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| 08:28.44 | silvio_ | morning all |
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| 08:44.48 | bluelightning | morning silvio_, all |
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| 09:23.40 | pb_ | hi all |
| 09:33.34 | florian | hi pb_ |
| 09:45.44 | mckoan | good morning |
| 09:48.33 | florian | hi mckoan |
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| 13:37.27 | mckoan | which package name is needed in core-image-minimal to add libc ? |
| 13:40.32 | mckoan | if I cross-compile a helloworld it doesn't find libc.so.6 in the fs, I expected it by default in every image |
| 13:41.00 | mckoan | helloworld doesn't find libc.so.6 at runtime in the target of course |
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| 13:55.45 | bluelightning | mckoan: something is very wrong there... how would the system start without eglibc? |
| 13:55.52 | bluelightning | assuming you're not using a different libc that is |
| 14:00.10 | mckoan | bluelightning: it surprised even me |
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| 14:00.42 | mckoan | bluelightning: I'm doing a triple-check |
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| 14:35.50 | mckoan | bluelightning: I migrated to Dylan 1.4 and it works, apologize the noise ;-) |
| 14:36.04 | bluelightning | mckoan: ok, good that it's resolved anyway |
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| 15:48.07 | mckoan | is is possible to reduce the side of qt4e-demo-image? removing demo and examples would be enough? |
| 15:49.39 | bluelightning | mckoan: certainly, just create a copy of the image and packagegroup-core-qt4e and modify as desired |
| 15:50.51 | mckoan | bluelightning: weird, I get the same size |
| 15:51.35 | bluelightning | mckoan: actually, that packagegroup probably needs a bit of work |
| 15:51.54 | bluelightning | mckoan: it pulls in qt4-embedded which pulls in all of Qt 4 |
| 15:52.10 | bluelightning | so the rest of the Qt packages listed don't do anything |
| 15:54.28 | mckoan | bluelightning: I reduced RDEPENDS_${PN} in packagegroup-core-qt4e |
| 15:54.44 | bluelightning | mckoan: but did you also remove qt4-embedded? |
| 15:54.57 | bluelightning | mckoan: with that still there it won't matter which qt packages you remove |
| 15:55.09 | mckoan | bluelightning: no, only qt4-embedded-demos and examples |
| 15:56.24 | mckoan | bluelightning: looks like qt4-embedded.inc is my friend :-D |
| 15:56.58 | bluelightning | mckoan: ? |
| 15:57.16 | mckoan | is it possible to remove a RRECOMMENDS in a image.bb ? |
| 15:57.37 | mckoan | if that RRECOMMENDS is set at a deeper level? |
| 15:58.36 | mckoan | needs a pause |
| 15:58.51 | pb_ | yes, you can make it a BAD_RECOMMENDATION |
| 15:59.04 | bluelightning | pb_: except that only works for ipk |
| 15:59.10 | bluelightning | mckoan: why do you need to do that? |
| 16:00.02 | mckoan | bluelightning: nevermind, sorry |
| 16:00.13 | pb_ | ah, yes, fair enough. if you are an rpm user then you should patch your package manager to support that feature and then use it. |
| 16:00.45 | bluelightning | there's a bug open for that at least |
| 16:00.51 | bluelightning | against me, I think |
| 16:00.55 | pb_ | heh |
| 16:01.12 | bluelightning | (it's not rpm that needs patching, FWIW, it's smart) |
| 16:06.33 | mckoan | have a nice resto of the day |
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| 18:03.50 | tasslehoff | cbrake: ping |
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| 18:08.15 | cbrake | tasslehoff: hi |
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| 18:10.29 | tasslehoff | cbrake: hi. I'm trying to throw out connman from my rootfs, and koen said you had some useful udev stuff for handling network. |
| 18:10.56 | tasslehoff | is that stuff indeed useful, and is it available? :) |
| 18:15.35 | cbrake | tasslehoff: sure, let me find it |
| 18:16.18 | cbrake | tasslehoff: stuff I did is fairly simple -- handles hotplugging of a USB NIC, but currently does not handle re-insert -- basically good enough for development netork connection, but not production grade. |
| 18:17.03 | khem | it is useful I can confirm ? |
| 18:17.07 | khem | I have used it :) |
| 18:17.17 | cbrake | :-) |
| 18:17.33 | tasslehoff | cbrake: ok. we have the usb nic on board, but kinda hotplug it since I have to modprobe the modules as part of our boot process. they are never removed, as that can cause musb to go into serious depression.. |
| 18:17.37 | tasslehoff | :) |
| 18:17.44 | khem | except that BindTo is broken in systemd |
| 18:18.27 | khem | tasslehoff: then these network hotplug service from cbrake will be helpful for you |
| 18:18.43 | cbrake | tasslehoff: https://gist.github.com/cbrake/5092651 |
| 18:19.12 | tasslehoff | what I need is a way to start networking when eth0 shows up, and have stuff working on changes between static/dhcp and no-link/link |
| 18:19.25 | cbrake | tasslehoff: interested in any improvements |
| 18:19.39 | cbrake | tasslehoff: this should handle starting networking when eth0 shows up |
