IRC log for #oe on 20120111

00:02.14cs_nbpgawddammit I shopuldn't have cleared the kernel source too -.-
00:03.06floriantworaz changed quite a lot today... I should rebase my changes
00:03.23florianargh... but not before I go some sleep
00:03.26cs_nbponoz? more recent than 18 hours?
00:04.06cs_nbpUnable to fetch URL git://github.com/tworaz/linux.git;protocol=git;branch=v3.1.8-nbpro0 from any source.' wth
00:04.12cs_nbplooks like sleep for me too
00:04.44florianyeah... he moved some stuff around
00:05.10cs_nbpagain?
00:05.32floriananyone else seen this effect at you clean a target but when you build it again only a pile of setscene tasks runs?
00:05.54cs_nbpyyyupp rings a bell :D
00:08.01cs_nbpbtw repo seems to be completely broken atm better don'e check out anything
00:08.30cs_nbppackage linux-dummy-1.0-r1: task do_fetch: Started
00:08.35cs_nbpo_O
00:12.31floriandreams of a large SSD drive for the build server
00:13.38cs_nbp40x 4GB CF RAID0
00:14.50floriancs_nbp: rather http://www.golem.de/1201/88917.html
00:20.20florianhrm... left the USB adapter at the office
00:20.24cs_nbpflorian: kind of reminds me a bit of my amiga, i had 4MB RAM of which 2MB were battery powered and lived through a reboot
00:20.38florian:-)
00:20.48cs_nbpflorian: if you put the system in there
00:20.52cs_nbpwoosh
00:22.01cs_nbpbtw they don't say anything about the price at your link
00:22.05cs_nbp;)
00:23.14florianfor a good reason ;)
00:23.25cs_nbpyeh not enough space :D
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00:26.02floriancs_nbp: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~florian/files/nBkProOs.img_3.1.1-nbpro0-00627-gedbc7ec
00:26.51cs_nbphey txh, it's on the way
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00:27.24floriancs_nbp: It boots from first SD partition (tested) and *should* try some other if this fails (not tested yet).
00:27.37murianiSD? really?
00:27.50murianior you mean sd(x)?
00:27.52florianIt expects an ext4 filesystem on mmcblk0p1
00:27.56murianioh
00:27.56murianinice
00:28.08cs_nbpah 1st partition
00:28.16cs_nbpfor a change
00:28.23murianicrap, now I have no use for the 8GB cf I just bought :P
00:28.28cs_nbpthink microsd in adapter should work
00:28.33murianishould
00:28.37florianif this fails to mount it would try sda2, sdb1...
00:28.38murianiI have one of those handy, actually
00:28.40murianiah
00:28.43cs_nbpyou think it would get recognized?
00:28.54murianiwell
00:29.00murianiI doubt sdhc support
00:29.17florianmuriani: I would... I have a camera wich suports CF only :)
00:29.26murianihaha
00:29.59murianiit'd probably cost more to post it to you than I paid for it >_<
00:30.15cs_nbpmy 3 IGEL mainboards have only slots for CF hd
00:30.33cs_nbpI doubt that, in germany they are pretty expensive
00:30.48florianand letter post is comparably cheap
00:31.03murianiright, and cf is cheap here.
00:31.11cs_nbpput it in a bottle, put a gps tag on it and throw it into the ocean. then email the gps tag id
00:31.16murianihence, possibly more to post than I paid
00:31.19murianihahaha
00:31.20murianinice
00:31.41murianithat's either a very slow, or very expensive delivery method
00:31.48florianpatiently and tired waits for the filesystem build to finish
00:32.03cs_nbpwhut you can finish it?
00:32.12cs_nbpwhat am I doin the whole time :D
00:32.49florianyeah... somehow it finished her one time. Just trying to repeat that
00:33.23cs_nbpjust don't update anything or you end up w linux-dummy
00:33.35cs_nbpi already feel like linux-dummy
00:34.30cs_nbptworaz sent me a patch for upower
00:35.16cs_nbpnow it''s too late I put gobject-introspection-native already in there
00:35.27cs_nbpyeeh dload complete
00:35.34cs_nbpready to brick my book
00:36.18cs_nbpok since you tried from sd ill try from cf first
00:36.51cs_nbpneed to format to ext4 though
00:37.42florianfat is not really a good idea for linux filesystems ;)
00:39.00cs_nbpwas used to it from earlier gta02
00:39.06cs_nbpandroid
00:39.34cs_nbpk got kernel and rootfs in place
00:40.33cs_nbpdam
00:40.37cs_nbpno kernel panic :
00:40.39cs_nbpp
00:40.57cs_nbpbut like 400000 uncorrectable error
00:41.05cs_nbp-74 ecc error
00:41.13cs_nbpubi error unable to read
00:41.41cs_nbpis that normal or should I stop that
00:42.07florianso far its fine... the kernel tries to attach ubi first. but this is likely to fail...
00:42.13cs_nbpah i know
00:42.23cs_nbpi got a vfat sdcard in the slot
00:42.24florianno ubi in nand
00:42.26cs_nbp-.-
00:42.51florianmaybe we should make a kernel without nand support so that there is no danger to damage ce
00:43.48cs_nbpdam I pulled th sdcard out and the book bricked w black screen
00:43.59cs_nbpno resetbutton workin
00:44.04cs_nbptakin out batteries now
00:44.24florianremoving the sd card should be harmless
00:45.27murianiuh oh
00:45.43cs_nbpk so i should let a couple o mins of the uncorrectable error pass
00:46.12cs_nbpas admin naturel reflex is to do filesystem check :D
00:46.32cs_nbpbut makes no sense -.-
00:46.45florianheh
00:47.38cs_nbpstill uncorrectable error
00:49.43florianI'll make a kernel image without NAND support if you remind me tomorrow...
