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13:10.14 | a-atwood | morning. |
13:25.19 | TheCollector | 'morning, a-atwood |
14:16.59 | pmw | TheCollector: Jeez, you leave work at midnight, and you're back in 8 hours? |
14:21.30 | prpplague | thats not so bad |
14:21.36 | prpplague | i used to work those hours |
14:23.29 | pmw | Is there a way to transfer a currently-running job to another terminal without restarting it? |
14:24.44 | pmw | (I'm using bash.) |
14:25.12 | prpplague | seems like there is however i've never had need for it |
14:25.56 | pmw | The reason I'm trying to do it is that I am running a very long-lived job in a plain GUI terminal, and I'd like to place it inside of "screen". |
14:34.26 | mindfunk | pmw: um... I'm trying to remember the name of the command that does that... |
14:34.36 | mindfunk | ... it's like xattach or something |
14:34.57 | mindfunk | pmw: or is it not an X app? |
14:35.13 | mindfunk | pmw: if it is not, try and run it in a screen to begin with |
14:35.54 | mindfunk | prpplague && TheCollector: aye... also used to work those hours |
14:36.40 | TheCollector | pmw: its not that bad |
14:36.42 | mindfunk | there were weeks when every waking moment was at work, or traveling to/from and preparing for work |
14:36.58 | mindfunk | TheCollector: how is ltp going? |
14:37.06 | TheCollector | mindfunk: ok |
14:37.19 | mindfunk | how many cases left? |
14:38.01 | TheCollector | 16 =/ |
14:38.06 | mindfunk | ugh |
14:38.13 | TheCollector | slow and steady wins the trace... |
14:38.23 | mindfunk | I'll knock a couple off this morn... be over in a sec |
14:38.27 | TheCollector | k |
14:38.30 | TheCollector | & thanks |
14:41.19 | TheCollector | pmw: you can ctrl+z; bg it |
14:43.53 | a-atwood | pmw screen is your friend |
14:44.01 | TheCollector | yeah, n00b ;) |
14:44.32 | TheCollector | a-atwood: screen + irssi is a sweet combination |
14:44.57 | TheCollector | there isn't a way to cycle through screen sessions though, is there? |
14:45.32 | a-atwood | you mean instances, not screens on one instance, right? |
14:46.05 | a-atwood | when you run screen -r, if you have mult. sessions going, it puts a list up |
14:46.17 | a-atwood | you can give the pid of the one you want to capture. |
14:46.29 | a-atwood | ex. screen -dr 2342 |
14:47.00 | a-atwood | generally, the oldest session is at the top of the list. |
14:47.32 | mindfunk | you can also have >1 terminal using the same screen |
14:48.03 | mindfunk | screen -x |
14:48.54 | kergoth | a-atwood: its easier to name your sessions so you dont have to go by pid. |
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14:49.58 | a-atwood | kergoth: aye, but the hard part is naming the sessions w/o using obscenities |
14:50.06 | a-atwood | 325 xf009976 2 0 19180 18M 908 S 0.0 3.7 2:36 screen |
14:50.13 | a-atwood | been running a LONG time |
14:53.47 | a-atwood | Aha! screen -S names them. cool. Sometimes I need a new one without junking up the one running from another machine. |
14:54.38 | kergoth | yep |
15:14.17 | mindfunk | TheCollector: ok that was easy |
15:14.24 | mindfunk | TheCollector: linker01 needs perl |
15:14.40 | mindfunk | TheCollector: will not fix, will wait on the test_tools build |
15:14.49 | mindfunk | TheCollector: please add that to your notes |
15:14.53 | mindfunk | ~pester TheCollector |
15:14.54 | jbot | TheCollector: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? see http://beverlys.net/LJ/BuggingYou.swf |
15:15.46 | mindfunk | TheCollector: ping |
15:16.02 | mindfunk | tsowell: pls slap TheCollector and tell him to get on irc |
15:16.22 | mindfunk | tsowell: I don't have an fs_inode in my runtests list |
15:17.47 | tsowell | mindfunk: okay |
15:18.07 | pmw | TheCollector: Yeah, I can background it, but then I cannot restore it to a terminal. |
15:18.12 | tsowell | mindfunk: shut up |
15:18.24 | mindfunk | TheCollector: : I don't have an fs_inode in my runtests list |
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15:18.41 | tsowell | mindfunk: jeez, don't shoot the messenger |
15:18.47 | pmw | Have there been any ISO audit-related news since Tuesday? |
15:18.49 | tsowell | mindfunk: he says he busy |
15:18.55 | tsowell | pmw: yeah, you got fired |
15:18.56 | mindfunk | dude... so am I |
15:18.58 | mindfunk | and |
15:19.04 | mindfunk | I'm helping him out |
15:19.11 | mindfunk | he can give me 30 secs |
15:19.27 | tsowell | mindfunk: he gave in |
15:19.41 | mindfunk | I need to know wtf fs_indoe is so I can diag it |
15:19.55 | mindfunk | tsowell: did you slap him? |
15:20.14 | TheCollector | mindfunk: I don't know what it is, but it was executed |
15:20.25 | mindfunk | what is the cmd line? |
15:20.25 | TheCollector | I didn't run it by hand |
15:20.28 | TheCollector | ah |
15:21.04 | TheCollector | fs_inod $TMP 10 10 1 |
15:21.18 | mindfunk | ah |
15:21.50 | mindfunk | k... my bad... was greping for fs_inod |
15:22.12 | mindfunk | TheCollector: see the notes about linker01 |
