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07:06.13mckoangood morning
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07:11.06silvio__morning all
07:12.13mckoansilvio__: hi
07:13.12likewisemorning
07:17.44silvio__mckoan, hi
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07:45.12apeletegood morning
07:53.30mckoangm apelete, likewise, all
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08:11.24silvio__hi apelete
08:12.15bluelightningmorning apelete, silvio__, all
08:14.21apeletehi mckoan, silvio__, bluelightning
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08:17.21silvio__hi bluelightning , hi all :P
08:17.27silvio__hi bluelightning , hi all :)
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08:21.00silvio__I broken something in my building machine, when I build a SDK, not only my, the gcc executable for i686 are not  deployed inside, some suggest?
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08:30.03mckoansilvio__: in that case I delete the whole tmp :-(
08:30.39bluelightningI doubt that will help
08:33.42silvio__mckoan, do you mean tmp-eglibc?
08:35.19silvio__mckoan, or also  out-eglibc and tmp-eglibc
08:41.28mckoansilvio__: I have had random build problems in the past and was caused by file corruption in tmp-eglibc, a total rebuild solved (to me)
08:42.02mckoanof course that wasn't an OE problem
08:47.47apeletespeaking of tmp-eglibc, how is the name of that directory chosen ?
08:47.51apeletemy tmp directory is named "tmp-eglibc-eglibc" and I wonder if that's normal
08:48.01apeletehttp://paste.debian.net/248197/
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08:49.38bluelightningapelete: what is your DISTRO value?
08:49.48bluelightningapelete: usually this indicates defaultsetup.conf is being parsed twice
08:50.07silvio__my is quite different, I had following folders:
08:50.26silvio__downloads out-eglibc  sstate-cache tmp-eglibc
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08:51.54apeletebluelightning: according to bitbake output my DISTRO is "jlime-2010.1" (the same value as in local.conf)
08:52.43bluelightningapelete: ok... what does bitbake -e | less indicate for TMPDIR? it should show how it is getting set
08:56.05silvio__bluelightning, for my TMPDIR="/home/oe-core/build/out-eglibc"
08:56.52silvio__so I immagine that I have to delete not only tmp-eglibc, but also out-eglibc, I m right?
08:57.20silvio__or is useless? Because I prefer don t remove all builded :(
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09:00.05apeletebluelightning: ha, defaultsetup.conf is being parsed twice indeed, you're right: http://paste.debian.net/248200/
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09:01.34apeleteI copied the file in my conf/distro dir AND included in my distro file too
09:02.10apeleteit's only monday and I'm feeling ashamed already...
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09:42.10apeletebluelightning: seems it wasn't me after all, defaultsetup.conf is included from bitbake.conf from oe-core
09:43.27apeleteI guess I'll remove "require conf/distro/defaultsetup.conf" from my distro conf file then
09:45.01bluelightningapelete: so it is... I did not realise that :/
09:45.08bluelightningsorry if I led you astray
09:46.03apeleteno problem, you pointed me on the right track nonetheless
09:49.34bluelightningI've just fixed the migration guide
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10:05.42apeletegreat
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10:07.36apeletebluelightning: if I set 'DEFAULTTUNE_ben-nanonote = "mips32el-nf"' instead of 'DEFAULTTUNE = "mips32el-nf"', the setting is not taken into account
10:07.48apeletewhat am I missing ?
10:08.11bluelightningapelete: what does bitbake -e | less report for DEFAULTTUNE?
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10:08.38bluelightning(in the first instance)
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10:17.16dv_apelete: dont trust the regular bitbake output when you run it. I had the same problem. bitbake -e should show that you are using mips32el-nf
10:18.02dv_I hope this is fixed in daryl...
10:18.08bluelightningdv_: you mean the "build configuration" output at the start of the build?
