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| 00:01.00 | Onyx4 | hold on I found a slight bug with it |
| 00:01.51 | Dilb_op2 | hi |
| 00:02.12 | TheMasterMind1 | hi |
| 00:02.22 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm hyping up the ZZ forums again :) |
| 00:02.28 | kergoth | yes, get us testers! |
| 00:02.33 | TheMasterMind1 | yep |
| 00:02.39 | kergoth | oz3.1rc1 is out tonight or tomorrow |
| 00:02.40 | kergoth | cool |
| 00:02.48 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: please do changelog after this, put up as much stuff as you can on there |
| 00:03.13 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: i told em its out tonight :) |
| 00:03.36 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: probably will be |
| 00:03.40 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: barring anythign horrible coming up later |
| 00:03.45 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 00:03.51 | TheMasterMind1 | wonder where tik is |
| 00:04.02 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm, i'm hoping school gets canceled |
| 00:05.22 | ljp- | initd.bin? |
| 00:05.46 | TheMasterMind1 | ljp-: ? |
| 00:06.28 | Onyx4 | ok I pushed my fixes, tell me if this works |
| 00:06.33 | TheMasterMind1 | FREEZING RAIN WILL MOVE INTO THE AREA BETWEEN 4 AM AND 7 AM. THE FREEZING RAIN WILL CONTINUE THROUGHOUT THE MORNING HOURS. TEMPERATURES IN BALTIMORE CITY AND THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA WILL STRUGGLE ABOVE THE FREEZING MARK BY NOON WHICH WILL CAUSE THE FREEZING RAIN TO CHANGE TO RAIN. |
| 00:06.38 | Onyx4 | ok I pushed my fixes, tell me if this works |
| 00:07.02 | kergoth | Onyx4: yo, is there an echo? |
| 00:07.09 | Onyx4 | hehe |
| 00:07.18 | TheMasterMind1 | Heavy Rain / Freezing Rain |
| 00:07.18 | TheMasterMind1 | 35?/26? |
| 00:09.58 | kergoth`out | bbl, home |
| 00:10.05 | TheMasterMind1 | i think i need to copy lirc configs for the school tvs' onto my Z |
| 00:10.07 | TheMasterMind1 | have some fun :) |
| 00:11.50 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth`out: whatever happened to bootmenu and stuff |
| 00:12.27 | ljp- | heh I just made kmail from kde3.1 crash instantly by 'view' an attached jpeg |
| 00:12.40 | TheMasterMind1 | hownice |
| 00:14.28 | JasonNJ | ljp: you havent submitted a project yet |
| 00:14.54 | TheMasterMind1 | ljp-: |
| 00:15.04 | TheMasterMind1 | ljp-: www.themastermind1.net/zicon/ |
| 00:15.37 | JasonNJ | nice icons |
| 00:15.54 | TheMasterMind1 | yep |
| 00:15.56 | TheMasterMind1 | crystal icons |
| 00:16.05 | TheMasterMind1 | ljp-: use one of those, i like the pda myself |
| 00:16.40 | JasonNJ | hm scap is empty on hh.org |
| 00:18.46 | ljp- | JasonNJ: just got home.. :) |
| 00:27.49 | Dessimat0r | I've got a good Z icon |
| 00:27.56 | Dessimat0r | I asked someone to make one for me |
| 00:27.59 | Dessimat0r | ages abck |
| 00:28.01 | Dessimat0r | back |
| 00:31.08 | TheMasterMind1 | Dessimat0r: where is it |
| 00:31.25 | Dessimat0r | I tried to send it to ljp, seems that it crashed his cleint ;) |
| 00:31.28 | Dessimat0r | client |
| 00:31.32 | Dessimat0r | ljp- has quit IRC ("Sharp.Zaurus.SL-5500.ico 3580532796 4055 161862") |
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| 00:32.47 | TheMasterMind1 | heh, its an actual pic |
| 00:32.53 | Dessimat0r | yeah lol |
| 00:33.25 | Dessimat0r | i must say, i do like this one ;) http://web.themastermind1.net:82/zicon/pda.png |
| 00:33.30 | TheMasterMind1 | yea, me too |
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| 00:33.39 | TheMasterMind1 | ljp: use the pda.png! |
| 00:33.54 | ljp | damn ksirc keeps crashing |
| 00:33.56 | Dessimat0r | ljp: Sending my icon to you seems to crash you lol |
| 00:34.07 | Dessimat0r | ljp- has quit IRC ("Sharp.Zaurus.SL-5500.ico 3580532796 4055 161862") |
| 00:34.07 | ljp | ahhhh |
| 00:34.18 | TheMasterMind1 | rofl. |
| 00:34.30 | Dessimat0r | ljp: you have a crap irc client |
| 00:34.31 | Dessimat0r | ;) |
| 00:34.32 | TheMasterMind1 | we know how to get rid of ljp :P |
| 00:34.37 | Dessimat0r | hehehe |
| 00:34.46 | ljp | I am using ksirc here |
| 00:35.03 | TheMasterMind1 | ljp: use http://web.themastermind1.net:82/zicon/pda.png |
| 00:35.17 | Dessimat0r | Can't be good if it crashes every time I try and send that file ;) |
| 00:35.35 | ljp | well, no dcc here. shoul dbe stopped by my firewall |
| 00:35.46 | ljp | hmm |
| 00:36.12 | Dessimat0r | lmao |
| 00:36.28 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: is my fix working good so far? here it seems to be continuing to build |
| 00:37.00 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: haven't tried |
| 00:37.16 | Onyx4 | k |
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| 00:37.25 | Onyx4 | I think it's fixed now |
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| 00:37.42 | Onyx4 | I think I'll finally be able to flash today yay! |
| 00:38.21 | ljp | fine |
| 00:38.28 | Onyx4 | I did an important fix to libopenobex, it was missing the libopenobex.so symlink |
| 00:38.30 | Dessimat0r | ljp: are you using the latest version? |
| 00:38.34 | Dessimat0r | of kirc |
| 00:38.39 | Dessimat0r | if so, report the bug |
| 00:38.40 | Dessimat0r | or something |
| 00:38.41 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 00:38.43 | ljp | not on that machine |
| 00:38.49 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 00:39.23 | ljp | :) |
| 00:39.29 | Onyx4 | ah qte done building now it's opie's turn |
| 00:40.03 | Onyx4 | what's wellenreiter? |
| 00:40.04 | kergoth`out | Onyx4: missing the symlink where? |
| 00:40.10 | Onyx4 | kergoth`out: in the ipk |
| 00:40.12 | kergoth`out | Onyx4: .so links dont belong in the ipk. |
| 00:40.14 | kergoth`out | Onyx4: remove it. |
| 00:40.22 | Onyx4 | I mean the staging dir |
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| 00:40.41 | Onyx4 | fuck uic segfaults |
| 00:40.43 | Onyx4 | what the hell |
| 00:41.07 | Onyx4 | make[4]: Entering directory `/home/clambert/oz/buildroot/build/opie/library' |
| 00:41.07 | Onyx4 | /home/clambert/oz/buildroot/build/qt-2.3.4-beta2/bin/uic passwordbase_p.ui -o passwordbase_p.h |
| 00:41.07 | Onyx4 | make[4]: *** [passwordbase_p.h] Segmentation fault |
| 00:41.27 | Onyx4 | mmm it should be using uic from the staging no? |
| 00:41.40 | NightStar | kergoth`out: libvnc is still expecting output/staging/usr/include directory. |
| 00:42.15 | Onyx4 | i haven't compiled vnc here, so it's prolly untouched |
| 00:42.52 | NightStar | it wants to put 3 .h file there, but /usr/include is gone under the restructuring. |
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| 00:44.37 | NightStar | Darn... openssh still balks.. |
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| 00:45.11 | kergoth`out | NightStar: i just built openssh |
| 00:45.17 | NightStar | Hmm... |
| 00:45.26 | NightStar | In file included from bsd-arc4random.c:25: |
| 00:45.27 | NightStar | ../includes.h:160: openssl/opensslv.h: No such file or directory |
| 00:45.27 | NightStar | bsd-arc4random.c:32: openssl/rand.h: No such file or directory |
| 00:45.27 | NightStar | bsd-arc4random.c:33: openssl/rc4.h: No such file or directory |
| 00:45.27 | NightStar | bsd-arc4random.c:34: openssl/err.h: No such file or directory |
| 00:45.28 | kergoth`out | NightStar: let me wipe and do it again after a bk pull to ensure nobody broke it |
| 00:45.46 | NightStar | I just did a pull too. |
| 00:46.03 | NightStar | It's not finding the .h files from openssl. |
| 00:46.10 | kergoth`out | are the openssl headers there? |
| 00:46.15 | kergoth`out | in output/staging/include/openssl/? |
| 00:46.30 | NightStar | The were before, let me double check. |
| 00:46.36 | kergoth`out | ls -l them |
| 00:46.38 | kergoth`out | make sure |
| 00:47.01 | Onyx4 | kergoth`out: I think I know why it's not using our staging uic/moc, schruig did a patch for that, but only applied it for his CONFIG_RAMSES in the Makefile |
| 00:47.13 | Onyx4 | so I'm adding it to the general makefile and see if it'll now work with that |
| 00:47.26 | NightStar | Yes, they are all in buildroot-oz/output/staging/include/openssl/ |
| 00:48.02 | NightStar | That path never gets picked up during the ./configure and is not listed as a -I on the compile. |
| 00:48.24 | NightStar | output/staging/include does, but not openssl below it. |
| 00:49.07 | NightStar | actually output/staging/include is listed on the gcc line twice. |
| 00:52.29 | Onyx4 | ah the uic compiled by QTe segfaults on x86 |
| 00:53.52 | Onyx4 | not sure why |
| 00:54.39 | Onyx4 | oh well I just used the one from my qt2 install instead for now |
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| 01:04.30 | NightStar | How do I force bk to pull and disreguard any local changes? |
| 01:05.22 | Onyx4 | what conflict do you have? |
| 01:05.49 | NightStar | I had a s.Makefile that it thinks is newer. |
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| 01:06.20 | Onyx4 | which directory, what's the error when you ull |
| 01:06.22 | Onyx4 | pull |
| 01:06.47 | NightStar | that's scrolled off my screen now :( |
| 01:06.56 | Onyx4 | try bk pull again |
| 01:07.58 | NightStar | Eek. now I got a different one.. |
| 01:08.02 | NightStar | takepatch: can't find key 'BK|configs/busybox-new.mk|19700101030959|00209|810bfef5d17ca0f7' in id cach |
| 01:08.52 | Onyx4 | that sounds pretty bad, I'd reclone a new tree |
| 01:08.55 | NightStar | now I think I'm missing a file. |
| 01:10.24 | NightStar | Yea, is it possible to clone over the top? |
| 01:10.39 | Onyx4 | no |
| 01:10.44 | NightStar | OK. |
| 01:10.47 | NightStar | Thanks. |
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| 01:29.47 | Dessimat0r | OZ3.1 Beta still freezes when you unsuspend the Z in the cradle |
| 01:40.15 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 01:40.16 | TheMasterMind1 | joy |
| 01:44.36 | TheMasterMind1 | Dessimat0r: windows/linux/both? |
| 01:46.13 | Dessimat0r | windows |
| 01:46.20 | Dessimat0r | xp |
| 01:46.21 | Dessimat0r | ;) |
| 01:46.53 | DaWorm | yeah i get the freeze on windows too |
| 01:46.54 | Dessimat0r | had to do a power cycle using the switch at the back |
| 01:46.59 | Dessimat0r | to soft reset it |
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| 01:52.22 | ciaolinux | what is oz3.1 beta? http://www.tjhsst.edu/~agupta/unstable/flash? |
| 01:53.35 | matsavhalev | so how unstable is unstable??? |
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| 01:54.23 | Dessimat0r | ciaolinux: yes, or go back a dir for the actual feed. |
| 01:54.59 | ciaolinux | Dessimat0r: is the cf suspend/resume problem solved there? |
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| 01:59.27 | chouimat | hi DaJoker |
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| 02:00.48 | DaJoker | howdy chouimat |
| 02:04.48 | chouimat | DaJoker: not bad |
| 02:07.02 | NightStar | Hmm, I thought that the missing busybox udhcp example script thing was fixed.. |
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| 02:18.42 | matsavhalev | where do i get the qpe-base package from? |
| 02:23.15 | NightStar | What are you looking for? |
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| 02:28.39 | matsavhalev | to get hancomword installed on 3.1 beta.. |
| 02:29.33 | NightStar | The only way to get hancomwork installed on OZ is to use the old QTE/QPE libs from the sharp ROM :( |
| 02:29.54 | NightStar | s/hancomwork/hancomword/ |
| 02:31.30 | matsavhalev | i thought it was working properly without the libs in the 3.1 beta |
| 02:32.01 | NightStar | Hmm, not that I was aware of, but I might be out of touch then. |
| 02:33.00 | matsavhalev | NightStar: read it at http://www.zauruszone.farplanet.net/invboard/index.php?act=ST&f=11&t=4949&s=ecc351d755b26e1407a57ca10f66dbe7 |
| 02:34.28 | NightStar | Oh, that's great.. I'd like to pick his brain on what the problem was, I spend a bit of time looking at that. |
| 02:35.31 | NightStar | So what you are looking for is qt-embedded_2.3.4-5b_arm.ipk, then right? |
| 02:35.57 | matsavhalev | maybe? it says qpe-base is the required dependency |
| 02:36.44 | NightStar | I'm not aware of a OZ package by that name. |
| 02:37.11 | NightStar | There is an oz-base |
| 02:40.47 | matsavhalev | i found a qpe-base dummy on zaurii.com but it doesn't seem to work. |
| 02:41.25 | matsavhalev | sux because i am arguing with my flatmate oz vs sharp rom and if i can get all the stock apps working he will be defeated :-) |
| 02:41.55 | NightStar | I believe that under OZ, the QPE and QTE lib is part of qt-embedded |
| 02:42.09 | matsavhalev | i bet with him that they would all be working by christmastime, looks like i may still win! |
| 02:42.26 | matsavhalev | so i'll try and play around with that then |
| 02:42.28 | NightStar | Which specific app? |
| 02:42.31 | NightStar | apps? |
| 02:42.32 | ljp | they are working in opie cvs |
| 02:43.40 | matsavhalev | ljp: which files would i need to get opera and hancom word working? |
| 02:43.51 | ljp | hmm.. |
| 02:44.17 | ljp | not sure, either a preload lib or they shoudl just work. |
| 02:44.38 | ljp | sandman is the opie dev to ask.. |
| 02:44.49 | ljp | but he's asleep right now |
| 02:44.51 | NightStar | Arg. Now opie don't compile clean... |
| 02:45.18 | ljp | you'll need to apply any new patches to qte and compile everything again |
| 02:45.31 | matsavhalev | not good, no linux box |
| 02:45.53 | NightStar | Yea, I did that :) |
| 02:46.08 | NightStar | make[4]: *** [passwordbase_p.h] Segmentation fault |
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| 02:46.51 | robd | Hey! |
| 02:46.54 | NightStar | I'll try mpproper on qte |
| 02:47.21 | robd | Where can I find the source to the OpenZaurus rom? |
| 02:47.24 | robd | How can I build my own rom? |
| 02:47.33 | NightStar | ibot bk |
| 02:47.34 | | it has been said that bk is see bitkeeper or under a really crappy license |
| 02:47.46 | NightStar | ibot toolchain |
| 02:47.47 | | somebody said toolchain was at http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/Toolchains |
| 02:48.08 | robd | Hrm, anyone here know how I could use PicoGUI with the login prompt? |
| 02:48.13 | robd | I'm new to the Linux on a PDA |
| 02:48.17 | NightStar | ibt bk clone |
| 02:48.24 | NightStar | ibot bk clone |
| 02:48.25 | | NightStar: are you smoking crack? |
| 02:48.37 | NightStar | http://openzaurus.bkbits.net/buildroot |
| 02:48.54 | NightStar | robd: The best way is to use bitkeeper |
| 02:49.01 | robd | NightStar: eh? |
| 02:49.12 | robd | NightStar: Haven't heard of it yet, could you tell me a bit about it? |
| 02:49.25 | robd | NightStar: Is this for the PicoGUI thing or me screwing around with the ROM |
| 02:49.26 | NightStar | It's like CVS but better... |
| 02:49.34 | robd | NightStar: Hrm, thats cool |
| 02:49.49 | robd | NightStar: Where exactly is the source for the oz rom? |
| 02:49.55 | robd | NightStar: How is it turned into a rom? |
| 02:50.08 | robd | NightStar: Sorry about all the questions, couldn't find much help online... |
| 02:50.14 | NightStar | robd: take a look at http://openzaurus.bkbits.net/ |
| 02:50.30 | NightStar | you want buildroot |
| 02:50.50 | NightStar | You need bitkeeper to pull it down. |
| 02:51.07 | NightStar | You also need the toolchain to build it. |
| 02:51.17 | NightStar | ibot bitkeeper |
| 02:51.17 | | from memory, bitkeeper is at http://www.bitkeeper.com/ or at http://www.bitmover.com/ or hosted trees at http://www.bkbits.net/ or like cvs and subversion, but its non-opensource.. but its really good, even linus uses it to develop the kernel! |
| 02:51.32 | NightStar | ibot toolchain |
| 02:51.33 | | hmm... toolchain is at http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/Toolchains |
| 02:51.57 | NightStar | ibot buildroot |
| 02:51.58 | | well, buildroot is a cool system for building embedded root file systems and can be found at http://uclibc.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/buildroot/ or a heavily modified version used by the OpenZaurus project |
| 02:52.02 | robd | hrm |
| 02:52.06 | robd | thats pretty cool |
| 02:52.16 | robd | anyone know about the GUI stuff for the Zaurus? |
| 02:52.27 | robd | I'm gonna go tweak with my 5500 a little bit |
| 02:52.40 | NightStar | opie is build as part of OZ (if selected in the make menuconfig) |
| 02:52.42 | robd | thinking of selling it and waiting about a month for the 5600 (400mhz baby!) |
| 02:53.31 | NightStar | Opie CVS has a bit of a make problem at the moment. |
| 02:54.40 | robd | NightStar: Have you ever played with PicoGUI? |
| 02:54.48 | NightStar | No, I have not. |
| 02:54.50 | robd | I saw the screen shots on openzaurus.org and loved it |
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| 02:55.28 | robd | sorry about that |
| 02:56.46 | NightStar | Hmm, well, I gotta run... |
| 02:57.22 | robd | alright |
| 02:57.25 | robd | thanks for the help! |
| 02:57.42 | NightStar | NP |
| 03:29.00 | matsavhalev | does anyone know if i can use the 64-0 zimage with the 3.1 initrd.bin |
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| 03:36.40 | brontos | Any of you use opie-checkbook? |
| 03:37.40 | brontos | I can't seem to get my transactions to save... |
| 03:59.16 | chouimat|Zzzzz | night |
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| 04:15.59 | Onyx4 | I just commited more fixes to make the OZ buildroot work |
| 04:16.03 | Onyx4 | bk pull |
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| 04:42.32 | kergoth`out | ibot: toolchain is also http://openzaurus.org/official/toolchain/ |
| 04:42.33 | | okay, kergoth`out |
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| 06:40.36 | Davv | Past few hours have been dead on this channel. Everyone must be testing! :) |
| 07:01.45 | DaWorm | haha |
| 07:01.47 | DaWorm | well |
| 07:01.58 | Onyx4 | ibot: botmail for kergoth: test |
| 07:02.02 | DaWorm | its a bad time to go here |
| 07:03.00 | Onyx4 | ibot: botmail for kergoth: I don't know how enabled ifupdown in busybox, but it seems to have several problems compared to the regular ifupdown, plus the scripts are not provided by busybox either. I reverted back to using ifupdown until its more mature |
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| 07:42.40 | lsmith | hmm are problems holding back another unstable update? |
| 07:42.55 | lsmith | or different question |
| 07:43.07 | lsmith | what is the unstable tree that i should preferably test |
| 07:43.18 | lsmith | to help find problems ..? |
| 07:43.25 | lsmith | agupta's? |
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| 08:31.57 | Titeuf | hi |
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| 09:40.19 | mickeyl | moin |
| 09:40.39 | Dessimat0r | yo ;) |
| 09:47.11 | Dessimat0r | has anyone else noticed that Opie-Todo seems a bit... messed up.. on the latest unstable? |
| 09:47.39 | nobse | Dessimat0r: yes |
| 09:48.12 | nobse | overview is fine, creating a new entry looks not so good |
| 09:48.17 | Dessimat0r | yeah |
| 09:48.57 | Dessimat0r | WEll, overview is still slightly messed up, the column headers have a max length which goes off the page |
| 09:49.05 | Dessimat0r | max width, even |
| 09:49.35 | Dessimat0r | However, I must say that I do not mind this ;) |
| 09:49.43 | Dessimat0r | As it gives you more room to read the descriptipn |
| 09:49.49 | Dessimat0r | *description |
| 09:50.53 | nobse | What I don't like is, that opie-todo doesn't save the sort order on exit. |
| 09:51.09 | Dessimat0r | yeah |
| 10:04.57 | TheMasterMind1 | Wednesday, December 11: Fairfax County Public Schools will be closed today. All activities canceled. |
| 10:04.59 | TheMasterMind1 | HELL YEA |
| 10:05.27 | nobse | TheMasterMind1: your school? |
| 10:05.32 | TheMasterMind1 | yep |
| 10:05.34 | TheMasterMind1 | so whats new |
| 10:06.20 | nobse | TheMasterMind1: I still like your image. :) |
| 10:06.55 | nobse | TheMasterMind1: works great, except the problem with time on suspend, but calling hwclock by hand will fix it. |
| 10:06.55 | TheMasterMind1 | heheh |
| 10:07.02 | TheMasterMind1 | great |
| 10:07.09 | TheMasterMind1 | whats the problem with time on suspend |
| 10:07.50 | nobse | TheMasterMind1: time was lost, jumps back to 1.1.2002 6:nn, on suspend and reboot. kergoth meant, that this is a know problem, and already fixed. |
| 10:08.02 | TheMasterMind1 | gotcha |
| 10:08.09 | TheMasterMind1 | i doubt he fixed it |
| 10:08.10 | TheMasterMind1 | :) |
| 10:08.20 | TheMasterMind1 | he probably went out after work last night |
| 10:08.25 | nobse | hehe |
| 10:08.29 | TheMasterMind1 | i'll work on stuff today, got lots of time |
| 10:09.02 | nobse | TheMasterMind1: the other thing is, that the "battery critical" message pops up when the charger is connected. |
| 10:09.12 | nobse | TheMasterMind1: and opie-todo sucks, but thats an opie problem. |
| 10:10.45 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 10:10.54 | TheMasterMind1 | nobse: subit it on the opie bug page |
| 10:10.59 | TheMasterMind1 | opie.info/bugs |
| 10:11.02 | nobse | TheMasterMind1: already known |
| 10:11.07 | TheMasterMind1 | the todo thing |
| 10:11.48 | nobse | yes |
| 10:11.59 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm, i'll have time today to do some usb testing. might even boot into windows.. |
| 10:12.08 | nobse | iiieks :) |
| 10:12.18 | TheMasterMind1 | the things i do for OZ |
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| 10:17.43 | wembly | how do you do the ftp thingie for openzaurus on port 4242? |
| 10:17.49 | TheMasterMind1 | eh? |
| 10:17.58 | wembly | did they change the password for the root user or somesuch? |
| 10:18.01 | wembly | you know |
| 10:18.01 | TheMasterMind1 | go to security, change it |
| 10:18.03 | TheMasterMind1 | pass is rootme |
| 10:18.04 | wembly | ftp to port 4242? |
| 10:18.07 | wembly | k |
| 10:18.08 | wembly | user? |
| 10:18.10 | wembly | root? |
| 10:18.12 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 10:18.29 | TheMasterMind1 | anyways, i'm off to bed again. still 5am, just wanted to check if schools were closed yet :) |
| 10:18.35 | wembly | thank you |
| 10:18.42 | mickeyl | good night tmm |
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| 10:37.41 | nobse | TheMasterMind1: what is ADS-BASE? |
| 10:38.50 | nobse | how long does the buildroot need to compile? |
| 10:38.56 | nobse | hours? days? |
| 10:39.06 | mickeyl | TheMasterMind1: still there? |
| 10:39.44 | mickeyl | how can i use MAKE to make only one opie package? On the top level OZ, I can use SUBDIRS - any idea if this also applies to the Opie subsystem build? |