00:49.59cs_nbpnp i guess^^
00:50.40cs_nbperr up to which block will that error count up to
00:50.58florianits quite easy and then there is no danger someone damages ce or whatever is installed in nand
00:51.50cs_nbpk that's 7 straight minutes of uncorrectable error -.- really normal?
00:51.57cs_nbpor should I try SD
00:52.38florianhmm no... it does not make sense. its because the driver does not understand the ecc data ce uses
00:52.56florianI do not see this because my nand was formatted using Linux
00:53.05florianformatted/written
00:53.18cs_nbpk, so it may take a loooong time to boot :D
00:54.13floriancs_nbp: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~florian/files/jlime-lxde-image-netbookpro.tar.gz
00:54.19florianbut wait
00:54.27florianits still uploading for ~10min
00:54.37florianneed sleep
00:54.41florianGood night!
00:54.47cs_nbpwell waiting is what I'm doin anyways
00:54.49cs_nbpgnZ
00:55.05muriani'night
00:55.13floriangn
00:57.29cs_nbp*waiting *******************.......................................................................................................................................................
00:58.18cs_nbpyay I can see lxde
01:00.27cs_nbpbut can't login
01:00.34cs_nbpbut anyways am amazed
01:02.47cs_nbpjust need to edit away login screen and install onscreen kbd
01:29.05cs_nbpk cyaZall tomorrow zZzzZZZZZzz
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08:23.49mckoangood morning
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10:36.17CIA-903Lianhao Lu <lianhao.lu@intel.com> 07master * r9d8f45407c 10bitbake.git/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
10:36.18CIA-9bitbake: Automatically start local PR service.
10:36.18CIA-9[YOCTO #1126]
10:36.18CIA-9A local PR service will be started and stopped automatically along
10:36.18CIA-9with the bitbake invocation/ternimation.
10:36.18CIA-9This local PR service will be started only and if only when the
10:36.18CIA-9PRSERV_HOST is set to 'localhost' and PRSERV_PORT is set to '0'.
10:36.27CIA-903Lianhao Lu <lianhao.lu@intel.com> 07master * r379567ee87 10bitbake.git/ (4 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
10:36.28CIA-9bitbake/PRservice: Added no_hist mode and export/import.
10:36.28CIA-9[YOCTO #1556]
10:36.28CIA-91. Added the package_arch into the index to the DB table. Because the
10:36.28CIA-9change in PACKAGE_ARCH will results in different checksum, and it is
10:36.29CIA-9better to have seperate PR value domains for differnt PACKAGE_ARCH of
10:36.29CIA-9the same pakcage.
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11:41.08cs_nbpflorian: hi. I'f you're wondering about some night watch mail: that was your kernel with tworaz rootfs
11:41.30florianhi cs_nbp
11:41.33cs_nbpflorian: thought might be important since it shows kbd error is not in the kernel
11:42.05floriancs_nbp: amazing... maybe my X is bad. need to switch to the later userland
11:42.52cs_nbpflorian: isn't as bad as that - as far as I can say yours runs smoother and touchscreen is more responsive
11:43.00cs_nbpflorian: only kbd missing
11:43.18cs_nbpflorian: btw do I need to start dbus to see a pcmcia wifi card?
11:44.03floriancs_nbp: no, I don't think so
11:44.18cs_nbpflorian: ah then it must be the driver ;)
11:44.22florianwell bits like networkmanager might use it
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11:47.47cs_nbplets see if the repo is still messed up
11:51.59cs_nbputterly broken still-.-
11:52.37cs_nbpI'm getting loads of ERROR: Nothing RPROVIDES 'modutils-depmod'
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12:01.01cs_nbp* starts from complete scratch -.-
12:07.11cs_nbpbtw don't buy dell printers, we just got 20 2350 that rattle like a truck and got alpha firmware that keps crashing
12:10.59cs_nbpperhaps they should use oe too :D
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12:23.59ant_workcs_nbp: about your 'modutils-depmod', seems a blast from the past (I was bit long ago :)
12:24.08ant_worksee bottom http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2012-January/015914.html
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12:26.21ant_workgrep in your layers and find the offending recipe
12:27.24cs_nbpnvm ant, I deleted everything and started from 0
12:27.30cs_nbpjust to be sure
12:27.49cs_nbpa lot of stuff was moved around and changed in one repo
12:27.55ant_worknot enough if the metadata is broken :/
12:28.01cs_nbpand stuff stopped working
12:28.19cs_nbpthat's true
12:28.38cs_nbpbut I wanted to be sure that it's not due to my tree
12:28.40cs_nbp;)
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12:48.30erwti want to include a tightvnc  in my minimal-image.bb file unfortunately i get  http://pastebin.com/tHGpvh4u
12:49.07erwtbut it works when i include vnc or x11vnc
12:51.59pb_that is indeed unfortunate
12:52.06pb_where are you getting the tightvnc recipe from?
12:53.00erwtpb_, from vnc folder
12:53.52erwtin recipes
12:54.15pb_oh, right, legacy oe
12:54.31pb_hm.  well, there's nothing very obviously wrong with that.  what happens if you try to build it directly with bitbake -b?
12:54.55erwtit builds
12:55.46pb_oh, I see
12:55.55pb_it doesn't actually provide "tightvnc"
12:55.56pb_heh
12:56.15pb_so you need to either fix it so it does, or depend on something that it does provide.
12:57.10erwthow ?
12:57.37erwthow do i use RDEPENDS ?
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13:13.43cs_nbpeverything working out now it seems (not getting linux-dummy-rc1 kernel anymore :D)
13:18.56erwtpb_,
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13:21.52likewisehi otavio, just read your pm
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13:47.18erwthow do i include a particular package in my recipe even after getting this error  http://pastebin.com/tHGpvh4u
13:53.18cs_nbpbrb
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13:57.20cs_nbpflorian: is there something online you can recommend to read that would help me optimize the kernel config?
