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| 00:19.34 | Tartarus | Well this is annoying |
| 00:19.42 | Tartarus | imgur doesn't like how big the matrix of builds I did is |
| 00:27.04 | mwester | lock him in the basement. |
| 00:27.19 | Tartarus | kicking imagemagick around now to convert to pmg |
| 00:27.21 | Tartarus | png |
| 00:27.24 | Tartarus | and crush, if needed |
| 00:27.26 | mwester | er, sorry, no that's what you do with a disagreeable igor, not imgur. |
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| 01:02.30 | Tartarus | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3284539/feb18matrix_withsimplifyflags.pdf for my weekend run |
| 01:02.47 | Tartarus | With some micro's dropped out to get it to finish up |
| 01:06.56 | Tartarus | I am easily amused at times. Just noticed a hash I need to reference ends in beeef (and yes, I know it's got one extra e) |
| 01:09.40 | mwester | Just think of how much more fun we'd have if we had adopted a 5-bit/digit system instead of Hexadecimal... :D |
| 01:10.33 | mwester | The pdf isn't showing much here. |
| 01:11.01 | Tartarus | it's large (8mb) |
| 01:11.25 | Tartarus | but does load here, heh |
| 01:11.52 | mwester | Yes, it is -- 20 pages, which took a long time for acrobat to "prepare for reading" (whatever that means) -- but it's mostly blank. |
| 01:12.30 | mwester | The first page has some text (upper right), the last page has the "Page generated" message, and a few in the middle have a page number -- but that's all that's rendered here. :( |
| 01:12.43 | mwester | I'll try to save it and open it with a different reader. |
| 01:13.27 | Tartarus | .k |
| 01:13.52 | Tartarus | evince and chrome's built-in are happy |
| 01:13.54 | Tartarus | here anyhow |
| 01:17.39 | Tartarus | mwester, oh, can you ack pinning gvfs for slugos/ |
| 01:17.57 | mwester | Ok, had to reset the color mappings for the pdf viewer for some reason. But it's all visibile now. :) |
| 01:19.18 | mwester | Sure, i can ack that -- I haven't tested it yet, since I've been busy with a few other things that won't build that have messed up my tmpdir. |
| 01:19.30 | Tartarus | k |
| 01:19.46 | Tartarus | It's a non-behavior change for slugos |
| 01:19.59 | Tartarus | You pin glib-2.0 already and gvfs 1.6.6 is default, until the end of the rest of the series I posted |
| 01:21.13 | mwester | Ah, ok. Then that makes it real easy. :) |
| 01:23.25 | mwester | native-sdk-image <--- is that something that each distro should strive to have working for their distro/machine? |
| 01:27.35 | Tartarus | If you want on target device development, yes, otherwise, no. |
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| 02:10.52 | mwester | native-sdk-image built just fine. Now I have to figure out what it was that it built. :D |
| 02:12.23 | mwester | ah, task-sdk-native on console image. :) So both apparently build fine fot eh NSLU2. I'm sure it won't boot, but it builds. |
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| 02:15.42 | Tartarus | Want me to add that to my matrix for *slug* and nslu2* ? |
| 02:19.11 | mwester | I'm not sure if it will help anyone -- if you think so, then do so -- but it's not generally useful (although adding task-sdk-native as an installable meta-package for SlugOS might be useful and make a lot of users happier) |
| 02:20.25 | mwester | BTW, if you have excess capacity, you can add qemuarm and sheevaplug machines for SlugOS -- those build. |
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| 04:13.14 | Tartarus | k, i'll poke a few things in then, thanks |
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| 07:31.11 | eFfeM_work | gm |
| 07:40.06 | mckoan | good morning |
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| 08:30.29 | sreddy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:46.45 | woglinde | gi florian |
| 08:46.54 | florian | good morning |
| 08:46.56 | woglinde | sreddy? |
| 08:47.15 | woglinde | do_install_prepend you cannt override |
| 08:48.12 | ant_work | morning woglinde |
| 08:48.25 | woglinde | sreedy what will you achieve? |
| 08:48.27 | woglinde | hi ant |
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| 08:54.34 | Jay7 | bluelightning: morning |
| 08:54.46 | bluelightning | hi Jay7, all |
| 08:55.15 | Jay7 | bluelightning: did you tried to build (recent) fbreader with opie frontend? |
| 08:55.19 | Jay7 | just asking |
| 08:55.39 | bluelightning | Jay7: no, I haven't... does it not work now? |
