IRC log for #oe on 20180131

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00:15.42ant_homekhem, for klibc it must be #define PRIdoff_t "ll"PRId32
00:16.06ant_hometo silence the warning, but actually it is all 64bit
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01:19.22*** topic/#oe is OpenEmbedded Developer Lounge | Web: http://openembedded.org | Repositories: http://git.openembedded.org/ | Primary Repo Mirrors: https://github.com/openembedded | This is not a distro or machine support channel
01:46.01khemll is 64bit so it looks ok to me
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08:01.31LetoThe2ndpidge: heya! can i pester you with a small licensing question? given a layer that contains gplv3-ed software, AFAICS i am required to hand out the layer as necessary build metadata. but am i required to put it under a specific license too?
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08:57.52koenLetoThe2nd: generally metadata is MIT licensed, see e.g. COPYING.MIT in the bigger layers
08:58.40koenLetoThe2nd: the question is what license things like patches are under, you could make the case that oneliners cannot have a license for being too short
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09:01.53XorAkoen: and being obvious, not creative etc etc :-) the vmware defence :-D
09:04.30koenyeah
09:04.41koenyou could make a case for the opposite as well
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09:12.43LetoThe2ndkoen: ok but how does that comply with gplv3?
09:13.51LetoThe2ndi mean, doesn't gplv3 basically require me to hand out the metadata so the thing can be rebuilt? i'm not talking about the patches, their licensing is clear.
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09:17.57koenLetoThe2nd: it's 'tools and scripts', right?
09:18.14koenLetoThe2nd: so technically you just need to include run.do*
09:18.35koenLetoThe2nd: but licensing of scripts and metadata doesn't have much to do with the source license
09:19.29koenLetoThe2nd: gedankenexperiment: build gplv3 stuff with visual studio
09:22.24LetoThe2ndkoen: that experiment does not totally apply, IMHO. its more like. 1) build stuff with VS 2) do some packaging magic in a custom script. now assume that actually using the output of 1) requires some kind of packaging, albeit not necessarily done the way my personal 2) does it.
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09:23.42LetoThe2ndso do i have to provide my personal script 2)? because if i do, putting it under any other license than gplv3 too seems kinda pointless.
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09:27.48LetoThe2ndmind, we're not talking about signing or any form of tivoization. just some kind of processing to change the form the data
09:28.37koenI like MIT, since it's basically a "I don't care"
09:28.59koenif you make your script gplv3, how would that interact with the rest?
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09:29.34LetoThe2ndbecause anybody else who receives the sources actually needs the script too?
09:33.46LetoThe2ndthink of the situation in OE, that a major part of your know how actually is in "how to make things work together". as a company that wants to sell hardware, its only natural for us to think about what know how we actually have to hand out, and what not. sources and patches are totally clear, and will (mostly happily) be provided.
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09:42.50CroftonTizen re-invented: https://fosdem.org/2018/schedule/event/tizen_rt/
09:44.34LetoThe2ndCrofton: \o/
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15:24.52koenpaulbarker: can you add the "opening hours" for the booth to the wiki? I need that to work out when to wake up on sunday :)
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16:18.48ka6soxarmpit, ping?
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16:20.47ka6soxarmpit, if you have a further issue ping myself or novaldex...
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