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15:48.20 | prpplague | kergoth: morning crack baby |
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16:05.23 | mindfunk | tsowell: minicom will take a dfl file as a param... |
16:05.47 | mindfunk | tsowell: you might want to modify the nightly.py script to run minicom on com2 |
16:05.57 | mindfunk | tsowell: or make it an option |
16:06.02 | mindfunk | tsowell: in the config |
16:06.14 | tsowell | will do |
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16:10.12 | Philip | anyone here do c++ on omap board? |
16:13.18 | prpplague | Philip: quite a few ppl doing c/c++ on arm platforms with omap specific here |
16:13.34 | prpplague | Philip: most of the ppl here are at work so you make have to wait for a response |
16:16.24 | mindfunk | tsowell: how far have you gotton with the hw agent? |
16:16.43 | tsowell | I sent you an email describing the testing I've done |
16:16.50 | mindfunk | Wingnut: do you still have a lot of open TQ bugs to file? |
16:16.56 | mindfunk | oh... |
16:17.00 | Wingnut | yes |
16:17.12 | mindfunk | Wingnut: pls open them |
16:17.29 | Wingnut | Marco will be sending me the list of bugs I gave him, I'll submit more once I've finished with ClearCase |
16:17.30 | mindfunk | Wingnut: it does effect the management assessment of the tool... |
16:17.58 | mindfunk | Wingnut: send marco email and try to get the list today |
16:18.29 | mindfunk | Wingnut: the negative TQ view is starting to make it's way up the ladder... at least that is my impression |
16:20.18 | mindfunk | tsowell or Wingnut: pls tell chandrika to watch this channel... this is more important since I now have to walk farther to talk to her... and I don't necessarily need to interrupt you guys to do so |
16:20.29 | Wingnut | k |
16:27.20 | prpplague | if any of you guys know an arm developer in the DFW area that might be interested in a BSP job let me know |
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16:31.47 | tsowell_ | mindfunk: the X10 switch is on ttyS1.. |
16:32.33 | mindfunk | tsowell_: hrm... the x10 can act as an adapter.... |
16:32.44 | mindfunk | this is unproven for our use though |
16:32.50 | tsowell_ | hmm |
16:33.19 | mindfunk | the change needs to be made to the script in any case though |
16:33.40 | tsowell_ | okay. should there also be a config flag for the port that the X10 switch is on? |
16:33.45 | mindfunk | ]even if we have to get a usb2rs232 adapter for it |
16:33.54 | mindfunk | Wingnut: do those work with linux? |
16:34.03 | mindfunk | Wingnut: can you research that... |
16:34.08 | prpplague | usb->rs232 ? |
16:34.15 | mindfunk | yeah |
16:34.21 | prpplague | mindfunk: yea they work |
16:34.34 | mindfunk | cool |
16:34.35 | prpplague | mindfunk: however their is an inherint flaw in the control lines |
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16:34.52 | mindfunk | will that prevent us from talking to minicom? |
16:35.01 | mindfunk | s/mincom/uboot |
16:35.03 | mindfunk | sorry |
16:35.09 | prpplague | mindfunk: doing any type of output control like doing cr->lf conversion doesn't work properly |
16:35.36 | mindfunk | that might prevent us from using it then... |
16:35.43 | prpplague | mindfunk: should be able to work with minicom , its the device on the other end that might be and issue |
16:35.53 | mindfunk | right... |
16:35.58 | mindfunk | I meant uboot |
16:36.01 | tsowell_ | we could get a PCI serial I/O card with like 4 ports |
16:36.15 | mindfunk | tsowell_: that was the original plan |
16:36.32 | mindfunk | tsowell_: I was hoping the usb2serial would eliminate that need |
16:36.38 | prpplague | mindfunk: yea, i wouldn't suggest using a usb->rs-232 for debugging |
16:37.12 | mindfunk | ok... |
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16:37.21 | prpplague | mindfunk: not all pci rs-232 cards are supported under linux either |
16:37.52 | prpplague | mindfunk: you may need to recompile your kernel with a new driver for the card |