| 08:55.58 | Jay7 | I don't know.. I see that we have no fbreader-opie recipes.. |
| 08:56.01 | Jay7 | only for x11 |
| 08:56.09 | Jay7 | but I'll prefer to have one |
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| 09:42.48 | CIA-47 | 03Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli <GNUtoo@no-log.org> 07master * r8e4bd2fd4c 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/linux-2.6.34/om-gta01/defconfig: (log message trimmed) |
| 09:42.48 | CIA-47 | linux-2.6.34: add unwinding to om-gta01's defconfig |
| 09:42.48 | CIA-47 | * taken from om-gta02 change 1516588acd3c4b4dd4add71d06ab8ce0d1bafa02 |
| 09:42.48 | CIA-47 | Adding unwinding remove CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER while preserving its |
| 09:42.48 | CIA-47 | debug functionalities at the cost of a bigger image |
| 09:42.49 | CIA-47 | (that we mitigate by using LZMA compression instead of gzip) |
| 09:42.50 | CIA-47 | Pratically speaking that should result in speed improvements: |
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| 10:22.33 | woglinde_ | gm hrw |
| 10:22.48 | woglinde_ | gm hrw |
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| 10:23.22 | woglinde_ | hi djwillis |
| 10:23.33 | DJWillis | Hi woglinde_ |
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| 10:28.46 | hrw | morning |
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| 10:30.47 | CIA-47 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r0c1366f3bb 10openembedded.git/recipes/opencv/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:30.48 | CIA-47 | opencv 2.2: unbreak SIFT for ARM |
| 10:30.48 | CIA-47 | https://code.ros.org/trac/opencv/ticket/910 |
| 10:30.48 | CIA-47 | Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> |
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| 11:48.44 | vlrk | hello all iam new to embedded environment can any body tell me what does bsp's means and |
| 11:48.50 | vlrk | what will be the work on that |
| 11:48.50 | vlrk | ..? |
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| 11:51.08 | hrw | board support package |
| 11:51.56 | vlrk | hrw: that is abbrevation for that.. |
| 11:52.21 | vlrk | but what would be the work on that.. |
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| 11:53.19 | bluelightning | vlrk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Board_support_package |
| 11:53.28 | incandescant | vlrk: machine definition, kernel config (and possible patches), etc - see the Yocto documentation http://www.yoctoproject.org/sites/default/files/bsp-guide_7.pdf |
| 11:54.58 | vlrk | incandescant:thx |
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| 12:39.01 | mwester | decides he hates autoconf. |
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| 13:39.16 | anr78 | I'm working on a user config to switch between dhcp and static ip. Are there any utils that can help me with that, or must I build my own /etc/network/interfaces files? |
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| 13:52.46 | mwester | anr78, it's easier to build your own than to try to get NetworkManager (aka NetworkMangler) working with all its dependencies and assumptions. |
| 13:53.43 | anr78 | mwester: yeah. just remembered how much I have struggled with that one on Ubuntu, so it will be a nice little python script :) |
| 13:54.35 | mwester | But, that's my opinion -- there are others who strongly believe that embedded devices should be able to handle desktop tools; as evidenced by the increasing number of base packages that now pull in dbus, and therefore xlib, and a plethora of similar stuff. |
| 13:56.31 | eFfeM_work | :q |
| 13:56.39 | eFfeM_work | oopsie |
| 13:57.06 | mwester | I was wondering if you were makeing some sort of cryptic comment on network manager, eFfeM_work :D |
| 13:57.17 | eFfeM_work | nope |
| 13:57.43 | eFfeM_work | i've not really played with it, I'm a cmd line person :-) |
| 13:58.22 | mwester | As am i, which is probably the root cause of my distaste for the "new" way to manage services on Linux (dbus) |
| 14:02.29 | bluelightning | there's also connman; it's supposed to be simpler than nm |
| 14:08.08 | mwester | Doesn't connman also require dbus? |
| 14:08.09 | woglinde | re |
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| 14:13.37 | bluelightning | mwester: if you are opposed to having dbus installed then it won't be suitable, no... |
