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02:36.25WingnutI've got dbus running on the H4...
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02:53.25WingnutTimRiker: heard anything from George Martin?
02:54.30TimRikeryeah. "you'd probably be a better fit for the CTO office"
02:54.55Wingnuttrue, but that doesn't solve the immediate problem
02:58.05TimRikerI'm very close to accepting another offer at this point. TI just can't seem to commit to plans that lead to real market growth.
02:58.18Wingnuthehe...that's cause there isn't a customer requesting market growth ;)
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14:08.02prpplaguehttp://www.mobileburn.com/review.jsp?Id=1376
14:11.23TheCollectorhooray OMAP
14:30.18mindfunkheh... it's PET
14:30.57TheCollectorah, the nokia thing?
14:31.21CroftonNow I know why this is the channel for #pet refugees
14:48.12mindfunkWingnut: what are the specs on the new underbox?
14:48.39mindfunkWingnut: do you think it is sufficient for production?
14:49.38mindfunkWingnut: I vaguely remember you saying you can have two different people logged on to the windows box, running TQ at the same time, with the same key...
14:49.47mindfunk~pester Wingnut
14:49.48jbotWingnut: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet?  see http://beverlys.net/LJ/BuggingYou.swf
14:50.20mindfunkWingnut: is that true, and if so, could we benefit from a multiproc machine to speed up nightly testing?
14:52.53TheCollectormindfunk: he isnt in yet
15:03.11mindfunkk
15:05.45TheCollectoryay - ISO auditors should hit the lab today
15:06.50mindfunkhehe
15:07.15mindfunkTheCollector: um... that could be a good thing... it could just be planning
15:07.57TheCollectorplanning? bill thinks I'll stick around until I graduate? Not unless they pay me fair wages, man...
15:08.45TheCollectortiming web-page load times w/ a stopwatch for $16.60/hr sounds damn good some days
15:13.31TheCollector~lart ltp
15:13.44mindfunkTheCollector: how is the ltp stuff progressing
15:13.54mindfunkTheCollector: knocked any tests off the list?
15:14.06mindfunkTheCollector: do you know if mike is comming in today?
15:14.14mindfunkTheCollector: who all is in the lab
15:14.15mindfunk?
15:14.23TheCollectornot yet - I'm adding the printf to all the stuff & will compile later
15:14.27TheCollectormike isnt in
15:14.36TheCollectorkumi is the only other one here
15:15.18mindfunkTheCollector: ok... I'm going to try and get some ats stuff done.... pls... pls... pls... try and dispose of some of those tests
15:15.28TheCollectorI'm working on it
15:15.35mindfunkTheCollector: knock off some of the easy ones first if you can
15:15.40TheCollectork
15:15.53mindfunkTheCollector: I'm sure some of them have got to be of questionable relavence
15:16.14mindfunkalso, take notes on each test case
15:16.20TheCollectork
15:34.01TheCollectormindfunk: you said nishant thinks the shmt0x tests are a baseport bug?
15:34.24TheCollectors/tests/test failures/
15:34.32mindfunkyeah
15:34.38TheCollectork
15:35.26mindfunkspecifically, passing 0x8000 as the 2nd param to shmat should work
15:35.40mindfunkTheCollector: not, I dunno if all the tests do that...
15:35.50TheCollectork - I'll check
15:36.17TheCollectorbut the 2nd param should be a multiple of 0x4000, right?
15:36.27mindfunkuh... 0x1000
15:36.31TheCollectorok
15:36.59TheCollectorman vicente fox is a jerk
15:37.16mindfunksetfsgid03 is one of the ones that is hanging
15:37.31mindfunkthere is a test bug, and a bug in the OS IMHO
15:38.33mindfunkTheCollector: also, please resumbit your test results... the page works now
15:38.36TheCollectormindfunk: setfsgid03 just passed for me
15:38.39TheCollectork
15:39.13mindfunkTheCollector: there is a bug, the schedular went down and did not notify the DB... the web page should report it if the server goes down
15:39.58mindfunkwell, you gotta find out why it is hanging in the harness
15:40.02mindfunkdo this:
15:40.12mindfunkmodify ltp's run file
15:40.24mindfunkand just run that test through ltp
15:40.36mindfunkif it passes, add a few of the tests before it
15:41.02TheCollectork
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15:43.41mindfunkWingnut: what time are we leaving?
