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01:12.57XorAka6sox: worraworraworra
01:13.22ka6soxorly!
01:14.10XorAka6sox: in bay area next week :-D
01:14.35ka6soxokay I need to go there too...so lets try to connect for that Beer.
01:15.07XorAwill you be at ELC?
01:15.19ka6soxyep
01:15.32XorAthink Im meeting koen sat before ELC for a beer
01:15.41XorAat ELC venue
01:15.48ka6soxokay, that sounds good
01:15.59XorAmy GF will be there also
01:17.04XorAis leaving on the Sunday :-(
01:17.28ka6soxtoo bad you can't stay for ELC
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01:17.50ka6soxknow that one
01:18.01XorAand I get to do round world flight for first time in lie
01:18.02XorAlife
01:32.14ka6soxwow...not done that yet
01:32.27ka6soxyour GF must like that
01:41.01Russhooray elc
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02:14.00XorAka6sox: GF is only joining me for bay area
02:14.06XorAka6sox: Im alone in Tokyo at moment :-D
02:14.16ka6soxtokyo! oh my
02:14.43XorAka6sox: hence why I am awake and you are awake at same time :-D
02:14.52ka6soxI was wondering
02:14.56ka6soxwe normally aren't
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02:53.47otaviogn people
02:53.49otaviotime to sleep
02:53.51otavio;-)
02:53.52otaviocya
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09:59.00bluelightningmorning all
09:59.12Jin^eLDmornin
10:00.41floriangood morning
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10:13.46pb_hi all
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10:36.59mckoangood morning
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11:00.27ben22Hello. Could someone possibly explain where a basic 'inherit scons' recipe looks for its SConstruct file?
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14:46.19Crofton|workhttp://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/blogs/browse/2012/01/free-embedded-linux-training-yocto-developer-day-february-14th
14:46.41Crofton|workhmm, I think this describes our relationship with Yocto fairly well:
14:46.57Crofton|workThe project is supported by major embedded hardware vendors, embedded Linux operating system vendors, the OpenEmbedded Project, and many other organizations, with a governance structure based on the open source tenets of transparency and meritocracy.
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15:03.28CIA-203Paul Eggleton <paul.eggleton@linux.intel.com> 07master * r43b473275d 10bitbake.git/ (bin/bitbake-layers lib/bb/cooker.py lib/bb/providers.py): (log message trimmed)
15:03.28CIA-2bitbake-layers: improve show-overlayed output
15:03.28CIA-2Make the following improvements to the show-overlayed subcommand:
15:03.28CIA-2* Show recipes that are overlayed when the version is higher or lower,
15:03.28CIA-2not just when it is the same. This gives a much better picture of the
15:03.29CIA-2influence each layer is having over the metadata used for building.
15:03.30CIA-2This can be disabled with the -s option if you just want to see
15:03.30CIA-203Paul Eggleton <paul.eggleton@linux.intel.com> 07master * rf6493e4bad 10bitbake.git/bin/bitbake-layers: (log message trimmed)
15:03.31CIA-2bitbake-layers: list overlayed classes in show-overlayed
15:03.31CIA-2Classes (.bbclass files) can be overlayed in a layer although they are
15:03.32CIA-2currently located by BitBake in a different way (via BBPATH instead of
15:03.32CIA-2using layer priority) and thus it is useful to be able to see when this
15:03.33CIA-2is in effect and which layer's class is actually being used.
15:03.33CIA-2Signed-off-by: Paul Eggleton <paul.eggleton@linux.intel.com>
15:03.34CIA-203Paul Eggleton <paul.eggleton@linux.intel.com> 07master * r05e86ba966 10bitbake.git/bin/bitbake-layers: (log message trimmed)
15:03.34CIA-2bitbake-layers: add show-recipes subcommand
15:03.46CIA-2bitbake-layers: add copyright notice
15:03.46CIA-2This ought to have been added earlier. (I consulted with Chris Larson on
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18:37.31Jin^eLDhas anyone noticed any problems with busybox udhcpc? on my system its sometimes started several times in parallel
18:37.44Jin^eLDI am debugging the scripts, but not yet sure where it is coming from
18:37.59Jin^eLDbuild is OE Core / Angstrom based
18:38.06kergothmultiple interfaces set to auto? :)
18:38.26Jin^eLDkergoth: nope
18:38.31Jin^eLDthat's the confusing part :)
18:39.23Jin^eLDboth are started to for eth0
18:39.28kergothdamn, was hoping it was an easy one :)
18:39.30kergothdunno
18:40.09Jin^eLDI could not yet figure out who exactly is supposed to be starting the dhcp client
18:40.18Jin^eLDifup?
