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02:26.46rlrosahi
02:27.32rlrosai'm working with a beagleboard. the default SD card comes with i2c-2 enabled. i've managed to bitbake console-image, and get another functional SD card, but it doesn't have i2c-2 in /dev
02:28.22rlrosait *does* have /dev/i2c-1 and 3, but 2 is missing (it's the one i need, since it's the one accessible on the expansion header
02:28.38rlrosahow/what do i configure stuff to get i2c-2?
02:28.45kergoth`#beagle
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02:31.01rlrosakergoth`: thanks
02:31.08kergoth`np
02:31.33kergoth`it's of course somewhat on topic here, but given the question is hardware specific, you'll probably have better luck there
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02:32.21rlrosasure, i'll give it a shot.
02:32.22rlrosai have a oe question. how do i know what recipes are used when running bitbake console-image?
02:32.57kergoth`there are a couple ways. try bitbake -u depexp -g console-image
02:33.05kergoth`gui dependency explorer
02:34.02kergoth`alternatively, INHERIT += "buildhistory" in oe-core and INHERIT += "testlab" in oe classic, to get image creation to dump useful information about the built image, including what packages went in (not the recipes) and their sizes and the like
02:34.10kergoth`depends on what your goal is, really
02:34.56rlrosasweet, there's tons of stuff in oe, the problem is knowing where to look!
02:35.06rlrosai want to know what defconfig i need to edit
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06:40.32Guest27759is it possible to override rm_work for a specific recipe
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06:42.05eFfeM_workbetter
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08:08.15eFfeM_workJaMa: are you familiar with kernel recipes with initramfs?
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08:26.45JaMaeFfeM_work: sort of
08:28.16eFfeM_workJaMa: I'm running into the issue how to specify dependency between kernel and image, did this:
08:28.18eFfeM_workdo_configure[depends] += "syrcxx-bootmode-image:do_rootfs"
08:28.30eFfeM_workthat works, but only if you do not use rm_work
08:28.53eFfeM_workthe do_configure is in my kernel recipe
08:29.18eFfeM_workso I am looking for a better way to specify the dependency
08:30.08eFfeM_workBTW is it possible to inhibit rm_work for a single recipe ?
08:30.12eFfeM_workor override ?
08:31.20JaMacheck linux-kexecboot
08:31.31eFfeM_workwas doing so
08:31.33JaMaand imho it's not posible to inihibit it per recipe
08:31.46JaMarm_work doesn't work well in oe-core anyway
08:32.01eFfeM_workI was hoping it would be possible to override rm_work in the recipe
08:33.27eFfeM_worki'm still on oe classic, issue is that we run regression and release builds on an autobuilder and without rm work I use 12 GB, with only 2; with 20 projects or so, it makes quite a difference
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08:47.48woglindehiho
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08:54.17bluelightningwoglinde: interesting
08:54.19bluelightningmorning all
08:57.56woglindebl yes
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09:34.20mckoangood morning
09:34.27woglindehi mckoan
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09:46.35ipaqlorhi folks!
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09:50.26ipaqlori am having a bit of a hardtime getting a kernel rebuilt with small changes. it seems like the chain: bitbake virtual/kernel -c clean : cp backup/linux-2.6.29* downloads ; bitbake virtual/kernel -c configure ; bitbake virtual/kernel -f -c compile ; bitbake virtual/kernel -f -c compile_kernelmodules ; bitbake virtual/kernel -c deploy ; bitbake core-image-minimal
09:50.48ipaqlordoes not necessary lead to the new kernel beeing integrated into the core-image-minimal
09:50.52ipaqlorwhat am i missing?
09:51.25ipaqlorbtw. iam allready, i guess in userland :) Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! .
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09:52.25ipaqlorhow do oe hardcore kernelcompilers compile their kernels and how would i force to get it into a new jffs image
09:53.36ipaqlori followed more wor less: http://www.slimlogic.co.uk/2011/05/openembeddedangstrom-kernel-workflow/ , but that does not really cover the "system image bakery"
09:54.00woglindefind -name "*defconfig*"
09:54.33floriangood morning
09:54.38woglindehi florian
09:54.47ipaqlorhi woglinde, florian.
