| 00:00.42 | TheMasterMind1 | yea, that'd be nice |
| 00:01.58 | Twiun | actually... does jeode support rotation? I mean if you've rotated the display beforehand? |
| 00:07.23 | TheMasterMind1 | w00t. controlling tv from 10 feet away! |
| 00:07.54 | TeaX | TheMasterMind1: where can i download lirc? |
| 00:08.07 | TheMasterMind1 | TeaX: i'm still building the ipks for it. it will be part of the unstable feed for OZ soon |
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| 00:16.54 | HMS | who missed me? heh |
| 00:18.19 | HMS | hmmm. apparently noboby. |
| 00:18.20 | chouimat|bored | nobody |
| 00:18.23 | HMS | HAHA |
| 00:18.26 | HMS | that was strange |
| 00:18.35 | HMS | how ya be chouimat? |
| 00:18.45 | chouimat|bored | bored |
| 00:19.05 | HMS | I see that |
| 00:20.49 | Twiun | chouimat|bored: want some work then? |
| 00:24.10 | ljp | nothin like a good flame war.. ahhhhhh |
| 00:25.44 | chouimat|bored | Twiun: I will go eat my pizza and watch some tv |
| 00:26.24 | Twiun | chouimat|bored: hah! |
| 00:26.37 | ljp | oh man... you would have to mention pizza |
| 00:27.14 | ljp | chouimat|bored: if your bored you could help me figure out why the z's audio driver sucks so bad |
| 00:27.18 | chouimat|bored | ljp: how to call a pizza? |
| 00:27.42 | ljp | no, I amnot calling for a pizza ongiht. I think I'll have something else |
| 00:27.52 | chouimat|bored | ljp open the door and yell: PIZZA! |
| 00:27.54 | *** topic/#openzaurus by TheMasterMind1 -> OpenZaurus project - http://www.openzaurus.org/ | opensource java for oz coming REAL soon | oz unstable feed updated : add it as your main feed, and run: ipkg update; ipkg install ipkg; mount -o remount,sync /; ipkg -verbose_wget upgrade | OPERA AND HANCOM WORK ON OZ - wait for OZ3.1 : thank sandman | Unstable feed works again :) | TMM1 fixed lirc :) - could control TV from 10 feet away |
| 00:27.59 | ljp | ahha ha ha |
| 00:28.05 | TheMasterMind1 | :) |
| 00:28.18 | HMS | haha |
| 00:28.51 | chouimat|bored | it's ready, laterz |
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| 00:48.17 | mehuman | TheMasterMind1: did you add lirc ipks to unstable yet? |
| 00:48.34 | TheMasterMind1 | no, i just tested it, haven't even made the ipks yet |
| 00:48.43 | mehuman | oh ok |
| 00:48.51 | mehuman | just wondering |
| 00:49.03 | TheMasterMind1 | and i can't add stuff to the unstable feed anyway |
| 00:49.32 | mehuman | oh |
| 00:49.49 | TheMasterMind1 | last i checked anyway |
| 00:55.16 | ljp | someone needs to make the linux device drivers book into an audio book :) |
| 00:56.25 | HMS | any good free shells out there that anyone knows 'bout? |
| 00:56.35 | HMS | have been looking, have also been unlucky for good ones. |
| 00:56.35 | ljp | shells? |
| 00:56.46 | HMS | yeah |
| 00:56.54 | ljp | I like conch shells the best |
| 00:57.05 | HMS | heh |
| 00:57.06 | HMS | :P |
| 00:57.10 | HMS | they are neat |
| 00:57.11 | HMS | lol |
| 00:57.20 | ljp | shells as in what? bash? |
| 00:57.32 | HMS | no, hosted shells to run processes... |
| 00:57.54 | choui|stillbored | HMS: oysters are good |
| 00:58.06 | HMS | heh |
| 00:58.18 | HMS | I really like oysters |
| 00:58.50 | ljp | but can oysters run processes? |
| 00:58.57 | Twiun | choui|stillbored: Here's a goody I'll include in wonka qtawt... settable frame min/max dimensions |
| 00:59.14 | Twiun | choui|stillbored: make me a wishlist ;-) |
| 00:59.38 | Xentac | Twiun: you are a wishlist |
| 00:59.41 | choui|stillbored | Twiun: native compiler |
| 00:59.54 | Twiun | choui|stillbored: to ROMize classes? |
| 00:59.59 | Twiun | choui|stillbored: already on there |
| 01:00.07 | Twiun | Xentac: thank ye |
| 01:00.13 | choui|stillbored | Twiun: no like gcj :) |
| 01:00.32 | Twiun | choui|stillbored: lol, use gcj then - and choke on their gtk awt ;-) |
| 01:00.42 | Twiun | choui|stillbored: this is qt/e through and through |
| 01:00.48 | choui|stillbored | Twiun: port qtwat to it then |
| 01:01.01 | Twiun | ibot: lart choui|stillbored |
| 01:01.16 | Twiun | choui|stillbored: I'm _trying_ to be serious here ;-) |
| 01:01.35 | choui|stillbored | Twiun: I'm serious :) |
| 01:02.33 | choui|stillbored | kergoth`zzz: WAKE UP |
| 01:03.05 | TheMasterMind1 | lol |
| 01:03.08 | TheMasterMind1 | ~lart kergoth`zzz |
| 01:03.27 | choui|stillbored | lol |
| 01:03.43 | ljp | teambuilder is wonderful |
| 01:03.46 | Twiun | choui|stillbored: getting GNU ClassPath compatibility is on the todo list... somewhere I'm sure |
| 01:03.58 | choui|stillbored | ljp: better than distcc? |
| 01:04.26 | ljp | dont know.. but it has pretty flashing things |
| 01:04.44 | ljp | probably not, as it is limited to 3 boxes for the personal one |
| 01:06.20 | choui|stillbored | hmmmm that blackcherry incense smell good |
| 01:06.47 | ljp | naa thats just me farting |
| 01:07.26 | choui|stillbored | ljp: no I use this incense because my cat is farting |
| 01:17.15 | Twiun | g'night guys |
| 01:35.33 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 01:35.43 | TheMasterMind1 | i want to write a simple gui frontend to rc |
| 01:35.49 | TheMasterMind1 | opie-remote is too complicated and tedious |
| 01:37.16 | TheMasterMind1 | TeaX: got time to/interested in writing a simple gui app to do remote control stuff? |
| 01:37.21 | TheMasterMind1 | ;) |
| 01:38.09 | ljp | they really didnt spend much time with the audio driver |
| 01:38.16 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 01:39.37 | ljp | but I am starting to at least understand whats going on |
| 01:39.45 | TheMasterMind1 | progress is good |
| 01:40.04 | ljp | only by looking at the other audio drivers and comparing them :) |
| 01:40.34 | ljp | look at the Ir class in qtopia |
| 01:40.46 | ljp | oh, nm.. thats too simple for your needs |
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| 02:46.43 | Nord4Sale | hi |
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| 03:47.28 | noda | Moo! |
| 03:50.23 | choui|stillbored | noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! |
| 03:50.49 | TheMasterMind1 | HANCOM WORD WORKS! |
| 03:50.49 | TheMasterMind1 | SANDMAN IS A GENIOUS |
| 04:04.45 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
| 04:13.26 | jmhodges | TheMasterMind1: ? |
| 04:13.29 | jmhodges | TheMasterMind1: how so my man? |
| 04:13.38 | TheMasterMind1 | jmhodges: how so what? |
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| 04:14.00 | jmhodges | TheMasterMind1: howd did sandman fix it? |
| 04:14.26 | TheMasterMind1 | oh, he added stuff to opie so we dont' need to copy libs over from sharp rom |
| 04:14.32 | jmhodges | mmm.. cool |
| 04:14.37 | TheMasterMind1 | and figured out what was causing it to bus error |
| 04:14.45 | TheMasterMind1 | a bug in the qte rectangle drawing thing |
| 04:14.58 | TheMasterMind1 | it caused bus errors when it was drawing the cursor- which is a rectange |
| 04:14.59 | TheMasterMind1 | le |
| 04:15.04 | jmhodges | aaaah very nice |
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| 04:35.23 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: you here? |
| 04:38.31 | TheMasterMind1 | err |
| 04:38.32 | TheMasterMind1 | ble |
| 04:38.33 | TheMasterMind1 | h |
| 04:38.35 | TheMasterMind1 | grr |
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| 04:39.58 | [PRiME] | how does Mame run on the Z? |
| 04:40.10 | TheMasterMind1 | no clue |
| 04:40.45 | [PRiME] | so tempting |
| 04:41.02 | [PRiME] | handheld mame |
| 04:47.08 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot botmail for tik that patch seems to think its malformed: patch: **** malformed patch at line 48: @@ -506,23 +511,22 @@ |
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| 05:27.30 | guised | [PRiME]: its decent |
| 05:28.07 | ||ugh | Question, has anyone running OZ been having problems with the clock loosing the time while the Z is 'slept'? |
| 05:28.39 | guised | ||ugh: go to the faq site and search for atd |
| 05:29.12 | guised | ibot faq |
| 05:29.14 | | from memory, faq is at http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/zaurus-faq/ or at http://www.handhelds.org/handhelds-faq/handhelds-faq.html or at http://adorphuye.com/zaurus/java/faq.jsp or at http://www.travellingkiwi.com/zarus/faq/faq.html or at http://www.openzaurus.org/ |
| 05:29.14 | ||ugh | Humm, ok (I know what atd does, but maybe it will be educational!). |
| 05:29.41 | guised | it'll tell ya how to fix it |
| 05:29.45 | guised | better than i can |
| 05:29.45 | guised | heh |
| 05:31.04 | ||ugh | Thanks but not good enough. We need to find out WHY atd is screwing up, then we can forget this and go on with real work. Thanks for the hint though that atd is screwing up. |
| 05:32.33 | guised | yep yep |
| 05:36.23 | tik | TheMasterMind1: oops. |
| 05:36.37 | tik | TheMasterMind1: I'll look into it... |
| 05:36.50 | ||ugh | Ah, thanks for that responce! It's good to see that the Z folks might not decend into the hell that the main stream Linux folks have gone done (low software quaility). Opieatd? Humm, to do grab OZ source. |
| 05:41.59 | tik | TheMasterMind1: funnily the patch seems to work here. Mail me your preferred diff optins and I'll send you the output ;) |
| 05:43.26 | noda | TheMasterMind1: ping |
| 05:44.53 | noda | Oh, found it, n/m :) |
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| 05:56.20 | tik | that cf code drives me crazy :) |
| 05:57.02 | tik | my z really ejects it's cf on every suspend, umounting and remounting during that. |
| 05:58.04 | tik | but as far as I understand the code from cs.c and ide.c it should recognize that itÄs the same cf as before and do nothinmg. ARGL! |
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| 09:07.20 | Piete | hi guys :) |
| 09:10.05 | Piete | ok guys, couple of questions : I updated to the latest unstable a couple of days ago. 1. I can't ssh into the Z anymore, 2. When I terminate Opie, and it asks for 'login:' and I enter root, and press enter, it says "Login Incorret" 3. Less important, but.. in the network setup app, I can set all the wireless options have disappeard.. :) |
| 09:10.42 | Piete | in the network setup app, all the wireless options have disappeard, even :) |
| 09:37.09 | Piete{afk} | if anyone knows the solution to some/all of the problems, just msg me with them :) thanks :) |
| 09:37.13 | Piete{afk} | I'm out |
| 11:03.01 | beattie | TheMasterMind1: you there? |
| 11:10.05 | beattie | oh well, I give up, somebody else can try to port kaffe |
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| 11:26.16 | Twiun | mornin' |
| 11:30.16 | beattie | hey |
| 11:31.00 | Twiun | just scrolled up - are you seriously giving up or just shelving it until the problem's resolved? |
| 11:31.31 | beattie | well since I don't see anybdoy working on the problem... |
| 11:31.45 | Twiun | ah yes |
| 11:32.44 | Twiun | is the configure script the only obstacle? |
| 11:34.42 | beattie | don't know, it is so basic, that it is difficult to do much about porting |
| 11:35.20 | Twiun | would it be possible to patch the makefiles configure generates? |
| 11:35.27 | Twiun | as an interim solution |
| 11:36.39 | beattie | probably, but most of the issues are with the build tools |
| 11:37.13 | Twiun | hmm, libtool and its ilk? |
| 11:37.23 | Twiun | can we do without libtool at all? |
| 11:37.31 | Twiun | as wonka doesn't use it at all |
| 11:38.03 | beattie | actually the makefiles are the first problem, doing with out libtools is a major rework |
| 11:39.30 | Twiun | kaffe's building is that convoluted? |
| 11:40.52 | beattie | autotools is that convoluted, dispensing with it would mean that we would diverge and we woudl be divergiung between releases |
| 11:42.15 | beattie | tracking kaffe would become difficult and time consuming |
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| 11:42.30 | Twiun | yeah |
| 11:42.51 | Twiun | This kind of porting should really be a minimal type of thing |
| 11:43.32 | Twiun | hmm |
| 11:43.55 | Twiun | or you could do a release freeze and let someone else take up the gauntlet |
| 11:44.02 | beattie | If you understand autotools it probably is |
| 11:44.43 | Twiun | the problem is finding someone who understands it |
| 11:44.43 | beattie | the problem is that somebody did something that screws up crosscompiling |
| 11:45.20 | Twiun | yeah - I had to use the skiffs to compile it when I had a look at it |
| 11:45.30 | beattie | and is willing to work on this problem |
| 11:46.06 | Twiun | that too |
| 11:46.56 | Twiun | tried posting for help on the ZZ forum? |
| 11:48.23 | beattie | no, I'm not familiar with that one |
| 11:50.32 | Twiun | zauruszone.com |
| 11:50.50 | Twiun | I imagine the OpenZaurus and/or the Qt devel forums would be appropriate |
| 11:51.15 | Twiun | the site's run by Jason and Ben |
| 11:52.47 | beattie | It get tiresome explaining over and over again that yes you have done the obvious |
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| 11:54.12 | Twiun | I know, I know... at least you're known by many of the posters there |
| 11:54.17 | Twiun | from being on here |
| 11:54.27 | Twiun | hey pb_ |
| 11:54.40 | pb_ | hi Twiun |
| 11:55.50 | johaBBa | with what distros of Linux have any of you had success syncing? |
| 11:56.24 | Twiun | last I tried, mdk8.2 and mdk9.0... don't sync anymore though - I'm not really using my Z as a pda ;-) |
| 11:57.52 | johaBBa | ditto...mostly it's a standalone puter...but i would like to use the pda functions |
| 11:58.03 | johaBBa | it's currenly a gba emulator |
| 11:58.18 | johaBBa | next week it'll be a webserver ;) |
| 11:58.24 | Twiun | mine's a jvm testbed... xcompile -> scp -> exec ;-) |
| 11:59.43 | johaBBa | sweet. |
| 12:23.02 | Piete | ok guys, couple of questions : I updated to the latest unstable a couple of days ago. 1. I can't ssh into the Z anymore, 2. When I terminate Opie, and it asks for 'login:' and I enter root, and press enter, it says "Login Incorret" |
