irclog2html for openzaurus on 2002.09.22

irclog2html for openzaurus on 2002.09.22 01:11:57 Error403 lo all 01:11:59 Error403 kergoth: good news! 01:12:05 Error403 I'm at kde.org on my PDA right now! :) 01:15:11 Error403 works like a charm 01:15:17 Error403 I broke down and bought a CF card and reader 01:18:42 TheMasterMind1 cool 01:18:51 TheMasterMind1 flashed oz 2.9.5.5 ? 01:24:57 Error403 well, yes 01:25:01 Error403 but that's not the cool part 01:25:07 Error403 you don't know the whole story :) 01:25:16 Error403 I'm using a StarTAC modem to do it 01:25:23 Error403 so it's a new definition of "wireless internet" 01:25:34 Error403 Where I get a cell signal, I get 14.4kb/s :) 01:29:18 TheMasterMind1 lol 01:33:31 sambatron from where should I get the config.in ? 01:33:37 TheMasterMind1 also, the path for the sources has changed 01:33:57 TheMasterMind1 its now $(TOPDIR)/packagename/ not $(SOURCE_DIR) 01:34:08 TheMasterMind1 copy config.in from libtool or something 01:34:11 TheMasterMind1 or pcmcia-cs 01:34:18 TheMasterMind1 and change what's necessary 01:34:21 TheMasterMind1 name, depends, desc etc 01:34:28 TheMasterMind1 default will be n 01:34:30 sambatron there is no config.in file in there 01:34:44 sambatron oh, yes 01:34:44 TheMasterMind1 arsenic:/zaurus/buildroot/packages# ls pcmcia-cs/config.in 01:34:45 sambatron sorry 01:35:45 TheMasterMind1 yea, just look at the ones that have been done already and you should be able to figure it out 01:35:51 sambatron sorry, what's the vi command to make a word uppercase = 01:35:52 TheMasterMind1 like libtool and libjpeg don't create ipks 01:35:52 sambatron ? 01:35:55 TheMasterMind1 pcmcia-cs does 01:36:05 TheMasterMind1 stuff like that.. each package has its own quirks 01:36:12 TheMasterMind1 many have patches that we apply etc 01:36:31 sambatron I see 01:36:48 TheMasterMind1 each packagedir/ should have any patches and sources that are in the buildroot 01:36:56 TheMasterMind1 most of the sources are downloaded from bk/http/ftp/cvs 01:37:15 TheMasterMind1 like busybox is cvs, then patched by the buildroot 01:38:19 TheMasterMind1 i'm going to go chill for a while.. bbiaf 01:38:24 sambatron yep 01:38:25 sambatron :) 01:59:49 sambatron what's the vim command to stop autoindenting ... 01:59:50 sambatron ? 02:01:44 TheMasterMind1 :se autoindent=0 02:01:45 sambatron is there somebody here ? I need some help converting the makefiles 02:01:50 sambatron cool :) 02:01:52 TheMasterMind1 im back now 02:01:52 TheMasterMind1 what's up 02:02:03 sambatron Suposedly I have finished with it 02:02:19 sambatron could you take a look (how do I commit it ?) 02:02:25 TheMasterMind1 no fucking clue :D 02:02:27 TheMasterMind1 i'm new to bk 02:02:35 TheMasterMind1 and i can't figure out how to commit my changes either 02:02:40 TheMasterMind1 i'm waiting for kergoth to show up 02:02:42 kagemusha TheMasterMind1: did you get java working? 02:02:44 sambatron :) 02:02:46 TheMasterMind1 did you try compiling it? 02:02:51 TheMasterMind1 change packages/config.in 02:03:01 myuu argh 02:03:02 TheMasterMind1 so it reads fbvncserver's config 02:03:03 TheMasterMind1 .in 02:03:08 TheMasterMind1 then run make 02:03:10 myuu i hate this 02:03:15 TheMasterMind1 it will prompt [y/N] for it 02:03:16 TheMasterMind1 say y 02:03:17 myuu rm lib* 02:03:19 TheMasterMind1 and see if it compiles 02:03:21 TheMasterMind1 etc 02:03:24 myuu no space left on device 02:03:28 TheMasterMind1 myuu: heh 02:03:34 TheMasterMind1 that's sad 02:03:39 sambatron Makefile:13: /Vars.make: No such file or directory 02:03:39 TheMasterMind1 you can delete some of the terminfo files 02:03:47 myuu where? 02:03:50 TheMasterMind1 /usr/share/terminfo/ 02:04:04 TheMasterMind1 delete all dirs except v and V 02:04:09 TheMasterMind1 and i think you'll be fine 02:04:16 TheMasterMind1 i dunno 02:04:27 TheMasterMind1 vt10x are the only terms that are actually used i think 02:04:46 TheMasterMind1 the ncurses Makefile was fixed so it doesn't produce 5megs of worthless terminfos 02:05:10 TheMasterMind1 sambatron: you had include $(TOPDIR)/Vars.make 02:05:10 TheMasterMind1 ? 02:05:22 myuu no space left on device 02:05:23 TheMasterMind1 did you bk get ? 02:05:26 TheMasterMind1 myuu: ouch 02:05:29 TheMasterMind1 that sucks 02:06:04 myuu is there an oz version that runs off the SD 02:06:14 TheMasterMind1 hmm, no 02:06:18 sambatron it doesn't find that file... 02:06:21 TheMasterMind1 you could install stuff to SD 02:06:24 TheMasterMind1 it'd get icky 02:06:37 TheMasterMind1 sambatron: does it exist? 02:06:42 TheMasterMind1 Vars.make in the root of your buildroot 02:06:53 TheMasterMind1 if it doesn't, do bk get in the root of the buildroot 02:06:53 myuu argh 02:06:54 TheMasterMind1 and it will get it 02:07:08 myuu got some links for roms anyway? 02:07:18 TheMasterMind1 myuu: the problem with putting opie on the sd is that if something happens, nothing will start 02:07:30 TheMasterMind1 i guess we could have it so you get dropped in a shell 02:07:35 TheMasterMind1 actually, you already do 02:07:37 sambatron yes, it does exist... maybe the variable TOPDIR is not defined ? 02:07:38 TheMasterMind1 it might work 02:07:45 TheMasterMind1 sambatron: should be 02:07:52 myuu something with sd as / 02:07:54 sambatron where is it defined ? 02:08:24 TheMasterMind1 what did you put for depends? 02:08:26 TheMasterMind1 in config.in 02:08:32 sambatron libc6 02:08:35 TheMasterMind1 ok 02:08:41 TheMasterMind1 myuu: sd as / ? 02:08:42 TheMasterMind1 hmm 02:08:50 TheMasterMind1 that won't work i don't think 02:08:54 TheMasterMind1 you need stuff to mount sd 02:09:00 TheMasterMind1 and if stuff is on sd itself, you have a problem 02:09:13 TheMasterMind1 you can try crow's rom 02:09:19 TheMasterMind1: excuse me? 02:09:19 TheMasterMind1 ibot crow 02:09:22 TheMasterMind1: sorry... 02:09:22 TheMasterMind1 ibot crows rom 02:09:25 myuu =\ 02:09:27 TheMasterMind1 google it 02:09:34 TheMasterMind1: sorry... 02:09:34 TheMasterMind1 ibot crow rom 02:09:44 well, rom is Read Only Memory 02:09:44 myuu ibot rom 02:10:17 i guess wiki is http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/HandheldsWiki or http://www.zauruszone.farplanet.net/wiki/ or a user-editable web site 02:10:17 TheMasterMind1 ibot wiki 02:10:19 TheMasterMind1 look there 02:10:25 TheMasterMind1 sambatron: any luck? 02:10:30 sambatron nopes 02:10:37 sambatron where is that topdir defined ? 02:10:48 sambatron my shell ? 02:11:07 TheMasterMind1 no 02:11:11 TheMasterMind1 buildroot/Makefile 02:11:16 TheMasterMind1 the main make file 02:11:18 TheMasterMind1 which calls the other ones 02:11:29 TheMasterMind1 export TOPDIR:=${shell pwd} 02:11:29 TheMasterMind1 include $(TOPDIR)/Vars.make 02:11:41 sambatron oh, I see I was calling directly the makefile of the fbvnc... 02:12:02 TheMasterMind1 oh 02:12:03 TheMasterMind1 don't 02:12:09 TheMasterMind1 add it to the main config.in 02:12:12 TheMasterMind1 and then run make 02:12:21 TheMasterMind1 it will ask if you want to compile fbvncserver 02:12:22 sambatron but the main makefile fails 02:12:22 TheMasterMind1 say y 02:12:26 TheMasterMind1 and it will compile stuff 02:12:45 TheMasterMind1 what does it fail on? 02:12:47 TheMasterMind1 what does it say 02:12:50 TheMasterMind1 copy/paste 02:12:53 sambatron make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/home/jorge/prog/zaurus/oz/buildroot-oz/stamps/.ipkg-x86.sourcetree', needed by `/home/jorge/prog/zaurus/oz/buildroot-oz/stamps/.ipkg-x86.binary'. Stop. 02:13:13 TheMasterMind1 try 02:13:15 TheMasterMind1 make distclean 02:13:18 TheMasterMind1 and redo it 02:13:26 TheMasterMind1 as in, type make again 02:14:12 sambatron cool. Now I have to add fbvnc to the main config.in ? 02:14:22 sambatron do I ? 02:14:31 TheMasterMind1 yes 02:14:36 TheMasterMind1 for it to recognize that it exists 02:14:39 TheMasterMind1 packages/config.in 02:14:50 TheMasterMind1 not buildroot/config.in 02:14:57 TheMasterMind1 buildroot/packages/config.in 02:15:44 sambatron vi packages/fbvncserver/config.in 02:15:45 sambatron ??? 02:15:57 TheMasterMind1 vi packages/config.in 02:15:59 myuu =/ 02:16:09 TheMasterMind1 bk get in packages/ if that doesn't exist 02:17:28 sambatron fails, I need a user and pass for busybox cvs repo 02:17:54 sambatron sorry, for ipk 02:17:55 TheMasterMind1 anoncvs 02:18:09 TheMasterMind1 hmm, it should have gotten .cvspass file 02:18:12 TheMasterMind1 and not ask your for pass 02:18:20 sambatron I have no .cvspass file 02:18:24 TheMasterMind1 sounds like you didn't download everything from the tree properly 02:18:36 TheMasterMind1 arsenic:/zaurus/buildroot# bk get 02:18:36 TheMasterMind1 .cvspass 1.3: 3 lines 02:18:43 TheMasterMind1 it gets it for me 02:19:20 sambatron yes, it got it... maybe the distclean removed it 02:19:31 TheMasterMind1 maybe 02:19:46 sambatron make: *** /home/jorge/prog/zaurus/oz/buildroot-oz/build/ipkg-x86/C/busybox-0.60.3: No such file or directory. Stop. 02:19:46 sambatron make: Entering an unknown directorymake: Leaving an unknown directorymake[2]: *** [/home/jorge/prog/zaurus/oz/buildroot-oz/stamps/.ipkg-x86.binary] Error 2 02:19:51 sambatron new error 02:20:05 TheMasterMind1 hmm 02:20:06 TheMasterMind1 wtf 02:20:11 TheMasterMind1 sounds like it didn't download from cvs 02:20:20 TheMasterMind1 i sugesst up and start over :D 02:20:27 TheMasterMind1 rm -rf stamps/.* 02:20:45 TheMasterMind1 that should rebuild stuff 02:21:01 TheMasterMind1 and maybe rm -rf build/ipkg* 02:21:15 myuu TMM-play with X? 02:21:22 TheMasterMind1 nope 02:21:23 TheMasterMind1 haven't 02:21:28 TheMasterMind1 i'm waiting for picogui 02:21:30 TheMasterMind1 that's going to own 02:21:37 myuu really! 02:21:42 myuu any screenshots 02:21:54 TheMasterMind1 picogui.org 02:22:06 TheMasterMind1 not many zaurus screenshots 02:22:12 TheMasterMind1 its more of a run it anywhere gui thing 02:22:16 TheMasterMind1 but its really awesome 02:22:22 myuu whens the release? 02:22:31 TheMasterMind1 soon 02:22:35 TheMasterMind1 heh 02:22:37 TheMasterMind1 a week maybe 02:22:42 myuu wowo 02:22:44 TheMasterMind1 its been 2.5years developing already 02:22:46 sambatron same problem 02:23:02 myuu ive seen it a couple times 02:23:26 TheMasterMind1 hmm 02:23:26 myuu i thought it was a frontend for pico =X 02:23:33 TheMasterMind1 maybe the cvs is down? 02:24:30 sambatron /buildroot-oz/build/ipkg-x86/ this directory doesn'T exist 02:25:17 TheMasterMind1 and you rm -rf stamps/.ipkg* 02:25:18 TheMasterMind1 ? 02:25:22 sambatron yep 02:26:24 sambatron got it O:) 02:26:34 sambatron I had to copy the .cvspass to my home O:) 02:27:01 sambatron this will take a while, right ? 02:28:33 TheMasterMind1 maybe 02:31:07 sambatron guess I'm going to bed... it's 5:37 here 02:31:27 TheMasterMind1 k 02:31:36 sambatron thanks for the insight 02:31:40 TheMasterMind1 np 02:31:57 sambatron I'll come often here to help, I'd love to develop something for this project 02:32:02 myuu http://picogui.org/download/puchuu_lain.jpeg 02:32:32 sambatron bye 02:32:40 myuu bastards, appealing by using lain 02:34:02 TheMasterMind1 later 02:35:20 TheMasterMind1 smacks kergoth 02:35:33 TheMasterMind1 wake up you lazy whore 02:35:55 MSpin awwww...OZ brings out the best in all of us:) 02:37:16 myuu well TMM you've got me excited =/ 02:37:30 TheMasterMind1 heh 02:37:41 TheMasterMind1 btw, scanline is the picogui guy 02:37:48 TheMasterMind1 you can talk to him when he's around 02:38:09 TheMasterMind1 someone gimme kergoth's phone # 02:57:15 Error403 kergoth: There? :) 02:58:12 Error403 I just want to know when a new kernel is going to be released for OZ so that I can actually run really intense applications 02:58:19 Error403 or have an uptime longer than a day :) 02:58:39 Error403 (due to the memory problems with the current kernel) 05:35:39 Onyx4 hey 05:35:44 kergoth hey 05:36:53 Onyx4 anything new since friday evening? 05:37:18 kergoth nah, i spent all day out with friends. helping people move, seeing a movie, that sort of thing 05:37:28 kergoth right now i'm beating on the buildsystem, seeing if i can make it fall on its face 05:37:32 Onyx4 I went to see a race today at laguna seca 05:37:52 kergoth nice 05:38:40 Onyx4 I need to upgrade my opie, it's so old compared to what they are running now 05:41:03 Onyx4 we would need tmake for the build system first 05:41:13 Onyx4 then maybe a few other things, I think pam is required by opie 05:41:53 kergoth Onyx4: nope 05:42:10 kergoth Onyx4: quick -D on the compile line and opie-login uses normal auth methods 05:42:13 kergoth Onyx4: :) 05:42:18 kergoth Onyx4: the patch is in packages/opie 05:42:32 Onyx4 hehe ok 05:42:56 Onyx4 oh looks like they are building opieirc application 05:42:58 Onyx4 that's kind of cool 05:43:29 kergoth yeah 05:43:35 kergoth since zic doenst seem to be being developers 05:43:39 kergoth er 05:43:41 kergoth developed 05:43:42 Onyx4 right 05:43:43 kergoth damn fingers, obey me! 06:11:21 scanline is back (gone 06:19:17) 06:11:27 scanline oh wow.. I didn't think I was gone that long 06:11:44 kergoth hehe 06:11:48 scanline It would be easy to port xchat to Qt 07:56:49 Onyx4: sorry... 07:56:49 Onyx4 ibot: mastermind 07:56:55 i think themastermind1 is the master at the mind. or a 15 year old oz developer or a l33t haxxor 07:56:55 Onyx4 ibot: themastermind1 08:30:32 scanline is away: sleep or something... 09:06:32 Wembly hello? 09:06:40 Wembly why is it when i upgrade busybox... it hates me 09:06:49 Wembly and refuses to perform an ls or anything? 09:07:10 Wembly keeps saying illegal instruction 10:42:07 sambatron hello 10:51:08 sambatron nobody in here ? 11:28:05 TheMasterMind1 hmm 11:28:09 TheMasterMind1 who's alive now? 11:28:28 TheMasterMind1 Onyx4, KeyserSoze ? 11:28:35 TheMasterMind1 err 11:28:36 TheMasterMind1 kergoth`zzz: 11:28:57 sambatron hello ! 11:29:04 TheMasterMind1 sup 11:29:18 sambatron my sources don't compile :) 11:29:37 sambatron would you like to see the error ? 11:29:45 sambatron is not the fbvncserver package 11:30:19 TheMasterMind1 ok 11:30:21 TheMasterMind1 show 11:31:31 sambatron (making...) 11:31:49 TheMasterMind1 bk pull btw 11:31:51 TheMasterMind1 kergoth did some work 11:32:24 sambatron entry-armv.S: Assembler messages: 11:32:24 sambatron entry-armv.S:899: Error: Internal_relocation (type 210) not fixed up (OFFSET_IMM) 11:32:24 sambatron entry-armv.S:901: Error: Internal_relocation (type 208) not fixed up (IMMEDIATE) 11:32:24 sambatron entry-armv.S:948: Error: Internal_relocation (type 210) not fixed up (OFFSET_IMM) 11:32:24 sambatron entry-armv.S:949: Error: Internal_relocation (type 210) not fixed up (OFFSET_IMM) 11:32:24 sambatron entry-armv.S:950: Error: Internal_relocation (type 210) not fixed up (OFFSET_IMM) 11:32:26 sambatron entry-armv.S:1238: Error: Cannot represent SWI relocation in this object file format 11:32:28 sambatron make[4]: *** [entry-armv.o] Error 1 11:33:22 sambatron btw why does it recreates the dependencies everytime I run make ? 11:33:48 TheMasterMind1 its being stupid.. 11:33:59 TheMasterMind1 it shouldn't, it should create stamps 11:34:03 TheMasterMind1 and know that it already made em 11:34:09 TheMasterMind1 what package is this error in? 11:34:41 sambatron buildroot-oz/build/linux/arch/arm/kernel 11:36:13 TheMasterMind1 hmm 11:36:15 TheMasterMind1 that's not good 11:36:32 TheMasterMind1 compiles fine for me 11:36:39 TheMasterMind1 has been compiling for a while 11:36:43 sambatron maybe I'm doing something wrong... 11:36:47 TheMasterMind1 we haven't changed anything in the kernel 11:39:15 sambatron how could I be sure that my sources are synch'ed ? 11:40:15 TheMasterMind1 i take taht back 11:40:19 TheMasterMind1 i just got the same error 11:40:24 TheMasterMind1 someone fucked something up 11:40:42 sambatron can everybody write to the repo ? 11:40:46 TheMasterMind1 btw, you do have your toolchain and stuff setup 11:40:54 TheMasterMind1 nope, you need access to write 11:40:55 TheMasterMind1 afaik 11:41:06 sambatron what's toolchain ? 11:41:19 Wembly hey mastermind.. 11:41:28 Wembly wtf is up with busybox revision2? 11:41:48 TheMasterMind1 no clue 11:41:57 TheMasterMind1 i'm trying to figure this pos bk crap out 11:42:00 Wembly hehe 11:42:12 Wembly you have busybox revsision2 on yours? 