| 18:20.46 | cbrake | tasslehoff: I've not tested no-link/link lately |
| 18:20.55 | tasslehoff | cbrake: great. thanks. will let you know if I change/improve it |
| 18:21.04 | tasslehoff | cbrake: but it should/could work? |
| 18:22.21 | cbrake | tasslehoff: might give you a head start -- no guarantees :-) |
| 18:22.30 | tasslehoff | :) |
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| 18:23.43 | tasslehoff | I guess what I will need is this, and another service I can use to do ifup/ifdown when I change between dhcp and static. that could maybe monitor link status as well. |
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| 19:14.11 | halstead | Crofton khem, Moving the lists now. We'll have a few minutes of downtime. |
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| 19:19.08 | mr_science | so i had a do_rootfs fail with my rpi build but the log doesn't really show any errors |
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| 19:41.39 | mr_science | running with -D -D so I should have a bigger log to look at when i get home... |
| 19:42.47 | eren | hey there |
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| 20:05.40 | kergoth` | thinks about coding up a potential bb.fetch2 alternative which is a standalone command-line fetch tool |
| 20:06.14 | eren | kergoth`: wget? :P |
| 20:06.35 | fray | I'd love to see an external tool that just takes in the SRC URI.. |
| 20:06.40 | kergoth` | wget/curl for the main portion, yeah. but then the rest for the scm uris, etc |
| 20:07.04 | fray | I'd also love to see the system fetch -all- of a recipes sources in parallel.. (last time I looked it was one source at a time) |
| 20:07.11 | kergoth` | basically curl + additional fetch methods + caching (DL_DIR) + coherent, consistent proxy handling |
| 20:07.22 | fray | yup |
| 20:07.24 | eren | oh proxy, still in use today? |
| 20:07.29 | eren | prefers VPN |
| 20:07.40 | kergoth` | lots of big companies still block ports |
| 20:07.54 | fray | eren, most big companies still use proxies it seems, and as kergoth said.. port blocing |
| 20:08.06 | eren | vpn solves the problem of apps that do not support proxying |
| 20:08.17 | fray | vpn also get people fired from those companies |
| 20:08.27 | fray | and you have to have somewhere external to VPN to |
| 20:08.30 | eren | I'm sorry but wtf |
| 20:09.00 | fray | not unusual that all communications have to run though company approved resources (i.e. proxies) |
| 20:09.02 | eren | does ssh get those people fired as well? |
| 20:09.06 | fray | ys |
| 20:09.08 | fray | yes |
| 20:09.13 | eren | omg |
| 20:09.15 | fray | and I'm not kidding |
| 20:09.32 | eren | enterprise fascism |
| 20:10.35 | eren | they say, then, "you are a slave of ours, you don't need anything but outlook and company stuff, just get the hell to your work" |
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| 20:15.03 | kergoth` | heh, it always makes me think of Snowcrash, where they try to claim ownership of what's in the employees heads |
| 20:15.12 | kergoth` | should reread that, its been a while |
| 20:16.15 | fray | looks at his BSD - Mentally Contaminated pin |
| 20:16.22 | kergoth` | hah |
| 20:16.22 | kergoth` | nice |
| 20:16.23 | fray | (look at that -AT&T- up..) |
| 20:16.30 | eren | listens to Paul Mauriat-El Bimbo |
| 20:17.17 | khem | halstead: great |
| 20:17.26 | kergoth` | guess I might pursue the standalone fetch tool thing some weekend, since there's at least some interest in such a thing. I want to give more thought to the design of the URI/URL scheme for each scm than we did when creating bb.fetch, though |
| 20:17.33 | halstead | khem, Almost done with the move. |
| 20:18.14 | fray | just updated to the latest oe-core.. and I'm now getting a "NOTE: LOG: ..." for each task.. |
| 20:18.32 | fray | wonders if that is intentional |
| 20:19.00 | kergoth` | heh, sounds like a remnant debug message |
| 20:24.39 | fray | yup |
| 20:24.56 | fray | my thinking exactly.... I suspect bitbake, but I'm not sure since I updated them both at once |
| 20:25.28 | fray | i.e. |
| 20:25.28 | fray | NOTE: LOG: /home/lmhatle/git/lpd/build-1/bitbake_build/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/mtd-utils-native/1.5.0-r3/temp/do_fetchall/log.do_fetchall.32386 |
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| 20:41.44 | fray | how odd.. I ran it again and it didn't do it this time |
| 20:42.52 | kergoth` | heh |
| 20:42.54 | kergoth` | gremlins |
| 20:47.19 | fray | I love gremlins in my bitbake.. :P |
| 20:48.48 | mr_science | loves cupcakes |
| 20:52.16 | Crofton | halstead, how did it go? |
| 20:52.35 | halstead | Crofton, It should have just come up now. |
| 20:52.46 | Crofton | k |
| 20:53.06 | halstead | Crofton, Do you have the password to unpublish the lists at linuxtogo? |
| 20:53.14 | Crofton | no |
| 20:53.23 | Crofton | if I do, I forgot it :) |
| 20:53.28 | halstead | Crofton, Maybe Jefro? |
| 20:53.39 | Crofton | maybe |
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| 20:53.47 | Crofton | he may be backup on some |
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