| 15:01.13 | *** join/#ol prpplague (~dave@mailhost2.amltd.com) |
| 15:15.36 | a-atwood_afk | morning! |
| 15:18.09 | Wingnut | indeed |
| 15:25.12 | kergoth`zzz | bleh |
| 15:25.24 | kergoth`zzz | ~mornings |
| 15:25.25 | jbot | mornings MUST be destroyed! |
| 15:29.29 | a-atwood | ~monday |
| 15:29.30 | jbot | i heard monday is when everything breaks for no apparent reason, creating so many problems that it takes you until friday to get back to normal. at which point one more thing breaks that takes you the whole weekend to fix |
| 15:29.40 | prpplague | ~emulate abcs |
| 15:29.41 | jbot | if we can't sell it for 500% markup we aren't interested! |
| 15:29.48 | prpplague | kergoth: hey |
| 15:29.51 | a-atwood | ~emulate CVS |
| 15:29.52 | jbot | here is the tree, minus half the changes the last guy made |
| 15:29.57 | prpplague | kergoth: next week? |
| 15:30.05 | prpplague | kergoth: flying saucer? |
| 15:57.55 | *** join/#ol tsowell (~tom@c-24-0-87-191.client.comcast.net) |
| 16:06.09 | mindfunk | a/me grumbles |
| 16:24.21 | mindfunk | tsowell: I need a volunteer |
| 16:24.24 | mindfunk | ;) |
| 16:24.29 | mindfunk | Wingnut: ^^ |
| 16:24.34 | tsowell | mindfunk: oh boy |
| 16:24.50 | mindfunk | actually, if either of you have a few minutes head over |
| 16:25.00 | mindfunk | it's just moving a pc |
| 16:25.10 | tsowell | okay, brt |
| 16:33.18 | tsowell | does anyone like the new gtk2 file chooser dialog? |
| 16:34.01 | *** join/#ol max_ (~max@jhr-max-5205.mprg.ee.vt.edu) |
| 16:34.49 | *** join/#ol Crofton (~balister@h80ad5e9e.dhcp.vt.edu) |
| 16:38.40 | kergoth | http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date=2005-02-21 |
| 16:39.54 | Wingnut | hehe |
| 16:41.26 | tsowell | I was actually disappointed with the way they implemented /pizza |
| 16:41.45 | tsowell | it pops up a browser window. that means you have to stop playing and let another app have focus |
| 16:41.48 | tsowell | lame |
| 16:42.13 | mindfunk | Wingnut: oh yeah, the monitor works... thanks |
| 16:42.18 | Wingnut | neat |
| 16:42.32 | tsowell | they should have done it like pizza_party |
| 16:42.35 | Wingnut | now you've got a 21" monitor attached to a 180Mhz Indy |
| 16:43.32 | Crofton | hmm |
| 16:43.33 | mindfunk | tsowell: that is a surprise, considering most of the major pizza places have online stores anyway |
| 16:43.55 | mindfunk | Wingnut: um... right |
| 16:44.06 | mindfunk | Wingnut: do you want it back or something? |
| 16:44.10 | Wingnut | no |
| 16:44.26 | Wingnut | it just seems a little odd |
| 16:44.33 | mindfunk | yeah... |
| 16:44.41 | Wingnut | but we have a 20" monitor connected to our Indy |
| 16:45.16 | Wingnut | most desktop PCs have 15" or 17" monitors and are tremendously more powerful |
| 16:45.21 | Wingnut | (today's PCs) |
| 16:45.47 | mindfunk | wha! http://it.slashdot.org/it/05/02/19/1424201.shtml?tid=93 |
| 16:46.00 | mindfunk | Wingnut: right... I used what I got |
| 17:04.36 | mindfunk | is today a holiday or something |
| 17:04.53 | tsowell | yep |
| 17:04.59 | tsowell | happy presidents day |
| 17:05.54 | mindfunk | oh yeah |
| 17:07.13 | Crofton | Presidents day is for giving people pictures of dead presidents I think |
| 17:08.38 | mindfunk | someone needs to do that for me |
| 17:08.43 | mindfunk | or to me rather |
| 17:09.19 | Crofton | same here |