| 10:45.33 | Dessimat0r | <TheMasterMind1> anyways, i'm off to bed again. still 5am, just wanted to check if schools were closed yet :) |
| 10:46.10 | nobse | argh :) |
| 10:46.50 | nobse | haven't seen |
| 10:49.00 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 10:49.11 | Dessimat0r | http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/12/11/0229222&mode=thread&tid=97&threshold=-1 |
| 10:49.25 | Dessimat0r | My post is 1st again :D |
| 10:50.32 | Dessimat0r | If you are wondering, I replaced all instances of 'he' with Cmdr. Taco ;) |
| 10:51.19 | nobse | hehehe |
| 10:52.19 | Dessimat0r | excellent, another -1, Troll |
| 10:57.59 | nobse | Hmm... there is a loop when compiling the kernel in the buildroot. Its compiling the kernel again and again. |
| 11:01.47 | nobse | ah, I see in the log, mickeyl hat the same problem... |
| 11:02.23 | nobse | argh... not a problem |
| 11:03.31 | nobse | mickeyl: where can I disable some images? |
| 11:03.43 | mickeyl | nobse: make menuconfig and disable what you don't want |
| 11:03.57 | nobse | mickeyl: ah, too easy... thx :) |
| 11:03.59 | mickeyl | :) |
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| 12:01.46 | Dilb | lo |
| 12:09.31 | Twiun | afternoon |
| 12:09.52 | Dessimat0r | y0 |
| 12:12.21 | nobse | cd /home/tretkowski/openzaurus/buildroot/buildroot-oz/build/uicmoc-2.3.4-beta2; echo yes | ./configure -depths 8,16 -xplatform linux-generic-g++ -no-qvfb -no-g++-exceptions -system-jpeg -system-zlib -system-libpng -no-vnc -no-xft -static |
| 12:12.25 | nobse | /bin/sh: cd: /home/tretkowski/openzaurus/buildroot/buildroot-oz/build/uicmoc-2.3.4-beta2: No such file or directory |
| 12:12.28 | nobse | /bin/sh: ./configure: No such file or directory |
| 12:12.31 | nobse | make[2]: *** [/home/tretkowski/openzaurus/buildroot/buildroot-oz/stamps/.uicmoc.binary] Error 127 |
| 12:12.34 | nobse | uh? |
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| 12:22.27 | Dilb | bbl |
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| 12:33.49 | mickeyl | nobse: bk pull; uicmoc just has been worked on IMHO |
| 12:33.58 | mickeyl | kergoth: ping |
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| 12:41.07 | Piete | Hello! |
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| 12:49.14 | nobse | mickeyl: I have updated my buildroot a few hours ago... make prproper did the trick. |
| 12:49.30 | Piete | Cloudchaser! How are you? |
| 12:52.13 | Piete | yaay! its -7 (Celsius) outside. brrrr |
| 12:52.37 | nobse | Piete: -9 here |
| 12:53.44 | Twiun | hehe, cozy 3C here |
| 12:54.53 | nobse | I hate winter. And summer. |
| 12:55.23 | nobse | too hot, too cold, baeh |
| 12:57.31 | Cloudchaser | 'mornin..doing ok here.. just woke up |
| 12:58.06 | Piete | nobse: my B-day is 05-05, so I almost always have nice weather :) |
| 12:58.13 | Piete | *on my birthday |
| 12:58.41 | nobse | Piete: I have at the end of september, also almost nice weather :) |
| 13:00.03 | Piete | hehe |
| 13:02.14 | nobse | hmm... cvs checkout of busybox hangs after umount.c |
| 13:04.43 | nobse | 04:03 < kergoth> * You need the CVS program version 1.11.2, we had report of problems |
| 13:04.46 | nobse | 04:03 < kergoth> with earlier versions such as hanging while checking out repositories. |
| 13:04.50 | nobse | argh |
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| 14:01.39 | nobse | wellenreiter (WELLENREITER) [Y/n] (NEW) |
| 14:01.42 | nobse | whats that? |
| 14:04.18 | nobse | make QMAKE=/home/tretkowski/openzaurus/buildroot/buildroot-oz/build/opie/qmake/qmake -C library |
| 14:04.22 | nobse | make[4]: Entering directory `/home/tretkowski/openzaurus/buildroot/buildroot-oz/build/opie/library' |
| 14:04.24 | nobse | /home/tretkowski/openzaurus/buildroot/buildroot-oz/build/qt-2.3.4-beta2/bin/uic passwordbase_p.ui -o passwordbase_p.h |
| 14:04.27 | nobse | make[4]: *** [passwordbase_p.h] Segmentation fault |
| 14:04.30 | nobse | help! :) |
| 14:04.33 | nobse | YAY! |
| 14:05.45 | nobse | copied /usr/bin/uic to buildroot, lets see... |
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| 14:07.34 | mickeyl | nobse: it always pays to have a static uic somewhere around ;) |
| 14:08.07 | nobse | mickeyl: looks like, the binary from the debian package will work |
| 14:08.46 | nobse | there is an entry in the faq |
| 14:13.02 | Piete | heya DaJoker |
| 14:13.15 | DaJoker | morning Piete |
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| 14:14.34 | nobse | another problem, same solution |
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| 14:35.16 | nobse | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tretkowski/openzaurus/buildroot/buildroot-oz' |
| 14:35.21 | nobse | yiiiieha, done :)) |
| 14:36.35 | nobse | oerks... initrd wasn't build |
| 14:39.18 | Onyx4 | morning |
| 14:42.37 | nobse | hi onyx |
| 14:47.23 | TheMasterMind1 | wassup |
| 14:47.29 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: so whats this about busybox ifupdown |
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| 14:49.13 | Piete | Nite guys :) |
| 14:49.16 | nobse | TheMasterMind1: What do I need to do to get a initrd image? |
| 14:49.17 | Cloudchaser | 'mornin ljp |
| 14:49.18 | TheMasterMind1 | later |
| 14:49.22 | TheMasterMind1 | nobse: eh? |
| 14:49.27 | Onyx4 | well it doesn't seem to support everything that we need that the regular ifupdown does |
| 14:49.28 | Cloudchaser | 'night piete |
| 14:49.34 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: like? |
| 14:49.37 | Onyx4 | plus all the networking scripts aren't in busybox |
| 14:49.47 | nobse | TheMasterMind1: packages where built, zImage also, but the initrd is missing |
| 14:49.50 | Onyx4 | it barfs on good syntax in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 14:50.05 | TheMasterMind1 | nobse: type make image |
| 14:50.13 | nobse | TheMasterMind1: argh :) |
| 14:50.22 | Onyx4 | i still can't get networking to work, did the format of wireless.opts changed? |
| 14:50.26 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: networking scripts probably didn't get included in the ipk, you have to make sure they are |
| 14:50.28 | nobse | TheMasterMind1: should be added to the faq |
| 14:50.31 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: i don't think so |
| 14:50.34 | TheMasterMind1 | nobse: one sec, dont' do that yet |
| 14:50.43 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: I moved them manually, and I still had problems |
| 14:50.44 | TheMasterMind1 | nobse: first copy def-configs/openzaurus-image to .config |
| 14:50.58 | Onyx4 | ifupdown also supports the hotplug usb stuff, so we there's lots of things here |
| 14:51.03 | nobse | TheMasterMind1: ok |
| 14:51.12 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: alright |
| 14:51.15 | Onyx4 | I had problems where it would hold busy the interface , wasn't able to eject it |
| 14:51.18 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: did you notice the CF issue with your intird? |
| 14:51.35 | Onyx4 | haven't tried yet, trying to get wifi to work first |
| 14:51.39 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 14:51.49 | Onyx4 | I restored my old wireless.opts I had with OZ 3.1, but it doesn't work |
| 14:51.50 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm, where's kergoth? |
| 14:52.14 | TheMasterMind1 | i think i'll just make an initrd and stuff and put it in unofficial as oz3.1pre1 |
| 14:52.29 | TheMasterMind1 | and get those ZZ guys to test |
| 14:53.46 | JasonNJ | mastermind: so you are doing all the packaging now? |
| 14:53.48 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: what all do i need to mrproper |
| 14:54.01 | TheMasterMind1 | JasonNJ: hm, no not really |
| 14:54.31 | TheMasterMind1 | i do a lot of unofficial releases and testing stuff |
| 14:54.41 | JasonNJ | ah ok |
| 14:55.22 | nobse | TheMasterMind1: That means, I use def-configs/openzaurus for building kernel and packages, and def-configs/openzaurus-image for building the initrd? |
| 14:55.29 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: what? |
| 14:55.36 | TheMasterMind1 | nobse: yes |
| 14:55.40 | nobse | TheMasterMind1: ok, thx |
| 14:55.40 | JasonNJ | damn database connection errors |
| 14:55.49 | JasonNJ | I hope we resolve this bullshit today |
| 14:56.01 | JasonNJ | community.zaurus.com is supposed to launch tomorrow |
| 14:56.06 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: what all has changed in the last two days that i need to mrproper and build again |
| 14:58.27 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: hmm, the udhcpc location thing is just in /usr/sbin with new busybox. it was us reverting to old that screwed it up |
| 14:59.34 | TheMasterMind1 | nobse: everything in your buildroot built fine? |
| 14:59.55 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: yeah I saw that, but if someone just updates busybox and not ifupdown they might run into it |
| 15:00.01 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: so it's just a safety |
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| 15:01.25 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: gotcha |
| 15:01.55 | Onyx4 | what I don't like is that udhcpc is exiting at start if it can't find a lease |
| 15:02.03 | Onyx4 | it should be more persistent like dhcpcd |
| 15:02.06 | TheMasterMind1 | yea, noticed that |
| 15:02.07 | Onyx4 | and stay in ram |
| 15:02.21 | Onyx4 | I can't seem to get a dhcp lease, maybe I made a mistake in my wep key |
| 15:02.23 | TheMasterMind1 | maybe there's an option to make it? |
| 15:02.30 | Onyx4 | maybe, doubt it |
| 15:02.42 | nobse | TheMasterMind1: yeah, looks good, I had a problem with uic, could fix this by copying /usr/bin/uic to the buildroot. |
| 15:04.35 | Onyx4 | yeah my uic core dumps too |
| 15:04.38 | Onyx4 | I had to use my qt uic |
| 15:05.00 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 15:05.01 | nobse | TheMasterMind1: Can you add "def-configs/openzaurus-image" and "make image" as points 7 and 8 to faq entry 84? |
| 15:05.11 | TheMasterMind1 | nobse: hmm, ok |
| 15:05.18 | nobse | "cp def-configs/openzaurus-image .config" even |
| 15:05.24 | nobse | TheMasterMind1: thx :) |
| 15:06.37 | Onyx4 | ok wireless works now |
| 15:06.43 | Onyx4 | the format of wireless.opts changed I guess |
| 15:06.50 | TheMasterMind1 | nobse: done. |
| 15:06.55 | Onyx4 | and what used to work in my wireless.opts , networksetup doesn't like it |
| 15:07.02 | nobse | TheMasterMind1: :) |
| 15:07.06 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: yea i saw that, its weird |
| 15:07.12 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: i submitted a bug on mantis |
| 15:07.22 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: can you add a note to it about what changed in the format etc |
| 15:07.26 | TheMasterMind1 | i didn't give any details |
| 15:07.49 | prpplague | anyone else feel totaly helpless when reading these DMCA cases? |
| 15:08.37 | *** part/#openzaurus roge99_ (~roge99@dhcp086-55-151-24.wl01-c4.cpe.charter-ne.com) |
| 15:09.44 | Onyx4 | now it doesn't want to use quotes around the parameters like the ESSID name |
| 15:09.54 | TheMasterMind1 | what doesn't want to? |
| 15:09.56 | TheMasterMind1 | network setup? |
| 15:10.04 | Onyx4 | and it seems to want to put two types of wep keys parameters |
| 15:10.21 | Onyx4 | one called KEY="928928392 open" and another with the same key called KEY0=" " |
| 15:10.24 | TheMasterMind1 | http://www.opie.info/mantis/view_bug_page.php?f_id=0000516 |
| 15:10.25 | Onyx4 | it's strange |
| 15:10.43 | TheMasterMind1 | add to that |
| 15:11.18 | benmeyer | yah |
| 15:11.44 | benmeyer | it is to signify what the 4 keys are |
| 15:12.08 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 15:12.11 | TheMasterMind1 | benmeyer: ! |
| 15:12.12 | TheMasterMind1 | heheh |
| 15:12.22 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: $(makecmd) -C $(SourceTree) prefix=$(STAGING_DIR)/usr install; is in php's staging |
| 15:12.59 | Onyx4 | i dont use php feel free to clean up |
| 15:13.07 | Onyx4 | if there are no libs we dont need staging |
| 15:13.29 | TheMasterMind1 | yea i don't think we need staging |
| 15:13.55 | TheMasterMind1 | agupta@hubris:~/zaurus/buildroot$ ls output/staging/usr/include/ |
| 15:13.55 | TheMasterMind1 | SDL iwlib.h libelf net pcap-namedb.h php rfb.h |
| 15:13.55 | TheMasterMind1 | gelf.h keysym.h libelf.h nlist.h pcap.h readline rfbproto.h |
| 15:14.16 | TheMasterMind1 | i think pcap is fixed |
| 15:14.31 | TheMasterMind1 | so is readline |
| 15:14.35 | TheMasterMind1 | so is sdl |
| 15:14.37 | TheMasterMind1 | what's net/ |
| 15:14.52 | Onyx4 | in what pkg? |
| 15:14.58 | TheMasterMind1 | dunno, its just there in include |
| 15:15.08 | Onyx4 | there should be net/bpf.h |
| 15:15.09 | Onyx4 | for libpcap |
| 15:15.25 | Onyx4 | if not tcpdump will fail |
| 15:15.28 | TheMasterMind1 | yep, so that's fixed |
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| 15:16.07 | TheMasterMind1 | and you fixed kismet right? |
| 15:16.16 | TheMasterMind1 | what about sdl-config, is taht fixed |
| 15:16.54 | Onyx4 | yep |
| 15:17.01 | Onyx4 | now all SDL compiles fine |
| 15:17.06 | TheMasterMind1 | great, so all this is fixed |
| 15:17.06 | Onyx4 | with the right prefix |
| 15:17.24 | Onyx4 | everything that is turned on in my .config is confirmed to be fixed at least for compiling |
| 15:17.29 | TheMasterMind1 | great |
| 15:17.42 | Onyx4 | now i'm trying to move /opt to SD |
| 15:17.55 | TheMasterMind1 | why? |
| 15:18.16 | Onyx4 | cause I like to have a single package list |
| 15:18.24 | Onyx4 | makes it easier to upgrade all the time |
| 15:18.28 | Onyx4 | not having to deal with ipkg-link |
| 15:18.37 | Onyx4 | cause I use mostly just ipkg from cmdline |
| 15:18.50 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 15:18.51 | Onyx4 | and when new files are installed, you need to make sure ipkg-link gets run |
| 15:20.54 | Onyx4 | my clock didn't seem to stay, the date was correct, but time has shifted |
| 15:21.06 | TheMasterMind1 | build from when |
| 15:21.12 | Onyx4 | last night |
| 15:21.15 | TheMasterMind1 | i think kergoth fixed that last night with a hwclock thing |
| 15:21.16 | TheMasterMind1 | not sure |
| 15:21.17 | TheMasterMind1 | nobse: aroudn? |
| 15:21.21 | TheMasterMind1 | ask nobse about it |
| 15:21.37 | nobse | Onyx4: call hwclock once by hand to set it |
| 15:21.56 | TheMasterMind1 | how was kergoth going to fix that? |
| 15:21.58 | Onyx4 | and that will fix it for good? |
| 15:22.00 | TheMasterMind1 | i forget |
| 15:22.07 | nobse | Onyx4: yes... hwclock --systohc |
| 15:22.15 | nobse | Onyx4: fixed it for me |
| 15:23.03 | Onyx4 | is the HW in GMT? |
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| 15:23.10 | nobse | Onyx4: yes |
| 15:23.12 | TheMasterMind1 | ljp: did you change systeminfo |
| 15:23.13 | Onyx4 | ok |
| 15:23.27 | TheMasterMind1 | hm, so how do we automate that |
| 15:23.42 | TheMasterMind1 | we can have apmd call that everytime it suspend/resumes |
| 15:24.06 | nobse | TheMasterMind1: its enough to do it when setting the time |
| 15:24.20 | nobse | IMHO |
| 15:24.21 | TheMasterMind1 | so how do we do it. |
| 15:24.33 | ljp_work | can cat hit the power button on my firewall |
| 15:24.33 | nobse | no idea =) |
| 15:24.41 | ljp_work | damn cat, not can cat |
| 15:24.46 | nobse | I never take a look into opie source. |
| 15:24.49 | mrz80 | Woot! 2.4.21-pre1 is out, and contains the "usbnet talks to Zaurus" patch |
| 15:24.55 | TheMasterMind1 | mrz80: sweeet |
| 15:25.03 | nobse | mrz80: wow :) |
| 15:25.26 | Dessimat0r | is Opie-Todo unfux0red yet? |
| 15:25.34 | chouimat|coffee | ljp_work: hehe |
| 15:25.38 | Onyx4 | it seems to work here |
| 15:26.01 | ljp_work | halfway through an iso download too |
| 15:26.01 | Dessimat0r | Opie-Todo was messed up on the 'add new task' bit |
| 15:26.53 | chouimat|coffee | ljp_work: ouch! which iso? XP? |
| 15:26.58 | TheMasterMind1 | lol |
| 15:27.37 | chouimat|coffee | methink a coffee will be a good idea |
| 15:28.12 | ljp_work | no, demudi |
| 15:28.26 | chouimat|coffee | demudi?? |
| 15:28.33 | ljp_work | www.demudi.org |
| 15:28.41 | ljp_work | debian music dist |
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| 15:28.51 | ljp_work | funded by EU |
| 15:29.20 | Dessimat0r | heh, that website looks like pure cack ;) |
| 15:29.24 | TheMasterMind1 | make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/agupta/zaurus/buildroot/packages/oz-base' |
| 15:29.24 | TheMasterMind1 | /bin/sh: line 1: [: missing `]' |
| 15:29.24 | TheMasterMind1 | make[2]: Entering directory `/home/agupta/zaurus/buildroot/packages/uicmoc' |
| 15:29.25 | TheMasterMind1 | wtf? |
| 15:29.28 | TheMasterMind1 | something's wrong |
| 15:29.42 | TheMasterMind1 | what does it try to do after oz-base |
| 15:29.55 | nobse | TheMasterMind1: only when calling make clean... i ignored that :) |
| 15:30.34 | TheMasterMind1 | i make'd and its doings that |
| 15:30.37 | TheMasterMind1 | won't build opie and stuff ro me |
| 15:30.51 | nobse | uh |
| 15:31.35 | TheMasterMind1 | grr |
| 15:33.48 | ljp_work | http://www.agnula.org/ |
| 15:35.15 | Dessimat0r | Is it possible to write a program in Windows using Delphi, then compile it for the Zaurus? |
| 15:35.28 | Dessimat0r | I know Delphi has Kylix for Linux |
| 15:37.37 | nobse | Dessimat0r: uh... what drugs have you taken? :) |
| 15:38.09 | TheMasterMind1 | ARGH |
| 15:39.08 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 15:39.48 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: wake up |
| 15:40.24 | ljp_work | damn.. hit my head, and crocked my neck on the ceiling when I went down to the firewall room.. ehh |
| 15:40.44 | jmhodges | hheheh |
| 15:40.57 | chouimat|coffee | ljp_work: hehe |
| 15:41.45 | JasonNJ | man my back hurts |
| 15:41.51 | JasonNJ | I think I slept the wrong way |
| 15:42.04 | JasonNJ | I feel like I have a dagger stabbed in my back |
| 15:42.07 | Onyx4 | why is ipkg and everything in verbose mode now? |
| 15:42.15 | chouimat|coffee | JasonNJ: you're not alone in this condition |
| 15:42.27 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: my buildroot isn't build opie/qte stuff |
| 15:42.41 | TheMasterMind1 | wtf, how did opie get turned off |
| 15:42.42 | JasonNJ | and I spent all this money on an expensive bed too |
| 15:42.47 | chouimat|coffee | Onyx4: very verbose |
| 15:43.03 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: did you mrproper both? |
| 15:43.11 | JasonNJ | I bought one of those Select Comfort suckers for like $3000 |
| 15:43.24 | JasonNJ | those adjustable mattresses with the air pumps |
| 15:43.53 | Cloudchaser | doesn't sound like its working ;( |
| 15:44.05 | chouimat|coffee | JasonNJ: ok. I have a 10 years old mattresses and since I move quite a lot the mattresse need to be changed but not now |
| 15:44.06 | JasonNJ | well, I fall asleep real fast on it |
| 15:44.12 | JasonNJ | maybe i have it set wrong |
| 15:44.47 | JasonNJ | that or my freakin chair at work sucks |
| 15:44.55 | JasonNJ | which is the very likely source of the problem |
| 15:45.12 | ljp_work | try sleeping on the floor |
| 15:45.24 | JasonNJ | yeah my wife will appreciate tht |
| 15:45.31 | ljp_work | hehe :) |
| 15:45.38 | Cloudchaser | hehe can't kick her from the floor |
| 15:45.42 | Cloudchaser | she might like that |
| 15:45.53 | JasonNJ | she has her side of the mattress turned up to rock hard |
| 15:45.57 | JasonNJ | mine is at like 50 pecent |
| 15:46.10 | Cloudchaser | soudns like a neat bed |
| 15:46.16 | JasonNJ | t is |
| 15:46.22 | Onyx4 | mmm the libsdl-mixer and libsdl-net package won't install because it doesn't find just "libsdl" but I put that in the provides line of libsdl1.2qte |
| 15:46.23 | Onyx4 | weird |
| 15:46.24 | JasonNJ | it is, a lot of NFL players sleep on em |
| 15:46.30 | Cloudchaser | hey.. did you ever get your kitchen finished? |
| 15:46.46 | JasonNJ | yes |
| 15:46.54 | Cloudchaser | :) |
| 15:46.55 | JasonNJ | http://www.selectcomfort.com/ |
| 15:47.08 | TheMasterMind1 | grr, fucking pos |
| 15:47.42 | Cloudchaser | i wonder if there's any 5000 bargains on ebay |
| 15:47.58 | Cloudchaser | i was going to get my son one of those 99.00 palms |
| 15:48.08 | Cloudchaser | but that just goes against the grain with me |
| 15:48.23 | chouimat|coffee | JasonNJ: too hard bed and too soft one are not for me |
| 15:48.34 | Twiun | rehi |
| 15:48.52 | Cloudchaser | hiya twiun :) |
| 15:48.55 | JasonNJ | cloud: the 8 meg ones are like 99 bucks |
| 15:48.56 | ljp_work | ya, those cheap palms dont have serial ports so you cant load linux on it |
| 15:48.57 | chouimat|coffee | Cloudchaser: the zire? |
| 15:48.58 | JasonNJ | last years models |
| 15:49.06 | ljp_work | get him a better one |
| 15:49.22 | Cloudchaser | chouimat|coffee: yep |
| 15:49.24 | Twiun | Cloudchaser: went to buy a depilator at the gf's command ;-) |
| 15:49.24 | JasonNJ | to be perfectly honest most human beings dont need a Zaurus or a pocket pc |
| 15:49.30 | chouimat|coffee | ljp: I can install linux on my m125 but I need a prcloader |
| 15:49.43 | Twiun | most people don't qualify as human beings though ;-) |
| 15:49.43 | ljp_work | walgreens has calander things for 29.00 |
| 15:49.44 | JasonNJ | Twiun: that had to be a humilating experience |
| 15:49.50 | Cloudchaser | ljp: i'm on a srioud budget this year ;( |
| 15:49.59 | JasonNJ | but not as bad as being sent out to get maxi pads or tampons though |
| 15:50.02 | ljp_work | goto walgreens |
| 15:50.02 | Cloudchaser | doesn't look like i'm going to get a job from santa |
| 15:50.04 | chouimat|coffee | JasonNJ: yup, a rolodex and a good calendar |
| 15:50.16 | Cloudchaser | er thats "serious" budget |
| 15:50.23 | Twiun | JasonNJ: only a little bit... people don't tend to make trouble for me... bear+glases+furious look of disdain shut them up ;-) |
| 15:50.35 | Twiun | JasonNJ: lol, tempons are nothing |
| 15:50.51 | Twiun | s/bear/beard/ |
| 15:51.01 | Twiun | still have semi-frozen fingers |
| 15:51.05 | Cloudchaser | hehe |
| 15:51.07 | JasonNJ | twiun: well, I guess in england it might not be as humiliating an experience |
| 15:51.15 | JasonNJ | and besides, you are french |
| 15:51.25 | Cloudchaser | ljp: is there a newer inexpensive palm i should look for? |
| 15:51.34 | ljp_work | oh.. I doubt it. |
| 15:51.39 | JasonNJ | FIVE HOURS? |
| 15:51.46 | chouimat|coffee | JasonNJ: yup |
| 15:51.59 | JasonNJ | jesus what did you do for 5 hours? |
| 15:52.03 | Cloudchaser | lol |
| 15:52.03 | ljp_work | uh huh.. were you hiding in the changing rooms? |
| 15:52.10 | Twiun | Hahahaha |
| 15:52.10 | Cloudchaser | watched her try them all on? |