13:58.41floriancs_nbp: not really... the point is that we should get built in whatever we need in any case... filesystem, usb, keyboard...
13:59.50cs_nbpflorian: yes that's clear.
14:00.38cs_nbpflorian:btw kernel building is working again
14:09.50floriancs_nbp: ok... will update later
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15:06.34cs_nbpis there already an easy way to put GL/gl.h into a build? mesa-common-dev seems unknown
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15:10.54foerstercs_nbp: libgl-dev ?
15:11.16cs_nbpfoerster: thanx ill try that
15:12.01foerstermesa-2_7.10-r11.0/packages-split$ find . -name gl.h
15:12.02foerster./libgl-dev/usr/include/GL/gl.h
15:12.28foersteri'm using an old oe-classic setup still, but that's where it is for me.
15:12.54cs_nbpok im on oe-core but will find it;)
15:13.11JaMacs_nbp: virtual/libgl
15:13.55JaMacs_nbp: that's mesa or mesa-dri depending on distro config, but if you're looking for GL/gl.h needed ie for qemu-native build then you would need mesa-native which is not available in OE
15:14.28cs_nbpJaMa: webkit-gtk_svn needs it
15:15.57JaMacs_nbp: there is patch for it on ML already..
15:16.23cs_nbpJaMa: yeh need to look on ml more often it seems
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15:21.00cs_nbpJaMa: JaMa: can you remember what the subject was? can only find something for webkit-efl_svn
15:22.15murianisup cs_nbp
15:22.43cs_nbpmuriani hayZ
15:23.43JaMacs_nbp: maybe it was on poky or yocto ML, but it was sent by Robert Day and I had some replies IIRC
15:24.21murianigot florian's kernel and rootfs booting last night
15:24.23JaMacs_nbp: ah no http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2012-January/015755.html
15:24.26murianiplayed around in lxde a little
15:24.30murianiit's sloooooow.
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15:24.51murianiX is, at least
15:25.22murianiand my USB cable works
15:25.30florianmuriani, cs_nbp: Did you ever see the Psion Linux stuff? :-)
15:25.30cs_nbpthats good news
15:25.33JaMacs_nbp: and original thread https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/poky/2012-January/007401.html
15:25.43cs_nbponoz i looked in the devell ml al the time
15:25.46murianiflorian: yes, yes I did.
15:26.02cs_nbpi use it on a daily basis
15:26.04murianiIt's why the nbp has had CE on it for so long :)
15:26.11florianmuriani: not really fast... but a faster at least
15:26.13cs_nbplike now for irc :~D
15:26.27cs_nbpJaMa: thanks alot
15:27.28cs_nbpwell 'fastness' of your kernel image was enough for me, florian
15:28.04cs_nbpstarted on atari 800xl so i dont expect so much :D
15:29.02cs_nbpwell apart the 12 minutes waiting for ubi stuff to finish -.-
15:31.34murianihahaha
15:31.35murianiyeah
15:31.51murianiit's like waiting for an old C64 game to load
15:33.00CMoH|officehey. what's the status on oe-meta? i'd like to assess the impact of moving to oe-meta. are there any docs on this?
15:33.16kergothoe-core / meta-oe, you mean :)
15:33.27cs_nbpbah if psionlx had wpa and emacs i prolly never would have thought of installing somehting else ;)
15:34.33murianialright, let's run a build.
15:34.45murianioh crap I need to add the rootdelay in boost, right?
15:35.12cs_nbpmuriani y
15:35.39CMoH|officekergoth, yes :)
15:36.06CMoH|officeis there a page on how to build a simple console image with it?
15:36.13CMoH|officewhat to checkout etc
15:36.21CMoH|office(i.e. git clone)
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15:36.45kergothCMoH|office, there are lots of different setups using the layers. different ways of pulling them in. angstrom has one, shr has one, poky does its own thing, but they're all relatively similar
15:36.54kergothCMoH|office, something like http://sakrah.homelinux.org/blog/2011/03/using-openembedded-core-to-build-angstrom-for-qemu/ may be helpful for you
15:37.03CMoH|officethanks kergoth
15:37.18kergothCMoH|office, alternatively: git clone --recursive https://github.com/kergoth/oe-core-template; cd oe-core-template; make
15:37.23kergothor any number of others :)
15:42.05murianics_nbp: oh, rootdelay is already there.
15:42.30murianiroot=/dev/sda2 rw rootdelay=1 console=tty0 init=/sbin/init quiet
15:45.21cs_nbpmuriani: thats why you gotta put rootwait
15:47.56murianioh, missed that
15:48.54murianiforgot my coffee this morning, lol
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15:51.06CMoH|officeso basically one should use bitbake master for oe-core?
15:51.37JaMa5y
15:58.30Jin^eLDI wonder why my OE rebuids tar-replacement-native from time to time, I see no apparent reasons for it
15:58.37Jin^eLDseems just to happen randomly
15:59.02kergothJin^eLD, if your host's tar is < version 1.23, it will build and use its own
15:59.09kergothso depends on your distro
15:59.16kergothmine gets built on some of my boxes, but not others
15:59.33murianihm, pcmcia (non-cardbus) network adapter for $40.
15:59.33Jin^eLDit's 1.23 exactly
15:59.37murianiseems  a little steep
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16:07.00murianiAh, ebay, $12 shipped.
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16:17.16kobe_I added PREMIRRORS = "(ftp|http?)$://.*/.*/   ftp://myownftpserver.com/" to my distro conf file, but I get the error "ERROR: Error parsing /home/kobe/svn/test/openembedded/recipes/tasks/task-opie-games.bb: too many values to unpack". What is the correct way to specify a mirror? OpenEmbedded should look at my own server first, preferably.
