm seems nice
22:48.27khemis bblayers a replacement for collections
22:48.38khemor a suppliment
22:50.13kergoth_collections is easier to set up, slightly, but bblayers has other advantages.  tradeoffs, atm
22:50.20kergoth_definitely one or the other
22:50.30kergoth_bblayers has more boilerplate necessary, but works nice once you have it set up
22:50.35kergoth_not just one var like collections
22:50.41khemah I see
22:50.48khemhttp://www.mail-archive.com/bitbake-dev@lists.berlios.de/msg00716.html
22:50.51khemI will read it
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22:51.58kergoth_khem: check out http://github.com/kergoth/OE-BBLayers
22:52.02kergoth_khem: example setup
22:53.15khemah nice
22:56.21khemkergoth_: How would I include my own overlay in your example
22:56.33khemis BBLAYERS a list ?
22:56.36kergoth_add it to BBLAYERS and give it a conf/layer.conf like the oe one
22:56.37kergoth_yep
22:57.10khemlist separated by :
22:57.12kergoth_you see what i mean about the setup.. if you want the bitbake priority handling for dealing with recipes in both overlays, you'll need to uncomment the BBFILE bits in the layer.confs
22:57.15kergoth_space separated
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22:57.29khemhmm ok
22:59.46khemkergoth_: now I dont have to export BBPATH
22:59.53kergoth_yep
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22:59.57kergoth_just need to make sure bitbake is in your path
23:00.02kergoth_i did that in my ~/.profile
23:00.27kergoth_it searches up the tree to find conf/bblayers.conf, so as long as you're within your build area, you can bake away
23:00.52khemconf/bblayers.conf should be in build area ?
23:01.03khemactually I build in /scratch
23:01.13khemand metadata is in my /home/oe
23:01.28kergoth_put it wherever you want, i think it makes the most sense in the root of your build, it sets TOPDIR relative to that
23:01.37kergoth_(at least in my example it does, could do it differently)
23:04.46khemkergoth_: so now all customizations will be in overlay/conf/layer.conf right
23:04.59khemlocal.conf does not make sense anymore ?
23:05.03kergoth_it makes sense.
23:05.15kergoth_local.conf is bound to the build, layers are for a specific overlay
23:05.19kergoth_not all your settings are overlay specific
23:05.21khemok I see only BBFILES stuff
23:05.29khemright
23:05.29kergoth_the example bblayers.conf i show sets BBPATH to include TOPDIR
23:05.33khemmost of it is common
23:05.37kergoth_so you can still use conf/local.conf relative to there
23:08.15kergoth_fixes some of the bitbake annoyances surrounding use of non-string objects in variables
23:08.34khemkergoth_: so it looks for layer.conf ?
23:08.42khemautomatically ?
23:08.44kergoth_it parses conf/layer.conf in each layer
23:08.47kergoth_requires it, actually
23:08.49khemah
23:08.49kergoth_will error without it
23:09.01khemand how does it find bblayers.conf ?
23:09.13kergoth_it searches up from your current location searching for 'conf/bblayers.conf'
23:09.16kergoth_until it hits /
23:09.23khemah
23:09.56khemso as long as I invoke bitbake in some subtree it will find it
23:10.05khemtried bitbake -DDD
23:10.05kergoth_though, i guess you could do all your build wide settings in bblayers.conf directly rather than local.conf.  i have both still
23:10.09kergoth_yeah, exactly
23:10.31kergoth_the thing to remember with bblayers.conf and layer.conf is they're all parsed before bitbake.conf.
23:10.43kergoth_obviously, since the BBPATH changes are needed to find bitbake.conf :)
23:11.08khemoverlay priority should also be in layer.conf I guess
23:11.27kergoth_thinks it would've been less confusing to call this project.conf or something, people tend to find the notion of a "project" less confusing
23:11.45kergoth_yeah, thats what i did in the example.  BBFILE_COLLECTIONS += "whatever", BBFILE_PRIORITY_whatever ..
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23:12.23kergoth_not as elegant as the priority ordered COLLECTIONS, but its a one time thing at least
23:12.56khemok cool
23:13.26kergoth_thinks about possibly adding variable typing directly into bitbake now that the str() calls are in the right places
23:13.36khemneeds to find who is pulling in gcc-cross-4.3.2+csl-arm-2008q3-39-r1
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