| 15:52.12 | chouimat|coffee | JasonNJ: read Elric series |
| 15:52.40 | Cloudchaser | hmm theres a 5000 for 76.00 on ebay |
| 15:52.50 | JasonNJ | dont get a 5000 |
| 15:52.57 | JasonNJ | wait a 5000D? |
| 15:52.58 | chouimat|coffee | and the sales staff where all ugly :( |
| 15:53.02 | JasonNJ | not a palmpilot 5000 |
| 15:53.12 | Cloudchaser | a 5000d zaurus |
| 15:53.19 | JasonNJ | holy cow that is cheap |
| 15:53.31 | TheMasterMind1 | heh, won't stay that way |
| 15:53.33 | Cloudchaser | i wish i could afford a 5500 for him...but not without a job |
| 15:53.40 | chouimat|coffee | JasonNJ: maybe someone who get it from the challenge |
| 15:53.45 | JasonNJ | the 5000 is not to shabby |
| 15:53.52 | ljp_work | or its borked |
| 15:53.53 | JasonNJ | especially with OZ on it |
| 15:53.58 | TheMasterMind1 | :) |
| 15:54.15 | Cloudchaser | well reserve isn't met yet |
| 15:54.20 | Twiun | yup... give it a 32-0 rom image and it's cool |
| 15:54.23 | Cloudchaser | so i'd guess it will go over 100.00 |
| 15:54.24 | Onyx4 | BTW I didn't know this, but ipkg requires the control line to have "," in between the dependancies |
| 15:54.28 | Onyx4 | or provides |
| 15:54.36 | Onyx4 | like libc, ncurses |
| 15:54.37 | Twiun | JasonNJ: managed to run 3 copies of wonka before opie started complaining ;-) |
| 15:54.38 | TheMasterMind1 | WAHT!? |
| 15:54.43 | TheMasterMind1 | provides only or deps too |
| 15:54.45 | JasonNJ | I dunno when my wife goes shopping we go to the mall, and I hang out in the software stores and dvd store |
| 15:54.50 | Onyx4 | not deps |
| 15:54.51 | Onyx4 | just provides |
| 15:54.52 | TheMasterMind1 | that might explain why all the freaking deps aren't working |
| 15:54.53 | TheMasterMind1 | oh.. |
| 15:54.54 | TheMasterMind1 | hm |
| 15:54.58 | TheMasterMind1 | bleh |
| 15:55.00 | Onyx4 | well maybe deps too |
| 15:55.02 | Onyx4 | but at least for SDL |
| 15:55.09 | TheMasterMind1 | i'll check |
| 15:55.16 | Onyx4 | I put= provides = libsdl12 libsdl libSDL |
| 15:55.19 | Onyx4 | and it would not find the libsdl |
| 15:55.23 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 15:55.26 | Onyx4 | until i added a , in between |
| 15:55.35 | Onyx4 | busybox has , |
| 15:55.41 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 15:55.51 | TheMasterMind1 | agupta@hubris:~/zaurus/buildroot$ ./scripts/dupecheck output/ipks/ |
| 15:55.52 | TheMasterMind1 | Moved old file: output/ipks/kismet_2.6.2-1d_arm.ipk (output/ipks/./kismet_2.6.2-2_arm.ipk is newer) |
| 15:55.52 | TheMasterMind1 | Moved old file: output/ipks/libpcap0_0.7.1-2_arm.ipk (output/ipks/./libpcap0_0.7.1-3_arm.ipk is newer) |
| 15:55.57 | TheMasterMind1 | greatest script ever |
| 15:57.06 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: ! |
| 15:58.04 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: any idea when/where we can call hwclock? |
| 15:58.31 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: we need to call hwclock on shutdown to sync the clocks, in case the user sets it and reboots without ever suspending. |
| 15:58.47 | TheMasterMind1 | the great kergoth has come |
| 15:58.54 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: we'd have to maybe do it from the clock setting program |
| 15:58.54 | kergoth | morning guys |
| 15:58.54 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: gotcha |
| 15:59.07 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: no school today, so i got all day to fix shit |
| 15:59.08 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: or at shutdown yeah |
| 15:59.11 | Twiun | kergoth: yo |
| 15:59.15 | kergoth | nice |
| 15:59.24 | kergoth | Onyx4: our clocks are synced up on suspend by opiealarm |
| 15:59.32 | kergoth | Onyx4: but the shutdown without suspending case will lose their time |
| 15:59.39 | kergoth | until we ensure that happens |
| 15:59.49 | TheMasterMind1 | alright, what other issues do we have |
| 15:59.55 | Onyx4 | kergoth: well on my Z, I suspended, resumed this morning, it was still the right day, but time was off by like couple of hours |
| 15:59.56 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm going to boot into windows and do some usb stuff |
| 15:59.59 | TheMasterMind1 | see if i can figure out anything |
| 16:00.08 | kergoth | Onyx4: works flawless here |
| 16:00.15 | Onyx4 | I wonder if the timezone stuff has something to do with it, but I'll keep an eye on it |
| 16:00.18 | kergoth | Onyx4: how many hours? could be just a timezone issue. |
| 16:00.42 | TheMasterMind1 | wellenreiter (WELLENREITER) [Y/n] (NEW) |
| 16:00.46 | TheMasterMind1 | opie has wellenreiter now? |
| 16:01.09 | ljp_work | it has for a while |
| 16:01.18 | Onyx4 | kergoth: yeah it sounded like my clock was in UTC |
| 16:01.22 | kergoth | Onyx4: 'date' |
| 16:01.25 | kergoth | Onyx4: 'hwclock' |
| 16:01.26 | kergoth | Onyx4: compare. |
| 16:01.28 | kergoth | Onyx4: :) |
| 16:01.40 | Onyx4 | well it's too late now, I already set the time with hwclock hehe |
| 16:01.41 | kergoth | Onyx4: your clock is kept in UTC right now |
| 16:01.49 | Onyx4 | I noticed that |
| 16:01.59 | kergoth | thats not aproblem though |
| 16:02.04 | kergoth | as the timezone is set in userspace |
| 16:02.11 | Onyx4 | ok |
| 16:02.36 | TheMasterMind1 | stuipd uic still segfaults |
| 16:02.39 | TheMasterMind1 | sigh.. |
| 16:02.40 | kergoth | yep |
| 16:02.43 | kergoth | annoying as hell |
| 16:02.54 | TheMasterMind1 | i don't have uic on this box |
| 16:02.58 | kergoth | nor do i |
| 16:03.16 | Dessimat0r | http://free-root.com/ |
| 16:03.35 | Onyx4 | mmm my god, gdb is 2mb? |
| 16:03.49 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:03.56 | Onyx4 | guess I won't keep that |
| 16:04.07 | TheMasterMind1 | Dessimat0r: that's awful |
| 16:04.13 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i still cant reproduce the sd or cf suspend/resume issues |
| 16:04.15 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 16:04.22 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: i think tik's on crack |
| 16:04.26 | kergoth | Onyx4: did you see the cf suspend/resume/stop/start with a recent rom? |
| 16:04.27 | Dessimat0r | yeah, 500 clicks a month |
| 16:04.33 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: hehe |
| 16:04.34 | Dessimat0r | or you have to pay |
| 16:04.35 | Dessimat0r | pff |
| 16:04.41 | TheMasterMind1 | /home/agupta/zaurus/buildroot/build/qt-2.3.4-beta2/bin/uic: error while loading shared libraries: libkdecore.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 16:04.42 | TheMasterMind1 | aw fuck |
| 16:04.45 | kergoth | lol |
| 16:05.00 | Onyx4 | kergoth: I am about to test now, finishing to install packages I need |
| 16:05.04 | Onyx4 | kergoth: I just moved /opt to my SD |
| 16:05.09 | Onyx4 | kergoth: seems good so far |
| 16:05.17 | Onyx4 | kergoth: now it's stuck at installingg gdb |
| 16:05.30 | Onyx4 | jffs2 barfs on big files |
| 16:05.38 | kergoth | doesnt barf, it hangs |
| 16:05.40 | kergoth | we need a new kernel |
| 16:05.45 | kergoth | but thats after the 3.1 release |
| 16:05.46 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:05.49 | Onyx4 | heh |
| 16:06.13 | kergoth | #0 0x08080f23 in QGDict::unlink_ascii () |
| 16:06.13 | kergoth | #1 0x08081146 in QGDict::remove_ascii () |
| 16:06.18 | TheMasterMind1 | fun |
| 16:06.19 | Onyx4 | ok I just pushed some packaging fixes for SDL |
| 16:06.28 | Onyx4 | now the provides and deps work fine |
| 16:06.50 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 16:07.09 | kergoth | oh you just learned about the , seperator? |
| 16:07.10 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:07.15 | Onyx4 | yes |
| 16:07.24 | TheMasterMind1 | does depends need that too? |
| 16:07.28 | kergoth | note that most of our packages use it properly. |
| 16:07.33 | kergoth | including ssh, ncurses, etc |
| 16:07.36 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: yes, afaik |
| 16:07.40 | TheMasterMind1 | hm |
| 16:07.43 | TheMasterMind1 | that might explain some things |
| 16:08.10 | kergoth | fucking uic is crashing in QGDict |
| 16:08.10 | kergoth | wtf |
| 16:08.53 | chouimat|coffee | morning kergoth |
| 16:10.47 | *** join/#openzaurus Onyx4|Z (onyx4@adsl-63-194-216-219.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 16:10.49 | kergoth | hey chouimat|coffee |
| 16:10.56 | Onyx4|Z | yay |
| 16:11.12 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: you going to do that hwclock shutdown script? |
| 16:11.13 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:11.16 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: yep |
| 16:11.19 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 16:11.29 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: thats the only thing holding up 3.1rc1, i wanted the clock stuff straightened out |
| 16:11.37 | TheMasterMind1 | yep |
| 16:11.52 | Onyx4 | kergoth: the wireless settings in networksetup seems to act quite odd, especially with an old wireless.opts |
| 16:12.21 | TheMasterMind1 | yea, can we patch the default wireless.opts |
| 16:12.39 | TheMasterMind1 | cuz ben's busy and it'll take him a while to fix networksetup |
| 16:12.59 | kergoth | define 'odd' |
| 16:13.07 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: doesn't like quotes in the wireless.opts file |
| 16:13.20 | kergoth | thats pretty fucking stupid. |
| 16:13.26 | TheMasterMind1 | :) |
| 16:13.29 | kergoth | that annoys me enough that i may just fix it |
| 16:13.29 | TheMasterMind1 | else you can fix networksetup |
| 16:13.30 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:13.43 | Onyx4 | w00t qtopiagnuboy works |
| 16:13.49 | Onyx4 | all we need is hwkey grab |
| 16:13.51 | TheMasterMind1 | sweet |
| 16:14.10 | Onyx4 | knights works |
| 16:14.19 | Onyx4 | opie-irc didn't crash |
| 16:14.25 | TheMasterMind1 | really? |
| 16:14.30 | TheMasterMind1 | does it do weird scrolling? |
| 16:15.15 | Onyx4 | didnt notice |
| 16:15.19 | Onyx4 | but I only stayed for a few sec |
| 16:15.28 | TheMasterMind1 | i did a gdb on it found out where it was segfaulting |
| 16:15.33 | TheMasterMind1 | submitted on mantis last night |
| 16:16.15 | nobse | ipkg: /home/tretkowski/openzaurus/buildroot/buildroot-oz/output/ipks/opie-base_*_arm.ipk: No such file or directory |
| 16:16.18 | nobse | make[1]: *** [/home/tretkowski/openzaurus/buildroot/buildroot-oz/output/rootfs/usr/lib/ipkg/info/opie-base.control] Error 1 |
| 16:16.21 | nobse | hmm...? |
| 16:16.29 | kergoth | nobse: obviously you have no opie ipks |
| 16:16.33 | kergoth | nobse: probably didnt enable opie |
| 16:16.36 | kergoth | nobse: run menuconfig |
| 16:16.44 | Onyx4 | hey try recalibrate |
| 16:16.48 | Onyx4 | it hangs on the last crosshair |
| 16:16.51 | Onyx4 | when you do it again |
| 16:16.52 | kergoth | worked fine here last night |
| 16:17.05 | kergoth | havent tested since |
| 16:17.11 | nobse | kergoth: [*] opie (integrated desktop environment) |
| 16:17.11 | *** join/#openzaurus tmm1 (foobar@h-69-3-158-91.MCLNVA23.covad.net) |
| 16:17.15 | nobse | it's enabled |
| 16:17.33 | Onyx4 | i can't get out of the screen |
| 16:17.36 | Onyx4 | that's odd |
| 16:17.38 | nobse | kergoth: happens after copying def-configs/openzaurus-image to .config an running make image |
| 16:17.41 | kergoth | nobse: so rm stamps/.opie.ipk; make SUBDIRS=packages/opie; |
| 16:17.45 | kergoth | nobse: no, it doesnt. |
| 16:17.50 | kergoth | nobse: you ran menuconfig after copying the image .config |
| 16:17.54 | kergoth | nobse: which disabled opie |
| 16:17.56 | kergoth | nobse: dont do that |
| 16:18.42 | nobse | strange... |
| 16:18.56 | Onyx4 | yep hangs everytime I try to recalibrate |
| 16:18.57 | kergoth | and why are you building an image? |
| 16:19.00 | Onyx4 | last crosshair |
| 16:19.02 | kergoth | you should be compiling first. |
| 16:19.02 | Onyx4 | I restarted opie |
| 16:19.12 | TheMasterMind1 | he did compile |
| 16:19.12 | nobse | kergoth: I did |
| 16:19.20 | kergoth | nobse: well, it didnt. |
| 16:19.25 | kergoth | nobse: if it had, you would have opie ipks. |
| 16:19.31 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: Onyx4 tried ifupdown in busybox, still has problems it seems |
| 16:19.44 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: not surprised |
| 16:19.48 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: that sucks tho |
| 16:19.57 | Onyx4 | so I reverted to our good old ifupdown |
| 16:19.58 | TheMasterMind1 | indeed |
| 16:19.59 | nobse | kergoth: hmm... very strange |
| 16:20.03 | Onyx4 | I doubt it would have worked with usb hotplug too |
| 16:20.29 | kergoth | ? |
| 16:20.33 | nobse | opie ipks are in output/ipks |
| 16:20.39 | kergoth | all hotplug does is calls ifup |
| 16:20.46 | kergoth | theres nothing for it to be doing |
| 16:20.57 | kergoth | nobse: well you dont have a opie-base one, maybe opie's cvs is hokey atm |
| 16:21.14 | Onyx4 | yes |
| 16:21.28 | Onyx4 | cause the init.d and rc2.d/S98 are in different location |
| 16:21.33 | Onyx4 | and the control file still reference the old |
| 16:21.40 | Onyx4 | I just moved the scripts to the old place and it worked |
| 16:21.44 | TheMasterMind1 | ? |
| 16:21.46 | kergoth | ? |
| 16:21.48 | kergoth | who cares |
| 16:21.51 | kergoth | a fucking path problem? |
| 16:21.57 | Onyx4 | yes somehow |
| 16:22.00 | kergoth | i dont count that as a real issue |
| 16:22.02 | kergoth | who gives a fuck |
| 16:22.09 | TheMasterMind1 | what are we talking about? |
| 16:22.14 | Onyx4 | not building opie-base |
| 16:22.27 | Onyx4 | it fails right now with default control file |
| 16:23.13 | kergoth | just patch it |
| 16:23.17 | kergoth | minor bug |
| 16:24.11 | mickeyl | kergoth: h |
| 16:24.12 | mickeyl | i |
| 16:24.17 | kergoth | hey mickeyl |
| 16:25.30 | mickeyl | kergoth: i have a small issue with the opie subsystem build. You no longer include $STAGING_DIR/usr/include resp. $STAGNG_DIR/usr/lib as CFLAGS resp. LDFLAGS. This breaks Wellenreiter build, because it links to libpcap, which is in $STAGING_DIR/usr. Could you add these again? |
| 16:25.45 | kergoth | eh? |
| 16:25.46 | kergoth | bullshit |
| 16:25.54 | kergoth | libpcap installs into staging/include and staging/lib |
| 16:26.02 | kergoth | you just need to wipe your staging completely and rebuild |
| 16:26.02 | TheMasterMind1 | mickeyl: recompile libpcap |
| 16:26.05 | TheMasterMind1 | its been fixed |
| 16:26.07 | mickeyl | kergoth: since when? |
| 16:26.10 | kergoth | rm -rf output/staging stamps/.*staging* |
| 16:26.12 | TheMasterMind1 | mickeyl: last night |
| 16:26.13 | kergoth | mickeyl: yesterday. |
| 16:26.16 | kergoth | mickeyl: we completely revamped staging |
| 16:26.28 | mickeyl | tmm/kergoth: ah, nice. ok, thanks to you. I will rebuild completely |
| 16:26.47 | kergoth | mickeyl: rm -rf output/staging stamps/.*staginginstall; make; |
| 16:27.12 | mickeyl | ok |
| 16:27.43 | *** join/#openzaurus AndyQ (AndyQ_w@pc-80-194-121-147-hy.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 16:27.53 | kergoth | hey AndyQ |
| 16:28.08 | AndyQ | hi there - hows it going? |
| 16:28.10 | *** join/#openzaurus Adralian (Adralian@merlin.rh.rit.edu) |
| 16:28.35 | AndyQ | kergoth: what was you botmail about? |
| 16:28.55 | kergoth | AndyQ: filtering defaults. ignore it. :) |
| 16:28.57 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: hey, sfcave is default app for ipks |
| 16:29.05 | AndyQ | kergoth: k |
| 16:29.18 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: Yeh - I'm just firing up linux to check whats going on |
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| 16:29.28 | kergoth | AndyQ: btw, i love sfcave |
| 16:29.30 | kergoth | AndyQ: :) |
| 16:29.38 | TheMasterMind1 | yes!!!!!!! |
| 16:29.41 | AndyQ | kergoth: cool - hows the thumb :) |
| 16:29.41 | TheMasterMind1 | the new sfcave is AMAZING |
| 16:29.42 | ljp_work | if you love it so much, why not marry it? |
| 16:29.47 | mickeyl | bbl |
| 16:30.00 | AndyQ | ljp_work: screwing it may prove a tad difficult |
| 16:30.04 | TheMasterMind1 | hah |
| 16:30.08 | ljp_work | hehe |
| 16:30.22 | ljp_work | ya the sd slot _is_ rather small |
| 16:30.22 | AndyQ | but then I guess just have a wee affair instead :) |
| 16:30.30 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 16:31.33 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: i've got hungry testers waiting for 3.1rc1 |
| 16:31.51 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: OK, figured it out, it should only be default for ipkgs if you used the one from my feed |
| 16:32.10 | AndyQ | The one from the Opie feed should work fine (I cocked up the desktop file) |
| 16:32.11 | TheMasterMind1 | alright |
| 16:32.23 | AndyQ | I'll double check the opie one just in case though |
| 16:32.26 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: aqpkg needs proxy stuff |
| 16:32.29 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: does it need it between depends the "," don't think so |
| 16:32.39 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: AQPkg doesn't need proxy stuff |
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| 16:32.55 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: well, all the other buildroot stuff has it and my mplayer depends weren't working so i think it did |
| 16:32.56 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: Ipkg has proxy stuff already I think |
| 16:33.07 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: well, it needs a gui to be able to set the proxy in the ipkg.conf |
| 16:33.13 | Onyx4 | ok good |
| 16:33.17 | Onyx4 | probably won't hurt |
| 16:33.17 | TheMasterMind1 | cuz most people don't edit the ipkg.conf by hand |
| 16:33.20 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: AQPkg however needs a gui to set the proxy stuff :) |
| 16:33.28 | TheMasterMind1 | yep |
| 16:33.37 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: What you just said :) |
| 16:33.41 | TheMasterMind1 | :) |
| 16:33.46 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: I'll add one soonish |
| 16:33.48 | TheMasterMind1 | nice job with zremote too |
| 16:33.59 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: why does xmms-e depends on tinyx? |
| 16:34.01 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: Glad you like it |
| 16:34.15 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: Does xmms-e handle keypresses yet? |
| 16:34.17 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: the building does, the ipk doesn't |
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| 16:34.27 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: dunno, the whole mplayer/xmms-e thing is a mess |
| 16:34.34 | TheMasterMind1 | bunch of bugs |
| 16:34.34 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: yeah it seems like it |
| 16:34.50 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: xmms-e needs x headers to compile |
| 16:35.03 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: thats stupid. |
| 16:35.09 | brontos | I am trying to use opie-checkbook... My transactions won't save any reason for this? |
| 16:35.10 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: OK, the Opie desktop file is also wrong - but I'm fixing now |
| 16:35.20 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: yea, i know. bitch at the author |
| 16:36.40 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: ok |
| 16:37.23 | AndyQ | k fixed |
| 16:37.29 | TheMasterMind1 | great |
| 16:37.53 | AndyQ | kergoth: BTW did you know that SFCave can do replays? Press are when you crashed to see how you did - its cool |
| 16:38.13 | AndyQ | I'm ganna add the ability to save a replay so other people can load it up see it |
| 16:39.25 | ljp_work | replay? |
| 16:40.08 | AndyQ | yup - fly around a bit, crash, press are and it replays the last game |
| 16:40.16 | AndyQ | its cool imo |
| 16:40.42 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: "are" ? |
| 16:41.21 | AndyQ | :) 'r' - XChat is changing r to be are |
| 16:41.26 | AndyQ | damn thing |
| 16:44.05 | Onyx4 | I do see the CF eject/resume problem |
| 16:44.20 | AndyQ | anyone know how I can get ssh-agent to start automatically and ssh-add the neccessary ssh keys in ? |
| 16:44.32 | kergoth | ? |
| 16:44.34 | kergoth | AndyQ: um |
| 16:44.40 | AndyQ | its a pain having to remember to do it manually |
| 16:44.40 | kergoth | AndyQ: ssh-agent always starts automatically on the Z |
| 16:44.56 | AndyQ | kergoth: sorry - I meant on my linux box |
| 16:45.03 | Onyx4 | after resume, my keyboard input has dropped from opie |
| 16:45.05 | Onyx4 | it's in the terminal |
| 16:45.17 | Onyx4 | I get an error message about chvt |
| 16:45.25 | Onyx4 | Starting Opie.... |
| 16:45.26 | Onyx4 | chvt: VT_ACTIVATE: Bad file descriptor |
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| 16:46.44 | kergoth | Onyx4: fixed the opie-base control file |
| 16:47.29 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: goddamnit i hate installing the uic package, cause then it uninstalls my qt3-dev and qt3-tools |
| 16:47.37 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: heh |
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| 16:48.40 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: can we put mplayer as "fs" by default? |
| 16:48.44 | Onyx4 | or there is still an issue with that |
| 16:48.55 | kergoth | 'fs'? |
| 16:49.04 | AndyQ | brb |
| 16:49.13 | Onyx4 | I am trying mplayer now, wow, what a difference from the old one |
| 16:49.20 | Onyx4 | much faster , everything is *smooth*! |
| 16:50.24 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: yes, there is an issue |
| 16:50.44 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: it doensn't like movies that are exactly the size of the screen |
| 16:50.46 | TheMasterMind1 | with -fs |
| 16:51.14 | Onyx4 | mmm I see.. do you still get redraw problems tough after you quit mplayer? |
| 16:51.19 | Onyx4 | we don't use sdl video right? |
| 16:51.22 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 16:51.31 | Onyx4 | vo=fbdev right now in the config file |
| 16:51.33 | Onyx4 | is that correct? |
| 16:51.35 | TheMasterMind1 | yes |
| 16:51.43 | TheMasterMind1 | its supposed tohave redraw problems |
| 16:51.47 | TheMasterMind1 | unless you use it from xmms-e |
| 16:51.56 | Onyx4 | I see ok |
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| 16:54.49 | lsmith | TheMasterMind1: which feed should i try atm? |
| 16:54.52 | lsmith | yours? |
| 16:55.03 | lsmith | unstable hasnt been updated in a while it seems |
| 16:55.04 | Onyx4 | I wonder why it's so fast now even with mp3, it wasn't like that before |