16:17.34kobe_Note: I'm using OE classic
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16:27.03kobe_Is it possible to set a server as a mirror for all packages (preferably by changing one of .conf files and not the .bbclass files)?
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16:28.37bluelightningkobe_: are you sure that $ is correct in your mirror statement above?
16:28.46bluelightningkobe_: you may wish to make use of own-mirrors.bbclass
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16:29.48kobe_I copied the line from one the existing .conf files, but it seems they use different methods too (and in many cases the PREMIRRORS line is commented out).
16:29.56bluelightningkobe_: all you need to do is add this to your local.conf:
16:30.02bluelightningINHERIT += "own-mirrors"
16:30.13bluelightningSOURCE_MIRROR_URL = "http://my.server.url"
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16:31.57bluelightning(or ftp, or whatever)
16:32.10kobe_ah, okay. I see. Thanks, I'll try that.
16:37.14cs_nbpomg sry for nab question, but how do I correctly extract a patch from a html? I keep getting 'Patch format detection failed, no matter what I try. yes I know what a diff looks like. or is it my fault to try w git am?
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16:38.11murianics_nbp: where are you geetting the patch from?
16:38.27cs_nbpmuriani: oe core mailing list
16:39.03kergothmailing list mail isn't html. are you trying to get it out of a web mailing list archive?
16:39.57kobe_@bluelightning: Thanks, it works!!
16:40.08bluelightningkobe_: np :)
16:41.36cs_nbpyes, i'm in the archive
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16:44.26murianics_nbp: is it in http://patchwork.openembedded.org/project/oe-core/list/ somewhere?
16:44.35murianibecause there has the mbox and patch downloads
16:44.38murianithat work with git am
16:44.46murianior should, at least
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16:47.05cs_nbpmuriani: page seems good but got to verify it's the same patch
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16:58.26cs_nbpmuriani: txh, found it some pages further
17:05.43cs_nbpkergoth: ok I got the patch, put it openembedded-core/ and did a git am nameof.patch, and then only get ''patch does not apply"
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17:06.37cs_nbpkergoth: got it from patchwork.openembedded.org
17:06.43kergothcs_nbp, probably applies but with offsets. git am uses git apply, which is more picky than 'patch'
17:06.57kergothi'd try with patch, or at least patch with --dry-run, to see whats really going on
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17:09.19cs_nbpkergoth: maybe a stupid question, but can patch handle *.patch files? patch --dry-run file.patch is just sitting there doing nothing it seems
17:09.37kergoththat's not what patch's syntax is
17:09.39kergothread the man page
17:09.48cs_nbpk;)
17:09.52kergothpatch --dry-run <file.patch or cat file.patch | patch --dry-run
17:15.02cs_nbpkergoth: tries to change files and get's rejected, all 'Hunks' failed
17:18.14cs_nbpkergoth: manually checking GNUmakefile.am, looks like the patch was already applied
17:21.03cs_nbpkergoth my webkit file revision is 101488, so the patch indeed doesn't apply
17:21.34cs_nbpkergoth: but webkit still fails, even being revision 101488
17:21.48kergothshrugs, doesn't know anything about webkit builds
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17:35.20cs_nbpfigured it out, needed virtual/libgl like JaMa suggested (txhbtw)
17:36.34khemcs_nbp: always search ml
17:36.42khemthere is lot of good info out there
17:36.59khemmany times issues you run into are already dealt with
17:39.08cs_nbpkhem: i will;) lesson learned
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18:04.17cs_nbp_-.-
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18:34.40cs_nbpdint find anything in ml: fetching of ca-certificates failed because of checksums, I edited the .bb to reflect the different checksums. now it fetches, but i get ERROR: 'Unpack failure for URL'
18:36.36cs_nbpthere's one post in ml about FILESEXTRAPATH but can't find any of this in the related dirs
18:38.11kergothlook at the rest of the error, or the do_unpack log.
18:38.18kergoththat isn't telling you *why* it failed tou npack
18:38.25kergoththat error message, that is
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18:40.02cs_nbp-.- it says stdin: not in gzip format
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18:40.58cs_nbpso the download file may be broken in repo?
18:41.19cs_nbpbecause from the outside itappears as .tar.gz
18:41.21kergothyour download is corrupt, yeah. rm -rf it and the .done file next to it in your download dir
18:41.38kergothits common enough. sometimes the upstream .tar.gz actually hands back an html file with an error message or similar
18:41.45cs_nbpand get back the old checksums i guess
18:41.47kergoththe unpacking code doesn't call file to check the file type or anything
18:41.55cs_nbpk
18:41.58kergothprobably, yeah. could be you need to google for the archive to get the real file
18:42.13kergothyou could always cat the file thats in your download dir, see if thats what happened, or if it was just a truncated download or something
18:42.58cs_nbpyyyupp got a html
18:43.34kergothshould really have a troubleshooting cookbook of sorts, with common problems and debugging tips for those problems, and possible solutions
18:43.43kergothlike a more fleshed out faq
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18:48.52cs_nbpyeah when i ran into all i could try to make a compendium ;)
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18:49.03kergothhehe
18:49.47cs_nbpyeh when i don't forget like w upower-.-
18:50.31kergoththats one of the things i've been wanting to write up forever, but never seem to get around to. along with some sort of historical / conceptual overview to help people grasp the big picture, which seems to be a common problem
18:50.32kergothheh
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18:52.56cs_nbpautoreconf failed, unknown warning category 'cross' gonna look on ml
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18:54.35florianre
18:54.35kergoththat message isn't the failure
18:54.37kergothit's harmless
18:54.39kergothlook further
18:54.46kergothnote: warning != error
18:55.21woglindehm
18:55.23woglindeWARNING: QA Issue: package libiconv contains bad RPATH $ORIGIN/../lib:/devel/arm/git/setup-scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_2010_x-uclibc/work/armv7a-vfp-d16-angstrom-linux-uclibceabi/libiconv-1.14-r1/image/usr/lib in file /devel/arm/git/setup-scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_2010_x-uclibc/work/armv7a-vfp-d16-angstrom-linux-uclibceabi/libiconv-1.14-r1/packages-split/libiconv/usr/bin/iconv
18:55.32woglindelooks like recipe needs some trimming
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18:58.28woglindehm and I wonder why khem dont hits
18:58.28floriankergoth: well... in oe we have quite some places where warnings and errors are mixed in a confusing way
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18:58.31woglinde| ../../gl/sys/time.h:396:50: error: 'restrict' has a previous declaration as 'timeval* restrict'
18:58.39kergothflorian, heh, true. though its improving
18:58.39woglindewith gnutls and uclibc
18:58.42kergothwe're too verbose all around
18:59.11cs_nbplibtoolize: ERROR: Function do_configure failed
18:59.37cs_nbpmakes ERROR:autoreconf failed
18:59.39kergothagain, thats not the real error
18:59.43kergothyou're not very good at parsing output
18:59.55cs_nbpim a beginner at this
19:00.02kergothi'd suggest just putting the whole thing on a pastebin so we can analyze it for you :)
19:00.30cs_nbpwell those were the only 2 error or ERROR strings in that file
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19:02.13cs_nbpwhat should I look for instead? or not so easy to say?
