IRC log for #oe on 20140220

00:21.45mr_sciencekhem: i think that's correct, although it doesn't looks like the other TI stuff (eg, omx)
00:22.20mr_sciencenot sure if it was adopted or what, but there used to be another test package
00:25.24mr_scienceokay, the other one i'm thinking of is Linux Functional Test Bench
00:25.45mr_sciencehttp://arago-project.org/git/projects/?p=test-automation/target-code/psp/lftb.git;a=summary
00:26.46mr_sciencethe ltp-ddt stuff is TI's device driver test package based on ltp
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01:28.01denixkhem: pong
01:29.04denixkhem: right, ltp-ddt is ours. I saw your patch on meta-oe - did you have any questions?
01:30.17denixmr_science: correct. and lftb was discontinued
01:39.22mr_scienceright
01:40.24mr_sciencewe actually use ltp-ddt for some of our hardware tests
01:40.56mr_sciencewith a minor patch for the mmc_perf test
01:41.34mr_sciencenight
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02:32.08khemdenix: yes, the damn thing doesnt compile again
02:33.14khemdenix: whats difference between KERNEL_INC and KERNEL_USR_INC
02:35.44khemKERNEL_USR_INC = kernel sanitized headers exported to userspace I guess
02:36.09khemand KERNEL_INC are the headers inside configured kernel src tree
02:42.55khemhmm the issue could be gold
02:43.03khemlinker
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04:38.38*** topic/#oe is OpenEmbedded Developer Lounge | Web: http://openembedded.org | Repositories: http://git.openembedded.org/ | Primary Repo Mirrors: https://github.com/openembedded | This is not a distro or machine support channel
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05:02.22waynrnerdboy: do you see those messages in dmesg?
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05:21.02nerdboyno, the do_rootfs log
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05:22.49nerdboyi'm trying to work around an upstream regression in the rpi sdimg bbclass
05:23.38nerdboyso i rolled it back two commits and it works again, but i had a large-ish IMAGE_ROOTFS_EXTRA_SPACE set so the image was over 1 GB
05:24.20nerdboywith the latter back to the default of "0" i get the errors ahove
05:25.15nerdboygranted my image file adds quite a few packages, but it always worked before
05:29.30nerdboylet's try adding 100 MBs or so of extra space...
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06:31.46nerdboyhttp://paste2.org/B9hNxLe6  <=  same error
06:32.52nerdboylog is huge, need to look at it more thoroughly
06:35.27khem`nerdboy: update to latest master
06:35.29khem`its fixed
06:36.13nerdboyjust pulled yesterday
06:36.24nerdboymaybe the day before, but okay...
06:39.08khem`whats your top commit
06:39.23nerdboyjust pulled again right now
06:39.58nerdboydracut: update to 036   <=   commit 90045a49e50eb0177a8aee5cc318caf037ac603d
06:40.21nerdboyoops, that's meta-openembedded
06:40.46nerdboyheh, looks familiar...
06:40.49nerdboyimage_types.bbclass: Fix tar IMAGE_CMD to not change directories
06:41.35nerdboycool
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08:56.35mckoangood morning
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09:57.59bluelightningmorning all
10:12.01mckoanhi bluelightning, all
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10:32.15jackmitchellwhat var is used to define the final image name?
10:32.23jackmitchellmy google fu is weak this morning
10:32.55jackmitchellah, image_name, my bad
10:33.28jackmitchellslinks off to find an enlightened caffeine state
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11:20.08jackmitchellhmm, is anyone running a new 1.22.1 busybox system?
11:20.29jackmitchellif so could you tell me what your HOME env var is
11:24.42jackmitchellhmm, no matter it seems it variers on my different systems, must be a bug my end
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14:00.48ndechi. is it okay to define custom 'features' for DISTRO_FEATURES and/or MACHINE_FEATURES? I am making my own distro, and i need to add my own custom features.. these features are used only in  our recipes
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14:06.20bluelightningndec: no problem with doing that
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14:07.09bluelightningPACKAGECONFIG can be used for some cases where the option is only applicable to one or two recipes
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14:15.47ndecok. thanks.
14:15.47ndeci know about PACKAGECONFIG.
14:15.47ndecbut i needed something that spans recipes.
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14:19.37bluelightningndec: right, that would be DISTRO_FEATURES (and/or MACHINE_FEATURES depending on where the decision is to be made)
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14:38.19ndechi, another question... is it possible to 'negate'  an override? e.g. i want to set a variable for all machines but one.
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14:40.40koenndec: anon python method
14:40.59ndecok... that's what I was afraid of ;-)
14:41.30koenndec: e.g. https://github.com/Angstrom-distribution/meta-angstrom/blob/master/conf/distro/include/arm-defaults.inc
14:42.57ndeckoen: hmm. nice. actually i probably should copy/paste that in my distro, regardless of my initial question ;-)
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14:44.01koen:)
14:44.25koenonly meta-fsl-arm breaks with that
14:44.31koenbut that layer does the wrong things:
14:44.36koen1) set hardfp in machine.conf
14:44.51koen2) set hardfp using the cortex tunes instead of the armv7a tunes
14:46.28ndechmm. am i doing the right things then...
14:46.53ndecwe do this in machine .conf : DEFAULTTUNE ?= "cortexa9thf-neon"
14:47.00ndechides...