16:38.03 | mindfunk | that's fine |
16:38.17 | mindfunk | recompilation is not an issue... |
16:38.29 | prpplague | mindfunk: the one using the startech chipset works pretty well |
16:38.40 | mindfunk | got a link? |
16:39.25 | prpplague | http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=237161 |
16:39.26 | mindfunk | it's a shame, usb devices would be much better to work with |
16:39.28 | mindfunk | thanks |
16:39.31 | prpplague | np |
16:39.49 | mindfunk | s/better/easier |
16:40.10 | mindfunk | wow... that's cheap |
16:40.27 | prpplague | mindfunk: agreed, RMK and linux have been arguing of the best way to fix the usb issue for literally years |
16:40.35 | prpplague | s/linux/linus |
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16:41.01 | mindfunk | prpplague: does it work on windows? |
16:41.06 | mindfunk | MK |
16:41.11 | mindfunk | ~RMK |
16:41.12 | jbot | it has been said that rmk is Russell M. King, arm-linux maintainer, http://www.arm.linux.org.uk or ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/source/kernel-patches/v2.4/. THE developer of ARM Linux |
16:41.24 | prpplague | mindfunk: i could not say |
16:41.54 | mindfunk | k... that would be motivation to fix it though... ;) |
16:42.36 | mindfunk | loki1228_: a lot of them will run in crossover.... |
16:42.46 | prpplague | agreed, i did some hacking to solve my specific issue with the usb->rs232 but would never have been accepted as a patch |
16:42.55 | mindfunk | loki1228_: you need any hw? |
16:43.04 | prpplague | loki1228_: i only run native linux apps |
16:43.26 | loki1228_ | prpplague: ah |
16:43.30 | prpplague | loki1228_: i support linux both in spirit and with my wallet |
16:43.34 | Wingnut | mindfunk: the current usb->rs232 cable we have is working with uboot |
16:43.40 | loki1228_ | mindfunk: hw == hardware? |
16:44.01 | prpplague | Wingnut: must not be using in output translation |
16:44.29 | mindfunk | loki1228_: yeah |
16:44.37 | tsowell_ | Wingnut: only under windows |
16:44.38 | mindfunk | Wingnut: on windows? |
16:44.44 | loki1228_ | mindfunk: sure, what do you have? |
16:45.01 | mindfunk | ;) |
16:45.02 | Wingnut | duh |
16:45.14 | Wingnut | yeah, that cable works in windows so far, not sure about Linux |
16:45.28 | prpplague | Wingnut: which chipset is it based on? |
16:45.34 | tsowell_ | I think we should try it on finwe |
16:45.34 | Wingnut | you can get another one from Akash and see if it works |
16:45.38 | Wingnut | dunno |
16:46.33 | mindfunk | tsowell_: I trust prpplague's assessment, but try away if you have the cycles... |
16:46.35 | prpplague | Wingnut: if its pl2303 based, which about 75% are, it works under linux, just has a problem with output translation |
16:47.06 | mindfunk | prpplague: is it possible to filter this? |
16:47.06 | Wingnut | right, I've experienced that with UPSes |
16:48.19 | prpplague | mindfunk: well, the easiest is to just make sure that your tty settings are for no "opost" or "-opost" |
16:48.35 | mindfunk | that simple? |
16:48.35 | prpplague | mindfunk: which gives you raw output with no translations |
16:48.50 | tsowell_ | mindfunk: can we connect an H4 to finwe? |
16:48.52 | prpplague | yea, problem is alot of devices expect cr+lf |
16:48.54 | mindfunk | that might fake out expect though |
16:48.56 | Wingnut | mindfunk: does uboot need special control characters? |
16:48.56 | tsowell_ | mindfunk: or may we? |
16:49.07 | mindfunk | tsowell_: I'm using the 1710 all day... |
16:49.13 | tsowell_ | mindfunk: k |
16:49.23 | mindfunk | Wingnut: I would think so... |
16:49.54 | mindfunk | Wingnut: you got a link for your adapter? |
16:49.59 | prpplague | mindfunk: if you have control of atleast one end of the connection, you should be able to make something work |
16:50.08 | prpplague | i/souce code |
16:50.33 | tsowell_ | prpplague: is the problem only with cr+lf? or control characters in general? |
16:50.51 | prpplague | tsowell_: well the problem is "translation" in general |
