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15:23.59mindfunkanyboy awake
15:24.01mindfunk?
15:24.27mindfunks/anyboy/anybody
15:24.44gramyes
15:26.13prpplagueho ho ho
15:26.17prpplaguemerry freakin monday
15:27.28mindfunkdude... I don't want to hear it... at least you are in barbados
15:28.51mindfunkTheCollector: you at TI?
15:30.08TheCollectoryeah
15:30.12prpplaguemindfunk: hehe, yea well, its hot and i'm broke since i put down a deposit on a beach house
15:30.49TheCollectorprpplague: you know what this is? it's the world's smallest violin playing just for you...
15:30.58prpplaguehehe
15:31.18prpplagueits just a rental
15:31.35prpplaguenot like i own it
15:31.43TheCollectorstill, it would be nice
15:32.00prpplagueits got a mango tree in the back yard
15:32.05TheCollectorcool
15:32.14TheCollector~pester mindfunk
15:32.16jbotmindfunk: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet?  see http://beverlys.net/LJ/BuggingYou.swf
15:33.45TheCollectorprpplague: what's the avg. temp/humidity in barbados?
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15:34.20prpplagueTheCollector: http://www.weather.com/activities/travel/businesstraveler/weather/tenday.html?locid=BGI:9&from=36hr_topnav_business
15:34.59prpplagueTheCollector: kinda the same just about every day
15:35.28prpplagueTheCollector: humidity is usually about 70%
15:35.46TheCollectorhuh
15:37.07TheCollectorsounds kinda like houston
15:37.10prpplaguewe get about 10 minutes of rain just about every day
15:37.14TheCollectorexcept a bit more humid
15:37.18prpplagueTheCollector: yea
15:37.27prpplaguegalvaston
15:38.44TheCollectorgalveston is cool, except for the crappy water...
15:39.03prpplaguehehe yea
15:43.15TheCollector~lart mindfunk
15:45.25mindfunkdamnit
15:46.35TheCollectorwhat's goin on?
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15:52.17mindfunkjust lot's of bugs
15:52.40mindfunkI was going to ask you to put your qual test results in the db... but that is broken
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15:55.37tsowellmindfunk: ping
15:56.28TheCollectormindfunk: ok
15:56.49mindfunktsowell: pong
15:57.25mindfunktsowell: I ping'd yo mama real good last night
15:57.40tsowellhow was her latency?
15:58.12mindfunkha... real short like
15:59.16tsowellso.. may I have your ES2.x board today?
16:00.46mindfunkno
16:00.50mindfunkheh... actually
16:00.55mindfunkyeah...
16:01.00tsowellawesome...
16:01.10mindfunkjust get me a working h4
16:01.20tsowellwe can trade
16:01.43mindfunkTheCollector: come help me move finwe and my boards to the lab
16:01.50TheCollectork
16:01.51TheCollectoromw
16:01.54mindfunkTheCollector: wait
16:01.56mindfunknm
16:02.32mindfunkI just remembered I've got to submit a stars ticket to have the dns updated
16:02.44TheCollectork
16:02.47gramwe've got names over here, unless you need specific names
16:03.01tsowelllike "finwe"?
16:03.04gramoh...
16:03.08gramfinwe... right.
16:03.55mindfunkright
16:04.21mindfunkwhat are the coords of the lab?
16:04.28mindfunkTheCollector: ^^
16:04.50TheCollectorb-1000
16:05.40gramhttps://omapsw-wiki.sc.ti.com/omapwiki/LabIPAddresses
16:09.32mindfunkso... yeah... I want finwe to resolve over there
16:09.48gramyeah, i was just pointing out our cool lab names.
16:10.05mindfunkdude... been done before
16:10.09gram:p
16:10.40TheCollectorbut since finwe is a desktop machine, it has to fit into the G.I. Joe/Cobra scheme, not Transformers
16:13.31TheCollectorso I finally saw Blade Runner on Saturday
16:13.39mindfunkwhich version?
16:13.46TheCollectorI think it was the origional
16:13.52mindfunkwas it on regular tv (with commercials?)
16:14.00TheCollectorthere was some narration by Harrison ford
16:14.03TheCollectoryeah, it was
16:14.10mindfunkI cought some of that too
16:14.16mindfunkyeah, it was the original
16:14.23mindfunkthey cut some parts though
16:14.25TheCollectorI fell asleep during part of it =\
16:14.52TheCollectorbut the bit that I saw was good
16:14.59TheCollectors/bit/bits
16:15.09mindfunkya gotta see the whole thing man
16:15.28TheCollectoryeah - some other time when I'm not dog-tired
16:16.08mindfunktsowell: so... we got a dog this weekend, and we are probably going to name him tom
16:16.17mindfunkfor Tom Bombadil
16:16.24TheCollectorcool
16:16.27TheCollectorwhat kind?
