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07:32.56aartihi all , how can i change the crontab file using my customized recipe
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08:50.19pnxsHi there! Does anybody know how to debug with gdb and using the symbol-files from .debug?
08:51.20JaMathey are loaded automatically
08:51.54JaMaif you're debuging something which loads modules in runtime (like Xorg) then you need to get starting address from /proc/pid/maps
08:51.58pnxssure? does gdb searches for symbols in /usr/lib/.debug a.s.o
08:52.06JaMaand load-symbol-file url adress
08:52.53pnxsok, you mean with add-symbol-file <file> <address>
08:53.22JaMayeah right, sorry my memory is not that good :)
08:54.10JaMabut that's needed only for libs loaded explicitly from runtime
08:54.10pnxsi hoped that gdb can load them automatically
08:54.34pnxsmy lib is loaded by dlopen :-)
08:56.36pnxsi'm not shure, but when my lib contains the debug symbols in the shared object, i think it could be debugged without specifying any options...
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09:02.45pnxsJaMa: when i got a executable in /usr/bin/myBin without debug symbols (as build from openembedded) and the symbols /usr/bin/.debug/myBin how could gdb find it? is there a way to set a search path?
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09:09.37mlippnxs, you can always load a symbol file using "add-symbol-file" from the gdb prompt
09:10.22mlippnxs, in case of a shared-lib you do also "set stop-on-solib-events 1" which instructs gdb to stop whenever a shared lib is loaded
09:10.31mlipafter that you can load you symbols
09:11.18pnxsyes this is correct. But i want to let gdb do that for me. So gdb is searching for the symbols in the executable files (also in that, that where dynamically loaded)
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09:12.27pnxswhen there were a mechanism to let gdb search in another file for the symbols of the executable, gdb should be able to load it without any user input (i think)
09:13.29mlippnxs, http://sourceware.org/gdb/current/onlinedocs/gdb/Separate-Debug-Files.html
09:13.31pnxswhen for example my binary with debug symbols is stripped and strip saves the stripped parts into another file, it should be possible to merge them again afterwards
09:13.51pnxs...reading...
09:15.01pnxsthank you! i will try it
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09:23.17prashant_hello
09:23.59likewiseprashant_: hello
09:24.51prashant_I had builded a filesystem for mini6410 using oe......  but now when I compiled  fltk apps across oe .... I m getting an error :......error: Connections.o uses VFP register arguments, libSTPLCore.so does not
09:25.17prashant_can anyone help me out...
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09:26.54prashant_this are the commands I m using ... <arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-g++ -c -fPIC  Connections.c
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09:27.17prashant_>arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-g++ -shared -o libSTPLCore.so Connections.o -lcrypt
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09:28.33prashant_can anyone help me what is  VFP register arguments?
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09:35.24mlipprashant_, do you compile on your own or use bitbake and a recipe?
09:37.01prashant_I had created x11-image using bitbake.... now using that oe toolchain I m trying to compile my fltk apps across it...
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09:38.30mlipprashant_, then, you also need to pass -L to the linker since you try to link against -lcrypt
09:40.34prashant_/home/prashant/Downloads/oebase/build/tmp/sysroots/i686-linux/usr/armv6/lib/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/4.5.3/../../../../arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/bin/ld: failed to merge target specific data of file Connections.o
09:40.34prashant_collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
09:41.04prashant_error: Connections.o uses VFP register arguments, libSTPLCore.so does not
09:41.30prashant_I m getting this error...
09:41.46prashant_its not a problem of linking i think so
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09:45.38mlipprashant_, you probably have to set the mfpu/fpu in some kind, but I am no expert on this
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09:49.42mlip"-march=armv7-a -mtune=cortex-a8 -mfpu=neon -mfloat-abi=softfp" may help though
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09:51.00mlipprashant_,  if you have some knowledge on autotools I would encourage you to write an autotools based recipe
09:51.18pnxsJaMa: after some investigation i found out that gdb already loaded all my symbols but doesnt say so
09:51.57pnxswhen a gnu-debuglink section is found in the executable gdb searches also in the .debug directory on that level for a filename set in the debuglink
09:53.04pnxsthe only think is: the printouts when the gdb is connected to a process it prints out that no debugsymbols where found for every file, but load them from debuglink-files silently...