| 17:14.48 | a-atwood | this week looks like a clone of last weeks continuous cluster |
| 17:16.16 | a-atwood | I got an e-mail an hour ago containing 2 CVS clients I have to evaluate by CoB today |
| 17:16.40 | Wingnut | ack |
| 17:18.16 | a-atwood | and IT still wants to do pserver access through SSL because it is more secure than triple-DES ssh |
| 17:19.06 | Wingnut | I think it's standard for most IT departments not to know what they are talking about at least half the time |
| 17:19.33 | Wingnut | "But we're A+ certified!" |
| 17:19.39 | a-atwood | in other news, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, and Santa Claus all went on strike for shorter work hours |
| 17:20.47 | a-atwood | my response to that would be: "You got the A part right, anyway." |
| 17:27.20 | mindfunk | Wingnut && tsowell: food |
| 17:27.23 | mindfunk | ?? |
| 17:28.12 | mindfunk | ~pester tsowell |
| 17:28.14 | jbot | tsowell: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? |
| 17:28.15 | mindfunk | ~pester Wingnut |
| 17:28.18 | jbot | Wingnut: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? |
| 17:28.18 | Wingnut | k |
| 17:29.17 | mindfunk | hehe... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4282799.stm |
| 17:30.02 | mindfunk | you guys coming?!? |
| 17:34.09 | a-atwood | excellent article |
| 17:34.37 | Crofton | heh |
| 17:35.01 | Crofton | A friend of mine was in the DC party set in high school, when the Bush brothers were having parties |
| 17:41.22 | a-atwood | bet you haven't seen this either: http://www.dvc.org.uk/~johnny/jeff/ukreport.html |
| 18:27.22 | *** join/#ol Marius777 (kvirc@dsl-084-058-045-253.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:49.13 | mindfunk | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4282865.stm |
| 18:55.44 | mindfunk | ~monday |
| 18:55.45 | jbot | methinks monday is when everything breaks for no apparent reason, creating so many problems that it takes you until friday to get back to normal. at which point one more thing breaks that takes you the whole weekend to fix |
| 19:02.03 | mindfunk | kergoth: you gonna be in today? |
| 19:03.59 | mindfunk | Wingnut: so... I was just told that graham was going to be here at 1:30... |
| 19:04.18 | mindfunk | do you know if that was when he planned on showing up? |
| 19:04.31 | mindfunk | or when he should be through with the badge folk? |
| 19:04.34 | Wingnut | about 1:00p was the last I heard |
| 19:04.42 | Wingnut | I think he picked up his badge on Friday |
| 19:05.16 | Wingnut | but my IRC logs don't go back that far |
| 19:05.32 | mindfunk | ok... I'm hearing too many conflicting things... |
| 19:06.07 | mindfunk | do you know if brian will be here at all today? |
| 19:06.13 | Wingnut | don't know |
| 19:09.17 | tsowell | I could really use gdb for arm right now.. |
| 19:09.35 | Crofton | build it |
| 19:10.14 | tsowell | how much extra work will that be? |
| 19:10.21 | Crofton | well |
| 19:10.32 | Crofton | do you need to remote debug? |
| 19:10.35 | tsowell | nope |
| 19:10.43 | Crofton | just native debug? |
| 19:10.47 | tsowell | aye |
| 19:10.47 | Crofton | should be pretty easy |
| 19:10.50 | tsowell | sweet |
| 19:10.56 | Crofton | ./configure |
| 19:11.18 | Crofton | I built gdb for arm hosted on i386 nd gdbserver Friday |
| 19:11.28 | Crofton | but gdbserver croaks in my map |