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09:55.39ipaqlorwell, is or isnt there a way in oe to do "fast" kernel recompiles and "automagic" deployment into a filesystem image?
09:56.08ipaqlormaybe its just not made for that. no idea. ive been wron on what and how oe is ued and what for in the past.
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09:59.07woglindeedit the defconfig
09:59.13woglindebump the pr of your kernel recipe
09:59.33ipaqlorwoglinde: ohg sorry, havent recognized you where talink to me. thought it was a classical case of "wrong terminal"
10:01.58ant_workipaqlor: yes, you landed in userland finally :) now you seem suffer from getty/inittab problems
10:02.23ant_workcheck the tty*
10:03.16ant_workand as woglinde said, just increase PR of the kernel recipe (for the moment it's easier, otherwise just rerun the task populating /boot)
10:03.28ipaqlormhm
10:04.15pb_I'm not sure that counts as a "fast" recompile. :-}
10:04.42ipaqlorpb_: hey, thanks, your config made me see the light :)
10:04.52woglindehi pb
10:05.05pb_oh, very good.  what was the problem?
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10:05.52ipaqlorpb_: well first those SA1100 specific option had to be turned on, all ;)
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10:06.40ipaqlorpb_: CONFIG_MTD_SA1100=y is a really hit for example :)
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10:08.14ipaqlorpb_: know of a faster way to do kernel recompiles and image integration with oe?
10:08.41pb_well, the easiest way to do kernel recompiles is just to open a devshell and type "make".
10:08.46ipaqloralso, is there any option to makes me clean everything but the doenloaded files belonging to that package?
10:08.55pb_if you need it integrated into a jffs2 then that's harder.  I can't think offhand of any easy and quick way to do that.
10:09.08florianscp ;-)
10:09.22pb_heh
10:09.25ipaqlorpb_: yes. the integration is the problem, as right now i can only bvoot jffs2 images.
10:09.40pb_I guess you could make a script that mounted your jffs2 on a loop device, copied the kernel in, and unmounted it.
10:09.51pb_but, fwiw, crl bootldr can boot kernels from anywhere, they don't have to be in jffs2
10:10.02ipaqlorpb: yeah, i looked into this oscenity, chaining to modules together
10:10.12pb_I'm pretty sure you can have them as loose files on vfat, or just loaded straight into RAM.
10:10.21ipaqlorpb_: well, i havent fiigured out yet how that is doen.
10:11.39ipaqlorpb_: my nex goal is to get a kexecbootkernel running. so that i am not bound to some bootloader for bootstrapping a kernel and am also able to boot from cf
10:12.12ipaqlor...
10:12.51pb_you should be able to boot from cf already.  but, yes, using kexec is not a bad idea in any case.
10:13.23ipaqlorbut the download cleanup really is anoying. this is really unneccessary trafic that wastes not only time (due to slow kernel.org for example) but energy bandwith and nerves :)
10:13.26ant_workipaqlor: your machine.conf has MACHINE_ESSENTIAL_EXTRA_RDEPENDS = "kernel ipaq-boot-params"
10:13.49pb_what do you mean by "download cleanup"?
10:14.13ant_workmaybe -c cleansstate ?
10:14.22ipaqlorpb_: i mean that when i clean virtual/kernel the kernel tarball gets erased :) thats why i back it up and copy it back after the cleanup
10:14.38pb_oh.  well, that shouldn't be happening, and it doesn't happen for me.
10:14.54ipaqlorpb_: one second, i try again.
10:14.56ant_workonly -c cleanall would do
10:15.36ipaqlorant_work: a yes, cleanall,
10:15.43ant_work^_^
10:15.54pb_oh, right.  well, don't do that.