16:51.13 | prpplague | tsowell_: i.e. if you tell the serial driver that when it sees a cr come through, change it to cr+lf |
16:51.38 | prpplague | tsowell_: as long as you are doing one to one transmissions, no problems |
16:51.47 | mindfunk | prpplague: is that a terminal setting in minicom? |
16:51.48 | prpplague | tsowell_: cr in, cr out |
16:51.51 | Wingnut | I don't think we want any translation |
16:52.03 | prpplague | mindfunk: thats controlable in minicom |
16:52.11 | prpplague | mindfunk: man stty for some details |
16:52.17 | prpplague | mindfunk: opost section |
16:52.21 | mindfunk | k |
16:52.39 | mindfunk | tsowell_: you want to come experiment with this? |
16:52.58 | tsowell_ | sure, gimme a few minutes though |
16:53.02 | prpplague | did you find the make of the usb adapter? |
16:53.55 | prpplague | hey and if any of you know an arm devr whos looking for a job, send them my way |
16:54.13 | Wingnut | prpplague: one sec |
16:54.35 | mindfunk | prpplague: do you have a card recomendation for >2 serial ports? |
16:54.56 | prpplague | mindfunk: actual startech makes upto 4 iirc |
16:55.01 | mindfunk | ok |
16:55.05 | tsowell_ | that's when it starts to get expensive though |
16:55.07 | prpplague | try their we site |
16:55.09 | mindfunk | tight |
16:55.12 | mindfunk | right |
16:55.15 | Wingnut | cyclades has had linux support for a while |
16:55.24 | tsowell_ | from what I've seen, it may be cheaper to get two 2-ports than one 4-port |
16:55.31 | prpplague | yea |
16:55.38 | mindfunk | tsowell_: over time, we may need more |
16:55.56 | mindfunk | bill has already been "prepared" to spend money on that |
16:56.21 | tsowell_ | yeah, don't want to run out of PCI slots |
16:56.36 | prpplague | if you know you need alot of ports for experimentation, might want to consider getting a *cough* digiboard |
16:56.58 | mindfunk | heh... http://www.startech.com/ststore/itemdetail.cfm?ProductID=NETRS232_4&mt= |
16:57.02 | kergoth_ | blehh |
16:57.26 | tsowell_ | wow |
16:57.40 | prpplague | yikes that expensive |
16:57.53 | Wingnut | prpplague: Cypress Semiconductor chip, VID=04b4, device=5500 |
16:57.54 | mindfunk | right... but it's cool |
16:58.08 | prpplague | you could make that with an old mb and linux |
16:58.22 | mindfunk | true |
16:58.45 | Wingnut | they have single chip solutions for that now IIRC |
16:58.52 | mindfunk | yeah... get some $100 P1 with lot's of PCI |
16:59.48 | Wingnut | http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-usb-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg12567.html |
17:01.02 | prpplague | Wingnut: yea just found that on linux-usb.org |
17:01.09 | mindfunk | someone needs to verify that |
17:02.33 | prpplague | mindfunk: check the actual make and model of the adapter, |
17:02.44 | prpplague | mindfunk: should be able to verifiy on the drivers page |
17:03.10 | mindfunk | I want to see it work before I don't order the digiboard |
17:03.36 | prpplague | mindfunk: hehe, and when you have problems with the digiboard, be sure and call kergoth |
17:03.43 | mindfunk | heh |
17:03.55 | mindfunk | kergoth_: comments on the digiboard? |
17:04.18 | Wingnut | I've seen Digi boards work well with SCO... |
17:04.19 | prpplague | mindfunk: hehe, he hack the linux driver |
17:04.41 | prpplague | mindfunk: http://www.embedded586.com/epc/ts5700-spec-h.html |
17:04.54 | prpplague | mindfunk: take that puppy and put linux on it, your rockin |
17:05.14 | mindfunk | Wingnut: send me a link to your usb->rs232 adapter |
17:05.16 | kergoth_ | mindfunk: heh, i worked for digi for 3 years in unix tech support |
17:06.00 | mindfunk | sweet |
17:06.56 | kergoth_ | prpplague: speaking of digi, i talked to jeanne the other day. apparently ibm wrote a new driver for the Neo boards and its going into 2.6 upstream. glad to see _someone_ doing such things finally |
17:07.00 | kergoth_ | heh |
17:07.56 | mindfunk | Wingnut && tsowell_ && loki1228: lunch? |
17:08.21 | prpplague | kergoth_: cool |