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09:53.18pnxsso the problem was: no problem at all :-)
09:54.09pnxsso have a nice day and thank you for your help. cu
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10:06.16prashant_thanks......mlip....my problem is solved........
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10:44.35GNUtoo|laptopI'll push wordwarvi
10:44.39GNUtoo|laptopvery soon
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10:52.17sanketcan any one just me a MIPS Development kit which support embedded Linux, Windows,... Having JTAG, USB, LAN, TV out, SDCARD , VGA, Serial, etc ...
10:54.15sanketLCD,
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11:52.34kannerkehello
11:53.36kannerkeI'm trying to create a recipe, but I get an error during the configure step: "missing: GNU_PATCH_EXECUTABLE"
11:54.06kannerkeI'm using cmake
11:54.25kannerkeit is triggered by CMakeLists.txt:9 (find_package) (-> find_package(GSOAP REQUIRED))
11:54.53kannerkeI already build gsoap (bitbake gsoap) and that workerd fine
12:00.36GNUtoo|laptopkannerke, maybe you need to point it to where gsoap is
12:00.47GNUtoo|laptops/it to//
12:02.00morphiskannerke: most times the cmake scripts are not ready for cross compilation
12:02.11morphiskannerke: try to find out where cmake looks for gsoap
12:03.51kannerkemorphis: how can I make the script ready for cross compilation?
12:04.33kannerkepatch must be availble because there must be a patch applied to gsoap for openssl and that worked
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12:12.39morphiskannerke: if you look at this http://git.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=aa4b7e83ed6f4a7b371c60a2a75575ba5bb3c787
12:12.44likewisehow does openembedded-core-contrib/master relate to openembedded-core/master?
12:12.49morphisI have there my own FindQt4.cmake script
12:12.56morphiswhich is adjusted for cross compilation
12:13.01morphisto search in the right directories
12:13.23morphisthere is maybe a FindGSOAP.cmake file somewhere
12:13.28morphiswhich cmake uses to find GSOAP
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12:17.36JaMalikewise: I always rebase my -contrib repos against openembedded-core/master not it's -contrib ekvivalent
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12:20.56likewiseJaMa: so core-contrib should track core? who
12:21.05likewisejama: who does that?
12:21.42JaMaRP is merging pull requests sent to oe-core ML
12:22.00likewiseI wonder why we have a core-contrib, where people have feature branches, which are intended for core. Why not have feature branches on core itself?
12:24.40JaMadon't know if gitolite supports not only per-branch permissions (it does), but also stuff like allowed -f for push and removing branches by uses (which is usefull for -contrib repo)
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12:25.33likewiseJaMa: ok, so it's mostly permission based why -contrib is there
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12:26.06likewiseJaMa: My concern is that core-contrib/master is going to divert from core/master slowly.
12:26.23JaMalikewise: core-contrib/master doesn't make sense to me
12:26.56JaMalikewise: rebasing against oe-core/master makes sense to be sure that it will merge cleanly when RP decides to pull it
12:30.26likewiseJaMa: exactly.
12:31.21JaMabut don't know who pushes oe-core-contrib/master or if it was really intentional
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12:37.49likewiseJaMa: I have sent a message to verify if someone keeps -contrib/master in sync.
12:40.11kannerkemorphis: there are both a FindGSOAP.cmake and a FINDGnuPatch.cmake file
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13:42.54varunbhi! can anyone help me in 'root' login without keyboard rootfs created using OE?
13:43.22varunbi mean can i login as root using script??
