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18:44.51creeperzhey JeffM2501
18:44.59creeperzwhat WoW server do you usually play on?
18:49.17JeffM2501?
18:49.26JeffM2501shadow council
18:50.00creeperzahh
18:50.25creeperzmgiht have to make a character on that server sometime soon :-P
18:50.35creeperzare you alliance?
18:52.17JeffM2501yea
19:16.07amathishmm
19:16.13amathisworld of warcraft?
19:23.45JeffM2501ya
19:23.47JeffM2501a game
19:35.26amathishmm
19:37.55amathisJeffM2501: what is the best lib for network?
19:39.50JeffM2501depends onwhat you want to do
19:40.00amathiswell, I want to make a simple server / client.
19:40.05amathisto just send a string of text.
19:40.06JeffM2501then no lib
19:40.08JeffM2501raw sockets
19:42.27amathisok
19:42.48amathishow do I make those diagrams for programming during planning stages/
19:42.58amathislike what I saw on firestarter's website
19:43.05JeffM2501there are some apps that do it
19:43.11JeffM2501in koffice
19:43.23JeffM2501just search for a UML modeler
19:48.53amathissweet
19:58.06amathisJeffM2501: when you used UDP on PIMP, did you send an ACK message?
19:58.27amathisto make sure the other end recieved the packet?
19:59.11JeffM2501not every packet
19:59.20JeffM2501you don't want to use UDP
19:59.23JeffM2501it's lossy
19:59.29JeffM2501the ack packet may not even go thru
20:00.13amathisheh
20:00.16amathisI was reading on that
20:00.31amathisI just read about the two comon types of sockets
20:01.19amathisunsigned short    sa_family;    // address family, AF_xxx
20:01.26amathiswhat is an address family/
20:01.28amathis?
20:02.25JeffM2501internet
20:02.32JeffM2501AF_INTERNET
20:02.42JeffM2501aka is it an internet address and packet
20:02.52amathisohj
20:02.53amathisok
20:02.57JeffM2501sockets was initaly made for more then just TCP and UDP
20:06.13amathiswow, this tutorial all of a sudden started making little to no sense.
21:09.45amathisJeffM2501: you know what the hardest thing about tutorials for me is... figuring out what is just example, or what has to be that way..
21:09.50amathisfor example:
21:10.09amathisstruct sockaddr_in my_addr;
21:10.09amathis<PROTECTED>
21:10.09amathis<PROTECTED>
21:10.36amathisI have no idea what sockaddr_in and my_addr are? are they arbitrary variables?
21:11.14JeffM2501they are the same things
21:11.17JeffM2501my_addr is
21:11.47JeffM2501it's a variable of type sockadr_in
21:11.51JeffM2501and that is a struct
21:11.59JeffM2501defined in one of your included headers
21:12.13JeffM2501get an ide that will show that kinda stuff to you
21:17.34amathisheh
21:17.35amathislike what :P
21:17.52amathisoh, check out my desktop, http://amathis.net/~amathis/screen.png
21:20.31JeffM2501I dono, find an editor or IDE that will do it for you on your OS.
21:20.43amathisI am running anjuta
21:21.28JeffM2501ok then does it support clicking on a type and going to it's definition?
21:21.45amathisnope
21:21.53amathisI think kdevelop does that
21:21.55amathisI am not sure
21:22.18JeffM2501you should find out
21:22.22amathisI am compiling it now
21:22.25JeffM2501those are the tools that help you know what stuff does
21:22.42amathisah
21:24.22JeffM2501bbl
22:02.13amathiswbwb
22:02.25JeffM2501ty
22:02.59amathisI am starting to grasp sockets and packets and stuff
22:03.11JeffM2501cool
22:03.44amathiswhat is an easy, but fun application for practicing?
22:03.57amathisI was thinking about making a aim style chat
22:04.04amathisthat way, I can practice my gtk also
22:04.09JeffM2501ya
22:21.59amathisok, now I am a bit confused.
22:22.00amathis>_<
22:22.41JeffM2501?
22:33.12amathisajust working on stuff
22:42.01amathishmm
22:42.07amathisI think I have an ok chat server working
22:42.15amathiscare to test it out with me?
22:42.34amathistelnet 66.39.186.244 9034
22:42.43amathisuse that command to connect
22:43.26JeffM2501did it
22:52.05amathishrm
23:04.17JeffM2501?
23:07.34amathisjust trying to pull things together
23:07.56amathis.. oh and pull myself together :)
23:08.00amathisbeen sick for the past few days
23:08.21amathisI am thinking about rebooting into windows and getting some work donw
23:08.23amathis*done
23:08.41amathisin VC++, Macromedia MX studio and of course Halo
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