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| 12:43.08 | Piete | ok, I'll just flash back to 3.0 then :) |
| 12:57.27 | mickeyl | Piete: unstable had severe problems until yesterday. |
| 12:59.37 | Piete | mickeyl: heh, I noticed ;) |
| 12:59.51 | Piete | it worked ok tho.. its just some annoyances |
| 13:01.04 | Piete | hrmmm, why is openzaurus.org so slow? |
| 13:01.20 | Twiun | maybe they've moved it to a Z? |
| 13:01.40 | Piete | lol |
| 13:02.52 | Piete | ok, I just need, zImage and initrd.bin, on a fat CF card, and what the key sequence to flash again? |
| 13:03.08 | nobse | Piete: CD |
| 13:03.23 | Piete | C D & reset, ok thanks :) |
| 13:05.28 | Piete | lol, damn that was a pain... |
| 13:08.39 | Piete | that would be nice.. just add some hydrogen, and your good for a week ;) |
| 13:14.26 | Piete | hmmm.. I had a lot of apps installed to CF and SD, but now they don't show up anymore... |
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| 13:14.34 | Piete | do I have to reinstall them? |
| 13:14.35 | Piete | :/ |
| 13:16.06 | mickeyl | Piete: either this, or you link all files manually into /opt/QtPalmtop/bin and /opt/QtPalmtop/apps/.... don't remember if ipkg has something like "relink all packages" |
| 13:17.03 | Piete | hmm. I hope so... |
| 13:17.08 | Piete | thanks :) |
| 13:17.12 | ibz | ipkg-link mount /mnt/{card|ram|cf} |
| 13:17.45 | Piete | thanks :D |
| 13:18.57 | Piete | worked like a charm, ty ;) |
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| 14:04.00 | Piete | Anyone could give me a rough estimated guess (heh) on when 3.1 might me released? |
| 14:06.56 | nobse | Piete: kergoth said, he will release 3.1-rc1 in a week |
| 14:07.49 | Piete | awesome :) |
| 14:07.52 | Piete | thanks :) |
| 14:08.23 | Piete | 3.0 feels very incomplete imho :) |
| 14:08.54 | nobse | Piete: I'm using 3.0, with a few packages from unstable, feels great. |
| 14:10.23 | Piete | yea, me too. I mean just plain vanilla 3.0 |
| 14:11.21 | nobse | I can't use my cf lan card with the pcmcia-cs from stable, but the card works with pcmcia-cs from unstable. |
| 14:12.09 | Piete | I guess 3.0 is a bit like the original Macos X :) |
| 14:12.23 | nobse | And updated a lot of opie stuff, addressbook, datebook, obex, backup, ... |
| 14:12.33 | nobse | Piete: never used macos :) |
| 14:29.10 | Twiun | hey ibz! |
| 14:30.48 | Piete | so the current unstable not broken? |
| 14:31.05 | Twiun | so says the title |
| 14:31.21 | Piete | I hope so :) |
| 14:34.49 | Piete | aww, the snowing stopped :/ |
| 14:45.00 | Piete | ibot feeds |
| 14:45.00 | | it has been said that feeds is listed at http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/IpkgFeeds or at http://zfi.zaurii.com/ |
| 14:45.10 | Piete | ibot oz unstable |
| 14:45.11 | | i don't know, Piete |
| 14:45.42 | Piete | ibot oz unstable is at http://openzaurus.org/feeds/unstable/ |
| 14:45.43 | | Piete: okay |
| 14:46.18 | ibz | hey Twiun |
| 14:48.29 | ibz | actually, unstable (or maybe it was just ipkg) seemed broken to me late last night |
| 14:49.56 | ibz | kept hanging...with or without the sync option to mount |
| 14:50.08 | ibz | and root kept running out of space. |
| 14:50.51 | ibz | had to flash back to stable, then install packages individually |
| 14:52.42 | Piete | aww man :/ |
| 14:52.55 | Piete | I'm 'upgrading' to unstable right now |
| 14:53.00 | Piete | bleah |
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| 14:54.17 | ibz | Piete: well you might be alright... |
| 14:54.48 | ibz | ;) or luckier than some other person who's Z died whilst upgrading to unstable... |
| 14:54.59 | ibz | oops, am speaking out aloud again... |
| 14:55.08 | ibz | has your upgrade finished yet ;) |
| 14:55.11 | ibz | ? |
| 14:55.27 | Piete | no, it seems stuck on upgrading libopie :O |
| 14:55.36 | Piete | but I can still ssh into etc |
| 14:55.40 | ibz | yep, that's what happened to me |
| 14:55.55 | Piete | at least I still have the ROM images on CF |
| 14:56.04 | ibz | hmmn...something screwed. |
| 14:56.21 | Piete | damnit |
| 14:56.32 | Piete | And I will not run Sharp ROM, it stinks |
| 14:56.45 | Piete | I like 3.0 prerelease the best ;) |
| 14:56.47 | ibz | Piete: use stable feed |
| 14:57.08 | Piete | ibz: you mean cancel the update? and.... |
| 14:57.08 | ibz | think it's different than the official 3.0 feed... |
| 14:57.30 | ibz | Piete: erm, i just reflashed, because it had already messed up my /. |
| 14:57.40 | ibz | best to start off clean. |
| 14:57.59 | Piete | ibz: damn, I hope I don't have to do that again,, I already reflased 3 times tonight |
| 15:00.12 | Piete | ergh |
| 15:00.16 | ibz | Piete: reflashing isn't that bad. just get used to it. |
| 15:00.19 | Piete | I think I'll have to do that agian...... |
| 15:00.32 | Piete | yea I know.. its just 3 minutes of my life gone every time ;) |
| 15:01.36 | Piete | al righty, reflashing.. ergh |
| 15:02.20 | Piete | ok, what should I update from unstable on 3.0 to make 3.0 more stable |
| 15:03.07 | ibz | 3.0 stable isn;t stable for you? |
| 15:03.25 | Piete | no |
| 15:03.31 | Piete | 3.0 has a lot of quirks |
| 15:03.46 | Piete | like launcher segfaulting opie |
| 15:03.54 | Piete | network setup not working correctly |
| 15:03.59 | Piete | stuff like that |
| 15:07.38 | ibz | network setup: what the nameserver bug? |
| 15:08.12 | ibz | launcher was segv opie, when you it asked me to forcibly close an application |
| 15:08.14 | Piete | basically ;) (I know I know, not big :) |
| 15:08.23 | Piete | I use /etc/resolv manualy anyway |
| 15:08.54 | Piete | ok, its done :) |
| 15:10.44 | ibz | what's done? |
| 15:10.52 | Piete | the flash |
| 15:11.01 | Piete | I'm back on vanilla 3.0 |
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| 15:11.55 | ibz | ok, use www.openzaurus.org/feeds/stable |
| 15:12.09 | ibz | or should i say, that's what i used., |
| 15:12.21 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: you here? |
| 15:12.22 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot seen tik |
| 15:12.23 | | tik is currently on #opie (1d 36m 51s) #openzaurus (1d 36m 51s). Has said a total of 12 messages. Is idling for 9h 14m 19s |
| 15:12.50 | ibz | TheMasterMind1: hi |
| 15:13.12 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot message for tik i can't figure out why the patch dies. try with diff -uNdr and email me the new collie_battery too. as for the CF thing where it ejects and inserts on suspend/resume, its been fixed with the new apm and libapm system. |
| 15:13.18 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot botmail for tik i can't figure out why the patch dies. try with diff -uNdr and email me the new collie_battery too. as for the CF thing where it ejects and inserts on suspend/resume, its been fixed with the new apm and libapm system. |
| 15:13.22 | TheMasterMind1 | ibz: sup |
| 15:13.53 | ibz | hmm, been laying low a while - managed to survive more redundancies at the company... |
| 15:14.02 | Piete | heya TMM1 :) |
| 15:14.05 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot message for beattie can you push any kaffe makefiles and stuff you have and i'l look into this configure thing |
| 15:14.09 | mrwoody | what is the last version of arm-linux-gcc available |
| 15:14.30 | TheMasterMind1 | Piete: sup |
| 15:14.33 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: 2.95.3 |
| 15:14.48 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: where to get it? |
| 15:16.03 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: what is the official website? |
| 15:16.21 | Twiun | TheMasterMind1: beattie sounded really frustrated |
| 15:19.20 | TheMasterMind1 | so i read |
| 15:19.27 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot oz toolchain |
| 15:19.27 | | well, oz toolchain is http://www.openzaurus.org/official/toolchain/, or mkdir /usr/local/arm and extract them in there. |
| 15:19.33 | TheMasterMind1 | get the 2.95 toolchain there |
| 15:19.48 | mrwoody | thanks |
| 15:24.01 | Piete | nite all |
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| 15:48.03 | *** topic/#openzaurus by TheMasterMind1 -> OpenZaurus project - http://www.openzaurus.org/ | opensource java for oz coming REAL soon | oz unstable feed updated : add it as your main feed, and run: ipkg update; ipkg install ipkg; mount -o remount,sync /; ipkg -verbose_wget upgrade | OPERA WORKS in OZ unstable | Unstable feed works again :) | TMM1 fixed lirc :) - could control TV from 10 feet away | HANCOM actually works now - next unstable release |
| 15:48.52 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:49.20 | TheMasterMind1 | sup |
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| 15:50.47 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: nothing need coffee |
| 15:51.45 | TeaX | TheMasterMind1: did you make lirc ipks? |
| 15:53.27 | TheMasterMind1 | nope sorry TeaX. you can grab the stuff from http://www.tjhsst.edu/~agupta/lirc-z/ though. just do insmod lirc_sir.o; mknod /dev/lirc c 61 0; then grab a lirc config from http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/ and put it in /etc/lircd.conf and then run lircd and use opie-remote :) |
| 15:54.16 | TeaX | TheMasterMind1: ok :) |
| 15:54.50 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm looking for someone to write a simple frontend for rc, since opie-remote is very confusing |
| 15:56.10 | TeaX | sorry i can't help you |
| 15:56.24 | TeaX | i'm working on another app |
| 16:12.51 | chouimat | ibot seen kergoth |
| 16:12.52 | | kergoth <~kergoth@oemx.digi.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #openzaurus, 1d 8h 47m 55s ago, saying: 'no problem'. |
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| 16:39.07 | AndyQ | join #zaurus |
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| 16:54.29 | mrwoody | shall i worry about errors like: ERROR: Package libapm1 wants to install file /usr/lib/libapm.so.1.0 |
| 16:54.41 | mrwoody | do i need to do force-overwrite? |
| 16:54.48 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 16:55.15 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: ipkg --force-overwrite update ? |
| 16:56.14 | TheMasterMind1 | yea try it |
| 16:56.59 | mrwoody | ok... now it is still running the one without the overwrite thing |
| 16:57.24 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: so you managed to get lirc work... congrats |
| 16:57.42 | TheMasterMind1 | thanks |
| 16:58.00 | mrwoody | how about opera... is there a package for that, or what? |
| 17:02.04 | TheMasterMind1 | you have to use operacreator, com[plex] is working on fixing it so it works with oz |
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| 17:02.15 | noda | Moo! |
| 17:02.37 | noda | TheMasterMind1: lirc only works a max of 6 feet from my TV :( |
| 17:02.48 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 17:02.51 | TheMasterMind1 | worked from 10 feet for me |
| 17:02.54 | TheMasterMind1 | *shrug* |
| 17:03.09 | noda | Maybe there's a way to give it more juice? :) |
| 17:03.17 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 17:03.20 | noda | Maybe your TV is more sensitive or something. |
| 17:03.42 | TheMasterMind1 | maybe |
| 17:03.51 | AndyQ | lo |
| 17:04.03 | TheMasterMind1 | hey |
| 17:04.34 | noda | Moo |
| 17:04.35 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: so the only way to get opera is to reinstall the sharp rom? |
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| 17:05.53 | AndyQ | anyone know if dillo has been ported to the zaurus? |
| 17:06.18 | noda | AndyQ: Well, I'd assume since it works on familiar it'd work on OZ. |
| 17:06.36 | noda | Of course, you'd have to have gtk, etc installed. |
| 17:06.50 | AndyQ | cool - I'm gonna download it and see if I can get it to build |
| 17:07.03 | AndyQ | and possibly port it over to QT (if its not too hard) |
| 17:07.08 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 17:07.15 | noda | I'll bet it'd be just as fast on the Z as it is on normal computers :) |
| 17:07.16 | TheMasterMind1 | i need someone to write a simple lirc frontend |
| 17:07.36 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: is lirc available anywhere and I may take a look |
| 17:07.39 | TheMasterMind1 | i need something that will system('rc LIST "" ""'); take that list of remotes and make a dropdown, then for each dropdown item do system('rc LIST <item> ""'); and it gives a list of commands for each one make a button with that name and when they're pressed it does system('rc SEND_ONCE <item> <buttonname>'); |
| 17:07.48 | AndyQ | as you can guess - I'm looking for a new project at the moment :) |
| 17:07.58 | TheMasterMind1 | make the rc/lirc frontend :) |
| 17:08.05 | noda | TheMasterMind1: You'd also have to have an interface to record commands (irrecord or whatever) |
| 17:08.13 | TheMasterMind1 | yea, that'd be nice too |
| 17:08.34 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: you can grab the stuff from http://www.tjhsst.edu/~agupta/lirc-z/ though. just do insmod lirc_sir.o; mknod /dev/lirc c 61 0; then grab a lirc config from http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/ and put it in /etc/lircd.conf and then run lircd and use opie-remote :) |
| 17:08.53 | TheMasterMind1 | use that rc stuff i said to see how it outputs out stuff and you can figure out how to make a good gui for it |
| 17:09.09 | AndyQ | k - I'll have a play |
| 17:10.36 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: probably the gui should also handle the insmodding and rmmoding since i think having that module loaded all the time will make obex and other stuff over ir not work. and you need to the mknod once every reboot so the gui can handle that too |