10:16.02ant_workdon't do it, unless you want to redownload all ;)
10:16.13ipaqlorok, but i did the cleanall because the clean didt do me much good as far as i know :)
10:16.24pb_I think "cleansstate" is probably what you want.
10:16.40pb_the only difference is that cleanall removes the downloaded files too.  if that isn't what you want, don't run it.
10:16.42ipaqlorpb_: and where do i inert it?
10:16.49ipaqlorpb_: after the clean, or before?
10:18.18ipaqlorhmm, bitbake virtual/kernel -c clean , ls downloads/linux-2.6.29*
10:18.19ipaqlorls: cannot access downloads/linux-2.6.29*: No such file or directory
10:18.24ipaqlorwell. no idea
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10:18.36ipaqlori rebuild and try it again afterwards
10:21.55ant_workipaqlor: once you have a valid defconfig you could try to run the task do_savedefconfig (maybe is default, can't remember)
10:22.13ant_workthis will give you a shrinked defconfig
10:22.33ant_workwhich you can test against 3.x kernels maybe...
10:22.54ant_workbest is to enter devshell and do 'make oldconfig' by hand in that cases, though
10:23.22ant_workbut you see the path
10:23.36ipaqlorant_work: hehe, well, thanks, no, im rather "clueless" and feeling itchy allready with the "every 10 minutes" a new kernel programm i am into. for 2.6.29 that is :)
10:24.13ant_work:)
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10:24.26ipaqlorant_work: right now i am manually replacing the .config after runnung bitbake -c configure
10:24.31ant_workbut please don't forget to send patches or your effort will be lost
10:25.16ipaqlorant_work: shure, by the time this makes sense i may know how to do that for all those gitjunkys out their. normal diffs arent going to be enough i guess :)
10:25.55ant_worksee, it depends on your lazyness...
10:26.10ant_workat least pl send a tarball of your modified files
10:26.24ipaqlorant_work: haha, lazyness. you are funny :) i am unemplyed and sitting 15 hours a day on this computer for a week now.
10:26.52ipaqlorjust fiddling around with this ipaqstuff, bitbake, git, crazy documentation, lost data....
10:28.28ipaqlorand still got no init started!
10:28.48ipaqlori am not lazy, im near to "micro burnout tm"
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10:29.04ant_worksorry, no offensive intentions here ;)
10:29.31ant_workremember nobody is payed for work on those old devices
10:30.38ipaqlorant_work: well, some people for shure. but thats not the point. i am not taliking about money, money is not interesting, for i have non anyways :) luckily i found someone who had the serial cable and gave it to me fro free.
10:31.28ant_workthat's the spirit we have in OE
10:40.19Jay7yeah
10:40.53Jay7looked over set of Zauruses..
10:41.13ipaqlorhow retro ;)
10:42.39ipaqlorcome on lets search the web via hotbot, altavista and fireball, get out our "dino"Zauruses. and watch the SUN go down ;)
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10:44.42florian:-)
10:49.28icanicantI'm thinking of setting up an oe-core layer for Kirkwood devices (e.g. Sheevaplug). It seems to have not been carried over to the new oe-core layers. Has anyone already done this?
10:50.06rlrosahi
10:50.28rlrosahas anybody had problems pulling the meta-smartphone ?
10:52.26rlrosais it possible to ignore it? (assuming it has smartphone specific stuff
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11:03.43bluelightningicanicant: I did a provisional layer yes, all worked well
11:04.34bluelightningicanicant: I can't really maintain it myself though as I don't own a sheevaplug / other kirkwood device
11:04.49bluelightningicanicant: I can publish the files though if you would like
11:05.07bluelightningperhaps you could maintain such a layer? ;)
11:05.36icanicantbluelightning: that was my next question :) Would be interested in seeing it - I have a Sheevaplug so should be able to maintain.
11:05.47bluelightninggreat
11:05.59bluelightningthere wasn't much work required IIRC
11:06.10icanicantbluelightning: is it just a case of copying the machine conf files over from oe classic?
