| 00:23.33 | *** join/#oe kgilmer (~kgilmer@2604:2000:84c7:2d01:6982:d828:7d32:108b) |
| 00:28.51 | *** join/#oe kgilmer (~kgilmer@184.152.73.182) |
| 00:44.09 | *** join/#oe rburton (~rburton@35.106.2.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 00:53.39 | *** join/#oe rburton (~rburton@35.106.2.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 01:34.46 | *** join/#oe Crofton (~balister@pool-71-171-37-254.ronkva.east.verizon.net) |
| 02:03.39 | *** join/#oe s3v3n62mm2 (~s3v3n62mm@p5DDC049D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:04.04 | nerdboy | wonders which Jefro is the One True Jefro |
| 02:06.31 | nerdboy | i suppose i could try counting shoes... |
| 02:11.48 | *** join/#oe rburton (~rburton@35.106.2.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 02:16.15 | *** join/#oe jfkelly (~quassel@c-76-25-132-15.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 02:21.19 | *** join/#oe rburton (~rburton@35.106.2.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 02:36.41 | *** join/#oe joeythesaint (~joe@209.141.56.162) |
| 02:37.27 | *** join/#oe sr105 (~sr105@65349hfc19.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 02:57.19 | *** join/#oe rburton (~rburton@35.106.2.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 03:01.52 | *** join/#oe s3v3n62mm (~s3v3n62mm@p5DDC3A38.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:09.49 | *** join/#oe rburton (~rburton@35.106.2.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 03:19.20 | *** join/#oe rburton (~rburton@35.106.2.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 03:22.17 | *** join/#oe pompomJuice (~pompomJui@41.0.38.138) |
| 03:30.19 | *** join/#oe Vutral (~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral) |
| 03:31.50 | *** join/#oe rburton (~rburton@35.106.2.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 03:33.53 | *** join/#oe NvrBst (~NvrBst@gateway/tor-sasl/nvrbst) |
| 03:41.22 | *** join/#oe rburton (~rburton@35.106.2.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 03:49.53 | *** join/#oe jfkelly (~quassel@76.25.132.15) |
| 03:50.04 | *** join/#oe Vutral (~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral) |
| 03:51.23 | *** join/#oe rburton (~rburton@35.106.2.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 04:21.32 | *** join/#oe neabax (~neabax@192.77.239.81) |
| 04:26.54 | *** join/#oe rburton (~rburton@35.106.2.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 04:29.57 | *** join/#oe kurre2 (~tomimo@xdsl-83-150-88-111.nebulazone.fi) |
| 05:02.00 | *** join/#oe rburton (~rburton@35.106.2.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 05:05.00 | *** join/#oe lumag (~lumag@nat-min.mentorg.com) |
| 05:11.30 | *** join/#oe rburton (~rburton@35.106.2.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 05:45.00 | *** join/#oe rburton (~rburton@35.106.2.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 05:50.22 | *** join/#oe adelcast (~adelcast@130.164.62.193) |
| 06:23.56 | nerdboy | Crofton: did you make this page? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USRP |
| 06:27.50 | *** join/#oe ao2 (~ao2@host224-141-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 07:34.01 | *** join/#oe Jay7x (jay@2.93.2.234) |
| 07:35.36 | *** join/#oe khem__ (~khem@c-98-207-177-218.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 07:37.01 | *** join/#oe sr105 (~sr105@65349hfc19.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 07:43.02 | *** join/#oe Igel_ (~igel@addicted.to.cjdns.meshte.ch) |
| 08:01.27 | *** join/#oe rburton (~rburton@35.106.2.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 08:10.59 | *** join/#oe rburton (~rburton@35.106.2.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 08:14.04 | *** join/#oe ao2 (~ao2@host193-151-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 08:20.59 | *** join/#oe rburton (~rburton@35.106.2.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 08:28.11 | *** join/#oe rob_w (~rob@unaffiliated/rob-w/x-1112029) |
| 08:29.33 | *** join/#oe balkamos (balkamos@unaffiliated/motley) |
| 08:29.33 | *** join/#oe tbr (dm8tbr@cl-790.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) |