15:22.25 | TheCollector | notes in the script? |
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15:23.38 | dez | mindfunk: here I am |
15:25.40 | mindfunk | dez: there you are |
15:25.58 | dez | mindfunk: therefore, I think? |
15:25.59 | mindfunk | dez: turned your board off... you are house k board 8 right |
15:26.19 | dez | mindfunk: K8, yes, but the board is still on |
15:26.46 | dez | mindfunk: I'm assuming the wireless signal just isn't reaching it |
15:26.53 | dez | mindfunk: and with that, I'm off to a meeting! |
15:27.21 | mindfunk | Wingnut: pls check and see if the antenna is extended on the transciever |
15:27.35 | mindfunk | TheCollector: fs_inod01 is a bash V ash issue |
15:27.35 | tsowell | well.. do the switches still do that thing where "off" means "off...then back on" |
15:27.49 | mindfunk | tsowell: no |
15:27.57 | tsowell | cool |
15:28.09 | mindfunk | at least, I don't think so |
15:28.23 | mindfunk | TheCollector: ping |
15:28.28 | mindfunk | ~pester TheCollector |
15:28.29 | jbot | TheCollector: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? see http://beverlys.net/LJ/BuggingYou.swf |
15:28.49 | tsowell | ~whaleslap TheCollector |
15:28.50 | jbot | ACTION slaps TheCollector upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
15:28.58 | mindfunk | ~insult tsowell |
15:29.02 | mindfunk | ~insult TheCollector |
15:29.08 | tsowell | ~lart mindfunk |
15:30.17 | mindfunk | tsowell: pls slap TheCollector and tell him to get on irc |
15:31.00 | mindfunk | x10 needs a remote slapping module |
15:31.51 | mindfunk | br --house=b-1000 --slap=TheCollector --port=/dev/tsowell |
15:32.44 | TheCollector | you don't have to be mean to me... |
15:32.56 | tsowell | he's been in a mean mood lately |
15:33.00 | TheCollector | what's up? |
15:33.08 | mindfunk | See above |
15:33.19 | mindfunk | do you have another test you haven't looked at yet? |
15:33.48 | TheCollector | no, don't think so |
15:34.03 | TheCollector | I hate ash so much... |
15:34.11 | tsowell | ~emulate ash |
15:34.12 | jbot | Good? Bad? I'm the one with the gun. |
15:34.12 | mindfunk | er... ok... is there a specific one giving you trouble? |
15:35.15 | mindfunk | TheCollector: please update your notes for linker01 and fs_inod01 |
15:35.23 | Wingnut | antenna is extended |
15:35.29 | mindfunk | Wingnut: thanks |
15:35.40 | mindfunk | Wingnut: was it already? |
15:35.42 | Wingnut | yes |
15:35.45 | mindfunk | hrm |
15:35.47 | mindfunk | k |
15:36.04 | mindfunk | TheCollector: ping |
15:36.21 | TheCollector | mindfunk: no, ash is just a pita when everything expects bash |
15:36.28 | TheCollector | sup? |
15:36.34 | mindfunk | gimme a test |
15:36.47 | mindfunk | I've disposed of the two you just gave me.... |
15:36.53 | mindfunk | update your notes |
15:37.02 | TheCollector | execve03 |
15:37.08 | mindfunk | linker01 needs perl and fs_inod needs bash |
15:37.12 | mindfunk | ok |
15:37.36 | TheCollector | damn, i can't believe that I didnt catch that perl wasnt on the board |
15:37.47 | TheCollector | I mean, theres no way it would be... |
15:52.01 | Wingnut | lunch? |
15:52.14 | Wingnut | loooooong lunch? |
15:52.34 | TheCollector | damn.... |
15:53.03 | TheCollector | I got roasted... |
15:53.22 | prpplague | ?? |
15:53.33 | TheCollector | ISO audit |
15:53.40 | gram | what happened? |
15:53.56 | TheCollector | apparently there was a safety training that I didn't have |
15:54.04 | pmw | They, like hawks, descended upon him. He fought his best, but the evil was just too overpowering. |
15:54.13 | prpplague | hehe |
15:54.34 | TheCollector | bastard... |
15:54.35 | gram | good call |
15:54.42 | tsowell | like an intelligent coward |
15:54.45 | prpplague | hehe |
16:01.16 | Crofton | god I miss ISO audits |
16:01.41 | Crofton | no one would be upset if I came in alte left early, and was really hard to find when I was there |
16:04.17 | tsowell | mindfunk: have any fun with your ZipIt? |
16:11.56 | mindfunk | TheCollector: DR OMAPS00021211 |
16:12.08 | mindfunk | TheCollector: execve03 ^^ |
16:12.28 | TheCollector | thanks |
16:13.37 | mindfunk | pls add that to your notes |
16:14.01 | mindfunk | if you give it an invalid string pointer, it is supposed to return EFAULT |
16:14.11 | mindfunk | but... it exec's and dies |
16:14.34 | mindfunk | lunch |
16:14.35 | mindfunk | ? |
16:14.38 | mindfunk | Wingnut: ^^ |
16:14.40 | mindfunk | tsowell: ^^ |
16:14.49 | mindfunk | ask kumuthini pls |
16:15.03 | mindfunk | pmw: you here? |
16:15.10 | mindfunk | pmw: ^^ |
16:16.21 | gram | ? |
16:16.52 | mindfunk | well... it's trying to execute something |
16:17.08 | gram | you mean that test, or the system call itself? |
16:17.16 | mindfunk | the syscall |
16:17.23 | mindfunk | it might not be... but it might |
16:17.45 | mindfunk | it depends on what it is trying to exec when you give it the invalid pointer |
16:17.45 | gram | that's how you start other programs... how is it a hole? |
