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07:42.26Cyricgoddmorning guys... i am still tring to compile the meta-qt5-toolchain... now i got a FETCH error on qt5system
07:42.31CyricERROR: Fetcher failure: Unable to find revision aa651c73bf7bc57c1b6b1bfcfa9afe901884a102 in branch stable even from upstream
07:43.10Cyricthe recepi generating this error is /meta-qt5/recipes-qt/qt5/qtsystems_git.bb, do_fetch) failed with exit code '1'
07:44.19Cyricbut this recepy looks really strange.. there is nothing inside!
07:44.26Cyricjust this 4 lines
07:44.30Cyricrequire qt5-git.inc
07:44.30Cyricrequire ${PN}.inc
07:44.30Cyric# qtsystems wasn't released yet, last tag before this SRCREV is 5.0.0-beta1
07:44.30Cyric# qt5-git PV is only to indicate that this recipe is compatible with qt5 5.2.1
07:44.30CyricSRCREV = "aa651c73bf7bc57c1b6b1bfcfa9afe901884a102"
07:44.59Cyricwhat means that is not been released yet?
07:45.39rob_wwell it means that this SRCREV was not found in the stable branch ,yet ?
07:46.02Cyricok
07:46.13Cyrichow can i switch to another branch?
07:46.37Cyricin qt3d i had to switch from master to dev
07:46.41rob_wi gues inside qt5-git.inc must the be branch settings .. close to SRC_URI
07:47.15Cyricis this going to affect also other packages?
07:47.17Cyricok ok
07:47.19Cyrici try
07:48.47Cyricthanks rob_w
07:48.51rob_wnp
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08:48.20bluelightningmorning all
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09:06.50woglindehi bluelightning
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09:32.27Cyrichi rob_w: now i got this error
09:32.45CyricCollected errors:
09:32.45Cyric* satisfy_dependencies_for: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for packagegroup-qt5-toolchain-target:
09:32.45Cyric* qttools-plugins *
09:32.45Cyric* opkg_install_cmd: Cannot install package packagegroup-qt5-toolchain-target.
09:33.42Cyrictogether with a huge list of perl-dev: unsatisfied recommendation for
09:42.15rob_wqttools-plugins  is the package ur missing .. either install it before or actually update your repo which should then make our opkg pull dependencies
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10:24.52Cyricrob_w: unfortunatly is not working.. i added qttools-plugin in build/local.conf  -->IMAGE_INSTALL_append = "qtbase qttools qtbase-fonts qttools-plugins ... "
10:25.37Cyricand i tried to rebuild the complete image with bitbake -k angstrom-lxde-image
10:26.35Cyricand it fails when when it do_rootfs : * opkg_install_cmd: Cannot install package qttools-plugins.
10:26.36CyricERROR: Function failed: do_rootfs
10:31.15rob_wthen qttools-plugins is not set as build dependency ,, try to build it via bitbake qttools-plugin and see what happens
10:31.40bluelightningI suspect that is not the problem
10:32.54rob_wmy comments are just from 10000ft high .. guess qt5 has its own caveeggs
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10:37.24Cyricrob_w: i think you were right
10:37.35Cyricit says ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'qttools-plugin'
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10:48.49rob_wscores
10:49.43rob_walso it could well be a obsolete dependency .. as i said, i am 10000ft above qt5
10:50.06rob_wmy primitive mind would force the install and see it works ;-)
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10:55.09Cyricrob_w: but i already have the option -k
10:57.22Cyricis with that that i force the install?
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11:03.15rob_wtry to investigate what qttools-plugin does, where it went and why it is missing .. thats a basic investigation and will bring you closer to the whole package/dependency thing inside oe
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16:39.56realBigfootIs it possible to verify if a flag is enabled on PKGCONFIG (EXTRA_OECONF) ? If it is enabled I want to take an action
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18:38.19T0mWback in the 'dark ages' of openEmbedded, the mercurial repo used to change on an hourly basis, pulls from the repo were not to be done by the faint-hearted.  Stuff that worked, suddenly broke.
18:38.31T0mWmy question is, how "stable" is 'master'?
18:39.24Crofton|workdepends on the point in the release cycle
18:39.27kergothwell, yocto 1.8 *just* released, so at the moment master isn't far from the release
18:39.30kergothbut yeah, it varies
18:39.40Crofton|worksince there was just a release, master sucks now
18:39.53Crofton|worksince people are adding lots of stuff
18:40.16Crofton|workin a few months, it ill stabilize as new stuff isn't accepted and we fix bugs :)
18:40.48Crofton|workalso, it was a monotone repo :)
18:41.00kergothif you want something recent and stable, best to use fido / 1.8
18:41.05Crofton|work+1
18:41.45kergoththat reminds me, i should start working through my push/submission backlog now that it's released and join the post-release madness
18:41.52kergoth:)
18:42.03Crofton|workyep
18:42.26T0mWMoving my product forward, I need to start doing a lot of X programming, probably with Athena.  Now, the "fido", isn't that stripped of much of the OE functionality?  E.g. if I want it "all" I should bake recipes on OE instead of pokey/Yocto?