| 08:38.49 | *** join/#oe ccube (ccube@nx.ccube.de) |
| 08:55.31 | *** join/#oe rburton (~rburton@35.106.2.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 08:58.56 | *** join/#oe ccube (ccube@nx.ccube.de) |
| 09:02.05 | *** join/#oe roxell (~roxell@c-853670d5.07-21-73746f28.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 09:02.06 | *** join/#oe roxell (~roxell@linaro/roxell) |
| 09:22.24 | *** join/#oe ant_home (~andrea@host190-250-dynamic.11-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 09:27.21 | *** join/#oe DJWillis (~djwillis@cpc2-trow6-2-0-cust204.aztw.cable.virginm.net) |
| 09:36.26 | *** join/#oe balkamos (balkamos@unaffiliated/motley) |
| 09:36.26 | *** join/#oe tbr (dm8tbr@cl-790.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) |
| 10:04.26 | *** join/#oe ao2 (~ao2@host112-79-dynamic.57-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 10:28.59 | *** join/#oe ao2 (~ao2@host85-93-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 11:05.56 | *** join/#oe balkamos (balkamos@unaffiliated/motley) |
| 11:05.57 | *** join/#oe tbr (dm8tbr@cl-790.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) |
| 11:38.09 | *** join/#oe dos1 (~dos@unaffiliated/dos1) |
| 12:06.10 | XorA | OFFS 10 years on and file is still a PITA :-( |
| 12:31.30 | koen | XorA: the libmagic 'file'? |
| 12:38.58 | XorA | koen: yes |
| 12:39.20 | XorA | I remember used used to have to fix that ever couple of weeks or so back in the day :-( |
| 12:40.38 | koen | yes |
| 12:40.44 | koen | file and file-native needed to match |
| 12:40.53 | koen | and somethings file-on-host as well |
| 12:46.45 | XorA | and the other universal constant is need a faster machine :-) |
| 13:12.25 | *** join/#oe ao2 (~ao2@host220-79-dynamic.57-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 13:24.08 | *** join/#oe ant_home (~andrea@host204-1-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 13:54.14 | *** join/#oe ao2 (~ao2@host119-141-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 13:57.29 | *** join/#oe sr105 (~sr105@65349hfc19.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 14:00.00 | *** join/#oe hillct (~hillct@cpe-071-070-219-043.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 14:02.34 | *** join/#oe florian (~fuchs@Maemo/community/contributor/florian) |
| 14:04.57 | *** join/#oe dos1 (~dos@unaffiliated/dos1) |
| 14:10.20 | Crofton | nerdboy, nope |
| 14:36.30 | *** join/#oe kristoffer (~kristoffe@c-e882e253.171-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 14:52.04 | *** join/#oe hillct (~hillct@cpe-071-070-219-043.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 14:59.49 | *** join/#oe Vutral (~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral) |
| 15:14.44 | *** join/#oe Leatherface_ (~leatherfa@2001:470:dd7d:0:7479:2535:f45b:6b47) |
| 15:21.24 | *** join/#oe Jafura (~Jean-Fran@host-213-213-229-139.brutele.be) |
| 16:06.46 | *** join/#oe Vutral (~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral) |
| 16:06.51 | *** join/#oe Jafura (~Jean-Fran@host-213-213-229-139.brutele.be) |
| 16:38.02 | *** join/#oe balkamos (balkamos@unaffiliated/motley) |
| 16:38.02 | *** join/#oe tbr (dm8tbr@cl-790.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) |
| 16:51.59 | nerdboy | So, after SCaLE it was Spanky's SIM talk that stuck in my head, and after ELC it's GNU Radio... |
| 16:52.21 | nerdboy | apparently i have not control over that stuff |
| 16:52.31 | nerdboy | s/not/no/ |
| 16:52.59 | nerdboy | shakes his fist at Crofton |
| 17:04.18 | *** join/#oe Crofton (~balister@216.9.110.1) |
| 17:05.33 | *** join/#oe balister_ (~balister@pool-71-171-37-254.ronkva.east.verizon.net) |
| 17:07.33 | XorA | aaaargh, why is my xserver-xf86-config_0.1.bbappend busted :-( |
| 17:08.17 | nerdboy | great, the whole performance was wasted... |
| 17:10.59 | *** join/#oe ao2 (~ao2@host13-192-dynamic.3-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 17:26.13 | XorA | blames Crofton |
| 17:34.49 | *** join/#oe contempt (contempt@unaffiliated/contempt) |
| 17:37.52 | XorA | my machine override seems to fail in just one directory |