15:44.07tsowellkicks a-atwood
15:44.09tsoweller
15:44.13tsowellwhat I meant to say was
15:44.17mindfunkno... that was right
15:44.22tsowell<PROTECTED>
15:44.41TheCollectorman, there's that IRC bug again...
15:44.45tsowellhey mark, let's go to Texins after lunch today
15:45.02mindfunk?? the credit union?
15:45.04mindfunkfor what?
15:45.10tsowellthe recreational center
15:45.15mindfunkfor what?
15:45.23tsowellto get new badges
15:45.25tsowellit'll be fun
15:45.30mindfunkno... it won't
15:45.37mindfunkand I have work to do
15:45.39tsowellmaybe if you're lame
15:45.50mindfunkthe receptionist should be able to order the new badges
15:45.56mindfunkyou shouldn't have to go down there
15:46.15tsowellthe receptionist gave me a temporary badge
15:46.21tsowelland didn't mention ordering a new one...
15:46.28mindfunkwell, ask
15:46.39TheCollectorthe new receptionist is kinda a bitch - she never says anything when I say "hi" or "good morning"
15:46.48TheCollectorI wouldn't wanna talk to her
15:46.49mindfunkso what
15:46.56tsowellI miss the previous receptionist
15:47.00tsowellshe looked like Peggy Hill
15:47.01mindfunkI didn't ask if you wanted to...
15:47.01TheCollectorshe was cool
15:47.15tsowellyeah
15:47.24mindfunkyou know there is more than one receptionist in this building right?
15:47.32tsowellno way.. get outta here
15:47.43TheCollectorbit the one in the nort lobby is the only one we interact with
15:48.12mindfunkdude... I don't give a rats ass... ask them to order a new one for you
15:48.49mindfunkif they can't, it's probably becuase the paperwork isn't done, and going to texans won't solve anything
15:49.37mindfunktsowell: the receptionist doesn't say hello because you are a commie
15:49.44mindfunkso... stop being a commie
15:54.36mindfunk~pester Wingnut
15:54.37jbotWingnut: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet?  see http://beverlys.net/LJ/BuggingYou.swf
15:54.38mindfunknm
15:54.52tsowellyeah, that's what I thought
15:55.10TheCollectorso the latest issue of 2600 has a nice article on hacking Cisco 7960 VoIP phones
15:55.20mindfunkoooh
15:55.40TheCollectoryou can change the images on the screen & some other stuff
15:55.51tsowellhacking?  are you guys terrorists?
15:56.43TheCollectordude, she works at a hospitak\l
15:57.02mindfunkTheCollector: the FBI doesn't let commies work for them
15:57.16TheCollectorare you calling my mom a commie?
15:57.20tsowellmindfunk is from the KGB
15:57.42mindfunkyou and your FUD
15:58.00tsowelloh, you're one to talk about FUD
15:58.10TheCollectoryour mom talks about FUD
15:59.52TheCollectormindfunk: you should especially bow down to your foreign corporate masters
16:00.50TheCollectorare we doing posix realtime extensions in 11.x?
16:03.17TheCollector~pester mindfunk
16:03.18jbotmindfunk: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet?  see http://beverlys.net/LJ/BuggingYou.swf
16:13.36mindfunkTheCollector: we were doing rt for 5.x, but not for 11.x, iirc
16:13.42TheCollectork
16:21.02tsowellwho isn't?
16:21.09mindfunkyour mom
16:21.50TheCollectormindfunk: you sure are playing our game well for hating it si much ;)
16:21.57TheCollectors/si/so
16:25.27TheCollectornope, we don't
16:26.51TheCollectorI thought executions were pretty simple ordeals >_>
16:27.07mindfunk~shmat TheCollector
16:27.09jbotACTION attaches TheCollector to his address space, violently
16:27.35mindfunk~emulate ash
16:27.37jbotShop smart.  Shop s-mart.