10:18.14dv_yeah
10:18.35bluelightningI'm not sure if anyone filed a bug for that one or whether it got fixed
10:18.41apeletebluelightning: here it is
10:18.43apelete$ bitbake -e | grep DEFAULTTUNE
10:18.43apelete# $DEFAULTTUNE [5 operations]
10:18.43apeleteDEFAULTTUNE="mips32el-nf"
10:18.52dv_there you go, it is being used
10:19.38apeleteyeah, but build ocnfiguration output is showing wrong info like you said dv_ :
10:19.38apeleteTUNE_FEATURES     = "o32 bigendian fpu-hard mips32"
10:19.38apeleteTARGET_FPU        = ""
10:19.52dv_I had the same problem, as said. I set DEFAULTTUNE_<machine> to a hardfp setting in local.conf , and it didnt show "callconvention-hard" in the build config
10:20.18bluelightningright; and as apelete is using master (correct?) we still have the bug :/
10:20.25dv_but checking with bitbake -e , and looking at the arguments used for gcc by running ps ax showed me that hardfp was indeed being used
10:20.43apeletebluelightning: yes, using bitbake's master branch
10:20.57bluelightningapelete: what about oe-core?
10:21.01dv_bluelightning: I was pointed to a patch in the mailing list, but it didnt help
10:21.12apeletebluelightning: master branch of oe-core too
10:21.16bluelightningok
10:21.32bluelightningdv_: could you please file a bug at bugzilla.yoctoproject.org?
10:21.38dv_http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded.core/30164 <- this one
10:22.17dv_gotta go now, but will do as soon as I am able to
10:22.24apeletethanks for helping dv_
10:23.38bluelightningthanks
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10:50.59ensc|whates anonymous python functions in global .bbclass'es; especially these which do d.getVar(..., True)... devshell bbclass creates now an huge unreadable stacktrace when a SRC_REV=${AUTOREV} can not be determined
10:52.45bluelightningwe could of course fix the error handling so a backtrace doesn't occur
10:54.37ensc|wit is still conceptually broken; why does devshell need to expand ${SRC_REV} in the recipe parsing phase?
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11:10.39bluelightningensc|w: probably because it needs to determine PV ?
11:10.52bluelightningwithout PV you can't have WORKDIR
11:17.53ensc|wbluelightning: I know this; that's why I hate anonymous python functions in global .bbclass'es; especially these which do d.getVar(..., True).  For PV this might be not a direct problem because this variable it expanded at other places too. But such functions introduce silent problems
11:18.39bluelightningensc|w: what alternative would you suggest?
11:25.09ensc|wavoid such anonymous functions or use d.getVar(..., False).  For the devshell.bbclass case, I am not sure what to do because all the related code is very dirty and it is not obvious to me when/whether global variables (e.g. os.environ in terminal.bbclass) are set/reset
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11:43.53hrwhello
11:44.13hrwJaMa: can you take a look at my libvpx and tbb patches?
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11:55.28hrwhm. external-toolchain-linaro, GCCVERSION = "linaro-4.7" and it tries to build random gcc with 'bitbake gcc'
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11:59.26JaMahrw: yes, when I find some time
11:59.33hrwthanks
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12:00.34JaMahrw: btw libunwind_1.1.bb is still failing to build on qemuarm as reported before, not sure why it slipped through my prepush check and I've applied it
12:01.02hrwJaMa: was working here ;(
12:04.01hrwok sorted out gcc - layers priorities matter
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12:20.30silvio__hello hrw
12:25.03hrwhi silvio__
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13:18.20silvio__I broken something in my building machine, when I build a SDK, not only my, the gcc executable for i686 are not  deployed inside, some suggest?
13:18.38silvio__could related to this?:
13:18.46silvio__ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'virtual/i686-angstromsdk-linux-gcc' (but /home/oe-core/build/../stuff/meta-btw/recipes-devtools/tasks/task-test-toolchain-host.bb DEPENDS on or otherwise requires it)
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13:49.42apeletebluelightning: removing defaultsetup.conf from the distro conf file introduced an eglibc build error
13:49.47apeletehttp://paste.debian.net/248236/
13:50.28bluelightningapelete: looks a lot like your DISTRO_FEATURES is empty or at least has no libc-* features in it
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13:55.46apeletebluelightning: that's strange, how can it be empty since there is a "include conf/distro/defaultsetup.conf" in bitbake.conf ?
13:56.08bluelightningapelete: use bitbake -e | less to find out what has happened to DISTRO_FEATURES
13:56.56apeletebluelightning: okay, thanks. (gotta be used to bitbake -e)
13:57.23bluelightningapelete: the tracing of operations is brand new (and very useful in these kinds of situations)
13:57.47bluelightninghence why I suggest piping through less rather than grep since grep will filter out that info
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14:15.28apeletebluelightning: adding DISTRO_FEATURES += "${DISTRO_FEATURES_LIBC_DEFAULT}" in distro conf seems to fix it (still building, but got past eglibc already)
14:17.02bluelightningapelete: presumably you're setting DISTRO_FEATURES with = ?
