IRC log for #oe on 20120127

00:00.21khemrlrosa: sometimes git servers might be down
00:00.26khemalways retry
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00:43.50icanicantis there a neat way to write a machine layer without providing a kernel recipe? for example making it pull the defconfig from kernel sources. meta-fsl-ppc looks quite nice (they have made their own mechanism for copying the kernel defconfig file) but still uses a kernel recipe.
00:44.42kergoth`no one says you have to provide a custom recipe. you're free to bbappend an existing one
00:48.27icanicantkergoth: thanks for feedback, haven't looked into bbappend. does that still sit in a recipes-kernel/linux folder in the machine meta-layer, or is there an easy way of just using the default "linux" recipe and just providing the machine .conf file?
00:49.22kergoth`you still probably need to provide a defconfig at a minimum to configure the kernel properly
00:49.28kergoth`and you still have to use a bbappend to add to the search path for that file
00:51.36bluelightningicanicant: to answer your question, traditionally yes (and it's a good idea to use the same structure) although nothing mandates that as long as the name matches
00:51.39icanicantkergoth`: thanks I'll look into that.
00:55.54icanicantbluelightning: thanks, i'll go with the standard naming conventions. i was just curious whether any recipe was needed at all - all of the meta layers i've looked at provide a kernel recipe but it struck me that you only really need a defconfig (and even that might be fetchable from the kernel sources). that way only a machine .conf is required for the hardware layer.
00:58.03bluelightningicanicant: right... so in this case, you just need a bbappend which does FILESEXTRAPATHS_prepend (see other examples) and SRC_URI += "file://defconfig"
01:02.40icanicantbluelightning: and that goes in something like recipes-kernel/linux with the defconfig delivered as part of the layer (rather than fetched from the kernel sources)? so the layer contains two folders, conf/machine and recipes-kernel/linux
01:03.21icanicantwith only a .bbappend and a defconfig in recipes-kernel/linux
01:04.00bluelightningicanicant: so, it would be possible to copy the defconfig from the kernel sources; but my understanding was linus is waging war on defconfigs within kernel sources anyway
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01:05.06bluelightningicanicant: typically files relating to a recipe are in a subdir named with the recipe name (${PN})
01:05.18bluelightninge.g. recipes-kernel/linux/linux
01:06.41bluelightningicanicant: FYI, oe-core does not provide an old-style OE kernel recipe (i.e. linux.inc) but instead one which fetches from the linux-yocto git tree
01:07.21bluelightningmeta-oe does contain linux.inc but then you'd still need to provide a full recipe
01:08.01bluelightningso this is all well and good but there's the question of which kernel recipe you would be bbappending...
01:08.34bluelightningI gotta get some sleep now but will be on tomorrow
01:08.50cs_nbpgn8
01:09.23icanicantbluelightning: thanks for the hints, sounds like a clean way of doing it. this is for a kirkwood layer btw.
01:10.11bluelightningicanicant: yeah, I figured...
01:10.33bluelightningnp
01:10.34icanicantbluelightning: will let you sleep, cheers :)
01:10.35bluelightningnight all
01:15.35cs_nbppixman-0.24.2/0008-Generic-C-implementation-of-pixman_blt-with-overlapp.patch isn't found allthough meta-oe is in my bblayers
01:20.34cs_nbpah sry forgot to git pull meta-oe after oe-core update, works now ;)
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04:12.28cs_nbp*yaawn k gn8 all
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07:46.06tasslehoffwrk#linux-omap
07:46.14tasslehoffwrkjust to let you know..
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07:59.20ynezzwhat's there? some sale or free goodies?
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08:03.53mckoangood morning
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08:09.06tasslehoffwrkynezz: free goodies with a light sprinkle of sorrows
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08:26.26rob_wis there a way to gain sun java 1.6 on arm ?