16:28.27tsowellcheck out this one..
16:28.30tsowell~emulate glibc
16:28.31jbot[emulate glibc] I know better than the kernel.. let's not waste its time with this system call
16:30.39TheCollectordang, I can't sync my brain to the comp.... yet
16:30.49tsowell~emulate bzflag
16:30.50jbotACTION sits hacking on blootbot, bzflag, tuxscreen, eLinux, and many other projects and mutters "Patches Welcome!"
16:30.59tsowellodd
16:31.02tsowell~emulate TimRiker
16:31.03jbotACTION pwns tsowell
16:31.09tsowelloops
16:31.22tsowell~literal TimRiker
16:31.23jbot"timriker" is "my owner http://rikers.org/ mailto:Tim@Rikers.org mailto:TimR@Debian.org mailto:Tim@TI.com maintainer of BZFlag, member of a ton of open source projects http://www.advogato.com/person/timriker/ http://sourceforge.net/users/timriker/ the guy who GPL'd SCO's ABI files, giving every Linux user the right to use them ;-), or a very cool person, or and ...
16:31.32tsowell~literal emulate TimRiker
16:31.33jbot"emulate timriker" is "<reply> see emulate bzflag"
16:31.36tsowellahhhh
16:31.48TheCollectorwhere the hell is Wingnut?
16:31.54mindfunktraining
16:32.02mindfunkTheCollector: you lied to me, btw
16:32.07TheCollectorhuh?
16:32.20mindfunkyou told me he wasn't here... and he is
16:32.25mindfunkso... you lied
16:32.29TheCollectoris he really in training?
16:32.36mindfunkyeah
16:32.47TheCollectoroh
16:32.48tsowellI told you
16:32.53tsowellbut you kept saying he was gone
16:33.08TheCollectorwell, he hasnt been in the lab yet today
16:33.12TheCollectorsorry
16:33.45TheCollectori'll try to be less ingnt
16:34.31mindfunkTheCollector: any ltp progress?
16:35.17TheCollectoryeah, a little
16:41.08TheCollectorhehe, gethostid01 passes if you turn off functional testing
16:41.21mindfunk?
16:41.27mindfunkhow do you turn that off?
16:41.33mindfunkwhat do you mean?
16:41.37TheCollector./gethostid01 -f
16:42.01mindfunkwell, presumably, the test is without
16:42.18mindfunktype 'host' on the board... j/c
16:42.34TheCollector-sh: host: not found
16:58.09tsowellcafeteria?
16:59.46gramdoes anybody want to wait for like 20 minutes?
16:59.55TheCollectorsure
17:00.07grambe there in a just a bit then.
17:00.14TheCollectork
17:01.08TheCollectorheh
17:16.59Wingnutok, meetings are over
17:17.04Wingnutlunch and surplus?
17:18.16TheCollectorGvzEvxre: lunch and surplus?
17:23.09tsowellt
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19:52.50mindfunkso... james hymel moved offices
19:52.56tsowellto where?
19:53.14mindfunka couple doors down from biggeetha
19:53.28mindfunkremember the prathibha theory?
19:53.30tsowellI thought he was always there...
19:53.53tsowellI bet James can ask Geetha for us
19:54.12mindfunkno, he was in a walled office, but one of the lesser walled offices
19:54.20tsowellahh
20:03.05mindfunkTheCollector: the two tests that are hanging: setfsguid03 and setfsuid03
20:03.14mindfunkforgot about the 2nd one
20:04.00TheCollectork
20:04.05tsowellit forgot about you
20:05.45mindfunkTheCollector: oh yeah... did I mention you can enter your results now?
20:05.56TheCollectoruhh, yeah, I think so
20:06.01TheCollectorthey're heading to finwe
20:06.04mindfunk...
20:08.33TheCollectorso, they arent showing up again
20:08.47mindfunkone sec
20:11.07mindfunkTheCollector: dude... just submitted
20:11.47TheCollectorfine. lemme do it again
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20:23.33grammindfunk: do you use a certain label to get ltp from clearcase?