| 17:10.46 | TheMasterMind1 | whatever works best |
| 17:11.11 | noda | TheMasterMind1: Or you can mknod it in /boot/var/dev (or is it /boot/dev...) |
| 17:11.15 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 17:11.16 | noda | That should be part of oz-base, no? |
| 17:12.02 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: and take a look at opie-remote get some ideas. its really tedius with that right now since you have to map each rc command to a button manually, if you just have it automatically list the commands as buttons like i mentined i think it'll be better |
| 17:12.07 | TheMasterMind1 | noda: yea, should |
| 17:12.16 | AndyQ | k |
| 17:13.01 | noda | Oh, and if you by chance have a Toshiba CT-820 remote I can give you a lircd.conf with the most important buttons mapped |
| 17:13.24 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 17:13.32 | TheMasterMind1 | noda: send it in the to the lirc guys |
| 17:13.39 | noda | I'd send it but I didn't map half the buttons. |
| 17:13.41 | mrwoody | noda: i might need that :-) |
| 17:13.52 | noda | I was tired :P. |
| 17:14.04 | noda | I've got the numbers and channel up/down and volume up/down and power. |
| 17:14.04 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: where do I put the lirc stuff ? |
| 17:14.08 | noda | And mute :) |
| 17:14.13 | mrwoody | noda: ok i will ask that again within few days! :-) |
| 17:14.18 | noda | AndyQ: Wherever you want, symlink it to /usr/bin |
| 17:14.21 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: hmm, and most of the remote definitions have common names like CHUP and CHDOWN VOLUP VOLDOWN or some are VOL+ etc so you could search for those and the numbers and make those mapped already to some buttons |
| 17:14.40 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: lirc_sir.o goes in /lib/modules/2.<tab>/kernel/drivers/char |
| 17:14.42 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: and the .o file ? |
| 17:14.43 | TheMasterMind1 | then run depmod |
| 17:14.45 | AndyQ | hehe |
| 17:14.46 | TheMasterMind1 | put the binaries in /usr/bin |
| 17:16.10 | AndyQ | k, another unrelated problem, my Z's ftp server has stopped working, how do I restart it? |
| 17:16.48 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: restart opie? |
| 17:17.35 | AndyQ | nope - trying a reboot |
| 17:18.33 | TheMasterMind1 | use scp :) |
| 17:18.43 | noda | Yeah, ftp sucks :) |
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| 17:19.48 | AndyQ | hmmmm - ftp seems borked |
| 17:19.51 | AndyQ | scp will work |
| 17:20.04 | AndyQ | and indeed it does |
| 17:20.10 | noda | I think nobody ever uses it so it probably gets broken fairly easily since developers ignore it :) |
| 17:20.20 | AndyQ | heh but I use it :) |
| 17:20.29 | noda | Don't :P |
| 17:20.30 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: maybe security settings? |
| 17:21.07 | AndyQ | ahhh - probably |
| 17:21.17 | noda | I think I'm gonna get myself a new hard drive... 120GB WD 7200RPM, 8MB cache... |
| 17:21.47 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: Yup - that was it - Thx |
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| 17:26.46 | mrwoody | is it normal that afer an ipkg upgrade the space on the rom passes from 86->99%? |
| 17:26.58 | TheMasterMind1 | no |
| 17:27.08 | TheMasterMind1 | is the upgrade done? |
| 17:27.16 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: yes |
| 17:27.21 | TheMasterMind1 | restart opie |
| 17:27.24 | mrwoody | ok |
| 17:27.43 | mrwoody | tmp is free |
| 17:27.57 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 17:28.06 | mrwoody | bus error |
| 17:28.11 | TheMasterMind1 | ick |
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| 17:28.17 | mrwoody | ick? |
| 17:28.17 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: OK, installed lircd and stuff (depmod'd), run lircd which runs an is in ps list |
| 17:28.21 | TheMasterMind1 | that's bad |
| 17:28.25 | TheMasterMind1 | opie bus errored? |
| 17:28.25 | mrwoody | yes it is |
| 17:28.30 | mrwoody | yes |
| 17:28.40 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: then, do rc LIST "" "" and nothing happens, if I redo it again I get the message |
| 17:28.49 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: what message? |
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| 17:28.55 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: rc: could not connect to socket |
| 17:28.55 | AndyQ | rc: Connection refused |
| 17:28.55 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: did you install a lircd.conf ? |
| 17:29.03 | AndyQ | and lircd is no longer running |
| 17:29.08 | TheMasterMind1 | you need a lircd.conf |
| 17:29.08 | AndyQ | yup - downloaded one |
| 17:29.12 | TheMasterMind1 | and make sure you mknod ? |
| 17:29.14 | AndyQ | its in /etc |
| 17:29.17 | AndyQ | mknod? |
| 17:29.20 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 17:29.27 | TheMasterMind1 | mknod /dev/lirc c 61 0 |
| 17:29.30 | TheMasterMind1 | do that before starting lircd |
| 17:29.33 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: actually i have run ipkg upgrade again and it is reinstalling libopie.. i hope it is for that reason... |
| 17:29.40 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: anyway where were the files if not in /tmp? |
| 17:29.48 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: did you install more stuff to / after installing oz |
| 17:29.56 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: how do I mknod? |
| 17:30.00 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: nope, only cd |
| 17:30.04 | mrwoody | s/cd/cf |
| 17:30.08 | TheMasterMind1 | i think the problem is that libqte or whatever is like 3 megs and if you don't have that much space it can't upgrade and kills opie |
| 17:30.17 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: mknod /dev/lirc c 61 0 |
| 17:30.24 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: but where does it go... |
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| 17:31.07 | AndyQ | aha - success |
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| 17:31.40 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: jffs2 does some weird stuff with it, stores it somewhere and then as soon as that file isn't being used anymore it overwrites it |
| 17:31.48 | TheMasterMind1 | so you have to exit opie and restart |
| 17:32.05 | mrwoody | i see |
| 17:32.14 | mrwoody | now it is reinstalling qt-embedded |
| 17:32.20 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 17:33.05 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: is it normal that it is downloading that from your feed? |
| 17:33.17 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: is there any diff now from oz feed and yours? |
| 17:33.26 | TheMasterMind1 | yea, lots |
| 17:33.31 | TheMasterMind1 | mine has new opie stuff |
| 17:33.52 | AndyQ | ooooo - TheMasterMind1, wheres your feed? |
| 17:34.03 | TheMasterMind1 | www.tjhsst.edu/~agupta/unstable |
| 17:34.10 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: what about stuff like qt-embeded? is it more updated? |
| 17:34.40 | TheMasterMind1 | should be. i'll be updating it today with stuff that works with opera/hancom and add a lirc package |
| 17:34.50 | TheMasterMind1 | and if mplayer's cvs server comes back there'll be xmms-e stuff |
| 17:34.58 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: did you get keys working with mplayer? |
| 17:35.07 | TheMasterMind1 | haven't gotten to test it yet |
| 17:35.13 | TheMasterMind1 | since the stupid server is down |
| 17:35.21 | AndyQ | hehe |
| 17:35.26 | mrwoody | what server is down? |
| 17:36.05 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: OK, you get to name the lirc frontend - what would you like to call it? |
| 17:36.09 | Dilb | hi |
| 17:36.17 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: eh.. |
| 17:36.19 | TheMasterMind1 | um.. |
| 17:37.17 | TheMasterMind1 | zRemote ? |
| 17:37.17 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 17:37.27 | AndyQ | k - you've got it |
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| 17:44.49 | pb_ | TheMasterMind1: any progress with ipkg recently? |
| 17:45.09 | TheMasterMind1 | pb_: nope, sorry |
| 17:45.23 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm working on it |
| 17:49.24 | mrwoody | was locate ported on the z? |
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| 17:53.14 | ibz | mrwoody: wants wrong with find / -name foo? |
| 17:53.40 | mrwoody | ibz: slower! :-) |
| 17:53.55 | mrwoody | shit opie is not starting anymore |
| 17:54.00 | mrwoody | after an ipkg upgrade |
| 17:54.08 | mrwoody | without any error |
| 17:54.54 | ibz | mrwoody: not that *much* slower, filesystems aren't that large. |
| 17:55.52 | ibz | oh yeah, and there's an faq entry regarding your question about reflashing sharp for the commercial apps. |
| 17:56.11 | mrwoody | ibz: license problems? |
| 17:57.04 | ibz | mrwoody: there are some yes. but it also tells you how to do it ;) |
| 17:57.21 | ibz | i.e for oz, without reflashing. |
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| 17:57.35 | ibz | if you have a linux box...debian woody? |
| 17:57.37 | mrwoody | ibz: i didn't ask how to do it ... i just wanted to know why there are no packages for oz! :-) |
| 17:57.46 | mrwoody | ibz: oh, ok... i didn't know that |
| 17:57.50 | mrwoody | debian sid |
| 17:58.01 | ibz | ok mrsid |
| 17:58.12 | mrwoody | :-) |
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| 18:42.29 | beattie | ibot seen TheMasterMind1 |
| 18:42.31 | | themastermind1 is currently on #opie (22h 23m 35s) #uclibc (22h 23m 35s) #zaurus (22h 23m 35s) #handhelds.org (22h 23m 35s) #openzaurus (22h 23m 35s). Has said a total of 687 messages. Is idling for 59s |
| 18:46.16 | TheMasterMind1 | ? |
| 18:46.52 | TheMasterMind1 | beattie: kaffe's in the buildroot already right/ what do i have to change to make it build with qte? configure options? |
| 18:48.27 | smee|h | anyone tell me how to resize a QDialog when hiding some widgets inside QVBoxLayouts? the dialog wont get smaller until I move the dialog around on the screen...thanks |
| 18:50.03 | beattie | well, the Kaffe that is in build root, is 1.0.7 a released version, it should have been possible to build awt-qt to link with it, but there were problmes with libtools, the current kaffe cvs contains awt-qt integrated, but the autotools stuff does not seem to be able to build a makefile for cross compiling, I have given up on it for now |
| 18:50.40 | TheMasterMind1 | ok, do you a makefile that gets the new autotools sources ? |
| 18:50.43 | TheMasterMind1 | i'll see if i can get it to build |
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| 18:52.25 | beattie | be my guest, I'l go back to being a simple kernel hacker |
| 18:52.36 | TheMasterMind1 | :) |
| 18:53.31 | beattie | I only have to remember that FSF is the author of Emacs to see the love of the Baroque |
| 18:57.05 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: sup |
| 18:57.20 | tik | TheMasterMind1: sup? |
| 18:57.24 | TheMasterMind1 | not much |
| 18:57.28 | TheMasterMind1 | get my botmail? |
| 18:58.35 | tik | TheMasterMind1: *g* I do not know about botmail ;) Anyway, if that suspen/resume issue is really fixed that's a real arguement for oz! The original sharp-2.38 rom also ejects... |
| 19:00.15 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: yep, we noticed it got fixed with the new libapm |
| 19:01.11 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: any idea what patch returns when it fails? |
| 19:01.52 | mark_ | hmm, how do I rip apart an ipk in the feed now? are they ar's or tars? |
| 19:01.52 | TheMasterMind1 | nm, figured it out |
| 19:01.57 | mark_ | dont worry |
| 19:01.59 | TheMasterMind1 | ar |
| 19:02.23 | tik | TheMasterMind1: $? ne 0 :) |
| 19:02.32 | TheMasterMind1 | yea but i don't want that |
| 19:02.50 | TheMasterMind1 | i wanted to make sure an error code 256 was only for already applied patch |
| 19:02.55 | TheMasterMind1 | don't want to let failed patches get by |
| 19:02.57 | TheMasterMind1 | but already applied is fine |
| 19:03.42 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: still here? |
| 19:03.52 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: yup |
| 19:03.58 | tik | TheMasterMind1: hmm, is the new collie_battery.c also good for you? I've not got an unpatched one here ;). |
| 19:04.07 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: almost got an early beta of zremote working |
| 19:04.08 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: i realized, instead of using rc you could just interface directly with /dev/lircd which is a fifo or socket or somesuch. that's basically what rc does |
| 19:04.24 | AndyQ | hehe - rc is working fine :) |
| 19:04.35 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: eh? your patch applied to a collie_battery that's been patched with your old patch right? |
| 19:05.23 | mrsid | TheMasterMind1: after ipkg upgrade, opie is not starting anymore... |
| 19:05.33 | TheMasterMind1 | mrsid: upgrade from where? |
| 19:05.34 | tik | You're right. hmm. ok, that's a way. Stupid me. |
| 19:05.53 | mrsid | TheMasterMind1: well it downloaded stuff from both oz/unstable and your feed |
| 19:05.54 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: i don't care either way, a single patch works |
| 19:05.59 | tik | oops. wrong place... |
| 19:06.04 | mrsid | TheMasterMind1: might it depend from it? |
| 19:06.11 | TheMasterMind1 | mrsid: probably not a good thing. try only using one of them |
| 19:06.31 | mrsid | TheMasterMind1: which one would you suggest? |
| 19:06.32 | tik | TheMasterMind1: OK, then I'll send you an already patched version, then you can decide wether you make two or one patch from it. |