16:18.25 | mindfunk | the fact that there is a call, is not the flaw |
16:18.34 | gram | right |
16:18.39 | mindfunk | the fact that the call accepts invalid pointers might be |
16:18.45 | mindfunk | _might_ |
16:18.57 | gram | oh... i see now. |
16:19.14 | mindfunk | gram: lunch |
16:19.32 | mindfunk | ? |
16:19.56 | mindfunk | ~pester |
16:19.59 | mindfunk | ~pester Wingnut |
16:20.00 | jbot | Wingnut: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? see http://beverlys.net/LJ/BuggingYou.swf |
16:20.08 | mindfunk | ~pester gram tsowell TheCollector |
16:20.10 | jbot | gram tsowell TheCollector: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? see http://beverlys.net/LJ/BuggingYou.swf |
16:20.18 | gram | i think TheCollector and pmw and i are going to burger king... or so i hear |
16:20.27 | mindfunk | ~pester someonenotonirc |
16:20.29 | jbot | someonenotonirc: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? see http://beverlys.net/LJ/BuggingYou.swf |
16:20.43 | TheCollector | tsowell is in a presentation |
16:20.51 | gram | ~ban mindfunk from pester |
16:20.57 | mindfunk | we gonna wait for him? |
16:20.58 | gram | damn... didn't work |
16:21.09 | mindfunk | ~ban gram |
16:21.15 | mindfunk | heh... |
16:21.16 | gram | i banned you first! |
16:21.26 | mindfunk | from pester... not the channel |
16:21.43 | mindfunk | s/were/are |
16:21.50 | gram | indeed. |
16:24.32 | mindfunk | so... I guess we are going to wait for tsowell |
16:24.40 | mindfunk | what time is his presentation over? |
16:25.00 | TheCollector | dunno |
16:25.16 | TheCollector | i think its supposed to be a short demo |
16:25.20 | mindfunk | k |
16:25.43 | mindfunk | TheCollector: how many tests are left |
16:25.44 | mindfunk | ? |
16:26.42 | TheCollector | 14 |
16:27.00 | TheCollector | I've been busy w/ other stuff |
16:27.25 | TheCollector | new employees need a _lot_ of help |
16:27.35 | mindfunk | right... can others help them? |
16:27.50 | TheCollector | everyone's pretty busy today |
16:27.55 | mindfunk | wait, there was 16... I knocked off 3.... |
16:28.10 | mindfunk | did we gain one |
16:28.11 | mindfunk | ? |
16:28.16 | TheCollector | iogen, sigaltstack & linker, right? |
16:28.30 | mindfunk | and fs_inod01 |
16:28.41 | mindfunk | so... 4 |
16:28.53 | mindfunk | iogen was yesterday |
16:29.00 | TheCollector | spose I can't count then |
16:29.07 | mindfunk | sigaltstack was yesterday |
16:29.28 | mindfunk | today I did: linker01, fs_inod01, and execve03 |
16:29.58 | TheCollector | yeah, it was a counting error |
16:38.57 | Wingnut | mindfunk: lunch and surplus? |
16:39.19 | mindfunk | Wingnut: sure... we just gotta be faster than yesterday |
16:39.27 | mindfunk | Wingnut: did we win the auction? |
18:56.39 | mindfunk | Wingnut && tsowell:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem |
18:57.48 | tsowell | having not looked at that site, wasn't the language Wingnut described exempt from that? |
19:02.28 | mindfunk | no... |
19:03.00 | mindfunk | argh... you cannot access mathworld from within TI |
19:03.02 | mindfunk | that sucks |
19:03.35 | tsowell | in Wingnut's language, every step of execution was enumerated... |
19:03.54 | mindfunk | "In his original proof Turing formalized the concept of algorithm by introducing Turing machines. However, the result is in no way specific to them; it applies equally to any other model of computation that is equivalent in its computational power to Turing machines, such as Markov algorithms, Lambda calculus, Post systems or register machines." |
19:04.13 | mindfunk | it's a turing machine thing... not a language thing |
19:04.21 | tsowell | this is with looking at the source, right? |
19:04.50 | mindfunk | "Given a description of an algorithm and its initial input, determine whether the algorithm, when executed on this input, ever halts (completes). The alternative is that it runs forever without halting." |
19:05.20 | tsowell | Wingnut's language does not run forever |
19:05.26 | tsowell | guess it isn't turing complete then |
19:06.01 | mindfunk | a turing complete language != turing machine |
19:06.21 | tsowell | what's the difference/ |
19:06.22 | tsowell | ? |
19:06.28 | tsowell | er |
19:06.29 | mindfunk | wait... |
19:06.33 | tsowell | turing complete is equivalent to a turing machine |
19:06.34 | mindfunk | nevermind... |
19:06.58 | mindfunk | well, the finite state grammers can run on a turing machine |
19:07.05 | mindfunk | but they are not turing complete |
19:07.11 | tsowell | and equivalence is what matters. but can a turing machine run on a finite state grammer? |
19:07.16 | mindfunk | there is some functionality in a turing machine |
19:07.23 | tsowell | er, that first sentence was not intended |
19:07.26 | mindfunk | that is not exposed by the langues |
19:07.53 | tsowell | then they are not turing complete, right? |
19:08.04 | gram | tsowell: did you use my board this morning? |