11:42:17 TheMasterMind1 nope 11:42:20 TheMasterMind1 i'm running really old stuff 11:42:26 Wembly bah 11:42:33 TheMasterMind1 can't upgrade until buildroot is working again 11:42:40 Wembly why not? 11:43:09 TheMasterMind1 cuz its too much work 11:43:18 Wembly why not use ipkg? 11:43:38 TheMasterMind1 where are the ipks? 11:44:52 TheMasterMind1 grrr 11:44:56 TheMasterMind1 kergoth`zzz: WAKE UP 11:48:28 TheMasterMind1 anyone around who knows how to work bitkeeper? 12:04:21 TheMasterMind1 aha 12:04:27 TheMasterMind1 i figured out how to edit files properly 12:04:29 TheMasterMind1 bk vi filename 12:07:16 Wembly omg 12:07:21 Wembly you have to edit files that way? 12:07:27 TheMasterMind1 yea 12:07:30 Wembly ouch 12:07:32 TheMasterMind1 or do bk edit filename 12:07:34 TheMasterMind1 and then edit 12:07:38 TheMasterMind1 and then somehow unlock the file 12:07:42 TheMasterMind1 can't figure out how to unlock 12:07:45 Wembly bk release? 12:16:48 TheMasterMind1 nope 12:16:49 TheMasterMind1 its weird 12:16:54 TheMasterMind1 i fucked up my bk tree 12:17:01 TheMasterMind1 ran lots of weird commands 12:17:05 TheMasterMind1 trying to figure it out 12:17:08 TheMasterMind1 now its all screwed up 13:00:42 doQment hi. 15:56:16 jmhodges heya kergoth 16:00:01 TheMasterMind1 kergoth: 16:00:02 TheMasterMind1 ok 16:00:04 TheMasterMind1 3 things 16:00:08 TheMasterMind1 1) how the hell do i use bk 16:00:17 TheMasterMind1 2) how do i do sourcetreedepends 16:00:25 TheMasterMind1 3) how do i patch with -p0 16:00:53 TheMasterMind1 also, sambatron is doing makefile portinf for us too 16:01:06 TheMasterMind1 i update some, but i can't figure out how to push changes 16:01:14 TheMasterMind1 and bk citool and al the other tools don't work 16:01:16 kergoth 1) bk -r edit -q .. edit files .. bk ci -y"message" filename .. eventually when you've got a bunch of files in and you want to give them to someone, or to me, you create a 'changeset' by doing bk commit 16:01:21 TheMasterMind1 Cannot find wish to run 16:01:21 kergoth bk citool works, its X though 16:01:25 kergoth wish is tcl 16:01:28 kergoth apt-get install tcl 16:01:37 TheMasterMind1 ok 16:01:39 kergoth 2) unknown, let me think about it. it'll be a bitch 16:01:51 kergoth 3) easy, but not added yet, give me about 15 mins 16:01:53 kergoth :) 16:01:56 TheMasterMind1 ok 16:02:04 TheMasterMind1 i need sourcetreedepends too 16:02:10 TheMasterMind1 hmm 16:02:25 kergoth well, i can give you sourcetreedepends, but it'll be . interesting 16:02:27 kergoth give me a sec 16:02:29 kergoth brb 16:03:02 TheMasterMind1 my tree is all messed up. i ran a bunch of weird commands to try to get stuff working and made a bunch of changes, but now there's a different version that i have and a different one in the repository 16:03:10 TheMasterMind1 also, kernel isn't compiling 16:03:13 kergoth okay, check this 16:03:26 kergoth if you edited a file, but didnt bk ci it, you run 'bk unedit filename' to throw away your changes 16:03:41 TheMasterMind1 ok 16:04:06 kergoth sourcetreedepends.. let me explain a bit here 16:04:11 kergoth right now, all dependencies are handled in the config.in files 16:04:13 kergoth with 'depends' 16:04:16 TheMasterMind1 right 16:04:21 kergoth so that you cant say, select bash without having selected ncurses 16:04:31 kergoth the problem is, I'm going to autogenerate our actual makefile dependencies from that 16:04:31 TheMasterMind1 ok 16:04:41 kergoth and i dont see a way to reflect sourcetreedepends in config.in files 16:04:44 kergoth you see what i mean? 16:04:48 TheMasterMind1 yea 16:05:00 kergoth so we'll need a manual way to do it for just this one, or i need to think up a sane way to do it overall 16:05:04 TheMasterMind1 we could do it some icky way 16:05:09 kergoth I have an idea, let me test it 16:05:20 TheMasterMind1 can you just make sourcetree on something 16:05:30 kergoth check this 16:05:32 kergoth from the root 16:05:36 kergoth you can do make sources to d/l *all* the sources 16:05:45 kergoth and make sourcetrees to extract everything 16:05:45 TheMasterMind1 hmm 16:05:48 kergoth :) 16:05:52 TheMasterMind1 can't you do it for one package only 16:05:57 TheMasterMind1 then we can call that from qte's makefile 16:06:04 kergoth which means, each makefile in packages/blah has a 'sources' and 'sourcetrees' target 16:06:06 TheMasterMind1 make source opie or something 16:06:09 TheMasterMind1 exactly 16:06:12 kergoth so make -C $(TOPDIR)/packages/opie sourcetrees; 16:06:14 kergoth boom 16:06:16 kergoth :) 16:06:18 TheMasterMind1 alright 16:06:19 TheMasterMind1 perfect 16:06:29 TheMasterMind1 fix up patching and tell me how to set that option 16:06:33 kergoth I made sure i had that working, cause i knew we'd run into this 16:06:36 kergoth okay 16:06:53 TheMasterMind1 and how do i commit.. need a password or rsa key setup or what? 16:07:05 kergoth have yoiu figured out editing and ci'ing in your own tree yet? 16:07:07 kergoth :) 16:07:09 TheMasterMind1 yea 16:07:12 TheMasterMind1 bk vi file 16:07:16 TheMasterMind1 i like it that way 16:07:21 TheMasterMind1 so other stuff is locked 16:07:29 TheMasterMind1 and bk ci/citool 16:07:30 kergoth well, other stuff doesnt need to be locked on your personal tree 16:07:36 TheMasterMind1 ok 16:07:39 kergoth unless you give someone else access to it 16:07:42 TheMasterMind1 but if i make everything edit 16:07:46 kergoth cause then they couldnt do a damn thing, cause everything is locked 16:07:49 kergoth hehe 16:07:51 TheMasterMind1 lol 16:07:51 TheMasterMind1 ok 16:07:59 TheMasterMind1 make[4]: Entering directory `/zaurus/buildroot/build/linux/arch/arm/kernel' 16:08:00 TheMasterMind1 arm-linux-gcc -D__ASSEMBLY__ -D__KERNEL__ -I/zaurus/buildroot/build/linux/include -mapcs-32 -march=armv4 -mno-fpu -c -o entry-armv.o entry-armv.S 16:08:00 TheMasterMind1 entry-armv.S: Assembler messages: 16:08:00 TheMasterMind1 entry-armv.S:899: Error: Internal_relocation (type 210) not fixed up (OFFSET_IMM) 16:08:00 TheMasterMind1 entry-armv.S:901: Error: Internal_relocation (type 208) not fixed up (IMMEDIATE) 16:08:01 TheMasterMind1 entry-armv.S:948: Error: Internal_relocation (type 210) not fixed up (OFFSET_IMM) 16:08:03 TheMasterMind1 entry-armv.S:949: Error: Internal_relocation (type 210) not fixed up (OFFSET_IMM) 16:08:07 TheMasterMind1 entry-armv.S:950: Error: Internal_relocation (type 210) not fixed up (OFFSET_IMM) 16:08:07 kergoth anyway, once you have a set of changes checked in with bk ci 16:08:07 TheMasterMind1 entry-armv.S:1238: Error: Cannot represent SWI relocation in this object file format 16:08:09 TheMasterMind1 make[4]: *** [entry-armv.o] Error 1 16:08:11 TheMasterMind1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/zaurus/buildroot/build/linux/arch/arm/kernel' 16:08:15 TheMasterMind1 kernel isn't compiling 16:08:17 TheMasterMind1 for me or sambatron 16:08:17 kergoth you create a ChangeSet with bk commit/citool 16:08:20 TheMasterMind1 laptop:/zaurus/buildroot# bk citool 16:08:21 TheMasterMind1 Cannot find wish to run 16:08:23 kergoth TheMasterMind1: make distclean the kernel 16:08:23 TheMasterMind1 :\ 16:08:27 TheMasterMind1 i installed tcl 16:08:28 kergoth TheMasterMind1: cd build/linux; make distclean; 16:08:32 TheMasterMind1 wait, no i didn't 16:08:55 TheMasterMind1 E: Package tcl has no installation candidate 16:09:01 TheMasterMind1 tcl8.3 16:09:08 kergoth go with tcl8.3 16:09:10 kergoth that should be fine 16:09:14 kergoth its what i'm using here 16:09:17 TheMasterMind1 k 16:09:21 kergoth each makefile has a 'install' target too 16:09:28 TheMasterMind1 ok 16:09:30 kergoth make -C packages/blah install; will install its ipk into the rootfs :) 16:09:36 kergoth kinda nifty, if i do say so myself 16:09:47 kergoth make image calls that on every makefile before creating the initrd.bin 16:09:50 TheMasterMind1 also, what's up with the clone vs. get thing 16:09:56 TheMasterMind1 why do you have to bk get after the clone 16:10:02 kergoth okay check this 16:10:04 kergoth you've used cvs right? 16:10:09 TheMasterMind1 citool still don't work 16:10:16 TheMasterMind1 yes, i've used cvs 16:10:22 TheMasterMind1 only with buildroot 16:10:24 kergoth with cvs, there's one repository, and its upstream 16:10:30 TheMasterMind1 yea 16:10:33 kergoth with bitkeeper, you use clone to copy the whole repository locally 16:10:37 kergoth now you have a local repository 16:10:39 TheMasterMind1 alright 16:10:41 kergoth and you interact with it like you would with cvs 16:10:44 kergoth cvs co 16:10:46 kergoth etc 16:10:52 TheMasterMind1 ok 16:10:52 kergoth only slightly different commands 16:11:04 kergoth then you use bk pull/bk push to send/receive ChangeSets between repositories 16:11:12 kergoth there's nothing special about the one on bkbits, its just another clone 16:11:23 kergoth but it happens to be web accessable :) 16:11:24 TheMasterMind1 ok 16:11:37 TheMasterMind1 so clone just clones the rep, but get gets the files? 16:11:42 TheMasterMind1 something like that.. 16:11:56 kergoth you have the rep, but you need to checkout the files 16:11:59 kergoth like what cvs co did 16:12:04 kergoth bk -r co -q will do it 16:12:04 TheMasterMind1 ah 16:12:05 TheMasterMind1 ok 16:12:07 kergoth and its closer to cvs 16:12:09 kergoth 'co' 16:12:16 kergoth so use that, to avoid getting confused 16:12:30 TheMasterMind1 aha 16:12:39 TheMasterMind1 it needed tk8.3 16:12:46 kergoth ahhh forgot about that 16:12:57 kergoth most things do need tcl/tk both 16:13:04 TheMasterMind1 yea 16:13:33 TheMasterMind1 whats that command that goes through all changed files and lets you comment them? 16:13:44 TheMasterMind1 oh, and how do i get access to commit? 16:13:45 kergoth well, you can do that when you bk ci 16:13:48 kergoth bk ci -y "message" blah; 16:14:02 kergoth you can commit now, it commits the changeset into *your* repository, it just wont be in mine 16:14:04 kergoth yet 16:14:17 TheMasterMind1 and how do i push it to the bkbits one? 16:14:35 kergoth bk push 16:14:38 kergoth but 16:14:43 kergoth you cloned teh http tree right 16:14:46 TheMasterMind1 yea 16:14:47 kergoth you cant push to http 16:14:51 kergoth cause its the web you know 16:14:51 TheMasterMind1 oh 16:14:56 kergoth but 16:15:03 kergoth if you change the parent of the repository to the one that'll let you push, 16:15:06 TheMasterMind1 ok 16:15:09 TheMasterMind1 what do i change it to 16:15:10 kergoth then it prompts you for your key password on every bk pull 16:15:12 kergoth which is a pain in the ass 16:15:25 TheMasterMind1 hmm 16:15:30 kergoth you can also bk push [parent] .. specify where to push 16:15:41 kergoth so its bk push bk://openzaurus@openzaurus.bkbits.net/buildroot 16:15:47 TheMasterMind1 ah 16:15:47 TheMasterMind1 ok 16:15:51 kergoth *after* you create teh changeset with commit/citool 16:15:56 TheMasterMind1 and i have to setup my key and such? 16:16:00 kergoth and I need to add your sshv1 key 16:16:03 kergoth yeah 16:16:09 kergoth give me a 'identity.pub' you want to use for this 16:16:29 kergoth bk is pretty fucking sweet, but it takes a little getting used to :) 16:18:37 kergoth TheMasterMind1: done, you have the ability to push 16:18:44 kergoth TheMasterMind1: just make sure you dont screw anything up :-P 16:19:06 TheMasterMind1 heh 16:19:29 kergoth hehe 16:19:41 kergoth just like cvs, i can always revert if someone does something stupid, so its not a prob 16:20:18 TheMasterMind1 laptop:/zaurus/buildroot# bk ci packages/libjpeg62/Makefile 16:20:18 TheMasterMind1 delta: packages/libjpeg62/SCCS/s.Makefile is not locked. 16:20:20 TheMasterMind1 what's tha tmean? 16:20:58 kergoth its not locked? that means its not locked :) 16:21:07 kergoth if you edited it, you did it without doing a bk edit or bk vi 16:21:10 kergoth i.e. forced the changes 16:21:13 TheMasterMind1 ok 16:21:14 kergoth if thats the case 16:21:17 kergoth do this 16:21:19 kergoth mv Makefile Makefile.new 16:21:23 kergoth bk edit Makefile 16:21:25 kergoth mv Makefile.new Makefile 16:21:30 kergoth bk ci Makefile 16:21:30 TheMasterMind1 alright 16:21:32 kergoth :) 16:24:17 TheMasterMind1 hmm 16:24:19 TheMasterMind1 when you ci 16:24:21 TheMasterMind1 it dissapears 16:24:40 TheMasterMind1 should i do openlogging? 16:24:46 kergoth yes, do it 16:24:49 kergoth oh yeah 16:25:00 kergoth when you ci, it goes into the repository, but doesnt co it for you automatically 16:25:07 kergoth just bk -r co -q after ci'ing 16:25:11 TheMasterMind1 laptop:/zaurus/buildroot# bk push bk://openzaurus.bkbits.net/buildroot 16:25:11 TheMasterMind1 ERROR-BAD CMD: push_part1, Try help 16:25:13 kergoth or bk -r edit -q, or just bk co that one file 16:25:19 kergoth thats the wrong command 16:25:27 kergoth [12:15] < kergoth> so its bk push bk://openzaurus@openzaurus.bkbits.net/buildroot 16:25:31 TheMasterMind1 oh 16:25:35 kergoth fyi 16:25:39 kergoth you can do the patch -p0 16:25:41 kergoth already 16:25:43 kergoth i forgot i added it 16:25:46 kergoth hehe 16:25:58 TheMasterMind1 how though? 16:26:06 TheMasterMind1 ok i commited some stuff 16:26:11 kergoth $(Sources) = blah.tar.gz; \ 16:26:15 kergoth blah.patch pnum=0; 16:26:18 kergoth :) 16:26:32 TheMasterMind1 ok 16:26:38 kergoth <source><space>options<semicolon> 16:26:40 kergoth thats the format 16:26:44 kergoth in general 16:26:46 kergoth i.e. cvs 16:26:47 TheMasterMind1 gotcha 16:26:55 kergoth :pserver:blah@blah:/cvsroot module=blah; 16:27:22 kergoth where 'module' is a supported option in cvs 16:27:34 kergoth there's others, like setting a tag or date to pull from cvs at 16:31:40 kergoth TheMasterMind1: btw, its $(MAKE) not $(Make) 16:31:56 TheMasterMind1 hmm ok 16:32:02 TheMasterMind1 i saw $(Make) somewhere 16:33:11 kergoth bk pull, corrected 16:33:16 kergoth have you tested make image yet? 16:34:08 kergoth TheMasterMind1: btw, apmd depends on libtool. now that libtool is converted we can convert apmd and add depends LIBTOOL in its config.in 16:34:11 kergoth :) 16:34:48 TheMasterMind1 wasn't there a command that went through all changed files.. 16:34:54 TheMasterMind1 and asked for comments 16:34:58 TheMasterMind1 bk ci you have to specifiy file 16:35:27 TheMasterMind1 packages/qte-2.3.4/config.in not checked in, use -i flag. 16:35:29 TheMasterMind1 i'm so confused.. 16:36:04 TheMasterMind1 oh, it doesn't exist 16:36:06 TheMasterMind1 so i bk add 16:36:24 kergoth you specify per file comments when you ci 16:36:34 kergoth you can also specify a comment for the whole changeset you generate 16:36:42 kergoth bk citool lets you change the per file comments after teh fact though 16:36:48 kergoth and it lets you set the changeset comment 16:36:59 kergoth i dont use the guis much, but they're quite nifty 16:37:16 TheMasterMind1 ok so i made some ci's 16:37:19 TheMasterMind1 now the files are gone 16:38:35 kergoth yeah, then bk co them again 16:38:37 kergoth or do what i do 16:38:42 kergoth i just bk -r co -q after doing a ci 16:38:50 TheMasterMind1 hmm 16:38:50 TheMasterMind1 ok 16:38:52 kergoth btw, -q is silent, otherwise it'll dump every filename it co's 16:38:54 kergoth hehe 16:39:16 TheMasterMind1 yea 16:39:42 TheMasterMind1 i'll figure this all out eventually 16:46:47 sambatron hello 16:46:59 sambatron I'm back... 16:47:06 kergoth greetings 16:47:37 sambatron greetings kergoth, I've benn talking to TheMasterMind1 16:47:45 sambatron I would like to help on the project 16:48:04 kergoth It'd be greatly appreciated 16:48:23 sambatron I downloaded bitkeeper, and have the sources... 16:48:49 sambatron yesterday with the help of TheMasterMind1 I converted fbvncserver Makefile to the new form 16:48:59 kergoth did you convert libvncserver yet? 16:49:04 kergoth fbvncserver requires it :) 16:49:13 kergoth 'build' dependency, so to speak. uses libvncserver.a 16:49:34 sambatron no I haven't 16:49:43 kergoth thatd be next, if you're up for it 16:49:45 kergoth :) 16:50:00 sambatron but how do I test if I did it correctly with fbvncserver ? 16:50:15 kergoth make config 16:50:22 kergoth hit 'y' for fbvncserver 16:50:25 kergoth then make 16:50:28 kergoth and see whether it explodes 16:50:30 kergoth :) 16:50:31 sambatron ./scripts/lkc/conf -s ./config.in 16:50:31 sambatron can't find file packages/libtool/config.in 16:51:29 sambatron why is that ? 