| 16:55.04 | TheMasterMind1 | lsmith: just wait for oz3.1rc1 |
| 16:55.11 | lsmith | k .. eta? |
| 16:55.12 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: heh, who knows.. |
| 16:55.19 | kergoth | lsmith: today |
| 16:55.26 | lsmith | woo |
| 16:55.28 | lsmith | nice :-) |
| 16:56.02 | Onyx4 | OMG they finally fixed kpacman to copy the default scheme |
| 16:56.05 | Onyx4 | about time |
| 16:56.25 | kergoth | finally |
| 16:57.20 | chouimat|busy | wow a packing tax |
| 16:57.23 | lsmith | kergoth: will you announce it on the mailing list? |
| 16:57.26 | AndyQ | kergoth: you hjaven't build for OZ3.1rc1 yet have you? |
| 16:57.31 | Onyx4 | I tested most of the eon games, everything looks good, I installed prboom, installs fine, didn't try to run yet |
| 16:57.38 | kergoth | AndyQ: ? |
| 16:57.40 | Onyx4 | apps wise, we seem ok |
| 16:57.42 | kergoth | lsmith: yes |
| 16:58.00 | lsmith | ok great ... hope nothing serious will bork |
| 16:58.00 | Cloudchaser | and the tkc display fix will be in 3.1 too? |
| 16:58.08 | lsmith | or i will have to go out and buy a cf writer ;-) |
| 16:58.12 | AndyQ | kergoth: have you build the feed that goes with OZ3.1rc1 yet? |
| 16:58.17 | AndyQ | built |
| 16:58.26 | kergoth | AndyQ: building opie for it now |
| 16:58.29 | kergoth | AndyQ: whats up? |
| 16:58.46 | AndyQ | ARSE! - I was hopeing to get save & load replays for SFCave into it :) |
| 16:58.58 | kergoth | push them into cvs then |
| 16:59.01 | kergoth | i'll update the build |
| 16:59.15 | kergoth | i'm not releasing until i get the hwclock init script in |
| 16:59.19 | AndyQ | it will take me about 10 mins or so to code it up |
| 16:59.25 | Onyx4 | what's sfcave? I saw that in ipkg |
| 16:59.38 | AndyQ | Onyx4: its my killer app for the Z :) |
| 16:59.54 | Cloudchaser | you made that AndyQ? |
| 17:00.00 | AndyQ | yup |
| 17:00.03 | kergoth | its a fun game |
| 17:00.11 | Cloudchaser | ah i didn't try it yet |
| 17:00.30 | AndyQ | I took the idea from a helicopter game (flash) I saw - before finding out that it was itsself based on another game called SFCave |
| 17:02.43 | Cloudchaser | ah.. i'll give it a try :) |
| 17:04.40 | TheMasterMind1 | configure.in:510: error: do not use LIBOBJS directly, use AC_LIBOBJ (see section `AC_LIBOBJ vs LIBOBJS' |
| 17:04.40 | TheMasterMind1 | make[2]: *** [/home/agupta/zaurus/buildroot/stamps/.tcpdump.binary] Error 1 |
| 17:04.42 | TheMasterMind1 | tcpdump fails |
| 17:04.56 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: autoconf version thing eh |
| 17:04.57 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: fun |
| 17:05.05 | TheMasterMind1 | what do i do? |
| 17:05.23 | TheMasterMind1 | is it fixable |
| 17:05.26 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: read the section AC_LIBOBJ vs LIBOBJS in the autoconf docs like it says? |
| 17:05.29 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: hehe |
| 17:05.32 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: yes, we patch their configure.in |
| 17:05.36 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 17:08.27 | TheMasterMind1 | configure.in:1: error: possibly undefined macro: dnl |
| 17:08.27 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.28 | TheMasterMind1 | and that? |
| 17:09.02 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: can you reproduce the recalibrate hang? |
| 17:09.43 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: eh? |
| 17:09.50 | Onyx4 | go in recalibrate again |
| 17:09.53 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 17:09.59 | Onyx4 | see if it hangs after the last crosshair click |
| 17:10.04 | TheMasterMind1 | nope |
| 17:10.37 | Onyx4 | mmm maybe it's cause I kept my old settings |
| 17:10.37 | Onyx4 | dunno |
| 17:11.33 | TheMasterMind1 | ttf openoffice no longer exists |
| 17:11.34 | TheMasterMind1 | joy |
| 17:11.46 | Onyx4 | do we need that for opie too? |
| 17:11.49 | Onyx4 | or just X? |
| 17:12.02 | TheMasterMind1 | we don't need it at all |
| 17:12.09 | Onyx4 | k |
| 17:12.20 | Onyx4 | cause I saw it somewhere in the configs, but it's disabled now |
| 17:13.48 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm, all the X stuff is still going into usr/ |
| 17:14.13 | TheMasterMind1 | but other than that, staging is clean |
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| 17:36.26 | AndyQ | How do I get the current users home directory in C? |
| 17:36.37 | TheMasterMind1 | good question |
| 17:37.13 | AndyQ | I don't want to hardcode /home/root (thats crap!) but i want somewhere to save replay files and I thought home is the place |
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| 17:37.49 | kergoth | AndyQ: i believe theres a QDir method function to obtain homedir |
| 17:37.56 | AndyQ | haha! |
| 17:38.02 | kergoth | AndyQ: worst case.. ::getenv("HOME"); |
| 17:38.04 | kergoth | AndyQ: :P |
| 17:38.09 | AndyQ | heh |
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| 17:42.00 | AndyQ | kergoth: thanks - QDir had it |
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| 17:43.05 | kergoth | AndyQ: np |
| 17:43.51 | AndyQ | kergoth: OK, replay loading and saving in a rudimentary way is in SFCave - you can only load/save a replay after you've crashed at least once (not from the menu yet) |
| 17:44.10 | AndyQ | and theres no feedback that the replay load/save actually did anything :) coming soon though |
| 17:44.17 | AndyQ | and very pretty it will look too. |
| 17:44.49 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:44.50 | kergoth | cool |
| 17:49.08 | AndyQ | kergoth: hope you haven't update Opie yet - just realised I didn't check for no replay file on loading.. 2 moments |
| 17:49.18 | kergoth | AndyQ: hehe, nope, havent |
| 17:49.22 | kergoth | AndyQ: its still building my opie |
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| 17:49.27 | kergoth | AndyQ: i'll cvs up and build it again after its done |
| 17:49.31 | AndyQ | k |
| 17:52.55 | lsmith | oz3.1rc1 will come with a new initrd and zImage i assume? |
| 17:53.32 | AndyQ | kergoth: OK, fixed and commited |
| 17:55.36 | Onyx4 | OK, I just added resumeguard applet to OZ bk |
| 17:55.41 | Onyx4 | what does the change to freetype affects? |
| 17:56.03 | kergoth | Onyx4: ensures pg-server builds |
| 17:56.07 | kergoth | Onyx4: needed the headers |
| 17:56.10 | Onyx4 | ok |
| 17:57.00 | Onyx4 | i like resumeguard, it's pretty cool |
| 17:57.22 | Onyx4 | prevent your Z from waking up in your pockets accidentally |
| 17:57.53 | lsmith | nice |
| 17:58.13 | Onyx4 | basically you have to press "cancel" twice to power it on |
| 17:58.19 | Onyx4 | if you press it once, it will shutdown again in 30 seconds |
| 17:58.20 | lsmith | ah |
| 17:58.31 | lsmith | how about keeping the lock unless you use the keyboard? |
| 17:58.34 | Onyx4 | or click on the screen the "cancel" button |
| 17:59.30 | Onyx4 | I noticed opie takes a little more time to suspend now with oz 3.1, but that's ok I guess |
| 17:59.35 | Onyx4 | I have to hold the button longer |
| 17:59.46 | AndyQ | Onyx4: yeah - I noticed that too |
| 18:00.03 | Onyx4 | maybe it would be good to just blank the screen as a sign that the apm suspend call has started |
| 18:00.18 | Onyx4 | I think there is probably a delay, but the key has been already recongnized |
| 18:00.32 | Onyx4 | it's just the response that's slowed down maybe |
| 18:00.50 | kergoth | Onyx4: its our apmd hack |
| 18:00.54 | kergoth | Onyx4: results in a delay |
| 18:01.10 | kergoth | Onyx4: we may be able to speed it up.. but the real solution is to get a apm implementation in kernel that doesnt blow goats |
| 18:01.15 | lsmith | one thing that i saw with the current oz is that the screen sometimes woke up when a new song in xmms was started |
| 18:01.50 | kergoth | hm, never did commit the Run... launcher startmenu applet |
| 18:01.51 | lsmith | i dont think i saw a real pattern in that behavoir however |
| 18:02.31 | AndyQ | ljp_work: would it be possible to add a refresh launcher option for opie - would be handy when running mplayer |
| 18:02.43 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: opie dies half the time you eject SD |
| 18:02.52 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: cloudchaser said that. mine never does |
| 18:03.01 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: so look into it. try unmounting it manually |
| 18:03.10 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: all it does is calls sdcontrol, which ends up calling umount |
| 18:03.12 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: nothing special |
| 18:03.36 | TheMasterMind1 | actually |
| 18:03.38 | TheMasterMind1 | i bet i know what it is |
| 18:03.39 | Cloudchaser | ah.. vindication one one point! |
| 18:03.46 | Cloudchaser | :) |
| 18:04.26 | Cloudchaser | btw TheMasterMind1: it crashed for me every time, but from command line it seemed fine |
| 18:04.27 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:04.36 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i think its related to sdcontrol |
| 18:04.40 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: read compeject |
| 18:04.45 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: it does some hokey shit regarding umounting |
| 18:05.27 | TheMasterMind1 | yea i know |
| 18:05.28 | ljp_work | AndyQ: you could write a small refresh opie plugin :) |
| 18:05.33 | TheMasterMind1 | it kills stuff that is using the SD |
| 18:05.38 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: yep |
| 18:05.42 | ljp_work | or launcher |
| 18:05.47 | TheMasterMind1 | i fixed this bug a long time ago |
| 18:05.51 | TheMasterMind1 | it was the first oz thing i fixed |
| 18:05.58 | AndyQ | ljp_work: Yeah - not quite sure how yet - but I think it should be part of the launcher |
| 18:06.17 | AndyQ | ljp_work: also, I'd love it if the background didn't scroll when the icons did |
| 18:06.25 | ljp_work | there's two restart plugins I wrote |
| 18:06.28 | AndyQ | ljp_work: just looking to see how hard that would be to do |
| 18:06.40 | kergoth | AndyQ: just do a lil applet |
| 18:06.42 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:06.49 | kergoth | applets are spiffy |
| 18:07.03 | kergoth | or do a start menu applet "Refresh" |
| 18:07.05 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:07.12 | AndyQ | kergoth: yeah - I'll take a look at say the clock applet to see how thats done |
| 18:08.17 | ljp_work | you can also do a menu plugin |
| 18:08.24 | kergoth | 12:19 <@kergoth> or do a start menu applet "Refresh" |
| 18:08.27 | ljp_work | look at restart2 |
| 18:08.28 | kergoth | :P |
| 18:08.36 | ljp_work | blah |
| 18:08.40 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:08.42 | ljp_work | ibot: lart kergoth |
| 18:08.46 | kergoth | ow |
| 18:08.50 | kergoth | that makes me want to install prboom |
| 18:08.54 | AndyQ | lol - pack it in kiddies |
| 18:08.55 | kergoth | i need to frag something with a bfg9000 |
| 18:09.00 | kergoth | ~rlart |
| 18:09.15 | kergoth | yay for random wanton destruction |
| 18:09.15 | kergoth | ~rlart |
| 18:09.20 | smeeZ|w | ouch |
| 18:09.25 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:09.29 | smeeZ|w | :) |
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| 18:17.36 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: wtf, running /etc/sdcontrol compeject from commandline does nothing |
| 18:17.39 | TheMasterMind1 | from cardmon kills opie |
| 18:17.46 | TheMasterMind1 | what exactly is cardmon caling |
| 18:17.48 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: that doeesnt make much sense |
| 18:17.51 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: look in the code |
| 18:17.54 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: rtfc |
| 18:17.55 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:18.03 | TheMasterMind1 | where is it |
| 18:18.09 | kergoth | ? |
| 18:18.16 | kergoth | find build/opie -name opie-cardmon\* |
| 18:18.23 | TheMasterMind1 | eh |
| 18:18.24 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
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| 18:19.10 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.16 | TheMasterMind1 | i've never seen a popup |
| 18:19.21 | kergoth | right |
| 18:19.26 | kergoth | so it never makes it to that point |
| 18:19.56 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.59 | TheMasterMind1 | where do debugs go? |
| 18:20.23 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: to the bitbucket unless you had syslog running when you started opie, afaik |
| 18:20.48 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 18:23.26 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.26 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.26 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.26 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.26 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.38 | TheMasterMind1 | # /sbin/cardctl eject 0; echo $? |
| 18:23.38 | TheMasterMind1 | ioctl(): Device or resource busy |
| 18:23.38 | TheMasterMind1 | 1 |
| 18:23.51 | TheMasterMind1 | that one is because it doing only < 1 |
| 18:23.56 | TheMasterMind1 | is error ever < 1 ? |
| 18:24.05 | TheMasterMind1 | err, < 0 even |
| 18:24.41 | kergoth | yep |
| 18:24.46 | kergoth | afaik |
| 18:24.58 | TheMasterMind1 | ok, so it should have an extra check for 1 also no? |
| 18:25.01 | kergoth | your cardctl eject failed? |
| 18:25.13 | TheMasterMind1 | yes, cuz i'm sshed in |
| 18:25.19 | TheMasterMind1 | so its busy |
| 18:25.23 | kergoth | yeah you're right, it should probably be just if ( err != 0 ) |
| 18:25.29 | TheMasterMind1 | yep |
| 18:25.44 | kergoth | cardmon is such a simple beast |
| 18:25.45 | kergoth | and yet |
| 18:25.47 | kergoth | its still buggy |
| 18:25.50 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:26.14 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:26.19 | TheMasterMind1 | that will wval to 0 i hope? |
| 18:27.31 | kergoth | thats fine |
| 18:29.16 | TheMasterMind1 | grr, now it starts working again |
| 18:29.19 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:29.47 | TheMasterMind1 | this sucks. |
| 18:30.18 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 18:30.49 | TheMasterMind1 | # /etc/sdcontrol compeject; echo $? |
| 18:30.49 | TheMasterMind1 | Killed |
| 18:30.49 | TheMasterMind1 | 137 |
| 18:31.14 | TheMasterMind1 | yet, this doesnt work |
| 18:31.15 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:31.15 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:31.15 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:31.15 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:31.15 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:31.17 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:31.23 | TheMasterMind1 | its so simple.. why doesn't it work |
| 18:33.33 | TheMasterMind1 | # kill -9 m |
| 18:33.36 | TheMasterMind1 | why does that happen? |
| 18:33.41 | TheMasterMind1 | it killed my ssh session |
| 18:33.41 | kergoth | ? |
| 18:33.51 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: it kills anything using sd . |
| 18:33.55 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: were you cd'd onto the card |
| 18:33.58 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: ? |
| 18:34.08 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:34.17 | TheMasterMind1 | no, why does "kill -9 m" kill my ssh |
| 18:34.20 | TheMasterMind1 | whats the m? |
| 18:34.32 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm, any letter does that |
| 18:34.39 | kergoth | dont kill a letter :) |
| 18:34.42 | kergoth | it expects a PID |
| 18:34.46 | kergoth | its weird that it lets you |
| 18:34.50 | TheMasterMind1 | ok, gimme a sed to get rid of all non-numbers |
| 18:34.59 | kergoth | ? |
| 18:35.00 | TheMasterMind1 | or just all letters |
| 18:35.01 | kergoth | whats calling kill? |
| 18:35.07 | kergoth | sdcontrol? |
| 18:35.11 | AndyQ | ljp_work: QIconView is pants for static backgrounds! |
| 18:35.14 | TheMasterMind1 | ok, here, it uses fuser -m /dev/mmcda1 |
| 18:35.19 | TheMasterMind1 | which returns letters for some reason |
| 18:35.19 | kergoth | AndyQ: pants? |
| 18:35.22 | AndyQ | ljp_work: can't see anyway of doing it |
| 18:35.24 | TheMasterMind1 | like <pid>m or <pid>c |
| 18:35.26 | AndyQ | kergoth: yeah - crap! |
| 18:35.31 | kergoth | ah |
| 18:35.31 | TheMasterMind1 | which i think is causing the screwups |
| 18:35.34 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: weird |
| 18:35.35 | TheMasterMind1 | since it tries to kill letters |
| 18:35.44 | TheMasterMind1 | so gimme a sed to wipe out the letters |
| 18:36.34 | TheMasterMind1 | echo k sdf 23 | sed -e "s/[a-z A-Z]*//" |
| 18:36.34 | TheMasterMind1 | works |
| 18:36.46 | kergoth | fuser -m /dev/mmcda1|sed -e 's,[^1234567890]*,,g;' |
| 18:36.48 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:38.27 | kergoth | course if busybox sed supports posix character classes its easy |
| 18:38.32 | kergoth | but i dont think it does |
| 18:39.04 | TheMasterMind1 | hm, that puts all the numbers together |
| 18:39.15 | TheMasterMind1 | one big nonexistant pid |
| 18:39.19 | kergoth | huh? |
| 18:39.22 | kergoth | ohhh |
| 18:39.30 | kergoth | fuser -m /dev/mmcda1|sed -e 's,[^1234567890 ]*,,g;' |
| 18:39.40 | kergoth | let it not strip spaces |
| 18:39.41 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:41.22 | kergoth | just do your a-z one then, doesnt matter |
| 18:41.30 | kergoth | either match letters, or match -not- numbers |
| 18:42.27 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:42.29 | TheMasterMind1 | we also don't have expr |
| 18:42.40 | kergoth | we should probably enable it |
| 18:43.15 | TheMasterMind1 | so wtf does \>= do |
| 18:43.35 | TheMasterMind1 | oh |
| 18:43.37 | TheMasterMind1 | i see it |
| 18:43.39 | kergoth | >= |
| 18:43.39 | AndyQ | right - got to go - later |
| 18:43.46 | kergoth | it just escapes the > so the shell doesnt redirect to a file |
| 18:43.46 | Cloudchaser | bye AndyQ |
| 18:43.49 | Cloudchaser | have a good one |
| 18:44.01 | AndyQ | yeah - thanks - gym time :) and its damn cold |
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| 18:44.23 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: ok, so how do we do that without expr |
| 18:45.13 | TheMasterMind1 | # echo $((3>4)) |
| 18:45.13 | TheMasterMind1 | 0 |
| 18:45.13 | TheMasterMind1 | # echo $((4>2)) |
| 18:45.13 | TheMasterMind1 | 1 |
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| 18:47.39 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: busybox ash supports that? |
| 18:47.55 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: thats not posix standard for /bin/sh, thats a bashism, but a lot of shells have adopted it |
| 18:49.24 | TheMasterMind1 | yep, its supported |
| 18:49.26 | TheMasterMind1 | arGH! |
| 18:49.28 | TheMasterMind1 | this script sucks |
| 18:49.33 | kergoth | sdcontrol? |
| 18:49.35 | kergoth | yes, i know |
| 18:49.40 | TheMasterMind1 | if it can't umount, it just sleeps and tries over and over |
| 18:49.44 | TheMasterMind1 | cept we don't have usleep |
| 18:49.48 | TheMasterMind1 | and sleeping and trying again doesn't help anyway |
| 18:49.52 | kergoth | right |
| 18:49.58 | TheMasterMind1 | so what do we do? |
| 18:49.59 | kergoth | so it could hang in an indefinate loop |
| 18:50.02 | kergoth | whee |
| 18:50.04 | hardwire | we run! |
| 18:50.11 | DaJoker | TheMasterMind1: btw, just upgraded a 3.0 install to your feed.. dhcp on wireless seems to have broken |
| 18:50.29 | kergoth | DaJoker: using busybox ifupdown or regular ifupdown? |
| 18:50.31 | TheMasterMind1 | DaJoker: amke sure you upgrade busybox |
| 18:50.36 | TheMasterMind1 | and ifupdown |
| 18:50.39 | kergoth | heh :) |
| 18:50.44 | kergoth | finally |
| 18:50.46 | DaJoker | hrm.. |
| 18:50.46 | kergoth | opie build completed |
| 18:50.47 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: i'm stuck in an infinite loop right now |
| 18:50.52 | TheMasterMind1 | its never going to umount |
| 18:50.59 | TheMasterMind1 | cuz opie's using the damn thing |
| 18:51.02 | DaJoker | Not downgrading package busybox on root from 20020923-4 to 0.61.pre-20021208-5. |
| 18:51.03 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i'll fix sdcontrol to be more sane |
| 18:51.04 | DaJoker | argh.. |
| 18:51.05 | TheMasterMind1 | so what do we do |
| 18:51.33 | TheMasterMind1 | haha |
| 18:51.36 | kergoth | ? |
| 18:51.40 | TheMasterMind1 | great, opie's kinda hung |
| 18:51.44 | TheMasterMind1 | in an infinite loop also |
| 18:51.44 | kergoth | whee |
| 18:52.00 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: if that system() never returns, opie never comes back. |
| 18:52.04 | TheMasterMind1 | yep |
| 18:52.06 | TheMasterMind1 | exactly |
| 18:52.07 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i wonder if OProcess is more sane about that |
| 18:52.17 | TheMasterMind1 | how will that help |
| 18:52.23 | TheMasterMind1 | sdcontrol is what needs to be fixed |
| 18:52.24 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: ? |
| 18:52.30 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: point is |
| 18:52.31 | TheMasterMind1 | is there a way to umount if opie's using it or not? |
| 18:52.36 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: opie shouldnt use something that could cause it to hang |
| 18:52.38 | TheMasterMind1 | i don't think there is, you have to kill opie |
| 18:52.40 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: -ever- |
| 18:52.47 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: bad design |
| 18:52.56 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: sdcontrol is definately hosed of course |
| 18:53.06 | TheMasterMind1 | is there a solution is what i'm asking |
| 18:53.10 | TheMasterMind1 | how would you fix sdcontrol |
| 18:53.29 | DaJoker | hrmm.. |
| 18:53.38 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: kill everything off, unmount. thats all we can do |
| 18:53.44 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: looping forever is fucking stupid |
| 18:53.45 | DaJoker | anyway to tell ipkg to force use the feed versions of the ipk? |
| 18:53.46 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: so then opie dies.. |
| 18:53.50 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: cause theres no guarantee time will cause a problem |
| 18:53.51 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: huh? |
| 18:53.54 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: can we stop opie, umount, start opie or something like that |
| 18:53.58 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: why? |