19:03.05kergothwe'd really need to see it
19:03.20kergothwhat you look for isn't as easy as a particular string to find in your text editor
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19:04.47rlrosahi
19:05.49rlrosai'm trying to pull all the oe stuff, but i'm having trouble with meta smartphone
19:06.04rlrosahas anybody had issues with this? is it down for some reason?
19:08.42kergoth'having trouble' isn't specific enough
19:10.25cs_nbphttp://pastebin.com/pnvFmEER
19:10.47cs_nbpbut wasn't there something w upower the last  days?
19:11.12kergothlibupower-glib/Makefile.am:62: HAVE_INTROSPECTION does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
19:11.12kergoth<PROTECTED>
19:11.21kergothwanders off to run errands
19:11.34cs_nbpyeeh i chased him away -.-;)
19:13.47floriancs_nbp: yes, that's the one
19:14.13florianI found another one: libusb1 depends on libxml2
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19:15.52psinixhay im cs_nbp
19:15.55psinix-.-
19:16.07psinixbattery of nbp needs reloading
19:16.26psinixflorian: btw libusb from libxml is a good one
19:25.43cs_nbpflorian: what do I have to set instead of (0x0) to make the kernel look for rootfs on sd? thought bootparameters would do that -.-
19:26.35cs_nbpsry mean cf
19:26.36murianiroot=/dev/mmcblk0p1 or whatever sd is on nbp doesn't work?
19:26.41murianioh
19:26.49cs_nbpand i have /dev/sda2
19:26.51murianias opposed to looking on nand?
19:26.52murianiright
19:26.55cs_nbpand get kernel panic
19:26.58floriancs_nbp: yes indeed... which kernel do you use now and how are the parameters set?
19:27.44cs_nbpflorian: self compiled kernel, in boost-bootcode /dev/sda2 ext2 - oh, that means ext4 don't work -.-
19:28.54floriancs_nbp: right... and I'm not 100% sure if there was ext2 in kernel but iirc yes.
19:28.58cs_nbpflorian: think you can only mount ext2 as ext4, not the other way round.,.
19:29.24cs_nbpflorian: in default config yes, in yours it's ext4
19:29.31floriancs_nbp: yes... the ext2 driver does not know how to handle it
19:29.42cs_nbpflorian: so for that upower stuff we simply need to wait?
19:30.02floriannot the best idea ever since ext2 is more likely to get corrupted and the ext4 driver handles ext2 as well
19:30.35cs_nbpso change to ext4 for all builds that we do?
19:30.44cs_nbpubifs not possible?
19:32.04cs_nbpjust thought since booting from cf
19:32.18cs_nbpand ubifs is said to be flash friendly
19:33.27cs_nbpflorian: ah yeh i should remind you of something you said
19:33.42cs_nbpbuild a kernel w/o ubifs warning for wince haters
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19:39.42floriancs_nbp: oh right
19:39.58florianjust want to send the latest patch to the list
19:41.35cs_nbpnp wasn't hurrying
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19:45.57woglindehi jay7
19:46.04woglindelong time not seen
19:46.05Jay7hi woglinde
19:46.13Jay7I'm always here :)
19:46.17Jay7just silent
19:49.05florianshoots git-send-email
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19:50.30florianTrying to put as much as possible into the subject line is not the best idea ever.
19:51.37woglindeflorian it isnt
19:52.20cs_nbpthe secretaries who tell us they can't work usually put the whole email in the subject
19:53.17floriangit-send-email tries to do the same
19:54.22Jay7cs_nbp: our secretaries don't know what is subject line used for
19:54.39Jay7just sending emails with empty subject
19:55.03cs_nbpyes they did this once but now a subject is required or we won't send the mail
19:55.10florianJay7: excessive content in subjects is like IP over DNS ;)
19:55.19Jay7hehe
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19:58.39cs_nbpshould I activate braille console? -.-
19:58.49murianido it!
20:02.40cs_nbpforian: while you wrestle w git-send-mail, here is the boot information of the default config: (0x0) Compressed ROM boot loader base address, (0x0) Compressed ROM boot loader BSS address,(root=1f04 mem=32M), Kernel command line type:Use bootloader kernel arguments if available
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20:15.21floriancs_nbp: looks weird... why 32M? and root might want to become something like mmcblk0p1 or sda2 rather
20:16.23cs_nbpflorian: I'm new to this so I thought it had to do w the 32m of flash
20:16.56floriancs_nbp: its about ram...