| 19:07.11 | TheMasterMind1 | mrsid: my feed works well |
| 19:07.26 | mrsid | TheMasterMind1: so you suggest to take off the oz one? |
| 19:08.24 | TheMasterMind1 | yes |
| 19:08.29 | TheMasterMind1 | then ipkg update; ipkg upgrade |
| 19:10.14 | mrsid | TheMasterMind1: well everything seems to be up to date |
| 19:10.24 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 19:10.28 | TheMasterMind1 | try maye removing opie-base and reinstalling |
| 19:10.31 | TheMasterMind1 | or libopie |
| 19:10.59 | mrsid | TheMasterMind1: I have already tried with libopie... lemme try with opie-base |
| 19:12.08 | mrsid | TheMasterMind1: actually i get this with ipkg upgrade (in your feed): |
| 19:12.10 | mrsid | Not downgrading package oz-base on root from unstable-14t to 2.1-1. |
| 19:12.47 | mrsid | TheMasterMind1: is that normal? |
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| 19:15.16 | noda | Moo! |
| 19:15.35 | noda | Dammit, kergoth hasn't been here for a while :P |
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| 19:17.28 | mrsid | shit... not it stuck at enter runlevel: |
| 19:18.28 | mrsid | what should i write there? |
| 19:19.44 | mrsid | TheMasterMind1: i need to reflash everything i think |
| 19:20.51 | AndyQ | noda: he's probably 'getting' a life :) |
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| 19:22.49 | ljp | maybe he has a g-friend! |
| 19:23.12 | ljp | kergoth is cheating on us! |
| 19:23.22 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 19:23.27 | TheMasterMind1 | argh! |
| 19:23.29 | TheMasterMind1 | i don't get this |
| 19:23.37 | TheMasterMind1 | why is it complaining about not finding nonweak |
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| 19:29.52 | TeaX | mrsid: did you installed qt-embedded from tmm1 feed? |
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| 19:41.06 | mickeyl | TheMasterMind1: there have been a bunch of new patches to qt-embedded which you must apply and build qt/e new |
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| 19:49.22 | Onyx4 | hey I just noticed that libqte now depends on libpng3 |
| 19:51.05 | Onyx4 | ok seems like we're already providing libpng3 |
| 19:51.09 | Onyx4 | so that seems ok |
| 19:52.11 | Onyx4 | but it's not by default in the image |
| 19:52.37 | Onyx4 | I wonder if libqte needs it |
| 20:01.02 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: do you fancy testing a beta zremote? |
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| 20:02.03 | AndyQ | ibot seen TheMasterMind1 |
| 20:02.04 | | themastermind1 is currently on #opie (23h 43m 8s) #uclibc (23h 43m 8s) #zaurus (23h 43m 8s) #handhelds.org (23h 43m 8s) #openzaurus (23h 43m 8s). Has said a total of 775 messages. Is idling for 15m 33s |
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| 20:10.51 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: send it over |
| 20:10.58 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: DCC OK? |
| 20:11.05 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: yes it definitely needs it |
| 20:11.06 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: yep |
| 20:12.05 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 20:13.00 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: shall I resend? |
| 20:13.07 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: try it |
| 20:13.09 | Onyx4 | mmm so we should change libpng to Y in the defconfigs then |
| 20:13.16 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: yea |
| 20:13.36 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: OK, its on offer |
| 20:13.51 | TheMasterMind1 | nopie aint working |
| 20:13.55 | TheMasterMind1 | put it on your webserver |
| 20:14.01 | AndyQ | k |
| 20:14.30 | AndyQ | http://andyq.myby.co.uk/downloads/zremote |
| 20:15.15 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: hmm, i see no could and not such |
| 20:15.28 | AndyQ | hmm? |
| 20:16.05 | smbj | hmmmmmmmmm |
| 20:16.14 | smbj | ibot xcompile |
| 20:16.19 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: Not sure what you meant |
| 20:16.32 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: the dropdown has could and No |
| 20:16.40 | TheMasterMind1 | and the big thing has not and such |
| 20:17.10 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: what's the record button do? |
| 20:17.17 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: Nothing yet :) |
| 20:17.33 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: It will hopefully record a signal and assign it to something |
| 20:17.58 | Onyx4 | qt_override.cpp: In function `const char * Opie::binaryName()': |
| 20:17.58 | Onyx4 | qt_override.cpp:57: `PATH_MAX' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 20:17.58 | Onyx4 | qt_override.cpp:57: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once |
| 20:17.58 | Onyx4 | qt_override.cpp:57: for each function it appears in.) |
| 20:17.58 | Onyx4 | qt_override.cpp:58: `dst' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 20:18.01 | Onyx4 | make[4]: *** [qt_override.o] Error 1 |
| 20:18.03 | Onyx4 | make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/clambert/oz/buildroot/build/opie/library' |
| 20:18.04 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: On mine, I have the name of the remote in the dropdown, and a list of commands in the list |
| 20:18.05 | Onyx4 | mmm opie doesn't compile |
| 20:18.14 | Onyx4 | I've seen this problem before with PATH_MAX |
| 20:18.20 | Onyx4 | AndyQ had the same issue |
| 20:18.21 | Onyx4 | with aqpkg |
| 20:18.43 | AndyQ | Onyx4: you need a sys/....h include |
| 20:18.53 | AndyQ | Onyx4: I'll take a look and let you know what it should be |
| 20:19.27 | AndyQ | Onyx4: not sys/ but linux/limits.h |
| 20:19.52 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: Do you have a list of commands in the list box for the remote? |
| 20:20.10 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: edit qt_overwrite.cpp and do sys/param.h |
| 20:20.11 | TheMasterMind1 | include it |
| 20:20.29 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: yea i think the problem is i don't have any remotes and its causing problems |
| 20:20.37 | TheMasterMind1 | actually |
| 20:20.38 | TheMasterMind1 | i do have remotes |
| 20:20.39 | TheMasterMind1 | wtf |
| 20:20.54 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: hehe - its pretty basic - no error checking and it doesn't do the insmod stuff yet |
| 20:21.12 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: it currently assumes that lircd is setup and running |
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| 20:21.39 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: yea, you just need more sanity checking |
| 20:22.11 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: Thats the last thing I do usually - get the thing working then tidy it up, add proper error checking etc |
| 20:22.13 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: what's the record button do? anything right now? |
| 20:22.18 | TheMasterMind1 | ah nm |
| 20:22.19 | TheMasterMind1 | read above |
| 20:22.22 | hardwire | enough people here :) |
| 20:22.24 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: yep, thats usually the best way |
| 20:22.28 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: lemme go check with my Tv |
| 20:22.32 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: k |
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| 20:25.30 | Onyx4 | AndyQ: thanks that fixed it |
| 20:25.35 | AndyQ | Onyx4: np |
| 20:25.55 | Onyx4 | so who will fix that in cvs? |
| 20:26.12 | AndyQ | Onyx4: pass it to ljp I guess |
| 20:27.08 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: it works |
| 20:27.24 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: really nice, it is a bit awkward to use but i dunno how we can make it better.. |
| 20:27.40 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: Any suggestions gratefully received :) |
| 20:27.55 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: How do I record? irrecord <with what>? |
| 20:28.35 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: recording is a pain. i don't think you make a gui too easily. you have to make sure lircd isn't running. then run irrecord filename. then it asks you stuff, you have to basically point your remote at the thing and do what it tells you |
| 20:28.43 | TheMasterMind1 | i don't think we even need a gui for it |
| 20:28.51 | AndyQ | Hmmm, OK, I'll remove the button then |
| 20:29.11 | AndyQ | Also, I guess you'll want it in the feed somehow/somewhere? |
| 20:29.15 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: yea, maybe we should just make it when you click on the name it sends the signal instead of pressing send |
| 20:29.27 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: Thats easy |
| 20:30.20 | Onyx4 | ok I updated libpng3 to y for all |
| 20:30.28 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: what about.. hmm. you could like have buttons at the bottom or in another tab with the stuff thats there in almost all configurations, like have channel number and volupdown and chupdown and if you find those definitions in the file like CHUP or CH+ you make that button do that automatically or else make it disabled |
| 20:30.32 | TheMasterMind1 | probably too complicated |
| 20:30.41 | TheMasterMind1 | its up to you really works fine |
| 20:31.23 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: Thats possible, but if the name differes for some reason - i.e. VolumeUP, VolumeUp, Vol_Up, etc it wouldn't work |
| 20:31.38 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: But I guess it could set up to be customized |
| 20:31.56 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: yea that's the problem, the names could be anything |
| 20:32.07 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: but you could search for the most commonly used names |
| 20:32.13 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: I guess |
| 20:32.19 | TheMasterMind1 | up to you :) |
| 20:32.28 | TheMasterMind1 | probably not worth the extra work |
| 20:32.57 | AndyQ | hehe - I'm lazy :) |
| 20:33.11 | TheMasterMind1 | heh, screw it then |
| 20:33.17 | TheMasterMind1 | let people use it they'll give you more good suggestions |
| 20:33.33 | AndyQ | yup |
| 20:33.46 | AndyQ | Anyway, once I've tidied it up a bit, where should it go? |
| 20:33.54 | AndyQ | Opie/BK/etc? |
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| 20:34.07 | TheMasterMind1 | hm, good question. make a targz of the source somewhere? or just send to me and i'll add it to our bk tree |
| 20:34.27 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: I'll send you a zip of the source and pro w |
| 20:34.32 | TheMasterMind1 | sounds good |
| 20:34.59 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: i had to reflash... now i am trying again. So shall i use your feed, and completely discard oz unstable? |
| 20:35.58 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: yea, oz unstable is older |
| 20:36.08 | TheMasterMind1 | you can wait for me to udpate my feed |
| 20:36.15 | TheMasterMind1 | *shrug* up to you |
| 20:36.24 | mrwoody | when would you do it? |
| 20:36.35 | mrwoody | consider that now i am using a very old image |
| 20:36.41 | TheMasterMind1 | how old |
| 20:36.59 | mrwoody | it is the original oz3 |
| 20:36.59 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: OK, new version available with single clicking |
| 20:37.04 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: great |
| 20:37.58 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: well since all the apps before the reflashing were in my cf card, is there a way to recover them , or do i need to reinstall one by one again? |
| 20:39.32 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: ipkg-link mount /mnt/cf |
| 20:39.55 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: now i am doing ipkg update from the oz3 directly... i will let you know if there is any problem in doing that |
| 20:40.08 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: that one would recreate all the links? |
| 20:40.25 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: yes |
| 20:40.41 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: have you flashed OZ 3.1pre lately? |
| 20:40.52 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: yea an image i built a couple of days ago |
| 20:40.58 | Onyx4 | how did it go |
| 20:40.59 | TheMasterMind1 | not since this new qte stuff though |
| 20:41.03 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: it was fine |
| 20:41.14 | Onyx4 | well the qte snapshot source has not changed |
| 20:41.21 | Onyx4 | I think it's just the opie relation to qte maybe |
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| 20:41.41 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: heh, LOTS has changed |
| 20:41.46 | TheMasterMind1 | we have a load of new patches to qte |
| 20:41.52 | TheMasterMind1 | opie does anyway |
| 20:41.54 | SillyZ | Quadgie: fbvncserver on oz3 .. how do ya reset calibration for vnc ?? |
| 20:42.00 | Onyx4 | I see |
| 20:42.11 | Onyx4 | ok I think I'll give that a try if everything builds fine |
| 20:42.12 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: i'm building stuff, going to test it out |
| 20:42.21 | Onyx4 | I need to move my /opt to SD, so I want to reflash anyway |
| 20:42.22 | TheMasterMind1 | xmms-e is building.. |
| 20:42.33 | Onyx4 | did the CF eject on resume went away? |
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| 20:42.43 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: yes, with the new apm stuff |
| 20:42.48 | TheMasterMind1 | it exists no more |
