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06:34.58mckoangood morning
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08:12.18tasslehoffI have a couple of initscripts in my oe-classic image. Must I change them to systemd, or can I still use them as-is in oe-core?
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08:59.37tasslehoffI've manually downloaded the linux-omap_2.6.39.bb from the angstrom mirror. How/where do I extract the tar.gz to my download dir?
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09:17.14tasslehoffalternatively, is there a mirror for linux-omap (2.6)?
09:23.41tasslehoffdodges a tumbleweed
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09:29.34lautrivi have a checksum mismatch in binutils-2.20.1.bb, can anyone confirm this or maybe someone hacked gnu.org ?
09:32.37tasslehofflautriv: that has been a problem. http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2011-September/034937.html
09:33.01tasslehoffhaven't read that link myself
09:34.16tasslehoffA commit from Sep 7 fixes checksums.
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10:18.53tasslehoffAnyone got any advice on how to make linux-omap_2.6.39.bb use my downloaded tar.gz instead of the non-existing repo at kernel.org?
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10:29.43tasslehoffI've put the extracted repo into downloads/git2/ and tried to create a <gitrepo>.done in ~/downloads, but it still tries to fetch
10:32.48tasslehoffCrofton: did you make it work with cpufrequtils the other day?
10:40.55Croftonyeah, koen sent me a tarball of the missing erpo :)
10:41.05CroftonI suspect things will return soon though
10:42.11tasslehoffCrofton: it's the tarball-solution I'm after as well. you only had to add it to the git2-dir?
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11:04.28tasslehoffnevermind, I'm pulling the repo from sakoman
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13:23.41CIA-7703Matthew McClintock <msm@freescale.com> 07master * rdca46cc2e1 10bitbake.git/lib/bb/fetch2/__init__.py:
13:23.41CIA-77fetch2: Export additional variables to the fetchers
13:23.41CIA-77git could need these environment variables when working behind
13:23.41CIA-77a proxy
13:23.41CIA-77Signed-off-by: Matthew McClintock <msm@freescale.com>
13:23.41CIA-77Signed-off-by: Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>
13:32.09darknightehi all.
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14:18.45ericbenls
14:18.55ericbenoops :)
14:18.59ericbenhi GNUtoo|laptop
14:19.09GNUtoo|laptophi ericben
14:19.18GNUtoo|laptopPM is better
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14:24.42JaMaCrofton: Crofton|work: ping
14:24.54Crofton|workpong
14:25.06Crofton|workhow do I upload a file to the wiki?
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15:00.45xxiaoi need build OE rootfs that has dependency on the kernel, do I have to build virtual/kernel manually before i bitbake the rootfs?
15:01.06xxiaosomehow the kernel was not invoked for build when i bake the rootfs
15:02.41xxiaoi did have kernel-modules, kernel-image etc in RRECOMMENDS
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15:55.24ka6soxkhem ping?
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16:17.14ka6soxcbrake, you about?
16:17.25cbrakeka6sox: yup for a bit
16:20.31ka6soxokay kewl...
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16:21.23UnderSampledHellp
16:21.25UnderSampledHello
16:22.31UnderSampledI'm just "getting started", and on the getting started page, in the "setup the environment" section, it mentions that I could create a script to setup the environment
16:22.55UnderSampledbut from what I can figure out, scripts cannot change their parent shells environment
16:23.16UnderSampledhow am I actually supposed to set the vars?
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16:34.39tasslehoffUnderSampled: source the script: instead of "./script.sh" do ". ./script.sh".
16:36.01UnderSampledtasslehoff: sweet
16:36.03UnderSampledThanks
16:36.18tasslehoffUnderSampled: 3 & 4 in http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/07/execute-shell-script/ :)
16:37.31fraywe use a sourced script in oe-core to set the values of the environment..