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11:11.28ant_workipaqlor: I'm thinking about doing an Xmame device for my kid to destroy once he's done with iphone. The hope is he'll keep fingers away from my next-to-be-bought ipad3...
11:11.39ant_work... but I know this won't work :/
11:13.04bluelightningicanicant: actually I just checked... the machine conf files I used were the same files from OE unmodified
11:13.07bluelightningicanicant: so yes :)
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11:13.25bluelightningicanicant: all you need is conf/machine/sheevaplug.conf and conf/machine/include/kirkwood.conf
11:13.49ant_workmaybe add the formfactor stuff
11:14.09bluelightningant_work: it's not so important at least for sheevaplug since it has no display :)
11:14.28ant_workheh
11:15.18bluelightningicanicant: then you can just steal the layer conf file from another layer, add a README and COPYING.MIT, and you have a layer :)
11:15.35bluelightning(well, you'll need to trivially modify the layer config)
11:15.45icanicantbluelightning: great, thanks. Sounds rather simple :)
11:16.06bluelightningicanicant: yeah I think for this machine it's pretty straightforward, there wasn't really any bitrot :)
11:16.28icanicantant_work: Cheers, hadn't read about formfactor - that just took me to the Poky ref manual which looks quite useful (and up to date for oe-core)
11:16.44bluelightningicanicant: let me know when you publish it and I will add it to the layer index page on the wiki
11:19.09icanicantbluelightning: thanks for the hints, much appreciated. I'll let you know when it's ready.
11:20.04bluelightningicanicant: awesome, thanks. I was hoping someone would come along and take care of sheevaplug :)
11:28.41eFfeM_workJaMa: thanks for the kexec pointer, it lead me to kernel.bbclass and INITRAMFS_IMAGE
11:28.44eFfeM_workseems to work now
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12:03.26ipaqlorant_work: mame, well, on what device? the ipaq for instance sucks as a gaming device because of the cheap controls.
12:03.47ipaqlor1 button, and 4 copper meander.... really sucks
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12:17.18slapinhi, all!
12:17.24slapinMarex, Hi
12:17.39Jin^eLDprivet slapin
12:18.25slapinI have trouble building python lately, it seems to be OK but some (most of) builtin modules aren't built
12:18.39slapinJin^eLD: privet
12:21.22slapine.g. ImportError: No module named IN
12:22.08slapinI don't see any errors in python build log.
12:22.40Jin^eLDhas not updated OE recently
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12:26.23Jay7slapin: long time not seen :)
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12:26.36slapinJin^eLD: recently = last 2 months?
12:26.42slapinJay7: hi!
12:28.26Jin^eLDmoment, hab grad anruf von telekabel, sorry
12:28.36Jin^eLDoops wrong window
12:32.08ipaqlordoes anyone here use ubi? and does it make sense on 32mb mtd devices?
12:32.37Jay7ipaqlor: ubi is much faster on mount
12:32.43Jay7than jffs2
12:32.50slapinabout python: files are at http://ossfans.org/py/python-configure http://ossfans.org/py/python-compile
12:33.10slapincould somebody look and tell what is wrong?
12:33.45slapinpython just doesn't build most of system-specific modules silently
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12:33.51ipaqlorJay7: thats good. is it as "stable" as jffs2?
12:34.15slapinI'm not too aware of python build system and what could make it go haywire
12:34.37Jay7ipaqlor: I haven't used ubi yet :)
12:34.47Jay7but lot of devices have it as default fs on mtd
12:34.52Jay7on nand even
12:35.51ipaqlorjay7: ok :) i just seen the cerner config option so many times i thought id ask. right now im more or less bound to jffs2 so im asking rather theoretical here.
12:36.40Jay7we (Zaurus owners) are waiting for ubi support in klibc to grab it into kexecboot to be able to boot from ubi NAND :)
12:36.43ipaqlorjay7: it does more writes to flash as far as i found out and saves ram.
12:37.24jekhorhi. Is there way for use 'require <recipe>' directive where <recipe> is in a separated layer?