16:51:52 kergoth pester TheMasterMind1 16:51:59 kergoth he forgot to add config.in for libtool :) 16:52:06 kergoth or forgot to include it in the changeset when he did the push 16:52:34 TheMasterMind1 bk pull 16:53:11 kergoth starting work on qt/e eh? 16:53:23 TheMasterMind1 yea 16:53:38 TheMasterMind1 i wanna try out the new opie stuff 16:54:44 sambatron make config ... does not show me fbvncserver 16:54:47 TheMasterMind1 grr. this is quite annoying 16:54:56 TheMasterMind1 sambatron: add it to packages/config.in 16:55:03 TheMasterMind1 whydo i have ot bk co after every bk ci 16:55:20 kergoth TheMasterMind1: it doesnt automatically check it back out of your repos 16:55:25 kergoth TheMasterMind1: you could do a quick and dirty shell script 16:55:59 kergoth like function bkci () { bk ci -y "$2" $1; bk co $1; } 16:56:03 kergoth put that in your .bashrc 16:56:03 TheMasterMind1 hmm 16:56:05 sambatron damn, all the changes I did have been overwritten ! 16:56:08 kergoth then run bkci filename message 16:56:15 TheMasterMind1 ick 16:56:20 kergoth sambatron: bk -r edit -q before making changes 16:56:59 TheMasterMind1 hmm 16:57:04 TheMasterMind1 is apmd supposed to be in the new format? 16:57:11 kergoth i dont think its been converted yet 16:57:17 TheMasterMind1 ok 16:57:24 kergoth TheMasterMind1: btw, please compile test before commit 16:57:30 kergoth TheMasterMind1: you had $(Make) in libtool, failed out 16:58:04 TheMasterMind1 yea 16:58:07 TheMasterMind1 i'm getting used to this still 16:58:20 kergoth quite a few changes all at once 16:58:24 sambatron for every file do I have to do the bk -r edit ? 16:58:27 kergoth new config system, changed paths, bk.. 16:58:31 TheMasterMind1 yes 16:58:37 kergoth sambatron: -r is recursive. it does bk edit on every file in the repository 16:58:37 TheMasterMind1 sambatron: bk edit file 16:58:41 TheMasterMind1 or -r recursive 16:58:46 sambatron ok 16:58:49 TheMasterMind1 hmm, that bkci needs to edit the file too 16:58:56 kergoth hehe 16:58:58 kergoth change it then 16:59:05 TheMasterMind1 function bkci () { bk ci -y "$2" $1; bk co $1; bk edit $1 } 16:59:12 kergoth you can just bk edit 16:59:15 kergoth it does the co for you 16:59:17 kergoth :) 17:02:18 TheMasterMind1 after a bunch of ci's 17:02:22 TheMasterMind1 i commit then push yes? 17:02:26 kergoth yup 17:02:29 kergoth what i do 17:02:39 kergoth function bkpush () { bk commit -d && bk push bk://openzaurus@openzaurus.bkbits.net/buildroot; } 17:02:41 kergoth that :) 17:02:49 TheMasterMind1 -d 17:02:51 TheMasterMind1 ? 17:03:01 kergoth commit -d uses the default changeset comment, which is a list of files you changed and each file's comment from bk ci 17:03:08 kergoth I just use ci to comment each file and use the default changeset comment, myself 17:03:15 kergoth but i dont use bk citool 17:03:18 kergoth so i try to save time that way 17:03:51 TheMasterMind1 yea 17:03:53 TheMasterMind1 i don't like bk citool 17:04:15 kergoth yeah, it works, but its not pretty 17:04:22 kergoth have you tried bk revtool yet? 17:04:24 kergoth kinda nifty 17:05:01 TheMasterMind1 not yet 17:05:38 sambatron I have a stamp-rootinstall on pcmcia-cs Makefile and but in fbvncserver Makefile I have SubBinaryInstallCmds and BinaryInstallCmds 17:05:49 sambatron how does that match 17:05:50 sambatron ? 17:05:52 TheMasterMind1 intersting 17:06:10 TheMasterMind1 sambatron: you're supposed to update the BinaryInstall stuff to the new format 17:06:44 sambatron with a "stamp-subbinaryinstallcmds" ? 17:07:08 TheMasterMind1 no, there's no subbinary 17:07:20 sambatron or as "stamp-rootinstall" and "stamp-subrootinstall" 17:07:22 sambatron ? 17:08:11 kergoth sambatron: read CONVERSIOn 17:08:18 sambatron I have 17:08:21 kergoth sambatron: packages that use SubBinaryInstallCmds are multi-ipk builds. 17:08:50 kergoth sambatron: split the commands in SubBinaryInstallCmds into seperate $(stamp-packagename-rootinstall) targets 17:08:58 TheMasterMind1 look at ncurses 17:09:01 kergoth sambatron: then make $(stamp-packagename-ipk) targets depend on them 17:09:01 TheMasterMind1 it does multiple ipks 17:09:06 kergoth yeah, exactly 17:09:14 sambatron ok 17:09:53 TheMasterMind1 i need a way to see what files i have edited and not ci'ed yet 17:09:56 TheMasterMind1 i can never keep track ofthat 17:10:00 kergoth oh i can tell you that 17:10:04 kergoth bk status 17:10:23 kergoth will show you how many files are edited but not ci'd, and how many are ci'd but not committed 17:10:38 kergoth you can do bk -r diffs to see a recursive diff of the changes you've made but not ci'd 17:10:38 TheMasterMind1 2 files modified and not checked in. 17:10:43 kergoth so thats how i tell what i've done so far 17:12:04 sambatron I'm sorry but I can't see two different packages being created on fbvncserver... 17:12:12 kergoth ? 17:12:17 kergoth fbvncserver is one ipk 17:12:25 kergoth last i checked anyway 17:12:33 kergoth hold up 17:12:41 kergoth okay 17:12:50 kergoth fbvncserver is structured like the multiipk builds were, but is only one ipk 17:13:03 kergoth in that case, you can translate SubBinaryInstallCmds directly to $(stamp-rootinstall) 17:13:14 sambatron ok 17:13:22 kergoth and swipe Description and the like from the BinaryInstallCmds and put them up top with the rest of the variables 17:15:15 sambatron what happens with the variables that are double declared like name ? 17:15:23 kergoth sambatron: dont do that. 17:15:25 kergoth sambatron: just set it once 17:15:39 sambatron which one is the good one ? 17:16:10 kergoth do this 17:16:16 kergoth keep Name at the top as fbvncserver 17:16:23 kergoth but, I want the ipk called fbvncserver-oz 17:16:26 kergoth so do what ncurses does 17:16:34 kergoth $(stamp-ipk) : Name=fbvncserver-oz 17:16:38 kergoth that'll change it just for the ipk build 17:16:41 kergoth :) 17:16:50 sambatron cool 17:16:53 kergoth just put that in along with everything else, dotn replace the existing target with it 17:18:56 TheMasterMind1 rofl 17:18:57 TheMasterMind1 http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22go+to+hell%22 17:19:54 kergoth lol 17:21:11 TheMasterMind1 btw, we need to put/symlink the FAQ to openzaurus.sf.net/ so they can just view it instead of going through sf's download thing 17:21:17 TheMasterMind1 that's really annoying 17:23:54 TheMasterMind1 and cloudchaser said she sent you some changes for the FAQ 17:23:56 TheMasterMind1 so update it 17:27:13 TheMasterMind1 see the new need_conversion ? 17:27:16 TheMasterMind1 it should be named todo now 17:31:28 sambatron I get this with the make 17:31:29 sambatron entry-armv.S: Assembler messages: 17:31:29 sambatron entry-armv.S:899: Error: Internal_relocation (type 210) not fixed up (OFFSET_IMM) 17:31:30 sambatron entry-armv.S:901: Error: Internal_relocation (type 208) not fixed up (IMMEDIATE) 17:31:30 sambatron entry-armv.S:948: Error: Internal_relocation (type 210) not fixed up (OFFSET_IMM) 17:31:30 sambatron entry-armv.S:949: Error: Internal_relocation (type 210) not fixed up (OFFSET_IMM) 17:31:31 sambatron entry-armv.S:950: Error: Internal_relocation (type 210) not fixed up (OFFSET_IMM) 17:31:33 sambatron entry-armv.S:1238: Error: Cannot represent SWI relocation in this object file format 17:31:43 TheMasterMind1 sambatron: cd build/linux; make distclean 17:31:43 kergoth sambatron: do make -C build/linux distclean from buildroot 17:31:50 kergoth hehe 17:32:22 sambatron ok :) 17:32:59 kergoth TheMasterMind1: i merged need_converting into the root TODO 17:33:02 kergoth TheMasterMind1: bk pull 17:33:17 TheMasterMind1 ok 17:34:56 TheMasterMind1 i think udhcpc support is done no? 17:34:59 TheMasterMind1 ifupdown uses it 17:35:02 TheMasterMind1 and busybox provides it 17:37:28 kergoth Have you tested it on a fresh rom? 17:37:32 kergoth its not done until we confirm it works :) 17:37:41 TheMasterMind1 heh 17:37:42 TheMasterMind1 ok 17:37:57 TheMasterMind1 i know udhcpc works 17:38:01 TheMasterMind1 i dunno if it works from ifupdown 17:38:23 TheMasterMind1 is someone actually working on improving ipkg or not/ 17:38:34 kergoth jamey maintains it 17:38:37 kergoth yes, he's working on it 17:38:40 TheMasterMind1 hmm ok 17:38:43 kergoth he works for crl 17:38:48 kergoth iirc 17:38:51 TheMasterMind1 i think i'm going to do a couple of quick patches 17:38:54 TheMasterMind1 add symlinks and such 17:40:28 TheMasterMind1 waits for compile.. 17:40:57 TheMasterMind1 does this update from cvs now? 17:41:29 kergoth no 17:41:53 kergoth i may yank that functionality in favor of cvs export instead of cvs co and bk export instead of bk co 17:41:55 kergoth hmm 17:42:31 ljp hmm 17:43:28 TheMasterMind1 what's the difference? 17:43:45 kergoth TheMasterMind1: bk clone takes a long fucking time, especially for a linux kernel tree 17:43:55 kergoth TheMasterMind1: because its getting the whole repository, old versions of everything and all 17:44:01 TheMasterMind1 ah 17:44:08 kergoth TheMasterMind1: bk export and cvs export just get a certain version of the tree as of now, without CVS and BitKeeper dirs 17:44:19 TheMasterMind1 that's good 17:44:24 TheMasterMind1 but then you can't update? 17:44:26 kergoth it'll make the bk downloads faster, like for 2.4.7 17:44:28 kergoth exactly 17:44:31 TheMasterMind1 hmm 17:44:39 kergoth then you'd have to wipe build/blah* sources/blah* stamps/.blah.source* 17:44:40 TheMasterMind1 you could do cvs co and bk export 17:44:48 TheMasterMind1 or even let it choose in the Makefile 17:44:53 kergoth or jsut wipe the source and sourcetree and it'll re-export again 17:44:55 TheMasterMind1 opie/busybox would be good to have update.. 17:44:58 kergoth :) 17:45:03 TheMasterMind1 or maybe export is fine 17:45:13 TheMasterMind1 exporting the whole thing everytime might be slower 17:45:24 TheMasterMind1 we can make it so you can choose 17:45:30 TheMasterMind1 based on which is faster for that package 17:45:30 kergoth the initial checkout/clone will be slow as dirt the first time 17:45:33 kergoth but faster afterwards 17:45:40 kergoth wehereas export will be a bit slower each time 17:45:43 kergoth its a toss up 17:45:45 TheMasterMind1 yea 17:45:50 TheMasterMind1 choosing = good 17:45:51 kergoth yeah, maybe i'll make it optional or something 17:45:55 kergoth put it in the config.in 17:45:57 kergoth :) 17:46:02 kergoth i'll add it today 17:46:25 TheMasterMind1 k 17:47:03 TheMasterMind1 busybox needs a patch update 17:49:31 sambatron checking LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable... contains current directory 17:49:31 sambatron configure: error: 17:49:31 sambatron *** LD_LIBRARY_PATH shouldn't contain the current directory when 17:49:31 sambatron *** building glibc. Please change the environment variable 17:49:31 sambatron *** and run configure again. 17:49:36 TheMasterMind1 yea 17:49:41 TheMasterMind1 you need to change that va 17:49:41 TheMasterMind1 are 17:49:44 TheMasterMind1 make sure there's no :: in it 17:49:49 TheMasterMind1 or : at the end 17:49:54 sambatron ok 17:49:59 kergoth or unset LD_LIBRARY_PATH, unless you need it 17:50:01 kergoth :) 17:50:30 TheMasterMind1 we need to add lib and binary paths for /mnt/card /mnt/cf and /mnt/ram to oz-base 17:50:52 TheMasterMind1 profile, env vars, root/.profile, ld.so.conf 17:51:03 kergoth ? 17:51:10 kergoth ld.so.conf is useless unless they run ldconfig after 17:51:17 kergoth and they're already in profile, iirc 17:51:34 TheMasterMind1 i'll make sure 17:51:39 TheMasterMind1 ldconfig runs on bootup no? 17:51:42 kergoth no 17:51:55 kergoth ldconfig runs in some of the ipk'spostinsts though, so it gets run during the Reconfiguring packages.. 17:51:59 TheMasterMind1 does it any time after they flash and before they start usig it 17:52:04 TheMasterMind1 ok 17:52:07 TheMasterMind1 that's good enough 17:52:19 kergoth but if you add it in oz-base's ld.so.conf, we need ldconfig in oz-base's postinst 17:52:26 kergoth i.e for people upgrading their oz-base version 17:52:27 TheMasterMind1 oh 17:52:28 kergoth to make sure it happens 17:52:28 TheMasterMind1 hmm 17:52:28 TheMasterMind1 ok 17:52:31 kergoth actually 17:52:33 kergoth you cant do that 17:52:39 kergoth if they change cf cards 17:52:43 kergoth the ld.so.cache will be wrong 17:52:48 kergoth they'd have to run ldconfig each time they change cards 17:52:51 TheMasterMind1 ok 17:52:53 kergoth thats why we use LD_LIBRARY_PATH instead 17:52:53 TheMasterMind1 we can do that.. 17:52:55 kergoth its dynamic 17:52:57 kergoth no 17:53:01 TheMasterMind1 fine 17:53:10 TheMasterMind1 putting it in ide and sdcontrol would be easy.. 17:53:18 kergoth its *grossly stupid* 17:53:23 kergoth LD_LIBRARY_PATH exists for a reason 17:53:23 TheMasterMind1 yes master 17:53:25 kergoth for shit like that 17:53:31 kergoth the ld cache is too static 17:53:36 kergoth not meant for shit changing left and right 17:56:44 TheMasterMind1 ==> PASV ... done. ==> RETR qt-embedded-2.3.4-snapshot-20020909.tar.gz ... 17:56:45 TheMasterMind1 No such file `qt-embedded-2.3.4-snapshot-20020909.tar.gz'. 17:56:56 TheMasterMind1 also, problem 17:57:01 TheMasterMind1 how do i make it do the sourcetreedepends thing 17:57:11 TheMasterMind1 before it applies the patches in Sources 17:59:17 kergoth TheMasterMind1: add $(stamp-sourcetree) : whee 17:59:19 kergoth then 17:59:21 kergoth whee: 17:59:30 kergoth $(MAKE) -C $(TOPDIR)/packages/opie sourcetrees 17:59:31 kergoth hehe 17:59:56 TheMasterMind1 hmm 18:01:16 kergoth dont put any commands in the $(stamp-sourcetree) 18:01:18 kergoth or it'll break 18:01:25 TheMasterMind1 ok 18:01:32 kergoth but if you just put it there to add a prerequisite for it, it'll work 18:01:44 kergoth it'll use the commands form Rules.make, but add the preqrequisite you put there 18:01:46 kergoth pretty nifty 18:02:04 TheMasterMind1 coool 18:02:22 TheMasterMind1 make pakcages/packname doesn't work 18:02:56 kergoth ? 18:02:58 kergoth yeah it does 18:03:00 kergoth i just did it 18:03:04 kergoth lemme do it agian 18:03:35 kergoth yep, just did it 18:03:40 TheMasterMind1 make[1]: *** No rule to make target `packages/qte-2.3.4'. Stop. 18:03:49 kergoth there's no rule if you didnt enable it in the config 18:03:51 kergoth in your .config 18:03:59 TheMasterMind1 but i did 18:04:03 kergoth if its set to y, it'll have a rule, and it'll work 18:04:13 kergoth did you change .config without doing a make oldconfig maybe? 18:04:16 TheMasterMind1 make[1]: Entering directory `/zaurus/buildroot/packages/kernel' 18:04:16 TheMasterMind1 make[1]: *** No rule to make target `packages/qte-2.3.4'. Stop. 18:04:16 TheMasterMind1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/zaurus/buildroot/packages/kernel' 18:04:21 TheMasterMind1 why is it going into kernel? 18:04:25 kergoth you need to bk pull 18:04:34 kergoth hrm 18:04:39 kergoth yeah, you need to bk pull 18:04:40 TheMasterMind1 nothing to pull 18:04:49 TheMasterMind1 arsenic:/zaurus/buildroot# bk pull 18:04:49 TheMasterMind1 Nothing to pull from http://openzaurus.bkbits.net/buildroot/ 18:04:53 kergoth hrm 18:04:56 kergoth hold on 18:04:59 kergoth i couldve sworn i fixed that 18:07:12 kergoth whew 18:07:14 kergoth found the bug 18:07:16 kergoth it works now, fucking cool 18:07:39 TheMasterMind1 k 18:07:42 kergoth hold up 18:07:48 kergoth i'll push it 18:13:03 kergoth TheMasterMind1: bk pull 18:13:17 TheMasterMind1 k 18:19:34 sambatron ok, I have my first problem 18:19:44 sambatron O:) 18:19:53 sambatron touch /home/jorge/prog/zaurus/oz/buildroot-oz/stamps/.fbvncserver.source; 18:19:54 sambatron Error! /home/jorge/prog/zaurus/oz/buildroot-oz/sources/fbvnc/fbvncserver_0.1.1-2.tar.gz not found. 18:19:54 kergoth which is..? 18:20:32 kergoth sambatron: they're there in my tree. 18:20:38 TheMasterMind1 You don't have <scsi/scsi.h> 18:20:38 TheMasterMind1 You have <linux/blkpg.h> 18:20:39 TheMasterMind1 You have <linux/kd.h> 18:20:39 TheMasterMind1 You have <locale.h> 18:20:39 TheMasterMind1 You have <langinfo.h> 18:20:39 kergoth sambatron: thats the wrong path 18:20:39 TheMasterMind1 You have <sys/user.h> 18:20:41 TheMasterMind1 You have <asm/types.h> 18:20:43 TheMasterMind1 You don't have inet_aton() 18:20:45 TheMasterMind1 You don't have fsync() 18:20:48 TheMasterMind1 You don't have getdomainname() 18:20:50 TheMasterMind1 You don't have nanosleep() 18:20:50 kergoth sambatron: the sources are now in packages/[packagename]/ 18:20:52 TheMasterMind1 You don't have personality() 18:20:54 TheMasterMind1 You don't have updwtmp() 18:20:55 TheMasterMind1 You need <linux/tqueue.h> 18:20:57 TheMasterMind1 You don't have <term.h> 18:20:59 TheMasterMind1 You don't have ncurses - I will not make ul and setterm. 