16:17.20mindfunkit's a mutt... but it is like mostly some breed I never heard of
16:17.27TheCollectorah
16:17.38tsowellmindfunk: goot choice
16:18.37Wingnutlunch?
16:19.25tsowellpoll: big risers or tiny risers?
16:20.01TheCollectorbig
16:20.07grami say little...
16:20.08tsowelltiny
16:20.11gramfor aerodynamics
16:20.34TheCollectorbig, for off-road capability
16:20.40mindfunklunch sounds good
16:22.41tsowelllittle, for insulation
16:23.00TheCollectorbig, in case the lab gets flooded
16:24.13mindfunkWingnut: gather the gnuts for lunch
16:24.20Wingnutk
16:24.23mindfunkand head over here
16:24.29TheCollectorgnuts?
16:24.39tsowellyeah, GNU enthusiasts
16:24.45mindfunkyou guys are nutcases...
16:24.46tsowellwingnut is a Win GNU enthusiast
16:24.59TheCollectorwow....
16:26.19TheCollector*sigh* its amazing how fast banks can process transactions that take money out of my account, and how damn slow they are to process transactions that put money in
16:26.45mindfunkTheCollector: get an account at texins
16:27.03TheCollectoryeah, will do with next check
16:27.20TheCollectorthis one is all going to rent + cable + elec.
16:27.30TheCollectorfucking bills...
16:27.47mindfunkdude... if you only knew
16:28.04TheCollectoryeah, i know... it's only going to get worse
16:29.35mindfunkwell, my wife makes matters worse
16:29.51TheCollectorgood thing I don't have one of those too
16:35.11TheCollectorboo at Apple looking at using x86 (Intel, even) in their stuff
17:47.39prpplagueanyone heard anymore about tim's job status?
17:47.55mindfunkprpplague: um... I know he is looking, that is about it
17:56.20tsowellodd.. the ES2.05 is obviously faster (according to my eyes) but I'm getting lower framerates...
18:05.09tsowellmindfunk: mind if I steal your other board too?
18:05.20tsowelllike, the one I gave you in trade?
18:05.37mindfunkI need at least 1 h4
18:05.50mindfunkthere are like, 10 of them in the lab?
18:05.59mindfunkor are you going to give the 2.05 back?
18:06.00tsowellyeah, but I like that one
18:06.06tsowellno, I like this one too
18:06.32mindfunkwhat is special about this one?
18:06.38tsowellit has small legs
18:13.20mindfunkcommie
18:15.07tsowellhow so?
18:16.13mindfunkso... you are going after "tail" boards Mao style
18:16.27tsowellI'm just helping it fit in
18:16.44mindfunkby making them all equal... commie
18:17.14tsowelland anyway, it was causing health problems.  did you know this board had a nubbin??
18:17.21tsowell~spell nubbin
18:17.29mindfunk~dict nubbin
18:18.29mindfunkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nubbin
18:19.19tsowellnubbin (2):  A small stunted or projecting part.
18:19.29mindfunkhttp://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=nubbin&x=0&y=0
18:19.48mindfunkso... it's a male h4
18:19.54mindfunkthe others are female
18:19.54tsowellwell
18:20.01tsowellI held it down while mike removed it with pliers
18:20.13mindfunkAH!!!
18:20.25tsowelljust like all the other phallic symbols you had desecrated your board with
18:21.42tsowellyou would
18:35.36mindfunkgram: do you know the proper what to modify the @INC path for perl cgi?
18:35.49mindfunkis there a path somewhere in httpd.conf?
18:36.14mindfunkscratch that... nm
18:44.31mindfunktsowell:
18:44.37mindfunkI moved the apache root
18:44.37tsowellmindfunk:
18:44.46mindfunkwhat are you trying to do?
18:44.46tsowellwow, I noticed like 30 seconds ago
18:44.50mindfunkright...
18:44.57tsowellquit spying on me
18:45.00mindfunkI happened to be looking at the apache logs
18:45.11tsowelloh, right, it was totally coincidental
18:45.16mindfunkhehe
18:45.30mindfunkno... I just sit here and watch the apache logs all day
18:45.40tsowellI wouldn't put it past you...