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| 15:24.51 | ajb_oe | If I'm using sane-toolchain.inc which defines the prefered gcc as 4.5 why is it: 4.5-r31.2+svnr170123? |
| 15:25.47 | woglinde | because the 4.5 recipe is at svn |
| 15:26.19 | ajb_oe | and thats a sane default? |
| 15:26.43 | Tartarus | Yes |
| 15:26.49 | Tartarus | Since 4.5 is a released branch of gcc |
| 15:26.58 | Tartarus | And they have clear guidelines |
| 15:27.08 | ajb_oe | ahh so the branch is considered stable |
| 15:27.13 | ajb_oe | sees |
| 15:28.55 | hrw | ajb_oe: OE gcc-4.5 takes code from fsf svn repo and adds lot of linaro patches (which speedup arm) |
| 15:29.31 | DJWillis | wonders how 'stable' bbappend and recipe priority is these days (with BB 1.12) |
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| 15:48.09 | CIA-47 | 03Mike Westerhof <mwester@dls.net> 07org.openembedded.dev * rb162231b35 10openembedded.git/recipes/squid/squid_3.1.9.bb: |
| 15:48.09 | CIA-47 | This patch changes hard-coded references to /usr and /opt in the various |
| 15:48.09 | CIA-47 | squid config.test scripts to point to the correct sysroot paths. |
| 15:48.09 | CIA-47 | This version accommodates the unusual staging dir layout used by micro. |
| 15:48.09 | CIA-47 | Signed-off-by: Mike Westerhof <mike@mwester.net> |
| 15:48.10 | CIA-47 | Acked-by: Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com> |
| 15:48.14 | CIA-47 | 03Mike Westerhof <mwester@dls.net> 07org.openembedded.dev * r1f71b10332 10openembedded.git/recipes/meta/slugos-packages.bb: SlugOS: slugos-packages - reinstate squid, add task-sdk-native |
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| 15:57.43 | ajb_oe | frowns at a failing groff build |
| 15:58.05 | pb_ | ajb_oe: apropos your libnet thing, have you tried just setting RDEPENDS_${PN}-dev = "" to stop libnet-dev getting the dependency on libnet in the first place? |
| 16:06.42 | ajb_oe | pb_: no, no-one suggested it at the time. I'll give it a spin |
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| 16:21.52 | sreddy | woglinde : thanks i got it |
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| 16:26.33 | woglinde | sreddy he okay |
| 16:30.28 | sreddy | woglinde : Apart from adding to DEPENDS +=" liboil " and adding -I${LIBOILPATH} what modification i need to do in my recipe to make it compile with a gicen xyz.so file |
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| 16:48.48 | Tartarus | Anyone around that can delete branches? |
| 16:49.32 | CIA-47 | 03Tom Rini <tom_rini@mentor.com> 07master * r9c5b9db297 10openembedded.git/conf/bitbake.conf: |
| 16:49.32 | CIA-47 | bitbake.conf: Simplify TARGET_CPPFLAGS/LDFLAGS |
| 16:49.32 | CIA-47 | This is based on poky's ba2e1f4d933c37b372d6749d64614f2510ee9d7b, which |
| 16:49.32 | CIA-47 | simplifies TARGET_CPPFLAGS (and thus CFLAGS) and TARGET_LDFLAGS |
| 16:49.32 | CIA-47 | based on gcc any company having --sysroot |
| 16:49.33 | CIA-47 | Acked-by:Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com> |
| 16:49.33 | CIA-47 | Signed-off-by: Tom Rini <tom_rini@mentor.com> |
| 16:51.07 | demigod2k | Tartarus: I dont know how to work git to check if this made it in, but there was another obstacle I had found during that process |
| 16:51.25 | ka6sox-away | Tartarus, I could probably do it but cbrake would be better. |
| 16:51.52 | Tartarus | k, thanks |
| 16:51.53 | demigod2k | conf/distro/include/sane-toolchain.inc contained a TARGET_CC_ARCH_pn-cairo_armv5te = "-march=armv4t" which was a problem for me, may not be necessary |
| 16:52.18 | Tartarus | demigod2k, yeah, there's a few things like that which do need an audit again |
| 16:52.21 | ka6sox-away | cbrake, can you help Tartarus? |
| 16:53.11 | cbrake | Tartarus: sure, which ones? |
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| 16:53.27 | Tartarus | trini/simplify-target-flags |
| 16:55.06 | cbrake | Tartarus: done |
| 16:55.36 | Tartarus | thanks |
| 17:07.22 | ajb_oe | Is anyone building groff in their tree, I have no idea why this build is failing? |
| 17:07.33 | demigod2k | that BB_THREADS made a huge difference.... load average: 10.08, 7.49, 6.60 |
| 17:07.42 | demigod2k | in thats case BB_THREADS = 4 |
| 17:07.47 | hrw | wow, bitbake 1.12 has progressbar and ETA |
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| 17:12.36 | woglinde | hrw you didnt use master for a while? |
| 17:13.09 | hrw | woglinde: I did not used OE for quite long time |
| 17:13.19 | woglinde | oh |