| 20:42.51 | Onyx4 | cool I'll close the bug in SF |
| 20:43.00 | cranchy_ | whats up guys |
| 20:43.40 | Onyx4 | maybe it will solve also the suspend in craddle hang, etc |
| 20:43.50 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: hm, good thinking, it might |
| 20:44.24 | mrwoody | Onyx4: what hangs? the zaurus or the desktop? |
| 20:44.27 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: Whats the new qte stuff? |
| 20:44.36 | TheMasterMind1 | its basically a replacement for libpreload |
| 20:44.44 | TheMasterMind1 | and some fixes to qte |
| 20:44.54 | TheMasterMind1 | it lets us use hancom/opera stuff in oz/opie |
| 20:44.57 | AndyQ | is it in your feed? |
| 20:44.59 | Onyx4 | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=631109&group_id=43045&atid=434956 |
| 20:45.00 | Onyx4 | that one |
| 20:45.06 | TheMasterMind1 | and fixes some bugs with the qte that were preventling prelinking |
| 20:45.09 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: nah, its part of opie |
| 20:45.42 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: i meant would I get it if I used your feed to upgrade? |
| 20:47.41 | TheMasterMind1 | ok, my feed is now updated |
| 20:47.51 | Onyx4 | make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/clambert/oz/buildroot/build/opie/noncore/settings/language' |
| 20:47.51 | Onyx4 | cd core/launcher; /home/clambert/oz/buildroot/build/opie/qmake/qmake -o Makefile `cat /home/clambert/oz/buildroot/build/opie/packages | grep " \`echo core/launcher/Makefile|sed -e 's,/Makefile$,,'\` " | head -1 | awk '{print $3}'` |
| 20:47.51 | Onyx4 | make[3]: *** No rule to make target `core/launcher/libpreload/Makefile', needed by `core/launcher/libpreload'. Stop. |
| 20:47.52 | Onyx4 | what's that? |
| 20:48.02 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: cvs up, just got fixed |
| 20:48.06 | Onyx4 | k |
| 20:49.16 | mrwoody | opie-advancedfm_0.9. 100% |*****************************| 2 --:-- ETA |
| 20:49.16 | mrwoody | ipkg: invalid magic |
| 20:49.20 | mrwoody | what is this? |
| 20:50.19 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: something bad. |
| 20:50.27 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: hmm, try again |
| 20:50.33 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: always the same |
| 20:50.44 | TheMasterMind1 | with only that pkg or what? |
| 20:50.48 | cranch | is there any way to print to a cups/samba printer from the Z? |
| 20:50.49 | mrwoody | also: ncurses-base_5.3.200 90% |************************** | 7680 - stalled - |
| 20:50.57 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: yes only with that pkg |
| 20:51.02 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: ipkg update |
| 20:51.10 | TheMasterMind1 | i just updated the feed |
| 20:51.15 | mrwoody | and also the stalled thing... always with that package always with the same 90% |
| 20:51.17 | mrwoody | ok |
| 20:52.03 | mrwoody | what did you change in the feed? |
| 20:52.15 | TheMasterMind1 | everything |
| 20:52.21 | mrwoody | just now? |
| 20:52.26 | TheMasterMind1 | all of opie anyway |
| 20:52.28 | TheMasterMind1 | yea just now |
| 20:52.42 | mrwoody | yes actually now it is starting again from aqpmg |
| 20:52.49 | mrwoody | aqpkg |
| 20:53.11 | mrwoody | i'll let you know |
| 21:01.27 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: so does xmms-e work now with mplayer and mp3/ogg? |
| 21:02.47 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: can you dcc me opera and hancom ipks? |
| 21:03.33 | TheMasterMind1 | xmms-e isn't running |
| 21:03.36 | TheMasterMind1 | something's messed up |
| 21:03.40 | TheMasterMind1 | its trying to allocate 500megs of ram |
| 21:04.01 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: You've installed it to mtdram or somewhere other than root haven't you :) |
| 21:04.27 | TheMasterMind1 | yes. |
| 21:04.32 | TheMasterMind1 | is that what's causing it? |
| 21:04.46 | AndyQ | you need to look at ~root/.xmms link (where its pointing to) |
| 21:05.04 | TheMasterMind1 | huh? |
| 21:05.09 | AndyQ | remove the link, create a directory .xmms in /root and copy the files from /mnt/xxxx/.xmms to /root/.xmms |
| 21:05.47 | AndyQ | basically it doesn't work if your .xms directory is a link |
| 21:05.55 | TheMasterMind1 | why though |
| 21:05.58 | TheMasterMind1 | any idea? |
| 21:06.08 | AndyQ | not a clue - its on the xmms/e website as a workaround |
| 21:06.14 | TheMasterMind1 | nah, its doing the same thing if i install to root |
| 21:06.32 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: Possibly because its still there as a link? |
| 21:06.51 | TheMasterMind1 | nope, its a real dir |
| 21:06.57 | AndyQ | hmm v strange |
| 21:12.58 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: now it hangs at installing maintainer scripts of libopie |
| 21:13.16 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm its not hanging, its just stupid jffs2 |
| 21:13.18 | TheMasterMind1 | grr |
| 21:13.20 | TheMasterMind1 | i hate this old kernel |
| 21:13.38 | mrwoody | i hate it too! :-) |
| 21:13.43 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: would it be possible to just upgrade to a new jffs or do you have to upgrade the kernel as well? |
| 21:13.54 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: i am trying again... |
| 21:14.06 | mrwoody | AndyQ: i think that you need to upgrade kernel |
| 21:14.25 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: what are the news about a new kernel? is anyone working on it? |
| 21:14.30 | AndyQ | well thats just crap then |
| 21:14.38 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: not really |
| 21:14.50 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: its part of the kernel |
| 21:15.01 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: now it is "extracting data files to /" |
| 21:15.08 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 21:15.17 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: how long do i need to wait before interrupting it |
| 21:15.23 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: Yeah I know, but couldn't you just change that module (I may be talking crap as I know little about the kernel) |
| 21:16.19 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: still there... is that normal? |
| 21:16.24 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 21:16.38 | mrwoody | i don't even know what is really going on |
| 21:16.42 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: yea, its fine. sometimes it just starts lagging |
| 21:16.56 | mrwoody | but it has been at least 2 mins |
| 21:17.15 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: shall i continue to wait? |
| 21:17.20 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: yep |
| 21:17.20 | AndyQ | mrwoody: it can take 15/20 minutes sometimes! |
| 21:17.30 | mrwoody | AndyQ: really? |
| 21:17.36 | mrwoody | depending on?> |
| 21:17.44 | mrwoody | what if i reboot? woult it help? |
| 21:17.50 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: if we knew what caused it, we could fix it :) |
| 21:17.55 | AndyQ | atmospheric conditions, cosmic radiation , that sort of thing |
| 21:17.57 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: you can ctrl c out of it and restart |
| 21:18.00 | TheMasterMind1 | not restart |
| 21:18.03 | TheMasterMind1 | just re ipkg upgrade |
| 21:18.21 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: we'll probably start moving to the 2.4.7 kernel :) |
| 21:18.34 | TheMasterMind1 | that has jffs2 from 2.4.19 that kergoth backported |
| 21:18.46 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: what are the diffs within 4.6 and 4.7? |
| 21:18.58 | AndyQ | I find it best to upgrade oz-base, then reboot, opie-base/qte then restart opie and then upgrade packages 5 at a time |
| 21:19.12 | mrwoody | and what is the real problem with 2.4.20 |
| 21:19.25 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: nothing, just a newer jffs2 from .19 has been ported to .7 |
| 21:19.31 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: any reason we could't add the backport jffs to the current kernel? |
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| 21:19.45 | kruskal | hi |
| 21:19.48 | TheMasterMind1 | it'd be more work, and useless since that time woudl be better spent working on .20 |
| 21:20.09 | TheMasterMind1 | the only thing lacking in .7 right now is irda support |
| 21:20.09 | AndyQ | hmmmmmmm |
| 21:20.20 | TheMasterMind1 | so we have a choice. work on .7 to provide irda or work on .20 |
| 21:20.21 | TheMasterMind1 | same problem |
| 21:20.35 | TheMasterMind1 | or just be lazy and wait for sharp to send us the .18 sources for the 5600 |
| 21:20.35 | mrwoody | i see |
| 21:20.48 | TheMasterMind1 | you notice which one we picked :) |
| 21:20.50 | mrwoody | would that work on 5500? |
| 21:20.52 | kruskal | what are the others PDA for whitch OZ will be ported ? |
| 21:20.54 | mrwoody | :-) |
| 21:20.58 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: mmm knights doesn't build anymore, it looks like it doesn't find QTDIR env |
| 21:20.59 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: yea, with minimal tweaking it should |
| 21:21.05 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: hmm. |
| 21:21.12 | TheMasterMind1 | i have so many freaking patches here |
| 21:21.12 | AndyQ | I bet you picked the wait for .18 sources :) |
| 21:21.13 | TheMasterMind1 | i need to push |
| 21:21.18 | Onyx4 | it doesn't add the -L$QTDIR/lib |
| 21:21.41 | chouimat | kruskal: just send me the PDA you want OZ to run on and I will do the port for you |
| 21:21.48 | Onyx4 | I think that's since kergoth started changing stuff |
| 21:21.56 | kruskal | chouimat: ok thanks ;) |
| 21:22.03 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: yea, he made the exports nonglobal, so you have to do it manually in each makefile |
| 21:22.08 | TheMasterMind1 | since it was brekaing a lot of builds |
| 21:22.28 | mrwoody | chouimat: oregon scientific, pls |
| 21:22.40 | chouimat | mrwoody: what that? |
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| 21:23.12 | chouimat | hi hardwire, ok is you ps2 hacking? |
| 21:23.19 | chouimat | s/ok/how |
| 21:23.20 | kruskal | oregon doesn't make real PDA, it's products sux |
| 21:23.32 | mrwoody | chouimat: they gave me that for free for an american express that i used to have... it was not that bad at that time, but they didn't write any software and they didn't release the compiler |
| 21:23.40 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: so did you already fix that and didn't push it or I need to do it? |
| 21:24.22 | kruskal | chouimat: do you think OZ will run on a Atari Portfolio ? (intel 8088, 128 Ko ram) |
| 21:25.18 | hardwire | chouimat: haven't touched it in a while.. too busy |
| 21:25.40 | chouimat | kruskal: no |
| 21:26.01 | chouimat | mrwoody: this one? http://www2.oregonscientific.com/streamline/pda183.html |
| 21:26.45 | mrwoody | chouimat: nope... |
| 21:26.50 | mrwoody | chouimat: let me look for it |
| 21:27.04 | kruskal | chouimat: :( (I did not really hope, this pda sux) |
| 21:28.21 | lsmith | TheMasterMind1: have there been any updates since friday? |
| 21:28.30 | lsmith | i got to test your feed over the weekend |
| 21:28.52 | lsmith | shell is pretty broken .. but you probably found that out yourself? |
| 21:29.58 | mrwoody | chouimat: this one http://www.computingreview.com/pscHandheld,PCs-PDAs/Handheld,Other/Oregon,Scientific,OSPRO,2MB/PRD_32164_2531crx.aspx |
| 21:30.12 | chouimat | is kergoth`zzz still alive or his get wacked outside the strip club? |
| 21:30.23 | mrwoody | chouimat: btw compatible with palm just mean that it was possible to beam... but not using software |
| 21:36.06 | Onyx4 | mmm ftp.trolltech.com gives connection refused |
| 21:39.12 | Onyx4 | k it 's fixed now |
| 21:39.26 | Onyx4 | i found the problem why knigts was not building correctly |
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| 21:39.37 | Onyx4 | I'm gonna push the changes |
| 21:40.41 | Onyx4 | so what is not global anymore? |
| 21:40.47 | Onyx4 | nothing? |
| 21:42.03 | ||ugh | What on earth are you folks doing going from 2.4.6 to 2.4.7 rather then 2.4.20? The only reason I can think of is that thats what the next RZ runs, still dumb (of them if thats the case). |
| 21:43.52 | lsmith | ||ugh: well such a choice is not trivial on an embedded system |
| 21:44.51 | ||ugh | I have been reading the thread, I see the 5600 is running 2.4.18, which tells us when they had to freeze. |
| 21:46.07 | ||ugh | I have done embeded things my self and really the line dividing Unix and embeded is GONE in the Z. When I think embeded I write code that runs from eprom with out ANY RAM. We have it real easy on the Z! :r) |
| 21:48.08 | mickeyl | any idea if and when the embedix-2.4.18 for 5600 will be released? I mean it's still GPL or isn't it? |
| 21:48.11 | mrwoody | ||ugh: why not you give a try? ;-) |
| 21:49.29 | nobse | mickeyl: in 2.4.6, the sd card driver isn't gpl'ed |
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| 21:54.14 | Onyx4 | so eventually we are going to move everything in $(STAGING_DIR)/usr/lib to /lib ? |
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| 21:54.44 | Onyx4 | I am fixing tmake now to be compatible with the new qte stuff |
| 21:55.35 | mrwoody | my z would suspend now... |
| 21:55.42 | mrwoody | what the hell is happening |
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| 21:57.18 | TheMasterMind1 | wonderful |
| 21:57.18 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: here? |
| 21:57.18 | smee|h | does qte contain QUrlOperator? |
| 21:57.18 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: ping |