17:08.39 | prpplague | kergoth_: i really wish abcs had gotten their act together |
17:09.01 | prpplague | kergoth_: we had sooooo many products that would have been (and are) big sellers |
17:09.29 | mindfunk | ~pester tsowell_ |
17:09.31 | jbot | tsowell_: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? |
17:09.31 | prpplague | kergoth_: do you remember back in 2000 when i was in nassau doing that ibm pos workstation port for linux? |
17:09.35 | tsowell_ | sup? |
17:09.46 | mindfunk | lunch? |
17:09.50 | tsowell_ | aye! |
17:10.02 | mindfunk | gather the troops and head on over... |
17:10.11 | tsowell_ | on our way |
17:11.08 | prpplague | kergoth_: well most my code ended up here http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2025313308.html |
17:11.49 | kergoth_ | heh, cool. |
17:12.02 | kergoth_ | i'll never be able to understand the pricing of pos devices. the markup boggles the mind |
17:12.28 | kergoth_ | ~monday |
17:12.29 | jbot | monday is probably when everything breaks for no apparent reason, creating so many problems that it takes you until friday to get back to normal. at which point one more thing breaks that takes you the whole weekend to fix |
17:12.34 | prpplague | kergoth_: yea, its cool that the port is being used, not so cool that abcs total pissed away the opportunity to sell it |
17:13.21 | prpplague | kergoth_: it totally bums me out when i see that |
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18:47.48 | mindfunk | red rover, red rover, let tsowell_ come over |
18:48.04 | tsowell_ | omw |
18:48.55 | mindfunk | ~db9 |
18:48.57 | jbot | DB9 is a serial jack. Learn it, dude. |
18:49.05 | mindfunk | ~rs232 |
18:49.07 | jbot | i heard rs232 is R2-D2's father |
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19:12.46 | tsowell_ | Wingnut: did you find out what chipset the USB to serial converter uses? |
19:13.27 | Wingnut | some cypress chipset |
19:21.50 | Wingnut | muahahah! |
19:22.16 | Wingnut | WinCE team is moving a victim into one of our cubes |
19:22.18 | Wingnut | err |
19:22.24 | Wingnut | s/victim/developer |
19:33.58 | tsowell_ | hehe.. are we going to flip coin for said developer? |
19:34.09 | Wingnut | Brian / Chandrika get him |
19:34.18 | Wingnut | we're keeping the space for the test boards |
19:36.12 | Philip | anyone know much about dl'ing and booting your own kernel on an OSK? |
19:39.08 | Wingnut | I've used tftp to boot different kernels |
19:39.19 | Philip | hey |
19:39.27 | Wingnut | hi |
19:39.29 | Philip | do you need to copy into flash before booting? |
19:39.36 | Wingnut | yes |
19:39.39 | Philip | heh |
19:39.59 | Philip | So if I load the the kernel into SDRAM then boot from three |
19:40.05 | Wingnut | generally, just specify 'tftp 10c00000' at teh uboot command line |
19:40.07 | Philip | I uncompress over top of myself? |
19:40.25 | Philip | I have the kernel in RAM |
19:40.26 | Wingnut | load it high into SRAM, you don't want to decompress over itself |
19:40.36 | Philip | hmm |
19:40.41 | Philip | I see |
19:40.56 | Philip | after it decompresses it frees the RAM? |
19:41.15 | Wingnut | don't know |
19:41.22 | Philip | ok |
19:41.43 | prpplague | i always used jtag to put my stuff into the innovator |
19:42.10 | Philip | we don't have one of them :) |
19:42.36 | Philip | I am better than I was |
19:42.57 | Philip | no it says uncompressing as opposed to illegal instruction :) |
19:43.25 | Wingnut | :) |
19:44.39 | prpplague | Philip: "we dont have one of them" ? |
19:45.19 | Philip | JTAG |
19:45.39 | prpplague | oh why not? |
19:45.48 | prpplague | you can build one for about $15.00 |
19:46.15 | Philip | I am just figuring this stuff out |
19:47.08 | prpplague | i'd planning getting out |
19:47.19 | Philip | ? |
19:49.10 | prpplague | much easier to do debugging as well as if you have unbrick the device |
19:49.57 | Philip | sounds like I need to figure out JTAG :) |
19:50.12 | Philip | we are just working with the starter kit right now |