| 18:54.08 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: opie doesnt die on failed umount.. the sd card will just stay in use |
| 18:54.09 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: oh, you're saying just if it doesn't work, tell em too bad? |
| 18:54.12 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: bingo. |
| 18:54.17 | TheMasterMind1 | sounds good to me |
| 18:54.21 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: not much else you can do |
| 18:54.23 | TheMasterMind1 | just make it return a non 0 |
| 18:54.27 | TheMasterMind1 | i can do that |
| 18:54.30 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: if something is using it, theres no guarantee it'll not be using it 10 minutes from now |
| 18:54.33 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: cool |
| 18:54.38 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: actually, sdcontrol eject already does that |
| 18:54.40 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: right? |
| 18:54.46 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: just make compeject call its own eject |
| 18:54.47 | kergoth | compeject: |
| 18:54.51 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:54.54 | kergoth | ;; |
| 18:54.55 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:55.04 | TheMasterMind1 | nono |
| 18:55.07 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: well, sometimes it does work |
| 18:55.10 | TheMasterMind1 | i dunno why |
| 18:55.10 | kergoth | ? |
| 18:55.28 | TheMasterMind1 | but sometimes if sdcontrol kills processes other than opie that are using the SD it can umount |
| 18:55.53 | TheMasterMind1 | and the current "eject" in sdcontrol doesn't even attempt a umount if the sd is being used |
| 18:56.34 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: how about this, we make it return some errorcode, like 15 or something and in cardmon we do if (err == 15) popup("opie is using SD"); |
| 18:56.44 | DaJoker | ok.. ipkg sucks |
| 18:56.48 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: hmm |
| 18:56.49 | TheMasterMind1 | i made it right now return 1 and it shows the default message.. "eject failed" |
| 18:57.07 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i say it just fails the eject if its in use, not even try killing things |
| 18:57.26 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: hmmm |
| 18:57.32 | TheMasterMind1 | cardmon is pretty useless then |
| 18:57.33 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 18:57.34 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: we could do a more verbose error deal, that wouldnt hurt anything. just say eject failed: card busy |
| 18:57.39 | TheMasterMind1 | for sd's anyway |
| 18:57.47 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: not really. it unmounts, but you cant unmount if its in use.. |
| 18:57.55 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: so if you're running an app on your sd, you cant eject it |
| 18:57.55 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: alright, sounds good |
| 18:57.57 | kergoth | which makes sense |
| 18:58.01 | kergoth | pcmcia is different |
| 18:58.04 | kergoth | because its not just an unmount |
| 18:58.06 | kergoth | its a true eject |
| 18:58.10 | DaJoker | for fucks sake.. how do I force ipkg to 'downgrade' a package |
| 18:58.17 | TheMasterMind1 | DaJoker: edit your status file |
| 18:58.18 | kergoth | DaJoker: i dont think you can |
| 18:58.20 | kergoth | DaJoker: edit status |
| 18:58.21 | kergoth | yeah |
| 18:58.22 | TheMasterMind1 | and make the busybox version 0.00 |
| 18:58.28 | DaJoker | you've got to be kidding me |
| 18:58.34 | TheMasterMind1 | DaJoker: :) |
| 18:58.35 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: can you look into the ability to install local ipks regardless of version again? |
| 18:58.40 | TheMasterMind1 | yes i will |
| 18:58.40 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: cause thats how it used to work |
| 18:58.41 | kergoth | cool |
| 18:58.42 | kergoth | thanks |
| 18:58.55 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: can you edit/push changes to cardmon and fix sdcontrol then? |
| 18:59.02 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: yeah will do |
| 18:59.06 | kergoth | my opie finally finished |
| 18:59.06 | TheMasterMind1 | great |
| 18:59.16 | kergoth | okay food time |
| 18:59.28 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth`lunch: in cardmon, also make it give message when cardctl returns 1 |
| 18:59.40 | kergoth`lunch | TheMasterMind1: k |
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| 19:01.40 | hardwire | http://www.beringsea.com/communities/Saint_Paul/events/gfx/barcostume/allattendees2.JPG |
| 19:01.46 | hardwire | halloween.. on the island I frequently go to |
| 19:01.53 | hardwire | I DON'T WANNA GO BACK! |
| 19:02.15 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth`lunch: alarms while suspend works |
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| 19:06.13 | DaJoker | upgraded busybox.. same deal.. |
| 19:06.32 | TheMasterMind1 | DaJoker: reboot |
| 19:06.37 | DaJoker | just did :) |
| 19:06.42 | DaJoker | same deal :) |
| 19:06.42 | TheMasterMind1 | *sigh* |
| 19:06.50 | TheMasterMind1 | ps ax | grep udhcpc |
| 19:06.56 | DaJoker | not running |
| 19:08.07 | DaJoker | noticed I get an apmd error on boot as well |
| 19:08.17 | DaJoker | can't load libapm.so.1 |
| 19:08.26 | TheMasterMind1 | install libpamd |
| 19:08.29 | TheMasterMind1 | libapm1 |
| 19:08.43 | DaJoker | well.. I would if I had *ahem* wireless working :) |
| 19:10.02 | DaJoker | hrmm.. |
| 19:10.04 | DaJoker | very strange.. |
| 19:10.20 | DaJoker | if I run ifdown/ifup from konsole it works.. |
| 19:10.24 | DaJoker | but not on boot.. |
| 19:10.27 | TheMasterMind1 | hmmmm |
| 19:10.30 | TheMasterMind1 | i'll look into it |
| 19:11.01 | DaJoker | # ipkg install libapm1 |
| 19:11.01 | DaJoker | Package libapm1 (3.1.0-4d) installed in root is up to date. |
| 19:13.02 | DaJoker | *sigh* |
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| 19:17.22 | Onyx4 | did you install the regular ifupdown and new busybox -6? |
| 19:17.42 | Onyx4 | mine came up fine at boot |
| 19:17.57 | Onyx4 | but it might be that udhcpc is giving up too soon |
| 19:18.12 | Onyx4 | we might increase the timeout before a re-transmission before giving up |
| 19:20.38 | kergoth`lunch | Onyx4: thats a good idea, particularly since the card may not be fully up and running immediately |
| 19:20.48 | Onyx4 | yep that's what I'm thinking |
| 19:20.57 | Onyx4 | that the link with the wap isn't done completely |
| 19:21.02 | Onyx4 | and it gives up right away |
| 19:22.11 | DaJoker | yeah.. something isn't right with that |
| 19:22.18 | DaJoker | buz under 3.0 it works fine |
| 19:22.32 | DaJoker | but even |
| 19:22.36 | kergoth`lunch | DaJoker: udhcpc should be behaving the same now as under 3.0 |
| 19:22.40 | Onyx4 | did you validate your wireless.opts file? |
| 19:22.51 | DaJoker | my wireless.opts hasn't changed |
| 19:23.15 | kergoth`lunch | DaJoker: after boot |
| 19:23.21 | kergoth`lunch | DaJoker: is the interface UP, but without an ip? |
| 19:23.28 | DaJoker | yep |
| 19:23.34 | kergoth`lunch | DaJoker: does iwconfig show correct config? |
| 19:23.55 | Onyx4 | ok I think I see the problem, normally if we would run udhcpc in the background, it would not give up , it would wait in the background |
| 19:24.00 | DaJoker | kergoth`lunch: yep.. |
| 19:24.10 | Onyx4 | because we run it in foreground (because of a bug with pidfile) it abords if it can't get a lease right away |
| 19:24.17 | kergoth`lunch | Onyx4: then lets fix it. |
| 19:24.20 | kergoth`lunch | Onyx4: (the real bug) |
| 19:24.23 | Onyx4 | so I have to try to see if udhcpc pidfile bug is fixed |
| 19:24.24 | kergoth`lunch | Onyx4: instead of working around it. |
| 19:24.26 | kergoth`lunch | yep |
| 19:24.27 | Onyx4 | maybe it is now :) |
| 19:24.36 | Onyx4 | that would pretty much solve that problem |
| 19:25.26 | DaJoker | would be really convenient if the network app allowed you to ifdown/ifup interfaces :) |
| 19:25.40 | Onyx4 | oh wait a sec, is it possible that it's because udhcpc is combined with busybox? |
| 19:25.46 | Onyx4 | rather than being a standalone binary? |
| 19:25.48 | kergoth`lunch | Onyx4: doubtful |
| 19:25.50 | kergoth`lunch | Onyx4: its the same code |
| 19:25.53 | kergoth`lunch | Onyx4: afaik |
| 19:25.57 | kergoth`lunch | DaJoker: huh? |
| 19:25.58 | kergoth`lunch | DaJoker: it does. |
| 19:25.58 | Onyx4 | #ifdef COMBINED_BINARY |
| 19:25.59 | Onyx4 | int udhcpc_main(int argc, char *argv[]) |
| 19:25.59 | Onyx4 | #else |
| 19:25.59 | Onyx4 | int main(int argc, char *argv[]) |
| 19:25.59 | Onyx4 | #endif |
| 19:26.05 | Onyx4 | there are some stuff about combined in there |
| 19:26.13 | DaJoker | kergoth`lunch: hrm? I'm missing something then.. |
| 19:27.16 | DaJoker | kergoth`lunch: maybe I'm being very dense, but where does it allow that? |
| 19:27.47 | kergoth`lunch | DaJoker: in information on the interface afaicr |
| 19:28.11 | DaJoker | heh.. can't get information about a disconnected interface |
| 19:28.33 | kergoth`lunch | DaJoker: heh. i think ben just fixed that one in cvs |
| 19:28.38 | DaJoker | ah |
| 19:28.47 | kergoth`lunch | :) |
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| 19:30.59 | Onyx4 | awesome, the background bug is fixed |
| 19:31.07 | Onyx4 | so we can go back to just using that normal mode |
| 19:31.11 | kergoth`lunch | Onyx4: nice. push the fix to remove the workaround |
| 19:31.18 | Onyx4 | I'll just need to update ifupdown to change the way I call udhcpc |
| 19:31.21 | kergoth`lunch | right |
| 19:31.23 | kergoth`lunch | :) |
| 19:31.26 | Onyx4 | hold on guys :) |
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| 19:31.52 | Dessimat0r | lo all |
| 19:31.58 | Dessimat0r | Need help using vnc ;) |
| 19:32.12 | Dessimat0r | actually, I'll look at the faq |
| 19:35.10 | Dessimat0r | hmm |
| 19:35.15 | Dessimat0r | I can't do anything on it |
| 19:35.20 | cbok | hey all |
| 19:35.21 | Dessimat0r | when looking through the vnc viewer |
| 19:35.23 | Dessimat0r | lo |
| 19:35.26 | kergoth`lunch | Dessimat0r: then you didnt calibrate |
| 19:35.29 | cbok | how unstable os the 6.dec tree? |
| 19:35.30 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 19:35.36 | cbok | s/os/is |
| 19:35.51 | kergoth`lunch | 6.dec tree? |
| 19:35.52 | Dessimat0r | is there a command to calibrate? |
| 19:35.53 | kergoth`lunch | unstable branch? |
| 19:36.00 | kergoth`lunch | ~lart Dessimat0r |
| 19:36.11 | Dessimat0r | yup |
| 19:36.19 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 19:36.29 | kergoth`lunch | 1) uninstall fbvnvcserver, 2) reinstall fbvncserver, 3) reboot, 4) as the first thing you do with your touchscreen, tap the upper left, then lower right of the screen. 5) start the vnc server |
| 19:36.37 | Dessimat0r | aha, thanks ;)( |
| 19:36.41 | kergoth`lunch | isnt this in an faq? if not, it needs to be |
| 19:36.42 | kergoth`lunch | hmm |
| 19:36.52 | TheMasterMind1 | Dessimat0r: add a faq item on this or i will kill you |
| 19:36.52 | Dessimat0r | dunno, openzaurus is down |
| 19:36.56 | Dessimat0r | I've just bee there |
| 19:36.57 | kergoth`lunch | lol |
| 19:36.59 | Dessimat0r | been |
| 19:37.02 | cbok | ./official/unstable/feed - 6-dec-02 |
| 19:37.08 | TheMasterMind1 | i've told atleast 5 people to do so already |
| 19:37.08 | Dessimat0r | openzaurus.org |
| 19:37.09 | Dessimat0r | ;) |
| 19:37.20 | TheMasterMind1 | Dessimat0r: what about openzaurus.sf.net |
| 19:37.36 | cbok | sf works |
| 19:37.37 | cbok | tmm |
| 19:37.40 | Onyx4 | ok I just tested my new ifupdown package, works fine! I'm pushing... |
| 19:37.44 | kergoth`lunch | openzaurus.org resolves to openzaurus.sf.net... |
| 19:37.48 | kergoth`lunch | should anyway |
| 19:37.50 | Dessimat0r | It won't load for me |
| 19:37.59 | Dessimat0r | openzaurus.sf.net, that is |
| 19:38.24 | cbok | its just u dess |
| 19:38.27 | cbok | works for me |
| 19:38.32 | Dessimat0r | looks like it :/ |
| 19:38.55 | TheMasterMind1 | ok, so.. issues as of now are: |
| 19:38.55 | Dessimat0r | It timeouts |
| 19:38.58 | Dessimat0r | other sites work fine |
| 19:39.06 | kergoth`lunch | TheMasterMind1: hwclock init script |
| 19:39.09 | Onyx4 | ok bk pull and rebuild ifupdown |
| 19:39.11 | kergoth`lunch | TheMasterMind1: sdcontrol |
| 19:39.16 | kergoth`lunch | TheMasterMind1: cardmon |
| 19:39.18 | kergoth`lunch | .. |
| 19:39.20 | Onyx4 | make SUBDIRS=packages/ifupdown clean |
| 19:39.21 | kergoth`lunch | anything else? |
| 19:40.23 | Onyx4 | DaJoker: you still here? |
| 19:40.40 | DaJoker | yeah.. |
| 19:40.45 | Onyx4 | http://onyx4.dhs.org/feed/oz/ifupdown_0.6.4-7_arm.ipk |
| 19:40.47 | Onyx4 | try that |
| 19:40.52 | Onyx4 | install it and reboot |
| 19:40.55 | DaJoker | aight |
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| 19:41.30 | Dessimat0r | TheMasterMind1: Timeouts ;) |
| 19:41.39 | Dessimat0r | ah, screen was scrolled up |
| 19:41.42 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 19:41.57 | kergoth`lunch | hey jmhodges |
| 19:42.09 | Dessimat0r | openzaurus.sf.net seems to work now |
| 19:42.17 | Dessimat0r | looks like the NTL proxy was being screwy again |
| 19:42.20 | Onyx4 | kergoth`lunch: I noticed that we're only providing jumpx and handwriting, not keyboard anymore? |
| 19:42.29 | kergoth`lunch | Onyx4: you noticed wrong. |
| 19:42.35 | kergoth`lunch | Onyx4: multikey is b0rked |
| 19:42.40 | kergoth`lunch | Onyx4: it isnt listed, but its installed |
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| 19:42.46 | kergoth`lunch | heh |
| 19:42.48 | Onyx4 | kergoth`lunch: ah.. what's the problem? |
| 19:42.53 | kergoth`lunch | Onyx4: if i knew, i'd fix it. |
| 19:42.57 | Onyx4 | ok |
| 19:43.03 | kergoth`lunch | Onyx4: feel free to research it |
| 19:43.08 | Onyx4 | guess we might just install regular keyboard if we can't fix multikey |
| 19:43.12 | kergoth`lunch | no |
| 19:43.14 | kergoth`lunch | you dont get it |
| 19:43.15 | kergoth`lunch | keyboard is b0rked too |
| 19:43.16 | kergoth`lunch | :) |
| 19:43.23 | kergoth`lunch | something weird is going on |
| 19:43.30 | Onyx4 | mm ok |
| 19:43.32 | kergoth`lunch | hehe |
| 19:44.22 | Dessimat0r | faq submitted |
| 19:44.23 | Onyx4 | the bug about the battery warning when plugging AC is gone |
| 19:44.24 | Onyx4 | w00t |
| 19:44.43 | Onyx4 | not sure if that's cause of the kernel patch for battery |
| 19:44.46 | Onyx4 | or just got fixed in opie |
| 19:45.43 | TheMasterMind1 | cool, resumeguard |
| 19:46.59 | Onyx4 | like it heh? :) |
| 19:47.24 | Onyx4 | now it's real easy to include QTE apps in buildroot |
| 19:47.35 | Onyx4 | I just copied the knights makefile, changed a couple of lines, that's it |
| 19:48.37 | DaJoker | Onyx4: nope.. that didn't do it :( |
| 19:50.07 | Onyx4 | did udhcpc die? |
| 19:50.13 | jurrie | Master: I'm the guy whose Z was dead following flash.... sent it back last Wednesday... received a living Z today |
| 19:50.17 | DaJoker | seems to.. |
| 19:50.41 | Onyx4 | or it never starts it |
| 19:51.04 | DaJoker | no, it starts.. |
| 19:51.23 | DaJoker | I saw it before opie got loaded.. |
| 19:51.32 | Onyx4 | did it say something? |
| 19:51.32 | DaJoker | however, it seems to start networks before pcmcia |
| 19:51.36 | TheMasterMind1 | jurrie: great! |
| 19:51.39 | NightStar | Anyone got a solution to make[4]: *** [passwordbase_p.h] Segmentation fault |
| 19:51.40 | jurrie | is there a doc (Sharp or otherwise) that details the boot & flashing layouts/procedures. I fear losing my Z again if I flash again |
| 19:51.42 | kergoth`lunch | DaJoker: who cares? |
| 19:51.47 | kergoth`lunch | DaJoker: pcmcia *starts* the network |
| 19:51.51 | TheMasterMind1 | jurrie: ask kergoth |
| 19:51.53 | Onyx4 | DaJoker: are you sure you don't have "auto" selected by any chance? |
| 19:51.54 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth`lunch: answer jurrie |
| 19:51.55 | kergoth`lunch | DaJoker: you dont want the network scripts auto upping the interface. |
| 19:51.57 | Onyx4 | in your interfaces file? |
| 19:52.00 | kergoth`lunch | DaJoker: do not use auto |
| 19:52.05 | DaJoker | no, it's not auto |
| 19:52.15 | Onyx4 | you want to let pcmcia bring up the card |
| 19:52.19 | kergoth`lunch | DaJoker: then its coming up when pcmcia brings it up, and not before |
| 19:52.26 | kergoth`lunch | jurrie: http://more.sbc.co.jp/slj/index.asp |
| 19:52.31 | kergoth`lunch | jurrie: flash procedures are documented there |
| 19:52.41 | kergoth`lunch | jurrie: romimage and ospack include bootloader, dangerous to flash |
| 19:52.50 | kergoth`lunch | jurrie: flashing zImage and initrd.bin is completely safe |
| 19:52.56 | DaJoker | hrmm.. |
| 19:53.04 | DaJoker | well pcmcia isn't bringing it up on boot |
| 19:53.14 | Onyx4 | DaJoker: once thing you should try, reinstall the ifupdown package from command line with -reinstall and answer "y" to overwrite the config files |
| 19:53.17 | kergoth`lunch | DaJoker: it doesnt care about first boot |
| 19:53.23 | DaJoker | however, if I run ifdown/ifup from konsole, it works.. if I eject and reinsert, it works.. |
| 19:53.40 | kergoth`lunch | DaJoker: what it does care about, is when cardmgr first starts, it *should* pick up an insert event from the card even if there wasnt a physical event.. |
| 19:53.58 | NightStar | If it works on reinsert it should work on boot, shouldn't it? |
| 19:54.00 | kergoth`lunch | DaJoker: i'd recommend running ifdown on the interface, syslog -C, then /etc/init.d/pcmcia stop; /etc/init.d/pcmcia start; |
| 19:54.06 | kergoth`lunch | DaJoker: then run logread |
| 19:54.09 | kergoth`lunch | DaJoker: and see what events cardmgr picks up |
| 19:54.27 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth`lunch: he's saying that its working everywhere cept for during boot |
| 19:54.33 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm, nm |
| 19:54.34 | kergoth`lunch | TheMasterMind1: i know exactly what he's saying. |
| 19:54.38 | kergoth`lunch | heh |
| 19:54.39 | TheMasterMind1 | yea, nm |
| 19:54.42 | kergoth`lunch | :) |
| 19:54.46 | DaJoker | hehe.. |
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| 19:55.11 | jurrie | kergoth`lunch: thanks.... hopefully I won't have a toasted Z again |
| 19:55.18 | NightStar | Opie uic passwordbase_p.ui seems to still be broken... |
| 19:55.19 | kergoth`lunch | jurrie: np |
| 19:55.24 | kergoth`lunch | jurrie: so again, if you want to go back to sharp |
| 19:55.30 | kergoth`lunch | NightStar: theres nothing wrong with it. |
| 19:55.36 | kergoth`lunch | NightStar: you probably copied a qt3 uic binary or something. |
| 19:55.46 | kergoth`lunch | jurrie: use romburst to break up ospack/romimage |
| 19:55.51 | TheMasterMind1 | NightStar: compiled uic segfaults, copy a qt2 uic binary over it |
| 19:55.52 | kergoth`lunch | jurrie: and flash sharp with a zImage and initrd.bin as well |
| 19:55.56 | kergoth`lunch | jurrie: which is safe |
| 19:56.15 | kergoth`lunch | we need a proper, safe, how to go back to sharp faq |
| 19:56.16 | TheMasterMind1 | jurrie: if you want to flash oz, wait a bit, oz3.1rc1 is coming out today |
| 19:56.20 | jurrie | I went from Sharp->OZ3->attempt to flash OZ3== dead Z |
| 19:56.27 | kergoth`lunch | jurrie: thats not possible. |
| 19:56.33 | NightStar | It's the qt-2.3.4-beta2 one... |
| 19:56.34 | kergoth`lunch | jurrie: OZ3 flash doesnt touch anything that could cause damage. |
| 19:56.36 | jurrie | if you say so |
| 19:56.39 | kergoth`lunch | NightStar: uic is *built* |
| 19:56.43 | kergoth`lunch | NightStar: and the *built* uic is hosed |
| 19:56.49 | kergoth`lunch | NightStar: the one in staging, and in qt, and in uicmoc |
| 19:56.59 | kergoth`lunch | NightStar: you need to copy a working qt2 uic binary |
| 19:57.08 | kergoth`lunch | NightStar: then itll work |
| 19:57.29 | DaJoker | hrmm.. |
| 19:57.32 | DaJoker | strange.. |
| 19:57.46 | Onyx4 | I tested that udhcpc stays running when there's no wifi link , when the link comes up, it gets an IP |
| 19:57.53 | jurrie | I'll try oz3.1rc1... I much prefer OZZ&Opie's look & feel, not to mention backup/restore philosophy |
| 19:58.12 | NightStar | I did a find and they all look the same... |
| 19:58.24 | TheMasterMind1 | NightStar: type which uic |
| 19:58.27 | TheMasterMind1 | what does it return |
| 19:58.29 | jurrie | not necessarily sold on Flash vs. RAM usage though |
| 19:59.07 | NightStar | /usr/bin/uic |
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| 19:59.37 | Freddie_ | hello |
| 19:59.58 | Freddie_ | anyone here ever try to sync openzaurus to qtopiadesktop/outlook? |
| 19:59.58 | NightStar | So I copy /usr/bin/uic to buildroot-oz/build/qt-2.3.4-beta2/bin/uic? |
| 20:00.23 | TheMasterMind1 | yes |
| 20:00.39 | nobse | Freddie_: use qtopia desktop 1.6beta2 |
| 20:00.53 | Freddie_ | nobse: That is what I am doing. it keeps dumping core |
| 20:00.57 | Onyx4 | networksetup has problems settings up the encryption wep keys |
| 20:01.07 | Onyx4 | if I set them, it doesn't even read them back right into his program |
| 20:01.08 | NightStar | Or actually /usr/lib/qt3-gcc2.96/bin/uic |
| 20:01.14 | nobse | Freddie_: works fine here |
| 20:01.15 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: did you report it? |
| 20:01.20 | Freddie_ | well, no actual coredump (it is on windows) but it crashes every time I try to sync |
| 20:01.24 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: no just found out about it this morning |
| 20:01.25 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: ben's working on networksetup right now, tell him |
| 20:01.30 | Freddie_ | nobse: Are you syncing to outlook? |
| 20:01.30 | TheMasterMind1 | he's in #zaurus |
| 20:01.55 | nobse | Freddie_: I'm crazy, but not _so_ crazy :) Using Qtopia Desktop under Linux. |
| 20:02.01 | Freddie_ | yeah |
| 20:02.10 | Freddie_ | it is their code that talks to outlook that is crashing I believe |
| 20:02.22 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: hm, same thing is happening to me. i don't pick up a dhcp on reboot. |
| 20:02.24 | Freddie_ | so the fact that it is working for you doesn't really do me much good |
| 20:02.25 | Freddie_ | :) |
| 20:02.50 | nobse | Freddie_: hehe... sure, but you know what the "beta" in the version means? |
| 20:02.53 | Freddie_ | I am looking for anyone that has gotten the outlook part to work |
| 20:03.06 | Freddie_ | nobse: I do. But a lot of times people figure out workarounds |
| 20:03.11 | Freddie_ | which is why I am asking |