| 17:52.17 | *** join/#oe sr105 (~sr105@65349hfc19.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 17:52.27 | *** join/#oe florian (~fuchs@Maemo/community/contributor/florian) |
| 17:53.34 | *** part/#oe nerdboy (~sarnold@gentoo/developer/nerdboy) |
| 17:53.35 | *** join/#oe nerdboy (~sarnold@gentoo/developer/nerdboy) |
| 17:56.45 | XorA | koen: why is FILESEXTRAPATHS_prepend := "${THISDIR}/${PN}:" not functional in meta-exynos? |
| 17:58.46 | nerdboy | huh? |
| 17:58.47 | XorA | beginning to piss me off because I know the .bbappend is being parsed as if I do do_install_append_machine() { exit -255} that gets added to do_install |
| 17:59.30 | nerdboy | try ${THISDIR}/${PN}/${MACHINE}: maybe |
| 17:59.53 | XorA | machine overides should be handled by the core |
| 18:00.07 | nerdboy | i ain't the expert |
| 18:00.26 | nerdboy | that just seems to happen to me too sometimes |
| 18:00.57 | nerdboy | sometimes even when that's what i want... |
| 18:01.16 | *** join/#oe Vutral (~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral) |
| 18:01.38 | *** join/#oe kroon (~kroon@89-253-118-72.customers.ownit.se) |
| 18:13.21 | XorA | ok one of the BSP layers is broken |
| 18:14.36 | nerdboy | now that you mention it, meta-bealeboard seems a little different than the others too |
| 18:14.55 | nerdboy | *seems to act |
| 18:32.48 | XorA | and the winner seems to be meta-raspberrypi |
| 18:32.53 | XorA | typical |
| 18:36.20 | XorA | or not |
| 18:36.33 | XorA | I wonder if we I am hitting some maximum variable length issue |
| 18:38.13 | kergoth | did you examine FILESPATH to see exactly what it ends up being? bitbake -e will even show you what parts of the variable came from where due to the variable tracking patches |
| 18:38.19 | kergoth | FILESPATH and FILESEXTRAPATHS both, actually |
| 18:38.26 | XorA | kergoth: yes, I think its truncated by something |
| 18:50.03 | nerdboy | XorA: which one? |
| 18:50.13 | nerdboy | the primary one? |
| 18:50.54 | nerdboy | 's fork seems fine |
| 18:51.14 | nerdboy | but i haven't tried reverting to upstream lately... |
| 18:57.09 | XorA | it just seems deleting enough layers works |
| 18:57.15 | XorA | doesnt seem to matter which ones |
| 19:07.37 | *** join/#oe balkamos (balkamos@unaffiliated/motley) |
| 19:07.37 | *** join/#oe tbr (dm8tbr@cl-790.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) |
| 19:14.09 | khem__ | XorA: is any layer resetting the FILESPATH ? |
| 19:14.53 | XorA | khem: possibly, its gonna take a while to track down though |
| 19:15.04 | khem | which recipe is it ? |
| 19:15.22 | XorA | xserver-xf86-config_0.1.bb |
| 19:15.23 | khem | you can use layers.openembedded.org to track is down quickly |
| 19:15.42 | XorA | raspberrypi is doing some suspicious stuff in there |
| 19:15.49 | khem | http://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/recipe/454/ |
| 19:15.56 | khem | see how many bbappends it has :) |
| 19:16.38 | nerdboy | heh |
| 19:16.59 | XorA | thats because its essential to override it to get working Xorg on arm :-( |
| 19:17.04 | XorA | stupid fbdev driver |
| 19:17.18 | nerdboy | just a couple... |
| 19:17.36 | XorA | http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-raspberrypi/tree/recipes-graphics/xorg-xserver/xserver-xf86-config_0.1.bbappend?h=daisy |
| 19:17.41 | XorA | very suspicious of this |
| 19:17.50 | khem | see https://github.com/linux-sunxi/meta-sunxi/blob/master/recipes-graphics/xorg-xserver/xserver-xf86-config_0.1.bbappend |
| 19:17.56 | khem | thats your problem |
| 19:18.15 | khem | we should have avoided that layer in Angstrom |
| 19:18.29 | XorA | I thought I had knocked out that layer and still had the issue :-( |
| 19:18.54 | khem | meta-rpi is ok here for once |
| 19:19.29 | khem | what machine are you targetting |
| 19:19.36 | XorA | chromebook-snow |
| 19:19.43 | khem | OK |
| 19:20.03 | khem | probably a new layer |
| 19:20.33 | XorA | https://github.com/slimlogic/meta-exynos/commits/master |
| 19:23.30 | nerdboy | khem: if you have any specific rpi issues, please let me know |
| 19:23.58 | khem | I dont have the issue itself |
| 19:24.13 | nerdboy | the upstream guys have taken a few bits from my pull requests in the past, so i can always try that again... |