20:20.22cs_nbpflorian: so I should put 128M rather than 32
20:21.04cs_nbpor i'm shooting the wrong bird
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20:29.54florianthis webkit gl issue is a known one?
20:30.10cs_nbpflorian: yes theres a patch, waita sec
20:30.32floriancs_nbp: yes... or just nothing
20:31.03cs_nbpflorian: http://patchwork.openembedded.org/patch/18029/ , but that doesn't solve it, you have to bitbake virtual/libgl
20:31.15cs_nbpflorian: it's looking for GL/gl.h
20:31.41cs_nbpflorian: yes i now understand it's a classic boot parameters line
20:31.51cs_nbpflorian:_ like eg in grub
20:32.23cs_nbpmy webkit was up to date so when you refreshed today you don't need the patch
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20:34.36cs_nbpyour kernel and tworaz rootfs are not starting anymore, even not with a fresh reflash of everything
20:35.00cs_nbpcan't open /dev/console no such file or directory
20:35.02floriancs_nbp: Not sure if this is related... for me it looks like a missing dependency
20:35.04cs_nbp-.-
20:35.17floriancs_nbp: unpack the filesystem as root
20:35.27cs_nbpflorian: well i bitbaked virtual/libgl and webkit built fine then
20:35.40cs_nbpflorian: I always do
20:36.14cs_nbpflorian: tar xfvz rootfs.tar.gz --numeric-owner
20:36.23cs_nbpflorian: as root
20:37.31cs_nbpflorian: problem solved - there's a SD card in there again-.- geezus
20:39.04floriancs_nbp: ah... it mounts the sd but there was no useful fs to boot into on it?
20:39.14cs_nbpflorian: yes -.-
20:39.36cs_nbpflorian: rootfs was on CF card and /dev/console was there, I was quite confused
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20:40.00cs_nbpflorian: dumb thing is the dummy sd looks just like a real sd card
20:40.14cs_nbpflorian: so you never really look there
20:40.25cs_nbpflorian: ill mark the dummy pink
20:41.17floriancs_nbp: the script searching for rootfs is rather primitive. maybe we should test for /sbin/init on them
20:41.23cs_nbpflorian: is the bootdisk the only info the kernel really needs or should i put /dev/console (or a different cli) and other information there also
20:42.02cs_nbpflorian: you mean look on one drive after the other for /init?
20:42.13cs_nbpflorian and only then try to boot
20:42.25florianright
20:43.00cs_nbpflorian: btw i hope it doesn't beep everytime i type florian:, I switched my irc sound off
20:43.13nschle85hello, is there a popular distribution which is based on oe-core which can be used for pandaboard ES ? i am using SHR for my phone but i need something with KDE libs support for pandaboard ES. i would like to setup a small streaming client for my living room
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20:43.40floriancs_nbp: I never had it enabled ;)
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20:44.44cs_nbpflorian: anyways there's still something wrong w upower http://pastebin.com/pnvFmEER
20:45.14cs_nbpflorian: l85++
20:47.16floriancs_nbp: add gobject-introspection-native to depends
20:50.26cs_nbpflorian: ah yes, i heard that once already in the last days-.-
20:51.39floriansends another patch
20:52.25cs_nbpflorian: patchmaster F, eh
20:52.39florianthis reminds me to a large pile of oe-classic additions and fixes in my queue
20:53.02cs_nbpyou mean they could be converted? :D
20:53.09florianbut these I can push myself
20:53.12florianno
20:53.15cs_nbpi know
20:53.46florianI haven't started converting... not yet... after Embedded World maybe
20:53.55nschle85florian: i loved oe-classic ... now all is splitted
20:54.18cs_nbpbtw did you find out why your kbd isn't working in lxde?
20:54.37cs_nbpmuriani said for him it is working
20:54.42cs_nbpwith your image
20:55.02floriannschle85: I still love it :-)
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20:56.19nschle85florian: i miss it :-) but the future is OE CORE
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20:58.32nschle85florian: do you know a good distribution for pandaboard ES ? i need to setup a stream client, connected to TV, software is XMBC or a kde program
20:58.37floriannschle85: I'm still using it... with oe-core what I currently do is too much effort.
20:59.04floriannschle85: Sounds like a job for Angstrom
20:59.30nschle85florian: is angstrom core based ?
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21:03.06phdeswerflorian, don't think Angstrom installs the accelerated drivers though,
21:03.25phdeswerSo might be a bit hard to get the fullscreen playback etc
21:05.21florianphdeswer: maybe... but I remember it used to have this stuff for some omap3
21:07.41cs_nbp-ccleanall virtual/kernel is all I need before rebuilding the kernel, right
21:09.16nschle85phdeswer: florian: on desktop i like ubuntu, but there i need a small dedicated distribution... ok ill investigate angstrom ...
21:10.20phdeswernschle85, for small it should work. Did it not so long ago myself. But still need to figure out how to get the binary drivers on the board
21:11.51nschle85phdeswer: binary drivers ?
21:12.23cs_nbpalso there's this http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/163/builds/5326/testcases/696/results if you like ubuntu
21:12.29cs_nbpdidn't test that myself
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21:13.40cs_nbpsorry the site is this http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/205/builds
21:14.20phdeswernschle85, afaik the pandaboard has some binary drivers for accelerated display and 3D
21:15.23nschle85phdeswer: hmm ok they are currently packaged in ubuntu 11.10 for pandaboard
21:15.51phdeswerindeed.