20:34.19mindfunkwell, more than one
20:34.25mindfunkI'll mail the CS
20:35.56mindfunkgram: what is your addy?
20:36.47mindfunk~pester gram
20:36.49jbotgram: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet?  see http://beverlys.net/LJ/BuggingYou.swf
20:37.53grammindfunk: graham@ti.com
20:44.06TheCollectormindfunk: so none of my entries have been displayed on atc...
20:49.21tsowell~lart mindfunk
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20:50.22mindfunkheh
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20:50.33tsowell~whaleslap mindfunk
20:50.34jbotACTION slaps mindfunk upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh
20:50.47TheCollectorat tsowell
21:04.28Wingnutmindfunk: ping
21:08.36Wingnutanyone have examples of poor support from Montavista?
21:09.15mindfunkWingnut: pong
21:09.27Wingnutgot a good example of poor MV support?
21:09.35mindfunkWingnut: personally, just the thing about the config files
21:09.46mindfunkKieth has a lot though
21:09.56mindfunkoh... also
21:10.16mindfunkthere was this LTP defect that they wouldn't fix really
21:10.27mindfunka defect in their code that is
21:10.44mindfunkoh yeah, they don't deliver free liquor to my house
21:10.50Wingnuthehe
21:23.14TheCollectorman, whoever wrote profil01 should be shot - this shit is unreadable
21:23.24tsowellI bet mark wrote it
21:23.27tsowellI think I saw him writing
21:23.28tsowellit
21:26.02TheCollectorblade runner makes me think of the game beneath a steel sky
21:35.34mindfunkhow does testmonger sound for the name of the test harness?
21:35.46TimRikersalvage stuff this week: http://rikers.org/gallery/hardware-20050525
21:36.19mindfunkheh... we were just there...
21:38.58mindfunkI hope you didn't bid on the tablets
21:50.46grammindfunk: the ltp you and TheCollector are using isn't from clearcase, is it?
21:53.31mindfunkTheCollector: do you have javascript enabled on your browser?
21:53.37TheCollectorya
21:53.40mindfunkgram: it is
21:54.02mindfunkTheCollector: well... the submission works for me...
21:54.14mindfunkTheCollector: try again, and I'll look at the logs
21:54.21TheCollectorgrrr
21:54.21mindfunkTheCollector: use today's date/timne
21:54.26TheCollectork
21:54.46gramfor me, in ClearCase, the head of the ChangeLog says "LTP-20040707"
21:54.47TimRikermindfunk: I didn't bid on anything. did you guys?
21:57.03mindfunkyeah... there was a palette with some tablet PCs on it...
21:57.21mindfunkit's been a long day
21:57.43mindfunkdude... just get it done, and it will be over
21:57.44a-atwoodmindfunk: if you need to "store" a tablet PC, let me know
21:58.08a-atwoodTheCollector: leaving?
21:58.20mindfunkwell, I can think of somewhere to shov^h^h^h^h store it...
21:58.28TheCollectorno, but some days I wish I was...
21:58.58a-atwoodTheCollector: get used to it.  That is known as "work".
21:59.29mindfunkin all fairness, this does suck more than work normally does... but it doesn't suck as bad as TQ
21:59.41TheCollectora-atwood: I'm used to working - I been doing it sonce i was 16. I'd just like to get normal pay for what I do
21:59.43mindfunkand you could be doing that all day
22:00.27TheCollectoryeah, but when I'm doing TQ I can talk w/ marco & *sometimes* the stuff actually gets fixed
22:01.41a-atwoodTheCollector: but you're still in school, right?  I woulda KILLED to intern at TI while I was in school
22:02.21a-atwoodnothing like having a pre-padded resume when you graduate.
