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| 08:34.43 | mckoan | good morning |
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| 11:38.59 | dv_ | <pb_> dv_: wouldn't you be better off just using COMPATIBLE_HOST? |
| 11:39.01 | dv_ | doesnt work |
| 11:39.26 | dv_ | COMPATIBLE_HOST="(armv7*|aarch64*)" -> "incompatible with host arm-poky-linux-gnueabi (not in COMPATIBLE_HOST)" |
| 11:40.43 | dv_ | here's the recipe in question: http://pastebin.com/raw/yfE2k97H |
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| 13:03.19 | mago_ | am I wrong to think RDEPENDS_${PN} is automatically converted into DEPENDS by adding -native to each rdep when you BBCLASSEXTEND+="native" ? |
| 13:13.19 | mago_ | ..but if I set RDEPENDS_${PN} = "x" and build for native, it does not automatically DEPENDS on "x-native". should it? (assuming BBCLASSEXTEND native) |
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| 13:32.33 | joseppc | mago_: if so, wouldn't that automatically convert run-time dependencies into build dependencies for -native packages? |
| 13:35.13 | mago_ | joseppc: yeah, but there are no runtime dependencies for native packages |
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| 13:39.08 | mago_ | joseppc: (so i think that makes sense) |
| 13:39.37 | joseppc | mago_: I didn't know that, it seems strange, why would a package that depends on python on your target wouldn't depend on it for the native environment? |
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| 13:53.36 | chouimat | morning |
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| 14:05.44 | dv_ | can I somehow make certain bbclasses only useable from within the same layer they are in? |
| 14:06.01 | dv_ | I want to backport some bbclass in oe-core master into a jethro branch of a custom layer |
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| 15:59.29 | pb_ | dv_: oh, right, that's a bit irritating. you're right, TARGET_ARCH is not specific enough in this case. |
| 16:00.32 | pb_ | hm, this openembedded-architecture list is a bit of a pain in the neck. |
| 16:00.34 | pb_ | unsubscribes |
| 16:01.14 | JaMa | why? |
| 16:01.51 | pb_ | nobody ever seems to post to that list without cross-posting to a million others, so I find myself getting about six copies of every message. |
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| 16:02.38 | pb_ | which gets a bit tedious after a while :-} |
| 16:02.48 | JaMa | maybe you need better e-mail client :) |
| 16:03.23 | pb_ | heh, yes, probably. |
| 16:05.10 | joshuagl | recommendations? it appears my mail client is full of known security holes :-/ |
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| 16:13.28 | rburton | gmail works for me |
| 16:18.19 | JaMa | mutt works for me, but isn't very good eliminating duplicates |
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| 16:21.19 | rburton | gmail does a sterling job :) |
| 16:22.00 | rburton | kergoth: around? |
| 16:22.31 | kergoth | somewhat. whats up |
| 16:22.49 | rburton | kergoth: do you have any opinion on moving the typed data stuff from oe.data to bitbake? |
| 16:22.59 | rburton | kergoth: maybe exposing it as data.getTyped(name)? |
| 16:23.19 | kergoth | Richard and I are both agreed that we need variable typing in bitbake, absolutely, but not as an afterthought |
| 16:25.33 | dv_ | pb_: so the recipe seems fine? |
| 16:25.44 | dv_ | pb_: I'd send this in to meta-openembedded , in meta-oe/recipes-support |
| 16:25.47 | kergoth | ponders |
| 16:34.17 | rburton | kergoth: agreed |
| 16:40.33 | pb_ | dv_: yeah, I think so |
| 16:40.49 | pb_ | g'day kergoth |
| 16:41.04 | kergoth | rburton: not saying your proposed name is an afterthought, just saying we need to give it careful thought in general :) |
| 16:41.21 | kergoth | hey pb_ , how've you been? |
| 16:42.36 | pb_ | yeah, pretty good. just in the process of moving to a new office. |
| 16:43.02 | rburton | kergoth: my proposal is to think about it a bit more ;) not sure i want to merge the current implementation to bitbake |
| 16:43.53 | kergoth | nods |
| 16:44.36 | kergoth | rburton: I don't think we'd want to use it, but I was surprised at how well this prototype behaved: https://gist.github.com/kergoth/2788410 |
| 16:45.49 | rburton | never knew about .groupdict() |
| 16:45.50 | rburton | that's awesome |
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| 16:46.43 | kergoth | The nice thing about doing something along those lines is we don't have to worry about *when* the conversion from string to type happens, since it was always that type |