| 17:13.30 | woglinde | it even has parallel parsing |
| 17:13.34 | woglinde | thanks to kergoth |
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| 17:36.29 | lackS | Good evening everybody |
| 17:40.45 | filip | hi, regarding http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/589/ |
| 17:40.53 | filip | when is the review going to be completed? |
| 17:42.16 | woglinde | filip when some is doing it? |
| 17:42.24 | woglinde | try to ping on the ml |
| 17:44.05 | filip | woglinde: I'm just curious about the procedure |
| 17:45.01 | woglinde | ? |
| 17:45.13 | woglinde | there is nothing special |
| 17:45.18 | woglinde | if some one looks at it |
| 17:45.21 | woglinde | mostly khem |
| 17:45.25 | woglinde | and give his ack |
| 17:45.32 | woglinde | he also is commiting it |
| 17:45.42 | woglinde | if nobody looks |
| 17:45.45 | woglinde | nothing happens |
| 17:45.58 | filip | okay |
| 17:47.49 | hrw | and if nothing happens for long time then you ping again |
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| 17:59.39 | lackS | Hey guys, short question: The "micro" distribution (conf/distro/micro.conf) is unmaintained and not guaranteed to build, right? |
| 18:00.20 | woglinde | hrw or give up |
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| 18:03.41 | lackS | And what about conf/distro/minimal.conf? Is it still valuable as a starting point to build a distro? |
| 18:03.59 | woglinde | minimal should work |
| 18:04.14 | woglinde | but what is the problem you are going to solve? |
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| 18:04.50 | demigod2k | lackS: minimal builds a TON of stuff that I wouldn't really describe as minimal, which has all been obstacles for me |
| 18:05.17 | demigod2k | lackS: and because it's so hierarchical it can be a real challenge to comment out things which are blocking the build |
| 18:06.06 | demigod2k | I think its a better starting point than anything else but beware the name is deceiving |
| 18:06.26 | lackS | libmpc refused to build because it did not recognise a proper version of gmp (one of its dependencies) |
| 18:06.47 | Crofton|work | minimal is supposed to be the minimal things defined in a distro file |
| 18:06.49 | lackS | Stop thinking about it, I'm currently doing a clean bitbake task-base with my config |
| 18:06.54 | Crofton|work | I think it is out of hand again |
| 18:06.57 | woglinde | demigod2k for you too building != what ends uo in image |
| 18:07.30 | lackS | I was a bad guy and interrupted the building process to change my config file several times, so I guess a clean start is the best way to see if the problem really exists or was just caused by my messing |
| 18:07.32 | woglinde | there are some deps mostly bluetooth which drags in the gnome because fo gstreamer |
| 18:07.45 | woglinde | bette bluetooth-sound drags it in |
| 18:07.49 | demigod2k | woglinde: that could be. I'm retrying with a -k right now hoping it'll skip ahead and be able to create an image anyway. Two weeks in and I'm still working on that :( |
| 18:07.54 | woglinde | search the ml for diskussion |
| 18:07.59 | woglinde | about it |
| 18:08.06 | woglinde | ? |
| 18:08.06 | demigod2k | woglinde: other thing too is I'm starting with "bitbake console-image" which might not be the best starting point? |
| 18:08.07 | Crofton|work | demigod2k, what image are you trying to build? |
| 18:08.15 | lackS | woglinde, to whom are you talking? |
| 18:08.16 | demigod2k | console-image. is there a better more minimal choice? |
| 18:08.27 | Crofton|work | probably |
| 18:08.31 | woglinde | demigod2k |
| 18:08.34 | lackS | thx |
| 18:08.41 | demigod2k | pretty much all I want is busybox in any sort of filesystem in order to prove-out that I can build something. console seemed small |
| 18:08.43 | Crofton|work | what do yuo need in an image? |
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| 18:09.39 | demigod2k | Crofton|work: almost nothing yet. I'm still trying to prove-out that we can switch-off of buildroot. later I'll worry about cherry-picking packages that I want |
| 18:09.54 | woglinde | lackS you might get distro where the false versions are pinned |
| 18:10.07 | woglinde | lacks try angstroem 2010.x |
| 18:10.11 | woglinde | and console-image |
| 18:10.16 | woglinde | or shr |
| 18:11.05 | lackS | angstrom seems way to heavy for my purpose... or is there a quick way to build an angstrom image with a minimal set like busybox + some more (<20) packages? |