18:21:02 sambatron Sources = $(SOURCE_DIR)/fbvnc/$(Name)_$(Version)-2.tar.gz 18:21:02 sambatron SourceTree = $(BUILD_DIR)/$(Name) 18:21:03 TheMasterMind1 You don't have termcap - I will not make more. 18:21:06 TheMasterMind1 You need -lcrypt 18:21:08 TheMasterMind1 normal? 18:21:20 kergoth TheMasterMind1: what are you building? 18:21:24 kergoth TheMasterMind1: it shouldve found ncurses 18:21:31 kergoth TheMasterMind1: i'd think anyway 18:21:53 TheMasterMind1 no clue what's building 18:22:04 kergoth sambatron: yes, thats wrong 18:22:04 TheMasterMind1 i just noticed that on the screen 18:22:07 kergoth sambatron: read what i wrote again 18:22:17 kergoth sambatron: the sources are now in packages/[packagename]/ 18:22:22 TheMasterMind1 sambatron: $(TOPDIR)/packages/fbvnc/thing.tar.gz 18:22:37 sambatron ok 18:22:38 kergoth updates CONVERSIOn 18:23:36 sambatron make LIBS="-L/home/jorge/prog/zaurus/oz/buildroot-oz/output/staging/usr/lib" \ 18:23:41 sambatron INCLUDES="-I/home/jorge/prog/zaurus/oz/buildroot-oz/output/staging/usr/include" \ 18:23:41 sambatron CFLAGS_KERNEL="-Wall -D__KERNEL__ -I/home/jorge/prog/zaurus/oz/buildroot-oz/output/staging/usr/include" \ 18:23:41 sambatron zaurus_fbvncserver zaurus_tssimd zaurus_kbdsim.o; 18:23:41 sambatron make[3]: Entering directory `/home/jorge/prog/zaurus/oz/buildroot-oz/packages/fbvncserver' 18:23:41 sambatron make[3]: *** No rule to make target `zaurus_fbvncserver'. Stop. 18:24:37 kergoth sambatron: READ 18:24:39 kergoth sambatron: jesus 18:24:45 kergoth sambatron: add -C $(SourceTree) to that make line 18:25:10 kergoth "Also note, that each line within a target starts at the root path 18:25:12 kergoth again, so you'll need to add -C $(SourceTree) to $(MAKE) lines, and 18:25:14 kergoth cd $(SourceTree); to the beginning of other lines like ./configure. 18:25:16 kergoth " 18:25:18 kergoth quoted from CONVERSIOn 18:25:32 TheMasterMind1 is cvs <-> bk now autosynced? 18:25:42 kergoth TheMasterMind1: not quite, i've got a script doing it 18:25:48 kergoth TheMasterMind1: its just not run automatically yet 18:25:51 TheMasterMind1 Version = $(shell if [ -e $(DL_DIR)/$(Name)-cvsdate ]; then \ 18:25:51 TheMasterMind1 echo `cat $(DL_DIR)/$(Name)-cvsdate`; else date +%Y%m%d; fi) 18:25:57 kergoth TheMasterMind1: that isnt used atm 18:26:00 TheMasterMind1 i'm guessing that won't work 18:26:01 TheMasterMind1 he 18:26:02 TheMasterMind1 h 18:26:03 kergoth TheMasterMind1: remember, that was for our autoupdating 18:26:05 kergoth yeah 18:26:06 TheMasterMind1 yea 18:26:11 TheMasterMind1 so what do i make it 18:26:13 TheMasterMind1 just date? 18:26:24 kergoth that'll work as is 18:26:26 kergoth it'll just always do the else 18:26:31 kergoth date +%Y%m%d 18:26:34 kergoth hehe 18:26:40 kergoth feel free to change it to $(shell date +%Y%m%d) though 18:26:43 kergoth for simplicity 18:29:58 sambatron make: *** /home/jorge/prog/zaurus/oz/buildroot-oz/fbvncserver: No such file or directory. Stop. 18:29:58 sambatron make: Entering an unknown directorymake: Leaving an unknown directorymake[2]: *** [/home/jorge/prog/zaurus/oz/buildroot-oz/stamps/.fbvncserver.binary] Error 2 18:31:37 kergoth sambatron: ? 18:31:39 sambatron yep 18:31:47 kergoth your SourceTree is wrong 18:31:50 kergoth or your make -C is wrong 18:32:09 kergoth i'd say 18:32:20 kergoth but without more of the output or a copy of the makefile i couldnt say for sure 18:32:31 TheMasterMind1 where is output dir? 18:32:34 TheMasterMind1 where do i put ipks 18:32:39 TheMasterMind1 what var 18:32:46 TheMasterMind1 $(OUTPUT_DIR)/ipks ? 18:33:11 kergoth yeah 18:33:19 kergoth take a look at the other makefiles for examples 18:33:24 kergoth thats also 18:33:26 kergoth $(IPK_DIR) 18:33:27 sambatron you were right, my sourcetree was wrong 18:33:28 kergoth iirc 18:34:17 sambatron make[3]: Entering directory `/home/jorge/prog/zaurus/oz/buildroot-oz/packages/fbvncserver' 18:34:17 sambatron make[3]: *** No rule to make target `zaurus_fbvncserver'. Stop. 18:34:25 kergoth ? 18:34:32 kergoth packages/fbvncserver != sourcetree 18:34:47 kergoth SourceTree = $(BUILD_DIR)/somethingorother 18:35:01 kergoth dont touch SourceTree when copying it from the old format. its correct regardless 18:35:22 sambatron well it was buildroot-oz/fbvncserver ... 18:35:37 kergoth no 18:35:38 sambatron make: *** /home/jorge/prog/zaurus/oz/buildroot-oz/fbvncserver: No such file or directory. Stop. 18:35:39 kergoth it wasnt. 18:35:43 sambatron that was my sourcetree 18:35:44 kergoth SourceTree = $(BUILD_DIR)/$(Name) 18:35:47 Onyx4 mmm so you did QTe kergoth? 18:35:50 kergoth thats from a stock fbvncserver before you touched it 18:35:55 kergoth SourceTree = $(BUILD_DIR)/$(Name) 18:35:56 Onyx4 No such file `qt-embedded-2.3.4-snapshot-20020909.tar.gz'. 18:35:56 TheMasterMind1 kergoth: where should i put the code that moves the opie ipks to IPK_DIR 18:35:59 TheMasterMind1 under which make target 18:36:00 kergoth $(BUILD_DIR) != $(TOPDIR) 18:36:06 TheMasterMind1 Onyx4: i'm working on qte 18:36:10 TheMasterMind1 gimme a bit 18:36:17 Onyx4 ok 18:36:31 Onyx4 well don't commit your changeset until it's working completely :) 18:36:32 kergoth TheMasterMind1: hmm 18:36:36 kergoth TheMasterMind1: here's an idea 18:36:38 TheMasterMind1 Onyx4: blah blah blah 18:36:39 TheMasterMind1 i don't hear you 18:36:41 TheMasterMind1 :D 18:36:43 kergoth TheMasterMind1: let me think a sec 18:37:17 kergoth TheMasterMind1: the makefile 'package' target calls the packages/blah/Makefile's ipk target 18:37:20 kergoth TheMasterMind1: so 18:37:22 kergoth ipk : moveipks 18:37:26 kergoth moveipks : 18:37:29 TheMasterMind1 k 18:37:31 kergoth mv blah blah; 18:37:36 TheMasterMind1 and a stamp? 18:37:38 Onyx4 where did the "need converting" go? 18:37:41 TheMasterMind1 to tell it its done 18:37:43 TheMasterMind1 Onyx4: TODO 18:37:44 TheMasterMind1 in the root 18:37:54 kergoth TheMasterMind1: yeah, but put the stamp in stamps/ not an ipk filename like the other $(stamp-ipk)'s are 18:37:54 Onyx4 ah 18:38:17 kergoth TheMasterMind1: like $(TOPDIR)/stamps/.$(Name).ipk or something 18:38:20 TheMasterMind1 hmm 18:38:25 TheMasterMind1 but will it check to see if its there? 18:38:28 TheMasterMind1 how does that work 18:38:44 kergoth yep, it checks 18:38:50 kergoth it'll work like every other stamp 18:38:54 kergoth do it this way 18:38:56 kergoth here 18:39:01 TheMasterMind1 moveipks: 18:39:02 TheMasterMind1 cd $(SourceTree); sh mkipks 18:39:02 TheMasterMind1 rm -rf $(IPK_DIR)/*opie*.ipk 18:39:02 TheMasterMind1 rm -rf $(IPK_DIR)/qt-embedded*.ipk 18:39:02 TheMasterMind1 cd $(SourceTree); mv *.ipk $(IPK_DIR)/ 18:39:02 kergoth stamp-ipk=$(TOPDIR)/stamps/.$(Name).ipk 18:39:02 TheMasterMind1 touch $(TOPDIR)/stamps/.$(Name).ipk 18:39:14 kergoth change the name of that rule 18:39:16 kergoth from moveipks 18:39:18 kergoth to $(stamp-ipk) 18:39:21 TheMasterMind1 ah ok 18:39:26 kergoth and set stamp-ipk like i said 18:39:28 kergoth then it'll check :) 18:40:06 Onyx4 I'm gonna do netbase 18:40:19 sambatron what would be the variable for ./packages/fbvncserver/ ?? 18:40:33 TheMasterMind1 make -C /zaurus/buildroot/packages/opie sourcetrees; 18:40:33 TheMasterMind1 Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /zaurus/buildroot/scripts/sources/Cvs.pm line 42. 18:40:33 TheMasterMind1 make[2]: Entering directory `/zaurus/buildroot/packages/opie' 18:40:33 TheMasterMind1 Makefile:44: *** missing separator. Stop. 18:40:47 TheMasterMind1 sambatron: $(TOPDIR)/packages/fbvncserver/ 18:41:50 sambatron it looks like the sources are not untarred, should I untar them manually ? 18:42:22 TheMasterMind1 no 18:42:31 TheMasterMind1 what sources? 18:42:56 TheMasterMind1 you set the path in Sources: 18:42:58 kergoth TheMasterMind1: messed up Sources in opie 18:43:03 TheMasterMind1 that will get the tar and untar etc em 18:43:04 kergoth TheMasterMind1: cvs format changed 18:43:07 TheMasterMind1 and put them in build/ 18:43:16 TheMasterMind1 kergoth: ok, what's the new format 18:43:18 kergoth TheMasterMind1: :pserver:blah@blah:/cvsroot:module changed to :pserver:blah@blah:/cvsroot module=blah; 18:43:35 kergoth TheMasterMind1: i standardized the means of passing options to the source scripts 18:43:45 kergoth TheMasterMind1: [source] [options]; 18:43:47 TheMasterMind1 Makefile:44: *** missing separator. Stop. 18:43:50 TheMasterMind1 what's that about? 18:44:01 kergoth TheMasterMind1: missing seperator is you probably forgot a \ within the Sources line or something 18:44:04 sambatron look this is my sources: 18:44:06 sambatron Sources = $(TOPDIR)/packages/fbvncserver/fbvnc/$(Name)_$(Version)-2.tar.gz 18:44:06 sambatron SourceTree = $(BUILD_DIR)/$(Name) 18:44:08 kergoth TheMasterMind1: Sources = everything has to be on one line 18:44:21 sambatron and this is the error: 18:44:24 kergoth sambatron: so give us some errors 18:44:26 kergoth yeah 18:44:28 kergoth heh 18:44:29 sambatron make: *** /home/jorge/prog/zaurus/oz/buildroot-oz/build/fbvncserver: No such file or directory. Stop. 18:44:29 sambatron make: Entering an unknown directorymake: Leaving an unknown directorymake[2]: *** [/home/jorge/prog/zaurus/oz/buildroot-oz/stamps/.fbvncserver.binary] Error 2 18:44:43 kergoth sambatron: thats not the error 18:44:48 kergoth sambatron: give me something farther up in the output 18:44:55 kergoth sambatron: the real source of the problem 18:44:58 kergoth unix is deceptive 18:45:07 kergoth it takes a while to learn how to nail the actual source of a problem in error output 18:45:09 sambatron make[2]: Entering directory `/home/jorge/prog/zaurus/oz/buildroot-oz/packages/fbvncserver' 18:45:09 sambatron make -C /home/jorge/prog/zaurus/oz/buildroot-oz/build/fbvncserver LIBS="-L/home/jorge/prog/zaurus/oz/buildroot-oz/output/staging/usr/lib" \ 18:45:09 sambatron INCLUDES="-I/home/jorge/prog/zaurus/oz/buildroot-oz/output/staging/usr/include" \ 18:45:09 sambatron CFLAGS_KERNEL="-Wall -D__KERNEL__ -I/home/jorge/prog/zaurus/oz/buildroot-oz/output/staging/usr/include" \ 18:45:10 sambatron zaurus_fbvncserver zaurus_tssimd zaurus_kbdsim.o; 18:45:12 sambatron make: *** /home/jorge/prog/zaurus/oz/buildroot-oz/build/fbvncserver: No such file or directory. Stop. 18:45:14 sambatron make: Entering an unknown directorymake: Leaving an unknown directorymake[2]: *** [/home/jorge/prog/zaurus/oz/buildroot-oz/stamps/.fbvncserver.binary] Error 2 18:45:25 TheMasterMind1 nm 18:45:35 kergoth sambatron: ugh. thats not the error either 18:45:38 kergoth let me guess 18:45:48 kergoth sambatron: rm -rf stamps/.fbvncserver.source* 18:45:50 kergoth sambatron: then do it again 18:46:15 sambatron much different :) 18:46:27 kergoth good good 18:46:31 kergoth the stamps determine what is complete 18:46:42 kergoth if a stampfile exists and has been updated recently, it is done with that step 18:46:45 TheMasterMind1 $(stamp-rootinstall): $(stamp-staginginstall) 18:46:47 TheMasterMind1 touch $@ 18:46:47 kergoth and wont bother trying to do it again 18:46:49 TheMasterMind1 where is the missing seperator? 18:46:54 sambatron make[3]: Entering directory `/home/jorge/prog/zaurus/oz/buildroot-oz/build/fbvncserver' 18:46:54 sambatron arm-linux-gcc -c -I/home/jorge/prog/zaurus/oz/buildroot-oz/output/staging/usr/include -o zaurus_fbvncserver.o fbvncserver.c 18:46:54 sambatron fbvncserver.c:21: rfb.h: No such file or directory 18:46:54 sambatron fbvncserver.c:22: keysym.h: No such file or directory 18:46:54 sambatron make[3]: *** [zaurus_fbvncserver.o] Error 1 18:47:02 kergoth TheMasterMind1: the missing seperator isnt on that line,i dont think 18:47:04 kergoth sambatron: i told you 18:47:09 kergoth sambatron: why doenst anyone ever listen to me? 18:47:15 kergoth sambatron: fbvncserver *depends* on libvncserver! 18:47:26 kergoth sambatron: libvncserver provides rfb.h, keysym.h, and libvncserver.a 18:47:35 sambatron I'm sorry kergoth, I try to listen... 18:47:36 kergoth sambatron: all of which fbvncserver needs and expects to be in place in staging 18:47:42 kergoth sambatron: so convert libvncserver first 18:47:47 sambatron ok 18:47:58 kergoth sorry, I get frustrated 18:48:00 TheMasterMind1 kergoth: it says Makefile:44 18:48:04 kergoth particulary when i repeat myself 18:48:11 kergoth TheMasterMind1: can you put that somewhere? or dcc it to me? 18:48:16 kergoth TheMasterMind1: make can be a bitch sometimes 18:49:02 TheMasterMind1 tjhsst.edu/~agupta/opie-makefile.txt 18:50:02 kergoth found it 18:50:12 kergoth TheMasterMind1: make has to have a tab, not spaces, for indenting commands 18:50:19 kergoth TheMasterMind1: the touch has spaces in front of it 18:50:25 kergoth TheMasterMind1: told ya make can be a bitch :) 18:51:00 TheMasterMind1 hmm 18:51:01 TheMasterMind1 pos 18:51:16 TheMasterMind1 cuz i copy pasted 18:51:38 kergoth if you used y/p in vi to copy, you're fine 18:51:45 kergoth but if you copied it out of a terminal in X.... 18:51:47 kergoth hehe 18:51:54 TheMasterMind1 yea 18:51:54 TheMasterMind1 heh 18:52:01 TheMasterMind1 oops 18:52:29 TheMasterMind1 hmm 18:52:30 TheMasterMind1 for make image 18:52:38 TheMasterMind1 will it install the opie ipks from IPK_DIR 18:52:40 TheMasterMind1 ? 18:52:44 kergoth oh shit, good call 18:52:47 kergoth hold up, lemme think 18:52:49 kergoth oh yeah 18:52:51 kergoth this is easy 18:52:53 kergoth okay 18:52:57 kergoth did you look at ncurses recently 18:52:59 kergoth ? 18:53:01 TheMasterMind1 no 18:53:04 kergoth at the bottom, there's a ipkinstall : line 18:53:06 kergoth take a look 18:53:08 kergoth thats how you specify what to install 18:53:09 TheMasterMind1 k 18:53:29 TheMasterMind1 hmm ok 18:53:33 TheMasterMind1 what's this do 18:53:47 kergoth it tells it what ipks to install into the rootfs 18:54:03 kergoth blah.control tells it to install $(IPK_DIR)/blah_*_arm.ipk 18:54:09 kergoth so 18:54:11 kergoth what we have to do 18:54:14 TheMasterMind1 hmm 18:54:14 kergoth is use $(shell 18:54:21 kergoth to get a file list of ipks in opie's build dir 18:54:25 kergoth after they get generated 18:54:27 kergoth then 18:54:32 kergoth parse the ipk filename to get the packagename 18:54:41 TheMasterMind1 fun 18:54:43 kergoth i can do this part for you if you like 18:54:45 kergoth :) 18:55:03 TheMasterMind1 yea 18:55:06 TheMasterMind1 you do it 18:55:17 TheMasterMind1 i'll commit in a few 18:55:21 TheMasterMind1 s/commit/push 18:55:33 kergoth k 18:55:37 kergoth just let me know 18:57:50 Onyx4 netbase is done 18:58:12 Onyx4 do we still want to leave hosts.deny with ALL:paranoid in it? 18:58:29 Onyx4 and also provide a /etc/init.d/portmap script when we don't have portmapper? 18:59:01 kergoth Onyx4: lets have both hosts.allow and hosts.deny empty of entries 18:59:17 Onyx4 mmm ok so I would need to make a patch I guess? 18:59:23 TheMasterMind1 oh also 18:59:27 TheMasterMind1 oz needs to give out dhcp ips 18:59:30 TheMasterMind1 so that syncing works 18:59:30 kergoth yeah probably, or sed it within the makefile 18:59:32 kergoth TheMasterMind1: no, it doesnt. 18:59:35 TheMasterMind1 does too 18:59:39 kergoth TheMasterMind1: thats only if the user doesnt want to hardcode an ip in windows 18:59:42 kergoth TheMasterMind1: read the fucking faq 18:59:44 kergoth heh 18:59:44 TheMasterMind1 exactly 18:59:55 TheMasterMind1 half the dumbass users are too stupid to setup ips 18:59:58 kergoth its a ease of use thing, theres a definitive reason why I havent done that 19:00:00 TheMasterMind1 so we need dhcpd 19:00:06 TheMasterMind1 udhcpd would work 19:00:13 kergoth because usb networking's ip scheme will be configured via the new netsetup 19:00:26 kergoth and the new netsetup will use /etc/network/interfaces 19:00:33 kergoth now if interfaces has a means of setting up a dhcp server, we can do it 19:00:45 kergoth otherwise, it'll be a pain in the ass, otherwise it'll break if they change their usb network config in the gui 19:00:54 TheMasterMind1 ARGH 19:00:54 kergoth and this is coming soon when ben finishes the rewrite in a week or so 19:00:54 TheMasterMind1 dammit 19:01:06 TheMasterMind1 Connecting to ftp.trolltech.com[213.203.58.54]:21... connected. 