18:45.56mindfunkcommie
18:46.12tsowellyou're one to talk, mr secret police
18:48.22mindfunkmore like tsowellthepinko
18:49.50tsowellmore like yourfacethepinko
18:51.35RedWhiteAndBlue-hah
18:52.05mindfunkTheCollector: sweet.. the submission bug is fixed... TheCollector pls submit your results so we can test some stuff out
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18:52.24RedWhiteAndBlue-TheCollector: don't do it.  you can't trust him
18:52.26TheCollectorkthnxbye
18:53.10mindfunkhave you heard the parody of rush limbaugh called "My Drugs are Red White and Blue"
18:53.42RedWhiteAndBlue-why won't you just give freedom a chance for once?
18:54.02mindfunkdoublespeak from the commie ^^
18:54.11Wingnutmeeting time?
18:54.25mindfunkwe still have a few minutes...
18:54.27mindfunkTheCollector: ping
18:54.32RedWhiteAndBlue-I need to go grab a pen
18:54.46mindfunka red pen, perhaps?
18:55.03TheCollectorpong
18:55.17mindfunkTheCollector: submit the results real quick ;)
18:55.28TheCollectordid it
18:55.37TheCollectortime for meeting
18:55.45mindfunkdude...
18:55.59mindfunkso, other people are going to see that....
18:56.13mindfunkwas going to show it to bill...
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20:52.38TheCollectordamn testquest keys...
20:52.58TheCollectormindfunk: how many keys do you have?
21:03.53mindfunk1
21:50.54kergoth`bblmy luggage is full of dishes, pots, pans, and alcohol, and clothes will be used as packing material in the car, between the cracks
21:50.57kergoth`bblheh :)
21:51.45Croftoncool
21:52.06Croftondid you ever get around to washing the dishes?
21:52.27kergoth`bblyeah, but not before the movers came :(
21:52.31kergoth`bblhence them being in my luggage
21:52.44Croftonyeah, I remember the moving day
21:52.59kergoth`bblhehe
21:53.02CroftonI was wondering if you ending up tosing them in the car dirty :)
21:53.16kergoth`bbli should have had the movers bring my alcohol, i didnt even think about that
21:53.22kergoth`bblthen today i find a half full box of books in the closet
21:56.29prpplaguekergoth`bbl: all set to move?
21:56.43kergoth`bblprpplague: just about, just figuring out what to leave here
21:59.59kergoth`bblprpplague: the apartment is going to be just full of crap, they'll have their work cut out for them cleaning up :P
22:00.48prpplaguekergoth`bbl: hehe, gonna loose your deposit
22:00.59kergoth`bblprpplague: they didnt charge me one, got a deal when i got the place
22:01.00kergoth`bbl;)
22:01.01prpplaguehehe, seems everyone is bugging out of dfw
22:01.34prpplaguekergoth`bbl: you don't know of a platform that has a gpio matrix for keypad do you?
22:02.10kergoth`bblnot offhand.  there are a crapload of matrix keyboards, but cant think of one that uses gpios for it off hte top of my head
22:05.03prpplaguekergoth`bbl: yea thats what i'm finding
22:38.54TimRikerI've worked on a few that did, but I don't recall any that shipped that way. ;-/
22:39.43prpplagueTimRiker: bummer
22:41.05TheCollectormindfunk: what's the deal with the disco ball?
22:44.29TheCollectorprpplague: how about them gumstix embedded devices?
22:44.55prpplagueTheCollector: hmm, i've not seen a keyboard matrix with them, have you?
22:45.05TheCollectorno
22:45.27TheCollectorbut actually, I was referring to your lack of luck with them
22:45.51RedWhiteAndBlue-prpplague: could always do it in software...
22:45.52TheCollectorI was talking about them, & mindfunk said you had crappy luck with em
22:45.55prpplagueTheCollector: yea. i had some horrible experience with them
22:46.24prpplagueRedWhiteAndBlue-: yea, thats what i'm doing, i just wanted a reference
22:46.45kergoth`bblheh
22:46.45kergoth`bbli bet zach welch's articles/rants on gumstix are still online somewhere
22:47.04prpplaguekergoth`bbl: he got a cease and decest so he gave up and took them down
22:47.11kergoth`bblaw
22:47.37prpplaguekergoth`bbl: you know he had a collapsed lunch and after that he just didn't care to fight them anymore
22:47.45prpplagueargh, lung
22:48.46prpplagueTheCollector: note: the comapny i work for will soon have a product that is the same area as the gumstix
22:49.01prpplagueTheCollector: is there something specific you were looking to do?
22:49.04TheCollectorcool
22:49.33TheCollectornot really; tsowell & I were discussing embedded devices
22:49.52TheCollectorI've got a tuxscreen that will suffice for my plans
22:49.58kergoth`bblheh
22:50.03kergoth`bblmy tux is still in the box tomw shipped it to me in
22:50.12RedWhiteAndBlue-yeah, I can't find an SBC that fits my needs.  thinking about purchasing TheCollector's borked mp3 player
22:50.23prpplagueTheCollector: are you planning to remove the guts and use it for a project?