| 18:11.11 | demigod2k | Crofton|work: the challenge for example has been that console-image pulled in this libfso (smartphone?) which doesn't built with older glibc and I'm using an external toolchain, etc, etc, etc. |
| 18:11.31 | woglinde | lacks *sigh* |
| 18:11.45 | lackS | woglinde, sorry if I appear to be dumb |
| 18:11.45 | woglinde | angstroem is distro it not defines whats in an image |
| 18:11.58 | Crofton|work | hmm |
| 18:12.06 | Crofton|work | I wonder why console-image gets libfso |
| 18:12.12 | woglinde | it defines versions and some other strategies |
| 18:12.16 | lackS | I know that angstrom is a distro. Question: How can you define what packages will be included in an image? |
| 18:12.18 | Crofton|work | console-imag is not designed to be super small |
| 18:12.21 | woglinde | crofton -g |
| 18:12.23 | Crofton|work | but that sounds funny |
| 18:12.44 | woglinde | and examine the pn- file |
| 18:12.44 | demigod2k | woglinde: I've got the same misunderstanding I suppose. If I did a "bitbake -k console-image" is it possible that tasks will fail to build but it'll still spit out a jffs2 image? |
| 18:13.00 | woglinde | demigod2k it should fail |
| 18:13.03 | woglinde | not |
| 18:13.11 | woglinde | why is it failure at your side? |
| 18:13.41 | Crofton|work | urg, I need to debug this fpga though |
| 18:14.04 | woglinde | hehe |
| 18:14.09 | demigod2k | woglinde: for example I "bitbake console-image" tries to build several pacakges which have an unexpressed dependency of glibc > 2.8. those packages fail to build and apparantly they're needed for hte image |
| 18:14.12 | ka6sox-away | was there a release today? |
| 18:14.13 | woglinde | verilog verilog verilog |
| 18:14.23 | ka6sox-away | wrong channel..sorry |
| 18:14.25 | woglinde | glibc 2.8? |
| 18:14.35 | woglinde | what distro are you using? |
| 18:14.42 | woglinde | try angstroem 2010.x |
| 18:14.44 | demigod2k | woglinde: I'm working on resolving those things but the catch is that it's including all this stuff that I may or may not care to have in the image, but because the packages won't compile it ultimately blocks me from progressing to building an entire image |
| 18:14.47 | woglinde | choose uclibc |
| 18:14.52 | woglinde | and uclibc git version |
| 18:14.59 | demigod2k | woglinde: the other trick is that I must use an external toolchain. it's not possible to build one for my chip |
| 18:15.05 | woglinde | ah right |
| 18:15.09 | woglinde | he |
| 18:15.14 | woglinde | its external toolchain |
| 18:15.35 | woglinde | blame your vendor |
| 18:15.38 | woglinde | not us |
| 18:15.39 | Crofton | libfso ends up in the image, or it just tried to build it? |
| 18:15.52 | woglinde | crofotn mostly only build |
| 18:16.26 | demigod2k | woglinde: could be. the ultimate difficulty is that it's pretty difficult for me to track down which *.bb contains some line that decides to add each thing, and whether or not I wanted that library which failed to build it's difficult for me to remove it |
| 18:16.39 | demigod2k | woglinde: I don't blame you. it's my problem in the end to solve it's just not trivial to solve |
| 18:17.06 | woglinde | demigod2k remove bt support |
| 18:17.19 | woglinde | so the set should be small |
| 18:17.30 | demigod2k | Crofton: would appear to be in the image since it was listed in the *.dot file, tried to build, and with a -k it won't spit out a jffs2 image but honestly I'm too new at this to track down much more detail |
| 18:18.29 | Crofton | is there a micro-image? |
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| 18:19.34 | demigod2k | yes there is an I'm trying it right now! |
| 18:20.00 | demigod2k | my last build choked because it couldn't build tcpdump |
| 18:21.27 | demigod2k | I haven't been able to run graphviz yet on *.dot but I think it would also be more obvious if for a given image I could see "ok task-base includes... task-cli-image includes..." etc so it's more obvious why a package gets included and how it's disabled |
| 18:22.39 | demigod2k | it's always a tradeoff. of course it becomes unmanageable if every target had a list 1 mile long that named every image include individually but right now you have to pick through several layers of hierarchy to figure out why a certain package got picked up. it can be quite difficult |