19:08.06 | tsowell | they are not universal computators |
19:08.10 | tsowell | gram: you wish |
19:08.16 | mindfunk | I don't think so... hold on |
19:09.36 | mindfunk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_language |
19:09.41 | tsowell | whoa wait |
19:09.46 | mindfunk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Context-free_language |
19:10.02 | tsowell | nevermind |
19:10.07 | tsowell | what do those say? |
19:10.52 | mindfunk | "it's in the book" -- timelife |
19:11.08 | tsowell | ~emulate Tyler Durden |
19:11.09 | jbot | the things you own end up owning you | |
19:12.18 | mindfunk | ~emulate ash |
19:12.19 | jbot | Honey, you got real ugly. |
19:12.44 | mindfunk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumping_lemma |
19:14.06 | tsowell | dude, I took this class like two semesters okay |
19:14.46 | mindfunk | dude... it's been at least 5 years since I've taken any class that deals with this stuff |
19:14.48 | tsowell | so you need to tell me what they say :P |
19:15.07 | mindfunk | no, I don't |
19:15.18 | tsowell | well, at least give me the relevant bits |
19:15.33 | mindfunk | read the pumping lemma one... |
19:15.42 | tsowell | you're the one trying to make an argument here |
19:15.56 | mindfunk | no... I wasn't |
19:16.08 | mindfunk | you guys didn't know what the halting problem was |
19:16.40 | mindfunk | mike made a statment, which he consceded was incorrect, so that part is over |
19:17.04 | tsowell | umm |
19:17.44 | tsowell | programs for the language he described must halt in finite time |
19:18.18 | mindfunk | does the phrase "any arbitrary program" ring a bell? |
19:18.26 | mindfunk | look at the proof dude |
19:18.36 | tsowell | any abitrary program in that language must halt in finite time |
19:18.53 | tsowell | therefore, I'm guessing that that language is not turing complete |
19:18.59 | tsowell | becaue I believe you about the halting problem |
19:19.07 | mindfunk | I didn't say "any arbitrary program in that language" |
19:19.17 | tsowell | he did |
19:19.52 | mindfunk | mebbe in the truck he did... LOOK AT THE FRIGGIN PROOF |
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19:20.12 | tsowell | no :P |
19:20.14 | tsowell | I already believe it |
19:20.20 | mindfunk | then leave me alone |
19:20.31 | tsowell | fine |
19:20.44 | tsowell | but don't expect me to keep using finwe or anything |
19:21.07 | mindfunk | who said that I would even want you to use finwe *chortle* |
19:21.21 | tsowell | gram |
19:21.31 | tsowell | your secret is out |
19:21.39 | mindfunk | whatever dude |
19:22.08 | tsowell | oh yeah, so why did we start talking about the halting problem? |
19:22.15 | tsowell | didn't it start with something else? |
19:22.34 | mindfunk | because mike make a statement, which he later consceded was incorrect |
19:22.39 | tsowell | ohhh |
19:22.43 | tsowell | what statement was it? |
19:22.47 | mindfunk | the halting problem was the counter example to that |
19:22.49 | tsowell | nevermind |
19:22.50 | tsowell | the robot thing |
19:22.54 | mindfunk | right |
19:23.20 | tsowell | now I understand |
19:24.04 | tsowell | I can make a hypercomputational robot that can do anything |
19:25.21 | mindfunk | can it move the immovable object? or resist the irristable force? |
19:26.19 | mindfunk | can it come up with at solution to the halting problem? |
19:26.52 | mindfunk | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4578895.stm |
19:27.25 | mindfunk | I'm ordering that for the lab |
19:29.48 | tsowell | mindfunk: name an immovable object and irresistable force |
19:30.22 | tsowell | "the inflatable bubble expands into any available space" |
19:30.31 | tsowell | that's pretty nifty. don't use it outside! |
19:31.53 | mindfunk | your mom is an immovable object |
19:32.52 | tsowell | but my good looks are an irresistable force |
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19:33.15 | mindfunk | dude... is your mom attracted to you? |
19:33.31 | tsowell | your mom is attracted to me |
19:33.55 | mindfunk | no... your mom is attracted to you |
19:34.00 | tsowell | no, your mom is |
19:34.07 | mindfunk | no, your mom is |
19:34.26 | tsowell | no, your mom |
19:35.25 | TheCollector | I'm glad to see that the debate is over... |
19:35.37 | tsowell | yeah, in the end, we decided it was mark's mom |
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19:35.47 | mindfunk | no it's over |
19:35.50 | mindfunk | now |
19:35.51 | TheCollector | haha |
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19:36.22 | tsowell | and you'll be sorry |
19:36.35 | mindfunk | hehe |
19:36.43 | tsowell | brian suggests starting a #marksmomwantsme channel |
19:36.56 | TheCollector | dude, not cool.... |
19:37.08 | tsowell | you did too. pmw is my witness |
19:37.13 | TheCollector | I didn't say that |
19:37.29 | gram | i /joined but it said something about too many people in the channel or something |