22:51.00TheCollectorprpplague: yeah, it's gonna be a wifi/mp3 && ogg player/ maybe gps device for my truck
22:51.20prpplagueTheCollector: hehe, you'd like our new product then
22:51.31kergoth`bblheh, just buy an old zaurus and hook  it up to gps via serial and call it done :P
22:51.31RedWhiteAndBlue-prpplague: what is it?
22:51.35TheCollectorgot any links?
22:51.36prpplagueTheCollector: won't be available for about another 60 days though
22:51.58TheCollectorkergoth`bbl: the zaurus is too expensive for me
22:52.02TimRikerprpplague: send me one when they are. ;-)
22:52.05TheCollectorI alrready have a tuxscreen
22:52.09prpplagueall i can say is its based on the lh79520, its designed for hobbists, and it runs linux
22:52.23TheCollectorprpplague: sounds cool
22:52.30kergoth`bblthe tux isnt exactly a great performer, but good luck
22:52.51TimRikerstill tough to beat for $99 though. ;-)
22:52.57kergoth`bblno doubt
22:53.04TheCollectorkergoth`bbl: from talking w/ TimRiker, it should be able to handle the mp3/ogg decoding
22:53.14kergoth`bblthough nowadays you can probably get a 5500 or ipaq 36xx for $150 or so
22:53.21prpplagueyea, the whole kit will be around $189
22:53.27mindfunkTheCollector: please submit all your test results
22:53.33TheCollectorand the wifi will be for rsyncing music, ocasional wardriving ;-)
22:53.36TimRiker~test
22:53.37jbotOh, no! There's a test and I haven't studied!
22:53.37TheCollectormindfunk: k
22:53.42kergoth`bblhehe
22:53.43RedWhiteAndBlue-prpplague: hard disk interfacE?
22:53.56prpplagueRedWhiteAndBlue-: sd/mmc via spi
22:54.04TheCollectorthe nice thing about the tuxscreen is the IDE interface
22:54.07kergoth`bbl~yow
22:54.09prpplagueRedWhiteAndBlue-: but you could implement ide easily
22:54.58prpplagueRedWhiteAndBlue-: uh tuxscreen doesn't have a native ide support
22:55.02TimRikerTheCollector: well, it's not a real ide interface.
22:55.15prpplaguesorry that was for you TheCollector
22:55.33TheCollectorTimRiker: oh, I thought it was...
22:55.39TimRikerTomw ran an ide drive on it. I use CF cards in one of the pcmcia slots.
22:55.56TheCollectorbut I'll be able to throw a laptop HD in there, right?
22:56.00TimRikerTomW put up his schematic someplace to get an IDE drive working.
22:56.09prpplagueTheCollector: uh not with tomw's hack
22:56.18TheCollectorsucks
22:56.23prpplaguewww.cyberiansoftware.com
22:56.26TimRikerpcmcia or cf card would be a better option.
22:56.54TheCollectordang - I don't have a 20GB microdrive =\
22:57.08prpplaguehehe
22:57.24prpplagueTheCollector: you can bitbang an ide interface via gpios easily
22:57.25TimRikerthere are pcmcia/ide cards that should work. I've not used them though. largest udrive I know of is the 4G.
22:57.46TimRikerprpplague: yeah. that's basically what TomW did from what I hear.
22:58.28TheCollectorprpplague: he did the pcmcia -> ide thing?
22:58.50prpplagueTheCollector: no, bitbang ide
22:58.57TheCollectorah
22:59.46prpplaguewith a cpld to do some address latching
23:00.08prpplagueTimRiker: this project is eating on my, i'm so far behind on the keypad and fb
23:00.13prpplagues/my/me
23:00.51prpplagueTimRiker: everything is working except those two and its like they are cursed
23:01.29TimRikerprpplague: bummer. timing is a pain, huh?
23:02.11prpplagueyea
23:02.38prpplaguei figured since we'd used this lcd before that the calculations would be good for this board, but no......
23:02.50TimRikerTheCollector: also note that the tux pcmcia slots are just that... pcmcia. no cardbus.
23:03.19prpplagueand are at 3.3v
23:03.35TimRikeryeah, but a 5v hack is pretty easy soldering.
23:04.09TimRikergetting cardbus is not. would be easier to just build a new system.