| 19:32.33 | *** join/#oe balkamos (balkamos@unaffiliated/motley) |
| 19:32.33 | *** join/#oe tbr (dm8tbr@cl-790.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) |
| 19:48.08 | *** join/#oe jfkelly (~quassel@c-76-25-132-15.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 19:54.04 | *** join/#oe balkamos (balkamos@unaffiliated/motley) |
| 19:54.04 | *** join/#oe tbr (dm8tbr@cl-790.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) |
| 20:01.06 | nerdboy | soccer game? |
| 20:10.10 | *** join/#oe ensc|w (~ensc@fedora/ensc) |
| 20:15.52 | *** join/#oe ka6sox-home (~ka6sox@nasadmin/ka6sox) |
| 20:17.37 | nerdboy | quietly pages Tim Orling just in case... |
| 20:18.37 | *** join/#oe DJWillis (~djwillis@cpc2-trow6-2-0-cust204.aztw.cable.virginm.net) |
| 20:23.35 | *** join/#oe Shawn286 (~Shawn@unaffiliated/shawn156) |
| 20:26.41 | *** join/#oe balkamos (balkamos@unaffiliated/motley) |
| 21:27.56 | nerdboy | hmm, i don't see anything on the mailing list subscribe page |
| 21:28.30 | nerdboy | is the a filter/delay in oe-core for discussion stuff or is it just me? |
| 21:30.13 | nerdboy | didn't think i needed to add the [oe-core] thing myself... |
| 21:30.24 | *** join/#oe ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 21:30.24 | *** mode/#oe [+o ChanServ] by sendak.freenode.net |
| 21:32.27 | kergoth | you don't need to add [oe-core] |
| 21:33.11 | nerdboy | how long should it take to come back to me? typically... |
| 21:33.50 | nerdboy | the patch process is different, i'm just thinking about discussion stuff |
| 21:35.37 | kergoth | if you're using gmail, how long is indefinitely. it does de-duplication implicitly, so you'll never see the version of your mail that hit the list |
| 21:39.18 | nerdboy | o.O |
| 21:39.37 | nerdboy | not used to that in the Olden Days |
| 21:39.56 | nerdboy | heh, the list interface is still the same... |
| 21:52.24 | nerdboy | kergoth: hopefully that means you saw the open hardware summit thing? |
| 21:53.07 | kergoth | i saw an email about it, yeah |
| 21:53.40 | nerdboy | k |
| 21:54.34 | nerdboy | i wouldn't mind coauthoring an abstract if anyone else is interested... |
| 21:56.15 | *** join/#oe khem` (~khem@c-98-207-177-218.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 21:57.46 | koen | XorA: := is immediate expansion, it breaks a lot of things if one of more layers use it |
| 21:58.03 | koen | XorA: most configs only have one BSP layer, so it works |
| 21:58.08 | koen | with >1, it breaks |
| 22:02.47 | XorA | koen: thats going to cause us endless pain :-( |
| 22:03.11 | XorA | although crappy arm kernels will also cause us endless pain :( |
| 22:04.39 | koen | I know |
| 22:04.48 | koen | everything I see a BSP with that bug I send a patch |
| 22:04.57 | koen | most of them go "What!?!?" |
| 22:05.10 | XorA | ooops, I better fix meta-exynos then |
| 22:05.49 | koen | XorA: note that a single bsp doign := will break others |
| 22:05.58 | koen | it depends on layering order and priority |
| 22:06.20 | koen | so even if you fix your BSP, it might still not work due to others |
| 22:06.20 | XorA | and they pretty much universally all do it |
| 22:06.33 | koen | which makes patches getting into BSP even more diffictult |
| 22:07.40 | XorA | BBLAYER_${MACHINE} = ??? |
| 22:08.09 | kergoth | using := where? |
| 22:08.24 | koen | kergoth: config bbappends |
| 22:08.27 | koen | like the xorg configs |
| 22:09.01 | koen | using := in a bbappends is a bad idea anyway, but in config bbappends where >1 layers will have it is a nightmare |
| 22:09.47 | koen | A few angstrom releases ago I inserted a config bbappend to set xorg to xf86-video-fbdev |
| 22:09.56 | koen | so I could get working video on most of them |
| 22:10.00 | koen | slow, but working |
| 22:10.42 | koen | as far as I know angstrom is the only public config that uses layers heavily |
| 22:10.57 | koen | all other configs I seen chicken out :( |
| 22:10.58 | kergoth | ugh. https://github.com/kergoth/oe-test-scripts/blob/master/leaky-layer-tests may be of use |
| 22:11.22 | XorA | installs Soldier of Fortune instead |
| 22:11.38 | koen | ooooh |