14:17.13hrw| checking for arm-oe-linux-gnueabi-gcc... arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc -march=armv7-a -marm -mthumb-interwork -mfloat-abi=hard -mfpu=neon --sysroot=/home/hrw/HDD/devel/canonical/aarch64/openembedded/build/tmp-eglibc/sysroots/genericarmv7a -march=armv7-a -marm -mthumb-interwork -mfloat-abi=hard -mfpu=neon -isystem/home/hrw/HDD/devel/canonical/aarch64/openembedded/build/tmp-eglibc/sysroots/genericarmv7a/usr/include --sysroot=/home/hrw/HDD/devel/canonical/aarch64/openembedded/bu
14:17.16bluelightning(which is fine)
14:17.20hrwfun
14:19.07apeletebluelightning: using += since I let defautsetup.conf manage the DISTRO_FEATURES setting
14:19.29apeletebut I'll read the bitbake -e output more closely to undesrtand why the setting was squashed
14:20.19bluelightninghmm
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14:24.59dv_bluelightning: the aforementioned bug with the build config belongs to OE core or to bitbake
14:25.00dv_?
14:27.35apeletebluelightning: built the kernel successfully by adding DISTRO_FEATURES += "${DISTRO_FEATURES_LIBC_DEFAULT}" (instead of require'ing defaultsetup.conf). time to go back to the bitbake -e output and see what differs
14:27.41bluelightningdv_: I think OE-Core since that's where that info is gathered
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14:53.25dv_a little bit, yes :)
14:56.21apeletebluelightning: got it, the culprit is bitbake.conf. it is setting DISTRO_FEATURES ?= "" at line 723
14:56.24apeletehttp://paste.debian.net/248255/
14:56.40apelete(I love bitbake -e already, powerful feature)
14:57.04dv_yeah
14:57.26dv_but when you start digging into OE, or writing complex recipes, you start wishing for a cluster as the build machine :)
14:57.34bluelightningapelete: ok... I guess it expects the distro config to set an appropriate value in that case
14:57.48bluelightningbrb
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15:00.22afournieri am baking a library that is hosted on github, but using the tarball from the website. once unpacked the name of the directory is something like "username-Project-dXXXX" how can i specify S so it does not care of the XXXX ?
15:00.50apeletedv_: I built an 8-core cpu machine with 16GB of ram because I was digging into OE
15:01.02bluelightningafournier: hmm... you could mv it at the end of do_unpack perhaps...
15:01.22afournierbluelightning: you always have good ideas !
15:01.28apeletedv_: a cluster may be my next build machine ;)
15:02.36dv_apelete: look at what this guy uses: http://www.mail-archive.com/openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org/msg21702.html
15:05.14apeletedv_: wow. well, I am not digging into OE that hard yet :)
15:05.56bluelightningyou don't need a huge machine to get reasonable build times: http://www.burtonini.com/wordpress/2012/11/15/yocto-build-times/
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15:09.58apeletethat's the kind of build times I get on my 8-core AMD cpu with 16GB of ram (using a 256GB ssd instead of hdd though)
15:11.11apeleteseems reasonable to me since the machine was not that expensive (bought the parts last january and assembled it myself)
15:12.48apeletewish I had an intel cpu though, but they were too expensive compared to amd counterparts
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15:17.43dv_stick lots of ram in your machine, and you are pretty well off already I guess
15:18.18dv_(because then you have a huge disk cache)
15:20.12apeleteyeah, and I'm also using a webcache proxy to cache downloaded archives locally (on a 2TB hdd. ssd is for devel purpose only)
15:23.20apeletecaching doesn't work for content downloaded from git/svn/scm, but it's better than nothing (I hate it when a download server is offline when I need it)
15:24.19bluelightningwe do produce tarballs from scm fetches... won't help if you don't specify a full fixed revision for SRCREV though
15:25.36dv_I have a "yocto-downloads" directory. it is holy and those who delete stuff from it get hunted down by a squad of men in black. :)
15:25.58apeletebluelightning: you mean there are tarballs of scm fetches available on oe mirrors ?