23:04.14prpplaguehehe
23:04.32TheCollectorbah - who wants thos extra 16 bits anyways ;-)
23:05.21TheCollectormindfunk: how long should it take those submitted test results to show up?
23:05.34TheCollectoralso, I need the number off of your TQ key
23:05.56prpplaguehehe
23:09.38TheCollector~pester mindfunk
23:09.39jbotmindfunk: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet?  see http://beverlys.net/LJ/BuggingYou.swf
23:10.42TheCollectorprpplague: so is this tomw fellow still around?
23:15.44Wingnutmindfunk: have you heard anything about that X10 switch?
23:17.22mindfunknow... it's in route... they used the USPS
23:17.54mindfunkactually, all the boards connected to finwe should be using them
23:18.35mindfunkWingnut: actually, if you could, use it on the main board now
23:18.44mindfunklike... quickly
23:18.53mindfunkbefore the tests start running
23:18.55mindfunkWingnut: ping
23:19.26mindfunkby use it, I mean attach use it as a plug
23:19.35mindfunker... you know what I mean
23:19.47mindfunkTheCollector: don't forget about the framebuffer tests
23:22.47TheCollectork
23:23.11TheCollectoris it ok if those get done tomorrow?
23:23.15mindfunkTheCollector: could you attach the x10 switches to the board above mike
23:23.25Wingnuton thpong
23:23.27mindfunkTheCollector: use the one with the antenna
23:23.27Wingnutone sec
23:23.50Wingnutready for me to disconnect the board?
23:23.52mindfunkTheCollector: http://swerve.sc.ti.com/
23:24.00mindfunkWingnut: yeah... I killed the tests...
23:24.54TheCollectoris it set to 'k'?
23:25.20mindfunkTheCollector:
23:25.22mindfunkTheCollector: http://swerve.sc.ti.com/
23:26.19TheCollectormindfunk: what about the ground for the cord? the switch only has 2 prong interface
23:26.48TheCollectordid you just rip out the gound pin?
23:26.51mindfunksome of them have 3
23:27.15mindfunkuse one of the ones with 3
23:27.16TheCollectorwell apparently we have none w/ antennas && 3 prong interface
23:27.40mindfunkwell, just plug the antenna one in, and use the 3 pronged one on the board
23:27.56tsowellokay
23:28.17mindfunkthey have to be on the same channel
23:28.41TheCollectordamnit - my bank still hasnt given me credit for the check i deposited @ 9:15
23:28.49TheCollectorwhat channel? k?
23:28.56mindfunkthat's fine
23:29.01Wingnuttry it
23:29.31mindfunkbrb
23:29.36TheCollectork
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23:32.51TheCollectorwb, jjg
23:33.10jjgtx
23:39.02TheCollectorprpplague: ping
23:41.02TheCollector~lart BankOne
23:43.22mindfunkTheCollector: it looks like the submissions are broken again... hold off...
23:43.51mindfunkah... because finwe.sc.ti.com is not resolving correctly
23:46.17TheCollectoryou and your hard-coded stuff
23:47.14mindfunkactually, I'm not responsible for that
23:47.22TheCollectorsure
23:47.40TheCollectoryou need me to upload that stuff tonight?
23:47.49TheCollectorcause if not, I'm heading home
23:47.51mindfunkTheCollector: I just realized something... we are probably going to have to go through the config issues as well
23:47.59TheCollectori see
23:48.01mindfunkTheCollector: it's be nice, yeah
23:48.19mindfunkTheCollector: that is going to be sooooo painful
23:48.28mindfunkwe might bring in gram or pmw
23:48.39TheCollectorgram
23:48.43gramconfig issues?
23:48.53mindfunkwith some of the ltp testgs
23:48.55mindfunktests
23:49.05mindfunkI'll talk to bill
23:49.13mindfunkonly work on the failures for now
23:49.13TheCollectork
23:50.13TheCollectorso about how long until the submissions bug will be fixed? (just asking)
23:50.25mindfunklike... soon
23:50.38mindfunkso... prolly before next week?
23:50.46mindfunkare you still working on the 6.1 qual?
23:51.46prpplagueTheCollector: pong
23:51.48TheCollectormindfunk: its in the queue
23:51.55mindfunk?
23:52.02mindfunkok
23:52.03mindfunknm
23:52.25TheCollectorprpplague: does this TomW fellow frequent freenode?
23:52.41prpplagueTheCollector: #elinux
23:53.05prpplague~seen T0mW
23:53.08jbott0mw is currently on #elinux.  Has said a total of 9 messages.  Is idling for 9h 57m 19s
23:54.17TheCollectorah - didn't know whois is case sensitive
23:54.53TheCollectorthanks

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