18:42.29JaMaT0mW: mercurial? do you mean monotone?
18:42.43T0mWoh, yeah, forgot the name. heh
18:43.00Crofton|workPoky is oe-core + meta-yocto :)
18:43.01kergoththat really doesn't maek a great deal of sense
18:43.10kergothyeah, poky is oe-core+meta-yocto+bitbake
18:43.13Crofton|workand maybe a bsp
18:43.19Crofton|workhas never built poky
18:43.21kergothmeta-oe can be added on whether you're using meta-yocto and the poky distro or not
18:43.36JaMaT0mW: there is libXaw recipe already, I gave you link in #yocto
18:43.44kergothokay, i really want TOPDIR exported into the devshell environment
18:43.53kergothquite often i want to copy something back to the build directory
18:43.57kergothand i'm always having to do it manually
18:46.30T0mWJama, but that exists in OE (along with other dependant recipes), but not in Yocto Daisy.  So, I'm about to pull the trigger on killing off Yocto and moving back into OE (simply due to the breadth of recipes).
18:46.47kergoththat really doesn't make any sense
18:46.59kergothagain, yocto includes poky, which is just an integration of oe-core, meta-yocto, and bitbake
18:47.07kergoththere's no more recipes in poky than in those separate components, or vice versa
18:47.16kergothit sounds like you're comparing two different branches, or something
18:47.28T0mWkergoth: right, but its' reduced form of OE.  A derivative.
18:47.31kergothwrong
18:47.36T0mWwhat?
18:47.47kergothpoky is a repository that includes *precisely* the current content of oe-core, meta-yocto, and bitbake
18:47.58kergothnothing is removed, that's all it is
18:48.18T0mWI thought poky was dead and replaced by Yocto?
18:48.22kergothyou can go do a build with bitbake and oe-core separately, but you aren't magically getting anything new
18:48.33kergothno, yocto is an umbrella projct which includes poky as its reference distribution and build platform
18:48.41T0mWAH!
18:49.04kergothoe-core in oe and oe-core in poky are exactly the same, which is *why* we moved to oe-core in the first place
18:49.07kergotheveryone shares the same baseline
18:49.08T0mWkergoth: ok, I'm going to pull from poky then and take another look.  My mistake.
18:49.34kergothwhether you use poky or the individual components is largely a matter of personal preference, and whether you're going to make use of the poky distro or not
18:49.41T0mWkergoth: yeah, you wanted a stable releasing which was poky, I thought that the poky was renamed to Yocto.
18:50.03T0mWkergoth: cool, thanks ken.
18:50.06kergothyou can check out the yocto 1.8 branch of oe-core separately, or the 1.8 branch of poky, the content will be the same
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18:50.55kergothwhich is also true for daisy, so it sounds like you were comparing daisy content to master contnet, or daisy content to oe-classic, which is an apples and oranges comparison
18:51.15kergothken?
18:51.31kergothCrofton|work: out of curiosity, what setup scripts do you use in your setup, the stock oe-core ones?
18:51.46T0mWMaybe, but Yocto does not have the 'recipes-graphics/xorg-lib/libxaw_1.0.10.bb' recipe
18:51.59T0mWmeta-oe does
18:52.04kergothagain
18:52.10kergothyou can add meta-oe to a poky setup or a standalone oe setup
18:52.13kergothas i said earlier
18:52.17kergothas long as the branches line up
18:52.25T0mWhmm, ok
18:52.42Crofton|workFor stable work I use repo
18:52.46kergothwhich is the whole point of the layering mechanism, you can add arbitrary layers to any oe-core based configuration
18:52.47kergothsee http://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/
18:52.53Crofton|workand stole a readme from gumstix
18:52.57kergothmeta-oe is just another layer
18:52.59kergothCrofton|work: ah, cool
18:53.06Crofton|worksucks for dev
18:53.17Crofton|workfor that I jsut assemble stuff by hand
18:53.36Crofton|workbut I tell customers to use repo, so I ahve a good idea what they are building
18:53.45Crofton|workand can dupe my setup fairly accurately
18:54.15kergothI use repo for repository management for day to day development, not too bad as long as the manifest in question tracks branches, not specific commits, and once i set up a 'new project' script that automatically runs 'repo start —all projectname' so nothing is ever sitting on a floating checkout
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19:00.25T0mWcan I stay with sysv-init (no systemd) with the fido release?
19:01.09Crofton|workyes
19:02.15kergothi *think* sysvinit is still default for distroless and poky, at least it was last time i checked
19:02.18kergothhm
19:02.40Crofton|workyeah
19:03.32T0mWexcellent!
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