| 21:57.19 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: YGM! |
| 21:57.43 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: i cannot suspend my z |
| 21:57.53 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: everything else seems to work though |
| 21:58.04 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: but this is a kind of problem |
| 21:58.53 | mrwoody | what package contain the suspend thing? |
| 21:58.57 | Onyx4 | do in the knights makefile or other tmake applications we won't have to specify the staging dir and all that crap |
| 21:59.02 | Onyx4 | it'll just figure it out by the tmake |
| 22:00.15 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: cannot? |
| 22:00.18 | AndyQ | mrwoody - I had this problem, you need to uninstall apmd and libapm1, then install libamp1 then install apmd |
| 22:00.21 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: install libapm and apmd |
| 22:00.27 | Onyx4 | for now I'll put both /usr/lib and /lib into the lib dirs for tmake |
| 22:00.30 | Onyx4 | until we have moved everything |
| 22:00.38 | AndyQ | but you have to install libapm1 seperately! |
| 22:00.42 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 22:00.43 | AndyQ | from apmd |
| 22:00.53 | mrwoody | AndyQ: how to reinstall them? i do a force-dependence or something like that? |
| 22:01.09 | AndyQ | mrwoody: remove them both, then just install them |
| 22:01.10 | TheMasterMind1 | ARGH! |
| 22:01.13 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: wake up! |
| 22:01.19 | mrwoody | AndyQ: I force them? |
| 22:01.41 | AndyQ | you dont need to as they are removed! |
| 22:03.53 | mrwoody | AndyQ: nice... now it works |
| 22:03.59 | AndyQ | np |
| 22:04.09 | mrwoody | shit |
| 22:04.21 | AndyQ | urrrgh! How the fuck did Gareth Gates win record of the yeart 2002??? |
| 22:04.58 | Onyx4 | how do I find a file that I edited but I don't remember which one? |
| 22:05.01 | mrwoody | opie died |
| 22:05.05 | Onyx4 | with bk that is |
| 22:05.06 | AndyQ | must have only let people under 6 vote! |
| 22:05.12 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: tik: tik: tik: tik: tik: tik: tik: tik: tik: tik: tik: |
| 22:05.13 | TheMasterMind1 | wake up! |
| 22:05.15 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 22:05.15 | AndyQ | mrwoody: Opie does that sometimes |
| 22:05.25 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: wsup? |
| 22:05.37 | mrwoody | AndyQ: yes, but it seems dead |
| 22:05.54 | AndyQ | battery switch reboot methinks |
| 22:06.05 | mrwoody | i am trying that |
| 22:06.45 | mrwoody | ok... back to normal... it looks like |
| 22:07.24 | mrwoody | my cf card disappeared |
| 22:07.45 | mrwoody | hmm... maybe it needs a fsck |
| 22:07.52 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: OK, installing some packages from your feed - opie-batteryappletopie-clockappletopie-cardmon and I get a PANIC: Could not resolve symbol "opie_block_style" just after configuring postinstall script |
| 22:08.59 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: update libqpe |
| 22:09.04 | TheMasterMind1 | um |
| 22:09.10 | TheMasterMind1 | update opie-base libopie and qt-embedded |
| 22:09.17 | TheMasterMind1 | anyone know how debug works in the kernell |
| 22:09.20 | AndyQ | did that |
| 22:09.21 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: where in the opie builds it tells to link with libjpeg, libz and libpng for qte stuff? |
| 22:09.21 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: any idea how debug kernel works |
| 22:09.46 | AndyQ | ahhh - needed to restart opie after opie-base - DOH! |
| 22:10.33 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: opie continues to die after suspending... |
| 22:10.58 | tik | tik ist back :) |
| 22:11.01 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: no clue. |
| 22:11.02 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: heh |
| 22:11.08 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: i mean after resuming |
| 22:11.10 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: bk pull |
| 22:11.12 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: your patch was pissing me off |
| 22:11.15 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: I fixed a bunch of problems |
| 22:11.19 | TheMasterMind1 | someone know what CONFIG_CMD_LINE="console=tty0" in the kernel does? |
| 22:11.26 | pb_ | nothing. |
| 22:11.32 | tik | TheMasterMind1: did it? |
| 22:11.37 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: about to test it again |
| 22:11.39 | TheMasterMind1 | pb_: nothing? |
| 22:11.41 | tik | TheMasterMind1: in what way? |
| 22:11.51 | TheMasterMind1 | pb_: is that what would cause all messages to output to the console? |
| 22:12.02 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm trying to figure out how kergoth made debugging kernels work |
| 22:12.20 | TheMasterMind1 | CONFIG_CMDLINE="root=/dev/mtdblock4 mem=40M console=tty0" |
| 22:12.34 | pb_ | TheMasterMind1: adding "console=tty0" is definitely what would do that, but I would be a bit surprised if CONFIG_CMDLINE was actually used for anything. |
| 22:12.42 | pb_ | TheMasterMind1: normally the commandline is passed in from the boot loader. |
| 22:12.56 | TheMasterMind1 | pb_: *shrug* it seems to get used in OZ |
| 22:13.04 | TheMasterMind1 | ok, kergoth has this thing backwards then |
| 22:13.06 | pb_ | b'zarre |
| 22:13.25 | TheMasterMind1 | $(if $(CONFIG_KERNEL_DEBUG),,/^CONFIG_CMDLINE/s/\"\$$/ console=tty0\"/;) |
| 22:13.27 | TheMasterMind1 | explain that |
| 22:13.27 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 22:13.40 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: collie_battery.c:117: syntax error before `{' |
| 22:14.42 | tik | TheMasterMind1: eh? not really possible, I built a kernel from it some hours ago... |
| 22:14.56 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: but its erroring, and i dunno why |
| 22:15.18 | TheMasterMind1 | bunch of warnings too |
| 22:16.05 | tik | TheMasterMind1: hmm. |
| 22:16.09 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm indeed |
| 22:16.09 | TheMasterMind1 | fix it |
| 22:16.14 | TheMasterMind1 | :) |
| 22:16.27 | tik | TheMasterMind1: those warnings are mainly from lineo stuff ;). |
| 22:16.47 | tik | TheMasterMind1: first I'll have to reproduce it ;). |
| 22:17.09 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: for some reason now libpng is popping up all over qte apps |
| 22:17.18 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: it seems like we were not linking with it before I guess |
| 22:17.44 | Onyx4 | I'm not sure what's the proper way of now inserting libpng and libz in all qte apps linking |
| 22:18.53 | tik | TheMasterMind1: can you perhaps mail me the output from the compiler? And a suitable gcc -v? |
| 22:19.11 | TheMasterMind1 | -v ? |
| 22:19.33 | tik | version info ;) |
| 22:19.42 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: opie dies everytime i resume the Z :-( |
| 22:19.52 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: http://www.tjhsst.edu/~agupta/battery.html |
| 22:21.32 | TheMasterMind1 | agupta@hubris:~/zaurus/buildroot$ arm-linux-gcc -v |
| 22:21.32 | TheMasterMind1 | Reading specs from /usr/local/arm/2.95.3/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/2.95.3/specs |
| 22:21.32 | TheMasterMind1 | gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (release) |
| 22:21.39 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: hmm, what does it say on the console/ |
| 22:22.02 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: hmm, before it was statically compile in, now its shared |
| 22:22.04 | tik | funny. |
| 22:22.11 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: Killed |
| 22:22.13 | mrwoody | that's it |
| 22:22.17 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: hmm, wtf |
| 22:22.20 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: gotcha, so I'm modifying qte-sdl also so include the flags for png and libz |
| 22:22.26 | mrwoody | and i really didn't do much more than an ipkg upgrade |
| 22:22.30 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: no no |
| 22:22.33 | TheMasterMind1 | i fixed that one |
| 22:22.34 | TheMasterMind1 | fix others |
| 22:22.38 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 22:22.45 | Onyx4 | arg, well bkpush your stuff :) |
| 22:22.52 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm trying to fix this stupid kernel build first |
| 22:22.56 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: any idea? |
| 22:23.05 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: so you just changed the configure patch? |
| 22:23.11 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: $(if $(CONFIG_KERNEL_DEBUG),,/^CONFIG_CMDLINE/s/\"\$$/ console=tty0\"/;) what does that mean? |
| 22:23.19 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: what package can it be? |
| 22:23.27 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: everything is updated? |
| 22:23.53 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: yes, it looks lie |
| 22:23.53 | Onyx4 | now libjpeg is just in /lib so did you make sure to include both? |
| 22:23.55 | mrwoody | like |
| 22:24.05 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: let me try without cf card |
| 22:24.06 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: ok one sec lemme push all this stuff |
| 22:24.42 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: to make sure you did your changes correctly, see if qte-gnuboy compiles |
| 22:24.52 | Onyx4 | because qte-sdl compiled fine, but then qte-gnuboy would fail because of libpng |
| 22:25.08 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: i don't get the problem without cf card |
| 22:25.20 | tik | TheMasterMind1: some minutes... |
| 22:25.53 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: by not making libpng static, we'll have to relink all apps, no? |
| 22:26.33 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: hmmmm |
| 22:26.35 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: what's on the CF |
| 22:26.38 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: yes |
| 22:26.51 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: some commercial apps may fail, no? |
| 22:26.56 | TheMasterMind1 | no clue |
| 22:26.59 | Onyx4 | unless they use LD_PRELOAD I guess |
| 22:27.19 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: some software ... and it is ext2... |
| 22:27.41 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: hmm, but stuff seems to be working, hancom does |
| 22:27.44 | TheMasterMind1 | not sure |
| 22:27.54 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm, because only qte is linked to libpng |
| 22:27.59 | TheMasterMind1 | and when qte runs, it just loads png |
| 22:28.00 | TheMasterMind1 | so we're fine |
| 22:28.07 | Onyx4 | mmm I see |
| 22:28.24 | Onyx4 | by on compile time, it seems like knights for example would not work unless I force it with libjpeg libpng etc |
| 22:28.24 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: now i don't get the problem anymore but it unmount and mount the cf card again |
| 22:28.30 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: bk pull |
| 22:28.40 | TheMasterMind1 | i guess i didn't make many changes after all |
| 22:28.48 | TheMasterMind1 | lots of the stuff is in opie cvs |
| 22:28.59 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: yea, its just a compile time thing |
| 22:29.25 | Onyx4 | what's the battery 2 patch? |
| 22:29.27 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: reboot |
| 22:29.30 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: crap, ignore it |
| 22:29.34 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm waiting on tik |
| 22:29.37 | TheMasterMind1 | batter2 isn't used |
| 22:29.39 | TheMasterMind1 | its just there |
| 22:29.44 | Onyx4 | k |
| 22:30.12 | TheMasterMind1 | i wonder if this fixed the debug thing |
| 22:30.28 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: ok one thing you need to fix |
| 22:30.32 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: yes? |
| 22:30.33 | Onyx4 | edit packages/qte |
| 22:30.36 | tik | TheMasterMind1: Hmm. Here it compiles. |
| 22:30.39 | Onyx4 | locate the line that says _2.3.4-4 |
| 22:30.43 | Onyx4 | up that rev number to 5b |
| 22:30.46 | Onyx4 | to match the control file |
| 22:30.54 | Onyx4 | only for the stamp-ipk |
| 22:30.56 | Onyx4 | not fonts |
| 22:31.05 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: grr. |
| 22:31.09 | Onyx4 | this will fix the problem where qte always rebuild |
| 22:31.13 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 22:31.20 | tik | TheMasterMind1: can you mail me your version? Or shall I mail mine again? |
| 22:31.42 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: that's the exact file i have in there.. |
| 22:31.52 | TheMasterMind1 | i diffed the two files |
| 22:31.54 | TheMasterMind1 | they're the same |
| 22:31.58 | TheMasterMind1 | but it doesn't compile |
| 22:32.16 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: I think the problem is that for SDL we also need to include our staging dir in /lib for libjpeg not sure |
| 22:32.24 | Onyx4 | try to compile qte-gnuboy |
| 22:32.27 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: quick question, once playing a movie with mplayer, how do you stop it playing? |
| 22:32.33 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: pressing Q should do it |
| 22:32.34 | TheMasterMind1 | shoud.. |
| 22:32.53 | tik | TheMasterMind1: *g* I know I have one that works. |
| 22:32.54 | Onyx4 | /home/clambert/oz/buildroot/output/staging/usr/lib/libSDL.so: undefined reference to `QWidget::dragEnterEvent(QDragEnterEvent *)' |
| 22:32.57 | AndyQ | nope - deos sfa |