15:26.40bluelightningapelete: I think we do provide those for releases yes
15:26.56bluelightningapelete: but not necessarily for latest master at a given time
15:27.20bluelightningon the yoctoproject.org mirrors that is
15:28.59apeletebluelightning: that means bitbake will fetch from the tarballs instead of the scm if I give it the exact SRCREV in a recipe ?
15:32.55apeletewhile working on oe-classic I found out that having a dl server going offline is a huge pain in the back, that's why I setup a webcache proxy locally (and I configured it to keep files on the disk for months)
15:35.29bluelightningapelete: ah now I see what you mean by webcache
15:36.04bluelightningapelete: you can set up a local mirror with PREMIRRORS (even easier setup via own-mirrors.bbclass)
15:37.32apeletebluelightning: good to know, wasn't aware of that so I chose to set up squid on my build machine
15:38.08apeleteevery single download goes through squid, and if the file has been download before, it is served from the hdd
15:38.59apeleteexcept for files hosted on a scm of course
15:39.27apeletes/download/downloaded/
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15:44.53ensc|wis it expected that do_package_setscene() is executed for every package everytime when an image is built?  do_fetch + do_write_srcrev + do_build + do_rm_work is called for every package in RunQueue then
15:46.53bluelightningensc|w: it's a known interaction problem between buildhistory and rm_work in latest master
15:47.13ensc|wok, thx
15:47.57bluelightningensc|w: FYI: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2013-April/037881.html
15:48.17bluelightningI should have a go at doing the postfunc change tonight actually
15:49.23dv_btw how do you call something like VAR[index] ?
15:49.29dv_what is this? a dictionary?
15:49.34bluelightningdv_: that's a varflag
15:49.41dv_ah
15:50.10dv_do the pre/postfunc varflags exist on OE-classic?
15:50.21dv_I have this one recipe that still uses populate_package_prepend
15:50.25bluelightningI'm not sure, but I suspect not
15:50.36bluelightningdv_: that should still be valid...
15:50.47dv_I'd like to replace that with a prefunc. but this recipe is supposed to run with OE-classic as well (specifically OE-classic with arago)
15:51.10bluelightningdv_: that won't be possible because of the tabs/spaces change if nothing else
15:51.17dv_it would solve the issue with the indentations, yocto uses 4 spaces, arago uses tabs
15:51.18bluelightningyou'll need to have two different versions
15:51.32dv_but prefuncs are their own functions, they are not simply appended
15:51.43bluelightningindeed
15:51.54dv_which is why I would like to use them. then I need only one version.
15:52.10dv_there would be no mixup of spaces and tabs
15:52.16bluelightningwell, I can only say good luck with that - there are other differences
15:52.24dv_:/ oh well.
15:52.31bluelightningit may well work but I'm not sure that it will
15:52.33kergothit's awy more trouble than its worth. branch and be happy
15:52.37dv_currently I do have two different populate_package_prepend versions
15:52.54dv_I'll stick to that then, as ugly as it may be
16:05.09ensc|wmmh... busybox mount does not work with systemd :(   the 'mount -o remount /' does not make it rw as expected
16:06.51kergothtry an explicit rw, perhaps? mount -o remount,rw /?
16:06.52kergothshrug
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16:08.07ensc|wkergoth: systemd's systemd-remount-fs.service calls only 'mount -o remount'
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16:08.47ensc|wkergoth: accordingly man-pages, this is the correct thing and mount -o remount should takes options from /etc/fstab
16:12.15bluelightningensc|w: is it a case that we're currently disabling a busybox option that we need to enable?
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16:16.07ensc|wbluelightning: I do not think so; I enabled all mount related options except mtab and see this behavior
16:17.33bluelightninghmm, kind of sounds like a busybox bug then
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16:38.24hrwdoes openembedded-core/scripts/sstate-cache-management.sh works for someone?
16:40.31hrwI have 61404 files in sstate-cache (62GB)
16:41.15hrwok know why
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16:41.42hrwwrong cache dir...