19:37.33 | pmw | TheCollector: I like the idea, but I don't know if freenode can hold the number of people that would join... |
19:37.55 | pmw | (damn, too slow.) |
19:38.00 | TheCollector | man, you guys are mean... |
19:38.21 | mindfunk | ~insult tsowell TheCollector pmw gram |
19:38.23 | pmw | I bet Mark is running down the spine right now, with a pitchfork in yhand. |
19:38.42 | mindfunk | fuck that... it would be a flamethrower |
19:38.50 | TheCollector | nah, he'd grab an always-trusty AK-47 |
19:38.54 | TheCollector | ah, dang |
19:40.45 | mindfunk | not that hard at all, actually |
19:41.01 | TheCollector | scuba tanks? |
19:41.30 | tsowell | lighter and a water pistol |
19:41.41 | tsowell | like in that movie with Jean Claude Van Damme or whatever his name is |
19:41.48 | TheCollector | bah, I'm talking about a man's flamethrower |
19:42.19 | mindfunk | TheCollector: so... how are those LTP tests coming along? |
19:42.30 | TheCollector | ok |
19:42.31 | tsowell | ~whaleslap TheCOllectyor |
19:42.32 | jbot | ACTION slaps TheCOllectyor upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
19:42.43 | TheCollector | ~whaleblock |
19:42.46 | tsowell | ~spell TheCOllectyor |
19:42.47 | TheCollector | damn |
19:47.54 | mindfunk | pmw: you wanna put the HDs in finwe real quick? |
19:48.01 | mindfunk | now is the time |
19:48.07 | pmw | mindfunk: I have a meeting in 11 minutes. |
19:48.42 | TheCollector | ~lart TQ |
19:48.56 | TheCollector | >_< |
19:49.14 | pmw | ~>_> |
19:49.30 | pmw | jbot: ~>_> is <reply> <_< |
19:49.31 | jbot | pmw: okay |
19:49.33 | pmw | ~>_> |
19:49.44 | pmw | jbot: >_> is <reply> <_< |
19:49.45 | jbot | pmw: okay |
19:49.47 | pmw | ~>_> |
19:49.58 | pmw | Oh. |
19:50.03 | pmw | ~forget ~>_> |
19:50.04 | jbot | pmw: i forgot ~>_> |
19:50.06 | pmw | ~forget >_> |
19:50.06 | jbot | pmw: i didn't have anything called '>_>' to forget |
19:50.31 | pmw | ~literal ~lart |
19:50.38 | pmw | Jeez. |
19:55.36 | tsowell | ~whaleslap TheCOllectyor |
19:55.37 | jbot | ACTION slaps TheCOllectyor upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
20:11.14 | tsowell | Kumuthini just found something absolutely nutty in TQ |
20:12.15 | tsowell | I hope it's a configuration issue... the coordinates given in the image verifier window are not the same ones it uses for the touchpad |
20:13.45 | tsowell | mindfunk: ping |
20:14.52 | prpplague | mindfunk: i got that resume from ian |
20:15.41 | mindfunk | prpplague: cool... he's a good guy |
20:15.55 | mindfunk | tsowell: pong |
20:16.06 | tsowell | help me win an argument with gram |
20:16.23 | mindfunk | when in doubt, use brute force |
20:16.47 | tsowell | nah, brute force sucks |
20:17.02 | tsowell | especially in arguments |
20:17.02 | tsowell | it's better to be right |
20:17.12 | mindfunk | well, are you right? |
20:17.14 | mindfunk | gram: ? |
20:17.18 | tsowell | I hope so |
20:17.23 | tsowell | he's not here, so we can conspire |
20:17.36 | mindfunk | what is he claiming? |
20:17.55 | tsowell | so I says to gram, "I bet I can call a C function and pass it fewer arguments than it is defined to accept" |
20:18.15 | tsowell | so I typecasted a function with two arguments to a function with one arguments |
20:18.29 | tsowell | er, I mean one argument(s) |
20:18.51 | tsowell | so is that correct and acceptable, predictable C code? |
20:19.07 | tsowell | standards-compliant? |
20:19.14 | mindfunk | acceptable by whom? |
20:19.18 | tsowell | ANSI |
20:19.31 | mindfunk | cut-n-paste the code |
20:20.49 | tsowell | #include <stdio.h> |
20:20.49 | tsowell | int dog(int cat, int mouse) |
20:20.49 | tsowell | { |
20:20.49 | tsowell | <PROTECTED> |
20:20.49 | tsowell | <PROTECTED> |
20:20.51 | tsowell | } |
20:20.54 | tsowell | int main(int argc, char **argv) |
20:20.56 | tsowell | { |
20:20.59 | tsowell | <PROTECTED> |
20:21.01 | tsowell | <PROTECTED> |
20:21.04 | tsowell | }} |
20:21.27 | tsowell | s/}}/} |
20:21.49 | mindfunk | I don't think that is ansi compliant... but I'm not suree |
20:21.54 | tsowell | okay |
20:22.04 | mindfunk | does it compile? |
20:22.07 | mindfunk | run? |
20:22.19 | tsowell | yep. gcc -Wall -ansi -pedantic produces no warnings |
20:22.25 | tsowell | it also executes |
20:22.32 | TimRiker | salvage anything today? |
20:22.42 | tsowell | sadly, we lost the auction |
20:23.35 | TimRiker | bummer. I wish they would post how much stuff went for. |
20:23.53 | mindfunk | they do... that lot went for $128 or something |
20:23.57 | tsowell | they told us. our lot went for $126, more than double or bid |
20:24.13 | tsowell | and by or I mean our |
20:24.30 | mindfunk | tsowell: where those dells? |
20:24.49 | tsowell | TimRiker: sorry :\ |
20:24.54 | tsowell | mindfunk: Fujitsu |
20:25.03 | TimRiker | =) not a biggie. just a suggestion. |
20:26.00 | tsowell | TimRiker: yeah, I don't do it very often, but next time I'll look into it |
