IRC log for #opensuse-us-ut on 20080613

00:54.01sontekdecriptor: ping
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00:56.14*** topic/#opensuse-us-ut by sontek -> http://en.opensuse.org/Local_User_Groups/United_States/Utah | Next Meeting: July 1, 2008 - Kiwi | openSUSE 11.0 Release Party June 19th on Novell campus
03:15.09decriptorsontek: pong
04:29.39sontekdecriptor: pong
04:31.34decriptorsontek: ping
04:31.36decriptor???????
04:32.15sontekdecriptor: pong!
04:33.02decriptorwhat's up
04:35.39sontekjust chilling
04:35.45sontekthinking about formatting
04:37.08decriptorformatting
04:37.09decriptor?
04:37.17decriptoryou check in that webjungle stuff?
04:40.09sonteknot yet, I need to test it before I commit
04:40.15sontekI was working on it while I was in michigan
04:40.39sontekthe goal is to have it ready with a webjungle for opensuse setup for release
04:43.52decriptorcool
04:44.00decriptorI might be able to start helping
04:44.07decriptorplus I'm learning python
05:46.39decriptorsontek: ping
05:46.51sontekpoing
05:47.26decriptorsontek: did you see my email on opensuse-project?
05:47.35sontekwhich one?
05:47.42sontekI haven't checked the lists since like 3 today
05:47.51decriptorthe one I just posted about an hour or so ago about 1 click
05:47.52decriptor?
05:48.07decriptorI think I struck a nerve with druid
05:51.21decriptorsontek: ed6a5b3feb668866df812b1c2aed9d7f
05:52.36sonteksynapse:/media/files/linux # md5sum OS11GLCD.iso
05:52.36sontekc9d2c31ef7a1429d1abbb0cbd3ba505b  OS11GLCD.iso
05:52.53decriptorthat might be a bad image
05:53.01sontekit installed for my laptop
05:53.05decriptorooops
05:53.07decriptorsorry
05:53.09sonteksynapse:/media/files/linux # md5sum OS11GLCD64.iso
05:53.09sontek07317f00f062f9322bb059b42a33781b  OS11GLCD64.iso
05:53.14decriptorc9d2c31ef7a1429d1abbb0cbd3ba505b
05:53.19decriptor07317f00f062f9322bb059b42a33781b
05:53.25decriptorc9d2c31ef7a1429d1abbb0cbd3ba505b
05:53.28decriptorc9d2c31ef7a1429d1abbb0cbd3ba505b
05:53.33sontekok
05:53.33decriptornope its good
05:53.36sontekso its good
05:53.50decriptorI have run into problems with the updater initially and then it went away
05:53.50sontekI boot up in the installer and the installer wont load up
05:53.55decriptornot sure what the deal is
05:53.59sontekso I try to connect to the network and nm-applet crashes
05:54.07sontekand then gnome-terminal wont launch
05:54.10decriptorwhat's your file system
05:54.13sontekworked fine on mine
05:54.17sontekthis is all on katies
05:54.20decriptoroh
05:54.20sontekthere is no file system
05:54.23sontekthats all the livecd
05:54.30decriptoroh the live cd is having problems
05:54.33sontekits broken as hell on her laptop
05:54.41decriptorthat sucks
05:54.50sontekI hope they fix that before they go live
05:54.52decriptorI didn't try it on mine so I'm not sure
05:54.57sontekthat'll be embarrasing to have some laptops not work
05:54.59decriptorthat is the live live cd
05:55.17sontekhers is an old laptop too, so it should have better support
05:55.22sontekits an IBM R40
05:55.57decriptorstrange
05:56.11sontekGAH I think I figured it out
05:56.29sontekher laptop had acpi problems in 10.3 but they fixed it with a kernel update
05:56.38sonteklooks like we have a regression
05:56.42decriptoroh the blessed acpi
05:56.44sontekthe acpi is broken again
05:56.49decriptorsuck
05:57.08decriptorthe live cds they can fix before the launch date I think
05:57.16decriptorso did you go read my email?
05:57.17sontekthat sucks!  that means katie has to stay on 10.3
05:57.24decriptorno
05:57.37decriptorjust tell it no acpi (or does that not work?)
05:57.37sonteki'm not putting her through acpi hell again
05:57.55sontekno acpi works but then she has no power management
05:58.00decriptoroh
05:58.08decriptortalk to coolo
05:58.09sontekwhich isn't helpful for a laptop
05:58.22decriptormaybe they will have a patch sooner than later
05:59.07sontekgoldmaster was today though
05:59.14decriptor?
05:59.34decriptoropenSUSE-11.0-RC1_GM-GNOME-LiveCD-i386.delta.iso       10-Jun-2008 15:52  257M
06:00.05sontekaccording to the road map its today
06:00.11sontekwhat really happened is a different issue
06:00.14decriptorgive or take
06:00.31decriptorthat's from an internal machine
06:00.47decriptorand it takes about a day to push those out to the internal servers
06:01.12sontekwell, with time difference, it could've been close to the 12th in germany
06:01.20decriptorno
06:01.35decriptorit gets pushed from germany so they almost have it a day before us
06:02.54sontekpisses me off that they broke katie's acpi already :P
06:03.24decriptoryeah that does suck especially since they spent some serious time in that area
06:03.45sontekI was monitoring and helping with a specific bug report on this issue for like 6 months
06:04.50sontekyeah, acpi=off makes livecd work flawlessly
06:04.53decriptorits sad, but with opensuse 11.1 moving to OBS hopefully these issues will go away
06:05.10decriptormaybe its just the live installer?
06:05.13sonteki'm going to hit up the lists and see if anyone has any answers
06:05.31decriptorI would
06:05.31sontekno, tomboy and network manager crashed on boot too
06:05.31sontekwith acpi=off they work perfectly
06:05.38sontekbut i'm gonna install and find out :P
06:05.55sontekshe can live without acpi for another 6 months, shes only had it for like 3 ;)
06:06.16decriptorworth a try
06:07.21sonteki'm going to have to drive up to portland and discuss this with GKH ;)
06:07.36decriptorlol
06:07.40sontekhes like 8ft tall though, so the tough guy act isn't going to work
06:07.44decriptorso are you getting him to come and present?
06:07.56sontekhe can't come, he has other things scheduled
06:08.01decriptorsuck
06:08.02decriptor:(
06:08.33sonteknevermind, acpi=off let me *open* the installer
06:08.41sontekcrashes horribly afterwards
06:08.47decriptorawesome
06:09.03decriptorwhat if you load the live cd in failsafe
06:10.47decriptornot that you should have too
06:10.55decriptorbut it would be interesting to see what happens
06:11.35sontektrying now
06:12.16sontekhaha, it says "error reading boot cd" when I boot intoo fail safe
06:12.26decriptornice
06:12.35sontekthis is all messed up =)
06:14.55sontekI wonder if they have any kernel hackers in provo
06:15.01sonteki'd be willing to let them borrow the lappy
06:15.55decriptorthey kind of do.  they major kernel hackers on the xen team though were from NJ and germany
15:00.44decriptorsontek: ping
15:19.02sontekdecriptor: pong
15:19.27decriptorsontek:  where were you yesterday when I had zelut coming after me about 1 click :)
15:19.45sontekwhat was he complaining about?
15:19.52sontekhopefully he wasn't being an idiot like herlo
15:19.59sontek"ITS NOT ONE CLICK OMFG"
15:30.03decriptorsontek: oh yeah
15:30.12decriptorthat's what started the whole thread on -project

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