| 19:11.44 | Crofton | so I am trying to figure out oe to build my rootfs |
| 19:11.58 | Crofton | I am hoping it is just a toolchain problem |
| 19:24.47 | kergoth_ | mindfunk: i'm in the office now. whatd you need? |
| 19:33.57 | a-atwood | TimRiker: any effect yet? |
| 19:34.14 | TimRiker | on? |
| 19:34.29 | a-atwood | pserver intentions |
| 19:34.57 | TimRiker | ah. no. not found jason around. is there a meeting planned soon/ |
| 19:35.06 | TimRiker | s~/~?~ |
| 19:35.17 | a-atwood | dunno. will query K. |
| 19:36.26 | kergoth_ | god today sucks |
| 19:48.59 | a-atwood | that it does. More dentist er, stuff today. 8( |
| 19:49.49 | kergoth_ | doh |
| 19:51.17 | kergoth_ | ooh, the new archos is available for purchase online |
| 19:52.10 | a-atwood | and I get handed a cd that the media surface looks like a 2-year old frathouse Playboy, and am told to put it in cvs |
| 19:52.11 | mindfunk | today completely sucks |
| 19:52.21 | kergoth_ | yes |
| 19:52.33 | mindfunk | eweh... |
| 19:52.41 | kergoth_ | you know, i think i hate my job more with each passing day. my life is becoming office space. |
| 19:52.44 | mindfunk | a-atwood: is it sticky? |
| 19:52.55 | a-atwood | mindfunk: nah, kinda crusty |
| 19:53.34 | mindfunk | hrm |
| 19:54.58 | a-atwood | SON OF A BITCH! |
| 19:55.02 | mindfunk | ? |
| 19:55.31 | a-atwood | couldn't read it. They had the Postit Note stuck to the FUCKING MEDIA SIDE |
| 19:55.36 | kergoth_ | haha |
| 19:55.48 | kergoth_ | i used to use postits on cds once in a while (not media side) |
| 19:55.54 | kergoth_ | that stopped the day i peeled it off and the media came with it |
| 19:56.07 | kergoth_ | err yeah |
| 19:56.16 | kergoth_ | god i hate mondays, cant even think straight |
| 19:56.19 | kergoth_ | ~stab monday |
| 19:56.21 | jbot | ACTION runs at monday with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 19:56.24 | a-atwood | would you believe this is a GD production Gold CD? |
| 19:57.02 | mindfunk | that is entirely consistant with what I remember about e&ps |
| 20:04.52 | a-atwood | mindfunk: then he gives me a list of modules, and a tag he wants on them. I'm all "WTF? tag which versions?" |
| 20:41.33 | *** join/#ol gram (graham@mknod.org) |
| 20:48.32 | tsowell | gah.. needed a core dump but mplayer has a sig handler for SIGSEGV so it can pop a window that says "You got a SIGSEGV. now I won't dump the core because of this stupid signal handler" |
| 20:48.41 | tsowell | ~monday |
| 20:48.42 | jbot | hmm... monday is when everything breaks for no apparent reason, creating so many problems that it takes you until friday to get back to normal. at which point one more thing breaks that takes you the whole weekend to fix |
| 20:50.14 | *** join/#ol prpplague (~dave@mailhost2.amltd.com) |
| 20:50.44 | mindfunk | TimRiker: does bzflag work with miniGL? |
| 20:51.07 | mindfunk | ~miniGL |
| 20:51.20 | tsowell | openGL ES you mean? |
| 20:51.51 | tsowell | oh, nm, there is a minigl |
| 20:51.56 | mindfunk | there is some scalled down implementation called ... |
| 20:54.06 | tsowell | there are a couple called minigl. the one for palmos looks pretty sweet |
| 20:54.21 | mindfunk | right... |
| 20:54.36 | mindfunk | tsowell: you were tasked with bzflag, yes? |
| 20:54.42 | tsowell | mindufnk: yeah |
| 20:54.52 | kergoth_ | heh, email from a palm os guy working on the linux port on l-a-k |
