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08:39.41Jin^eLDmorning
08:40.38mckoangood morning
08:52.13pwgengodt dag
08:58.19Jin^eLDguys, maybe someone has a hint forme; I have a nand mtd partition and I would like to use a filesystem only on the half of the partition (there are some reasons for that); I know that would probably not be a problem with ext2/3/4,but I need something that supports wear levelling
08:59.03Jin^eLDjffs2 does not seem to have an offset parameter thatwouldallow to put it further back in the partition
08:59.20Jin^eLDand if put in front it will always consume the whole partition to its end
09:00.06Jin^eLDcurrently trying my luck with ubifs but wasnot able to figure itout yet, if anyone has further idea's I'd very much appreciate any input:)
09:00.37Jin^eLDand sorry for being somewhat off topic :P
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09:25.12LetoThe2ndJin^eLD: jffs2 is generally a bad idea for the sizes todays nand memories. here we're going with ubi/ubifs, and i hear lately samsung supplied another flash-suitable fs too.
09:27.13Jin^eLDLetoThe2nd: the partition is quite small, for suchsizes jffs2 is still a valid option,ubifs needsmuch more space
09:27.23Jin^eLDI am talking 15-20mb "small"
09:27.40LetoThe2ndJin^eLD: hm, ok?
09:27.44Jin^eLDbut my problem is to figure out how to use "half of the partition"
09:28.03Jin^eLDbecause I amnot allowed to use all of it,thereis some stuff thats written raw there as well
09:28.07LetoThe2ndJin^eLD: you do not use half of the partition, you make two partitions of half the size :-)
09:28.09Jin^eLDand I can't repartition either
09:28.22LetoThe2ndwell that won't work.
09:28.42Jin^eLDit would with ext.. which I again cant use because of the wear levelling stuff
09:29.02LetoThe2ndlife is full of bad choices.
09:29.16Jin^eLDtell me about it :P
09:29.44LetoThe2ndbut i see nothing that fills the bill of "use only a part of a partition, be flash aware, and space efficient"
09:30.28LetoThe2ndwithout RW you could put a squashfs blob there, that has a known size. leaving out the rest for your magic raw writes.
09:30.37Jin^eLDdoes it help if we drop the "space efficient" part? :) I did not manage to tell ubi to use part ofthe partition either
09:30.53Jin^eLDwell, unfortunately I do need to write there
09:31.06LetoThe2ndwell fs are meant to use partitions. can't blame them for that.
09:31.28Jin^eLDI will probabl end up with using nandwrite,but I really wanted to avoid that
09:31.56Jin^eLDI also tried goingvia loopback andit almostworked with jffs2,but only almost
09:32.32LetoThe2ndheh, emulating mtds is not really a production ready technique
09:32.50Jin^eLDdunno, I found references to 2.6 kernel like modprobe blkmtd device=/dev/loopX
09:32.59Jin^eLDbut couldnot really reproduce that on 4.1
09:33.31LetoThe2ndof course, there are a couple of emulation techniques in kernel. but nothing that i'd use out in the wild, that stuff is more like meant for dev purposes.
09:33.38Jin^eLDhmm
09:33.57Jin^eLDany clue about logfs? I did notyethave the chance to tryit
09:34.18LetoThe2ndno idea about it
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09:35.30LetoThe2ndJin^eLD: samsungs pitch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F2FS
09:36.01Jin^eLDlet me have a look,thanks
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12:32.41Crofton|workWhat is the current thinking on using tarballs from github?
12:37.09rburtonthey're generated from git archive so shouldn't be changing
12:39.13Crofton|workok, I recall there were issues in the past
12:39.49Crofton|workHas the Queen sent the politicians to the tower yet?
12:40.07Crofton|workdownload url for zeromq changed to github
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13:05.22Crofton|workgrr
13:05.31Crofton|workeverything is broken
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13:07.18rburtontell me about it
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13:13.10Crofton|worktrying to check gnuradio on gcc6
13:13.35Crofton|workhad a zmq issue, so tried updated, but it won't build, though maybe updating libsodium would help, but it isn't building
13:13.42Crofton|work0900 and Iam ready to drink
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13:20.55Crofton|workgah
13:21.01Crofton|worksodium is fine
13:22.24Crofton|workand if I use libsoduium for crypto zmq builds
13:35.04Crofton|workand gnuradio still doesn't need to rule #5 on my gcc6isms
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19:07.21khemCrofton|work: share the errors
19:07.59Crofton|workI got down to libsoium can update and zmq builds with libsodium not internal
19:08.13Crofton|workworking on something else, but will go back and sort this out
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19:11.19khemok
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19:13.59Crofton|workha some gcc6ism in gnuradio that I needed to get submitted before stuff gets released :)
19:14.28khemwhat does that mean
19:14.42khemdid gnuradio know of gcc6 beforehand
19:14.58khemor do you mean gcc6 is finding errors which were latent
19:14.59Crofton|workcompile issue
19:15.06Crofton|workin some zmq stuff
19:15.13Crofton|workthat is why I checked version of zmq
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19:18.13khemCrofton|work: does gnuradion work with musl ?
19:18.17khemyou should try that
19:18.29Crofton|workI'll put it on the todo list :)
19:18.49khemthen you can claim it to be posix compliant
19:19.00Crofton|workheh
19:19.17khemmusl is surprisingly very performant
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