| 20:03.21 | nobse | can't help you, sorry |
| 20:03.29 | Freddie_ | I used to use Intellisync SL to sync - it worked perfectly |
| 20:03.35 | Freddie_ | then the opie team decided to nuke it |
| 20:03.56 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth`lunch, Onyx4: running /etc/init.d/pcmcia stop then start runs udhcpc and gets a lease |
| 20:04.07 | TheMasterMind1 | on bootup it doesn't.. |
| 20:04.27 | Onyx4 | interesting |
| 20:04.31 | TheMasterMind1 | very. |
| 20:04.47 | Onyx4 | now my cardctl eject command hung up |
| 20:04.55 | NightStar | What if your wlan0 was aliased to your wireless card's kernel module. |
| 20:05.11 | trilluser | TheMasterMind1: Is the link in the welcome message the link to 3.1RC1 |
| 20:05.55 | Onyx4 | I had to manually kill udhcpc strange |
| 20:06.01 | TheMasterMind1 | trilluser: no |
| 20:06.35 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: does cardctl call ifdown ? |
| 20:06.37 | TheMasterMind1 | i don't think it is |
| 20:06.39 | TheMasterMind1 | and it should be |
| 20:06.46 | jurrie | Master: didn't you mention last time that someone else ended up with a dead Z following flash? |
| 20:07.01 | TheMasterMind1 | jurrie: com[plex] did, but i think he was doing a sharp rom flash |
| 20:07.08 | trilluser | TheMasterMind1: Ok.. Does the RC1 contain any updates changes to the wireless CF handling, my D-link card keeps going on/off and acts strange. |
| 20:07.10 | *** part/#openzaurus trilluser (~Laze@212.10.10.204) |
| 20:07.19 | jurrie | ah |
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| 20:07.35 | TheMasterMind1 | trilluser: hmm, actring strange how |
| 20:07.39 | jurrie | avoid their ROM... it's got sharp points |
| 20:07.40 | trilluser | Test |
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| 20:07.48 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: did udhcpc die on reboot ? |
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| 20:08.58 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: i don't know, how could i tell |
| 20:09.16 | Laze | TheMasterMind1: Sorry had to change my handle, it was prev. trilluser. Trillian just acted strange. |
| 20:09.22 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 20:09.32 | TheMasterMind1 | Laze: how does it act strange? |
| 20:09.32 | Onyx4 | if I reboot, my card comes up |
| 20:09.38 | Onyx4 | do you have prism2? |
| 20:09.42 | Onyx4 | how about dajoker? |
| 20:09.47 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: hmm, no, its an orinoco based |
| 20:09.57 | Onyx4 | I wonder if it's related to that |
| 20:10.03 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: i'm still running my image from two days ago |
| 20:10.08 | Laze | TheMasterMind1: The CF D-Link 660W is sometimes reconized as at "anomyous memory card" and some times as Zlink |
| 20:10.14 | TheMasterMind1 | Laze: hmmm |
| 20:10.15 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: but you have the new -6 busybox? |
| 20:10.19 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: probably not |
| 20:10.25 | Onyx4 | ohhh!! then you need that |
| 20:10.27 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 20:10.31 | Onyx4 | otherwise you use the busybox ifupdown! |
| 20:10.34 | TheMasterMind1 | no |
| 20:10.37 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm before that |
| 20:10.39 | NightStar | I thought that orinoco and prism2 drivers were pretty much interchangable... |
| 20:10.47 | Onyx4 | http://onyx4.dhs.org/feed/oz/busybox_0.61.pre-20021208-6_arm.ipk |
| 20:10.48 | Onyx4 | try that |
| 20:10.54 | Onyx4 | http://onyx4.dhs.org/feed/oz/ |
| 20:10.56 | Onyx4 | or my feed |
| 20:10.58 | Onyx4 | do an ipkg upgrade |
| 20:11.07 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm running the original ifupdown |
| 20:11.10 | nobse | Buffalo Wireless CF card should work fine under OZ, or I'm wrong? |
| 20:11.19 | TheMasterMind1 | before we were "using" busybox's |
| 20:11.24 | Onyx4 | I see |
| 20:11.31 | TheMasterMind1 | nobse: should.. if it doesn't give us the output of cardctl ident |
| 20:12.41 | nobse | TheMasterMind1: I want to buy a card which works out of the box :) |
| 20:12.42 | ljp_work | I think I'll pull down gpe cvs tonight |
| 20:12.50 | TheMasterMind1 | nobse: heh, |
| 20:12.52 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot wifi |
| 20:12.54 | | i heard wifi is see wireless or for a small compact non-port-blocking card, get one of these a) linksys wcf12 for only $65 shipped from buy.com b) netgear MA701NA for $65 shipped from buy.com c) socket LOW POWER wlan (amazing battery life) for $160 + shipping on buy.com |
| 20:12.57 | Laze | TheMasterMind1: Just playing with it now.. When its finally up and running it normally just works for 5-10 min - i have read through openzaurus and many more resources and it alle seems to be very strang. |
| 20:13.22 | nobse | TheMasterMind1: thx |
| 20:13.38 | TheMasterMind1 | Laze: and it works fine under the sharp rom? |
| 20:13.46 | NightStar | The linksys blocks stylus. |
| 20:13.54 | TheMasterMind1 | no it doesn't |
| 20:14.04 | TheMasterMind1 | the wcf11 does, the wcf12 doesn't |
| 20:14.21 | NightStar | Oh really... Yea, mine is a wcf11. |
| 20:14.34 | TheMasterMind1 | the wcf12 is a nice card |
| 20:14.42 | Onyx4 | I like netgear ma701 too |
| 20:14.42 | NightStar | Arrg... :) |
| 20:14.46 | Onyx4 | or 401 can't remember |
| 20:14.56 | Onyx4 | the CF one |
| 20:15.15 | TheMasterMind1 | oh shit |
| 20:15.16 | TheMasterMind1 | wtf |
| 20:15.21 | TheMasterMind1 | my screen fucked up |
| 20:15.22 | TheMasterMind1 | ARGH |
| 20:15.34 | Onyx4 | keyboard input? |
| 20:15.36 | Laze | TheMasterMind1: Haven't tried it yet, didn't want to flash with the sharp rom and then flash back to the RC1 - decided to wait for the new one to see if i could help me out. Just as side note, how do i change the name it shows (just cosmetic i know, but i looks better when showing in of to the IPAQ show offs) |
| 20:15.44 | NightStar | Under opie, what is wellenreiter? and Y/N recommended? |
| 20:16.01 | Onyx4 | pick n, it's a wireless scanner like kismet I think |
| 20:16.28 | TheMasterMind1 | Laze: what name what shows |
| 20:16.33 | Onyx4 | not working completely for now |
| 20:16.35 | TheMasterMind1 | NightStar: do n |
| 20:16.50 | NightStar | Darn.. I copy uic over and just get a different error message on opie. |
| 20:17.13 | Laze | TheMasterMind1: Sorry, the little media inserted applet, which also helps ejecting the card. |
| 20:17.39 | NightStar | passwordbase_p.cpp:137: no matching function for call to `QLabel::setText (int)' |
| 20:18.02 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: I wonder if it fails because the interface is not "created" yet, like the driver has not insmod all the way thru or something like that |
| 20:18.06 | TheMasterMind1 | Laze: oh, you can't change what is shown in there, its read directly off of the card, which is why it doesn't make any sense for it to be detecting it as different things |
| 20:18.09 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: do udhcpc would fail saying no such interface |
| 20:18.17 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: i think that might be it |
| 20:18.27 | Onyx4 | so I would need to make a sleep 1 call in ifupdown |
| 20:18.29 | Onyx4 | before calling it |
| 20:18.31 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 20:18.39 | TheMasterMind1 | that's a hack |
| 20:18.45 | Onyx4 | hehe yeah |
| 20:18.47 | TheMasterMind1 | and it'll be very annoying when its not booting and its used |
| 20:20.46 | Laze | TheMasterMind1: It shows up as: "Z-Com XI825 11MB/s 802.1" |
| 20:21.07 | TheMasterMind1 | hmmm |
| 20:21.14 | TheMasterMind1 | do a "cardctl ident" in konsole |
| 20:21.32 | NightStar | Hey Mastermind, I copied that uic over, but opie build still chokes on passwordbase_p.cpp, I think? |
| 20:21.48 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 20:22.08 | NightStar | All looks like warning messages... |
| 20:22.41 | Onyx4 | you can check the /etc/pcmcia/network.opts ? |
| 20:23.08 | Laze | TheMasterMind1: Product info: "D-link", "DCF-660W", "" | Manfid: 0xd601, 0x005 | Function: 6(network) - does this help? |
| 20:23.21 | NightStar | I'm gonna try mrproper on opie, maybe that bad uic messed something else up. |
| 20:26.22 | Laze | TheMasterMind1: Another strange thing, the wireless network applet seems to have a ok connection and everything is up and running. But the "Network" under settings only see a Wlan |
| 20:28.02 | Onyx4 | yeah networksetup is not working too well |
| 20:28.06 | DaJoker | Onyx4: wireless is coming up on boot now.. I had to remove ifupdown completely and reinstall it for some reason.. |
| 20:28.23 | Onyx4 | DaJoker: yes probably the config file |
| 20:28.47 | DaJoker | you would figure just reinstalling over top would work.. |
| 20:28.51 | DaJoker | very strange.. |
| 20:29.02 | NightStar | nope, I still can't compile opie. I'm lost. |
| 20:29.22 | Onyx4 | well mastermind hit the problem too, so we'll see if he can fix it that way as well or not |
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| 20:33.03 | Onyx4 | mmm where is ifdown? it's not in ifupdown, unless it's done at postinst? |
| 20:33.13 | TheMasterMind1 | ? |
| 20:33.17 | TheMasterMind1 | ifdown is a symlink to ifup |
| 20:33.27 | Onyx4 | but the symlink isn't in the data.tar.gz |
| 20:33.29 | Onyx4 | in the ipk |
| 20:33.43 | Onyx4 | I wonder if that's part of the problem |
| 20:33.50 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: hm, something fucked up it seems |
| 20:33.56 | Onyx4 | ok the postinst does the symlink |
| 20:34.07 | Onyx4 | but I think I'd rather see the link in the data part |
| 20:34.13 | Onyx4 | so it knows it's a file that ifupdown owns |
| 20:34.28 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:34.29 | TheMasterMind1 | wtf? |
| 20:34.38 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:34.40 | TheMasterMind1 | its in the postinst |
| 20:34.42 | TheMasterMind1 | but why |
| 20:34.46 | TheMasterMind1 | why not in the targz |
| 20:34.51 | Onyx4 | yeah I'll fix that |
| 20:34.53 | Onyx4 | I don't like that |
| 20:35.14 | Laze | TheMasterMind1: Any idea whats going on with that wireless card of mine? |
| 20:35.46 | TheMasterMind1 | Laze: no clue.. it might be fixed in 3.1 cuz we did a lot of revamping of cf stuff |
| 20:37.35 | Laze | TheMasterMind1: I really hope so because i love the job you guys have done. |
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| 20:41.21 | ciaolinux | 4/topic |
| 20:41.35 | Onyx4 | ok ifupdown is fixed in bk now |
| 20:41.41 | Onyx4 | for the ifdown symlink thing |
| 20:42.10 | Onyx4 | http://onyx4.dhs.org/feed/oz/ifupdown_0.6.4-7a_arm.ipk |
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| 20:45.05 | Onyx4 | you need to install the new ifupdown with -force-overwrite |
| 20:45.19 | Onyx4 | because it doesn't know what file owns ifdown I guess |
| 20:47.21 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: when you boot and look at the lsmod, did the module for the network card load up? |
| 20:52.39 | kergoth`lunch | yo |
| 20:52.42 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: when you lunch a movie with xmms-e, does it center it and put fullscreen? |
| 20:52.45 | kergoth | had a meeting |
| 20:56.01 | ljp_work | was it a bored meeting? |
| 20:56.11 | kergoth | YES |
| 20:56.15 | kergoth | could barely stay awak |
| 20:56.15 | kergoth | e |
| 20:56.35 | ljp_work | shoul dhave been play8ing sfcave |
| 20:56.47 | kergoth | couldnt, people could have seen my screen |
| 20:56.50 | kergoth | otherwise iw ould have |
| 20:56.50 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:56.52 | ljp_work | my typing is getting worse |
| 21:00.45 | prpplague | kergoth: we got an email from deb |
| 21:00.51 | kergoth | prpplague: ah, and? |
| 21:01.00 | prpplague | kergoth: looks like they are still interested |
| 21:01.07 | prpplague | kergoth: i got to send her some specs |
| 21:01.11 | kergoth | prpplague: whew, good |
| 21:01.15 | prpplague | kergoth: phone conference tomorrow |
| 21:01.20 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: finally added a call to dupecheck in image creation |
| 21:01.41 | prpplague | kergoth: i'll telling you dude, if digi jumps on this print server, it will be a cash cow |
| 21:02.10 | Dessimat0r | ljp_work: heh, my typing is awful too |
| 21:02.29 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 21:02.31 | TheMasterMind1 | argh |
| 21:02.33 | TheMasterMind1 | can't find my Z's cd |
| 21:02.35 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm, |
| 21:02.37 | TheMasterMind1 | the sharp Z cd has hancom on it? |
| 21:02.39 | TheMasterMind1 | yep |
| 21:02.43 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: nope |
| 21:02.45 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: ok |
| 21:02.47 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: fix 1) hwclock 2) sdcontrol/cardmon and we're set |
| 21:02.49 | TheMasterMind1 | ben fixed most of networksetup and backup |
| 21:02.51 | TheMasterMind1 | udhcpc issues are being sorted out |
| 21:02.58 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: k, i'm on it |
| 21:03.03 | TheMasterMind1 | goddamn |
| 21:03.05 | TheMasterMind1 | vmware dies when i put the Z into the cradle |
| 21:03.07 | TheMasterMind1 | good |
| 21:03.09 | TheMasterMind1 | make[2]: [/home/agupta/zaurus/buildroot/output/ipks/xmms-e-skin-macosx-20021209-2a_arm.ipk] Error 1 (ignored) |
| 21:03.12 | TheMasterMind1 | what's with that? never used to happen before |
| 21:03.14 | TheMasterMind1 | nah, fix hwclock and stuff first |
| 21:03.28 | TheMasterMind1 | i tested alarm, works great |
| 21:04.01 | ljp_work | I want some real email for a change |
| 21:05.06 | ljp_work | thats not real |
| 21:06.29 | ljp_work | _not_ real! |
| 21:06.47 | ljp_work | I mean, I want email like with something really important in it |
| 21:06.48 | kergoth | there, thats real |
| 21:07.03 | ljp_work | something I must decide on, that effects many many other peoples |
| 21:07.26 | ljp_work | like, 'we must fire 20,000 people.. you decide who' |
| 21:08.32 | ljp_work | you know.. that kinda stuff |
| 21:09.52 | Freddie_ | ljp decides what order of colors |
| 21:12.33 | ljp_work | ibot: lart freddie_ |
| 21:12.49 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: I looked at the tinyX build, it puts stuff into usr, but it doesn't seem to install the X headers into staging |
| 21:13.11 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: yea, i've noticed. everything depending on tinyx uses includes directly from X |
| 21:13.13 | TheMasterMind1 | 's source |
| 21:13.27 | Onyx4 | mmm yeah that's not too good |
| 21:13.31 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:13.31 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:13.33 | TheMasterMind1 | yep. |
| 21:13.41 | TheMasterMind1 | just move exports/{lib,include} to staging |
| 21:13.51 | TheMasterMind1 | and change xmms-e, fluxbox, icewm, xmonobut |
| 21:13.53 | TheMasterMind1 | and you're set |
| 21:13.54 | TheMasterMind1 | :) |
| 21:13.58 | Onyx4 | and fix the staging to copy the right things in the right place |
| 21:14.04 | TheMasterMind1 | and don't do a makeinstall in tinyx's staging |
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| 21:15.47 | Onyx4 | xmms-e built fine here btw |
| 21:15.49 | Onyx4 | I just tried it |
| 21:15.57 | TheMasterMind1 | yea i know |
| 21:16.05 | TheMasterMind1 | but its using x includes from inside X |
| 21:16.06 | Onyx4 | but you say it has bugs? |
| 21:16.10 | TheMasterMind1 | yea its buggy |
| 21:16.17 | TheMasterMind1 | mplayer and xmms-e are both segfaulting |
| 21:16.20 | Onyx4 | and won't provide fullscreen support for mplayer? |
| 21:16.29 | TheMasterMind1 | and xmms-e has playlist problems and it plays movies sideways |
| 21:16.31 | TheMasterMind1 | yep |
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| 21:16.50 | Onyx4 | ah so it's not really usable then I guess |
| 21:16.51 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: there's a patch we're using right now with mplayer to disable sdl video playback, but i think there's a better way to do it |
| 21:17.08 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: remember back when we were able to do sdl for audio but not for video? we want to do that again |
| 21:17.17 | TheMasterMind1 | i think basically you remove -D_main=SDL_Main |
| 21:17.32 | Onyx4 | well just use fbdev :) |
| 21:17.36 | TheMasterMind1 | because with that its slower and a lot flakier |
| 21:17.37 | Onyx4 | that will not use SDL for video |
| 21:17.40 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: no, it will |
| 21:17.54 | TheMasterMind1 | the SDL_main thing sets up a basic qtopia program |
| 21:18.00 | Onyx4 | well it seems to be real fast now |
| 21:18.02 | TheMasterMind1 | that happens even if you're using -vo fbdev |
| 21:18.22 | TheMasterMind1 | thats what needsto be done, i haven't looked into it much yet |
| 21:18.28 | Onyx4 | ok if we're setup as a qtopia program, I think all we would need is to blank the screen and refresh it upon exit |
| 21:18.54 | TheMasterMind1 | no we dont' want that. thats the thing |
| 21:19.01 | TheMasterMind1 | because then input via xmms doesn't work |
| 21:19.24 | Dilb | re |
| 21:19.42 | Onyx4 | mmm you may just want to compile mplayer without the sdl video plugin then, but still enable sdl for audio |
| 21:19.55 | TheMasterMind1 | that's what i just said :) |
| 21:19.56 | Onyx4 | it may require hacking the configure script |
| 21:19.59 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 21:20.02 | TheMasterMind1 | i'll look into it |
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| 21:21.38 | Onyx4 | I'll be real happy the day we have a successful divx player heh |
| 21:21.53 | TheMasterMind1 | heheh |
| 21:22.00 | TheMasterMind1 | we're getting there |
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| 21:22.19 | Onyx4 | then I can actually start using my Z for what I bought it for :) |
| 21:22.40 | Onyx4 | should I put op2 into bk? |
| 21:22.44 | TheMasterMind1 | sure |
| 21:22.46 | Onyx4 | even if we're working on mplayer |
| 21:22.47 | TheMasterMind1 | put xine into bk you mean |
| 21:22.53 | Onyx4 | I've got some ipks that would work for us |
| 21:22.57 | TheMasterMind1 | you can compile xine with --without-x and then we can use it with op2 |
| 21:23.02 | Onyx4 | I'd do just like I was doing with konqe |
| 21:23.05 | TheMasterMind1 | oh.. |
| 21:23.08 | Onyx4 | just drop the ipk since it's too complex to build |
| 21:23.09 | TheMasterMind1 | how about we actually compile it? |
| 21:23.17 | Onyx4 | we could try |
| 21:23.24 | Onyx4 | I can see if the xine api is stable again now |
| 21:23.46 | Onyx4 | i know that they have lots of patches to build those op2 codecs |
| 21:23.55 | Onyx4 | so we may not be able to build them |
| 21:25.21 | kergoth | bout done with hwclock here |
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| 21:25.48 | kergoth | i'm merging hwclockfirst and hwclock from the hwclock/debian package into a single hwclock script |
| 21:25.51 | kergoth | should be sufficient |
| 21:26.30 | kergoth | now the thing is, opie's timezone handling may not be sane enough for this to all work cleanly |
| 21:26.37 | kergoth | the shutdown piece will work, but i dunno about the startup piece |
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| 21:29.05 | Dilb | Onyx4: ? |
| 21:29.28 | Onyx4 | Dilb: ? |
| 21:29.53 | Dilb | Onyx4: what do you want to do ? |
| 21:30.14 | Onyx4 | build our own op2 packages |
| 21:30.27 | Onyx4 | so build the proper xine-libs |
| 21:30.34 | Onyx4 | then the front-end (that's the easy part) |
| 21:30.43 | Dilb | Onyx4: and why ? |
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| 21:30.58 | Onyx4 | so that we can add it to OZ |
| 21:31.03 | TheMasterMind1 | Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. |
| 21:31.03 | TheMasterMind1 | 0x401eaed0 in QGDict::unlink_ascii () from /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/libqte.so.2 |
| 21:31.03 | TheMasterMind1 | (gdb) bt |
| 21:31.03 | TheMasterMind1 | #0 0x401eaed0 in QGDict::unlink_ascii () from /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/libqte.so.2 |
| 21:31.03 | TheMasterMind1 | #1 0x401eb1a0 in QGDict::remove_ascii () from /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/libqte.so.2 |
| 21:31.06 | TheMasterMind1 | mplayer's segfault |
| 21:31.08 | kergoth | Dilb: for example, i want a build for my gcc3.2 built rom. |
| 21:31.09 | Onyx4 | and people don't have to fetch it from various places |
| 21:31.44 | Dilb | kergoth: if gcc 3.2 is installed on the skiffcluster, I could compile one |
| 21:32.00 | Dessimat0r | don't the mplayer libs conflict with the mplayer ones too? you could probably change that |
| 21:32.09 | TheMasterMind1 | ? |
| 21:32.10 | kergoth | Dilb: dont know whether it is or not. our buildroot automates most of it, saves headaches |
| 21:32.34 | Onyx4 | Dessimat0r: no, the op2 codecs packages needs to not ship libogg and vorbis with it |
| 21:32.38 | Onyx4 | it should be seperate since we have our own |
| 21:32.44 | Dessimat0r | aha |
| 21:32.46 | Dessimat0r | okay |
| 21:32.49 | Onyx4 | the op2 codecs should just contain the xine-libs |
| 21:33.01 | Onyx4 | that way at least people could use both at the same time |
| 21:33.10 | kergoth | okay our busybox package has a spiffy hwclock startup scrip tnow |
| 21:33.15 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: great |
| 21:33.16 | Dilb | Onyx4: I currently compile then against tremor, is it what you use ? |
| 21:33.16 | TheMasterMind1 | push |
| 21:33.25 | Onyx4 | yes tremor too |
| 21:33.44 | Onyx4 | so OZ users would just need the xine-libs and the op2 program itself |
| 21:34.04 | Dilb | and libmad, libao ? |
| 21:34.11 | Onyx4 | libmad yes |
| 21:34.16 | Onyx4 | libao we dont have it yet |
| 21:34.18 | TheMasterMind1 | Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. |
| 21:34.19 | TheMasterMind1 | Cannot access memory at address 0x403271a8 |
| 21:34.19 | TheMasterMind1 | (gdb) bt |
| 21:34.19 | TheMasterMind1 | Cannot access memory at address 0x403271a8 |
| 21:34.19 | TheMasterMind1 | run |
| 21:34.20 | TheMasterMind1 | fun |
| 21:35.12 | Dilb | Onyx4: I think we should discuss about it tomorrow, I currently have to do some more tests with a new op2 |
| 21:35.40 | Onyx4 | Dilb: are you one of the op2 developpers with harlekin? |
| 21:36.00 | Dilb | Onyx4: I take care of codecs compilation / patches |
| 21:36.39 | Onyx4 | Dilb: cool, it'd be nice if we could use the OZ buildroot to build them, it's a great environment for buildings packages that depends on a bunch of other stuff |