21:15.54phdeswerBtw http://rsalveti.wordpress.com/2012/01/06/hw-video-decode-and-xbmc-ubuntu-linaro/
21:16.13cs_nbpi arrived at * extract_archive: Cannot create symlink from ./var/run to 'volatile/run': File exists. again :D
21:16.41nschle85phdeswer: thought all software is open :-(
21:19.07phdeswernschle85, unfortunately not. http://www.omappedia.com/wiki/PandaBoard_FAQ#What_will_Graphics.2FGFX_support_be_like.3F_Will_drivers_be_released.3F
21:20.30floriancs_nbp: I will be there pretty soon too
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21:31.37cs_nbpflorian: i removed all findable references and browed ml, dint find a solution
21:32.28cs_nbpflorian: i mean i added rm -rf {D}{localstatedir}/run/* to the install{} function of some recipes
21:32.30florianhas ~10 tasks left
21:32.46cs_nbpflorian me only 3 or 4
21:33.53florianI wonder if putting gtk+ recipes under a recipes-gnome directory is a good idea
21:35.16cs_nbpperhaps if you want to build glade -.-
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21:56.48cs_nbpflorian: see any light at the end of the tunnel? can't find errors in the recipes, can it be something IN the actual packages themselves?
21:57.05cs_nbpflorian: that get installed?
21:57.22cs_nbpflorian: and perhaps write to var/run
22:10.06floriancs_nbp: one sec... just have to fix another download
22:14.04cs_nbpflorian: don't let that get a habit ;)
22:14.48cs_nbpbtw what does the red led signify? it's always-on since the screen became white in an auto-suspend attempt
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23:00.36floriancs_nbp: sorry, it di not fail here
23:00.42florianeh did
23:01.23cs_nbpclassic fail? var/run?
23:01.28florian*hides*
23:01.41floriancs_nbp: no failure here...
23:01.54cs_nbpflorian: ah -.- here only half failure
23:02.29cs_nbpflorian: i tested my kernel, then slid out the sd card again and it looked for ext2 filesystem, wonder where it gets that idea from
23:03.05cs_nbpflorian: can I specify that on bkernel bootparameter line too?
23:03.15floriancs_nbp: you added "rootwait"?
23:03.24cs_nbpflorian: yes
23:03.35cs_nbpflorian: btw at next checkout its kernel 3.2
23:03.51floriancs_nbp: it waits till the specified root device appears
23:04.04cs_nbpflorian: yes but there is no ext2 device
23:04.10cs_nbpflorian: only ext4
23:04.45khemext2 is fallback
23:04.51cs_nbpah ok
23:05.05cs_nbpi specified nothing, neither in bootloader nor in kernel
23:05.18cs_nbpso it takes that
23:05.45cs_nbpflorian: btw does that mean you solved the var/run thingy? what is it?
23:06.32cs_nbpcuz im sd carding back and forth to try to resolve dependencies for my wifi driver
23:10.30floriancs_nbp: sort of... I did not run into it for some reason
23:10.49cs_nbp*looks suspiciously at florian
23:12.56florianI updated all repositories before I started and changed distribution configuration back to Jlime
23:15.18cs_nbp<PROTECTED>
23:15.39cs_nbpi got jlime too
23:15.45murianiyeah, I'm the same
23:16.03murianiupdated, distro=Jlime
23:16.17murianimay be time to wipe it all and start fresh... again.
23:16.37cs_nbpupdated all n ow, just new recipe for kernel 3.2
23:16.44florianmuriani: Depends on when you intend to go to bed and how fast your machine is ;)
23:16.46murianithe new 3.2.0 recipe in meta-netbookpro boots nice and quick though
23:16.54murianiflorian: it's not bad.
23:17.18muriani45min for a full build?
23:17.23murianihaven't really timed it.
23:17.44florianmuriani: for the lxde image? this would be pretty good
23:18.01murianiyeah, I'm building on a pretty nice box
23:18.44murianibut I die at do_rootfs
23:19.15cs_nbpsame here
23:19.20florianstrange
23:19.26cs_nbpbut for tworaz and florian it workd
23:19.44cs_nbpso for the nabs it doesn't work? oe haz nab detect?
23:20.01florianI found 2GB PCMCIA harddisks at the office :)
23:20.15florianheh
23:20.20cs_nbpunder a pile of dust and dead rats?
23:20.27murianiniice
23:20.38murianiwhoo, it seems my pcmcia wlan
23:20.43muriani(prism2)
23:21.07floriansometimes oe is really evil... it might be an idea to check latest oe core changes if there is any suspicious change. this might speed up things a little bit
23:21.10murianinothing here to connect to
23:21.25murianibut at least it works
23:21.34cs_nbpflorian: you don't know by chance where menuconfig saves the .config? I can only see it's {D}/.config
23:21.40murianimaybe I'll use this for workign from the downstairs tonight
23:21.45floriancs_nbp: well... piles of dust and scary things like iPAQ boxes
23:21.58cs_nbpflorian: ...the dead rats
23:22.25floriancs_nbp: it should be in ${S} where menuconfig runs
23:22.25muriani...if I can get ssh installed
23:22.36cs_nbpisn't it?
23:22.49murianinot in this rootfs?
23:23.14cs_nbpomg bash and less but not ssh? (or emacs?)
23:23.45floriancs_nbp: the rats are one floor above at the attic... you know the dec rats?
23:24.01florianmuriani: dropbear maybe?
23:24.30cs_nbpflorian: yeh http://www.cedmagic.com/history/dec-rainbow.jpg
23:25.08florian:-)
23:25.27cs_nbpwell at work we have a sparcstation
23:25.39cs_nbpprevents a door from closing
23:26.33florianwe have a wohole collection of classic non-x86 workstations
23:26.57cs_nbpflorian: i run it from oe/setup-scripts/ but theres notten in deh
23:27.09cs_nbpeven not a .config
23:27.30florianoops... never tried that one
23:27.51cs_nbpyes and i got the impression i can make one kernel and then it forgets the config
23:28.20cs_nbpcd ..
23:29.13floriancs_nbp:  bitbake -c devshell linux-netbookpro
23:29.41florianargh... why this does open a new terminal these days?