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12:45.00slapindo anybody aware of OE python stuff?
12:45.39ant_workjekhor: usually you only include/require .inc files
12:46.37slapinwhat that http://pastebin.com/31yp8mSz means?
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12:47.17JaMaslapin: that's normal that some modules fail
12:49.01jekhorant_work, we create custom toolchain based on meta-toolchain. I have resolved problem --- we forgot to add .bb path in require directive :)
12:49.39ant_workyes, respect the path
12:50.11slapinJaMa: but ncurses? and no IN module?
12:52.20JaMaslapin: /home/build1/slave/angstrom_build/build/build/tmp-angstrom_2010_x-eglibc/sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr/include/ncurses.h:41:23: fatal error: curses-32.h: No such file or directory
12:52.31JaMathat looks like problem with your curses headers
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13:01.19slapinJaMa: so it depends on -native headers?
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13:36.08Crofton|work| arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-libtool: link: `/home/balister/src/git/oe-core/build/tmp-angstrom_2010_x-eglibc/sysroots/usrp-e1xx/usr/lib/libsystemd-login.la' is not a valid libtool archive
13:36.16Crofton|workanyone recognize this class of error?
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13:49.20ant_workCrofton|work: there has been an awful lot of systemd commits in the last days
13:50.05ant_workI'd start from there (meta-oe)
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13:52.34Crofton|workyeah, it is a libtool like issue though
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14:28.34Crofton|workant_work, seems like I need a linux media server so I can get my photos off this machine
14:28.44Crofton|workdisk full during build really messes things up :)
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14:46.55ipaqlormhm, my kernel is too silent. to most information i get is when i enable jffs2 debugging for i ca see the last file/dir handling operations
14:48.15ipaqloris tehre anything to a "init" process except it has not to terminate? would it be feasable to copile a small programm that does nothing but loops for ever?
14:52.05pb_yes, or you could use the shell, or anything else you want
14:52.20pb_russ nelson always had this plan to use python as /sbin/init.  I'm not quite sure whether he got a working system that way.
14:52.44ipaqlorpb_: yes, i used /bib/ash and ture, and whatnot, but its allways the same
14:52.55pb_true would be no good, since it exits immediately
14:53.08ipaqlorpb_: ture :) but i tried it anyways :)
14:53.34pb_does your filesystem work in qemu?
14:54.19ipaqlorpb_: i have no idea. havent thought about emulation much. its just another construction place :)
14:55.22ipaqlorthe filesystem layout is definitly ok, everything a little busybox sys v init needs in my opinion.
14:56.44ipaqlorso im trying to see if i can get anything compiled that the kernel can load
14:58.22ipaqlorfor(; ; ) { nop } ... or something like that.
15:02.28ipaqlorok, lets see if that makes a fidderence :) main() { for(; ; ) { printf(X \n"); }}
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15:09.23ipaqlorcu later
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15:19.44khemCrofton|work: pong
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15:23.28Crofton|workkhem, I was thinking we could have an oe toolchain layer, and a straight linaro layer
15:24.07khemCrofton|work: I dont want to duplicate the work
15:24.26Crofton|workof cuorse
15:24.27khemsince distros want to use same compiler for non arm
15:24.39khemusing plain linaro might not be sufficient
15:25.01Crofton|workI know, but it would be helpful for reporting problems
15:25.04khemshr and angstrom uses the same compiler across the board and linaro is arm centric
15:25.29JaMakhem: hi, there are still some issues with gcc and multimachine builds :/
15:25.31khemits a lot of work though
15:25.50khemJaMa: the one with libstdc++ libtool ?
15:25.52khemor more
15:25.52Crofton|workkhem, we would want help from the linaro guys
15:26.16khemCrofton|work: that same they will know that the new layer has their patches
15:26.31khemI will be at Linaro connect so I will discuss it there
15:26.46Crofton|workgreat!