| 20:54.53 | kergoth_ | nifty |
| 20:55.21 | mindfunk | tsowell: any progress? |
| 20:55.28 | kergoth_ | http://www.cafepress.com/destroymornings.18262087 .. hehe |
| 20:55.33 | mindfunk | tsowell: or are you working on mplayer still? |
| 20:55.41 | tsowell | mindfunk: still waiting on IMG for X11 |
| 20:56.49 | tsowell | mindfunk: and yeah, still working on mplayer. if I only had gdb... |
| 20:57.00 | mindfunk | right |
| 20:57.01 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 20:57.12 | mindfunk | get gdb... |
| 20:57.20 | tsowell | need to get termcap first |
| 20:57.20 | kergoth_ | want me to build you gdb, out of oe, using the omap toolchain? |
| 20:57.25 | kergoth_ | probably faster. |
| 20:57.43 | tsowell | heh, if you don't mind |
| 20:57.51 | mindfunk | ~pester tsowell |
| 20:57.53 | jbot | tsowell: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? |
| 20:57.54 | mindfunk | oops sorry |
| 20:58.03 | mindfunk | pester TimRiker |
| 20:58.06 | mindfunk | ~pester TimRiker |
| 20:58.09 | jbot | TimRiker: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? |
| 20:58.14 | mindfunk | egad |
| 20:59.04 | mindfunk | ~pester gram |
| 20:59.07 | jbot | gram: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? |
| 21:00.40 | kergoth_ | tsowell: what version of ncurses is in your rootfs? |
| 21:02.00 | tsowell | kergoth: wow, I don't have ncurses |
| 21:02.09 | TimRiker | mindfunk: never tried minigl. |
| 21:02.36 | kergoth_ | hmmk |
| 21:03.58 | kergoth_ | i really hate my job |
| 21:07.06 | mindfunk | TimRiker: I ask because our GL is not 100%... |
| 21:07.32 | tsowell | it meets opengl es, doesn't it? |
| 21:07.42 | mindfunk | TimRiker: how much of a pain do you think it would be to make it work with miniGL? |
| 21:07.56 | mindfunk | tsowell: um, not 100% sure, but no |
| 21:08.30 | mindfunk | keith wants to know because he doesn't think it will be 100% by friday |
| 21:12.03 | tsowell | WOOT! |
| 21:14.55 | tsowell | I don't need gdb as badly as I did 10 minutes ago |
| 21:25.54 | kergoth_ | tsowell: /home/clarson/tarballs/ on omap-linux{1,2}.sc.ti.com |
| 21:26.02 | kergoth_ | tsowell: has the ncurses, readline, and gdb packages |
| 21:28.00 | tsowell | awesome, thanks a lot! |
| 21:28.04 | kergoth_ | np |
| 21:28.26 | mindfunk | gram: feel free to update the new hire page, there are more folks coming... |
| 21:29.07 | gram | mindfunk: alright. i'll see what i can do. |
| 21:31.15 | mindfunk | tsowell && Wingnut: if you don't mind doing so, put home contact info on your wiki page |
| 21:31.47 | tsowell | mindfunk: I'm way ahead of you |
| 21:34.01 | tsowell | mindfunk: where can I find the baseport releases? |
| 21:34.38 | mindfunk | good question... |
| 21:34.50 | mindfunk | there is a page on the wiki that points to it |
| 21:35.03 | mindfunk | shouldn't it be a part of our release too? |
| 21:35.14 | tsowell | yeah, they used to be on littebit but I guess keith stopped putting new ones there |
| 21:37.13 | Wingnut | done |
| 21:42.54 | mindfunk | Wingnut: done with what? irda? |
| 21:43.02 | Wingnut | adding home info to wiki |
| 21:43.06 | mindfunk | ah |
| 21:55.07 | gram | how long does it take for an email alias to become active? |
| 21:55.26 | kergoth_ | hm, anyone know when ti's paying out their bonuses? |
| 21:55.51 | mindfunk | gram: should be fairly immediate... |