| 21:37.30 | Onyx4 | Dilb: do you have a patch against a recent cvs of xine-libs to make it compile? |
| 21:38.07 | Dilb | Onyx4: that's why we should discuss about it tomorrow (unfortunately I will be away between friday and monday, but after that, I will have time again until end of December) |
| 21:38.30 | Onyx4 | Dilb: ok sounds good... |
| 21:39.07 | Dilb | Onyx4: I currently use CVS from 30th November, but the API is still evolving in CVS |
| 21:40.28 | Dilb | and I'm not 100% sure, if it is the best time to include op2+xine-libs in your build tree |
| 21:46.33 | Onyx4 | well as long as the way to compile it doesn't change much that'd be no problem |
| 21:46.49 | Onyx4 | we can just make it compile for now but don't start distributing the ipks until it's working fine |
| 21:49.45 | Onyx4 | what cvs modules do I need, just xine-lib? |
| 21:49.49 | Onyx4 | or xine-plugin and xine-output? |
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| 21:54.33 | Dilb | from xine cvs, only xine-lib, and you can start working with the cvs itself, it should compile as I don't change many internal things |
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| 21:59.36 | mickeyl | anyone having a arm-linux-gdb linked again glibc 2.2 handy? the one in <opie>/development/cross-debug is linked against glibc 2.3 |
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| 22:03.09 | mickeyl | kergoth: how can i enable syslogging in oz? |
| 22:03.18 | TheMasterMind1 | mickeyl: syslogd -C |
| 22:03.23 | mickeyl | thanks |
| 22:03.54 | jmhodges | ok so my tab was all blue like someone said my sn |
| 22:03.54 | mickeyl | where will the messages go ? |
| 22:04.06 | jmhodges | does anyone want me? or did they just say hi? :-D |
| 22:04.37 | kergoth | mickeyl: 64k shared memory buffer |
| 22:04.40 | kergoth | mickeyl: run 'logread' to access it |
| 22:04.45 | kergoth | mickeyl: so we dont have extra flash writes.. |
| 22:04.53 | mickeyl | kergoth: very good. thanks. |
| 22:04.57 | kergoth | np |
| 22:06.47 | billytwowilly | jmhodges: HI! |
| 22:08.26 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: you here? |
| 22:09.08 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: http://pd9ee1bd8.dip.t-dialin.net:8001/opie-mediaplayer-codecs_0.5_arm.ipk http://pd9ee1bd8.dip.t-dialin.net:8001/opie-mediaplayer2_0.9.1-20021211_arm.ipk <-- put those two in bk and make a simple thing that copies into output/ipks :) |
| 22:09.11 | billytwowilly | kergoth: Did you ever take a deeper look into that keyboard thing for me? |
| 22:09.18 | TheMasterMind1 | that will make people happy, op2 in the feeds |
| 22:09.24 | kergoth | billytwowilly: no, havent had time |
| 22:09.33 | billytwowilly | kergoth: That's cool. |
| 22:09.42 | billytwowilly | If you get time, I'd appreciate it though. |
| 22:09.42 | jmhodges | billytwowilly: hehe |
| 22:09.47 | jmhodges | billytwowilly: hey |
| 22:10.07 | billytwowilly | jmhodges: It wasn't me before though;) I just felt all guilty for not saying hi, and you asking about it;) |
| 22:10.40 | *** join/#openzaurus pnis (~pnis@caracas-0817.adsl.interware.hu) |
| 22:10.51 | pnis | hi |
| 22:10.58 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis: hey! |
| 22:11.06 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: hi! |
| 22:11.09 | TheMasterMind1 | whats new |
| 22:11.12 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: soon I will send a new changeset |
| 22:11.13 | billytwowilly | pnis: heh, great nick;) |
| 22:11.21 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis: cool, what're you fixing up? |
| 22:11.26 | pnis | billytwowilly: thanks |
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| 22:11.41 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: libmikmod: itfilters are back+speed improvement |
| 22:11.42 | Cloudchaser | hello roge99 |
| 22:11.48 | roge99 | hey hows it going |
| 22:11.51 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: mplayer: asf demuxer is miscompiled by gcc |
| 22:12.07 | Cloudchaser | not too bad thanks ;) how are you doing? |
| 22:12.27 | roge99 | not bad ... home relaxn |
| 22:12.31 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: end removing the slow/bad codecs from codecs.conf iin mplayer |
| 22:12.42 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: but all this is written in the changeset :) |
| 22:12.53 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis: you know how you disabled sdl in mplayer? i think there's a better way to do it by patching up configure scripts or something and that way mplayer will stop crashing. we had it like that before, because of a misconfig in the buildroot it was building mplayer with sdl but not linking it to SDL_Main so audio over sdl worked and video sdl wasn't otuched |
| 22:13.00 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis: great |
| 22:13.44 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: that fix would be perfect |
| 22:13.55 | jmhodges | lol thanks billytwowilly |
| 22:13.55 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: and it won't break other packages? even better :) |
| 22:14.02 | TheMasterMind1 | yep |
| 22:14.14 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: how is it done ? |
| 22:14.20 | TheMasterMind1 | i forget :) |
| 22:14.24 | TheMasterMind1 | that's the problem |
| 22:14.24 | pnis | :)) |
| 22:14.25 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 22:14.39 | billytwowilly | jmhodges: No, prob, hey, while we're chatting, how you doing? |
| 22:14.42 | walnut | Hey, y'all, does OZ sync with Evolution yet? |
| 22:14.47 | pnis | nobody sees the segfault anyway :) |
| 22:14.57 | pnis | except from commandline perhaps |
| 22:15.04 | jmhodges | billytwowilly: decent :-D |
| 22:15.12 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis: i think we just remove the linking with libSDLmain and the -D_main=SDL_Main |
| 22:15.18 | TheMasterMind1 | i'll play with it |
| 22:15.30 | pnis | ok, good luck |
| 22:15.30 | billytwowilly | jmhodges: That's good;) I'm doing pretty well myself. I wrote my last final yesterday, so I'm done school for the year;) |
| 22:15.34 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: wkae up |
| 22:15.42 | Onyx4 | hey |
| 22:15.43 | jmhodges | nice dude |
| 22:15.43 | pnis | if you remove -Dmain=bla |
| 22:15.43 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: why does my sdl-config file say: prefix=/home/clambert/oz/buildroot/output/staging |
| 22:15.47 | Onyx4 | sorry was away |
| 22:15.48 | jmhodges | mine are next week |
| 22:15.55 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: doh!! |
| 22:16.04 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: replace that with $(STAGING_DIR) |
| 22:16.12 | Onyx4 | hehe |
| 22:16.13 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: whatever, if you can get it to work it will be cool |
| 22:16.20 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: eh? in sdl-config ? |
| 22:16.23 | Onyx4 | yeah |
| 22:16.24 | billytwowilly | jmhodges: Finals next week? doh.. I'll be in the dominican republic while you're writing;) |
| 22:16.25 | Onyx4 | it's a patch now |
| 22:16.31 | Onyx4 | since we hack around the prefix |
| 22:16.42 | jmhodges | lol i hate you |
| 22:16.48 | Onyx4 | oh I can do it |
| 22:16.49 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: which file am i editing..? |
| 22:16.52 | TheMasterMind1 | yea, you do it |
| 22:16.53 | Onyx4 | ok |
| 22:16.56 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: and did you get the message about op2? |
| 22:17.01 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: http://pd9ee1bd8.dip.t-dialin.net:8001/opie-mediaplayer-codecs_0.5_arm.ipk http://pd9ee1bd8.dip.t-dialin.net:8001/opie-mediaplayer2_0.9.1-20021211_arm.ipk <-- put those two in bk and make a simple thing that copies into output/ipks :) |
| 22:17.04 | TheMasterMind1 | that's today's op2 build |
| 22:17.08 | billytwowilly | jmhodges: The beer down there is called el presidente;) I'll drink one for you;) |
| 22:17.08 | TheMasterMind1 | for OZ |
| 22:17.29 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: yes I was thinking of doing that, I would just need to edit their codec ipk and strip out libogg and libvorbis |
| 22:17.30 | pnis | op2 compiles in buildroot ? and works? |
| 22:17.38 | jmhodges | lol billytwowilly thanks ;) |
| 22:17.42 | jmhodges | i think im set here |
| 22:17.44 | Onyx4 | I already have those two ipk, that's the one I use |
| 22:17.51 | Onyx4 | so I think I'll do that instead for now ok? |
| 22:18.00 | billytwowilly | jmhodges: No prob;) I was gonna be drinking it anyway right;) well, I'm off. ciao. |
| 22:18.04 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: op2 will work on a 5000D? |
| 22:18.15 | TheMasterMind1 | chouimat: it should. |
| 22:18.33 | jmhodges | billytwowilly: lol |
| 22:18.39 | jmhodges | billytwowilly: later |
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| 22:19.53 | AndyQ | hi there |
| 22:19.57 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: sup |
| 22:20.08 | AndyQ | 3.1rc1 released yet? |
| 22:20.31 | TheMasterMind1 | nope not yet, we're waiting on proxy support for aqpkg :) |
| 22:20.34 | TheMasterMind1 | heheh, not really |
| 22:20.36 | AndyQ | lol |
| 22:20.51 | AndyQ | you'll be waiting a little - although I may look into it |
| 22:21.21 | lsmith | hrhr |
| 22:21.22 | AndyQ | what state is the buildroot in at the moment? stable enough for me to grab a clean copy? |
| 22:21.56 | victorvdl | AndyQ: new icon sometime soon, if you want it. I just realized I took the top off of Tux's head. |
| 22:22.13 | AndyQ | victorvdl: heh - yup - send it along |
| 22:22.20 | AndyQ | I hadn't noticed it btw :) |
| 22:22.34 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: the caveat is that we will need to export also QPEDIR and QTDIR to applications that must compile with SDLqte |
| 22:22.41 | victorvdl | Perfectionist here. :-D |
| 22:22.54 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: since now they are the variables in the sdl-config |
| 22:23.08 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 22:23.22 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: not hard |
| 22:23.23 | Onyx4 | I'll check the basic apps we compile with SDL to make sure they compile |
| 22:23.28 | Onyx4 | yeah I'll do it |
| 22:24.29 | lsmith | the sl5600 can do vga output? |
| 22:24.40 | lsmith | or is that the c700? |
| 22:25.30 | pnis | AndyQ: worked for me mostly - right now 100% |
| 22:25.48 | AndyQ | pnis: what did? |
| 22:26.34 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: the buildroot |
| 22:26.38 | TheMasterMind1 | its pretty good right now |
| 22:26.42 | AndyQ | ahhhhhhhh |
| 22:26.49 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: OK, I'll grab it |
| 22:26.52 | AndyQ | ibot: buildroot |
| 22:26.54 | | from memory, buildroot is a cool system for building embedded root file systems and can be found at http://uclibc.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/buildroot/ or a heavily modified version used by the OpenZaurus project |
| 22:27.03 | AndyQ | ibot oz bk |
| 22:27.06 | | it has been said that oz bk is bk clone http://openzaurus.bkbits.net/buildroot buildroot-oz; cd buildroot-oz; bk -r co -q; cp def-configs/openzaurus .config; make oldconfig; make or see bitkeeper (free download but non-gpl) or see 'oz snapshot' if you don't want to use bk |
| 22:27.17 | AndyQ | I knew it was one of the two :) |
| 22:28.29 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: from memory, do you remember if oipkg had proxy support? |
| 22:29.05 | TheMasterMind1 | dont' remember |
| 22:29.44 | AndyQ | nope it didn't - damn wanted to rip the proxy dialog if it had one :) |
| 22:29.51 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 22:33.16 | pnis | ibot oz snapshot |
| 22:33.18 | | well, oz snapshot is http://openzaurus.sourceforge.net/snapshot/ or updated every 4 hours by Navi or this is a snapshot of the bk oz buildroot tree use it to compile your own OZ if you don't want to use BK |
| 22:35.03 | pnis | AndyQ by the way am I blind or local packages are ony found if they ar in ~/Documents ? in aqpks I mean |
| 22:35.42 | AndyQ | pnis: nope - thats correct - unfortunatly thats a behaviour of the Qtopia API i use to find ipks |
| 22:36.03 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: almost done... |
| 22:36.05 | AndyQ | pnis: either that or you'd have to wait a long time while aqpkg scanned your entire filesystem which wouldn't be good |
| 22:36.14 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: testing mplayer with the fix see if it builds |
| 22:36.25 | pnis | andyq i see, never mind. I symlinked /mnt/cf to ~/Docu and it works - I even see my packages twice :) |
| 22:36.26 | AndyQ | Onyx4: curious - what fix? |
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| 22:36.34 | AndyQ | lol |
| 22:36.37 | Onyx4 | sdlconfig had harcoded path for my home directory hehe |
| 22:36.38 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: oops. just pushed a change to mplayer so it finds sdl-config |
| 22:36.46 | TheMasterMind1 | its looking in wrong usr/bin/ |
| 22:36.49 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 22:36.55 | TheMasterMind1 | actually, not pushed yet |
| 22:36.55 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: I already fixed that before I think |
| 22:36.56 | TheMasterMind1 | the rep is locked |
| 22:36.56 | AndyQ | damn - was hoping if was the fix for the keyboard |
| 22:37.35 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: that still doesn't work? |
| 22:37.40 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: sounds good my changeset will be broken :) |
| 22:37.52 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: no you're right, the sdl-config has wrong path |
| 22:37.52 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: well, it didn't in the last unstable update - haven't updated today yet |
| 22:38.00 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: ask pnis about it? he's the xmms-e/mplayer guy |
| 22:38.00 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: ok push your change, mine won't conflict with yours |
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| 22:38.24 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: actually, its working now |
| 22:38.24 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: any chance you could paste the default ipkg.conf here so I can see the proxy format? |
| 22:38.26 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: just tested |
| 22:38.45 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: cool - and is the mplayer screen position bug fixed also? |
| 22:38.47 | TheMasterMind1 | # Proxy support: |
| 22:38.47 | TheMasterMind1 | # |
| 22:38.47 | TheMasterMind1 | #option http_proxy http://proxy.tld:3128 |
| 22:38.47 | TheMasterMind1 | #option ftp_proxy http://proxy.tld:3128 |
| 22:38.47 | TheMasterMind1 | #option proxy_username <username> |
| 22:38.48 | TheMasterMind1 | #option proxy_password <password> |
| 22:38.52 | pnis | right now I am using this fine aqpkg :) |
| 22:38.52 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: screen pos? |
| 22:38.57 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: thx |
| 22:39.08 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis: ok, tell me this.. how come by default movies play sideways? |
| 22:39.20 | TheMasterMind1 | and if you enable fullscreen they play nonsideways but with the -fs option |
| 22:39.27 | TheMasterMind1 | i want to play them nonsideways without -fs |
| 22:39.27 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: Yeah, I played a movie full screen and it appeared off centre by about 100 pixels |
| 22:39.32 | Onyx4 | touch: creating `/home/clambert/oz/buildroot/build/ipktemp/mplayer_20021211-6b/CONTROL/control': No such file or directory |
| 22:39.32 | Onyx4 | make[1]: *** [/home/clambert/oz/buildroot/build/ipktemp/mplayer_20021211-6b/CONTROL/control] Error 1 |
| 22:39.34 | Onyx4 | what's that? |
| 22:39.39 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: rotate filter twice |
| 22:39.40 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: never seen that one before..hmm |
| 22:39.41 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: this if from within xmms-e btw |
| 22:39.48 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: makes it slow - 40% cpu :) |
| 22:40.02 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: in full screen no processing is done - so it's fast supposedly |
| 22:40.03 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis: huh? why not play it without any rotate filter at all |
| 22:40.06 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: can you push your change? |
| 22:40.28 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: ah, you meen non fs shouldn't be sideways either? |
| 22:40.33 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis: exactly |
| 22:40.54 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis: mplayer has a problem with -fs and movies that fit the screen exactly, it doesn't let you play it |
| 22:41.04 | TheMasterMind1 | i don't think xmms should rotate at all |
| 22:41.22 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: it's slow anyway because of scaling in non fs. It's the same for me, I don't know which is best for everybody |
| 22:41.42 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: ping |
| 22:41.47 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: segfaults, but only when picture is biger than screen - is that what you mean? |
| 22:41.49 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: fixing cardmon to not even fucking call sdcontrol |
| 22:41.51 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i say fuck it |
| 22:41.58 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: its unmounting directly same as familiar now |
| 22:42.11 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: OK, a possible bug report - everytime that Qtopiadesktop access my Zaurus it tells me that an unauthorised app is accessing it and I have to press Allow - this is after a suspend - leave off for a few hours then resume |
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| 22:42.16 | noda | Moo! |
| 22:42.23 | AndyQ | lo noda |
| 22:42.26 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis: no, if i'm using mplayer from commandline and the picture size is 320x240 and i use -fs, it won't play, without fs it will and will fit the screen exactly |
| 22:42.42 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: hmm, never heard of that one.. any idea what causes it? |
| 22:42.53 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: lol |
| 22:42.57 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: great |
| 22:42.59 | AndyQ | nope - not a clue - possible a wireless bug? |
| 22:43.00 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: sounds good, I have afull screen ogm and it works. can you send me such a movie? |
| 22:43.07 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: put it up somewhere? |
| 22:43.10 | Onyx4 | AndyQ: what keyboard fix you are talking about? |
| 22:43.18 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 22:43.20 | kergoth | Onyx4: keyboard and multikey arent listed in inputmethods |
| 22:43.40 | Onyx4 | ok tought you were talking about the flaky keyboard input from the keypads |
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| 22:43.51 | AndyQ | Onyx4: pressing some keys paused the movie, made it forward/rewind, etc. That stopped working a wile ago |
| 22:43.59 | noda | kergoth: I've done a bk pull && make SUBDIRS=packages/kernel mrproper && make and yet my kernel still prints debugging messages on top of the framebuffer. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong, can you think of what it is? :) |
| 22:44.13 | pnis | AndyQ: in mplayer? |
| 22:44.16 | Onyx4 | AndyQ: it worked on the mplayer I built today, but maybe it was because it wasn't building it with libsdl QTE... |
| 22:44.18 | noda | build/linux/.config has the line "CONFIG_CMDLINE="root=/dev/mtdblock4 mem=40M console=tty1 console=null"" |
| 22:44.20 | AndyQ | pnis: yup |
| 22:44.24 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: its been fixed |
| 22:44.27 | Onyx4 | AndyQ: I think when we created a qte app, we lost that feature |
| 22:44.28 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis: its been fixed |
| 22:44.32 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis: www.themastermind1.net/botball.avi |
| 22:44.41 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: im just about to test it :) |
| 22:44.48 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: use my feed :) |
| 22:44.52 | AndyQ | I am :) |
| 22:44.56 | lsmith | you guys are working like mad today! |
| 22:45.04 | TheMasterMind1 | noda: make menuconfig and disable debug kernels |
| 22:45.12 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: thanks I am grabbing it |
| 22:45.29 | noda | TheMasterMind1: Already disabled |
| 22:45.30 | lsmith | oh TheMasterMind1: remember that awesome screenshot you pasted a link to in here a while back |
| 22:45.41 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: keys work in mplayer? cool! |
| 22:45.43 | TheMasterMind1 | lsmith: what sshot? |
| 22:45.50 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis: yep. |
| 22:45.51 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: ok bk pull, and remake your libsdl-* packages |
| 22:46.04 | lsmith | you said it was a friends zaurus and that he would release an ipk at some point ... |
| 22:46.07 | pnis | I don't think keys work in xmms though |
| 22:46.39 | TheMasterMind1 | lsmith: oh, the cool icons. that was daWorm and we've been denied permission to release an ipk with those icons :( the sshots are on oz.org |
| 22:46.43 | lsmith | any word on that? |
| 22:46.47 | pnis | has anybody tried op2 here ? Is it cool? |
| 22:46.56 | numatrix | TheMasterMind1: denied by whom? |
| 22:47.03 | Onyx4 | I will put op2 into bk for OZ 3.1 release |
| 22:47.10 | TheMasterMind1 | numatrix: the crystal icons people |
| 22:47.15 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: great |
| 22:47.15 | numatrix | TheMasterMind1: bummer. |
| 22:47.15 | noda | Onyx4: Woo! :) |
| 22:47.26 | Twiun[dinner] | TheMasterMind1: Did they thank us for asking first? |
| 22:47.32 | TheMasterMind1 | noda: yep, its op2 beta2 built today |
| 22:47.38 | TheMasterMind1 | Twiun: no clue |
| 22:47.38 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 22:47.42 | pnis | Onyx4: great |
