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| 05:04.00 | namra | greetings |
| 05:04.19 | namra | someone else not able to build classpath-native from the meta-layer? |
| 05:04.41 | namra | cacao-native segfaults during the configuration step |
| 05:05.13 | namra | http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2015-June/102007.html |
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| 10:34.20 | rburton | did the hangout get abandoned? |
| 10:34.51 | Crofton | rburton, I just asked Jefro to check it |
| 10:37.29 | rburton | i just get "waiting for people to join" |
| 10:38.06 | Crofton | Jefro, |
| 10:38.19 | Crofton | there were two emails |
| 10:39.32 | Crofton | so two urls |
| 10:40.33 | rburton | just tried the other, same result |
| 10:41.55 | rburton | oh a third |
| 10:42.11 | rburton | works! |
| 10:42.25 | Crofton | rofl |
| 10:42.25 | rburton | oh god its terrible |
| 10:42.30 | Crofton | crap |
| 10:42.33 | Crofton | how bad? |
| 10:42.44 | rburton | i think that's koen talking |
| 10:42.58 | rburton | can't understand any voices |
| 10:43.23 | Crofton | hmm, can we raise Jefro ? |
| 10:43.31 | Crofton | damn he may be takin gnotes |
| 10:43.40 | Crofton | well that is a good thinig |
| 10:43.44 | rburton | yeah exactly |
| 10:44.00 | rburton | "right now they squark squark oe-core" |
| 10:44.40 | Crofton | We really need to buy a good camera/mike for these things |
| 10:45.07 | rburton | yes, but tbh i'm blaming uplink too, the video is stuttering too |
| 10:45.07 | Crofton | denix, was the thumbs up for the eV to buy a cam/mike? |
| 10:45.18 | Crofton | try turning video off |
| 10:45.30 | Crofton | also, I could ask about stopping the tx video |
| 10:46.08 | rburton | hm how to turn off video |
| 10:46.29 | denix | Crofton: no, code of conduct |
| 10:46.58 | Crofton | ok |
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| 11:07.37 | rburton | i find the status reports very useful as it reminds people when the freeze dates are! |
| 11:08.27 | Crofton | heh |
| 11:10.20 | Crofton | people that skim by subject line have a bad habit of skipping by subject line |
| 11:11.23 | LetoThe2nd | the trick is to just not read any mailing lists at all! |
| 11:12.38 | Crofton | I was likelu the person that led to more content in the reports so I try to read them |
| 11:13.01 | LetoThe2nd | yeah sometimes dogfooding is not bad. |
| 11:13.10 | Crofton | yeah |
| 11:13.26 | Crofton | What concerns me is people miss things buried in them |
| 11:13.28 | ndec | hmm. what are these reports? i think i don't get them.. |
| 11:13.43 | Crofton | ndec, I'll forward one |
| 11:13.48 | LetoThe2nd | ndec: welcome to my world, i don't get anything ;-) |
| 11:15.04 | LetoThe2nd | Crofton: BTW, is there a tip jar or donating thing for outsiders concerning the meetup and beverages? |
| 11:15.19 | Crofton | Thank Jefro |
| 11:15.26 | LetoThe2nd | Did that. |
| 11:16.03 | Crofton | also, I need to get really serious about begging for money so we do not need to hit up Jefro every time |
| 11:16.11 | ndec | Crofton: thanks.. actually i had them.. |
| 11:16.16 | Crofton | :) |
| 11:18.22 | LetoThe2nd | Crofton: BTW we kind of have agreed to postponing my formal joining until the legal transition is over |
| 11:18.39 | Crofton | heh |
| 11:19.10 | LetoThe2nd | -> "its easier" |
| 11:20.45 | rburton | kergoth: "About to submit a patch series for this which also adds the bits to oe-selftest to pull tests from layers." in #7625 - did you do that? was it merged? can't spot it. |
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| 11:28.13 | Crofton | I have two open bugs in YP bugzilla |
| 11:28.52 | Crofton | one is about a year old, that bum fray won't fix it :) |
| 11:29.21 | rburton | disappointed that you've only two, you're such a moaner normally |
| 11:29.34 | rburton | (yay not being in dublin) |
| 11:32.08 | Crofton | those are open |
| 11:32.13 | Crofton | others are closed |
| 11:32.15 | Crofton | :) |
| 11:32.38 | Crofton | I addressed one that was in a non "yocto" layer |
| 11:32.51 | Crofton | almost before the triage guy closed it :) |
| 11:33.38 | rburton | something to raise - do any non-yocto layers want to use yocto bugzilla, or is the current practise of generally closing and saying "mail the list" still desired? |
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| 11:34.10 | rburton | ie i closed a meta-java bug yesterday in the triage yesterday doing exactly that |
| 11:34.41 | LetoThe2nd | rburton: RP is just kind of explaining that practise and the reasons behind it |
