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| 04:54.27 | Ceida | hi all |
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| 04:54.37 | Ceida | hello |
| 04:59.40 | ka6sox | yawn |
| 05:01.42 | Ceida | i want to make my own board with some TI DSP Chips , any tutorial for that from begining to very advanced... ? |
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| 05:05.28 | Ceida | no one idea? :( |
| 05:09.18 | erwt | Ceida, follow the basic tutorial on OE website |
| 05:29.35 | Ceida | erwt , for example i will just buy DM355 cpu and i will make my own custom board , OE website has all? |
| 05:35.59 | ka6sox | Ceida, you would have to do all the kernel work to make it happen but oe can do that, I made it work on a DM355 EVM. |
| 05:40.01 | Ceida | ka6sox , DM355 ? OE ? |
| 05:40.22 | Ceida | how can i make my own board with OpenEmbedded ? with DM355 yes |
| 05:56.21 | erwt | Ceida, how much have u worked on OE |
| 05:57.25 | Ceida | erwt , i ve modified kernel configs just and made some Clutter Apps on Framebuffer... |
| 06:00.49 | erwt | Ceida, can u create ur own reciepe for available boards |
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| 07:40.34 | yury | hi guys |
| 07:41.15 | yury | little help with compiling OE, please? |
| 07:42.41 | snkt | yury, wat help do you require? |
| 07:43.18 | yury | snkt, i'm nearing completion of virtual/kernel build.. |
| 07:43.33 | yury | only i'm getting this: | AS arch/arm/mm/proc-xscale.o |
| 07:43.38 | yury | | /tmp/ccmt7sQV.s: Error: .size expression for xscsale_dma_a0_map_area does not evaluate to a constant |
| 07:43.47 | yury | is this a common error, possibly? |
| 07:46.53 | snkt | yury, for which board r u building a image.... |
| 07:47.18 | yury | snkt: for rokr e2 phone (openezx?) |
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| 08:06.03 | erwt | has anyone worked on reading nand flash unique ID . |
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| 08:47.13 | bluelightning | morning all |
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| 08:56.05 | ivan____ | Good afternoon! I can not cope with a problem libtool-native. Please help to understand. My system ubuntu 11.10 i386. Error status code more low. http://paste.org/pastebin/view/40353 |
| 09:02.56 | tasslehoff | Working to iron out the kinks when going from classic to core. What could be the reason I have to start networking and dropbear manually after boot? |
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| 09:04.50 | tasslehoff | this is pretty much an angstrom console-base-image with a bit of extra stuff. |
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| 09:09.19 | ivan____ | Excuse for my English. But I haven't understood you. How it is connected with libtool-native? How of it to get rid? |
| 09:10.48 | bluelightning | ivan____: it's not, he's talking about something else |
| 09:11.25 | bluelightning | ivan____: could you please pastebin the top part of your built output which includes the version info? |
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| 09:13.05 | Jin^eLD | mornin |
| 09:16.04 | ivan____ | http://paste.org/pastebin/view/40356 |
| 09:16.17 | bluelightning | tasslehoff: that shouldn't be necessary... perhaps the network interface you're using does not have an auto entry in /etc/network/interfaces...? |
| 09:20.46 | bluelightning | ivan____: hmm... was gnu-config building at the same time as libtool? |
| 09:25.58 | ivan____ | In build process helloworld in a folder sources the archives were downloaded, one of them was libtool-2.4.tar.gz, it was not possible to promote further. Before there were errors with perl, but I have bypassed them having installed 32bit system. |
| 09:34.22 | tasslehoff | bluelightning: it has an entry http://pastebin.com/QCKfnuXm |
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| 09:35.31 | bluelightning | ivan____: try bitbake -c clean libtool-native ; bitbake -c clean gnu-config-native; bitbake gnu-config-native then retry your build |
| 09:36.05 | bluelightning | tasslehoff: hmm, strange... any boot up messages about networking? |