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14:35.41florianvarunb: yes that's possible.. you would have to change /etc/sysconfig/gpelogin
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15:11.52mrmichaelHello everyone.  I created a new kernel object and installed under ${D}/...lib/modules..../dsp/new.ko.  using the default "do_install" I expect will automatically add my new package to "PACKAGES"  
15:11.59mrmichaelI get this error "following files were installed but not shipped in any package"
15:12.05mrmichaelwith my kernel object
15:12.25mrmichaelbut if I add my recipe to "PACKAGES" it says that my recipe is included twice.
15:13.07mrmichaelFrom reading the documentation, I think that the right way to do this is to use the default do_install(){} and populates "FILES_${PN}"
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15:19.54pb_mrmichael: did you have a question?
15:20.53mrmichaelhi
15:21.17mrmichaelyes.  for some reason my new.ko kernel object isn't getting added to a package, even though I've added it to FILES_${PN}
15:21.23mrmichaelthat's the only file I've created
15:21.26mrmichaelI've installed it
15:21.30mrmichaelI list it
15:21.46pb_can you paste your .bb file somewhere?
15:21.50mrmichaelbut when I run the default do_install() it says "no files included, not creating package"
15:21.51mrmichaelyes
15:22.21pb_I'm surprised that do_install() would say that.  Is that the exact message it prints?
15:22.59mrmichaelNOTE: package eric-0.1-r97i: task do_package_write_ipk: Started Packaged contents of eric into /home/erict/overo-oe/tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/armv7a/ eric_0.1-r97i.6_armv7a.ipk NOTE: Not creating empty archive for eric-doc-0.1-r97i.6 Packaged contents of eric-dev into /home/erict/overo-oe/tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/arm v7a/eric-dev_0.1-r97i.6_armv7a.ipk
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15:23.25mrmichaelit's do_package() not do_install() that prints it.  my bad
15:23.27pb_okay, so that is the -doc package that it isn't creating.
15:24.07pb_it apparently is creating eric_0.1-r97i.6_armv7a.ipk and eric-dev_0.1-r97i.6_armv7a.ipk so those must not be empty.
15:24.14mrmichaelit's the package which contains my new kernel object.  I am not createing a doc package.  I'll cut/paste the whole recipe
15:24.28mrmichaelDESCRIPTION = "ERIC's Personal Program" PR = "r0" LICENSE = "GPLv2"  PR = "${MACHINE_KERNEL_PR}" PR_append = "i"  PROVIDES = "eric"  export LINUXKERNEL_INSTALL_DIR = "/home/erict/overo-oe/tmp/sysroots/armv7a-angst rom-linux-gnueabi/lib/modules/2.6.36/build"  SRC_URI = "file://eric.c \         file://Makefile \         file://README.txt"  inherit autotools  do_compile() {     unset CFLAGS CPPFLAGS CXXFLAGS LDFLAGS      cd ${WORKDIR}  
15:24.34woglindeargs
15:24.39woglinde~pastebin
15:24.40ibot[~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://bin.cakephp.org/ , http://asterisk.pastey.net/ , or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude.
15:24.57mrmichaelok
15:25.00mrmichaelI'll use one of those
15:25.01pb_so, what exactly is in the eric_0.1-r97i.6_armv7a.ipk that does get created?
15:25.11mrmichaeljust one kernel object
15:25.12mrmichaeleric.ko
15:25.14mrmichaelshould be in it
15:25.20mrmichaelthat's all I want
15:25.21pb_right, but what actually _is_ in it?
15:25.44mrmichaelhow can I print the contents of the package? I don't know the command
15:26.13pb_or, to put it another way, what makes you think that this package doesn't contain the things you want it to?
15:26.33pb_you can use dpkg-deb -c, or "ipkg files" if it's installed on your target, or bust it apart manually with ar and cpio.