22:03.25TheCollectora-atwood: granted, I'm thankful that I have the job, but when you have friends who get paid +$6.60/hr to test web-pages, its kinda frustrating
22:03.28grammindfunk: for me, in ClearCase, the head of the ChangeLog says "LTP-20040707"
22:04.51TheCollectorerm, the +$6.60/hr is the delta b/w what I make & what he makes
22:04.59mindfunkTheCollector: also, I have a friend that was a communications major... she got nothing for her internship and still had to come up with living expenses on her own
22:05.14TheCollectorthat sucks
22:05.23mindfunkgram: there is more than 1 ltp in CC
22:05.33TheCollectorin all honesty, I suppose I'm pretty spoiled
22:05.50TheCollectorso i'm gonna shut up now
22:05.59mindfunkright... actually, I think most internships don't pay
22:06.10mindfunkCS majors have it good
22:06.11grammindfunk: i only see the one path.
22:06.28gramits /vobs/wtbu/OMAPSW_LT/test/kernel/opensrc/ltp, right?
22:06.30a-atwoodTheCollector: yeah, but right out of college spent a couple years in operations making < $10/hr. (20 years ago, tho)
22:06.54mindfunkgram: you prolly need to change your config spec to see the other one
22:07.03gramto what you sent me?
22:07.08TheCollector~lart uncommented code
22:07.12gramthat's what i'm using.
22:07.33mindfunkgram: that is the CS for the one that brian is running
22:08.08gramTheCollector's is ltp-20050405
22:09.56mindfunkah
22:10.08mindfunkyou can get that off main/latest
22:10.19gramoh, ok.
22:10.23mindfunkit should not be there, but it is
22:10.56gramis it on the integration branch, or...?
22:13.08mindfunkTheCollector: progress
22:13.08mindfunk?
22:13.16TheCollectorits coming along
22:13.20WingnutTheCollector is considering living without the internet...
22:15.19mindfunkTheCollector: you think you'll be done today?
22:15.27TheCollectorit would be a damn good way to save ~$60 a month...
22:15.31TheCollectormindfunk: yeah, i will
22:18.19mindfunkTheCollector: are you gonna have to stay late?
22:18.36TheCollectoryeah
22:18.46mindfunkhow late?
22:18.51TheCollectordunno
22:19.09mindfunkTheCollector: how many tests have gone through?
22:21.19TheCollectorthere's at least 9 we can flat out nix, 4 that are problems w/ kernel headers/glibc
22:21.43TheCollectorI've gone through more than that, but havent made a call on them
22:22.41mindfunkhow many total?
22:22.43mindfunk33?
22:22.56mindfunkgram: how many have you done?
22:23.00TheCollectorno - then I'd almost be finished
22:23.01gramnone, yet.
22:23.09TheCollectorI'd say about 20 or so
22:23.25mindfunkno... how many total failures? 33?
22:23.32TheCollector35
22:23.43mindfunkgram: you are helping him? or no?
22:25.25grami'm working on getting it set up.
22:41.26mindfunkTheCollector: two problems with iogen01, both of them config problems with the test
22:41.39mindfunk1. it sets LTPROOT to nothing
22:41.45mindfunk2. ash V bash
22:41.59TheCollector~lart ash
22:42.03mindfunkit will be fixed when keith produces a test package
22:42.12mindfunkso... that one is done
22:42.21TheCollectorcool
23:31.16mindfunkTheCollector: sigaltstack01 is a header file problem primarily, but there is also a testbug
23:34.43TheCollectormindfunk: thanks
23:40.28mindfunk~spell pnuemonic
23:40.39mindfunk~spell nuemonic
23:40.43TheCollector2nd one, i think
23:40.56mindfunk~spell neumonic
23:41.07grammnemonic
23:41.11mindfunkk
23:41.22mindfunkwait
23:41.28mindfunk~dict mnemonic
23:41.36mindfunkyup
23:45.02mindfunkTheCollector: DR opened... I'm outta here
23:45.39mindfunkTheCollector: I'll be on later though...
23:45.48TheCollectork, & thanks for the help
23:46.22mindfunkyou make any further progress?
23:47.14mindfunkcrap... the kids will be asleep by the time I get home
23:49.14prpplaguemindfunk: thats normally something to party about
23:49.16prpplague:D

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