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06:31.44pti'm using sstate-cache
06:31.54ptbut i'm getting error
06:32.06ptfatal error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
06:32.17ptafter using sstate
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08:02.35likewiseJaMa: Good morning. Do you remember why this revert was done? (sry if I asked twice -- needed to run last time) https://github.com/openembedded/meta-oe/commit/c8aa4b10b2ab341bbcb163d041c44c1a20172ee1#diff-e738151ff5956440b2b29ff001e00311
08:03.14likewiseJaMa: reverts nodejs 0.10.x
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08:49.08JaMalikewise: Hi, it was pushed by accident and wasn't ready (gateone isn't compatible with that)
08:49.28JaMalikewise: if you're intested in nodejs 0.10.x you can check meta-webos layer
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09:19.43likewiseJaMa: thanks
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09:25.45TobyGI want to make a recipe that installs a config file and use that config by another recipe in the do_configure stage. I tried a number of things, but without success. How do I do this?
09:33.07koenwhere should a gptfisk recipe go?
09:33.12koenoe-core or meta-oe?
09:33.19koenand if meta-oe, which layer?
09:36.31ant_workgptfdisk you mean?
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09:40.57koenant_work: yes
09:41.12koencan't figure out parted
09:41.27koenand parteds i18n is &*#%*%# annoying
09:41.50ant_workkoen: heh, last days I've hackintoshed again ;)
09:42.03bluelightningmorning all
09:44.04koenhey bluelightning
09:44.13bluelightninghi koen
09:44.35koenant_work: I've been doing winter cleaning on my x86 machines
09:44.58koenmy hatred for ACPI has increased tenfold
09:45.29koenor rather vendor provided ACPI blobs that are $*($*(@ broken
09:46.01koenand of course you can buy x86 systems with no ACPI in their BIOS
09:46.14koenbut intel in all their wisdom only supports ACPI based cpufreq on atoms
09:47.51ant_workah, the lovely ACPI tables ;)
09:49.28koenwhy load a proper linux driver when you can just bitbang it using bytecode?
09:49.39koenant_work: I have no problem with the tables
09:49.52koenyou need a way to describe HW
09:53.16koenbut I do have a new appreciation for UEFI and especially UEFI shell
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09:57.07ptTobyG: You can copy that config file to sysroot and then you can use i think
09:57.39ant_workkoen: nostalgy of bare-metal arm bootloaders?
09:57.50pt<PROTECTED>
09:57.58ptbut i'm getting error
09:58.06ptfatal error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
09:58.12ptafter using sstate
09:58.27ant_workkoen: fwiw I was tempted to go back to lilo whan Gentoo switched to grub2 ;)
09:58.46koenant_work: me too
09:58.52pti have removed thhe build folder from where i am using the sstate
09:59.08koenant_work: but I figured out that you don't need to use the byzantine grub-install
09:59.15koenjust write your own config :)
09:59.35koenant_work: my system still had grub 1.97, which didn't support ext4
10:00.02ant_workkoen: I'm beating grub2 with --force to install in the linux partitions...
10:01.34koenUEFI is so nice
10:01.43koenjust use uefi stub :)
10:01.49koenor if you want gummiboot
10:01.54koenno need for grub
10:02.25koenbut since I'm hypocritical I'm trying to get grub2 working on arm using uboot as chainload :)
10:04.58ant_workkexec -l grub
10:10.18bencohkexec -l grub ?
10:10.20bencohhmm
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10:12.04koenu-boot -> linux -> grub -> linux would be a bit much
10:14.22bencohjust a lil bit
10:22.04ant_workwhen I find some time I'll create a kexecboot-USB dongle and try to boot onboard grub
10:24.23likewiseremembers discussion during bareboot talk where gleixner tried to convince the future bootloader for the Linux kernel... is a Linux kernel. (i.e. why duplicate more and more drivers into the bootloader).
10:24.38likewise^convince +that
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10:26.28likewisealso remembers writing a Linux kernel into the BIOS PROM (coreboot predecessor on Via M 6000 ITX board). From power-on to prompt in <2 secs on x86...
10:26.58koenmicrosoft tried to fix that with their fastboot requirement
10:27.19koeniirc POST needs to be below 2s
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11:09.44likewisefrom zero to nowhere in under 2 secs with microsoft
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11:34.00pb_morning all
11:37.15likewisepb: good morning
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12:58.16bluelightningmorning pb_
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13:17.32pb_hi bluelightning, likewise
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16:04.14mario-goulartI'm getting an error when baking classpath-native: http://paste.debian.net/75948/  Has anybody seen this?
16:05.42mario-goulartI'm using meta-java, master branch.
16:06.58jackmitchellmario-goulart: have you updated recently?
16:07.09jackmitchellmario-goulart: there were some recent commits to fix this
16:07.41mario-goulartjackmitchell: I updated the meta-java tree yesterday.
16:08.10jackmitchellmario-goulart: I would post with a full config log in here then: https://github.com/woglinde/meta-java/issues/49
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16:13.36mario-goulartjackmitchell: thanks.  That thread mentions a patch I don't have in my tree (https://www.mail-archive.com/openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org/msg34182.html).  It seems that it is not merged into meta-java yet.