18:40.41kergothmost likely, yeah
18:45.41Croftonis Alex Lennon here?
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19:12.48msmanyone know how to get distutils to pass through some LDFLAGS?
19:12.56msmi've never used distutils at all
19:13.23msmldflags= ?
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19:54.10spacecolonyoneHi guys, I'm ready to start hacking on some of the kernel source files. What is the preferred way to do this? Figure out what revision oe is pulling for my image, clone repo, checkout that revision that and start editing, then change the src uri from the web to my working copy?
19:54.47spacecolonyoneOr perhaps just hack on it in the work directory until I've got something that works
19:55.33Jin^eLDspacecolonyone: if you hack in the workdir or devshell, be carefull not to -c clean your changes
19:56.40spacecolonyoneright. eventually I'll still need to clone and c/o to diff against, generate patch and add that to my custom recipe, no?
19:58.09khemspacecolonyone: build a meta-toolchain for concerned arch install it on your machine and use this SDK to do your work is another option
19:58.41khemand then when you commit those changes to your kernel git tree you can keep updating the SRCREV in the recipe
19:58.49Jin^eLDwell it depends on how you want to approach it I guess, not seldom if I have to fix something in an existing recipe I hack in -c devshell (it's convenient because you have all the scripts to compile and install the package) and when I feel that it works well enough I diff my changes to the original package, then copy the diff to the recipe and make sure it gets applied, and rebuild the whole thing then
19:58.50khemand keep rebuilding rfs+kernel
20:01.11spacecolonyonekhem I'm a bit concerned that that route means I'll be learning two tool chains, also since I'm building this for an astronomical instrument that someone else may oneday support I'd like to keep the number of steps to a minimum. E.g. I want to keep it so I or anyone in the future can simply do bitbake my-image
20:02.19darknightekoen: ping
20:02.30spacecolonyoneJin^eLD: that should promising, when you say hack in -c devshell you are referring to arguments to what? bitbake? I just tried that and it doesnt seem to work
20:02.49Jin^eLDspacecolonyone: if you want to try my approach I'd do the following
20:03.06spacecolonyones /should /sounds
20:03.12otaviokhem: Are you the one working in kmod for oe-core?
20:03.29Jin^eLDmake sure you remove rm_work from your conf, just to make sure it does not wipe your workdir too soon
20:03.46Jin^eLDthen clean your recipe, i.e. bitbake -c cleanall yourkernel
20:03.53Jin^eLDtheb bitbake -c install yourkernel
20:03.59Jin^eLDthen bitbake -c devshell yourkernel
20:04.13Jin^eLDfrom this point on you can start hacking; to compile you simply run ../temp/run.do_compile.xxx
20:04.17khemotavio: yes I am
20:04.33khemotavio: I am seeing a segfault when generating rootfs
20:04.44Jin^eLDif you need to generate the uboot image, etc, just see what other run scripts you have in ../temp - they will do the work for you
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20:04.57khemits kind of strange that it does not dump core so I am not sure if its kmod binary or something else
20:05.01khembut I know its due to kmod
20:05.04Jin^eLDbtw when I am speaking of "temp" in this sense I mean workdir/yourarch/yourkernelrecipe/
20:05.08otaviokhem: right
20:05.22khemotavio: so I am still working on isolating the problem
20:05.33spacecolonyonethat directory isn't under git control though, right?
20:05.43otaviokhem: I am asking because I am working at udev and for 180 we need it.