| 21:55.57 | mindfunk | kergoth_: they already have |
| 21:56.18 | mindfunk | at least, they did for the profit sharing |
| 21:56.35 | mindfunk | on 02/15/05 |
| 21:56.43 | tsowell | mindfunk: think we could get ahold of another menelaus board? |
| 21:56.44 | kergoth_ | via direct deposit, or seperate check? |
| 21:56.50 | mindfunk | tsowell: keiths |
| 21:56.55 | mindfunk | DD |
| 21:57.25 | kergoth_ | hey look, money |
| 21:59.58 | mindfunk | kergoth_: be happy you were employed for the entire year... |
| 22:05.33 | mindfunk | ~rlart |
| 22:07.43 | mindfunk | tsowell && Wingnut: cleanup space on finwe if ya can, pls |
| 22:07.50 | Wingnut | k |
| 22:12.44 | kergoth_ | despite today sucking, i'm actually getting things done |
| 22:12.46 | kergoth_ | its strange. |
| 22:12.59 | kergoth_ | no doubt i'll look tomorrow and find i did it all wrong or something |
| 22:13.02 | kergoth_ | just cause thats how it goes |
| 22:17.20 | kergoth_ | okay, yep, this calls for a second trip to starbucks today |
| 22:21.27 | mindfunk | so, I've noticed that the spanish speakers that work here have no problem blurting out obscenities |
| 22:21.41 | mindfunk | I don't have a problem with that... |
| 22:21.58 | mindfunk | ...I just want to be able to do it in english too |
| 22:22.52 | tsowell | go to a spanish speaking country |
| 22:25.30 | mindfunk | but but.... it's not fair |
| 22:26.06 | tsowell | sure it is. they came here. probably |
| 22:26.48 | mindfunk | um... do you realize how many people speak spanish in this state? |
| 22:28.53 | tsowell | yeah, they had to get here somehow. I'm sure many were born.. but you can learn spanish and cuss here just like they did |
| 22:28.58 | tsowell | it couldn't be more fair |
| 22:29.30 | tsowell | and by born, I mean born here |
| 22:30.27 | mindfunk | heh... no... because I prefer to curse in english, where they prefer to do so in spanish... so, I'm forced to modify my cursing, where they are not |
| 22:31.05 | tsowell | your cursing language preference is nobody's fault but yours |
| 22:31.21 | mindfunk | right... but that doesn't make it fair |
| 22:31.52 | tsowell | yeah it does. you are all free to curse in spanish |
| 22:32.17 | mindfunk | TI is blatently discriminating against those that prefer to curse in english |
| 22:33.43 | mindfunk | tsowell: next thing you'll say is that black people should paint thier skin white.... won't you!!?!? |
| 22:33.47 | mindfunk | ;P |
| 22:34.49 | tsowell | hmm, well TI is also blatently discriminating against people who want to drink booze all day at work |
| 22:35.01 | mindfunk | good point |
| 22:35.07 | Crofton | heh |
| 22:35.09 | mindfunk | ;) |
| 22:35.13 | Crofton | grad school |
| 22:35.21 | Crofton | I can always blow of the day drinking |
| 22:35.21 | tsowell | hehe |
| 22:35.45 | mindfunk | Crofton: yeah, but you don't get paid really |
| 22:36.23 | Crofton | true |
| 22:36.29 | Crofton | But I do get paid |
| 22:36.44 | Crofton | You must have priorities |
| 22:37.14 | mindfunk | winos don't do shit and drink all day... |
| 22:37.21 | mindfunk | ~spell wino |
| 22:37.46 | tsowell | they don't get paid |
| 22:38.00 | mindfunk | right, just beg for change |
| 22:39.23 | tsowell | but drinking all day is expensive. could begging really support that? |
| 22:39.30 | tsowell | it seems far better to just drink at work |