| 09:36.27 | bluelightning | tasslehoff: I built a qemu image recently that starts its networking OK FWIW |
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| 09:41.38 | tasslehoff | bluelightning: not that I can see. dmesg @Â http://pastebin.com/HPi75AK7 if you want to take a look. |
| 09:42.29 | bluelightning | tasslehoff: oh right you're using systemd... I've not done anything with that, maybe you could ask koen about it |
| 09:43.21 | tasslehoff | bluelightning: yeah, or maybe switch away from it, if that's easy |
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| 09:43.52 | bluelightning | tasslehoff: if it is, it soon won't be; koen has said he'll be making it mandatory for angstrom at some point in the near future |
| 09:44.40 | tasslehoff | bluelightning: ah. off to #beagle to bug koen then :) |
| 09:45.04 | bluelightning | tasslehoff: you can probably fix it fairly easy with systemctl but the question is why isn't that already done |
| 09:46.01 | tasslehoff | bluelightning: yeah, so it bears mentioning I guess. this is my first encounter with systemd |
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| 09:46.38 | XorA | morning |
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| 11:52.28 | tasslehoff | according to koen it "looks like the portmap initscript is broken" |
| 11:53.28 | bluelightning | tasslehoff: why should portmap stop dropbear or the network interface itself? AFAIK it's only needed for nfs... |
| 11:54.50 | tasslehoff | hm. perhaps I could try to use openssh instead of dropbear and see if that solves anything |
| 11:55.53 | bluelightning | tasslehoff: if the whole network interface hasn't started, well.. I'm not sure how that could help |
| 12:03.15 | tasslehoff | bluelightning: yeah.. I really have no idea, so I tried attacking in the point where I saw something I could change ;) |
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| 12:28.21 | tasslehoff | In my oe-core image I'm on runlevel 1 - that might explain the missing netstuff? |
| 12:30.14 | bluelightning | tasslehoff: do runlevels still apply with systemd? |
| 12:32.16 | tasslehoff | bluelightning: ehm. perhaps not. I'm on new territory here. apparently need to get the basics. |
| 12:34.33 | bluelightning | I have to admit I don't know either, although they may still be relevant when it's operating in compatibility mode for existing initscripts |
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| 13:17.02 | tasslehoff | how can I switch back to sysvinit? just set IMAGE_INIT_MANAGER and IMAGE_INITSCRIPTS in my image recipe? |
| 13:28.51 | Jin^eLD | tasslehoff: I think so, yes |
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| 13:48.37 | erwt | zecke, i solved the qt compilation program |
| 13:48.49 | tasslehoff | Jin^eLD: and perhaps clean something? it still prints lots of systemd-messages after changing those two |
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| 13:51.20 | Jin^eLD | tasslehoff: maybe someone overwrites your setting? |
| 13:51.58 | Jin^eLD | I did not run into such an issue myself yet, but could be that you indeed have to clean up something.. |
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| 14:20.20 | pb_ | hi all |
| 14:20.31 | Crofton|work | gm |
| 14:20.41 | JaMa | hi |
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| 15:11.39 | pb_ | Does anybody know if ld has an option to control the ordering of the output segments in the executable file? |
| 15:14.58 | tzanger | pb_: those would be the linker files... you'd be digging pretty deep into the linker though for general apps |
| 15:16.22 | pb_ | what do you mean by "the linker files"? |
| 15:16.37 | pb_ | (I'm using bfd ld, by the way, not gold.) |
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| 15:28.47 | pb_ | hm, looks as though ld just can't do it. it seems to want to put all the PT_LOAD regions first and everything else afterwards. |
| 15:28.50 | pb_ | oh well. |
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| 15:51.04 | slapin | Jin^eLD: ping |
| 15:51.09 | Jin^eLD | pong |
| 15:51.13 | Jin^eLD | hi slapin |
| 15:51.25 | slapin | Jin^eLD: hi, how's your flash thingy? |