08:28.22tasslehoffwrkhm. I didn't *really* mean to recommend #linux-omap. It's just that weechat threw away /join and left me with just #linux-omap
08:28.56tasslehoffwrkseems I gave Russ high expectations :p
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09:04.22mckoanrob_w: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/embedded/downloads/javase/index.html and good luck
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09:07.13bluelightninghi all
09:09.38JaMarob_w: check meta-java layer
09:16.41mckoanhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes/Java6Transition
09:37.52CIA-903Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org> 07master * re1b157d263 10bitbake.git/lib/bb/runqueue.py: (log message trimmed)
09:37.52CIA-9runqueue.py: Add inter setscene task dependency handling
09:37.52CIA-9This is being added to resolve setscene race issues where we do have
09:37.52CIA-9particular dependencies required between setscene tasks. This allows
09:37.52CIA-9specific dependencies to be specified. This allows us to fix the races
09:37.52CIA-9in sstate with the useradd class in OE-Core.
09:37.52CIA-9Any tasks being depended upon have their reverse dependencies cleared to
09:38.02CIA-903Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org> 07master * r175c5c8a5e 10bitbake.git/lib/bb/ (data.py runqueue.py):
09:38.02CIA-9data/runqueue.py: Fix commented out test code after variable name changes
09:38.02CIA-9Signed-off-by: Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>
09:38.02CIA-903Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org> 07master * rb9b5b5129d 10bitbake.git/lib/bb/runqueue.py:
09:38.02CIA-9runqueue.py: Fix missing setscene dependencies
09:38.02CIA-9When constructing the setscene inter-dependencies, we need to account for all task,
09:38.03CIA-9not just the last one found. This patch corrects this oversight and ensures all
09:38.03CIA-9dependencies are added, not just the first one found.
09:38.04CIA-9Signed-off-by: Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>
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10:21.36JaMaweird, isn't it? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/541482/
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10:25.22bluelightningJaMa: hmm, we're not doing some hard linking magic there by any chance?
10:30.52JaMathat's what I was thinking but still it should behave the same for package* and "package packages-split" imgo
10:30.55JaMaimho
10:31.44JaMabut it looks like it count's it really only once :) http://paste.pocoo.org/show/541490/
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10:51.18ipaqlorhi folks!
10:53.02ipaqlori made a pause yesterday until now. and wanted to use the devshell for virtual/kernel. but a make doenst work out as i hoped it exists quite soon with "arm-oe-linux-gnueabi-ld: unrecognized option '-Wl,-O1'"
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10:54.58ipaqlorhi again :) launching an ircclient withing the devshells terminal isnt that good of an idea ;)
10:55.41pb_unset LDFLAGS
10:56.05bluelightningipaqlor: looks like something is expecting LD to be gcc (-Wl is a gcc option to pass something to the linker)
10:56.45bluelightningipaqlor: which is legal, but I don't know why the behaviour would be different within the devshell and building it normally
10:57.25ipaqlorpb_: ok.
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10:58.22ipaqlorso i should be able to find some that in a bb. because when i run bitbake virtual/kernel -f -c compile it works and produces kernels.
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11:05.16ipaqlorcan i see the all configurations that a parsed to build a kernelimage?
11:09.42ipaqlorwhen grepping over meta* i cant find a recipy that unsets LD flags for the kernel. only eglibc_2.12.bb, u-boot.inc, x-load.inc, eglibc_2.13.bb, eglibc_2.15.bb and net-tools_1.60-23.bb.
11:10.00ipaqlorhave unset LD_FLAGS in them
11:10.06kobe_I've added my own FTP server as mirror for sources using "SOURCE_MIRROR_URL = "ftp://..." in local.conf.  This works fine for sources that are already on the FTP server, but it fails when I add a packet that is not yet on the FTP server. BitBake then fails and says there's a checksum error. I turns out the FTP server returns a HTML file saying '550 File not found' and apparently the checksum of this file is saved. What can I do?
11:10.07ipaqlorwhat am i missing?
11:10.56ipaqlorkobe_: sounds like a broken ftp server.
11:13.53ipaqlorkobe_: id see if i could turn off this "feature" or use a ftp server that behaves better == not returning "something" but nothing + errorcode
11:17.37ipaqlora ok, its because its unset witha  bunch of others. ok. if i am right here: meta/classes/kernel.bbclass
11:18.50ipaqlorkernel_do_compile() {
11:18.50ipaqlor<PROTECTED>
11:18.59ipaqlorok, now i got it :)
11:25.17ipaqlorbluelightning: the behaviour is different because kernel_do_compile is not run when running -c devshell on the kernel
11:25.38bluelightningright, that makes sense
11:26.26bluelightningthe devshell sets up the environment as it would have for running tasks, however it does not actually run them
11:26.38bluelightninghence the unset line you quoted above doesn't happen
11:31.19slapinhi, all!