16:37.49frayI have a version of the script that can also work with tcsh... default one only works on POSIX shells
16:38.05fray(and no, I don't use tcsh, someone asked me to make the script so I did..)  ;)
16:38.45UnderSampledwell, it works
16:38.56UnderSamplednow I can start on the fun stuff :D
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17:24.44UnderSampledWhat is the difference between OE and yocto?
17:26.13GNUtoo|laptopyocto is an umbrella project
17:26.20GNUtoo|laptopoe is a build system
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18:30.02florianre
18:30.24UnderSampledkhem, GNUtoo|laptop: so, if I am just wanting to make an install of linux, I should use yocto?
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18:50.55GNUtoo|laptopUnderSampled, if you just want to install it try angstrom
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20:22.52msmxxiao: does kernel-image not get put in the rootfs?
20:24.06msmxxiao: kernel-image makes an rpm with /boot/uImage-XYZ
20:24.24msmI would think if that is resolved to IMAGE_INSTALL somehow, then it would be in the root fs
20:25.51khemkernel image is separate
20:26.03khemI dont think it gets into rfs
20:27.41msmwould you suggest adding another package for this then?
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20:28.10khemI think usually folks put kernel on different partition
20:28.17khemhave a look at LSB images
20:28.20khemwhat do they dp
20:28.22khemdo
20:28.39khemthey might be bundlin kernel along with rest
20:29.02msmwhat do you mean by partition? what about the scenario where the rootfs needs to run a virt machine on the target
20:29.17msmin that case we need to include a kernel image along with a rfs inside another rfs
20:29.39khemI meant classical embedded scenario
20:31.03msmkhem: im just brainstorming how to do these things
20:31.03msmor he best approach
20:31.07msmill have to do some of this shortly
20:31.13kergoth_msm: by partition he means different flash partition.
20:31.42kergoth_don't think u-boot supports loading a kernel out of a filesystem.. does it?
20:31.45khemkergoth_: right
20:31.47msmkergoth: oh, xxiao is not trying to do what im talking about
20:32.02msmkergoth: some filesystems, yes...
20:32.22fraykhem, afaik kernel isn't part of the LSB images either.. lsb doesn't specify how the kernel exists or where.. other then there should be a /boot "directory" that may contain the kernel and some associated parts
20:32.40fray(and I'm not sure the LSB even specifies that, it might be the FHS by reference from the LSB)
20:33.22khemok
20:33.35fraymsm, do the current kernel recipes generate kernel "packages"?
20:34.13fraycause if they do, then it should be possible to update things to install those packages.. the problem is "where" to install it, since the install locations can be nebulous from architecture to architecture.. (other then the FHS /boot suggestion)
20:35.12msmfray: yes
20:35.29msmrpm -qlp tmp/deploy/rpm/p5020ds_64b/kernel-image-3.0.4-00026-gd1bed6e-dirty-3.0.1-r2.p5020ds_64b.rpm
20:35.29msm/boot
20:35.30msm/boot/uImage-3.0.4-00026-gd1bed6e-dirty
20:35.32msmfor example
20:35.34frayif there is a package it should be possible to add it to the image variable...
20:35.43msmfray: thought so
20:36.14frayonly thing is that kernel packages (in rpm) are unqiue and if you want multiple kernels, we don't have anything there to enable them..  (of course if the files don't conflict and the main package name doesn't conflict -- it should work)
20:38.06msmfray: next step, include core-image-minimal in core-image-lsb or something like that
20:38.07khemthats where tar beats rpm
20:38.19khemor any package management :)
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21:10.06tzangerhm. has anyone ever seen the PHP recipe in Angstrom fail with "fork() not implemented"? It's during PHP's configure script. this is a normal 64-bit ubuntu 10.04 or 10.10 system
21:23.33khemtzanger: I did not see it
21:29.41floriantzanger: an uclibc based build?
21:40.27tzangerflorian: no, standard glibc for an x86 target system
21:44.13florianstrange
21:46.39tzangerflorian: agreed. that's why I asked. :-)
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23:58.25khemtzanger: what is your target arch
23:58.35khemtzanger: is it some mmuless thing

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