| 16:46.49 | kergoth | of course it has other downsides, but.. |
| 16:46.53 | kergoth | food for thought |
| 16:47.39 | kergoth | using flag and conversion has complexities like what if i don't know what type this is, or someone changed the flag without changing the value and broke the conversion on me, or broke my assumption about which type this value is |
| 16:47.51 | kergoth | of course, you could enhance getTyped to accept a type, and choke if that type mismatches the type in the flag |
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| 16:48.14 | kergoth | i.e. getTyped("FOO", "int") -> bb.fatal("expected type 'int' doesn't match defined type 'boolean'") |
| 16:49.01 | rburton | yuck |
| 16:49.59 | kergoth | lots of little corner cases to concern ourselves iwth.. like everything else in this project :P |
| 16:50.50 | kergoth | i'd like to see a new file format proposed, but it'd be tough for bitbake to support that today. right now *how* things are done is tightly intertwined with *what* will be done, which makes it difficult |
| 16:52.55 | kergoth | going back to the earlier mention of email clients, gmail is nice in some ways, but it has two big annoyances for me. 1. mail i send is de-duped when it comes back, so mailing list filters / labeling doesn't fully apply to my own sent mail, and 2. there's no freaking 'reply to list' function |
| 16:53.09 | kergoth | so we're stuck with 'reply', 'reply all', or manually munging the to/cc |
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| 17:17.30 | pb_ | kergoth: yah, I don't think I've ever found an email client that I'm totally happy with |
| 17:18.18 | pb_ | I suppose that thanks to the wonders of free software I ought to be able to create one, but somehow life always seems too short. |
| 17:18.35 | pb_ | and I can't help thinking that, given all the others suck so much, it must be quite a hard problem. |
| 17:18.47 | kergoth | heh, indeed |
| 17:18.51 | kergoth | i expect the same is true of browsers |
| 17:18.57 | kergoth | since they all seem to suck in one way or another |
| 17:19.00 | joshuagl | it's not just the free software mail clients that suck |
| 17:19.05 | kergoth | good point |
| 17:19.28 | pb_ | yeah. well, browsers do seem to have reached a level where all browsers are more or less "good enough" for casual use. |
| 17:19.46 | pb_ | I can use firefox or chrome more or less interchangeably most of the time, and neither of them enrages me particularly. |
| 17:20.21 | kergoth | I rotate between them every 6 months or so when i get fed up with whichever one I'm using :) |
| 17:20.26 | pb_ | but yes, absolutely, when I said I've never found an email client that I like, that wasn't just free ones. I have never found a client that I am happy with at all, free or proprietary. |
| 17:20.37 | kergoth | chrome seems like it's only fast with tiny numbers of tabs now |
| 17:20.39 | kergoth | which makes me sad |
| 17:20.58 | pb_ | yeah. which is odd, since it has a process per tab, you'd think it would scale indefinitely. |
| 17:21.15 | pb_ | I suppose maybe each process is pegged at 100% cpu and it's only fast until the number of tabs exceeds the number of cores in your computer. |
| 17:24.28 | dv_ | JaMa: I have seen this error with latest meta-qt5 master: http://pastebin.com/raw/zs0hXFe0 |
| 17:24.32 | dv_ | does this ring any bells? |
| 17:30.54 | JaMa | dv_: probably needs to skip dev-so now after last changes in oe-core |
| 17:31.33 | dv_ | just saw that there's also jansa/master , perhaps it fixes it too |
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| 17:42.32 | JaMa | dv_: nope |
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| 18:58.15 | chouimat | hi, is there a way to create a tarball that content the delta between 2 images. I mean I have 2 images the standard one and one with extra tools for development and we want to have a tarball with those tools |
| 19:08.42 | paulg_ | mkdir a ; cd a ; tar -xpf standard.tar ; cd ..; mkdir b ; cd b tar -xpf extra.tar ; cd ../a ; for i in `find . ` ; do rm ../b/$i ; done ; cd b ; tar -cpf - . > /tmp/extras.tar |
| 19:09.15 | paulg_ | debugging typos is left as an exercise to the reader. :) |
| 19:14.25 | chouimat | paulg_: it's a way I guess |
| 19:16.02 | paulg_ | chouimat, not sure you can expect anything more than that. |
| 19:17.44 | chouimat | paulg_: I need it to be integrated to the build and something more like when we generate the sdk or toolchain tarball. |
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