| 18:25.19 | demigod2k | Crofton: both micro-image and minimal-image built and spit out an image for me. I'll try flashing them onto my board in a sec. THANKS for the tip, that really was simpler than console-image and I may be recommending that as a better starting point for the wiki |
| 18:26.13 | Crofton|work | demigod2k, it really depends on what yuo are trying to do |
| 18:26.25 | Crofton|work | console-image does dar more useful things for many users |
| 18:27.24 | demigod2k | true. perhaps I mean more of a split that if you're a board vendor looking to bring-up, start simple, and do something equivalent to buildroot then that's a better example |
| 18:27.49 | demigod2k | if you're a hobbyist or somebody that we'd consider in the aftermarket, then they want a different path because OE may already be supporting the piece of hardware they have in hand |
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| 18:31.13 | lackS | demigod2k, which hardware are you trying to run? |
| 18:31.57 | woglinde | demigod2k its a wiki you can edit it too |
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| 18:32.35 | woglinde | demigod2k and you cannt run the produced .dot files with graphiz really |
| 18:32.38 | woglinde | they are to dense |
| 18:32.47 | woglinde | I look at them with vi or less |
| 18:32.49 | demigod2k | lackS: we make a few atmel sam9261 based products using buildroot (240mhz / 16mb nor / 64mb sdram). switching to Marvell 78200 (1 ghz / sata / ddr2 socket) for the upcoming stuff |
| 18:33.49 | demigod2k | woglinde: ya I will glady work on docs as soon as I'm actually building code that executes :) the *.dot I noticed that too. I was thinking if it was possible to do like the image to the package name level it might work. they are super dense though |
| 18:34.23 | woglinde | demigod2k the pn- file is okay |
| 18:34.32 | lackS | demigod2k: Sounds fine, thanks for the info. I'm playing around with a Marvell PXA320 (806 MHz / 128 MB RAM/ 1 GB internal flash HD) |
| 18:34.41 | woglinde | I am mostly find now the faulty deps I am searching for |
| 18:35.41 | demigod2k | hm good point the pn- looks smarter. what does pn- stand for though? |
| 18:36.06 | woglinde | packagename |
| 18:36.14 | woglinde | or dont know |
| 18:36.38 | woglinde | pxa is really outdated |
| 18:36.38 | Jay7 | hi woglinde |
| 18:36.39 | woglinde | *g* |
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| 18:36.54 | Jay7 | seems my ISP connection is bad today :( |
| 18:37.40 | demigod2k | lackS: At first I was going to run away screaming from the chips but I've grown to accept them. Poor low-power performance has been my main complaint so far |
| 18:38.18 | demigod2k | well plus the inadequate documentation and how far things have forked from any mainline linux support |
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| 18:39.45 | Crofton | demigod2k, also follow the yocto integration discussions |
| 18:39.58 | Crofton | your observations should be useful to the people doing that work |
| 18:40.59 | demigod2k | I should comment that the work here IS good, which is why we're looking at it. I think the whole ipkg thing to build a root filesystem is a serious, serious improvement over how buildroot works |
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| 18:42.18 | lackS | woglinde: It's a Toradex Colibri and lives on a SODIMM. We have pretty strict requirements concerning device size, that's why we're choosing it. |
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| 18:45.27 | demigod2k | Crofton: Just another general comment, I think the distro is a very foreign concept to somebody in my shoes. Our usual approach is to select a bunch of packages in buildroot and create a squashfs filesystem that gets flashed onto a device |
| 18:46.20 | woglinde | lacks we already hat the discussion |
| 18:46.22 | woglinde | *g* |
| 18:46.29 | lackS | Yep... ;-) |
| 18:46.32 | woglinde | I pointed you to the tegra moduls |
| 18:46.55 | lackS | I know. Unfortunately, choice of hardware is not my decision. |
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| 18:48.59 | demigod2k | Crofton: so where the wiki suggests not to start with certain things, in my shoes the very first thing you want to do is clone and modify a couple files (distribution conf, image conf, external toolchain conf, etc) to specify what you're building |
| 18:49.57 | lackS | woglinde, the Toradex Tegra2 are not production state btw... engineering samples only |
| 18:53.46 | woglinde | yes |
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| 18:55.31 | florian | re |