19:01:06 TheMasterMind1 Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in! 19:01:07 TheMasterMind1 ==> SYST ... done. ==> PWD ... done. 19:01:07 TheMasterMind1 ==> TYPE I ... done. ==> CWD /pub/qtopia/snapshots ... done. 19:01:07 TheMasterMind1 ==> PASV ... done. ==> RETR qt-embedded-2.3.4-snapshot-20020909.tar.gz ... 19:01:07 TheMasterMind1 No such file `qt-embedded-2.3.4-snapshot-20020909.tar.gz'. 19:01:12 kergoth TheMasterMind1: date 19:01:12 TheMasterMind1 what happened to it? 19:01:16 kergoth TheMasterMind1: there's probably a newer snapshot 19:01:22 kergoth TheMasterMind1: than 0909 19:02:30 Onyx4 why do we need to install binaries into staging dir? 19:02:38 Onyx4 when they are only needed for packaging? 19:02:47 kergoth we dont 19:03:01 kergoth all we *really* need are things that other packages will need if they depend on this package 19:03:11 kergoth I just did it that way because i didnt feel like working out what things needed and what they didnt 19:03:16 TheMasterMind1 lol 19:03:22 Onyx4 oh, ok so then in netbase I should just be able to use the rootinstall and that's it 19:03:23 kergoth really, shared and static libs, headers, and scripts are necessary 19:03:27 kergoth yeah 19:03:36 TheMasterMind1 kergoth: hmm, what snapshot should i use 19:03:39 TheMasterMind1 there's one for every day 19:03:45 TheMasterMind1 seems like they keep last 5 days or so 19:03:55 kergoth TheMasterMind1: well, you could try looking for todays 19:04:03 kergoth TheMasterMind1: date +%Y%m%d 19:04:04 TheMasterMind1 yea, but in 6 days, today's will be gone.. 19:04:09 TheMasterMind1 so should we just use the latest? 19:04:12 kergoth TheMasterMind1: set it iwth $(shell 19:04:14 kergoth TheMasterMind1: yeah 19:04:14 TheMasterMind1 ok 19:04:18 TheMasterMind1 that works 19:05:04 TheMasterMind1 hm 19:05:08 kergoth ? 19:05:19 TheMasterMind1 that will need to be autoupdated too 19:05:25 TheMasterMind1 somehow 19:06:18 TheMasterMind1 trolltech ftp is sloooow... 19:07:40 kergoth yeah, it is 19:08:36 Onyx4 do we use the /etc/init.d/networking script? 19:08:42 Onyx4 and /etc/init.d/portmap ? 19:09:16 kergoth Onyx4: networking handles the spoofprotection, ecn, forwarding, syncookies options 19:09:29 kergoth Onyx4: i think its linked in and run, but i dont think any of them are enabled by default 19:09:32 Onyx4 ok but there aren't any symlinks for /etc/rc<x> 19:09:55 kergoth ? 19:09:57 kergoth check the postinst. 19:10:07 kergoth most packages do the linking/unlinking in the postinst/prerm 19:10:29 Onyx4 i dont see a postinst on netbase 19:11:11 kergoth Onyx4: then we should add one :) 19:13:10 Onyx4 and should we symlink to runlevel 2 only or 2-5? 19:13:27 kergoth most users only use 2 19:13:30 Onyx4 ok 19:13:34 kergoth but we should probably link in 2-5 19:13:38 kergoth for added flexibility 19:13:51 ljp I like run level 11 19:14:56 Onyx4 mmm the update-inetd script is a perl script, guess that should not be copied :) 19:15:10 Onyx4 there's no perl on Z right? 19:16:36 scanline is back (gone 10:46:03) 19:16:59 TheMasterMind1 not yet 19:16:59 Onyx4 mmm the networking script is old, doesnt even support iptables 19:17:07 Onyx4 guess we're really not using that stuff 19:17:11 TheMasterMind1 i saw a perl tar.gz for the Z 19:17:16 TheMasterMind1 we need to add a makefile for perl 19:17:18 TheMasterMind1 and php-cgi 19:17:20 TheMasterMind1 :) 19:17:49 kergoth Onyx4: hmm? 19:17:53 TheMasterMind1 hey kergoth 19:17:55 kergoth Onyx4: there's a seperate iptables script 19:17:56 TheMasterMind1 if i'm exporting something 19:18:01 TheMasterMind1 or declare -x 19:18:05 TheMasterMind1 that won't work? 19:18:09 TheMasterMind1 does it all have to be on one line 19:18:12 Onyx4 kergoth: probably not part of netbase? 19:18:13 TheMasterMind1 like the cd $dir 19:18:14 kergoth TheMasterMind1: nope. unless you do it on the same line 19:18:18 kergoth TheMasterMind1: or set a makefile variable instead 19:18:23 TheMasterMind1 ok 19:18:26 kergoth TheMasterMind1: export blah=blah up in themakefile itself 19:18:28 TheMasterMind1 makefile var how? 19:18:29 TheMasterMind1 hmm 19:18:31 kergoth TheMasterMind1: make sure to export 19:18:33 TheMasterMind1 i have that, but its not working 19:18:35 Onyx4 so basically the stuff in netbase then should be just the /etc/services and config files but no scripts then 19:18:38 kergoth TheMasterMind1: just like Name and the others at the beginning of hte makefile 19:18:52 kergoth TheMasterMind1: those are makefile variables 19:19:07 kergoth Onyx4: well, the networking script, as i said 19:19:09 TheMasterMind1 /bin/sh: line 1: cd: /zaurus/buildroot/build/qt-2.3.4-snapshot-20020909: No such file or directory 19:19:10 kergoth Onyx4: iirc 19:19:13 kergoth Onyx4: but iptables is a seperate deal 19:19:13 TheMasterMind1 its trying to go to 0909 19:19:16 TheMasterMind1 i don't know why 19:19:31 kergoth Onyx4: iptables script is probably part of the iptables package 19:20:52 Onyx4 ok all the script does it enable up the interface and setup rp_filter 19:21:05 kergoth yeah. and echo's shit out to proc for forwarding and the like 19:21:19 Onyx4 right but that's set to "no" by default 19:21:24 Onyx4 doopt spoofprotect yes 19:21:25 Onyx4 doopt syncookies no 19:21:25 Onyx4 doopt ip_forward no 19:21:37 kergoth Onyx4: yeah 19:21:42 kergoth Onyx4: unless set in the options file in /etc/network/ 19:22:15 TheMasterMind1 got it 19:22:39 TheMasterMind1 yay 19:22:43 TheMasterMind1 look at qte compile! 19:22:55 kergoth nice 19:23:02 TheMasterMind1 kergoth: there's going to be a problem 19:23:04 TheMasterMind1 when the date changes 19:23:04 kergoth ? 19:23:09 kergoth oh 19:23:09 TheMasterMind1 there's a stamp for qte soures 19:23:20 TheMasterMind1 but the build dir and source file and all change 19:23:21 kergoth hm 19:23:23 kergoth and date isnt in the stamp 19:23:28 kergoth so it wont redownload 19:23:30 kergoth lol 19:23:31 TheMasterMind1 yea 19:23:37 kergoth hrm 19:23:45 TheMasterMind1 we could add date to stamp 19:23:53 TheMasterMind1 but then we still have old crap laying around 19:23:56 kergoth yeah 19:23:56 TheMasterMind1 though that's not that bad 19:23:59 kergoth hrm 19:24:08 TheMasterMind1 dammit 19:24:14 TheMasterMind1 it crapped out :( 19:24:18 kergoth where at? 19:24:38 kergoth TheMasterMind1: btw, did the patches from opie's qt/ dir apply fine? 19:24:45 TheMasterMind1 yea i think so 19:24:49 TheMasterMind1 ah i see the problem 19:24:51 TheMasterMind1 my patch is missing 19:24:55 TheMasterMind1 hm, what about this uic 19:24:58 TheMasterMind1 it has a stamp also 19:25:11 kergoth thats alright 19:25:16 kergoth use the 0909 uic tarball 19:25:19 TheMasterMind1 si'll hardcode that 19:25:19 kergoth or whatever 19:25:22 kergoth yeah 19:26:00 Onyx4 kergoth: do you want me to add portmap as part of netbase? 19:26:04 Onyx4 I mean the binary 19:26:09 Onyx4 since it was not compiled before 19:26:27 kergoth Onyx4: if you do, make it a seperate ipk 19:26:32 kergoth Onyx4: most people wont need a rpc portmapper 19:26:43 kergoth Onyx4: i mean how many people are running nfs exports on their Z? 19:26:45 kergoth hehe 19:26:46 Onyx4 ok , so the portmap startup script I'll make it part of that package 19:26:56 kergoth yeah 19:26:57 Onyx4 sometimes you need portmap to mount nfs shares 19:26:58 kergoth exactly 19:27:08 Onyx4 like for IRIX systems, they actually do a call to portmapper on the client 19:27:22 kergoth really? I didnt realize 19:27:27 kergoth well regardless, it deserves its own ipk 19:27:31 Onyx4 ok cool 19:27:35 kergoth thats one difference between debian and familiar/oz 19:27:37 TheMasterMind1 make[1]: Entering directory `/zaurus/buildroot/packages/qte-2.3.4' 19:27:37 TheMasterMind1 Warning: /zaurus/buildroot/sources/qt-embedded-2.3.4-snapshot-20020922.tar.gz already exists. 19:27:37 TheMasterMind1 -aborting- 19:27:38 TheMasterMind1 hmm 19:27:40 kergoth we need more granularity on an embedded system 19:27:43 kergoth TheMasterMind1: hehe 19:27:45 TheMasterMind1 it doesn't untar 19:27:47 TheMasterMind1 or apply the patches 19:27:48 TheMasterMind1 :\ 19:27:57 kergoth TheMasterMind1: the stamp got wiped, but it noticed the source already exists 19:28:00 kergoth TheMasterMind1: touch the source stamp 19:28:00 TheMasterMind1 yea 19:28:06 TheMasterMind1 i deleted the stamp 19:28:11 kergoth TheMasterMind1: or remove the sources 19:28:12 TheMasterMind1 i want it to re-untar and apply the patches 19:28:13 kergoth ah 19:28:20 ljp how about we lump everything int one huge 32 mb binary? 19:28:21 TheMasterMind1 but the .tar.gz takes forever to download 19:28:28 TheMasterMind1 tt ftp is slow 19:28:41 kergoth TheMasterMind1: touch the stamp for *source* 19:28:43 ljp it is on weekends 19:28:44 kergoth TheMasterMind1: not the one for sourcetree 19:28:48 kergoth TheMasterMind1: sourcetree = extract 19:28:50 kergoth TheMasterMind1: source = download 19:29:13 TheMasterMind1 make[1]: Entering directory `/zaurus/buildroot/packages/qte-2.3.4' 19:29:13 TheMasterMind1 touch /zaurus/buildroot/stamps/.qt.sourcetree; 19:29:44 TheMasterMind1 removed the dir 19:29:47 TheMasterMind1 in build 19:30:12 kergoth touch the *source* stamp 19:30:17 kergoth or remove the *sourcetree* stamp 19:30:26 kergoth then it'll see source is newer than sourctreee and reextract 19:30:42 TheMasterMind1 ah ok 19:30:44 TheMasterMind1 well 19:30:44 TheMasterMind1 hmm 19:30:49 TheMasterMind1 now its not applying the opie patches 19:31:14 kergoth when are those patches applied? 19:31:16 TheMasterMind1 |diff -bur3 src.orig/widgets/qmenubar.cpp src/widgets/qmenubar.cpp 19:31:17 TheMasterMind1 |--- src.orig/widgets/qmenubar.cpp Mon Mar 18 02:11:27 2002 19:31:17 TheMasterMind1 |+++ src/widgets/qmenubar.cpp Sun Sep 1 19:31:09 2002 19:31:17 TheMasterMind1 -------------------------- 19:31:28 TheMasterMind1 it can't find src.orig? 19:31:29 kergoth they should be applied during the sourcetree step 19:31:34 kergoth hm 19:31:37 kergoth thats odd 19:31:44 TheMasterMind1 they are being applied during sourcetree 19:31:46 TheMasterMind1 right after untar 19:33:48 kergoth odd 19:34:29 TheMasterMind1 grr 19:34:34 TheMasterMind1 why is that path screwed up 19:34:46 TheMasterMind1 someone sucks at making patches 19:35:17 Onyx4 what S and K number in rc.d should networking have on debian? 19:36:04 kergoth /usr/src/coding/projects/user/buildroot$ find /etc/ -name \*networking 19:36:14 kergoth heh 19:36:16 kergoth its 19:36:19 kergoth S35 in rc0 and rc6 19:36:21 kergoth and S40 in rcS 19:36:23 kergoth no K 19:36:30 TheMasterMind1 how do i fix this? 19:36:30 Onyx4 k 19:36:34 TheMasterMind1 grr 19:36:39 kergoth Onyx4: using updatercd form /etc/default/functions? 19:36:56 kergoth TheMasterMind1: that patch looks fine.. 19:37:02 kergoth TheMasterMind1: i dont see why it wouldnt apply 19:37:15 TheMasterMind1 because the first list is src.orig 19:37:17 TheMasterMind1 and not src 19:37:24 TheMasterMind1 if i type in src/blah/blah 19:37:25 TheMasterMind1 it works 19:37:27 Onyx4 kergoth: uh not really :) 19:37:30 TheMasterMind1 but it can't find src.orig/blah/blah 19:37:41 kergoth Onyx4: use it, its there for a reason :) 19:37:47 kergoth Onyx4: check one of the other packages for examples 19:37:51 Onyx4 kergoth: does pcmcia-cs does it? 19:37:53 kergoth Onyx4: iirc atd's postinst for example 19:38:05 kergoth Onyx4: no, pcmcia-cs is still braindead'ly symlinking within the ipktemp 19:38:08 kergoth Onyx4: iirc 19:38:09 Onyx4 ok 19:39:06 kergoth TheMasterMind1: wipe your build dir for qte and sourcetree stamp, then log the output of a make and send it to me 19:40:14 TheMasterMind1 hmm 19:40:19 TheMasterMind1 -p is 1 right? 19:40:26 kergoth ? 19:40:36 kergoth depends 19:40:41 kergoth most patches should be pnum=1, yes 19:40:43 TheMasterMind1 input is /zaurus/buildroot/build/opie/qt/qte234-for-opie091-menubar.patch 19:40:43 TheMasterMind1 output is /zaurus/buildroot/build/qt-2.3.4-snapshot-20020922 19:40:43 TheMasterMind1 initialize: module set to Patch 19:40:43 TheMasterMind1 SourceTreeMethod->go: module is Patch 19:40:43 TheMasterMind1 in_to_out: out is /zaurus/buildroot/build/qt-2.3.4-snapshot-20020922 19:40:44 TheMasterMind1 can't find file to patch at input line 4 19:40:46 kergoth (which is default in patch btw) 19:40:46 TheMasterMind1 Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? 19:40:46 Onyx4 so networking is not in rc2,3,4,5? 19:40:48 TheMasterMind1 The text leading up to this was: 19:40:50 TheMasterMind1 -------------------------- 19:40:52 TheMasterMind1 |diff -bur3 src.orig/widgets/qmenubar.cpp src/widgets/qmenubar.cpp 19:40:54 TheMasterMind1 |--- src.orig/widgets/qmenubar.cpp Mon Mar 18 02:11:27 2002 19:40:56 TheMasterMind1 |+++ src/widgets/qmenubar.cpp Sun Sep 1 19:31:09 2002 19:40:56 kergoth Onyx4: apparently not 19:41:00 TheMasterMind1 -------------------------- 19:41:20 kergoth TheMasterMind1: push what you've got into bk and i'll take a look, if you want 19:41:21 Onyx4 kergoth: ok so it's mostly there to just unmount mounted filesystems then 19:41:51 kergoth Onyx4: ? 19:42:10 Onyx4 well if it's only into 0 and 6 it gets called with "stop' but never with start 19:42:21 kergoth Onyx4: networking != mounting 19:42:22 Onyx4 the networking script has calls in it to scan /proc/mounts and umount stuff I think 19:42:33 kergoth nope 19:42:45 TheMasterMind1 i think it does 19:42:46 kergoth its just interface manipulation and network options handling 19:42:48 kergoth no, it odesnt 19:42:53 kergoth i'm looking at it right now 19:43:17 Onyx4 since everything is working right now without calling it, I wonder what it would do for us 19:43:21 TheMasterMind1 it checks for mounts 19:43:25 TheMasterMind1 if nfs/samba is mounte 19:43:25 TheMasterMind1 d 19:43:27 TheMasterMind1 it aborts 19:44:00 kergoth ohhh that, i missed it 19:44:02 kergoth thanks 19:44:14 kergoth Onyx4: you mean calling it for shutdown/reboot? or calling it at all? 19:44:35 kergoth Onyx4: the main advantage is that it cleanly unmounts the network mounts, and that it handles the networking options on boot 19:45:09 TheMasterMind1 kergoth: pushed 19:45:11 Onyx4 on but we should call it on boot then on rc2-5 right 19:45:12 TheMasterMind1 check it out 19:45:16 TheMasterMind1 and do that ipk thing for opie 19:45:31 kergoth Onyx4: its in rcS 19:45:39 kergoth Onyx4: rcS gets called regardless of which rc we boot into 19:45:41 kergoth Onyx4: iirc 19:45:42 Onyx4 ah 19:45:49 kergoth could be wrong, its been a while since i dug into that cruft 19:45:53 kergoth check the inittab to see for sure 19:48:08 Onyx4 mmm there is already a S40networking on my Z interesting 19:48:11 Onyx4 I wonder how it get there 19:48:29 kergoth aha 19:48:31 kergoth i bet i know! 19:48:34 kergoth do me a faovr 19:48:38 kergoth remove it from oz-base 19:48:40 kergoth please 19:48:42 kergoth :) 19:48:48 ljp heh the bit shovel 19:48:50 TheMasterMind1 hmm 19:48:52 ljp whoops 19:48:57 TheMasterMind1 kergoth: looked at this qte thing? 19:50:13 Onyx4 yep part of oz-base 19:50:24 kergoth Onyx4: yank it. oz-base needs trimming anyway 19:50:28 kergoth Onyx4: :) 19:50:51 Onyx4 ok so just to make sure I update this thing right, I just untar it make the change, then tar it back using ... ? 19:51:01 TheMasterMind1 yep 19:51:06 Onyx4 which tar options to preserve symlinks and ? 19:51:12 TheMasterMind1 tar czvf opie-base.tar.gz opie-base/ 19:51:16 kergoth cd build; tar -czvf ../packages/oz-base/oz-base.tar.gz oz-base/ 19:51:17 kergoth hehe 19:51:21 TheMasterMind1 heh 19:51:32 TheMasterMind1 smacks qte 19:51:50 kergoth TheMasterMind1: i havnet taken a look yet. let me check 19:52:31 TheMasterMind1 i think your patch script is broke 19:52:41 kergoth doubtful 19:52:45 kergoth let me check though 19:52:47 TheMasterMind1 that's what they all say 19:52:47 kergoth could be 19:52:51 kergoth hehe 19:52:54 kergoth true that 19:53:11 Onyx4 ah found also portmap there in rcS.d 19:53:16 Onyx4 that's where it was called 19:53:20 kergoth yank that too 19:53:28 kergoth move it into the portmap ipk 19:53:30 kergoth or what have you 19:53:42 Onyx4 yep 19:53:43 kergoth TheMasterMind1: 60k/s from ftp.trolltech.com, it'll be a bit here 19:53:47 TheMasterMind1 yea 19:53:48 kergoth waits patiently 19:53:48 TheMasterMind1 slow crap 19:54:07 TheMasterMind1 =================================== ERROR ==================================== 19:54:08 TheMasterMind1 takepatch: packages/qte-2.3.4/SCCS/s.Makefile is locked w/o writeable gfile? 