IRC log for #oe on 20181021

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07:54.15LetoThe2ndLET THE TROLLING BEGIN
07:59.05ndecwe've started a Google Meet conference for those attending remontely the OEDEM link is: https://meet.google.com/vtb-hnnd-ixe. Disclaimer: we don't have a good audio setup in the room. YMMV.
08:00.45LetoThe2nds/YMMV/\m//
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08:16.22frayis there an official trolling channel?
08:16.37LetoThe2ndfray: more official than this vey one.
08:16.38LetoThe2nd?
08:16.45fray:)
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10:13.20tlwoernerbefore the break RP was talking about meta-lib(?) anyone know what that is?
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11:11.23darknightendec: I am trying to join the Google meet.  Is it still running?
11:11.45ndecwe are about to go for lunch in ~20 mins
11:12.04ndecdarknighte: noone has joined so far.. so i don't know how well (or not) it works
11:12.59darknighteHmmm, won't let me join.  Keeps timing out.
11:14.14ndecdarknighte: i am not getting your request to join..
11:15.35ndecdarknighte: can you hear anything?
11:15.38darknightethere we go.  3rd time was the charm.
11:15.53darknighteYes, I can hear what sounds like Behan talking.
11:17.03darknightendec: ^
11:17.20ndecyes, that was him..
11:20.07darknightefunny, I know these guys well enough to recognize the voices.
11:20.22ndecheh
11:20.43darknightewaves to fray denix armpit Crofton RP
11:21.54darknighteOn a US meeting, I think it would be valuable.
11:21.59LetoThe2nddarknighte: Y U NO edinburgh? ;-)
11:22.06darknighteHi koen
11:22.40darknighteLetoThe2nd: nope.  My current employer wasn't willing to fund my travel.
11:23.00LetoThe2nddarknighte: aw :-(
11:23.12darknighteLetoThe2nd: :(
11:23.33darknightekoen is barely allowed at OEDEM/OEDAM.
11:27.19darknighteCrofton: I don't see the problem with having a "hacking" meeting.  We've been saying for years that it would be valuable to have a more project work focused meeting.
11:31.37ndecdarknighte: we will break out for lunch!
11:32.08darknightendec: I heard.  Would you ping me when you return?
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12:12.25JaMawhere is the link to google meet? I'm only reading the meeting minutes
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12:37.52ndecdarknighte: JaMa : https://meet.google.com/vtb-hnnd-ixe. we are back.
12:38.04koentalking about bug triage right now
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13:45.35darknighteJaMa: can you make out what the far speaker is saying?
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13:50.38darknighteI hear timo!
13:51.34darknightetlwoerner: thanks for relaying my question
13:51.42tlwoernerdarknighte: :-)
13:51.49tlwoerneri missed your last one, you removed it
13:51.50tlwoerner?
13:51.55JaManot all, but most people I get
13:52.25JaMafor the rest, reading the minutes in parallel help
13:52.45darknighteJaMa: +1
13:53.27darknightetlwoerner: the convo had moved on.  I was asking about separated debug symbols support.
13:53.53darknighteI seem to recall that we already support that, but was wanting to double check.  I can look on my own though.
13:54.00tlwoernerdarknighte: ok
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14:08.13Crofton|workJaMa, any comments on my pull request for meta-qt5
14:10.13darknightekoen: https://www.openembedded.org/wiki/Layers_FAQ
14:10.41darknightetlwoerner: is there a need for an engineering/arch bodt?
14:11.51tlwoernerdarknighte: okay, i'll ask
14:12.01darknightetlwoerner: thx
14:15.11darknightedenix: :P
14:15.31tlwoernerdarknighte: the thing you highlighted, are you satisfied that it was answered?
14:15.42JaMa@Crofton|work: not yet
14:16.12darknightetlwoerner: not really.
14:16.35darknighteit's a topic fraught with peril.  lots of personal/historical baggage, imho.
14:16.59denixdarknighte: go back to sleep! :)
14:17.46darknighteI thought that koen's suggestion about an OE-centric maintainer role definition for both recipe and layers would be helpful
14:19.25jonmasoncoffee break
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14:44.48darknightetlwoerner: I can barely hear the speaker
14:45.41halsteaddarknighte, He is pretty quiet in person.
14:46.08denixhe's in the other corner of the room
14:46.08darknightehalstead: who is speaking?
14:46.19denixRich Persaud
14:46.21tlwoerneri don't know
14:46.22darknightewould someone capture the highlights into the meeting minutes?
14:47.14denixdarknighte: yes, there are minutes
14:47.24denixdarknighte: check wiki for the link
14:48.04darknightedenix: I'm reading along with them live.  Just didn't see what the last/quiet speaker was saying
14:48.56tlwoernerneat! he went to school in toronto
14:50.29darknightetlwoerner: +1
14:52.44tlwoernerthe OE of blockchain!
14:53.11tlwoernerdarknighte: i wasn't joking
15:02.11tlwoernerthe blockchain of layers
15:09.11tlwoernermeta-blockchain
15:16.12darknightetlwoerner: +1
15:16.35darknighteOne of my first public talks was at Collab Summit and I covered that topic. (NIH)
15:16.48darknighteNot invented here.
15:23.59darknightedon't underestimate the engineers who are under the gun, have no linux knowledge, and are told by their management to build a product on a arch that 'has a linux from the vendor'.  
15:30.16darknightekoen: noooooo!
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15:33.29halsteadRP, updated and enabled:  http://cgit.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/stats/?period=y&ofs=-1
15:33.39darknightefray: honestly, that is probably the most compelling argument for businesses to adopt OE/layering
15:45.25JaMahalstead: thanks
15:46.49JaMain stats since the beginning I took 1st and 10th place :) https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YWFmJwHTcN/
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15:48.59tlwoernerlol
16:05.45ndecdarknighte: JaMa : i am going to disconnect the audio.. i hope you could get a bit of what happened here..
16:05.52darknightendec: thx!
16:06.04ndecnp.
16:06.08darknightendec: tlwoerner: would you ask behan to contact me on hangouts?
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16:07.27JaMandec: yes, thanks
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16:07.51ndecdarknighte: done!
16:08.48darknightendec: thanks for that as well.  fwiw, the audio worked well for listening, but the few times I tried to speak, nobody seemed to hear/respond.
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20:25.09ant_homekhem, hi, world log is almost clear now
20:25.31ant_homeI'll try to fix these few issues
20:26.04ant_home(but not qt* qtm)
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21:55.48khemant_home: yes, thanks for looking at it
21:56.00khemant_home: so far I have trying to make everything build
21:56.19khemnext step will be to enable runtime testing
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