| 18:57.57 | CIA-47 | 03Tom Rini <tom_rini@mentor.com> 07master * r52d750320e 10openembedded.git/recipes/strongswan/strongswan_4.5.1.bb: |
| 18:57.57 | CIA-47 | strongswan: Add version 4.5.1 |
| 18:57.57 | CIA-47 | strongSwan is an alternative to openswan. |
| 18:57.57 | CIA-47 | Signed-off-by: Tom Rini <tom_rini@mentor.com> |
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| 19:12.12 | CIA-47 | 03Steffen Sledz <sledz@dresearch.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r33912e223d 10openembedded.git/recipes/jansson/jansson_1.3.bb: |
| 19:12.12 | CIA-47 | jansson: new version 1.3 |
| 19:12.12 | CIA-47 | Signed-off-by: Steffen Sledz <sledz@dresearch.de> |
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| 19:13.31 | demigod2k | general question, OE built an /sbin/init which depends on libc.so.6. is it typical for unix that /sbin still depends on the libc? |
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| 19:14.14 | demigod2k | its ok it resulted in a failure because I forgot to specify that libc needed to go into the image but I was surprised the binary wasn't completely static |
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| 19:19.00 | GatorBoz | Anyone here do linux power regulator device drivers? |
| 19:19.27 | hrw | GatorBoz: lrg maintains whole subsystem iirc |
| 19:19.38 | GatorBoz | is that Liam? |
| 19:20.17 | GatorBoz | i've got a regulator that is always on |
| 19:20.24 | GatorBoz | but the PMIC that is compiled in doesn't exist |
| 19:20.49 | GatorBoz | so I think that is why the driver for a device is not working |
| 19:23.41 | GatorBoz | hrw: has lrg been on today? |
| 19:28.49 | hrw | ~seen lrg |
| 19:28.53 | ibot | lrg <~lrg@slimlogic.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 71d 3h 42m 7s ago, saying: 'RP: congrats - excellent news !'. |
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| 19:33.58 | mwester | :( bitbake 1.12.0 hangs when starting the parse on my buildhost... |
| 19:34.33 | mwester | Looks like it creates 4 threads, which promptly enter a [defunct] state, and then the main thread needs to be killed to get it back. |
| 19:34.50 | mwester | no helpful info from -D -D -D -D debug flags. |
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| 19:38.59 | khem | mwester: do u have assume provided in your local.cong |
| 19:39.07 | khem | local.conf |
| 19:41.20 | Tartarus | mwester, what host and what python version? |
| 19:43.00 | mwester | khem, yes I do. Tartarus, Fedora 12 (64-bit), python (host) 2.6.2 |
| 19:43.53 | ajb_oe | wonders why bitbake can't install udhcp into his image when the package is there |
| 19:43.55 | Tartarus | 64bit + 2.6.5 is OK, so that's strange |
| 19:45.20 | mwester | Ok, removing the assume provided doesn't change it. |
| 19:45.38 | Tartarus | can you pastebin what's left? |
| 19:45.44 | mwester | But I'm being called out to a meeting -- so this will have to wait until I get back in an hour or so. |
| 19:45.48 | Tartarus | k |
| 19:46.59 | mwester | http://pastebin.com/R292AM7C |
| 19:47.12 | mwester | :) Now I must dash off! |
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| 19:52.09 | paepke | hi guys. i'm currently struggling with some xorg modules. i can't find the pointer where i should look. So here is my problem using bitbake 0.10.2 and the corresponding xorg-1.9.3 stuff. when starting xorg it complains about missing int10 lib and other libs. they are definatelly in the image. if i change the recipie not to make a module of it it works as expected. |
| 19:52.22 | Tartarus | mwester, good news / bad news, it's not a local.conf thing. That + BBFILES is parsing away on my u10.10 64bit box |
| 19:52.25 | Tartarus | er, 10.04 |
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| 19:56.20 | paepke | ok. i re-enabled hal. thought i can get rid of it. need more coffee. sorry for the noise |
| 19:56.44 | Tartarus | hal should be replacable, heh |
| 19:57.20 | lackS | I'll leave for today guys |
| 19:57.39 | lackS | Have a nice day/eve/night (whatever timezone you are in ;-) and see you! |
| 19:57.41 | lackS | --off |
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| 19:58.41 | paepke | Tartarus, i thought i had it already running without hal. |
| 19:59.41 | paepke | Tartarus, it seems i still have problems with that int10. |
| 20:00.38 | ka6sox | Tartarus, do you get enough information about the builds from hudson to be useful to us for solving OE problems? |