| 22:33.11 | tik | TheMasterMind1: did you try with that from the mail? |
| 22:34.18 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: it continue to crash... |
| 22:34.20 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: rebuild your sdl and qte and stuff |
| 22:34.29 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: I did |
| 22:34.51 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: hmm, doesn't for me. i dunno whats going on |
| 22:35.22 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: try what |
| 22:35.31 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: it works for you to compile qte-gnuboy? |
| 22:35.35 | TheMasterMind1 | haven't tried |
| 22:36.07 | tik | TheMasterMind1: I sent y<ou two files. one with a bßrken diff, the other with my current version of collie_battery.c. Did you try the latter? |
| 22:36.23 | Onyx4 | if we're gonna put all the libs in /lib instead of /usr/lib, we better do it soon, cause a lot of things will break when we have stuff in both places |
| 22:36.49 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: i discarded the borken diff. made a diff with your collie_battery and used that. the file that its failing on and the .c you sent me are exactly the same |
| 22:36.55 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: hmm, one sec |
| 22:37.51 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: I don't think it's a good idea to get rid of /usr in staging , dunno |
| 22:39.04 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: can it be because the battery is too low? |
| 22:39.25 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: but it is on charge, though |
| 22:40.32 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: with your old patch it works just fine, but with the new file it dies |
| 22:40.40 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: which arm-linux-gcc are you using |
| 22:40.46 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: since you reverted your change on the kernel makefile, just simply remove "revision" completely, otherwise we trigger a new build of modules |
| 22:40.59 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 22:41.13 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: do you have a new initrd.bin? i can restart all over again with that |
| 22:41.21 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: not yet |
| 22:42.07 | tik | TheMasterMind1: 2.95.3, same as you I think |
| 22:42.44 | tik | TheMasterMind1: just mail me the file you got, perhaps something strange happened in-transport. |
| 22:43.07 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: to compile knights, just mrproper both tmake and knights and it'll work |
| 22:43.46 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: i just copied your file over mine and its not working still |
| 22:44.05 | kergoth | yo |
| 22:44.10 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: ! |
| 22:44.15 | AndyQ | hey kergoth |
| 22:44.15 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm going fucking crazy |
| 22:44.16 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 22:44.22 | Onyx4 | yeah things are hecktic |
| 22:44.28 | tik | hi kergoth :) |
| 22:44.29 | ljp | ohhh kde3.1 is pretty |
| 22:44.30 | kergoth | i can tell |
| 22:44.31 | kergoth | hey tik |
| 22:44.43 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:44.54 | Onyx4 | kergoth: so are we really cleaning up the /usr directory in staging? meaning that /usr/lib -> /lib ? |
| 22:44.59 | cranch | I want CUPS support in Opie |
| 22:45.04 | kergoth | Onyx4: more than that. |
| 22:45.09 | tik | TheMasterMind1: then paste line 110 to 120 here please. |
| 22:45.14 | Onyx4 | if so we should at least do it for libpng and libz which are now required for most qte apps to compile |
| 22:45.24 | kergoth | Onyx4: staging will now consist of 1) bin, 2) include, 3) lib. bin will *only* have x86 built binaries. |
| 22:45.31 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: wireless is broken in your feed |
| 22:45.35 | Onyx4 | we have to change everywhere in makefiles and patches from $(STAGING_DIR)/usr/lib to $(STAGING_DIR)/lib |
| 22:45.42 | kergoth | i know. |
| 22:45.46 | kergoth | thats completely expected |
| 22:45.49 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: hey, one thing. does CMDLINE="console=tty0" do debug? |
| 22:45.52 | kergoth | as schurig and i discussed |
| 22:46.00 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: wtf are you doing to the kernel builds? |
| 22:46.10 | TheMasterMind1 | uhoh |
| 22:46.12 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: theres a reason i maintain that package, cause i knew wtf was going on |
| 22:46.16 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:46.20 | TheMasterMind1 | lol |
| 22:46.43 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: any idea why ifup says that wlan0 is up but it doesn't appear when I do ifconfig? |
| 22:46.59 | kergoth | AndyQ: your ifstate has remnant bits |
| 22:47.03 | kergoth | AndyQ: ifdown then ifup the interface |
| 22:47.14 | kergoth | AndyQ: or edit ifstate directly |
| 22:47.48 | AndyQ | kergoth: ifdown then ifup made no difference |
| 22:48.00 | kergoth | AndyQ: that shouldnt be possible. |
| 22:48.05 | chouimat | kergoth: you're alive????? |
| 22:48.09 | kergoth | AndyQ: something is fucked with your environment. |
| 22:48.12 | kergoth | chouimat: indeed |
| 22:48.19 | kergoth | oh guys, i saw this movie called Equilibrium last night |
| 22:48.20 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: i was trying to fix that debug issue but i probably fucked it up |
| 22:48.26 | kergoth | I heartily recommend it, its fucking amazing |
| 22:48.30 | AndyQ | kergoth: /etc/network/ifstate says : lo=lo wlan0=wlan0 |
| 22:48.42 | kergoth | AndyQ: right, so wlan0's state is up |
| 22:48.44 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: ifconfig -a shows wlan0 ? |
| 22:48.47 | chouimat | kergoth: how was it? |
| 22:48.50 | kergoth | AndyQ: in the ifupdown system |
| 22:48.56 | AndyQ | yes |
| 22:49.01 | kergoth | chouimat: very good. had fight scenes that were better than i've seen anywhere |
| 22:49.18 | kergoth | chouimat: different, but in its way as good as matrix and blade with regard to fight scenes |
| 22:49.21 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: alright, i give up i can't figure out what the fuck it thinks is a syntax error |
| 22:49.25 | kergoth | chouimat: if you liked matrix, you'll like it |
| 22:49.39 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: any ideas? |
| 22:49.56 | chouimat | kergoth: ok |
| 22:50.03 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: ifdown wlan0; ifup wlan0 |
| 22:50.11 | kergoth | chouimat: its not in many theatres yet, its only in 2 in my area |
| 22:50.18 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: done that - no difference |
| 22:50.35 | mrwoody | chouimat: did you like matrix? |
| 22:50.40 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm, fuck. i noticed this too but i thought it was just me |
| 22:50.41 | kergoth | AndyQ: well, ifup does a ifconfig up on the interface. |
| 22:51.01 | kergoth | AndyQ: assuming a sane interfaces file of course |
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| 22:51.13 | chouimat | mrwoody: with my ex-wife, and some part I only saw years later on tv .... ;) |
| 22:51.20 | AndyQ | kergoth: ifconfig up wlan0 does nothing |
| 22:51.33 | kergoth | AndyQ: then ifupdown has nothing to do with it, its lower level than that |
| 22:51.34 | tik | TheMasterMind1: grmbl. mail it to me and I can have a look! |
| 22:51.40 | mrwoody | chouimat: that means you didn't like it? (that was my original question) |
| 22:51.44 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 22:51.46 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: mail what to you? |
| 22:51.53 | TheMasterMind1 | the file? |
| 22:51.54 | chouimat | mrwoody: I liked it |
| 22:51.59 | kergoth | AndyQ: you're telling me after doing ifconfig wlan0 up, then ifconfig wlan0 doesnt show UP in the ifconfig output? |
| 22:52.07 | mrwoody | chouimat: ok :-) |
| 22:52.12 | AndyQ | kergoth: yup |
| 22:52.16 | kergoth | AndyQ: no fucking idea |
| 22:52.16 | AndyQ | --- brb |
| 22:52.17 | kergoth | AndyQ: good luck |
| 22:52.30 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: http://www.tjhsst.edu/~agupta/collie_battery.c --- collie_battery.c:118: syntax error before `{' |
| 22:53.01 | tik | TheMasterMind1: merci |
| 22:53.06 | chouimat | kergoth: I found the volume 2,4,5,6 of the o'reilly X11 series for 8$ :) |
| 22:53.13 | kergoth | chouimat: nice. |
| 22:53.39 | chouimat | kergoth: embedded motif for OZ |
| 22:54.10 | chouimat | hehe |
| 22:54.13 | tik | TheMasterMind1: that's not exactly what I sent you ;) |
| 22:54.32 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: i changed it |
| 22:54.34 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: heh |
| 22:54.44 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: wtf, udhcpc is now in /sbin again for some reason |
| 22:54.48 | mrwoody | chouimat: can you send me your hotplug/usbd.func |
| 22:54.49 | tik | TheMasterMind1: anyway, add a "=" at the end of line 117 and it might work ;) |
| 22:55.09 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: hmm, smart thinking |
| 22:55.16 | chouimat | kergoth: fix the toolchains generation |
| 22:55.18 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: heh, that's strange |
| 22:55.22 | chouimat | mrwoody: ok |
| 22:55.27 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: its the busybox symlink, busybox controls that, outside our control |
| 22:55.27 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: was your busybox outdated maybe? |
| 22:55.36 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: the file you sent is like that too |
| 22:55.39 | mrwoody | chouimat: thanks |
| 22:55.43 | tik | oops. |
| 22:55.44 | Onyx4 | maybe we should use `which udhcpc` ? |
| 22:55.48 | tik | one moment... |
| 22:55.59 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: might have been the new busybox that was in that loc |
| 22:56.41 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: is this normal: Not downgrading package oz-base on root from unstable-14q to 2.1-1. |
| 22:56.43 | tik | TheMasterMind1: Then somethin broke on the way. I have ... [MAIN_BATTERY_THRES+2] = |
| 22:56.59 | kergoth | mrwoody: hmm, it should be Replacing unstable- versions.. |
| 22:57.02 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: must have, my scp might have fucked up or something |
| 22:57.12 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: no its not, well it is, but it shouldn't be happening |
| 22:57.32 | tik | TheMasterMind1: Hmm, next time I'll sign the stuff. |
| 22:57.40 | chouimat | mrwoody: find the line if usbd0 $IP netmask $NETMASK in ubsd_net_if_up and add mtu 1000 to it |
| 22:57.41 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: i get it from your feed... is there something missing there? |
| 22:57.51 | mrwoody | chouimat: ok... thanks |
| 22:58.13 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: tell me if this is right: |
| 22:58.25 | TheMasterMind1 | $(if $(CONFIG_KERNEL_DEBUG),/^CONFIG_CMDLINE/s/\"\$$/ console=tty0\"/,;) |
| 22:58.31 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: LEAVE IT ALONE |
| 22:58.36 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: dont fucking touch what you dont fucking understand |
| 22:58.45 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i just fixed it in my local tree in about 15 seconds flat |
| 22:59.25 | tik | oops. opiew refuses to compile. |
| 22:59.59 | tik | no rule to make target core/launcher/libpreload/Makefile blah |
| 23:00.04 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: cvs up |
| 23:00.11 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: your opie sources |
| 23:00.22 | tik | TheMasterMind1: mercie |
| 23:00.24 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: i already fucked it up in bkbits i'm trying to fix it now |
| 23:00.35 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: *leave* *it* *alone* |
| 23:00.40 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i will fix it properly. |
| 23:00.56 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: sigh.. alright. i'm going to push this new battery patch then, ok? |
| 23:00.58 | chouimat | hehe |
| 23:01.00 | kergoth | go ahea |
| 23:01.00 | kergoth | d |
| 23:01.04 | kergoth | we have Maintainer for a reason |
| 23:01.10 | kergoth | to avoid people stepping on each others toes |
| 23:01.15 | kergoth | so in the future dont fucking step on my fucking toes, thanks |
| 23:01.24 | TheMasterMind1 | yes master |
| 23:01.26 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:01.29 | chouimat | lol |
| 23:01.32 | TheMasterMind1 | alright pushed |
| 23:02.03 | tik | *g* |
| 23:03.02 | TheMasterMind1 | ok, anyone using buildroot, make sure you wipe STAGING/usr/lib/libqte* and libqpe* and wipe qte and opie builds and remake them, with latest opie from cvs |
| 23:04.01 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: i'm going to go to cvs head again for busybox ok? |
| 23:04.01 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: or today anyway |
| 23:04.01 | TheMasterMind1 | lock it to today |
| 23:04.01 | tik | TheMasterMind1: qte necessary too? |
| 23:04.01 | TheMasterMind1 | tik: yes |
| 23:04.10 | TheMasterMind1 | lots of new qte patches and stuff in opie sources |
| 23:04.15 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: go ahead |
| 23:04.21 | tik | TheMasterMind1: ARGL. I wanted to finish this hout :( |
| 23:04.21 | TheMasterMind1 | fixes hancom word and sheet and a issue with popup menus |
| 23:04.21 | AndyQ | ok back |