19:54:08 TheMasterMind1 Applying 2 revisions to new file packages/qte-2.3.4/qte-2.3.4-patch 19:54:10 TheMasterMind1 how do i fix that 19:54:12 TheMasterMind1 i screwed it up 19:54:34 Onyx4 how about hwclockfirst procps and hwlock ntpdate bootmisc, they don't have a valid link for oz-base to /etc/init.d 19:54:52 kergoth TheMasterMind1: move your patch out of the way, then bk unlock qte-2.3.4-patch, then bk edit qte-2.3.4-patch, then move it back 19:55:14 kergoth Onyx4: the hwclocks .. well, they should be in both busybox, *and* util-linux-hwclock, instead of oz-base 19:55:20 kergoth Onyx4: like i said, oz-base needs trimming 19:55:31 Onyx4 yep 19:55:38 Onyx4 so I take them out? 19:55:57 TheMasterMind1 ah much better 19:56:03 kergoth Onyx4: if you get them into the right places 19:56:12 kergoth Onyx4: i've left them there cause i havnet had time to move them into where they belong 19:56:17 kergoth Onyx4: there's even a bug report on sf on it 19:56:18 kergoth Onyx4: hehe 19:56:32 kergoth Onyx4: hwclock and hwclockfirst need to be in both busybox and util-linux-hwclock though, keep that in mind 19:56:53 Onyx4 mmm ok i'll let you deal with those, not sure I understand this 19:57:02 Onyx4 cause of my Z fully installed, they sitll don't point to anything those symlinks 19:57:03 kergoth two packages provide hwclock 19:57:05 kergoth the stock one, and busybox 19:57:08 TheMasterMind1 kergoth: i think its not setting pnum properly or something 19:57:20 kergoth TheMasterMind1: i'm still wiating for the d/l 19:59:12 TheMasterMind1 cat /zaurus/buildroot/build/opie/qt/qte234-for-opie091-menubar.patch | patch -p1 19:59:15 TheMasterMind1 that's the command 19:59:18 TheMasterMind1 i bet its in the wrong dir 19:59:23 kergoth er 19:59:27 kergoth i thought you set pnum to 0? 19:59:36 TheMasterMind1 hmm 19:59:39 TheMasterMind1 i did 19:59:44 TheMasterMind1 or did i 19:59:46 TheMasterMind1 it was before 19:59:51 TheMasterMind1 hmm 19:59:52 kergoth check Sources 19:59:58 kergoth maybe its screwing it up 20:00:06 kergoth but make sure the pnum=0 is on the source line for *each* patch 20:00:34 TheMasterMind1 yea it was wrong 20:00:36 TheMasterMind1 i fixed it 20:00:38 TheMasterMind1 but still 20:00:43 TheMasterMind1 i don't think its setting pnum anywhere 20:00:48 TheMasterMind1 i grepped and its not setting it anywhere 20:01:02 TheMasterMind1 even if pnum=0, pnum ends up being 1 20:01:09 TheMasterMind1 because of that if (!pnum) pnum=1; in there 20:01:18 kergoth huh? 20:01:20 kergoth no 20:01:22 kergoth er 20:01:27 kergoth doh 20:01:28 kergoth yeah 20:01:31 kergoth thats stupid 20:01:35 TheMasterMind1 if(!$invocant->{pnum}){$invocant->{pnum}=1;} 20:01:35 kergoth it shoudl be checking if its defined, not checking its value 20:01:37 kergoth yep 20:01:38 TheMasterMind1 lol 20:01:39 TheMasterMind1 oops 20:01:41 kergoth oi 20:01:44 kergoth big oops 20:01:47 kergoth it'd work for any pnum but zero 20:01:50 kergoth lol 20:01:52 TheMasterMind1 i'll fix it 20:01:57 TheMasterMind1 i already edited it 20:02:00 kergoth you know how to check whether something is defined in perl? 20:02:03 TheMasterMind1 nope 20:02:03 TheMasterMind1 heh 20:02:10 kergoth let me get my quick reference quick 20:05:00 TheMasterMind1 defined 20:05:16 TheMasterMind1 if (defined $var) 20:07:11 Onyx4 so I should add also netbase to the def-configs/openzaurus ? 20:07:17 kergoth Onyx4: yeah 20:07:18 TheMasterMind1 hmm 20:07:23 TheMasterMind1 is it being defined to begin with? 20:07:32 kergoth Onyx4: course it isnt used unless you cp it to .config and run make oldconfig :) 20:07:34 kergoth TheMasterMind1: ? 20:07:39 kergoth TheMasterMind1: should be 20:07:47 TheMasterMind1 if (!defined $invocant->{pnum}) { $invocant->{pnum}=1; } 20:07:54 TheMasterMind1 still setting to 1 20:08:48 TheMasterMind1 Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /zaurus/buildroot/scripts/sourcetrees/Patch.pm line 61. 20:08:48 TheMasterMind1 pnum is 20:08:52 TheMasterMind1 yep, its not defined to begin with 20:09:58 Onyx4 we dont provide libwrap on oz right? 20:10:19 TheMasterMind1 not yet :) 20:10:22 TheMasterMind1 do we need it? 20:11:33 Onyx4 you guys use the bk delta command? 20:11:45 kergoth i dont 20:11:52 Onyx4 what's the difference? 20:11:57 kergoth ? 20:12:02 Onyx4 between ci and delta 20:12:02 kergoth difference between what? 20:12:17 kergoth For humans, easier interfaces are bk ci and bk citool. 20:12:19 kergoth heh 20:12:26 kergoth i suspect ci uses delta internally 20:12:40 Onyx4 ok 20:12:53 Onyx4 is there a way to say like "bk ci -r" do scan the tree and commit everything changed 20:13:03 TheMasterMind1 kergoth: fix this 20:13:03 kergoth bk -r ci -y"message"; 20:13:12 kergoth -r is a option for bk itself, not for the command 20:13:19 kergoth TheMasterMind1: i am, wait up 20:13:57 TheMasterMind1 fix it and tell me when its pushed 20:16:05 Onyx4 ok netbase is done 20:17:24 Onyx4 how do you create a new directory with bk? 20:17:38 Onyx4 or we can just create a file in a new directory and add it and it'll figure it out? 20:17:59 kergoth bk add dirname 20:18:13 kergoth it probably will figure it out if you add a file within a dir, never tried 20:19:13 Onyx4 I'm gonna do portmap 20:19:21 Onyx4 or we don't really need it right now 20:20:14 Onyx4 what would you guys think of starting sshd with inetd to save memory 20:20:38 kergoth bad 20:20:42 kergoth according to bzflag that causes timing issues 20:20:50 Onyx4 I see 20:20:54 kergoth i dont recall the details unfortunately 20:20:58 kergoth hrm 20:21:56 Onyx4 ok I'll do netkit-base and netkit-ftp ok 20:23:41 kergoth source is /usr/src/coding/projects/user/buildroot/build/opie/qt/qte234-for-opie091-menubar.patch 20:23:44 kergoth options is pnum=0 20:23:46 kergoth hmm 20:26:04 TheMasterMind1 hmm 20:27:38 TheMasterMind1 so why isn't it setting 20:30:27 Onyx4 I'll convert the netkit-base to also use the /etc/default/functions 20:30:42 kergoth cool, thanks 20:31:52 Onyx4 any reasons for leaving discard and time enabled in inetd.conf? 20:33:33 kergoth not particularly 20:33:35 kergoth feel free to alter 20:33:42 Onyx4 ok 20:34:07 TheMasterMind1 fixed? 20:34:54 kergoth pnum was being set, btw 20:35:06 TheMasterMind1 so what's the prob? 20:35:16 kergoth it wasnt using defined in the check 20:35:21 kergoth hold on 20:35:28 TheMasterMind1 i changed that and it wasn't working still 20:35:28 kergoth i got it extracting both opie and qt/e without a prob 20:35:32 TheMasterMind1 hmm 20:35:33 TheMasterMind1 ok 20:35:36 TheMasterMind1 push changes 20:35:36 kergoth I changed like 4 other things in your amkefiles though 20:35:38 kergoth tweaks 20:35:40 kergoth will od 20:35:42 kergoth do 20:35:44 kergoth btw 20:35:49 kergoth bk pull -nl is nifty 20:35:53 kergoth as is bk changes -R -v 20:35:53 TheMasterMind1 hmm wait a second 20:36:03 TheMasterMind1 is your qte-2.3.4 Makefile 20:36:07 TheMasterMind1 pnum=0 ? 20:37:13 kergoth holy crap 20:37:16 kergoth its compiling 20:37:18 kergoth :) 20:37:19 TheMasterMind1 heh 20:37:28 TheMasterMind1 oh btw, fix that opie thing 20:37:35 kergoth the opie patches dont work anymore 20:37:38 kergoth cause they changed the startup script 20:37:43 kergoth let me fix that too while i'm at it 20:37:45 TheMasterMind1 ok 20:38:03 TheMasterMind1 and the opie ipk install into image thing 20:39:34 kergoth hm, yeah i need to think about that one 20:39:37 kergoth hm 20:39:39 kergoth heh 20:39:47 TheMasterMind1 copy the ncurses format 20:39:52 kergoth i know *how* 20:39:58 kergoth the question is, how to get a list of the ipks 20:40:01 kergoth they dont all start with opie-* 20:40:05 kergoth like timezones 20:40:05 TheMasterMind1 yea 20:40:07 kergoth qt-e* 20:40:09 kergoth etc 20:40:11 kergoth libopie 20:40:12 TheMasterMind1 you can just get *.ipk from build/opie/ 20:40:13 kergoth blah blah 20:40:18 kergoth they arent there anymore by the time we install' 20:40:21 kergoth we moved them out of there 20:40:23 kergoth remember? 20:40:25 kergoth hehe 20:40:27 kergoth thats the point 20:40:29 TheMasterMind1 generate a list before? 20:40:30 TheMasterMind1 heh 20:40:36 kergoth thats what i'm trying to figure out how to do 20:40:57 kergoth cause we cant set the list in a makefile variable, cause it cant get the list until after the ipks are generated in the stamp-ipk target 20:41:03 TheMasterMind1 or 20:41:04 kergoth hrm 20:41:05 TheMasterMind1 copy not move 20:46:38 kergoth TheMasterMind1: waiting for qt/e to build so i can test it 20:46:41 kergoth TheMasterMind1: then i'll pushh 20:47:01 kergoth TheMasterMind1: problem. 20:47:06 kergoth TheMasterMind1: we dont want to preinstall all of opie. 20:47:09 kergoth TheMasterMind1: only some of the ipks 20:47:15 kergoth TheMasterMind1: all of opie wont even fit into 16mb flash 20:47:18 kergoth TheMasterMind1: hehe 20:48:05 kergoth TheMasterMind1: so even if we dont hardcode what items to compile in the config.in's, we still have to hardcode the list of items to preinstall 20:51:14 kergoth i hate compling qt/e 20:51:15 TheMasterMind1 yea 20:51:17 TheMasterMind1 that's true 20:51:58 kergoth TheMasterMind1: btw, i'm converting opie to use this config system too 20:52:09 TheMasterMind1 what config system? 20:52:16 kergoth make config/menuconfig/xconfig 20:52:19 kergoth the kernel config system 20:52:21 TheMasterMind1 cool 20:52:21 kergoth scripts/lkc 20:53:57 TheMasterMind1 is it compiling ok so far? 20:54:14 kergoth it finished 20:54:16 kergoth hold up 20:54:22 TheMasterMind1 push then 20:55:41 scanline bk push daisies.c 20:58:05 Onyx4 ok inetd aka netkit-base is done 20:58:36 TheMasterMind1 cool 20:58:40 TheMasterMind1 goodjob 20:59:08 Onyx4 I made the install a bit cleaner too like for the atd and netbase package 20:59:33 Onyx4 see if it builds fine for the two I just added 21:00:24 TheMasterMind1 k 21:01:07 Onyx4 networking is one of my expertise, so I'll make sure it's working fine on OZ :) 21:01:09 TheMasterMind1 yep 21:01:11 TheMasterMind1 works great 21:01:17 TheMasterMind1 compiles rather 21:01:33 Onyx4 BTW we have a very useful command now 21:01:43 Onyx4 #!/bin/bash 21:01:44 Onyx4 echo 21:01:44 Onyx4 ar p $1 control.tar.gz | tar -zxO ./control 21:01:44 Onyx4 echo 21:01:44 Onyx4 echo 21:01:44 Onyx4 ar p $1 data.tar.gz | tar tvz 21:01:46 Onyx4 echo 21:01:54 Onyx4 called "ipkgfiles" it lists whats in your ipk 21:02:00 Onyx4 so you can check if everything made it in 21:02:29 Onyx4 let me add it to the buildroot hehe 21:02:58 kergoth Onyx4: i was just going to suggest that :) 21:03:01 kergoth Onyx4: add ipkgcontrol too, will you? 21:03:07 kergoth Onyx4: throw em in scripts/ 21:03:24 Onyx4 well my script displays both at same time you'll see 21:03:34 Onyx4 i just like it that way :) 21:04:03 Onyx4 ok it's in 21:05:11 TheMasterMind1 PATH="/opt/QtPalmtop/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/mnt/card/opt/QtPalmtop/bin:/mnt/card/sbin:/mnt/card/usr/sbin:/mnt/card/usr/local/sbin:/mnt/card/usr/local/bin:/mnt/card/usr/bin:/mnt/card/bin:/mnt/cf/opt/QtPalmtop/bin:/mnt/cf/sbin:/mnt/cf/usr/sbin:/mnt/cf/usr/local/sbin:/mnt/cf/usr/local/bin:/mnt/cf/usr/bin:/mnt/cf/bin:/mnt/ram/opt/QtPalmtop/bin:/mnt/ram/sbin:/mnt/ram/usr/sbin:/mnt/ram/usr/loca 21:05:23 TheMasterMind1 hmm. it cut it off 21:05:33 TheMasterMind1 long 21:07:56 TheMasterMind1 kergoth: fixed yet? 21:08:23 kergoth TheMasterMind1: i'm tweaking things. i just made qt's makefile call out mkipks to generate only the qt ipks 21:08:30 kergoth TheMasterMind1: instead of relying on opie to generate qt's ipks, which is lame 21:09:05 TheMasterMind1 heh 21:09:06 TheMasterMind1 ok 21:09:31 TheMasterMind1 did qte compile ok? 21:09:44 kergoth yeha 21:11:26 TheMasterMind1 goddamit 21:12:35 ljp tweak 21:13:48 TheMasterMind1 did opie compile? 21:15:02 kergoth nifty, it installed qt/e into the rootfs 21:15:04 kergoth i didnt try opie yet 21:15:39 TheMasterMind1 k 21:19:18 ljp mopie opie 21:22:58 kergoth Onyx4, TheMasterMind1: did you guys increment revision on the latest changes to oz-base, netbase, etc? 21:23:14 kergoth Onyx4, TheMasterMind1: we dont want to break people upgrading, when we change things like file locations 21:23:39 Onyx4 mmm no 21:23:46 ljp ya! whip 'em into shape, kergoth! 21:23:49 Onyx4 but file locations aren't really changing per say 21:24:10 Onyx4 but looks like we need to bump up revision if we want them to see it as a new package right 21:24:14 kergoth yeah 21:24:19 kergoth it wont upgrade them until a revision boost 21:24:23 kergoth which could be good or bad 21:24:30 kergoth like moving a file from one package to another 21:24:38 kergoth if they upgrade in the wrong order, ipkg will say there's a conflict 21:24:52 kergoth cause two packages will try to own the same package at the same time 21:25:01 kergoth to handle those situations, we need to depend on certain versions of things 21:25:16 Onyx4 well in the case of netkit and such, the file is just removed from oz-base, but it not put into netkit , cause it's creted by the postinst script 21:25:17 kergoth like, to use the version of one package that now incldues this file, they need the version of the other package that no longer does 21:25:19 kergoth got it? 21:25:22 Onyx4 and ipkg is not aware of it 21:25:26 kergoth Onyx4: that should be fine 21:25:35 Onyx4 but I'll keep that in mind for other stuff tough 21:25:38 kergoth Onyx4: just talking in general, trying to establish a policy on these things 21:25:40 kergoth yeah 21:26:38 Onyx4 so if a package doesn't have a "reivison" in the control, I should put one? 21:26:40 kergoth TheMasterMind1: opie config.in? 21:26:42 kergoth Onyx4: yeah 21:26:48 Onyx4 ok adding for netkit-ftp 21:28:58 Onyx4 hehe I don't think netkit-ftp was ever built, the makefile format was real old something not like the others 21:29:04 Onyx4 so I made it built now, ready to checkin 21:29:12 kergoth ohhh the olddddddd format 21:29:15 kergoth hehe 21:29:54 Onyx4 kergoth why do we put default in config.in and also the def-config/openzaurus ? 21:30:22 kergoth Onyx4: i added def-config so we can add multiple sets of defaults 21:30:29 kergoth Onyx4: to generate a full feed, i'll want one with everything enabled, for example 21:30:31 kergoth Onyx4: def-configs/feed 21:30:35 kergoth Onyx4: so i added a oz one too 21:30:42 Onyx4 ok 21:31:00 kergoth Onyx4: in general, when configuring, the user shouldnt trust the defaults for make *config, but should instead copy the one they should use 21:31:10 kergoth Onyx4: or configure and select things manually 21:31:25 kergoth Onyx4: the defaults in config.in are just for convenience 21:32:54 Onyx4 k 21:34:53 TheMasterMind1 im' back 21:34:54 TheMasterMind1 what's up 21:35:57 TheMasterMind1 do qte/opie compile now? 21:36:02 Onyx4 you changed oz-base? 21:36:30 kergoth TheMasterMind1: opie doesnt compile yet, you didnt convert tmake 21:36:35 ljp opie's always compiled ;) 21:36:36 kergoth TheMasterMind1: but no worries, i just did that 21:36:44 kergoth smacks ljp 21:36:48 Onyx4 netkit-ftp is checked in 21:37:41 TheMasterMind1 Error! /zaurus/buildroot/packages/qte-2.3.4/qte-2.3.4-patch not found. 21:37:42 TheMasterMind1 Error! /zaurus/buildroot/packages/qte-2.3.4/qte-20020909-uic.tar.gz not found. 