23:30.02floriana very clever idea if you are connected to a remote server over a thin line
23:30.02cs_nbpflorian: you mean menuconfig?
23:30.24cs_nbpi use nxclient for that -.- simple ssh not enough
23:31.09florianyes... but opening xterm you end uo in X11 forwarding!
23:31.31cs_nbpflorian: yeah that sux big time
23:31.50cs_nbpaaand i run into var/volatile fail again
23:32.07cs_nbpmaybe, just maybe, is there a packe missing on my system?
23:32.25cs_nbpdo I perhaps need a header locally that isn't there
23:32.42cs_nbponly way i can explain that tworaz and florian are not seeing it
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23:33.08cs_nbpcuz repos should be identicall for all 4
23:33.31florianuh... 6k/s from linuxtogo.org - I need to take a look why it is that slow
23:33.47cs_nbpthought that was normal
23:34.09cs_nbpls
23:34.29floriannot really
23:34.56florianthis time it even seems to be not guilty at all... it seems my local connection is that slow
23:36.27cs_nbpwell this devshell put me somewhere in tmp/work , but still theres no .config
23:36.36cs_nbptheres Kconfig but thats lame :p
23:36.45nitinkJin|away: did you get to test the locale fix
23:37.48murianiflorian: yeah there's no dropbear here either
23:37.54murianithjat's server though, right?
23:37.59murianiI need ssh client :P
23:38.36cs_nbpdo_configure_prepend() {
23:38.36cs_nbp<PROTECTED>
23:38.36cs_nbp}
23:38.41floriancs_nbp: that's the working directory... you should have one there after do_configure
23:38.44cs_nbpthats whats in the kernel bb
23:38.57murianiwell if I can get this on the network at home tonight, I'll see if I can opkg it and get online
23:39.06florianmuriani: ok... we might want to add them to the image :)
23:39.13murianiyeah :)
23:41.24cs_nbpsup now i found 2 configs
23:42.10cs_nbpguess the one here is used build/tmp-angstrom_2010_x/sysroots/netbookpro/kernel/.config
23:42.25cs_nbpand the one here is the 'mod' build/tmp-angstrom_2010_x/work/netbookpro-oe-linux-gnueabi/linux-netbookpro-3.1.8-r1/git/.config
23:42.55murianiwell that one's for 3.1.8, you're building a 3.2.0 kernel now right?
23:43.23cs_nbpah yeh so that config wasn't even saved it seems
23:43.36cs_nbpor locatedb too old
23:44.04murianiI use find in that case
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23:46.26floriancs_nbp: I'm pretty sure you get this error because you are building angstrom and I build Jlime
23:46.57murianiI build Jlime
23:47.00murianisame error.
23:47.11cs_nbpMACHINE = "netbookpro"
23:47.11cs_nbpDISTRO   = "Jlime"
23:47.18cs_nbpBUT
23:47.42cs_nbpi did setup-scripts http://sakrah.homelinux.org/blog/2011/03/using-openembedded-core-to-build-angstrom-for-qemu/
23:47.50cs_nbpand muriani too
23:47.54cs_nbpsrey muriani
23:47.58cs_nbp*shame*
23:48.04murianiyeah, because suppoesdly that fixes EVERYTHING
23:48.05murianilol
23:48.16cs_nbpyeh it did, we found a complete new error
23:48.19murianiI guess that could be the only other thing we have in common.
23:48.32cs_nbpso k start from scratch with oe-core tree i guess
23:48.34cs_nbpbarf
23:48.38murianiI've got no problem with going back to pulling my own trees
23:48.57murianisetup-scripts pulled a bunch of crap I don't need anyway
23:49.05cs_nbpyeh
23:49.17cs_nbplike recipes-mangochutney
23:49.26cs_nbp;)
23:50.00cs_nbpbut that means doenloads be gone
23:50.14cs_nbpor can i copy that over
23:50.39murianishold be able to copy it over
23:50.46cs_nbp*copies over
23:51.59cs_nbpflorian: so yeh you win setup-scripts optimises stuff for angstrom
23:52.12cs_nbpflorian: so maybe distro was overridden
23:52.24cs_nbpflorian: how mmany buld steps you had approx
23:52.36murianiit says jlime in the bitbake stats when it starts
23:52.37cs_nbpflorian: i had 4696
23:53.19floriancs_nbp: 4008
23:54.09cs_nbpflorian: yeh thought so
23:54.16cs_nbpobvious discrepance
23:54.23cs_nbpeven if one of us is wrong by 200
23:55.00cs_nbpbah whut y only 1.5MB/s
23:55.44cs_nbpflorian: ah but now i remember needing meta-oe too then
23:55.48floriancs_nbp: angstrom adds some bits to every image... avahi, dropbear...
23:56.33murianics_nbp: it depends on meta-oe and oe-core IIRC
23:56.48cs_nbpi mean for tworaz stuff
23:56.52murianiright
23:56.54murianifor tworaz
23:57.06cs_nbpi put meta-oe NEXT to oe-core, right
23:57.24murianias long as the bblayers are config'd right
23:57.46murianimeta-oe has meta-otherstuff under it
23:57.48murianiiirc
23:57.56cs_nbpthats prolly why i get tempted to put it there
23:58.30murianiyeah I did all my git clones next to each other
23:58.49murianianyhoo folks, time to head home. Might be able to hop on later to bang at this some more
23:59.08cs_nbpwell ur in the us right?
23:59.12murianiyeah
23:59.20cs_nbphere its somewhat after going to bed time ^^
23:59.23murianiCST
23:59.26murianiheh
23:59.30cs_nbpCET
23:59.43cs_nbpso ur 7 hours behind
23:59.44murianiyeah, but I've got a woman and kids and such at home :)
23:59.56cs_nbpi got a woman and no kids yet

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