20:26.03 | mindfunk | http://search.ebay.com/tablet-Fujitsu_W0QQsofocusZbsQQsbrftogZ1QQfromZR10QQsojsZ1QQsacatZ-1QQcatrefZC6QQsargnZ-1QQsaslcZ2QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQsadisZ200QQfposZQ5AIPQ2FPostalQQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1 |
20:26.52 | tsowell | TimRiker: speaking of, would my bot be acceptable in #OL if it spoke lowercase? |
20:27.11 | TimRiker | looks ansi to me, but still not a good idead, cause the params won't match. |
20:27.11 | tsowell | mindfunk: wow, maybe that guy got a good deal |
20:27.58 | tsowell | yeah, not a good idea... and what would happen if it was run on and architecture where the return address is passed on the stack? |
20:28.15 | TimRiker | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6771495516 |
20:29.04 | mindfunk | yeah he did... |
20:29.09 | mindfunk | damnit |
20:29.21 | mindfunk | we should have beat him up |
20:29.33 | tsowell | and taken his woman |
20:29.37 | mindfunk | and his tablets |
20:29.42 | tsowell | yeah |
20:29.51 | tsowell | the tablets were prettier anyway |
20:30.10 | mindfunk | agreed |
20:30.15 | tsowell | but when you think about it... it's like a laptop... with no keyboard |
20:30.44 | tsowell | then it seems kind of lame. but touchscreens are different and cool. so it's a tough call. I don't think I would pay $100 for one |
20:31.35 | mindfunk | I'd pay $50 |
20:31.39 | tsowell | me too |
20:31.50 | mindfunk | assuming it had pcmcia or built in 802.11 |
20:32.02 | tsowell | yeah |
20:37.09 | TimRiker | tsowell: I'd rather not have another bot, but if it speaks only when spoken too, I don't mid so much. |
20:37.41 | TimRiker | s/mid/mind/ |
20:41.31 | mindfunk | TheCollector: do you have a board booted with 11.05? |
20:42.41 | mindfunk | ~pester TheCollector |
20:42.42 | jbot | TheCollector: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? see http://beverlys.net/LJ/BuggingYou.swf |
20:43.01 | mindfunk | TheCollector: tell me if there is anything in /dev/input on the 11.0.5 release |
20:46.11 | *** join/#ol TimRiker (~timr@TimRiker.active.supporter.pdpc) |
20:46.11 | *** mode/#OL [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
20:51.32 | *** join/#ol Carley (~tom@c-24-0-87-191.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
21:25.51 | TheCollector | hello carly |
21:26.32 | tsowell | yeah, it totally killed the channel |
21:30.40 | TheCollector | `channel |
21:30.40 | Carley | yeah it totally killed the channel |
21:30.57 | TheCollector | hey, carly doesn't shout any more |
21:31.07 | tsowell | yeah, I fixed it a while ago |
21:31.11 | pmw | So about that source code, tsowell... |
21:31.20 | tsowell | I was just thinking about that, pmw |
21:31.51 | TheCollector | There is nothing in /dev/input, mindfunk |
21:31.52 | tsowell | I'm just kinda shy about open sourcing the first thing I've written in a language |
21:32.06 | tsowell | what if girls make fun of it? |
21:32.36 | pmw | Re-set it to use all caps before you open-source it -- it'll look much bigger. |
21:32.51 | tsowell | I'll reset your mom to all caps |
21:33.06 | tsowell | I'll pop an all cap in yo ass |
21:33.07 | pmw | Well, I'll reset all caps on your mom! |
21:33.26 | TheCollector | mindfunk: what all is involved in 802.11 on campus? |
21:33.30 | pmw | ka4pas14wecgw3 |
21:33.46 | pmw | Ignore that. |
21:34.09 | tsowell | `Carley didn't ignore that |
21:34.09 | Carley | reset your mom |
21:34.36 | mindfunk | hehe |
21:34.53 | mindfunk | mindfunk: leap |
21:34.58 | mindfunk | TheCollector: leap |
21:35.09 | tsowell | tsowell: note to self... dur |
21:35.17 | TheCollector | mindfunk: Thanks |
21:37.53 | tsowell | mindfunk: ping -s 1016 |
21:39.06 | mindfunk | who did what to finwe?!? |
21:39.17 | tsowell | who trashed its disks? |
21:39.34 | tsowell | there's shrapnel everywhere |
21:39.37 | tsowell | I think I've been hit |
21:39.47 | mindfunk | Wingnut: could you reboot finwe pls |
21:40.03 | tsowell | Wingnut isn't here anymore |
21:40.11 | mindfunk | pmw: actually, now would be the time to put the hds in |
21:40.16 | tsowell | pmw is leaving |
21:40.17 | tsowell | he's gone |
21:40.18 | tsowell | sorry |
21:40.27 | tsowell | I said "wait pmw!" |
21:40.38 | tsowell | he said something rude about you and bill |
21:40.44 | mindfunk | TheCollector: pls reboot finwe |
21:40.45 | tsowell | then he left |
21:41.04 | TheCollector | mindfunk: will do |
21:42.39 | tsowell | pmw said he's going to pay me for flamebait |
21:48.02 | mindfunk | TheCollector: sup with finwe? |
21:48.20 | tsowell | good question |
21:48.33 | mindfunk | I'll be over there in a sec |
21:59.26 | TheCollector | `finwe |
21:59.26 | Carley | then he said hes going to put the channel |
21:59.41 | tsowell | `finwe is lame |
21:59.41 | Carley | ill pop an all caps |
22:00.14 | mindfunk | `tsowell is lame |
22:00.14 | Carley | ill pop an all cap in devinput mindfunk ping s 1016 |
22:00.23 | tsowell | `it's not mindfunk's fault |
22:00.24 | Carley | then he said wait pmw actually now would be over there is involved in |