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17:17.54apeletebluelightning: built the kernel successfully with the right distro_features setting, at last. (thanks for your help btw)
17:18.07bluelightningapelete: np
17:18.40apeletebut I'm still getting a weird error messages at the end of the build:
17:18.40apeleteERROR: Creation of tar /fast/devel/oe-core.git/meta-jlime/build/tmp-eglibc/deploy/tar/kernel-vmlinux-2.6.36-r0.tar.gz failed.
17:18.40apeleteERROR: Creation of tar /fast/devel/oe-core.git/meta-jlime/build/tmp-eglibc/deploy/tar/kernel-dev-2.6.36-r0.tar.gz failed.
17:19.35bluelightningapelete: are you inheriting package_tar somewhere?
17:19.52apeletebluelightning: yes, in my distro conf
17:20.04bluelightningah right, I suspect that may be broken
17:20.07apeleteI have PACKAGE_CLASSES += "package_tar"
17:20.15bluelightningdo you use that?
17:20.39apeletethe tar file ? ye.
17:20.50apeletes/ye./yes./
17:21.03bluelightningah ok, what for just out of curiosity?
17:21.41apeleteit easier to upload the images to the jlime community that way
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17:22.04apeleteI could tar it by hand I guess...
17:22.13bluelightningapelete: hang on, tarballs of the image and packages are separate things...
17:22.36bluelightningpackage_tar is about creating a tarball for individual packages
17:22.55apeleteah, that's not what I want then
17:23.03apeleteI want tarballs for my images
17:23.21bluelightningah right, in that case just ensure tar.gz (or tar.bz2, or just tar, etc.) is in IMAGE_FSTYPES
17:23.49apeleteokay, I already got that: IMAGE_FSTYPES = "tar.gz tar.bz2 jffs2"
17:24.09bluelightningok, so you should be set, and you can remove the package_tar line that's causing errors
17:24.18apeleteso I guess I won't be needing the PACKAGE_CLASSES += "package_tar" setting
17:24.22bluelightningright
17:24.27apeletethanks.
17:24.33bluelightning(although to be fair it shouldn't error out like that)
17:27.21apeleteit errors but the packages are created nonetheless: http://paste.debian.net/248301/
17:27.49bluelightninghmm, odd
17:29.04apeleteanyway, I won't be needing them. I only want tarball of my final image and I still have work to do before getting there
17:29.15apeletethanks for helping :)
17:30.05bluelightningapelete: you're welcome :)
17:31.15bluelightningapelete: just looking at your patch... would you mind adding a header to the included kernel patch mentioning what it does, Upstream-Status and adding your signed-off-by?
17:35.48apeletebluelightning: hmm, the changes I did in that patch are already in the mainline kernel. I just looked at the kernel changesets and applied the same fixes.
17:36.12bluelightningapelete: ah ok, it would be Upstream-Status: Backport in that case
17:36.22bluelightningwhich is really useful to know when you're updating the kernel recipe :)
17:36.37apeletebluelightning: ok, I'll add it then
17:36.41bluelightningthanks
17:37.19apeletebluelightning: is there an exemple of such an header in OE I can look at to get it right ?
17:37.29bluelightningone sec
17:37.32apeletes/exemple/example/
17:39.05bluelightningapelete: http://cgit.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/recipes-core/dropbear/dropbear/nopw-option.patch
17:39.32bluelightningso not too much info needed really
17:40.19apeletebluelightning: great, thanks. I'll do a patch v3 as soon as I can (maybe tonight)
17:40.41apeletegotta go, see you later.
17:40.46bluelightningapelete: thanks, cya
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20:20.42JaMawoglinde: I think I know why you're seeing so many do_package_setscene executions with rm_work, http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2013-February/035382.html
20:20.50JaMaNo enf
20:20.51JaMaof chain tasks depend directly on do_package anymore.".
20:21.10JaMaprobably we have too many task still depending on them
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22:31.03spacecolonyoneSo I've got my own bbappend for a kernel, and in it I do MACHINE_KERNEL_PR_append="foo". I build and deploy my angstrom image all works, but opkg list-upgradable reports my kernel as being upgradable. I don't want this
22:31.57spacecolonyoneWhat have I failed to configure to prevent this. In essence, I'd like to break chain so it NEVER reports it can be upgraded
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22:39.04ant_homeapelete: no way to boot vanilla kernels on ben-nanonote?
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