| 15:52.00 | slapin | Jin^eLD: I mean that NOR flash thing |
| 15:52.28 | slapin | Jin^eLD: which did not want to have jffs2 on |
| 15:52.29 | Jin^eLD | slapin: no progress yet; I reconrigured the kernel to boot from NFS, got unresolved symbols with uclibc, built another image with glibc but did not have time to try it yet; my goal is to try to mount the vendor jffs2 partition and guess the settings |
| 15:52.50 | Jin^eLD | I also found settings that openprotium was using to generate the jffs2 image, but those do not work for me |
| 15:53.03 | slapin | Jin^eLD: hmmmm |
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| 15:53.51 | Jin^eLD | slapin: I'll try the NFS boot with my glibc based image tonight, let's see what I find in flash once I got booted |
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| 16:00.40 | JDuke128 | hi , is there any low cost and good quality SMT Machine for prototype development board ? |
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| 16:06.23 | pb_ | what do you mean by "SMT Machine"? Are you talking about a reflow oven? |
| 16:06.30 | mangomake | I'm trying to build apache thrift for arm in with oe toolchain and getting stuck as configure script wants to compile and run some small test code. If I write a .bb recipe for the thing does oe have some way to run the test code in an emulator or similar in order to get around this issue or do all other recipes have patches to the scripts or just not suffer from this issue? |
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| 16:09.30 | bluelightning | mangomake: usually we disable such tests; this is OK if you can guarantee (via dependencies) that the thing it is testing for is there |
| 16:09.48 | bluelightning | often they are just patched out |
| 16:11.25 | mangomake | bluelightning, ok, thanks |
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| 16:24.51 | slapin | By the way, people, what is difference between SMT and SMD? I know it is very unprofessional question, but anyway... :) |
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| 16:37.30 | Crofton|work | slapin, nothing |
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| 16:47.04 | Crofton|work | ka6sox, am I caought up on dns stuff? |
| 16:47.27 | ka6sox | Crofton|work, for now! |
| 16:47.43 | ka6sox | when we have time we should examine the whole DNS thing. |
| 16:47.57 | Crofton|work | yes |
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| 18:32.05 | fcambus | Hey guys, would like to share this with you, it just got launched : |
| 18:32.05 | fcambus | Echo Linux : a social news site dedicated to Linux and related topics - http://www.echolinux.com |
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| 19:16.39 | Dodji | who do they want to sell us to? |
| 19:17.01 | Dodji | should have added "this time". |
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| 19:32.41 | yury | hello all |
| 19:33.47 | yury | i've built a virtual/kernel and now i'd like to reconfigure it (to make it smaller).. |
| 19:35.05 | yury | 'make menuconfig' from the work directory seems to be the convenient, way, but it 'can't find file Kconfig'.. how do i do this? |
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| 19:36.26 | Jin|away | yury: use bitbake -c devshell yourkernel and in that termainal do ARCH=yourarch make menuconfig, that should work |
| 19:39.00 | yury | Jin|away: by yourkernel, do you mean target name (virtual/kernel) or something else? |
| 19:41.32 | Jin|away | yury: yes, the kernel recipe that is actually being built for your target |
| 19:42.00 | Jin|away | like, my kernel's recipe name is linux-storcenter, so I am doing: bitbake -c devshell linux-storcenter |
| 19:42.36 | yury | Jin: okay, thank you, trying to do that (have to reconfigure recipes for terminal program name, too) |
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| 21:10.33 | kergoth | hmm, anyone tried the depexp ui lately? doesn't seem to be working anymore |
| 21:10.35 | kergoth | tries again |
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| 21:14.55 | msm | kergoth: ive noticed it takes a while to populate the contents |