19:55.18 | prpplague | just saying to do long term support for a device, you really need to have some jtag utils |
19:55.47 | Philip | we are in grad school :) |
19:55.56 | Philip | and we also got this piece of hw last week |
20:01.48 | prpplague | ahh, then you definetly need to learn jtag |
20:01.50 | prpplague | :D |
20:02.13 | prpplague | Philip: i sure won;t hire you to do embedded work with out knowing jtag :) |
20:03.12 | Philip | right now I am trying to figure out how the memory is mapped |
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20:18.19 | swart | mi |
20:18.50 | swart | mindfunk: I have test case demo with Bill between 3.30 to 4.00 |
20:25.35 | Philip | I am trying to boot an ew kernel with the OSK board |
20:26.00 | Philip | but I get the UNcompressing Linux message and a bunch of dots, to the right edge of the window |
20:26.12 | Philip | then a CR and nothing |
20:26.25 | Philip | ISO 9001? hide under your desk |
20:26.25 | mindfunk | loki1228: ya don't have "the bob's" top back you up.... |
20:26.54 | loki1228 | mindfunk: they don't have to know that |
20:26.58 | mindfunk | I'm wondering how many people will be sick or wfh on those days |
20:27.18 | mindfunk | loki1228: actually, they are more like "the bobs".... |
20:27.47 | loki1228 | very true |
20:33.17 | prpplague | Philip: probably need to looking to using the printascii function to help debug |
20:33.34 | mindfunk | tsowell_: 26-28th |
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20:40.56 | Wingnut | mindfunk: that usb->serial converter doesn't work with 2420 console |
20:41.10 | mindfunk | why? |
20:41.20 | Wingnut | prints garbage to the screen |
20:41.47 | mindfunk | that's not what it is supposed to do? |
20:42.05 | mindfunk | Wingnut: this is with windows right? |
20:43.19 | Wingnut | correct in both answers |
20:43.25 | Wingnut | s/in/for |
20:43.41 | Wingnut | I don't have a Linux box over here |
20:45.29 | Wingnut | and the 1710 also breaks the converter |
20:47.48 | Wingnut | IMHO, I'd rather use a usb->serial converter on the console port instead of on the TQ hardware for a while (until I can verify the hardware) |
20:48.30 | mindfunk | Wingnut: ?? I thought you said it worked with windows? |
20:48.55 | Wingnut | on the HW agent side |
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20:49.44 | mindfunk | ah... but you cannot talk to uboot with whatever terminal emulator you are using? |
20:49.51 | mindfunk | I thought you said you could |
20:49.58 | Wingnut | no |
20:50.10 | Wingnut | didn't have a chance to try it |
20:50.22 | Wingnut | until about 5 mins ago |
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21:09.00 | mindfunk | glytch: yo |
21:09.08 | glytch | hey kiddo |
21:09.09 | glytch | (: |
21:09.18 | mindfunk | how goes it? |
21:09.53 | mindfunk | Any word on making you a TIer yet? |
21:09.57 | glytch | lol |
21:09.59 | glytch | of course not |
21:10.05 | mindfunk | should ask... |
21:10.24 | mindfunk | you still working on nav... or the new project |
21:10.25 | mindfunk | ? |
21:10.32 | kergoth_ | hey glytch |
21:10.33 | mindfunk | jose was over here last week... |
21:11.04 | mindfunk | said the "new thing" may run inferno or nucleus... |
21:11.14 | mindfunk | but linux was not certain... |
21:11.39 | glytch | nav is supposed to be code freezing today |
21:11.52 | mindfunk | does it work? |
21:12.02 | mindfunk | someone told me that it shipped... |
21:12.13 | mindfunk | I saw danny faught this weekend... |
21:12.27 | mindfunk | he didn't tell me that though |
21:12.35 | mindfunk | I think martin taylor did |
21:12.40 | glytch | mindfunk yeah it... works.. |
21:12.42 | glytch | kinda |
21:12.43 | glytch | sometimes |
21:12.44 | glytch | heh |
21:12.46 | glytch | it's a pos |
21:12.51 | mindfunk | :) |
21:13.24 | glytch | new platform... i have no idea what they are doing |
21:13.29 | glytch | haven't heard anything about it in weeks |
21:13.51 | mindfunk | you should go talk to jose... he said that he wanted to try and get you on the project |