| 22:39.51 | tsowell | I'll bring this up when Templeton is here on friday |
| 22:40.01 | mindfunk | I agree it would be better to drink at work, but winos do seem to drink all day |
| 22:55.43 | tsowell | are these daughterboards supposed to come off easily? |
| 23:34.17 | gram | how come i can't start a terminal on finew over tightvnc? |
| 23:34.31 | tsowell | mindfunk: I think the G-Sample's predecessor was the F-Sample |
| 23:34.39 | tsowell | gram: what happens when you try to? |
| 23:34.49 | gram | tsowell: nothing. |
| 23:35.21 | mindfunk | tsowell: ok... ?? |
| 23:37.29 | gram | mindfunk: can apt-get upgrade finwe? |
| 23:37.37 | tsowell | mindfunk: just in case you were wondering |
| 23:37.53 | tsowell | mindfunk: so it's probably not G as in "gangsta" |
| 23:37.56 | mindfunk | gram: sure... |
| 23:38.19 | gram | Need to get 319MB/319MB of archives. |
| 23:38.20 | mindfunk | tsowell: or the 'F' as in ... |
| 23:38.48 | mindfunk | I didn't think the G was for that... it sounds like that though |
| 23:38.48 | gram | testquest doesn't seem to be working either. i don't think. |
| 23:38.58 | kergoth_ | ~stab today |
| 23:39.00 | jbot | ACTION runs at today with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 23:39.37 | tsowell | mindfunk: well now maybe you can trick yourself into thinking it doesn't sound like that. it worked for me |
| 23:39.59 | kergoth_ | damnit damnit damnit |
| 23:40.02 | kergoth_ | i cant ssh into my box at home |
| 23:40.10 | kergoth_ | wrt assigned it a different ip and hosed my forwards |
| 23:40.16 | kergoth_ | god i hate monday |
| 23:40.38 | mindfunk | I feel your pain, I can't get over the feeling that someone is robbing my house when that happens |
| 23:40.52 | tsowell | kergoth_: hah, I did that once. effed up my ipchains |
| 23:40.57 | mindfunk | I have a static though... |
| 23:41.00 | tsowell | dude, me too |
| 23:41.12 | gram | tsowell: how much is it with comcast? |
| 23:41.27 | kergoth_ | i really should just switch my LAN over to ipv6 |
| 23:41.31 | mindfunk | kergoth_: can you strobe the network and find your machine? |
| 23:41.34 | tsowell | gram: too much |
| 23:41.48 | kergoth_ | mindfunk: its behind NAT. the port forwards no longer point at the correct internal address. |
| 23:41.55 | mindfunk | ah |
| 23:42.00 | kergoth_ | it was my screwup. i didnt setup the wrt to hand it a fixed address yet |
| 23:42.05 | kergoth_ | and it lost its lease |
| 23:42.39 | kergoth_ | yes, its definately time to switch the lan to ipv6. everybody on live ips, no nat crap |
| 23:45.50 | tsowell | I kind of like NAT so I don't have to pay comcast more |
| 23:46.20 | kergoth_ | sign up with freenet6. get a full ipv6 block. |
| 23:48.45 | mindfunk | gram: take a look at the pdf in /targets/doc |
| 23:48.54 | mindfunk | on finwe, of course |
| 23:49.49 | mindfunk | ~pester gram |
| 23:49.51 | jbot | gram: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? |
| 23:50.07 | mindfunk | wife attack... I gotta leave |
| 23:50.16 | tsowell | lucky |
| 23:50.20 | mindfunk | right |
| 23:50.36 | tsowell | depending on what you meant by "wife attack" |
| 23:50.42 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 23:50.45 | mindfunk | nothing good... |
| 23:51.07 | kergoth_ | yay, up to 1,333 unique packages in oe |
| 23:52.26 | tsowell | wtf is up with tftpd on finwe? or this board? |