| 21:15.02 | msm | after the screen initial opens |
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| 21:15.30 | kergoth | hmm, maybe i didn't wait long enough :) |
| 21:15.38 | kergoth | methinks a progress bar is in order |
| 21:15.47 | ddoman | any1 has built qt-e with openvg, not opengl-es? which one works better in performance? |
| 21:16.09 | kergoth | trying to get a handle on the nativesdk/crosssdk bits. haven't messed with them much yet |
| 21:20.59 | msm | don't header files go in the -dev packages normally? |
| 21:21.15 | kergoth | yep |
| 21:21.54 | msm | the default -dbg rules don't seem to be picking fiels installed too /usr/include |
| 21:22.03 | msm | this is here: |
| 21:22.03 | msm | # FILES_dtc-dev=${includedir} |
| 21:22.09 | msm | git I think you need a # FILES_dtc-dev=${includedir}/* |
| 21:22.19 | msm | git = but |
| 21:22.24 | kergoth | nope, it should be traversing any listed directory |
| 21:22.39 | msm | which dir does it traverse? |
| 21:22.40 | kergoth | the glob would work too of course. either will |
| 21:22.46 | kergoth | ${includedir} |
| 21:22.53 | kergoth | if it exists, it'll traverse it and pull everything in there |
| 21:23.20 | msm | is it the sysroot or the tmp/work/${arch}/${package}/image/ directory? |
| 21:23.28 | kergoth | behaves the same way BBFILES does, actually. either globs or directory recursion |
| 21:23.44 | kergoth | its the image directory. do_package splits up from ${D} into the separate package dirs using the files vars |
| 21:24.13 | kergoth | of course, the sysroot population comes from there as well, nowadays :) |
| 21:24.21 | kergoth | but the sysroot population isn't affected by FILES |
| 21:24.34 | msm | hmm |
| 21:25.00 | msm | so i have files in /usr/include in the image directory |
| 21:25.25 | msm | but i get no -dbg package |
| 21:25.27 | kergoth | then those should end up in the -dev package, yes |
| 21:25.31 | kergoth | -dev != -dbg |
| 21:25.41 | msm | err |
| 21:25.50 | msm | i mean i get no dev package, i do have the dbg package |
| 21:26.10 | kergoth | overly greedy glob in an earlier files var? |
| 21:26.20 | msm | its all the default PACKAGES |
| 21:26.20 | kergoth | it splits in order of PACKAGES |
| 21:26.30 | msm | nothing has those files |
| 21:26.31 | kergoth | ah, no changes to FILES? thats odd, it should be behaving then |
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| 21:26.50 | msm | let me try adding the ${includedir}/* and see what happens |
| 21:27.13 | woglinde | hi |
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| 21:29.57 | msm | kergoth: no effect… hmm weird |
| 21:30.42 | woglinde | what are you trying? |
| 21:30.43 | msm | kergoth: the normal package is picking up stuff, dbg and staticdev as well just not dev |
| 21:31.02 | msm | im trying to get my recipe to properly pickup files in /usr/include for the -dev package |
| 21:31.16 | msm | the default rules are no working - when it looks like they shuold |
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| 22:13.41 | msm | kergoth: this package is in packages-split |
| 22:13.56 | msm | kergoth: it just never makes the rpm - maybe this is only created if something requires it |
| 22:32.47 | kergoth | I wonder if anyone's played around with bsd userland pieces on top of a linux kernel for embedded. wonder how itd compare to busybox vs gnu components. would probably be physically smaller than gnu for a proper-tools setup. course there might be compatibility issues trying to build stuff on target with that |
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| 22:35.07 | kergoth | and of course some of it just plain wouldn't be compatible, but even so |
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| 23:00.30 | msm | do we have a virt for busybox components? |
| 23:00.45 | msm | for example, if something requries /bin/sh |
| 23:01.06 | kergoth | for some things we do, with update-alternatives. not sure if we do for everything, though |
| 23:01.10 | kergoth | see task-proper-tools |
| 23:03.46 | msm | task-core-tools? |
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