22:00.33 | TheCollector | good job, carley |
22:00.35 | tsowell | `mostly debian's |
22:00.35 | Carley | mindfunk what all cap in devinput mindfunk what all cap in |
22:00.50 | mindfunk | TheCollector: did you look in /dev/input on the 11.0.5 board? |
22:01.01 | mindfunk | `TheCollector: did you look in /dev/input on the 11.0.5 board? |
22:01.01 | Carley | pmw |
22:01.11 | tsowell | ~whaleslap TheCollector |
22:01.12 | jbot | ACTION slaps TheCollector upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
22:02.05 | tsowell | it's pretty hard to get TheCollector to do anything when Firefox is obscuring the channel |
22:02.40 | mindfunk | `~wedgie tsowell |
22:02.40 | Carley | ill pop an all caps |
22:03.00 | tsowell | `Carley discards non-alphanums |
22:03.00 | Carley | ignore that source code tsowell is lame |
22:03.04 | TheCollector | mindfunk: yeah, I said it's empty |
22:03.10 | TheCollector | at least I thought I did |
22:03.25 | mindfunk | k |
22:03.41 | mindfunk | `I like cake |
22:03.41 | Carley | finwe |
22:03.47 | mindfunk | `I like cake |
22:03.48 | Carley | who trashed its disks |
22:03.55 | mindfunk | `I like cake |
22:03.55 | Carley | mindfunk ping s 1016 |
22:04.00 | mindfunk | `I like cake |
22:04.01 | Carley | sorry |
22:04.02 | mindfunk | `I like cake |
22:04.03 | Carley | who trashed its empty |
22:04.04 | mindfunk | `I like cake |
22:04.04 | Carley | ignore that |
22:04.06 | mindfunk | `I like cake |
22:04.06 | Carley | yeah it a language |
22:04.08 | mindfunk | `I like cake |
22:04.08 | Carley | mostly debians |
22:04.10 | mindfunk | `I like cake |
22:04.11 | Carley | whaleslap thecollector pls reboot finwe |
22:04.19 | mindfunk | `I like cake |
22:04.19 | Carley | wingnut isnt here anymore |
22:04.28 | TheCollector | `wingnut |
22:04.28 | Carley | finwe is leaving |
22:04.32 | tsowell | you're going to get me in trouble with TimRiker again |
22:04.43 | mindfunk | ...so |
22:04.43 | mindfunk | ? |
22:04.50 | tsowell | so, you're a jerk |
22:05.04 | mindfunk | spoiled sport... |
22:05.15 | tsowell | how so? |
22:06.04 | TheCollector | `Carly likes cake |
22:06.04 | Carley | how so youre going to get thecollector did what if girls make fun of it totally killed the hds in devinput on the first thing ive written in yo ass |
22:06.17 | tsowell | mindfunk gave it a complex |
22:07.01 | TheCollector | `carly is hot |
22:07.02 | Carley | who did what to pay me for flamebait |
22:09.19 | mindfunk | uhoh |
22:09.28 | TheCollector | what? |
22:09.33 | mindfunk | TheCollector: pls cycle the power on the usb drive... |
22:09.43 | mindfunk | it might not be on |
22:09.48 | tsowell | my love for you is like a truck |
22:09.50 | tsowell | BERSERKER |
22:10.00 | TheCollector | mindfunk: done |
22:10.16 | tsowell | my love for you is like a clock |
22:10.18 | tsowell | BERSERKER |
22:10.37 | mindfunk | TheCollector: change usb ports pls |
22:10.40 | TheCollector | k |
22:10.41 | tsowell | mindfunk: you're a clearcase guru, right? |
22:10.46 | mindfunk | no |
22:10.52 | tsowell | pretend, for me |
22:10.53 | mindfunk | a-atwood: ^^ |
22:10.59 | mindfunk | a-atwood is |
22:11.06 | tsowell | no, I just want to check something in to our task branch |
22:11.11 | tsowell | I don't want to know how to do it |
22:11.29 | tsowell | or our integration branch or whatever |
22:12.05 | TheCollector | `what is like a truck |
22:12.05 | Carley | or our integration branch or our integration branch or whatever |
22:12.18 | tsowell | `BERSERKER |
22:12.19 | Carley | aatwood |
22:12.30 | tsowell | `berserker is so crazy |
22:12.30 | Carley | i like cake |
22:12.37 | tsowell | there you go mark |
22:13.09 | TheCollector | `the workers are going home |
22:13.09 | Carley | i dont want to put the 1105 board |
22:14.12 | TheCollector | Finwe is dead |
22:14.39 | tsowell | if you're using finwe, you're fighting a losing battle |
22:14.59 | TheCollector | it certainly feels like it |
22:15.10 | tsowell | can install(1) recursively install a directory? |
22:15.55 | TheCollector | `my love for you is like a truck |
22:15.55 | Carley | hey carly |
22:16.59 | TheCollector | `my head hurts |
22:16.59 | Carley | i like a losing battle |
22:17.47 | TheCollector | `mindfunk is my friend |
22:17.47 | Carley | i like cake |
22:18.00 | tsowell | `I like hurting small animals |
22:18.01 | Carley | i like hurting small animals |
22:19.23 | tsowell | mindfunk: ping -s 1016 |
22:19.38 | TheCollector | `debian is fun |
22:19.38 | Carley | carley didnt ignore that source code tsowell is leaving |
22:20.27 | TheCollector | `finwe is dead |
22:20.27 | Carley | if youre using finwe |
22:20.34 | TheCollector | `finwe is dead |
22:20.35 | Carley | if youre going to know how to our task branch or our task branch |
22:20.50 | TheCollector | `guns are fun |
22:20.50 | Carley | it |
22:21.08 | TheCollector | `music is nice |
22:21.08 | Carley | mindfunk thanks |
22:21.40 | mindfunk | ?? |