15:26.58mrmichaelhttp://asterisk.pastey.net/149866
15:27.03mrmichaelthere's my pastey :)
15:27.25woglindedpkg -X fooo.deb moo/
15:27.31woglindeunpacks it
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15:37.54mrmichaelI see!  The DOCUMENT archive is empty.!
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15:45.46mrmichaeleric_0.1-r97i.6_armv7a.ipk contains exactly what I want
15:46.10mrmichaelthen there's a dbg and a dev version which are empty
15:46.15mrmichaelthey contain only /.
15:46.33mrmichaelis that the right behavior of the default do_package() {}
15:46.34mrmichael?
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17:12.43wondiwsHi everyone
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17:49.55blindvtkhem, ping
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17:51.14blindvtkhem, i don't have enough diskspace nowadays, could you 'git mv ./libpthread/nptl/sysdeps/generic/unwind.h include/' and see if that breaks ARM EABI compilation of libubacktrace? TIA
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17:59.09blindvtkhem, (see ML)
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19:24.01woglindehi frans
19:24.14woglindeups effem
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19:29.30florianWe still can't send tickets...
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19:33.17eFfeMhi woglinde, all
19:34.20blindvtis some native english speaker around?
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19:35.42blindvti'd /but with an FLAGS parameter/s/an/a/ ;# no? I can parse 'an fd' but not 'an flag'..
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19:37.39blindvteFfeM, i suppose your english is better than mine.
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19:49.01eFfeMI'd say it is a flag (or a FLAGS in your example)
19:49.15eFfeM(sorry did not see the q, was typing an email)
19:50.48eFfeMblindvt: and there is always the google test: search for "a flag" gives 9.600.000 hits) search for "an flag" gives 36.700 hits
19:50.53Jay7iirc, 'an' is used with words starting from vowels
19:51.19Jay7an apple e.g.
19:51.53jconnoll1heh, that's right.
19:51.55eFfeMJay7: that is more or less correct, afaik an fd would also be ok as you say "efde" so when saying it it is like it starts with a vowel
19:52.10blindvtand it's "an eff dee", thus 'i open an fd' is ok since it's pronounced as a vowel
19:52.15CosmicPenguinwait.  what?
19:52.56eFfeMthen again the google test says "a fd" 1.470.000 hits, "an fd" 248.000
19:53.05eFfeMso not too sure about that
19:53.16eFfeMi was never good at english ;-)
19:53.43Jay7me too :)
19:54.04blindvtoh well :P
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20:31.14woglindeblindvt I will see him tomorrow
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20:35.28tharveykhem, kergoth you guys around today?  want to discuss SDK some more
20:37.31tharveyI find that the issues I'm seeing with building autoconf projects with meta-toolchain largely stem from the fact that the various binconfig's (ie freetype-config) from the -dev ipks (ie freetype-dev.ipk) do 'not' have their paths fixed up as the ones in OE's STAGING_DIR so when autoconf uses them they spit out / based paths incorrectly
20:38.10tharveyI figure this is because the -dev packages are also meant to be installed on a target that has gcc, yet because they are also used to provide libs for sdk they conflict
20:38.54tharveyI'm still learning about autoconf but I'm curious why these various -config's exist at all instead of just using pkgconfig which looks to be a much cleaner/flexible way to do the same thing
20:40.08kergothbecause they existed long before pkgconfig ever did
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20:41.28tharveyok, I buy that - so how do we get around the issue of them not providing the right paths when used with sdk?
20:41.50tharveyand why hasn't autoconf updated to use pkgconfig?
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20:42.38pb_tharvey: to use pkgconfig for what?