20:06.05khemotavio: ok. I think once I get it working we can have it on oe-core
20:06.24khembut so far it does have some kinks to iron our
20:06.27Jin^eLDspacecolonyone: afaik it's not, I remember it used to be in OE classic couple of years ago (at least it did work for svn back then, not sure about git)
20:06.34otaviokhem: I'll keep working using 175 as base but I'd like to propose 180 directly as it is going to drop a lot of diverging code between oe-core and meta-oe
20:07.07spacecolonyoneso then to diff and patch I still need to go manually clone the kernel elsewhere right?
20:07.08otaviokhem: once you have something usable, please ping me so I can test the patches and get it on a local branch to play with it
20:07.26khemotavio: I already have something
20:07.42Jin^eLDspacecolonyone: yes, or just copy the sources in workdir to some .orig directory so you have the original for later diff'ing
20:07.44darknightedenix: ping
20:07.53khemotavio: http://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core-contrib/log/?h=kraj/misc-fixes
20:07.58khemsee the top 3 patches
20:08.15khemdarknighte: why that extra 'e' at the end :)
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20:08.24khemdarknighte: does that mean 'embedded'
20:08.58darknightekhem: it's always been there, but you can think of it as embedded, if you please.
20:09.12darknightekhem: you going to ELC in 2 weeks?
20:09.17khemyes I do
20:09.33khemhmm I always thought it was without e
20:09.42spacecolonyoneok. so I actually had rm_work in my local.conf, but I was still able to find the file I need to screw with (board-omap3beagle.c) hanging around in a subdir or /work/
20:10.28otaviokhem: but if I can't build a rootfs it doesn't work for me to test
20:10.38otaviokhem: so it is a no-go for me at this moment
20:10.52khemotavio: at least try may be its something crazy in my env
20:11.28darknightecan anyone confirm that the meta-ti layer supports both the original beagleboard and the beagleboard xM?
20:11.37otaviokhem: will do; but before I need to finish 175 as it is quite close of 180 regarding as the changes needed in oe to handle it
20:11.48otaviokhem: mostly because of backward compatibility issues
20:11.52khemnod
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20:15.20denixdarknighte: pong
20:15.26denixdarknighte: I can confirm
20:15.43darknightedenix: thought as much, but thought I'd check.
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21:11.36mickeylwhere are the OE guys staying for FOSDEM this year?
21:12.53kergothkhem: ooh, kmod instead of module-init-tools for images? nifty
21:13.09khemkergoth: yes :)
21:13.26khemkergoth: I dont see any reason to have module-init-tools-cross do you ?
21:13.43kergothwouldn't think so, not anymore anyway
21:13.51khemyeah
21:14.14khemI have this crazy segfault that I am not sure is in kmod or caused in some other tool by kmod
21:14.22khemstarce is not dumping anything
21:14.38khemand setting ulimit -c umlimited is not saving core
21:14.55khembut it says it recieved a segfault
21:15.01khemthis do_rootfs task
21:15.29kergothstrange
21:15.45khemit is indeed
21:17.02khembut if I use depmod from module-init-tools all works
21:17.16khemso its definitely something kmodish
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21:18.05khemSIGFOOD
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22:36.30pb_evening all
22:37.20Jin^eLDhi pb_
22:38.20khemHi pb_ you back home or still in states
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22:41.13GNUtoohi
22:41.24GNUtootzdata 2001g is in meta-oe
22:41.36GNUtootzdata 2011n is in openembedded-core
22:42.14khemGNUtoo: there was a patch to consolidate the differences into oe-core
22:42.23khemafter that one if meta-oe should go away
22:42.33GNUtoook
22:42.37GNUtoobecause we have that bug:
22:42.50GNUtoohttp://www.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1549
22:42.51spacecolonyonecheers guys, I'm off to CA to build this spectrograph!
22:44.13GNUtookhem, when the patch will be in?
22:44.21khemno idea
22:44.40khemor may be it made in I havent tracked
22:44.57GNUtoook
22:45.29GNUtoothanks a lot for the infos
22:49.15GNUtooit didn't made it
22:49.19GNUtoothere was a ping
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