15:26.53khemI am happy with current scenario though
15:27.10khemstill I want the toolchain layer to be separate
15:27.24khemsince I want to bring in gdb binutils improvements
15:27.25JaMakhem: no, something like this http://paste.pocoo.org/show/541082/
15:27.36Crofton|workbasicaly, I would like it to be easy to switch from the working layer to the test layer :)
15:30.01JaMakhem: and this http://paste.pocoo.org/show/541085/ (I have seen this one on previous gcc upgrade too)
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15:39.24khemJaMa: thats metadata problem not gcc problem
15:39.45khemJaMa: can you post me the do.run_configure script of before and after ?
15:40.26khemCrofton|work: dont worry it will be a small switch for you just add another layer and it would work as it does
15:40.49khemCrofton|work: I want to add experimental gcc 4.7 there too
15:40.53khemfor the bravehearts
15:46.14khemJaMa: the second issue is weard
15:46.32khemJaMa: do you have enable-plugins in binutils ?
15:49.35JaMakhem: no.. default binutils from oe-core
15:49.54khemok the first problem is something to do with the metadata
15:49.56JaMabut grep -R plugins doesn't show them explicitly enabled or disabled
15:50.01khemsecond could be a lto issue
15:50.05khembut I am not sure yet
15:50.26JaMaand here are logs http://build.shr-project.org/tests/jama/gcc-issue/gcc-cross-intermediate-4.6.2+svnr181430-r27-temp/
15:51.02JaMato be clear, this happens only on 2nd build of same gcc version (which shouldn't be rebuild afaik)
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15:55.18khemJaMa: for the first one I need to look into temp of gcc-cross-intermediate
15:55.39khemah thats what you gave ok
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16:03.23khemJaMa: for first issue I will ask you do something. Compile the first time and make a copy of gcc sources under work-shared then compile for armv7 and make yet another copy
16:03.30khemand then diff the gcc source trees
16:03.40khemand let me know if something in the source tree changes
16:03.57khemwe do lot of munging
16:04.01khemmore than needed
16:04.12khemand something might be biting in the backside
16:04.54JaMaOK.. I'll next time as it takes couple of hours on that box..
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18:28.51kergoth`xf86-video-fbdev-2_0.4.2-r17.0/xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.2/configure: line 15925: `XORG_DRIVER_CHECK_EXT(RANDR, randrproto)'
18:28.52kergoth`bah
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20:58.25ALoGeNoi neeed to know where is the compilation script i mean img_iso one..
20:58.54ALoGeNoim rebuilding system.img and system.sfs and dont works :/
20:59.40ALoGeNoi know how to open and mount it but i need to learn how to build by hand
20:59.44ALoGeNorebuild*
21:00.09ALoGeNosome guru whaching?
21:09.06eFfeMALoGeNo: I suspect you're in the wrong channel (at least system.sfs does not really ring a bell for me).
21:09.44eFfeMthere is no compilation script or so in openembedded, if you want to rebuild things look e.g. at www.openembedded.org for info (or the yocto website)
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21:28.58ALoGeNolol
21:29.16ALoGeNoeFfeM,  of course yep ;) sorry
21:29.28eFfeMnp
21:29.30ALoGeNowrong channel :)
21:29.44eFfeM<grin>
21:29.49ALoGeNobut this is a nice one to ask that too hehe
21:30.05ALoGeNois just a squash question :)
21:30.07eFfeMALoGeNo: may I ask which build system this question was for ?
21:30.26ALoGeNoyeah np, this is for android-x86 ;)
21:31.14ALoGeNoi have 3.2 fullworking in my eeepc t101mt and i want to rebuild the system to use like instalation one ;)
21:31.35ALoGeNoatm..
21:37.53eFfeMah ok, guess that is why sfs vaguely rang a bell
21:38.04eFfeMcool
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22:33.51rlrosahi
22:34.42rlrosai'm trying to build console-image for a beagleboard. had to change sources/layers.txt to point to a different meta-smartphone repository, because it was failing to find it
22:35.18rlrosais this beagleboard specific or is there something wrong with my oe setup?
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