20:43.17tharveyjust curious why autoconf hasn't evolved to use pkgconfig instead of the various -config apps to obtain cflags/libs etc
20:43.31pb_autoconf itself doesn't get to choose
20:43.55pb_generally, those checks are done by m4 macros which are shipped by the libraries in question
20:43.56tharveylook at freetype-config for example - its a stand-alone shell script that provides the same thing pkgconfig freetype2 provides - yet pkgconfig is more flexible and maintainable
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20:44.52tharveyoh?  I thought the m4 macros came as part of autoconf - or at least can be overridden by macro's for your system
20:45.16tharveywouldn't you want macros tuned for your host (or sdk in my case) to be making those decisions?
20:45.54pb_in the case of freetype, the macro in question is AC_CHECK_FT2, and it's distributed (primarily) as part of freetype
20:46.24pb_I'm fairly sure you will not find that in the autoconf source tarball, though I haven't checked
20:46.58pb_autoconf itself is quite a simple-minded tool, and in some sense it is a tool from a bygone era.
20:47.28pb_it doesn't really have any semantic knowledge of the things it's testing for, and it certainly doesn't have any understanding that there is an equivalence between pkg-config and freetype-config.
20:47.39tharveyI would guess your right - its also not part of libfreetype-dev
20:48.37tharveypb_, so that you understand the issue I'm trying to work out:  I can't figure out how to use meta-toolchain sdk for example to build gd
20:49.29tharveyI'm supporting an sdk and trying to document how to use it appropriately and the docs that tell me I simply need to do a './configure --host=$TARGET_SYS' are incorrect in this case, and I assume for a lot of other cases as well
20:49.51tharveyie, anything that looks for X headers also adds / to your CFLAGS which is not correct for an sdk
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20:51.23pb_yeah, that is an unfortunate piece of suckage
20:51.52pb_I don't think there is any "silver bullet" fix for that; I can't think of any way of patching autoconf that would make it work better (and not introduce other obscure failure modes)
20:52.14tharveywould it help to include our own autoconf in sdk?
20:52.30pb_no, not really.
20:52.42pb_if you're just running ./configure, autoconf doesn't get invoked at that stage
20:53.01pb_autoconf is used (at some prior time) to generate the configure script, but it isn't needed at the point where configure runs
20:53.33tharveybut you can run autoreconf - just not sure what can be done to make that work either.... it still ends up pulilng invalid macro's
20:53.52pb_shipping your own h4x0red autoconf might work if you taught people to always rerun autoreconf, but that can lead to a world of pain of its own so it is probably not a good idea in general.
20:54.03tharveyunless perhaps the rule is to run autoreconf and macro's in the SDK are used that do the right thing... I think that's what khem was telling me 'should happen'
20:54.34pb_yeah, in a perfect world that is exactly what would happen
20:54.41tharveyI'm ok with telling people they have to run autoreconf (oe for example does this to build gd w/o any patches)
20:57.11tharveystill trying to understand why khem keeps talking about libtool helping here and where that comes into play
20:57.34pb_I don't understand why libtool would be involved either.
20:58.12pb_unless he's talking about something to do with paths in .la files, but that is a separate issue (and probably irrelevant for you)
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21:00.31tharveyhmm.. can't see to find via opkg/info/*.list where freetype2.m4 comes from in sdk
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21:04.23tharveypb_, how do you figure out that AC_CHECK_FT2 is responsible for a check?  looking at configure scripts seems difficult - there is no reference there back to that macro, and I can't figure out what includes that macro either (its not in configure.ac)
21:09.14pb_ah, so, gd is an unfortunate example of a library which doesn't use the macros, and instead has cut-and-pasted them into its own configure.ac script
21:09.50woglinde_hm isnt gd older than freetype?
21:10.09pb_probably, but it supports freetype as a build option
21:10.27woglinde_pb sure and the only dev knowing about tools left the project?
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21:12.16pb_tharvey: so, in this case, even shipping your own macros won't help.  I don't think there is any feasible way of fixing this other than shipping a freetype-config utility which does the right thing.