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16:26.11mario-goulartI wonder where that PR bump comes from in the patch.  Master doesn't even have PR and in the openjdk-7 branch, PR is 3.
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16:31.17jackmitchellmario-goulart: yeah, I'm not sure that patch is relevant
16:31.36jackmitchellmario-goulart: I would just make sure you're on meta-java/master
16:32.03jackmitchellthe openjdk-7 branch is _old_
16:32.10mario-goulartjackmitchell: yeah, I'm using master.
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17:39.11mario-goulartIf I try to bake jikes, do_configure fails because jikes-initial (a shell script) can't find jikes.  The actual error message is in cacao-initial's config.log.  Looks there's some dependency issue somewhere.
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18:46.40ndechi, are PV sorted like debian versions are sorted? e.g. I am especially interested to know if we have 1.0~1 < 1.0 < 1.0+1
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19:31.16koenndec: iirc it's not completely like debian
19:31.27koenndec: in oe-classic we had an ipkg-version-compare script
19:31.45koenndec: but then opkg was fixed upstream, so the script didn't match opkg anymore :(
19:34.17JaMaand it has C and shell version of ipkg-version-compare in opkg-utils
19:36.02koendoes opkg-make-index match opkg.c nowadays?
19:36.38koenI remember opkg-make-index doing the right thing and hence masking bugs in opkg
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19:50.36kergothhe also asked about PV specifically, so it's possible he's asking about recipe version comparison for the default preferred version, which of course is the comparison in the bitbake code rather thant he bits in opkg-utils
19:50.38kergothshrugs
19:57.49mario-goulartIt seems that the problem with the java stuff boils down to "cacao-initial: resolve.c:348: resolve_classref_or_classinfo: Assertion `c->state & 0x0002' failed."
19:57.57sr105sorry for asking a common question: How can I determine why the hash has changed on a shared state file?
19:58.26mario-goulartI've seen that error mentioned on this channel at least two times in 2009, but no solution.
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20:08.25ndeckoen: kergoth: JaMa: sorry, was having dinner... so, yes it's about PV. i am currently working on recipes that will be v2.0 soon, but aren't yet. so I wanted to use 2.0~svnREV for the version, so that when v2.0 comes out it is higher.
20:08.53kergothndec: just set DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" in the pre-release recipe, so it will never be autoselected unless the user specifically chooses it with PREFERRED_VERSION
20:09.06kergoththen you dont' have to worry about the peculiarities of the sorting, unless you're setting up package feeds
20:10.06ndechmm.ok.
20:11.14ndecnever autoselected, what happens if there is only 1 recipe and it has DEFAULT_PREFERENCE=-1?
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20:17.42sr105What goes into an OEBasicHash?
20:25.34JaMakoen: I don't remember, but IIRC I was fixing one of them to do the same as the other one
20:26.34JaMakergoth: or unless they are in different layer
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21:05.08pb_ndec: if there's only one eligible recipe then it will be selected no matter how low its preference is.
21:05.25ndecah, thanks.
21:06.39pb_morning kergoth
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21:19.55ndechi. is it considered 'ok' to do something like RPROVIDES_${PN} = 'virtual/foobar' in a recipe? i would have expected so, but couldn't find such a pattern anywhere...so i am wondering if i should do that..
21:20.37ndecbasically, i need to include an implementation (and only 1) of 'foobar' in an image. and I have multiple 'provider' of foobar.
21:20.41JaMandec: no, virtual/* are usually used only for build-time dependencies
21:21.03ndecso, how do we do that for run time depends?
21:21.26JaMandec: for runtime it doesn't work very well, you can use RPROVIDES_${PN} = 'foo', but to determinisc selection of runtime providers use VIRTUAL-RUNTIME variable
21:21.47JaMaVIRTUAL-RUNTIME_foo ?= "bar"
21:21.59JaMaRDEPENDS_${PN} = "${VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_foo}"
21:22.16JaMaand then you can change VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_foo = "something-else" in your distro config
21:22.18ndecah. cool.
21:22.58ndecthat's exactly what i need. i didn't know about this var..
21:24.12bluelightningit's not really a variable, just a convention
21:24.29ndecyeah, that's what i just realized..
21:24.59ndecso, why not using virtual/xxx for run time? any particular reasons?
21:26.42bluelightningpackage managers don't really support it properly
21:27.09bluelightningAIUI
21:34.24ndecbluelightning: JaMa: thanks. and it just works ;-)
21:43.12pb_ndec: "virtual/xx" wouldn't work for runtime because "/" isn't a valid character in package names :-}  I think there is some precedent for RPROVIDES_.. = "virtual-runtime-xx" but possibly not in oe-core itself.
21:44.16pb_but, like bluelightning said, package manager support is fairly patchy.  opkg in particular is particularly bad at dealing with semi-virtual packages.
21:44.25ndecok. that explains it. too bad it was defined as a convention with a '/' ;-)
21:44.38JaMaI think there was some other reason than invalid character
21:45.38JaMahttp://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2012-December/071540.html
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21:47.47JaMaah now I remember, the main problem is that PREFERRED_PROVIDER setting isn't respected by packagemanagers and people assume that RPROVIDES/RDEPENDS configuration work the same as build-time deps (P_P)
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