| 11:35.03 | rburton | yeah i can just about make out enough to know you're talking about bugs :) |
| 11:35.17 | LetoThe2nd | rburton: some are even bügs. |
| 11:36.46 | ndec | rburton: is is possible to use BZ for non yocto layers? how does that work? |
| 11:37.04 | rburton | there's a Layers component |
| 11:37.08 | ndec | i can get a 'component' created, such that I get assigned bugs directly? |
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| 11:37.44 | rburton | looks to know exactly |
| 11:38.19 | rburton | Layers product, you can get a new Component added |
| 11:38.29 | rburton | already has meta-cgl meta-security baryon dlna |
| 11:39.06 | rburton | lets rename to meta-poky now for 2.0!! |
| 11:42.20 | Crofton | rburton, if there is man power I would push the YP bugzilla that way |
| 11:42.42 | Crofton | ie layers really provide the manpower to fix bus |
| 11:43.01 | LetoThe2nd | Crofton: greybus? |
| 11:43.28 | Crofton | bugs :) |
| 11:43.36 | rburton | *personally* i'd say if layer maintainers want to use yp bugzilla, just ask for a new component. triage team can ignore them if desired. |
| 11:44.17 | ndec | yes, that was my point. i wouldn't expect the YP to do anything with these bugs. |
| 11:44.48 | rburton | aye. |
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| 11:47.03 | LetoThe2nd | ndec: the way i understood it is that those bugs would still have a negative effect on them due to being judged on the numbers in bugzilla |
| 11:47.13 | LetoThe2nd | ndec: y'know, funny company qa rules |
| 11:47.24 | ndec | them? |
| 11:47.33 | LetoThe2nd | ndec: i think RP put it that way |
| 11:48.01 | rburton | LetoThe2nd: hmm, if external layers are all in the Layers product, we can filter that out of queries |
| 11:48.47 | LetoThe2nd | rburton: sure, technically thats certainly possible. depends on the way the QA guys are set on looking at the bugzilla |
| 11:48.50 | ndec | hmm.. there is a linaro components in Layers.. |
| 11:49.12 | ndec | with Zarro bugs ;-) |
| 11:49.13 | LetoThe2nd | ndec: i really just misread that as "there's a linaro component in lawyers" |
| 11:49.24 | ndec | hehe |
| 11:49.33 | rburton | success! |
| 11:49.44 | ndec | yeah! |
| 11:49.45 | LetoThe2nd | rburton: commence headbanging, then |
| 11:50.48 | Crofton | https://www.flickr.com/photos/32615155@N00/4093205855/in/dateposted-public/ |
| 11:51.04 | Crofton | precedent for drinking beer at OEDEM |
| 11:52.16 | LetoThe2nd | ndec: btw, see https://github.com/twoerner/oe-layerindex-config |
| 11:52.26 | LetoThe2nd | ndec: might also fit your current needs |
| 11:52.31 | LetoThe2nd | (je just told me) |
| 11:52.38 | ndec | yeah. he had told me too |
| 11:52.42 | LetoThe2nd | ah |
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| 11:57.56 | Crofton | rburton, my allmybugs search is 18 |
| 11:58.33 | Crofton | best comment from RP on this one: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6316 |
| 11:58.44 | Crofton | I would have thought it was really simple, bt it wasn't |
| 11:59.19 | rburton | :) |
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| 12:20.29 | spaszPL | Hello everybody. |
| 12:21.34 | spaszPL | One question connected with bluez4. Bluez4 installs scripts in /usr/lib/bluez4/test/. This scripts need python, and also python gobject and pytgtk. |
| 12:22.12 | spaszPL | On my embedded system i don't use x11, so we i want to bake pygtk it brokes and says that there is missing cairo-xlib. |
| 12:22.34 | spaszPL | I cannot build cairo-xlib without libx11 and x11 DISTRO_FEATURE. |
| 12:23.05 | spaszPL | Is there any other way to solve it and not add x11 DISTRO_FEATURE. |
| 12:23.32 | spaszPL | ? |
| 12:25.58 | Tarnyko_away | spaszPL: hi, I think pygtk pulls gtk+2, which always pulls x11 under Linux |
| 12:27.01 | Tarnyko | spaszPL: newest pygobject, however, pulls gtk+3 which also supports alternate backends such as "wayland" or "broadway" (no x11) |
| 12:27.21 | Tarnyko | spaszPL: so I guess the idea is to get rid of pygtk |
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| 12:40.09 | spaszPL | ok, but i need pygtk because of bluez4 scripts. For example script ./test-device from bluez4 uses mainloop = GObject.MainLoop() |
| 12:40.34 | spaszPL | and as far as i see this GObject.MainLoop comes from pygtk |
| 12:41.04 | spaszPL | Tarnyko, http://www.pygtk.org/pygtk2reference/class-gobjectmainloop.html |