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11:32.10slapincan anybody help me with python cross-compilation in oe-core?
11:32.52slapinI don't get C-based modules with python build, line _curses.so and IN
11:33.22slapinbuild logs are http://ossfans.org/py/
11:33.58slapinbuild is from scratch
11:34.10slapinbuildhost is debian testing amd64
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11:37.56ipaqlorslapin: line 8 and 9 in the python-configure sure dont look like its supposed to be that way. elese i got no idea :) sorry.
11:38.48ipaqlormaybe ACLOCAL_AMFLAGS is missing the $ACLOCAL_AMFLAGS ?
11:40.47slapinipaqlor: IIRC python doesn't use automake
11:40.52slapinlet me check
11:43.16slapinyeah, bunch of Makefile.am is there so it uses automake
11:44.40slapinso something in OE automake running scripts misses to set ACLOCAL_AMFLAGS?
11:47.36ipaqlorslapin: "sh: ACLOCAL_AMFLAGS: command not found"  clearly looks like there is a $ missing somewhere :) because i guess not many people have a command named ACLOCAL_AMFLAGS in their PATH.
11:48.28ipaqlornot even hardcore bit letter filename msdosusers :) because of the 8+3 ;)
11:48.39ipaqlors/bit/big/
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11:55.21Jay7slapin: check who is maintaining python recipes in OE and ask directly
11:55.26Jay7imho this is shorter way
11:55.29Jay7or ask in ML
11:56.03Jay7iirc, kergoth` or khem anknowledged with python in OE but they are on other side of Earth ;)
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11:59.09kobe_Ok, thanks. I'll check the settings
12:02.58slapinJay7: thanks a lot!
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13:06.35felipealmeidaHi, why was boost-jam-native removed from openembedded?
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13:33.14slapinI found one of the causes of my python problems, but I don't know how to fix it properly.
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13:34.19slapinif I symlink Lib/plat-linux2 to Lib/plat-linux3 most of stuff is installed properly.
13:34.42slapinthat is for native
13:34.54slapinbut I don't know if it is proper way
13:35.07slapinprobably another simlink is needed in package
13:35.29slapinor renaming post-processing is needed
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13:38.28JaMaslapin: maybe you need something like this? http://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=4b7e7b004dacb698ed637f35661a60d2402c00cd
13:38.57JaMaslapin: python works for me fine but for 2.7 I was always using linux3
13:40.36slapinJaMa: no, regen works
13:41.14slapinJaMa: if you can, could you fire-up your python binary and do 'import IN' inside
13:41.57slapinJaMa: if it works when built on linux3 I want to see your logs and patches
13:43.44JaMain which subpackage it should be provided?
13:44.01slapinpython-misc
13:44.16slapinJaMa: python-misc
13:46.55JaMaseems to work even on linux2 build http://paste.pocoo.org/show/541584/
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13:50.31slapinJaMa: a problem is on linux3 as build host
13:52.40slapinJaMa: well, I think, I have an idea for temprorary workaround - will build just these modules and add custom package
13:53.04slapindonno how to fix core python package
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14:03.22slapinah wow
14:03.30slapinI found a workaround
14:04.02slapinoe_runmake MACHDEP=linux2 solves all problems completely
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14:04.40slapinso, how to put that into receipe properly...
14:05.07ant_workEXTRA_OEMAKE ?
14:06.55slapinant_work: yeah
14:07.06slapinant_work: thanks
14:07.13ant_workyw
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15:34.16denisATeukreahmmm
15:34.17denisATeukreahi
15:34.41denisATeukreathe firefox of meta-mozilla does illegal-instruction
15:34.43denisATeukreafor me
15:34.59denisATeukreaso I gdbserver+gdb it as usual
15:35.13denisATeukreabut instead of finding x86 stuff or arm for the wrong arm version
15:35.16denisATeukreaI find that:
15:35.18denisATeukrea<PROTECTED>
15:35.56denisATeukreaI guess I need an up to date arm manual
15:35.59denisATeukreaand look it up?