21:14.10 | mindfunk | he also said it probably would not be color... which was a big letdown |
21:14.18 | mindfunk | and a mistake, IMHO |
21:14.56 | mindfunk | it's more "SPOT" than "PET".... |
21:16.27 | mindfunk | Wingnut loki1228 tsowell swart : only 4 of the 6 spaces over there are ours... |
21:16.48 | mindfunk | aparently, 1 cube == 3 spaces |
21:16.57 | mindfunk | just be prepared |
21:16.58 | glytch | if it's not color... it should be very sharp grayscale |
21:17.07 | mindfunk | right... |
21:17.22 | mindfunk | but nothing makes it unique, w/o color |
21:19.19 | tsowell | mindfunk: a third person is going to have to sit closer than 1 ft away from the static mat. |
21:20.11 | mindfunk | tsowell: right |
21:20.28 | mindfunk | that would probably be after the audit though' |
21:20.35 | tsowell | hehe, yeah |
21:20.40 | mindfunk | not that that makes it ok |
21:21.01 | tsowell | wasn't there another linux person coming? |
21:21.18 | mindfunk | they are trying to sort out INS paperwork... |
21:35.10 | mindfunk | loki1228: http://www.reason.com/links/links010305.shtml |
21:38.10 | loki1228 | mindfunk: i'll get to it in a bit |
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21:58.27 | mindfunk | k-reddy: krishna?!? |
22:00.27 | k-reddy | mindfunk: krishna's machine. 8) |
22:00.55 | k-reddy | mindfunk: if I can get X going on it. looks like the HW is fubar'ed |
22:01.15 | mindfunk | boot from knoppix?... |
22:01.36 | k-reddy | debian unstable |
22:01.50 | k-reddy | doh. yes. it does work from knoppix |
22:01.52 | mindfunk | right... but knoppix might be a good diag tool |
22:02.10 | k-reddy | intel and dell drivers both crash under win xp |
22:02.21 | k-reddy | knoppix works fine. |
22:02.27 | mindfunk | so... don't run xp |
22:02.57 | k-reddy | fdisk is a wonderful tool for removing xp viruses |
22:03.19 | mindfunk | you could open a stars ticket... |
22:04.22 | k-reddy | If i can't get x working, I'll let them put winxxx on it again and see if they can get it going. but I should be able to get x going |
22:04.28 | mindfunk | so, you have to reinstall the TQ key driver every time you use a different usb port |
22:04.40 | mindfunk | Wingnut: have you seen that ^^ |
22:04.57 | loki1228 | I've seen it |
22:05.05 | Wingnut | ack! |
22:05.10 | loki1228 | that's pretty weak |
22:05.11 | mindfunk | at the very least, it's an ER |
22:05.15 | Wingnut | yeah, I have seen that |
22:06.08 | mindfunk | k-reddy: if it's krishna's machine, just put OS/2 on it and tell him that it's windows in a "different video mode" |
22:06.42 | mindfunk | ... you couldn't use the other modes because the hw is fubar'd |
22:08.36 | Philip | Anyone here know how to make a 2.6 kernel boot on the 5912 OSK. I think I may hav a board id issue |
22:10.23 | loki1228 | man, it sure feels like the clock is ticking slow today =\ |
22:10.42 | mindfunk | loki1228: not slow enough actually |
22:10.52 | kergoth | ~today |
22:10.53 | jbot | I don't know what today is, but it probably sucks. |
22:11.59 | loki1228 | It does suck - I'm gonna miss 24 tonight thanks to class |
22:15.47 | mindfunk | I have recieved 141MB of spam since febuary 04.... |
22:15.55 | mindfunk | to one account |
22:17.49 | kergoth | heh, time for spamassassin? |
22:17.50 | kergoth | or dspam |
22:17.50 | kergoth | ~emulate stewie |
22:17.51 | jbot | Damn you, broccoli. |
22:18.47 | loki1228 | hehe - Damn you, damn the broccoli, and damn the Wright brothers! |
22:18.56 | kergoth | exactly |
22:18.57 | mindfunk | bogofilter got 91% of it... |
22:19.37 | loki1228 | kergoth: saw some of the clips from the new season the other day - looks like its gonna be just as good as it ever was :-) |
22:19.45 | kergoth | excellent. |
22:19.52 | kergoth | ~emulate peter |
22:19.53 | jbot | Chris, everything I say is a lie. Except that. And that. And that. And that. And that. An |
22:20.15 | loki1228 | now here's to American Dad not sucking |
22:20.17 | kergoth | ~botsnack |
22:20.17 | jbot | aw, gee, kergoth |