22:21.43 | mindfunk | what? |
22:22.05 | mindfunk | what you still need CC help? |
22:22.21 | TheCollector | `I need help |
22:22.21 | Carley | ignore that source code tsowell |
22:22.29 | tsowell | mindfunk: I always need CC help. I also want to know if install(1) can recursively install a directory |
22:23.03 | mindfunk | man install |
22:23.17 | TheCollector | `tsowell |
22:23.17 | Carley | if girls make fun |
22:23.30 | tsowell | yeah, I tried that. apparently I need something indocumented |
22:23.30 | TheCollector | `the workers are going home |
22:23.30 | Carley | i thought i fixed it a truck |
22:23.45 | TheCollector | `I have a truck |
22:23.45 | Carley | ka4pas14wecgw3 |
22:23.49 | mindfunk | TheCollector: sup with ltp |
22:23.52 | mindfunk | haha |
22:23.59 | TheCollector | it's going well |
22:24.02 | mindfunk | pmw better change his passwd to something... |
22:24.07 | TheCollector | `I have a truck |
22:24.07 | Carley | tsowell |
22:24.09 | mindfunk | TheCollector: how many left? |
22:24.11 | TheCollector | dang |
22:24.40 | TheCollector | 10, i think |
22:24.48 | mindfunk | sweet |
22:24.59 | mindfunk | er... you think? |
22:25.07 | TheCollector | yeah |
22:25.07 | tsowell | I think he's lying |
22:25.12 | mindfunk | yeah... me too |
22:25.18 | TheCollector | tsowell is an ass |
22:25.23 | mindfunk | yeah... |
22:25.47 | tsowell | I only have 10 functions left to cover |
22:26.02 | TheCollector | `I cover functions |
22:26.02 | Carley | thecollector pls |
22:26.30 | mindfunk | `I probe functions |
22:26.31 | Carley | good job carley discards nonalphanums |
22:26.42 | mindfunk | ~dict mandible |
22:26.50 | TheCollector | `tsowell likes anal probes |
22:26.50 | Carley | finwe |
22:26.56 | tsowell | GROSS |
22:27.07 | tsowell | totally uncalled for |
22:27.11 | mindfunk | well... you do |
22:27.15 | tsowell | I bet you have like 30-something tests left |
22:27.30 | TheCollector | tsowell: so was that "your mom" comment yesterday |
22:28.46 | TheCollector | but it was funny |
22:29.03 | TheCollector | `I have a mandible |
22:29.03 | Carley | yeah i bet you reboot finwe is lame |
22:29.16 | tsowell | your mom has a mandible |
22:29.31 | TheCollector | good job, tsowell. |
22:29.37 | TheCollector | do you want a cookie?\ |
22:29.42 | tsowell | yes |
22:29.46 | mindfunk | mmm cookies |
22:29.53 | tsowell | you can bring it to me in my lab, B-1000 |
22:29.54 | TheCollector | then you had better buy one |
22:30.05 | tsowell | let's eat some of mark's cookies |
22:30.26 | mindfunk | tsowell: just wait right there... don't leave or anything... the cookies are comming |
22:30.35 | tsowell | I hear mark has tons in his cube |
22:30.49 | tsowell | comming? sounds almost leftist to me |
22:30.52 | mindfunk | tsowell: they will be delivered... just keep waiting |
22:31.03 | mindfunk | to you it would |
22:31.19 | tsowell | because I'm a defender of freedom on the home front? |
22:31.35 | tsowell | khronos.org has serious issues |
22:31.37 | tsowell | and I hate it |
22:31.48 | mindfunk | no... because you are a commie that thinks he needs to share someone else's cookies |
22:32.01 | tsowell | no, I think you need to share your cookies |
22:32.05 | tsowell | totally different |
22:32.16 | mindfunk | so... I'm not someone else? |
22:32.29 | mindfunk | I'm sorry... mindfunk != tsowell |
22:32.29 | tsowell | yeah, but you get to share your own cookies |
22:32.33 | tsowell | I'm not going to share them |
22:33.29 | tsowell | you accused me of being a commie that thinks I need to share your cookies |
22:33.37 | TheCollector | ERROR: Ambiguous pronoun referances found |
22:33.38 | tsowell | but anyway |
22:33.53 | mindfunk | ~dict share |
22:34.41 | tsowell | yeah, that totally proved me wrong |
22:37.35 | TheCollector | ~emulate tsowell |
22:37.36 | jbot | ACTION dances |
22:37.53 | tsowell | ~literal tsowell |
22:37.59 | tsowell | ~literal emulate tsowell |
22:38.00 | jbot | "emulate tsowell" is "<action> dances" |
22:38.10 | TheCollector | jbot: emulate tsowell is <reply> "Hey! Let's try to piss off mindfunk!" |
22:38.11 | jbot | ...but emulate tsowell is already something else... |
22:38.17 | tsowell | haha |
22:38.20 | tsowell | nice try |
22:38.21 | TheCollector | jbot: no, emulate tsowell is <reply> "Hey! Let's try to piss off mindfunk!" |
22:38.22 | jbot | okay, TheCollector |
22:38.26 | TheCollector | haha |
22:38.28 | tsowell | ~literal emulate TheCollector |
22:38.38 | TheCollector | ~emulate tsowell |
22:38.39 | jbot | "Hey! Let's try to piss off mindfunk!" |
22:40.43 | tsowell | oh, mindfunk knows it's all in fun |
22:42.19 | TheCollector | mindfunk: is it worth it to compile perl for linker.pl? |
22:43.13 | TheCollector | `tsowell likes to dance |
22:43.18 | TheCollector | damn |
22:52.30 | mindfunk | should be part of keiths test package |
22:52.52 | TheCollector | ok |
22:53.08 | TheCollector | take care |
22:58.51 | *** part/#ol dez (~a0384905@proxysb01.ext.ti.com) |