21:37:50 TheMasterMind1 hmm 21:38:06 TheMasterMind1 i think i forgot to co 21:38:37 TheMasterMind1 still isn't finding uic 21:39:33 Onyx4 we dont need net-tools anymore 21:39:41 Onyx4 it's provided by busybox 21:40:17 Onyx4 I'll mark it in todo 21:40:34 TheMasterMind1 kergoth: how is this uic thing supposed to work? 21:40:46 kergoth just hold on 21:40:53 TheMasterMind1 mod->go: outfile is /zaurus/buildroot/build/qt-2.3.4-snapshot-20020909-uic 21:40:53 TheMasterMind1 SourceTreeModule->go: outfile is /zaurus/buildroot/build/qt-2.3.4-snapshot-20020909-uic 21:40:53 TheMasterMind1 SourceTreeModule->go: output is /zaurus/buildroot/build/qt-2.3.4-snapshot-20020922 21:40:53 TheMasterMind1 Recursing! /zaurus/buildroot/build/qt-2.3.4-snapshot-20020909-uic -> /zaurus/buildroot/build/qt-2.3.4-snapshot-20020922 21:40:53 TheMasterMind1 initialize: module set to Dir 21:40:54 TheMasterMind1 SourceTreeMethod->go: module is Dir 21:40:55 kergoth dood 21:40:56 TheMasterMind1 in_to_out: out is /zaurus/buildroot/build/qt-2.3.4-snapshot-20020922 21:40:58 TheMasterMind1 mod->go: outfile is /zaurus/buildroot/build/qt-2.3.4-snapshot-20020922 21:41:00 TheMasterMind1 cp: cannot stat `/zaurus/buildroot/build/qt-2.3.4-snapshot-20020909-uic': No such file or directory 21:41:02 TheMasterMind1 dir returned 256 21:41:04 kergoth will you fucking wait? 21:41:04 TheMasterMind1 SourceTreeMethod->go->recursion: removing /zaurus/buildroot/build/qt-2.3.4-snapshot-20020909-uic 21:41:06 TheMasterMind1 SourceTreeMethod->go->recursion: removing /zaurus/buildroot/build/qt-2.3.4-snapshot-20020909-uic.tar 21:41:06 kergoth i'm fixing the opie build 21:41:08 TheMasterMind1 heh 21:41:12 TheMasterMind1 ok ok 21:41:14 TheMasterMind1 i'll wait 21:41:16 TheMasterMind1 ok 21:41:19 TheMasterMind1 this is qte though :) 21:41:25 kergoth and that was all harmless 21:41:45 kergoth dir returned 256 because it tried to recurse and realized something b0rked 21:41:46 TheMasterMind1 the name of the uic.tar.gz was wrong, i fixed it and now its doing that 21:41:47 kergoth its fine 21:41:56 kergoth it extracted fine 21:41:59 TheMasterMind1 ok 21:42:00 kergoth heh 21:42:28 TheMasterMind1 ah, so that's where uic goes 21:42:34 TheMasterMind1 so we need to set that path somewhere 21:42:39 kergoth we arleady do 21:42:54 kergoth PATH+=$(BUILD_DIR)/tmake-1.8/bin:$(BUILD_DIR)/qt-2.3.4-snapshot-$(snapshot)/bin:$(BUILD_DIR)/mtd/util 21:43:00 kergoth the qtdir/bin is in the path 21:43:06 kergoth now let me work on this 21:43:34 TheMasterMind1 yea 21:44:04 Onyx4 mmm do we build ipv6 in the kernel? 21:44:56 TheMasterMind1 check 21:45:00 TheMasterMind1 i can't remember 21:45:11 Onyx4 because busybox is compiled with ipv6 support 21:45:25 TheMasterMind1 CONFIG_IPV6=y 21:45:26 TheMasterMind1 yes we do 21:45:29 ljp uses ipv7 21:45:42 TheMasterMind1 heh 21:45:45 Onyx4 mmm ok none of the config scripts are really setup to use that 21:45:53 TheMasterMind1 heh 21:45:58 TheMasterMind1 i don't think anyone uses ipv6 21:45:59 Onyx4 that's probably a waste of resources, but heh 21:46:07 TheMasterMind1 yea 21:46:40 kergoth waste of resources? 21:46:42 kergoth what is? 21:46:50 Onyx4 ipv6, I mean kernel memory 21:46:56 kergoth not really 21:47:03 kergoth we've had at least 8 requests for ipv6 support 21:47:07 Onyx4 oh ok 21:47:14 kergoth though I never got around to dealing with it 21:47:15 Onyx4 then let's keep it in for future implementation 21:47:15 TheMasterMind1 kergoth: how much does the new terminfo packaging save? on / 21:47:26 kergoth TheMasterMind1: about 4.5 megs 21:47:29 TheMasterMind1 sweet 21:47:32 kergoth yep 21:47:36 TheMasterMind1 that's awesome 21:47:38 kergoth course thats compresses 21:47:41 kergoth compressed 21:47:42 ljp does that mean I'll need to update opieftp to use ipv6 functions? 21:47:48 kergoth the 16mb flash is really like 25megs or something 21:47:54 kergoth and it saves 5 of uncompressed space 21:48:01 TheMasterMind1 oh 21:48:02 TheMasterMind1 hmm 21:48:17 kergoth so you wont see as much free as you'd think, but its still a major improvement 21:48:25 TheMasterMind1 yea 21:48:25 TheMasterMind1 cool 21:48:27 TheMasterMind1 hows opie coming 21:48:32 Onyx4 kergoth: how do you know you exceeded the jffs2 size? 21:48:45 kergoth Onyx4: right now we dont check, which is bad 21:48:59 kergoth Onyx4: we should be sanity checking the initrd.bin size to make sure it never exceeds the max 21:49:00 Onyx4 cause we pad up to 14, so it's hard to know how much we really have :) 21:49:06 kergoth well, that 14 is max 21:49:13 kergoth if your initrd.bin gets larger than that 21:49:17 kergoth you've gone too far :) 21:49:22 Onyx4 hehe ok 21:49:38 kergoth TheMasterMind1: did you push that uic naming change in the qte makefile upstream yet? 21:49:46 TheMasterMind1 yep 21:50:00 TheMasterMind1 and the path fixed 21:50:06 TheMasterMind1 since its in 0909 21:50:14 TheMasterMind1 not the latest 21:50:16 kergoth k 21:51:07 scanline is away: dinnertime 21:52:13 Onyx4 what depends on libapm.so ? 21:52:50 kergoth Onyx4: apm 21:52:52 kergoth Onyx4: :) 21:53:00 Onyx4 ok thought opie or something used that 21:53:05 kergoth hrm 21:53:15 Onyx4 I'm gonna convert apmd now 21:53:16 kergoth i think opie calls apm or uses ioctl()s on the apm_bios device 21:53:18 kergoth but we can check 21:53:20 kergoth okay 21:53:46 ljp sandman supposedly changed the ioctl calls to mimic the apm source 21:54:08 kergoth yeah, he and i were comparing them trying to find the source of the suspend issue 21:54:12 ljp I think that part will need more testing 21:54:18 kergoth but does opie use apm_bios to check the battery status? 21:54:23 kergoth i think it does 21:54:33 kergoth oh sweet 21:54:38 kergoth giFTcurs shows bitrate now 21:54:39 Onyx4 what else needs libtool so I can check an example of dep 21:54:40 ljp it disables /dev/apm_bios 21:55:05 kergoth ljp: it uses apm_bios. 21:55:16 kergoth ljp: in multiple places, it uses ioctl calls to talk to it 21:55:24 kergoth ljp: what it disables is the kernel handling of the power off switch 21:55:58 ljp ahh 21:56:24 Onyx4 I can put two lines like this 21:56:28 Onyx4 depends LIBC6 21:56:31 ljp hmm that part is no longer in core/launcher/main.cpp 21:56:31 Onyx4 depends LIBTOOl 21:56:32 Onyx4 ? 21:56:34 TheMasterMind1 yea i think so 21:56:39 kergoth Onyx4: it uses libtool in its compilation 21:56:45 kergoth Onyx4: and we cant rely on the one for the build system 21:56:46 TheMasterMind1 btw, i've noticed 21:56:50 TheMasterMind1 the suspend issue doesn't happen 21:56:53 kergoth Onyx4: so its really a 'build' dependency 21:56:55 TheMasterMind1 when i do it via the start menu thing 21:57:01 TheMasterMind1 but when it autosuspends, it does happen 21:57:01 kergoth TheMasterMind1: 'smart menu thing' 21:57:04 kergoth TheMasterMind1: ? 21:57:14 kergoth TheMasterMind1: oh suspend via start menu, gotcha 21:57:14 TheMasterMind1 the Q in the bottom leftcorner 21:57:16 TheMasterMind1 themenu 21:57:16 kergoth heh 21:58:07 Onyx4 kergoth: right but apmd needs libtool 21:58:13 kergoth of course it does 21:58:15 Onyx4 kergoth: so I need to put depends libtool I guess 21:58:19 kergoth Onyx4: thats what i'm talking about, yeah exactly 21:58:22 kergoth Onyx4: hehe 21:58:41 kergoth Onyx4: unfortunately the kernel config system doesnt seperate depends and builddepends, so we just depend on it 21:58:42 Onyx4 and I can put two "depends" line in config.in? 21:58:44 kergoth Onyx4: doesnt hurt us much 21:58:53 kergoth hm 21:58:55 kergoth hold on 21:58:59 kergoth we might have to do 21:59:04 kergoth DEPENDS = LIBTOOL && LIBC6 21:59:08 kergoth instead of two lines 21:59:11 kergoth but let me verify 21:59:16 Onyx4 or I guess if I put "libtool" since libtool depends on libc6 it'll do a recursive dependancy? :) 22:00:31 TheMasterMind1 heh 22:00:34 TheMasterMind1 yea that will work too 22:00:39 Onyx4 cool 22:00:45 TheMasterMind1 we need something that makes an image 22:00:47 TheMasterMind1 of all dependencies 22:00:48 kergoth libtool doesnt and should not depend on libc6 22:00:51 TheMasterMind1 just cuz it would look cool 22:00:51 kergoth its a script 22:00:55 kergoth it doesnt link against libc6 22:01:01 TheMasterMind1 oops. 22:01:02 TheMasterMind1 heh 22:01:02 kergoth and its a build dependency, it runs on teh build machine, x876 22:01:04 kergoth er 22:01:07 kergoth x86 22:01:16 kergoth TheMasterMind1: my dependency generator could produce a jpeg or something 22:01:19 kergoth TheMasterMind1: a dependency map 22:01:22 TheMasterMind1 that'd be awesome 22:05:33 Onyx4 what's this for in apmd compile? 22:05:35 Onyx4 -I$(CURDIR)/debian/linux-2.2/include 22:06:06 kergoth heh 22:06:08 kergoth no idea 22:06:20 kergoth probably remnants of the debian patch which we apply 22:06:22 kergoth or something 22:06:31 kergoth or remnants of swiped build commands from the debian/rules file 22:06:33 kergoth hehe 22:06:51 Onyx4 is CURDIR still valid or I need to replace that by $(SourceTree) ? 22:07:02 Onyx4 I'll try to take it out and see 22:13:13 Onyx4 what is apmd started by? 22:13:18 kergoth ? 22:13:20 kergoth we dont use apmd 22:13:29 kergoth apmd package is two pieces, the apm binary, and the apmd daemon 22:13:36 kergoth we only use the former, not the latter 22:13:39 Onyx4 ah 22:13:41 Onyx4 gotcha 22:13:54 Onyx4 so I should not install apmd? 22:14:03 kergoth i'd split it 22:14:06 kergoth build two ipks 22:14:08 kergoth :) 22:14:16 kergoth apmd-client apmd-server perhaps? 22:14:25 kergoth or if theres anything shared, add apmd-common? 22:14:27 kergoth hm 22:14:35 Onyx4 well if there is no real use for it, why confuse people and give them to option to add apm 22:14:43 kergoth we may add apmd later. 22:14:47 Onyx4 k 22:15:00 kergoth it depends on whether gaining the ability to use suspend/resume scripts is worth whatever overhead it adds 22:15:13 Onyx4 the current apmd makefile does not install apmd 22:15:21 Onyx4 I don't think it builds it either 22:15:26 kergoth i know 22:15:31 kergoth eh 22:16:34 Onyx4 guess I need to change that name in config.in to something like "apm tools" ? 22:16:44 Onyx4 I wrote apm deamon hehe 22:17:02 kergoth yeah 22:17:04 kergoth something like that 22:17:10 kergoth steal debian's description from debian/control 22:17:12 kergoth :) 22:17:59 Onyx4 install -m 0644 debian/copyright $(TARGET_DIR)/CONTROL/copyright 22:18:01 Onyx4 what's this for ? :) 22:18:10 kergoth um, nothing? 22:18:12 kergoth hehe 22:18:18 Onyx4 ok :) 22:18:20 kergoth i dont even know if ipkg installs that into /usr/share 22:20:04 scanline is back (gone 00:28:57) 22:20:39 scanline is away: hiding from all the people that want to talk to him in #picogui 22:20:48 TheMasterMind1 scanline: port the picogui stuff in the buildroot 22:24:08 TheMasterMind1 kergoth: how comes opie? 22:24:32 kergoth TheMasterMind1: had to recompile qt/e, waiting patiently 22:24:58 TheMasterMind1 k 22:25:12 scanline is back (gone 00:04:33) 22:26:47 Onyx4 mmm how come the IPK did not strip by libapm.so.1.0.0 ? 22:26:54 Onyx4 s/by/my 22:27:05 TheMasterMind1 hmm 22:27:10 TheMasterMind1 does stuff strip by default or not? 22:27:20 Onyx4 yes 22:27:40 Onyx4 because of the build process 22:27:46 Onyx4 it finds executables files and strip the 22:27:47 Onyx4 it finds executables files and strip them 22:27:54 TheMasterMind1 ok 22:27:56 kergoth Onyx4: lame, we should have it running 'file' to check 22:28:02 kergoth Onyx4: been on my todo for a while now, keep forgetting 22:28:37 Onyx4 ok so I wonder if the other libs are not stripped 22:29:15 kergoth are they excecutable? 22:29:17 kergoth most should be 755 22:29:34 Onyx4 oh wait that's the problem, the library is not executable 22:29:40 TheMasterMind1 heh 22:29:41 TheMasterMind1 kjsdf 22:29:46 Onyx4 ok let me fix that 22:29:51 kergoth TheMasterMind1: qt/e is still going.. 22:30:00 TheMasterMind1 you think sharp will give us the new zaurus models so we can develop :D 22:30:10 TheMasterMind1 i hear release date is nov1st 22:31:18 ljp no 22:32:52 Onyx4 so this was actually a bug in the old apmd package, the lib was set 644 22:33:01 Onyx4 so not stripped, I'll bump up the rev 22:33:20 TheMasterMind1 :d 22:33:22 Onyx4 can we do "make clean packagename" ? 22:33:28 TheMasterMind1 Onyx4 is getting good at this 22:33:36 kergoth Onyx4: not yet 22:33:45 Onyx4 apm package is done, let me check it in 22:33:56 kergoth TheMasterMind1: opie is compiling 22:34:01 TheMasterMind1 k 22:34:14 TheMasterMind1 does it do ipk installing into rootfs and stuff? 22:34:16 TheMasterMind1 the makefilethat 22:34:16 TheMasterMind1 is 22:34:30 kergoth not yet 22:34:30 TheMasterMind1 s/makefilethat/makefile that/ 22:34:32 TheMasterMind1 pl 22:34:32 kergoth i dont think anyway, i havent gotten that far 22:34:33 TheMasterMind1 ok 22:34:35 kergoth heh 22:35:55 Onyx4 a nice command I like too is "bk pending" before doing the commit see if everything is there 22:36:21 kergoth yeah, that and bk -r diffs are great 22:36:32 kergoth to see what you've done and not ci'd, and then pending to see what you've ci'd but not committed 22:36:35 TheMasterMind1 whoa 22:36:38 TheMasterMind1 what's this pending? 22:36:38 kergoth bk is so nifty 22:36:45 kergoth TheMasterMind1: shows what is pending a commit 22:36:47 TheMasterMind1 show me output 22:36:51 kergoth TheMasterMind1: things that you ci'd but didnt commit 22:36:58 TheMasterMind1 i see 22:36:59 TheMasterMind1 cool 22:37:00 kergoth i cant, my buildroot is making opie atm 22:37:02 kergoth heh 22:38:05 kergoth Onyx4: what do you think for individual package clean and mrproper targets? 22:38:19 kergoth Onyx4: I mean, mrproper should obviously wipe sources, build dir, and everything else 22:38:31 kergoth Onyx4: but clean... should it only wipe the sourcetree dir and leave sources in place? 22:38:43 TheMasterMind1 yes 22:39:35 TheMasterMind1 hmm 22:39:38 TheMasterMind1 i want more qt fonts 22:39:50 Onyx4 I was thinking that clean should just wipe the ipkg install temp location maybe? 22:40:16 kergoth hehe 22:40:16 TheMasterMind1 ipkg_clean 22:40:19 kergoth we have like 4 steps 22:40:30 kergoth 5 actually. source, sourcetree, binary, staging, ipk 22:40:35 TheMasterMind1 setup a clean for each :) 22:40:38 Onyx4 cp: cannot stat `/home/clambert/oz/buildroot-oz/build/opie/qt/qconfig*.h': No such file or directory 22:40:46 Onyx4 I am missing something? 22:40:47 kergoth Onyx4: wait up 22:40:51 kergoth Onyx4: i have patches pending 22:40:54 Onyx4 ah ok 22:40:57 TheMasterMind1 it should have source extracted that 22:40:57 TheMasterMind1 hmm 22:41:00 kergoth Onyx4: committing when opie finishes compiling 22:41:05 TheMasterMind1 even without kergoth's patches 22:41:30 TheMasterMind1 btw, when this is all done 22:41:40 TheMasterMind1 we're releasing oz 3.5 or something 22:41:46 kergoth hehe 22:41:54 jmhodges sweeet new rom 22:42:02 jmhodges no more freezes! :D 22:42:07 kergoth i need to finish up the patches to run opie as nonroot, the added groups and changed device permissions and shit 22:42:13 Onyx4 jmhodges: ? 22:42:14 TheMasterMind1 fine 22:42:16 kergoth i want that done prior to release, but it wont take more than a few minutes 22:42:17 TheMasterMind1 3.2.5 then 22:42:21 TheMasterMind1 heh 22:42:25 TheMasterMind1 ok, when that's done 22:42:26 TheMasterMind1 3.5 22:42:28 ljp ya make it so 22:42:31 TheMasterMind1 that way everyone upgrades 22:42:37 TheMasterMind1 and no one's running shitty stuff any more 22:42:42 TheMasterMind1 so much has improved 22:42:57 ljp doesnt upgrade, only flashes 22:43:24 jmhodges Onyx4: my Z freezes randomly 22:43:51 jmhodges also it freezes if i interact with apps before the Today app comes up when i come back from suspend 22:43:59 TheMasterMind1 jmhodges: what rom 22:44:06 TheMasterMind1 and is it like freezing every couple of seconds? 22:44:09 jmhodges the latest one 22:44:11 jmhodges no its not 22:44:13 TheMasterMind1 heh 22:44:15 TheMasterMind1 "latest" 22:44:21 TheMasterMind1 from sf/testing/tjhsst.edu ? 22:44:26 jmhodges sf 22:44:31 kergoth thats old 22:44:31 TheMasterMind1 theres a lot of latests 22:44:33 jmhodges sorry latest stable 22:44:33 kergoth hehe 22:44:34 jmhodges :) 22:44:37 kergoth oz isnt stable 22:44:39 kergoth there is no stable 22:44:41 kergoth :) 22:44:46 jmhodges "stable-r" 22:44:48 jmhodges jackass :) 22:44:53 jmhodges i know im using a beta 22:44:56 jmhodges ;) 22:45:08 ljp how'd oz get from 2.9.5.5 to 2.9.9? 22:45:19 kergoth ljp: TheMasterMind1 is psycho 22:45:24 kergoth ljp: we're about to release 2.9.7 22:45:27 kergoth ljp: :) 22:45:29 ljp heh figgered so 22:45:30 jmhodges heheh 22:45:38 TheMasterMind1 damn you! 22:45:46 TheMasterMind1 how can you release 2.9.7 ?! 22:45:48 TheMasterMind1 after all the fixes! 