| 20:00.38 | ka6sox | \ |
| 20:04.07 | Tartarus | paepke, you need other stuff instead, iirc |
| 20:04.15 | Tartarus | ka6sox, well, it depends on disk space, really |
| 20:04.35 | Tartarus | internally, for product stuff, we archive $TMPDIR/work/*/*/temp |
| 20:04.40 | Tartarus | along with console output and so on |
| 20:04.55 | Tartarus | But that takes a lot of space |
| 20:04.57 | paepke | Tartarus, i'm currently digging through the xorg recipe. |
| 20:05.07 | ka6sox | Tartarus, ya, that does... |
| 20:05.15 | Tartarus | For community builds, I just capture console output and then sometimes it does and sometimes I need to reproduce the problem |
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| 20:05.51 | Tartarus | I guess I look at it like this |
| 20:05.58 | Tartarus | Hudson/Jenksin can do jobs written in python |
| 20:06.53 | Tartarus | So, ${insert dev effort here} and we can know what failed and then archive just the logs for that recipe |
| 20:07.15 | Tartarus | (since sometimes you want log.do_configure to see what went off for log.do_compiles strange looking failure, and so on) |
| 20:08.28 | ka6sox | okay, can we get that by "package" or only for the entire build? |
| 20:09.58 | Tartarus | without some sort of mangling or post-processing, we can only get it all, or just console |
| 20:10.59 | ka6sox | I"m trying to figure out how to write a plugin that "manages" the offsite builds by "watching" them but they don't have to stay connected (ala JNLP) |
| 20:11.11 | Tartarus | ok |
| 20:11.21 | Jay7 | community builds are easy |
| 20:11.40 | ka6sox | so our server would be the slave for the master but would report that things are fine out in build land. |
| 20:11.41 | Jay7 | just use remote API and post every package status + logs |
| 20:12.05 | ka6sox | but batched up...so by package. |
| 20:12.17 | Jay7 | but I'm sure Hudson/Jenkins can't produce reports I've noted on wiki page |
| 20:13.29 | ka6sox | dunnos...I'd rather keep the "custom" un-maintainium stuff down to a minimum. |
| 20:14.33 | Tartarus | I own one plugin so far and it's not too bad on the plugin maintainers |
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| 20:17.42 | Jay7 | hm.. jenkins + jasper-repors |
| 20:17.50 | Jay7 | or even jasper BI suite |
| 20:23.36 | ka6sox | okay so this is a "work in progress" |
| 20:23.53 | ka6sox | after SCALE I'll have a bit more time to setup something with jenkins on it. |
| 20:28.27 | Jay7 | is looking on ka6sox's word 'un-maintainium' |
| 20:28.34 | Jay7 | it's pretty descriptive :) |
| 20:30.52 | ka6sox | Jay7, it does describe "systems" that are architected by 1 person, are not documented well, and which, over time, fall into disrepair and then either break or go out of control. |
| 20:32.31 | Jay7 | ka6sox: IMHO we should collaborate with yocto here |
| 20:32.45 | ka6sox | they are using? |
| 20:33.08 | Jay7 | now they are using buildbot (master + slaves) |
| 20:33.31 | Jay7 | afaik, they have no client-master mode |
| 20:34.02 | Jay7 | but we may discuss it together |
| 20:34.24 | ka6sox | okay I'll ask RP when I see him. |
| 20:34.50 | ka6sox | but hopefully its more forgiving of non-fulltime connected slaves. |
| 20:35.11 | Jay7 | ka6sox: I'll ping him on #yocto |
| 20:35.35 | ka6sox | I suppose I could go there unless its a closed thing. |
| 20:36.59 | Jay7 | channel is open |
| 20:37.10 | RP__ | I am here? |
| 20:38.06 | Jay7 | RP__: we are trying to choose right software for QA/build-testing |
| 20:38.22 | Jay7 | I've posted link to wiki with our req's on #yocto |
| 20:39.02 | RP__ | ok, I'll reply on #yocto |
| 20:39.26 | Jay7 | ka6sox: join it please :) |
| 20:40.14 | woglinde | hi rp |
| 20:43.40 | demigod2k | is there an explanation anywhere for what INSANE_SKIP_* does? I'm trying to fixup my external-toolchain-* recipe to actually put the glibc on the target and can't find that in the user manual |
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| 21:09.16 | filip | Tartarus, khem : any news on http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/589/ ? |
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| 22:13.48 | demigod2k | every recipes/images/*.bb has IMAGE_INSTALL. How does that relate to what's in the user manual (PACKAGE_INSTALL, etc)? Couldn't find that variable name anywhere in the manual |
| 22:13.52 | demigod2k | did it get changed at some point? |
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