21:12.39woglinde_pb fixing gd
21:12.47woglinde_and sent the patch upstream
21:13.06pb_well, sure, but that's not what we are talking about
21:13.34pb_actually, I guess you could provide a custom AC_PATH_PROG which noticed when you were asking for freetype-config and instead handed you back "pkg-config freetype2".
21:13.45tharveyno, I don't think gd is 'wrong'
21:13.48pb_that would probably be good enough to keep gd happy, at least
21:14.01tharveypb_, not sure how you say my own macros wont work
21:14.59pb_tharvey: well, as you said, gd's configure.ac doesn't use freetype's macro, it has its own hand-coded test for freetype
21:15.25tharveyie if I can find out what pkg in the sdk provides freetype2.m4 I could re-write it to use pkgconfig for example, or provide arg to config-freetype which is another route that adds a prefix
21:15.59pb_well, yeah, but that won't help with gd since it doesn't appear to actually use freetype2.m4
21:16.09pb_dnl FreeType configure tests snarfed from libwmf ..
21:16.09pb_AC_ARG_WITH(freetype,dnl
21:16.12pb_etc
21:16.17pb_is what it seems to be doing
21:16.18tharveyah... thats why I couldn't find it in configure.ac - so where is it handcoded?  ie if I do an autoreconf isn't configure completely regenerated from configure.ac and others (what others?)  - if I run autoreconf it still has the check for freetype in there
21:16.29pb_yeah, it's in configure.ac
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21:19.03tharveyok so in this case you 'can' consider gd 'broken' in that it doesn't use the std macro's to do freetype detection - but even if it did that detection might also do the wrong thing (but could be updated/provided correctly in the sdk if autoreconfigure is used
21:19.34pb_right
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21:22.05tharveyany idea what provides freetype2.m4 in sdk?  not clear why grep freetype $SDK_PATH/usr/lib/opkg/info/*.list and grep freetype $SDK_PATH/$TARGET_SYS/usr/lib/opkg/info/*.list come up empty
21:22.35woglinde_libfreetype6-dev: /usr/share/aclocal/freetype2.m4
21:22.35pb_I would have expected it to be in libfreetype-dev.
21:22.40woglinde_its on ubuntu
21:22.46tharveydoh nvr mind... it comes from libfreetype-dev
21:22.47pb_if it's not in there then that sounds like a packaging error in the recipe
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21:31.37tharveyI notice that the choice taken for OE internal build for gd and likely others is to hack all the *-config files to do the right thing (binconfig.bbclass) - wondering if that kind of general approach wouldn't be better for an sdk.  Such as packaging up the various *-configs and installing them in the SDK path or something
21:33.45pb_yeah, that might be a fine plan
21:34.30tharveyI'll post to the ml and discuss that
21:35.38tharveystill want to hear from khem about how libtool may affect this and how/when to use LIBTOOL_SYSROOT_PATH in an SDK - he seemed to indicate that if gd's configure was doing the wrong thing after running autoreconf that it must be libtools fault
21:37.58pb_yes, I am still baffled as to what he can have meant by that
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21:58.40Crofton|workTartarus, are we suppose to ack pull requests for the release maintenance branch?
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21:59.11TartarusYou may.  I haven't pulled stefan's yet just because my laptop has been all busy-melty today
21:59.24TartarusAnd Koen's hasn't yet had the 24h review period
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22:02.41tharveyhmm... can't recall, can you not have symlinks in ipks?
22:03.05woglinde_good nite
22:03.10ka6sox-workCrofton|work, ping?
22:03.19Crofton|workpiong
22:03.26Crofton|workTartarus, ok
22:03.40Crofton|workI need to send one for system-tools-updates
22:03.57ka6sox-work<PROTECTED>
22:04.02ka6sox-workwhoops
22:04.03ka6sox-workhee he
22:04.37ka6sox-workwants the github system out of his name :D
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22:07.18Crofton|worksre
22:08.02ka6sox-workokay I'll work with philb on getting that done
22:08.09ka6sox-workthen we can use the http: method too.
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