22:46:03 kergoth heh 22:46:11 kergoth depends on how stable opie is looking atm 22:46:23 TheMasterMind1 i'll prerelease a warez version of 3.5 22:46:24 TheMasterMind1 heh 22:46:38 kergoth 3.5 would be insane 22:46:39 jmhodges lol 22:46:51 kergoth much too far ahead 22:46:58 TheMasterMind1 ok, how about 3.1 22:46:59 TheMasterMind1 that's fair 22:47:03 kergoth now i could see this being 3.0, if opie is stable enough 22:47:15 kergoth i'll call the release with 2.4.19 4.0 or something 22:47:20 TheMasterMind1 yes 22:47:24 ljp not 3.0 until apmd works 22:47:25 TheMasterMind1 so how about 3.0.5 22:47:33 Onyx4 I did apmd 22:47:41 kergoth ljp: we're not using apmd persay 22:47:53 kergoth TheMasterMind1: he's got a point. we shouldnt release 3.0 until the suspend issue is fixed. 22:48:00 ljp well, until suspending isnt causing cruft 22:48:11 Onyx4 there is a suspend issue? 22:48:15 kergoth Onyx4: yeah 22:48:20 ljp suspend/resume 22:48:21 TheMasterMind1 suspend issue will be fixed by the time we have all the mks ported 22:48:25 kergoth Onyx4: opie uses an ioctl to the apm_bios device during suspend, instead of calling apm -s 22:48:27 kergoth TheMasterMind1: doubt that. 22:48:33 kergoth TheMasterMind1: most of the opie devs use ipaqs, not Z's 22:48:36 kergoth TheMasterMind1: and this is Z specific 22:48:43 TheMasterMind1 so patch it to use apm -s ? 22:48:50 TheMasterMind1 its probably the kernel anyway 22:48:52 kergoth TheMasterMind1: that causes a whole different issue 22:48:54 TheMasterMind1 will be fixed with .19 22:48:57 kergoth TheMasterMind1: (using apm -s i mean) 22:48:58 TheMasterMind1 oh? 22:49:01 kergoth TheMasterMind1: yeah 22:49:06 TheMasterMind1 what issue 22:49:07 kergoth TheMasterMind1: i had verxion try it 22:49:15 kergoth TheMasterMind1: i dont recall what the behavior was off the top of my head 22:49:30 TheMasterMind1 we can have it do apm -s if there's a cf card, and ioctl otherwise 22:49:39 kergoth TheMasterMind1: thatd be pointless 22:49:42 ljp I hope your guys idea of 'fixing' opie stuff isn't to just add a patch to your opie tree 22:49:54 kergoth TheMasterMind1: i'm telling you, its just as broken with apm -s as it is with teh ioctl, only differently 22:49:57 kergoth ljp: well obviously. 22:50:08 ljp k.. just making sure ;) 22:50:10 TheMasterMind1 hides 22:50:13 kergoth i was going to add a patch to mkipks, till ir emembered i have cvs access 22:50:16 kergoth hehe 22:50:26 jmhodges oooo mkipks? 22:50:33 kergoth jmhodges: ? 22:50:37 jmhodges im so out of it sorry 22:50:41 kergoth jmhodges: just a patch to make it handle being run from outside of $OPIEDIR 22:50:46 kergoth np 22:50:48 jmhodges ok :) 22:51:12 jmhodges im now a freshman in college and ive lost my footing outside of #lunar and campus life :) 22:51:47 Onyx4 what's all this openobex for? 22:51:51 kergoth Onyx4: beaming. 22:51:57 Onyx4 ah 22:52:30 kergoth Onyx4: seems like you're getting the hang of the new system. what do you think of it? 22:52:43 Onyx4 hehe :) I think it's cool 22:52:48 Onyx4 it takes me just minutes now to do a package 22:53:02 Onyx4 if there isn't anything qwerky abou tit 22:53:06 TheMasterMind1 heh 22:53:18 TheMasterMind1 remember to update TODO 22:53:24 Onyx4 I always do check it 22:53:36 kergoth the qte-opie deal is a bit quirky, thankfully we're almost done with that 22:53:37 Onyx4 it's all marked up to openssl which is next 22:53:50 TheMasterMind1 heh 22:53:51 Onyx4 so I'll try openssl now 22:54:02 TheMasterMind1 getting qte/opie working originally (in the old buildroot) was a major pain in the ass 22:54:03 kergoth hm 22:54:13 kergoth i should wirte a makefile sanity checker 22:54:24 kergoth to warn you if the makefile doesnt have the targets it needs, or the variables it needs defined 22:54:30 kergoth thatd be nifty 22:54:55 kergoth fuck opie takes a long time to compile 22:55:38 ljp heh yup 22:55:42 ljp distcc? 22:55:54 kergoth i only own one box atm 22:55:56 kergoth heh 22:55:59 ljp oh 22:56:00 kergoth i shouldve done a -j2 though 22:56:28 ljp if I get that cool job, I'll send you one of mine 22:57:16 TheMasterMind1 what's this distcc? 22:57:25 ljp: sorry... 22:57:25 ljp ibot: distcc 22:57:31 ljp fudge 22:57:37 ljp google it 22:57:47 TheMasterMind1 heh 22:58:03 TheMasterMind1 whoa! 22:58:10 TheMasterMind1 you mean i can use ALL 40 machines to compile?! 22:58:11 ljp that or teambuilder 22:58:32 ljp as long as they have the same version of gcc 22:58:32 TheMasterMind1 sweeet 22:58:34 TheMasterMind1 how do i do this 22:58:43 TheMasterMind1 so i'd need arm-linux-gcc on all machines? 22:59:26 ljp yes 22:59:45 TheMasterMind1 and what else 22:59:49 TheMasterMind1 apt-get install distcc on all of em? 23:00:11 Onyx4 mmm why does openssl has this "version' and "subversion" control things? should I keep that? 23:00:17 Onyx4 or just use the version ? 23:00:59 ljp read the distcc docs 23:01:05 kergoth Onyx4: dunno, just use version 23:02:06 Onyx4 k 23:12:44 TheMasterMind1 humps distcc 23:12:47 TheMasterMind1 i'm installing it on all 41 computers 23:13:09 kergoth TheMasterMind1: school lab? 23:13:09 ljp wonders where that ipv4 to ipv6 programming faq was... 23:13:17 TheMasterMind1 kergoth: yea 23:13:26 TheMasterMind1 i do all software install/upgrade stuff 23:13:37 ljp heh kernel compile in about 2 minutes 23:13:52 Onyx4 does ssh usesopenssl? 23:14:01 TheMasterMind1 its so much easier with debian 23:14:04 TheMasterMind1 used to all run slack 23:14:04 kergoth Onyx4: yes 23:14:10 TheMasterMind1 we converted to debian over the summer 23:14:14 Onyx4 static or dynamix with openssl ? 23:14:43 kergoth dynamic 23:14:46 kergoth konq also uses it 23:14:50 Onyx4 k 23:14:51 kergoth for https 23:16:27 Onyx4 I think openssh links with openssl but static 23:16:36 Onyx4 cause ssh works without the openssl ipk installed 23:16:48 kergoth we dont want that 23:16:55 kergoth can you figure out why? 23:16:55 Onyx4 yep 23:17:04 kergoth cause if there's a bug in openssl i want to be able to update it without recompiling half the distro 23:17:06 Onyx4 normally even on my mandrake system it's like that check ldd /usr/bin/ssh 23:17:07 kergoth hehe 23:17:11 kergoth yeah 23:17:19 Onyx4 is it like that on debian too? 23:17:51 kergoth no, its not 23:17:53 Onyx4 oh wait libcrypto.so.0 is part of openssl duh 23:17:54 kergoth thats fucking stupid 23:17:57 kergoth er 23:18:00 kergoth yeah 23:18:08 kergoth it links dynamically against libcrypto, doesnt link against libssl 23:18:08 Onyx4 thought that was part of the main system 23:18:13 kergoth i assume it only uses libcrypto 23:18:16 Onyx4 yep 23:18:18 kergoth nope, libcrypt is the base system 23:18:20 kergoth libcrypto is not 23:18:22 kergoth :) 23:18:26 Onyx4 ok 23:21:50 TheMasterMind1 phosphorus:/home/agupta# apt-get upgrade 23:21:50 TheMasterMind1 Reading Package Lists... Done 23:21:50 TheMasterMind1 Building Dependency Tree... Done 23:21:50 TheMasterMind1 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 23:21:55 TheMasterMind1 heheh 23:22:03 TheMasterMind1 i just upgraded like 120 packages 23:22:23 TheMasterMind1 need to reimage all the machiens tommorow 23:24:37 Onyx4 kergoth: ok since if you look at http://openzaurus.sourceforge.net/feeds/3.0/ 23:24:45 Onyx4 oops http://www.tjhsst.edu/~agupta/oz2.9.9/ 23:24:50 Onyx4 the openssl is named openssl_main 23:25:00 Onyx4 I should put a "replaces openssl_main" in the control? 23:25:09 Onyx4 that package is empty :) 23:25:13 Onyx4 must have not worked 23:25:19 kergoth openssl-main was nothing 23:25:21 kergoth useless 23:25:28 kergoth never was on people's Z's, so its not worth it 23:25:37 Onyx4 ok 23:25:37 kergoth Onyx4: whatd you call the apmd package(s)? 23:25:51 Onyx4 just like they were 23:25:54 Onyx4 didn't change it 23:26:15 kergoth so just a 'apmd' package, with only 'apm'? 23:26:22 Onyx4 and libapm yes 23:26:29 kergoth okay, cool 23:26:55 Onyx4 im trying to make less changes as possible compared to the known good packages to we can at least produce the same result we did before 23:27:01 Onyx4 then we could start enhancing 23:27:08 kergoth sounds like a plan 23:27:14 TheMasterMind1 eh 23:27:16 kergoth i'm still curious if current busybox explodes 23:27:18 TheMasterMind1 as long as your eiditing 23:27:22 TheMasterMind1 might as well fix stuff 23:27:30 TheMasterMind1 that way we can start expanding 23:27:32 TheMasterMind1 adding enw packages 23:27:34 TheMasterMind1 instead of fixing old 23:27:36 kergoth TheMasterMind1: the more variables we change, the more possible shit we break 23:28:28 Onyx4 kergoth: oh I know where the problem is now with openssl 23:28:38 Onyx4 the name is libssl 23:28:44 kergoth ? 23:28:53 Onyx4 so we have now openssl and libssl 23:29:05 kergoth ahh 23:29:07 Onyx4 should I just say that openssl replaces libssl or keep the libssl name 23:29:09 kergoth it shoudl be libssl0.9.6 iirc 23:29:25 kergoth we want to follow what it was before, as i was following debian's package naming 23:30:36 Onyx4 mmm ok now it's weird because if I change the name on top, it won't match the $(Name) being used to download the files and create the build directory 23:30:43 kergoth okay here's how you do it 23:30:50 kergoth $(stamp-ipk) : Name=libssl0.9.6 23:30:54 kergoth leave the Name up top as openssl 23:31:02 Onyx4 ah ok 23:31:02 kergoth you can pass a seperate variable to the ipk build process 23:31:10 kergoth i do that for the multi-ipk builds 23:31:13 kergoth can do that here too 23:31:21 Onyx4 that's what I was gonna look for, like the ncurses 23:31:23 kergoth hmm 23:31:28 kergoth my ipkg wont compile anymore 23:31:32 kergoth does yours? 23:31:46 TheMasterMind1 hows opie? 23:31:53 kergoth TheMasterMind1: builds, ipks. doesnt install into rootfs yet 23:31:59 TheMasterMind1 cool 23:32:02 kergoth TheMasterMind1: i pushed the changes up 23:32:54 kergoth make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/src/coding/projects/user/buildroot/build/ipkg/C/replace' 23:32:56 kergoth make[5]: *** No rule to make target `malloc.o', needed by `libreplace.a'. Stop. 23:33:03 TheMasterMind1 hmm 23:41:18 TheMasterMind1 /zaurus/buildroot/build/qt-2.3.4-snapshot-20020922/bin/uic otimepickerbase.ui -o ./otimepickerbase.h 23:41:19 TheMasterMind1 grr 23:41:23 TheMasterMind1 its in 0909 23:41:30 TheMasterMind1 fix that please 23:42:02 kergoth ? 23:42:06 kergoth no, its not in 0909 23:42:17 kergoth i altered the uic tarball 23:42:19 kergoth heh 23:42:19 TheMasterMind1 oh 23:42:20 TheMasterMind1 you suck 23:45:11 Onyx4 how do you overwrite a variable that's in the makefile with make? 23:45:36 kergoth Onyx4: for what? 23:45:36 Onyx4 like MANDIR is defined hardcoded in openssl 23:45:54 kergoth $(MAKE) MANDIR=blah 23:45:54 Onyx4 instead of using $PREFIX 23:46:01 kergoth it'll prefer the cmdline passed values 23:46:03 kergoth to its own 23:46:13 Onyx4 mmm strange it doesn't seem to work 23:46:43 Onyx4 oh wait 23:46:45 Onyx4 syntax 23:47:05 Onyx4 ok misspelled staging 23:51:08 TheMasterMind1 heh 23:51:34 kergoth fuck 23:51:37 kergoth ipkg wont compiel for me for arm 23:51:40 kergoth ipkg-x86 builds fine 23:51:42 kergoth wtf? 23:51:43 jmhodges ... 23:51:51 jmhodges ouch 23:52:00 jmhodges whats the error kergoth? 23:52:05 kergoth its a build thing 23:52:14 kergoth no rule to build replace.o required by libreplace.a 23:52:23 jmhodges ah 23:54:15 Onyx4 mm libssl-0.9.6 is the name of the package, so the version is hardcoded into it which is libssl-0.9.6-0.9.6 the full name 23:55:08 TheMasterMind1 heh 23:55:27 kergoth Onyx4: override Version as well 23:55:30 Onyx4 so I'm tempted to make things right and call it just libssl and say "replaces libssl-0.9.6" ? 23:55:36 kergoth $(stamp-ipk) : Version=$(Revision) 23:55:42 kergoth $(stamp-ipk) : Revision= 23:55:45 kergoth hehe 23:55:48 kergoth Onyx4: thats an idea 23:55:52 kergoth Onyx4: Conflict and Provides too 23:56:05 kergoth Onyx4: you can set Replaces makefile variable and it'll add it to the control 23:56:12 kergoth Onyx4: same with Conflicts and Replaces 23:56:19 Onyx4 right I was thinking of doing that 23:56:29 Onyx4 so it would be what for each 23:56:37 Onyx4 replaces=libssl-0.9.6 23:56:41 Onyx4 provides=libssl-0.9.6 23:56:41 ljp anyone tried oz with uClibc? 23:56:54 Onyx4 and no conflicts? 23:57:11 kergoth ? 23:57:14 kergoth i just told you 23:57:23 kergoth Replaces=, Conflicts=, Provides= 23:57:28 kergoth capital first letter 23:57:33 kergoth heh 23:57:36 Onyx4 oh I put them empty? 23:57:53 Onyx4 I mean what do I put into each for the ipkg to work right 23:58:07 Wembly hey ker.. new package format.. how debian like it is? 23:58:10 Wembly err is it sorry 23:58:15 kergoth ? 23:58:19 kergoth it *is* the .deb format 23:58:22 Wembly funfun k 23:58:28 kergoth you can use dpkg-deb to extract it 23:58:29 kergoth heh 23:58:30 Wembly what about the package files? 23:58:34 Wembly like control and such? 23:58:39 kergoth what about them? 23:58:43 Wembly are they the same format? 23:58:47 kergoth dood 23:58:53 kergoth we changed from tar.gz outer layer to ar 23:58:55 kergoth thats it 23:59:05 Wembly k 23:59:17 Wembly was control ever diff from debian systems? 23:59:22 kergoth nope 23:59:25 Wembly k 23:59:26 kergoth though some of them werent always supported 23:59:35 kergoth i.e. Conflicts, Replaces, Provides, etc 23:59:37 kergoth make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/src/coding/projects/user/buildroot/build/ipkg/C/replace' 23:59:39 kergoth make[5]: *** No rule to make target `malloc.o', needed by `libreplace.a'. Stop. 23:59:41 kergoth make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/coding/projects/user/buildroot/build/ipkg/C/replace' 23:59:43 kergoth damnit 23:59:54 Wembly so when are we going to move to a system with source packages? ;) Generated by irclog2html.pl by Jeff Waugh - find it at freshmeat.net! Modified by Tim Riker to work with infobot logs, split per channel and by date, etc.

`01:11:57`	`Error403`	`lo all`
`01:11:59`	`Error403`	`kergoth: good news!`
`01:12:05`	`Error403`	`I'm at kde.org on my PDA right now! :)`
`01:15:11`	`Error403`	`works like a charm`
`01:15:17`	`Error403`	`I broke down and bought a CF card and reader`
`01:18:42`	`TheMasterMind1`	`cool`
`01:18:51`	`TheMasterMind1`	`flashed oz 2.9.5.5 ?`
`01:24:57`	`Error403`	`well, yes`
`01:25:01`	`Error403`	`but that's not the cool part`
`01:25:07`	`Error403`	`you don't know the whole story :)`
`01:25:16`	`Error403`	`I'm using a StarTAC modem to do it`
`01:25:23`	`Error403`	`so it's a new definition of "wireless internet"`
`01:25:34`	`Error403`	`Where I get a cell signal, I get 14.4kb/s :)`
`01:29:18`	`TheMasterMind1`	`lol`
`01:33:31`	`sambatron`	`from where should I get the config.in ?`
`01:33:37`	`TheMasterMind1`	`also, the path for the sources has changed`
`01:33:57`	`TheMasterMind1`	`its now $(TOPDIR)/packagename/ not $(SOURCE_DIR)`
`01:34:08`	`TheMasterMind1`	`copy config.in from libtool or something`
`01:34:11`	`TheMasterMind1`	`or pcmcia-cs`
`01:34:18`	`TheMasterMind1`	`and change what's necessary`
`01:34:21`	`TheMasterMind1`	`name, depends, desc etc`
`01:34:28`	`TheMasterMind1`	`default will be n`
`01:34:30`	`sambatron`	`there is no config.in file in there`
`01:34:44`	`sambatron`	`oh, yes`
`01:34:44`	`TheMasterMind1`	`arsenic:/zaurus/buildroot/packages# ls pcmcia-cs/config.in`
`01:34:45`	`sambatron`	`sorry`
`01:35:45`	`TheMasterMind1`	`yea, just look at the ones that have been done already and you should be able to figure it out`
`01:35:51`	`sambatron`	`sorry, what's the vi command to make a word uppercase =`
`01:35:52`	`TheMasterMind1`	`like libtool and libjpeg don't create ipks`
`01:35:52`	`sambatron`	`?`
`01:35:55`	`TheMasterMind1`	`pcmcia-cs does`
`01:36:05`	`TheMasterMind1`	`stuff like that.. each package has its own quirks`
`01:36:12`	`TheMasterMind1`	`many have patches that we apply etc`
`01:36:31`	`sambatron`	`I see`
`01:36:48`	`TheMasterMind1`	`each packagedir/ should have any patches and sources that are in the buildroot`
`01:36:56`	`TheMasterMind1`	`most of the sources are downloaded from bk/http/ftp/cvs`
`01:37:15`	`TheMasterMind1`	`like busybox is cvs, then patched by the buildroot`
`01:38:19`	`TheMasterMind1`	`i'm going to go chill for a while.. bbiaf`
`01:38:24`	`sambatron`	`yep`
`01:38:25`	`sambatron`	`:)`