15:36.05denisATeukreastrange isn't it
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16:02.49kergoth`so, for once I'm actually going to be at a conference. I'll be at the yocto dev day and the rest of ELC this year
16:02.56kergoth`(first time since going to ols in like '04 or something.. sad)
16:03.07pb_heh
16:03.10pb_very good
16:03.28kergoth`hopefully i can talk them into sending me to elc-e too, that'd be nice, never know
16:04.34kergoth`bleh, so glad the week is just about over
16:04.39fraykergoth where do you live nomrally?
16:05.13kergoth`scottsdale, az
16:05.47frayahh.. so it's not that bad of a trip for you..
16:06.00frayI still have to book my airline tickets and hotel.. mgmt is being slow with final approval
16:06.11fraybut I'll be there as well for the Yocto day and ELC
16:06.14kergoth`nah, couple hour flight, probably barely hit cruising altitude before heading back down
16:06.16kergoth`cool
16:06.25fraylittle longer trip from Minneapolis
16:06.45kergoth`ah, I didn't realize you lived in minneapolis. pretty much all of my family is there, thats where i grew up
16:07.26kergoth`goes to get some caffeine before he falls asleep in his chair
16:08.02slapinkergoth`: hi
16:08.25denisATeukreais that normal in gdb: 0x2c050044 <+540>:   ; <UNDEFINED> instruction: 0xffffd3d4
16:08.27slapinkergoth`: I was told you can help me with my python-2.7.2 troubles
16:08.32denisATeukreaor is that the cause of my illegal instruction?
16:09.03kergoth`slapin: what troubles?
16:09.59slapinkergoth`: might you be kind and look at oe-core mailing list? I fixed one part with setting MACHDEP=linux2 in EXTRA_OEMAKE, but _ncurses.so is still not built.
16:10.34kergoth`ah, your issues are with building the target python.. I'm no expert in crosscompiling python, though I doubt anyone is, with the possible exception of mickeyl
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16:10.59denisATeukreavalhalla, also did some stuff with python
16:11.12slapinkergoth`: python-2.7.2 build with linux-3.x build host
16:11.16denisATeukreamickeyl, now do more vala than python tough
16:11.32denisATeukreaframeworkd was in python
16:11.48denisATeukreabut now it is replaced by cornucopia(not totally tough) which is in vala
16:12.11valhalladenisATeukrea: that was with oe classic, however, and mostly related with sugar
16:12.18denisATeukreaok
16:12.23slapinI wonder how basic problems went missing, it seems nobody uses python these days
16:13.00denisATeukreaso maybe git log on python recipes to see who touched it the last
16:13.17kergoth`plenty of people use python, but don't know how many use it on the target..
16:13.30denisATeukreaalso grep for inherit distutils and such things?
16:13.34denisATeukreas/?//
16:13.51slapinvalhalla: could you help me with python cross-compile woes?
16:13.56denisATeukreavalhalla, did you migrate to oe-core yet?
16:14.30valhalladenisATeukrea: I'm trying, with not much success (mostly in the area of what goes where)
16:14.41denisATeukreaok
16:14.50denisATeukreawhat are the issues?
16:15.03valhallaslapin: I'm a bit rusty in oe lately
16:15.09kergoth`for what its worth, in an oe-core migration, i'd suggest copying someone elses setup/layout so you have a known working baseline. use poky, or angstrom-setup-scripts, or the shr setup scripts, or similar
16:15.49slapinpart of this problems is even with building python-native, IN module is not built/installed. when I set MACHDEP=linux2 it all worked. But it still reports missing ncurses stuff, while it is installed.
16:16.08slapinNo errors during build at all, just reports missing stuff in the end
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16:18.48slapinvalhalla: http://ossfans.org/py/ build logs
16:21.20denisATeukreaslapin, To find the necessary bits, look in setup.py in detect_modules() for the module's name.
16:21.34denisATeukreadid you do that?
16:23.10slapindenisATeukrea: yeah, probably I missed something, but everything seems to be in place
16:23.53denisATeukreawhat's the build system of python?
16:24.02denisATeukreaautootools?/,distutils?