| 22:11.43 | koen | I liked that game |
| 22:11.53 | koen | isn't that 10 years old? |
| 22:12.00 | XorA | yes |
| 22:12.10 | XorA | it may not actually run on Windows 8 :-( |
| 22:12.28 | koen | kergoth: it mentions poky, I can't use that, it goes against my religious beliefs |
| 22:12.38 | kergoth | chuckles |
| 22:12.46 | koen | XorA: blow off some body parts with the desert eagle |
| 22:13.22 | XorA | koen: sniper rifling peoples legs off while on patrol :-) |
| 22:13.36 | koen | 14 years old |
| 22:14.01 | koen | "Soldier of Fortune was best known for its graphic depictions of firearms dismembering the human body. " |
| 22:14.21 | XorA | the soldiers used to hop around if you shot out their knees |
| 22:14.38 | nerdboy | kergoth: thanks, i'll send the meta-python email a bit later |
| 22:14.56 | koen | XorA: I've been playing omf 2097 lately |
| 22:15.39 | XorA | as in wipeout? |
| 22:17.02 | XorA | Intel HD GFX ideal for retro OpenGL games :-) |
| 22:17.07 | koen | XorA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Must_Fall:_2097 |
| 22:17.10 | koen | dosbox :) |
| 22:17.25 | koen | 20 years old |
| 22:18.16 | XorA | 1994 I was playing Amiga games |
| 22:18.46 | koen | I grew up with dos and os/2 |
| 22:18.51 | koen | (yes, that explains a lot) |
| 22:19.59 | nerdboy | was beta tester for warp |
| 22:20.08 | nerdboy | 'nuff said |
| 22:21.11 | koen | I also had tokenring at home |
| 22:21.32 | nerdboy | you want my tokenring printer card? |
| 22:21.53 | kergoth | wow, one must fall, i'd forgotten about that game. i remebmer playing it back in the day |
| 22:22.02 | kergoth | pulls it down and runs it in dosbox/boxer |
| 22:22.15 | nerdboy | wasn't *that* bad |
| 22:22.32 | nerdboy | just ran coax for my first dialup network... |
| 22:22.59 | nerdboy | looks for a terminator |
| 22:25.26 | XorA | wonders where his copy of kingpin is |
| 22:27.10 | kergoth | I've been slowly but surely going through every game I own, steam, GOG, or otherwise, including many classic games, and getting them all to run on the mac via boxer (dosbox), wine, etc. Slow going, but >600 are working now :) |
| 22:31.17 | nerdboy | nice get-out-of-the-house hobby, dude... |
| 22:31.56 | nerdboy | i was kinda hoping other people got out more than i do lately... |
| 22:36.40 | XorA | bah too many friendly casualties :-) |
| 22:36.56 | *** join/#oe tbr (dm8tbr@cl-790.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) |
| 22:51.09 | nerdboy | you could always switch to real battle-bots... |
| 22:55.32 | XorA | loads all his most violent games in preperation for Linaro sprints |
| 23:01.52 | nerdboy | maybe try gokarts with JaMa|Off |
| 23:10.32 | *** join/#oe hillct (~hillct@cpe-071-070-219-043.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 23:22.13 | XorA | hazzah heretic |
| 23:23.03 | ka6sox-home | heretic? |
| 23:24.31 | *** join/#oe DJW|Home (~djwillis@cpc2-trow6-2-0-cust204.aztw.cable.virginm.net) |
| 23:28.45 | XorA | ka6sox-home: the old ID software game |
| 23:29.05 | ka6sox-home | oh rightÂ…been too long |
| 23:40.15 | nerdboy | wow, i didn't think you'd mention anything i actually played... |
| 23:40.38 | XorA | hehe, going old school tonight |
| 23:41.24 | kergoth | i remember playing the shit out of hexen 2 in coop. good stuff. both heretic and hexen have newer engines available, some with improved texture packs |
| 23:41.54 | kergoth | has a mac wrapper for heretic which runs it under doomsday with the high resolution texture pack |
| 23:42.05 | kergoth | classic stuff |
| 23:42.24 | XorA | yes, running doomsday for Doom1/2/Hexen/Heretic |
| 23:42.46 | kergoth | doomsday works great, it's come a long way from how it was originally |
| 23:44.16 | nerdboy | i used to love that star trek mod... |
| 23:48.23 | XorA | my fave was the aliens mod |
| 23:48.28 | XorA | with face huggers |
| 23:49.48 | nerdboy | also subscribed to alt-wesley-crusher-die-die-die |
| 23:50.26 | nerdboy | speaking of usenet that might be the only group i remember.. |
| 23:50.39 | XorA | crap going to need dosbox for some of this heretic stuff |
| 23:57.44 | XorA | ah internet backup system solved the issue for me |