| 23:04.23 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: what new in opie? |
| 23:04.24 | TheMasterMind1 | and stuff |
| 23:04.34 | TheMasterMind1 | chouimat: opie has those new qte patches above |
| 23:04.54 | AndyQ | kergoth: should my interfaces have: auto lo wlan |
| 23:05.07 | AndyQ | wlan0 even |
| 23:05.14 | kergoth | ? |
| 23:05.15 | kergoth | no |
| 23:05.27 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: the problem is with ifupdown |
| 23:05.31 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm fixing |
| 23:05.39 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: he says ifconfig wlan0 up doesnt work. |
| 23:05.43 | TheMasterMind1 | oh |
| 23:05.45 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: if that doesnt work it has nothing to do with ifupdown :) |
| 23:05.45 | TheMasterMind1 | hmmm |
| 23:05.48 | kergoth | pretty odd |
| 23:05.50 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: k |
| 23:05.50 | TheMasterMind1 | that's not good |
| 23:06.36 | AndyQ | kergoth: I also have iface wlan0 inet dhcp leasehours 24 leasetime 86400 |
| 23:07.09 | kergoth | 'also'? |
| 23:07.17 | kergoth | that is fine. |
| 23:07.22 | kergoth | you should not have a auto line for wlan0 |
| 23:07.53 | AndyQ | kergoth: so I should remove the auto for wlan0 so it just reads auto lo |
| 23:08.12 | kergoth | yes. |
| 23:09.40 | AndyQ | kergoth: made no difference whatsoever :( |
| 23:09.44 | kergoth | i know |
| 23:09.48 | kergoth | i didnt expect it to |
| 23:09.50 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:09.53 | kergoth | it just shouldnt be auto |
| 23:10.02 | AndyQ | ha |
| 23:10.08 | kergoth | :) |
| 23:10.11 | kergoth | i dunno what the problem is |
| 23:10.21 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: ifconfig -a shows it? |
| 23:10.31 | TheMasterMind1 | Build BusyBox as a static binary (no shared libs) (DOSTATIC) [N/y/?] (NEW) |
| 23:10.32 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 23:10.32 | mrwoody | kergoth: what is the newest version of oz-base? 2.0.1? |
| 23:10.34 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: yes - but it doesn't have an ipaddress |
| 23:10.42 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: ifconfig wlan0 up doesn't work? |
| 23:10.48 | kergoth | mrwoody: 2.1-1 |
| 23:10.57 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: no |
| 23:11.05 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: bleh, whole bunch of new options in busybox from today |
| 23:11.10 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:11.14 | mrwoody | kergoth: it continues to tell me Not downgrading package oz-base on root from unstable-14q to 2.1-1. |
| 23:11.16 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: update packages/busybox/defconfig |
| 23:11.23 | kergoth | mrwoody: yes, i know, i heard you say that up above |
| 23:11.32 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: should ifconfig wlan0 up give some output? |
| 23:11.36 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: coz it doesnt |
| 23:11.37 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: no |
| 23:11.38 | kergoth | mrwoody: force it or sit on your ass and wait for a fix |
| 23:11.41 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: then do ifconfig |
| 23:11.43 | kergoth | mrwoody: i dont see what you expect me to do |
| 23:11.44 | TheMasterMind1 | does wlan0 show as up |
| 23:11.59 | mrwoody | kergoth: hmm... |
| 23:12.14 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: If shows now in ifconfig, but it no ipaddress for it |
| 23:12.21 | kergoth | AndyQ: why would there be an ip? |
| 23:12.30 | kergoth | AndyQ: unless you assigned it one or udhcpc is running, it wont. |
| 23:12.32 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: ok, the problem is just with ifupdown |
| 23:12.39 | mrwoody | kergoth: how to force it? |
| 23:12.52 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: whats the problem? |
| 23:13.01 | kergoth | mrwoody: myself, i'd just wget the damn ipk and install it lcoally |
| 23:13.01 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: ifup isn't running udhcpc |
| 23:13.02 | kergoth | mrwoody: heh |
| 23:13.15 | mrwoody | kergoth: i have already wget it |
| 23:13.18 | kergoth | mrwoody: so? |
| 23:13.22 | kergoth | mrwoody: ipkg install blah.ipk |
| 23:13.28 | kergoth | mrwoody: local installs dont care about version. |
| 23:13.28 | mrwoody | kergoth: the problem is that if i do ipkg -force-reinstall install oz-base_2.1-1_arm.ipk |
| 23:13.44 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: anything I can fix locally? |
| 23:13.44 | mrwoody | it gives me the same problem |
| 23:13.46 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: if ipkg install blah.ipk is refusing to downgrade the package, something is b0rked. |
| 23:13.56 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: local ipk installs have never cared about version |
| 23:14.05 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: hmm, its not supposed to? |
| 23:14.09 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: or at least, its a changed behavior that will throw off people's expectations |
| 23:14.15 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 23:14.20 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: it never used to check version on local installs. what if i want to install an older package? |
| 23:14.24 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: the user knows best |
| 23:14.26 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 23:14.39 | kergoth | if its changed and this is expected, it must be documented |
| 23:14.42 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: busybox config is asking for path to cross compiler.. |
| 23:14.44 | kergoth | cause its not the way it used to behave |
| 23:15.07 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: sed the config to feed it our $(CROSS_DIR) |
| 23:15.09 | kergoth | imho |
| 23:15.49 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: hmm, if you say no to cross compiling in the config it still cross compiles |
| 23:15.51 | TheMasterMind1 | so screw it |
| 23:15.56 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: ? |
| 23:16.08 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: .. we want to crosscompile busybox last i checked.. |
| 23:16.11 | kergoth | well |
| 23:16.18 | kergoth | depends on how OZ is configured :) |
| 23:16.22 | kergoth | in our menuconfig |
| 23:16.23 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:16.36 | kergoth | so we need to alter busybox config based on OZ config |
| 23:16.38 | kergoth | fun stuff |
| 23:16.44 | TheMasterMind1 | ok here's the thing. the busybox config asks you if you're cross compiling, but even if you say no the buildroot cross compiles it |
| 23:16.55 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: of course. |
| 23:16.57 | TheMasterMind1 | so we can just say no we're not cross compiling and have it cross compile anyway |
| 23:17.01 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: buildroot sets CC and everything directly |
| 23:17.04 | TheMasterMind1 | exactly |
| 23:17.07 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: because not all buildsystems are as sane as busybox |
| 23:17.08 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:17.09 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: can i manually run udhcpc? |
| 23:17.13 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: yes. |
| 23:17.23 | TheMasterMind1 | so we just won't care what the config thinks |
| 23:17.31 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: how? it gives me an error without any args |
| 23:17.32 | kergoth | anything thats run automatically can generally be run manually |
| 23:17.37 | kergoth | AndyQ: udhcpc --help |
| 23:17.40 | kergoth | AndyQ: udhcpc -i wlan0 afaicr |
| 23:18.08 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: testing the corrected debug kernel deal now. its building. |
| 23:18.09 | AndyQ | hergoth: ahhh thats what I was after - thx |
| 23:18.28 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: you tested today's busybox before pushing into bk? |
| 23:18.45 | AndyQ | phew - thats got it up and running again - what a pain in the rear |
| 23:18.45 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: you don't up the rev of cvs without testing it on your system first if it works |
| 23:18.48 | AndyQ | Thanks for the help |
| 23:19.05 | chouimat | ok back |
| 23:19.11 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: i haven't pushed anything.. |
| 23:19.45 | Onyx4 | ok make sure you test before pushing busybox changes, they usually break a lot of things so careful :) |
| 23:20.02 | TheMasterMind1 | yea, i tested a new busybox a copule of days ago |
| 23:20.04 | TheMasterMind1 | about to test this one |
| 23:20.17 | chouimat | damn!!!! -23C tomorrow, -40C with the Windchill :( |
| 23:20.21 | kergoth | last i tested it was working fine as well |
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| 23:20.25 | kergoth | other than preload b0rking it |
| 23:20.57 | Onyx4 | ok good, so at least we would finally have a more recent cvs snapshot of busybox that's working |
| 23:21.04 | kergoth | yep |
| 23:21.20 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: your tar overwrite fix ever make it into cvs, or are we still patching? |
| 23:21.25 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: its in cvs |
| 23:21.33 | kergoth | good. |
| 23:21.38 | chouimat | kergoth: busybox is fixed ? by itself again? |
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| 23:22.16 | Onyx4 | new battery kernel patch? |
| 23:22.29 | kergoth | okay im gonna go watch some tv while my kernels build, then ill test that out and finish up the staging cleanups |
| 23:22.57 | Onyx4 | kergoth`tv: ok cool, i'm waiting for the staging area to be cleaned to start fixing the references to usr/lib |
| 23:22.59 | chouimat | kergoth`tv: any chance you fix the toolchain build soon? and the gentoo support too? |
| 23:23.23 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth`tv: hey |
| 23:23.36 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth`tv: what was up with that whole include Vars.make thing? |
| 23:24.21 | kergoth`tv | TheMasterMind1: sed script to add the export of CFLAGS, CXXFLAGS, and LDFLAGS in autoconf based builds |
| 23:24.28 | kergoth`tv | TheMasterMind1: script went a lil wacky |
| 23:24.31 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 23:24.33 | kergoth`tv | chouimat: hopefully tonight |
| 23:24.36 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: is there any way to force downgrading? |
| 23:24.37 | chouimat | kergoth`tv: ok |
| 23:24.43 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: unfortunately no |
| 23:25.04 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: maybe we can do something for that. |
| 23:25.18 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: i guess it is impossible to ipkg remove oz-base, right? |
| 23:25.31 | TheMasterMind1 | that might not be good |
| 23:25.31 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 23:26.15 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: did you say you were fixing or had fixed ifupfown? |
| 23:26.19 | AndyQ | ifupdown even |
| 23:26.22 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: update busybox from the feed |
| 23:26.25 | TheMasterMind1 | my feed |
| 23:26.28 | TheMasterMind1 | ipkg update first |
| 23:26.38 | AndyQ | woo! |
| 23:27.19 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: what is libsdl1.2qte? |
| 23:27.23 | TheMasterMind1 | sdl for qte |
| 23:27.38 | mrwoody | would it conflict with libsdl? |
| 23:27.42 | TheMasterMind1 | yes |
| 23:27.52 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: heh and whats changed again in qte? |
| 23:28.12 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: support for hancom stuff and a bug with overlapping menus |
| 23:28.13 | mrwoody | some software working with sdl have problems now.. .and didn't have before the upgrading... is that normal? |
| 23:28.46 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1 doom still works fortunatelly |
| 23:29.17 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: wahay - your a star - it works! Thx |
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| 23:29.50 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: I'll stick with your feed for a while longer :) |
| 23:29.58 | coup | evenin all |
| 23:30.10 | AndyQ | night all |
| 23:30.27 | coup | whats this? use unstable as my main feed? |
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| 23:38.51 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: rc and irrecords should go to /usr/bin, right? |
| 23:41.02 | TheMasterMind1 | yes |
| 23:41.33 | mrwoody | lircd: permission denied |
| 23:41.55 | mrwoody | chmod +x i guess |
| 23:47.18 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: how does lircd.conf look like? |
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| 23:52.33 | kergoth`tv | hmm |
| 23:53.04 | kergoth`tv | i need to find a company to pay to run the MX for one of my domains. I need only 1-5 mailboxes, IMAP/ssl support. ideas? |
| 23:53.12 | kergoth`tv | already have dns, only need the mailserver |
| 23:55.52 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: get one from lirc.sf.net/remotes/ |
| 23:56.10 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: and i just rename it to lircd.conf? |
| 23:56.14 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: yea |
| 23:56.56 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: what if i dont find mine? :-) |
| 23:58.22 | TheMasterMind1 | make one with irrecord |
| 23:58.27 | TheMasterMind1 | irrecord /etc/lircd.conf |