16:24.08denisATeukreas#/##
16:25.36slapindenisATeukrea: autotools + custom stuff
16:25.51slapindenisATeukrea: custom stuff is written in python
16:25.52denisATeukreafears the custom stuff
16:25.55denisATeukreaok
16:25.59denisATeukreaouch
16:44.25murianimuriani1
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17:25.24jekhorHi. Current OE-Core + meta-oe, postgresql building: http://paste.debian.net/153811/ . How to resolve this?
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17:30.39CosmicPenguinYou shCamera will not have any use case related to the OCMEM. Hence the corresponding memory sector(192KB) can be assigned to needed area.
17:30.42CosmicPenguinack
17:30.49CosmicPenguinsorry
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19:49.00cs_nbpflo_lap: hey! la= nbp? ^:p
19:49.08cs_nbp+p
19:49.59cs_nbpflo_lap: anyways I read through some stuff, do I got it right when I think that we need to port dga in addition to exa?
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20:11.27flo_lapre
20:12.55flo_lapcs_nbp: no not yet :) its still my little thinkpad
20:14.09cs_nbpflo_lap: I'm using much ssh -X atm for missing applications and it is surprisingly fast
20:14.33cs_nbpflo_lap: also found an experimental release of nxclient for arm to play around w
20:15.02cs_nbpflo_lap: could be an interesting recipe for oe anyways ;)
20:16.39flo_lapcs_nbp: yes indeed
20:17.16flo_lapneeds to get oe building again
20:19.16flo_lapshoots pixman
20:19.33cs_nbpupdate meta-oe ;)
20:19.46cs_nbpand oe core
20:19.53cs_nbphad that tonight
20:21.01cs_nbpversion of pixman changed
20:24.11cs_nbpflo_lap: btw I believe I fixed irda - just enabled an irda serial console option in kernel and it stopped complaining
20:28.24cs_nbpno hw to test it though, or can serial console be established over the irda of a dvbt stick?
21:01.06cs_nbpah dam a friends laptop doesnt start, gota take a look (suspect cr2023 bios battery)
21:07.34cs_nbpwrong chan sry
21:08.26khemERROR: Nothing PROVIDES '"base-passwd'
21:08.26khemNOTE: Runtime target 'systemd' is unbuildable, removing...
21:08.26khemMissing or unbuildable dependency chain was: ['systemd', '"base-passwd']
21:08.29khemanyone seeing it
21:09.33pb_I think someone posted a patch for that on the list.
21:10.53khemok
21:11.51pb_seems that RP checked in a bogus patch to useradd.bbclass
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21:13.35khemDoes he know about it ?
21:14.28khemcommit 63d006b2d3fc2223c74f81b91f70f5c841108c80
21:14.28khemAuthor: Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>
21:14.28khemDate:   Fri Jan 27 16:59:37 2012 +0000
21:14.28khemuseradd: Ensure dependencies are only added for target recipes, not native or nativesdk
21:14.31khemthis one ?
21:14.38pb_yeah
21:14.56pb_if he has been reading the list, he should know about it.  I don't know whether he has or not.
21:15.24pb_I guess he might be off duty, which is fair enough being Friday evening
21:18.44khemhmm it seems the patch is tied to bitbake
21:18.55khemsince I upadated both I got bitten
21:19.56kergothkhem: there's a patch for it on the list, missing trailing quote
21:21.42khemkergoth: quick link ?
21:21.50khemI dont have my mail handy here
21:22.11khemlet me fix it by hand
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23:27.16ant__khem: , pb_ : is in this sed a bashism? >tz=$(sed -e 's:#.*::' -e 's:[[:space:]]*::g' -e '/^$/d' "${src}")
23:27.44Jay7ant__: looking ok
23:27.59ant__the double square bracket scares me
23:28.06Jay7it's sed syntax
23:28.09Jay7not shell
23:28.52Jay7[[:space:]] match any whitespace symbol
23:29.01ant__well..all this work to read out /etc/timezone ?
23:29.43Jay7this doing something with $src and saves result in $tz :)
23:30.00Jay7saves output
23:31.12ant__I think I've finally simplifies the script: [[ ]] are found in bash and ksh afaik
23:31.23ant__here for sed are ok, then
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