| 12:46.19 | Tarnyko | spaszPL: the code needs to be migrated... pygobject3 (https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/PyGObject) provides GLib.MainLoop (https://developer.gnome.org/pygobject/stable/class-glibmainloop.html), which is the direct equivalent |
| 12:47.06 | Tarnyko | spaszPL: I fear some work is needed to modify the script itself (this is less a #oe problem than a developement one) |
| 12:48.15 | spaszPL | hmm |
| 12:48.31 | spaszPL | so you suggest me to install python3 with gobject ? |
| 12:48.42 | spaszPL | and bluez3 will run? |
| 12:48.53 | spaszPL | * bluez4 scripts. |
| 12:49.54 | Tarnyko | the will if you modify them by migrating their code :) maybe it is already done in bluez5, if this case you could take bluez5 as a reference |
| 12:50.01 | Tarnyko | *they |
| 12:50.57 | spaszPL | Ok i will investigate it. |
| 12:51.13 | spaszPL | thx for your help. |
| 13:01.27 | Crofton | noevilstar |
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| 13:03.00 | rburton | spaszPL: if bluez4 has bits that depend on x11 then you need to make the recipe disable those bits if x11 is disabled |
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| 13:05.26 | Crofton | https://slack-imgs.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia4.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2F8PUuNcwsmSHle%2Fgiphy.gif&width=249&height=140 |
| 13:13.58 | Crofton | Foreign cat: https://www.dropbox.com/home/Public?preview=One20130702-201428-1372810468.avi |
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| 14:32.11 | denix | Yocto Project Dev Day should be renamed to Yocto Project Training Day |
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| 15:06.22 | Crofton | denix, +1 |
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| 15:23.30 | Crofton | FYI: http://free-electrons.com/training/yocto/ |
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| 15:31.03 | LetoThe2nd | Crofton: hows things over there? |
| 15:32.25 | Crofton | good |
| 15:32.48 | Crofton | we are working on advocacy |
| 15:33.46 | LetoThe2nd | hooray! |
| 15:34.03 | LetoThe2nd | is working on a airport gate waiting cider |
| 15:36.31 | LetoThe2nd | Crofton: give everybody a nice thump-thump from me ;) |
| 15:37.13 | georgem | Is there a way to override BBFILES for a layer? I need a few recipes from meta-openstack but I don't want to bring in bbappends for all of these other recipes. |
| 15:40.51 | Crofton | oh shit |
| 15:41.06 | Crofton | hmmmm |
| 15:47.57 | georgem | Seems like that would be pretty common use case. There are a ton of python recipes in meta-openstack that don't exist anywhere else. |
| 15:48.25 | kergoth | sounds like that should be fixed :) |
| 15:51.49 | bluelightning | there's been some disagreement between the maintainer of meta-openstack and meta-python as to where python recipes should live |
| 15:52.24 | georgem | kergoth: You mean come up with a way to bring in certain recipes from a layer or move generally useful recipes out of focused layers? |
| 15:52.32 | georgem | bluelightning: hmm. okay |
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| 16:01.55 | georgem | Maybe I can setup a fake layer that has BBFILES pointing into to the meta-openstack files/directories I want. |
| 16:04.22 | georgem | Hmm. BBMASK might work |
| 16:05.38 | rburton | i always wondered why a bbappend without a corresponding bb is considered fatal |
| 16:06.00 | kergoth | rburton: you make a critical bugfix. update oe-core, and the version you fixed was removed. now your fix isn't applied anymore |
| 16:06.04 | kergoth | and you could silently not know about it |
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| 16:07.33 | rburton | and the moral of the story is to use wildcard appends :) |
| 16:07.38 | rburton | ok, make it an option |
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| 16:09.29 | kergoth | there is an option to make it non-fatal |
| 16:10.04 | kergoth | on a related note, bitbake-layers show-appends will warn if you're appending only the non-preferred recipe and not the preferred recipe, when both recipes exist, iirc |
| 16:10.06 | kergoth | yawns |
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| 17:03.36 | rburton | kergoth: #7625 - did the selftest bit get into oe-core? |
| 17:06.23 | kergoth | yeah |
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| 19:24.14 | rburton | kergoth: what test? sorry, being a bit blind. |
| 19:26.08 | kergoth | oh, misunderstood the question, no I don't think I ever got around to writing self tests to verify that plugins can load from layers |
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