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18:44.51 | creeperz | hey JeffM2501 |
18:44.59 | creeperz | what WoW server do you usually play on? |
18:49.17 | JeffM2501 | ? |
18:49.26 | JeffM2501 | shadow council |
18:50.00 | creeperz | ahh |
18:50.25 | creeperz | mgiht have to make a character on that server sometime soon :-P |
18:50.35 | creeperz | are you alliance? |
18:52.17 | JeffM2501 | yea |
19:16.07 | amathis | hmm |
19:16.13 | amathis | world of warcraft? |
19:23.45 | JeffM2501 | ya |
19:23.47 | JeffM2501 | a game |
19:35.26 | amathis | hmm |
19:37.55 | amathis | JeffM2501: what is the best lib for network? |
19:39.50 | JeffM2501 | depends onwhat you want to do |
19:40.00 | amathis | well, I want to make a simple server / client. |
19:40.05 | amathis | to just send a string of text. |
19:40.06 | JeffM2501 | then no lib |
19:40.08 | JeffM2501 | raw sockets |
19:42.27 | amathis | ok |
19:42.48 | amathis | how do I make those diagrams for programming during planning stages/ |
19:42.58 | amathis | like what I saw on firestarter's website |
19:43.05 | JeffM2501 | there are some apps that do it |
19:43.11 | JeffM2501 | in koffice |
19:43.23 | JeffM2501 | just search for a UML modeler |
19:48.53 | amathis | sweet |
19:58.06 | amathis | JeffM2501: when you used UDP on PIMP, did you send an ACK message? |
19:58.27 | amathis | to make sure the other end recieved the packet? |
19:59.11 | JeffM2501 | not every packet |
19:59.20 | JeffM2501 | you don't want to use UDP |
19:59.23 | JeffM2501 | it's lossy |
19:59.29 | JeffM2501 | the ack packet may not even go thru |
20:00.13 | amathis | heh |
20:00.16 | amathis | I was reading on that |
20:00.31 | amathis | I just read about the two comon types of sockets |
20:01.19 | amathis | unsigned short sa_family; // address family, AF_xxx |
20:01.26 | amathis | what is an address family/ |
20:01.28 | amathis | ? |
20:02.25 | JeffM2501 | internet |
20:02.32 | JeffM2501 | AF_INTERNET |
20:02.42 | JeffM2501 | aka is it an internet address and packet |
20:02.52 | amathis | ohj |
20:02.53 | amathis | ok |
20:02.57 | JeffM2501 | sockets was initaly made for more then just TCP and UDP |
20:06.13 | amathis | wow, this tutorial all of a sudden started making little to no sense. |
21:09.45 | amathis | JeffM2501: you know what the hardest thing about tutorials for me is... figuring out what is just example, or what has to be that way.. |
21:09.50 | amathis | for example: |
21:10.09 | amathis | struct sockaddr_in my_addr; |
21:10.09 | amathis | <PROTECTED> |
21:10.09 | amathis | <PROTECTED> |
21:10.36 | amathis | I have no idea what sockaddr_in and my_addr are? are they arbitrary variables? |
21:11.14 | JeffM2501 | they are the same things |
21:11.17 | JeffM2501 | my_addr is |
21:11.47 | JeffM2501 | it's a variable of type sockadr_in |
21:11.51 | JeffM2501 | and that is a struct |
21:11.59 | JeffM2501 | defined in one of your included headers |
21:12.13 | JeffM2501 | get an ide that will show that kinda stuff to you |
21:17.34 | amathis | heh |
21:17.35 | amathis | like what :P |
21:17.52 | amathis | oh, check out my desktop, http://amathis.net/~amathis/screen.png |
21:20.31 | JeffM2501 | I dono, find an editor or IDE that will do it for you on your OS. |
21:20.43 | amathis | I am running anjuta |
21:21.28 | JeffM2501 | ok then does it support clicking on a type and going to it's definition? |
21:21.45 | amathis | nope |
21:21.53 | amathis | I think kdevelop does that |
21:21.55 | amathis | I am not sure |
21:22.18 | JeffM2501 | you should find out |
21:22.22 | amathis | I am compiling it now |
21:22.25 | JeffM2501 | those are the tools that help you know what stuff does |
21:22.42 | amathis | ah |
21:24.22 | JeffM2501 | bbl |
22:02.13 | amathis | wbwb |
22:02.25 | JeffM2501 | ty |
22:02.59 | amathis | I am starting to grasp sockets and packets and stuff |
22:03.11 | JeffM2501 | cool |
22:03.44 | amathis | what is an easy, but fun application for practicing? |
22:03.57 | amathis | I was thinking about making a aim style chat |
22:04.04 | amathis | that way, I can practice my gtk also |
22:04.09 | JeffM2501 | ya |
22:21.59 | amathis | ok, now I am a bit confused. |
22:22.00 | amathis | >_< |
22:22.41 | JeffM2501 | ? |
22:33.12 | amathis | ajust working on stuff |
22:42.01 | amathis | hmm |
22:42.07 | amathis | I think I have an ok chat server working |
22:42.15 | amathis | care to test it out with me? |
22:42.34 | amathis | telnet 66.39.186.244 9034 |
22:42.43 | amathis | use that command to connect |
22:43.26 | JeffM2501 | did it |
22:52.05 | amathis | hrm |
23:04.17 | JeffM2501 | ? |
23:07.34 | amathis | just trying to pull things together |
23:07.56 | amathis | .. oh and pull myself together :) |
23:08.00 | amathis | been sick for the past few days |
23:08.21 | amathis | I am thinking about rebooting into windows and getting some work donw |
23:08.23 | amathis | *done |
23:08.41 | amathis | in VC++, Macromedia MX studio and of course Halo |
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