22:24.08 | loki1228 | ~emulate brian |
22:24.19 | kergoth | dont think we have any brian or chris quotes yet |
22:24.23 | loki1228 | ah |
22:24.29 | kergoth | ~emulate stewie |
22:24.30 | jbot | I come bearing a gift. I'll give you a hint. It's in my diaper, and it's not a toaster. |
22:24.31 | kergoth | should add some |
22:24.37 | loki1228 | heh |
22:25.16 | loki1228 | "Well, Peter, if you're going to pull a party out of your ass, you might want to go ahead and stand up" |
22:25.24 | kergoth | hehe |
22:25.39 | kergoth | that one was stewie's first birthday, right? |
22:25.43 | loki1228 | yep |
22:25.50 | loki1228 | the "man in white" |
22:26.32 | loki1228 | I really should buy the DVDs now instead of relying on my weak VCD tv rips |
22:26.37 | kergoth | jbot: emulate brian is <reply> Well, Peter, if you're going to pull a party out of your ass, you might want to go ahead and stand up. |
22:26.38 | jbot | kergoth: okay |
22:26.42 | kergoth | there we go |
22:26.49 | loki1228 | excellent |
22:26.56 | kergoth | i just picked up the first one for futurama and family guy. need to grab the rest |
22:27.18 | loki1228 | kergoth: you watch [Adult Swim]? |
22:27.23 | loki1228 | kergoth: you watch [Adult Swim]? |
22:27.23 | kergoth | yeah |
22:27.28 | kergoth | yeah |
22:27.35 | kergoth | heh |
22:27.44 | loki1228 | sorry - wrong focus |
22:28.32 | loki1228 | do you watch ATHF? |
22:29.13 | kergoth | not often, have only seen a couple episodes |
22:29.36 | loki1228 | it's pretty out there |
22:30.15 | kergoth | yeah, i'd say that description definately applies to anything featuring a talking blob of meat |
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22:50.04 | mindfunk | Wingnut loki1228 swart: if you have a TQ key, but it does not work with HW, please take a screen shot of the license key and send it to me |
22:52.07 | mindfunk | ~pester loki1228 |
22:52.10 | jbot | loki1228: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? |
22:52.11 | mindfunk | ~pester swart |
22:52.14 | jbot | swart: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? |
22:52.31 | loki1228 | mindfunk: k |
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23:05.22 | k-reddy | well, the XF86Config-4 from knoppix didn't help. looks like it was doing the same thing, but it works on knoppix |
23:11.00 | mindfunk | k-reddy: go get glytch... he is the king of XF86Config-4 |
23:11.47 | mindfunk | Wingnut: devfs=nomount |
23:12.42 | mindfunk | ~pester swart loki1228 |
23:12.44 | jbot | swart loki1228: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? |
23:15.48 | loki1228 | mindfunk: what? |
23:16.27 | loki1228 | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6847012 |
23:18.19 | mindfunk | loki1228: send me a screenshot, yo |
23:19.28 | mindfunk | swart: ^^ |
23:19.38 | loki1228 | shes not around |
23:19.43 | loki1228 | what's going on? |
23:19.49 | mindfunk | who let her out? |
23:42.57 | Wingnut | mindfunk: ping |
23:46.24 | Wingnut | ~pester mindfunk |
23:46.26 | jbot | mindfunk: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? |
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23:51.39 | tsowell | loki1228: you're right about the new acroread.. it's super fast |
23:51.52 | loki1228 | ?? |
23:52.05 | tsowell | you mentioned it at the meeting on friday, right? |
23:52.20 | loki1228 | I talked about it, but I haven't used it |
23:52.24 | loki1228 | I use xpdf |
23:52.37 | tsowell | oh, I thought you told me it was fast |
23:52.51 | loki1228 | I remember someone saying it was, but not me |
23:52.57 | tsowell | ah, okay.. it was mike oops |
23:53.31 | loki1228 | ah - the real question is "is it still the ugliest gui ever?" :-) |
23:54.12 | Wingnut | you should see it on CDE |
23:54.17 | tsowell | yup.. but xpdf is pretty ugly too, is it not? |
23:54.38 | loki1228 | tsowell: I prefer "minimalistic" ;-) |
23:56.18 | tsowell | heh, something can be minimalistic without being ugly |
23:58.07 | loki1228 | yeah - I still think that xpdf looks better than acroread |