14:54.07koenyeah, that is wrong
14:54.41koenit's a DISTRO setting and if you think you're special enough to do it in the MACHINE, use the armv7a tunes
14:54.48ndeckoen: yeah, i remember you saying hardfp was DISTRO, not MACHINE, now. but what about cortexa9 vs armv7a
14:54.53koenotherwise you'll get a different package arch for every cortex
14:55.38koenndec: I don't want my package arch to change when switching between beagle, panda, arndale-octa, etc
14:56.05ndecright. but what if we want to use cortexa9 flags. where should that be set?
14:56.18koenalso, which cortex tune should you use for big.little machines?
14:56.22koena15, a7, both?
14:56.34ndeci understand...
14:56.43koenndec: you can set a9 flags in that same method
14:56.55ndecbut the rationale was to use the most optimized flags for a given machine
14:57.11koenI haven't seem real life difference with it, but khem says it can make a difference for very specific libs
14:58.21koenfor a9 you'll need to reorder your NEON asm as well
15:00.40koenI'm glad to be proven wrong on the a8 vs a9 tune thing, but I haven't seen it make a measurable difference yet
15:00.57koenwhich means that the reverse could be true as well
15:01.06koenthat it won't matter for a8 based boards :)
15:03.53ndeckoen: ok. the decision to use the cortexa9 flag is not necessarily mine.. and i don't want to challenge that for now. so if i understand correctly, doing the DEFAULTTUNE in machine .conf or in DISTRO with something like you have in angstrom, woudl have the same end result, but is prefered.
15:03.56ndecmethod
15:04.36ndecbasically, the machine should not 'enforce' a specific tune. but should just load the right tune-xxx .inc file, and let the distro pick its tune.
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15:10.19Crofton|workndec, yes
15:10.30ndecok. i get it now...
15:10.37ndecand it even makes sense, in fact ;-)
15:10.57Crofton|workeven for my distroless builds I put the tune settings in my lcoal.conf so I do not rebuild loads of stuff when I switch machines :)
15:13.44koenif I get annoyed enough I might send the meta-fsl-arm guys a python snippet that says their binary only stuff is hardfloat
15:13.49koenlike meta-ti has
15:14.08koenwhich reminds me, need to send a patch to meta-ti to limit that message to arm
15:14.56ndecwell, can you send that to me?
15:15.03denixkoen: patches always welcome!
15:15.04ndeci can add that in our layers at least...
15:15.33ndecoh, meta-ti has it... so i will look for it.
15:16.26denixndec: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-ti/tree/recipes-graphics/libgles/libgles-omap3_5.01.00.01.bb#n25
15:17.02ndecnice ;-)
15:17.21koenndec: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-ti/tree/recipes-graphics/libgles/libgles-omap3_5.01.00.01.bb#n25
15:17.24koenah, too slow
15:17.55koendenix: that needs a TARGET_ARCH check as well, since it triggers on non-arm builds
15:18.12ndecsince we are here... i never used anonymous function. when does it get executed?
15:18.33denixndec: at the end of parse
15:19.02denixkoen: hmm, good point
15:19.23ndecin which order?
15:19.28koendenix: and it also triggers for armv5te (qemuarm), but I'm not sure how to fix that
15:20.12denixndec: around finalize, but not 100% sure
15:22.22ndeckoen: denix ; aren't the PVR compiled compiled for armv7+ + hf?
15:22.41ndecshould we skip the package if armv5 or armv6?
15:22.45koenndec: the newer ones are
15:22.54koenwell, they were always armv7
15:22.59koenbut nowadays they are hf
15:23.17ndecso filtering on hardfp isn't enough then. no?
15:23.23koenI remember mentioning hardfloat issues at my job interview at TI :)
15:24.19koenndec: due to the cortex tune thing I'm not sure we can do better than arm && hf
15:24.56koenndec: the armv5 problem solves itself: the kernel modules won't build :)
15:25.02WarheadsSEonly thing applicable after that is vfp3d16/ vfp3d32/ vfp4
15:25.54koenright
15:26.07koenI suspect vfp4 might make a real difference
15:26.21ndechmm. is OE going to be the first distro with systemd-209 ;-)
15:26.26koenbut the only 'test' I've encountered changes float, cpufreq and vfp4 at once
15:26.39koenndec: no, since OE is not a distro ;)
15:26.58ndecright... so angstrom ;-0
15:26.59koenand gee, what do you now, if you change all those linpack will go faster
15:27.23koen(linpack is a useless microbench, but that's a different matter)
15:27.25WarheadsSEkoen: lol.. might roll to arch soon
15:32.20koenndec: with my angstrom hat on: I'll wait for v210
15:32.37XorAkoen: you got Angstrom hats these days :-(
15:34.46koenXorA: if you lived further south  I'd send you angstrom clogs and wellies
15:35.42XorAkoen: did you see the joke map with the new Scottish Channel :-)
15:36.02koennot yet
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15:38.09XorAkoen: http://www.veooz.com/news/GtPc4C.html
15:39.35rburtonha!
15:39.43rburtonso the flooding was a ploy by the scots
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15:41.01denixheh :)
15:41.22XorArburton: an Englishman. Scotman and Irishman find a magic lamp, the genei offers each of them a wish, the Irishman asks for a lifetime supply of whiskey. the englishman asks for a 100ft high wall to be built round england to keep the immigrants out, the scotsman ponders for a few seconds then says, see that wall, fill it up with water!
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17:46.23awozniakin a recipe, during configure, what's the best way to pass flags (command line params) into the underlying config invocation?
17:46.44rburtonEXTRA_OECONF
17:48.09awozniakrburton: ty
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