| 22:47.43 | TheMasterMind1 | talk to DaWorm about it |
| 22:48.08 | noda | Ooh! Where can I get it? :) |
| 22:48.10 | Twiun | nah, not really that bothered |
| 22:48.12 | pnis | we have to see what xine is upto on the embedded platform:) |
| 22:48.24 | noda | Could somebody please put that into htdocs/unofficial to replace the old ones there? :) |
| 22:48.57 | TheMasterMind1 | noda: http://pd9ee1bd8.dip.t-dialin.net:8001/opie-mediaplayer-codecs_0.5_arm.ipk http://pd9ee1bd8.dip.t-dialin.net:8001/opie-mediaplayer2_0.9.1-20021211_arm.ipk |
| 22:48.59 | noda | Does anybody know what CONFIG_CMDLINE should be in build/linux/.config? :) |
| 22:49.10 | TheMasterMind1 | noda: it shouldnt' have a console= |
| 22:49.33 | noda | TheMasterMind1: Erm. I don't think harlekin appreciates your broadcasting that link, he's on a slow connection. |
| 22:49.43 | TheMasterMind1 | noda: eh? oops |
| 22:49.44 | TheMasterMind1 | didn't know |
| 22:49.48 | noda | Please nobody use that link. |
| 22:49.50 | pnis | that's cool, I will try op2 than! thanks |
| 22:49.57 | noda | pnis: Wait. Don't use that link. |
| 22:50.07 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: grab ipks from that link and put em in bk |
| 22:50.11 | kergoth | noda: console=null for nondebug, console=tty0 for debug |
| 22:50.15 | Onyx4 | yeah |
| 22:50.20 | noda | pnis: No, I'll put those ipks on sourceforge right now. |
| 22:50.21 | TheMasterMind1 | wait for op2 in the feeds |
| 22:50.28 | noda | My way's faster :P |
| 22:50.38 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: Nope - keyboard not fixed in xmms |
| 22:50.39 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm, stuff just changed |
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| 22:50.48 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: dunno about xmms, but works in mplayer from commandline |
| 22:50.50 | TheMasterMind1 | whoa, shit |
| 22:50.58 | TheMasterMind1 | opie cvs just got a load of pushes |
| 22:51.00 | pnis | noda: okay , where ? the oz site? |
| 22:51.01 | vandal | narf |
| 22:51.12 | TheMasterMind1 | oh wait, nm |
| 22:51.14 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm in the wrong dir |
| 22:51.16 | noda | pnis: it'll be at http://openzaurus.org/unofficial/. But wait, the old ones are there now. |
| 22:51.42 | pnis | noda: ok |
| 22:51.53 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: yup - your right it does |
| 22:52.17 | AndyQ | pnis: just to let you know, using th emplayer plugin for xmms you cant pause the movie or rewind/fastforward |
| 22:52.27 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: so cardmon will just say fuckoff if the umount doesn' twork? |
| 22:52.57 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: yep |
| 22:53.03 | noda | TheMasterMind1: Are you sure opie-mediaplayer-codecs_0.5 is newer than 0.5.5? |
| 22:53.14 | TheMasterMind1 | noda: nope, 5.5 is prolly newer |
| 22:53.20 | TheMasterMind1 | i screwed up :) |
| 22:53.22 | noda | Heh :) |
| 22:53.26 | TheMasterMind1 | thanks for catching that |
| 22:53.27 | noda | Good thing I noticed :) |
| 22:53.40 | noda | Poor Harlekin, we're slowing his connection down :) |
| 22:53.54 | Dilb | he will survive |
| 22:54.11 | noda | Well please just wait for the links to show up on sourceforge. It'll only take a second. |
| 22:54.21 | noda | kergoth: Thanks for the console= thing btw :) |
| 22:54.23 | pnis | AndyQ: I know :) actually forwarding works, only not very well hehe |
| 22:54.35 | kergoth | noda: np, th ebuildroot screwed up the CMDLINE? it seemed to be working here |
| 22:54.40 | AndyQ | pnis: the keyboard doesn't seem do do anything |
| 22:54.46 | noda | kergoth: It's probably because *I* screwed it up :) |
| 22:55.05 | kergoth | noda: dunno, i'll test out my debug kernels. my nondebug most definately dont dump kernel messages though, verified |
| 22:55.14 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: did you push cardmon into cvs or just bk patch or still testing? |
| 22:55.17 | noda | wtf... WTF... I transferred opie-mediaplayer2 a lot faster than is possible... |
| 22:55.23 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: testing first, if nothing b0rked i'll commit to cvs |
| 22:55.24 | pnis | AndyQ: be patient - but it sucks very much, unusable . but it proves that it was not forgotten |
| 22:55.37 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: test my backup patch too :) |
| 22:55.37 | pnis | AndyQ: i mean keep it pressed for a long long time |
| 22:55.39 | noda | kergoth: Okay, it's probably from what I tried to do yesterday :) |
| 22:55.46 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: k |
| 22:55.55 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: just made /etc off by default, or removed it? |
| 22:56.00 | TheMasterMind1 | removed |
| 22:56.07 | AndyQ | pnis: heh OK, and a little feature request - when switching from fullscreen to non-fullscreen, any chance if it not starting the movie from scratch? |
| 22:56.19 | TheMasterMind1 | ben's going to revamp that part anyway, no use leaving it in |
| 22:56.42 | pnis | AndyQ: yes someday it will be there I hope :) |
| 22:56.55 | noda | How the hell is my connection going so fast! I thought I had 15k/sec up! |
| 22:56.57 | AndyQ | pnis: wooohoo! |
| 22:57.22 | pnis | AndyQ: ok, I don't quite know when |
| 22:57.27 | AndyQ | heh |
| 22:57.32 | AndyQ | I can wait :) |
| 22:57.42 | pnis | :) |
| 22:57.44 | AndyQ | I'm just pleased that ogg encoding works! |
| 22:57.45 | noda | Extra extra! Newest opie-player 2 codecs and ipk at http://openzaurus.org/unofficial. Install both and kazam! |
| 22:57.59 | pnis | mplayer ogg devoding? |
| 22:58.05 | AndyQ | yup |
| 22:58.07 | noda | Download from openzaurus.org and not from harlekin, because he'll get mad otherwise :) |
| 22:58.26 | AndyQ | from within xmms so I don't have to restart opie when finished watching :) |
| 22:59.21 | AndyQ | kergoth: any reason why xmms-e needs tinyx? |
| 22:59.26 | kergoth | AndyQ: no reason, it shoouldnt. |
| 22:59.43 | pnis | AndyQ: I know why tinyx |
| 22:59.44 | TheMasterMind1 | it needs it to compile :) |
| 22:59.45 | AndyQ | kergoth: k - its not an issue as long as tinyx builds OK :) |
| 22:59.49 | pnis | :) |
| 22:59.51 | TheMasterMind1 | tinyx builds fine |
| 23:00.17 | TheMasterMind1 | someone have a cf/sd that they are willing to reformat? |
| 23:00.17 | pnis | xmms needs gtk header files too :] |
| 23:01.58 | noda | TheMasterMind1: Depends - what do you need? :) |
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| 23:02.46 | kergoth | noda: test opie-formatter |
| 23:03.15 | Coup | evenin |
| 23:03.16 | Coup | :) |
| 23:03.16 | noda | Oh - sure, I'll do that. First I gotta get this non-debug kernel compiled though :) |
| 23:03.32 | kergoth | noda: fyi, the boot is still verbose |
| 23:03.38 | kergoth | noda: assloads of boot messages, but not kernel ones :) |
| 23:03.43 | noda | kergoth: Okay, that's good :) |
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| 23:04.06 | noda | Hey, I guess it's about time I coded multiple versions into the download scripts, eh! |
| 23:04.27 | TheMasterMind1 | yea.. |
| 23:04.27 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 23:04.29 | kergoth | well, considering we're about to release 3.1 release candidate one, yes |
| 23:04.31 | kergoth | :) |
| 23:04.32 | noda | Dammit... so much coding to do :) |
| 23:04.42 | noda | Is 3.1rc1 going to be a separate release from 3.1? |
| 23:04.44 | pnis | ok - botball.avi doesn't work because it's 352 pixels wide and 288 pixels tall |
| 23:04.46 | kergoth | noda: also, all the unstable changes are about to transition to testing with the rc1 release |
| 23:04.47 | TheMasterMind1 | noda: yes |
| 23:04.53 | kergoth | noda: rc1 is the first release candidate in our testing cycle |
| 23:04.57 | pnis | 320x240 would work |
| 23:04.57 | TheMasterMind1 | are the unstable changes updated? |
| 23:05.05 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: good question, you want to take a look for me? |
| 23:05.12 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis: hmm, oops. |
| 23:05.28 | noda | Oh, btw, harlekin wants me to expressly point out that those opie-mediaplayer things are pre-beta 2 :) |
| 23:05.40 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: the changeset I tested know (and found it working) is at web.mit.edu/ |
| 23:05.44 | noda | But... wait... release in another branch... |
| 23:05.46 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: oz.patch3 |
| 23:05.51 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: iirc |
| 23:05.51 | noda | Nobody ever told me releases weren't all in 'stable'! |
| 23:06.24 | TheMasterMind1 | hahaha |
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| 23:06.29 | kergoth | noda: well, they shouldnt have been |
| 23:06.30 | TheMasterMind1 | Harlekin: sup |
| 23:06.31 | Harlekin | hi * |
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| 23:06.33 | kergoth | noda: but this is a special case |
| 23:06.41 | Harlekin | TheMasterMind1: just got notice i should come here |
| 23:06.44 | kergoth | noda: the 'testing' release .. beta |
| 23:06.45 | TheMasterMind1 | Harlekin: :) |
| 23:06.49 | noda | Well, I dunno... rc's happen all the time... |
| 23:06.52 | kergoth | noda: which probably deviates from debian standards |
| 23:06.55 | kergoth | noda: in debian? |
| 23:06.57 | kergoth | noda: :) |
| 23:06.58 | ljp_work | hmm |
| 23:07.10 | Harlekin | Onyx4: about op2, please dont build yourself yet |
| 23:07.15 | Onyx4 | no |
| 23:07.20 | Harlekin | Onyx4: i dont want to get reports about poor performance |
| 23:07.20 | noda | kergoth: I'm not talkin' debian, I'm talking oz :) |
| 23:07.25 | Harlekin | Onyx4: just repackage |
| 23:07.27 | kergoth | noda: i know :) |
| 23:07.27 | Onyx4 | I just took your ipk and stripped off libogg and libvorbisidec |
| 23:07.38 | Onyx4 | yeah I'll put that in bk directly |
| 23:07.38 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: hehe the url is http://web.mit.edu/rudas/oz3.patch3 |
| 23:07.39 | kergoth | noda: we follow their policies for the most part, but here we need to deviate |
| 23:07.41 | Harlekin | Onyx4: good |
| 23:07.46 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis: this is a new changeset? |
| 23:07.48 | kergoth | noda: because we need a solid, versioned, package for beta |
| 23:07.49 | Harlekin | Onyx4: codecs should be repackaged anyway |
| 23:07.53 | noda | kergoth: So in OZ, will the 'testing' branch be composed of "releases" of the unstable branch? |
| 23:07.55 | Harlekin | Onyx4: since its old ipk style |
| 23:07.58 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: yes the newest, the best |
| 23:08.02 | Onyx4 | indeed |
| 23:08.03 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis: 404 |
| 23:08.05 | kergoth | noda: hmm |
| 23:08.16 | Harlekin | Onyx4: i try to get to a beta2 on sunday |
| 23:08.25 | kergoth | noda: I dont think so, not exclusively anyway |
| 23:08.26 | Harlekin | Onyx4: but especially video section needs work until then |
| 23:08.33 | kergoth | noda: individual packages will still transition into testing individually |
| 23:08.33 | Onyx4 | ok, all we need split at this point is the libogg and libvorbisidec, the rest can stay |
| 23:08.42 | kergoth | noda: just happens to be that this time i'm doing them all at once |
| 23:08.50 | noda | Not exclusively... well, that's good - after all, stable isn't composed exclusively of changes to testing. |
| 23:08.53 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: hehe I didn't get the url right for the 2nd time |
| 23:08.59 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: http://web.interware.hu/rudas/oz3.patch3 |
| 23:09.02 | ljp_work | I could install op2 _if_ sd wouldnt crash when I try |
| 23:09.05 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: that's the one |
| 23:09.11 | kergoth | my sd still works great |
| 23:09.20 | kergoth | strangely enough |
| 23:09.21 | pnis | Harlekin: hi |
| 23:09.21 | ljp_work | blah blah blah |
| 23:09.23 | noda | kergoth: Okay. Now here's a completely general question: when packages are put into the 'testing' branch that means they'll be in the 'testing' FEED, right? |
| 23:09.28 | Harlekin | pnis: ni |
| 23:09.29 | kergoth | noda: yes |
| 23:09.34 | pnis | Harlekin: might I ask how much mem is op2 consuming? |
| 23:09.35 | kergoth | noda: though right now thats a *manual* process |
| 23:09.43 | Harlekin | pnis: way to much currently |
| 23:09.44 | noda | So we'll have 'testing' *releases*, such as this 3.1rc1, and then if any other changes are made they'll be in the feed. |
| 23:09.48 | ljp_work | well, release another init.bin and I'll stop complaining |
| 23:09.49 | Harlekin | pnis: 16 mb |
| 23:09.50 | kergoth | noda: right |
| 23:09.57 | noda | kergoth: Okay, yeah, I realize it's manual |
| 23:09.58 | ljp_work | unless its still hangs |
| 23:10.00 | Harlekin | pnis: but that will be final task |
| 23:10.03 | TheMasterMind1 | ok, i need more stuff to add to changelog! |
| 23:10.05 | pnis | Harlekin: that's much better than what it was (24?) |
| 23:10.05 | TheMasterMind1 | gimme stuff |
| 23:10.09 | Harlekin | pnis: since its not an issue on ipaq |
| 23:10.19 | pnis | Harlekin: I see |
| 23:10.19 | Harlekin | pnis: shared etc is still 30 |
| 23:10.24 | noda | kergoth: Please tell me there will never be 'unstable' releases? :) |
| 23:10.27 | kergoth | noda: figured out how to work this into the changelog yet? |
| 23:10.27 | Harlekin | and its only an issue on Z |
| 23:10.29 | kergoth | noda: lol, hell no |
| 23:10.34 | noda | kergoth: Great - yes then :P |
| 23:10.35 | kergoth | noda: there's only the rc/beta, and the final |
| 23:10.46 | pnis | Harlekin: yes yes. but we have xmms+mplayer there :) |
| 23:10.46 | noda | I'll just make it abstract, instead of using '2' everywhere. |
| 23:10.55 | Harlekin | pnis: i dont care |
| 23:11.00 | Harlekin | about hacks .-) |
| 23:11.09 | pnis | hehe |
| 23:11.10 | noda | I'll have to work around the other stuff - the changelog query I'll have to hack quickly to get something reasonable before the actual release, then rewrite it when I do the filtering stuff :) |
| 23:11.10 | Harlekin | pnis: never said i wanted to be first |
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| 23:11.17 | ljp_work | you should have a web interface to making a customized init.bin |
| 23:11.19 | Harlekin | pnis: quality counts |
| 23:11.19 | Coup | hello? |
| 23:11.33 | Coup | yeay, seems to be working |
| 23:11.43 | pnis | Harlekin: hm. |
| 23:11.44 | Coup | useless wireless card in laptop |
| 23:11.49 | Harlekin | pnis: once you see a 1.0, it should be done |
| 23:12.08 | TheMasterMind1 | argh, SOMEONE TEST OPIE-FORMATTER |
| 23:12.09 | pnis | Harlekin: all right, I hope I didn't offend you :) I didn't mean to |
| 23:12.18 | kergoth | noda: right, hack something. you know, we dont necessarily need the ability to query 3.1rc1 directly |
| 23:12.23 | Harlekin | pnis: oder solution would be to give the Z a non broken kernel .-) |
| 23:12.24 | kergoth | noda: could let them just query testing for now |
| 23:12.24 | ljp_work | formattwer should work |
| 23:12.27 | Harlekin | pnis: no worry |
| 23:12.28 | kergoth | noda: its not critical atm |
| 23:12.31 | Harlekin | pnis: i am not picky |
| 23:12.38 | pnis | Harlekin: but what do you mean by quality ? regarding xmms+mplayer ? |
| 23:12.42 | noda | kergoth: Okay. |
| 23:12.47 | Harlekin | pnis: its not really integrated |
| 23:12.52 | Harlekin | pnis: and not as fast in video |
| 23:12.53 | noda | kergoth: When is this "due"? :) |
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| 23:13.01 | pnis | Harlekin: that's why it's not eating 20 megs |
| 23:13.03 | Harlekin | pnis: and needs more cpu cycles for ogg |
| 23:13.14 | kergoth | noda: the changelog testing release stuff? or the ability to add 3.1rc1 to downloads? |
| 23:13.14 | Harlekin | pnis: the megs all come from xine |
| 23:13.19 | kergoth | noda: the latter, soon. the former, whenever. |
| 23:13.20 | pnis | Harlekin: .ogg audio? it uses tremor too |
| 23:13.30 | noda | kergoth: Well, it's kind of a whole package :) |
| 23:13.33 | Harlekin | pnis: and its only half from original xine |
| 23:13.38 | Harlekin | pnis: our ogg is even more |
| 23:13.43 | Harlekin | ask Dilb |
| 23:13.43 | Harlekin | .-) |
| 23:13.45 | ljp_work | ogg schmogg |
| 23:13.48 | kergoth | noda: dont bother me with details! |
| 23:13.49 | kergoth | noda: hehe |
| 23:13.49 | pnis | Harlekin: what did you do to it ? |
| 23:13.50 | noda | Bah, it'll be simple DB-wise: Just put a oz_branch_id into the release :) |
| 23:13.50 | kergoth | noda: ;) |
| 23:13.51 | noda | Heh :) |
| 23:14.06 | ljp_work | ogg fogg |
| 23:14.20 | Dilb | hardwire: well, I must compare current tremor with my tremor, to be sure :) |
| 23:14.22 | *** part/#openzaurus linfelw (~linfel@pool-151-197-16-90.phil.east.verizon.net) |
| 23:14.24 | noda | kergoth: Define "soon" - should I do it tonight or study for my worth-100%-of-the-term-math-exam tonight? :) |
| 23:14.25 | Harlekin | pnis: asm |
| 23:14.26 | Dilb | argh |
| 23:14.32 | Dilb | s/hardwire/harlekin/ |
| 23:14.44 | kergoth | noda: all we need asap is the ability to add an intird.bin and kernels for 3.1rc1 to the downloads page |
| 23:14.44 | ljp_work | isnt the vorbis for op2 have arm asm? |
| 23:14.45 | pnis | Harlekin: nice |
| 23:14.45 | Harlekin | Dilb: i am very confident that yours is better |
| 23:14.50 | kergoth | noda: and we definately need that asap |
| 23:14.54 | kergoth | noda: if its a hack, so be it |
| 23:14.58 | noda | Okay, fuck the exam :) |
| 23:15.02 | kergoth | haha |
| 23:15.15 | Dilb | ljp_work: yes and no, default tremor has inline asm for some parts |
| 23:15.21 | kergoth | noda: just hack something in quick and get studying ;) |
| 23:15.23 | noda | Well it's only Linear Algebra. I'm just studying so I can give myself something to do. |
| 23:15.24 | pnis | Harlekin: I will use that tremor too than :) it's open source, no ? |
| 23:15.26 | Dessimat0r | I never revise anyway ;) |
| 23:15.34 | Harlekin | pnis: it will be in OZ i guess |
| 23:15.37 | noda | The only thing I really can't remember off-hand is Cramer's Rule, because it's so STUPID and USELESS :P |
| 23:15.42 | Harlekin | since onyx4 wanted to repackage it |
| 23:15.49 | Dessimat0r | Its only people that can't store knowledge that need revise it ;) |
| 23:15.58 | Onyx4 | yeah give me 5 more mins |
| 23:16.01 | Onyx4 | it will be in OZ |
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| 23:16.27 | Dessimat0r | except if you have all crappy formulas |
| 23:16.32 | Dessimat0r | those require AGES to learn |
| 23:16.37 | Dessimat0r | ;) |
| 23:16.41 | pnis | Harlekin: what do you mean op2 is half xine? what is the main difference? |
| 23:16.54 | Harlekin | tronical: half the mem |
| 23:16.59 | Harlekin | real xine takes 40 megs |
| 23:17.03 | Harlekin | 40-50 |
| 23:17.03 | pnis | :) |
| 23:17.05 | Dessimat0r | Cramer's rule? |
| 23:17.12 | pnis | that's not little in deed |
| 23:17.14 | Dessimat0r | wassat? I did AS Maths |
| 23:17.27 | Dessimat0r | (and failed) |
| 23:17.28 | Dessimat0r | ;) |
| 23:17.32 | pnis | i saw the asm yuv->rgb converter too |
| 23:17.45 | Dilb | pnis: deprecated |
| 23:17.53 | pnis | Dilb: what is better? |
| 23:18.03 | pnis | btw gcc optimizes very well anyway, no? |
| 23:18.15 | Dilb | pnis: whatis better than what ? |
| 23:18.15 | kergoth | pnis: heh |
| 23:18.24 | kergoth | pnis: gcc 2 doesnt optimize well |
| 23:18.39 | Twiun | gcc sometimes optimises things a wee bit too much |
| 23:18.45 | pnis | it removed all multiplications from my inner loop, though |
| 23:18.49 | Twiun | it's a "ymmv" thing |
| 23:18.51 | kergoth | Twiun: especially if you -O3.. shudder |
| 23:19.02 | pnis | dilb what is better than that asm yuv2rgb converter? |
| 23:19.04 | TheMasterMind1 | noda: be sure we track downloads on this too, and don't mix those stats with the 3.0 downloads |
| 23:19.06 | Twiun | kergoth: lol... some makefiles I've seen try -06 |
| 23:19.11 | kergoth | Twiun: egad |
| 23:19.13 | Onyx4 | Harlekin: should I use the 0.5.1 or 0.5 codecs? |
| 23:19.14 | noda | TheMasterMind1: SHIT, knew I was forgetting something :P. Thanks :) |
| 23:19.18 | TheMasterMind1 | noda: :) |
| 23:19.24 | Dilb | pnis: I did changes to merge gamma correction and scaling |
| 23:19.33 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: why not 0.5.5 |
| 23:19.33 | kergoth | Twiun: as far as i'm concerned, i want functions marked as inline inlined, and nothing of its own .. |
| 23:19.36 | kergoth | Twiun: i trust the developer |
| 23:19.36 | Dessimat0r | Twiun: Isn't that optimisation by removing the whole code so that it executes instantly? ;) |
| 23:19.38 | kergoth | Twiun: hehe |
| 23:19.45 | Twiun | rofl |
| 23:19.46 | Onyx4 | where can I get 0.5.5? |
| 23:19.52 | TheMasterMind1 | i thought it was in that dir.. |
| 23:19.53 | pnis | Dilb: scaling is in asm too? that's cool - I will use this too if you don't mind |
| 23:20.06 | Twiun | Dessimat0r: no idea - thankfully that makefile did discriminate - it only does that with 4 files |
| 23:20.13 | Dessimat0r | heh |
| 23:20.16 | noda | Hey I know I know I know I know I know! I'll store the release ID with do_download.php! Whee! :) |
| 23:20.18 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: http://openzaurus.org/unofficial/opie-mediaplayer-codecs_0.5.5_arm.ipk |
| 23:20.25 | noda | Easy and complete! Love thinking something up that's simple and efficient :) |
| 23:20.38 | Dilb | pnis: no only C, at the time I did the changes, the overall performance was good enough in comparison with the old asm converter |
| 23:21.13 | pnis | Dilb: so gcc does optimze quite a bit, doesn't it ? |
| 23:21.14 | Harlekin | Onyx4: 0.5.5 |
| 23:21.15 | Onyx4 | I get forbidden |
| 23:21.21 | Onyx4 | where can I d/l |
| 23:21.39 | noda | Onyx4: Just a sec, that's my fault :P |
| 23:21.47 | Dilb | pnis: the functions are a lot simpler, that's the main point |
| 23:22.02 | pnis | Dilb: i see |
| 23:22.03 | Dilb | pnis: i.e. a lot less memcpy |
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| 23:22.18 | pnis | Dilb: is it in op2 sources? I would take a look than |
| 23:22.20 | noda | Onyx4: Fixed |
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| 23:22.41 | Dilb | pnis: not yet in a public CVS |
| 23:22.54 | noda | If anybody wants to help harlekin test the newest build that he's not sure works yet... just let him know :) |
| 23:23.00 | Dessimat0r | you should optimise as much as possible, until you start seeing bugs arise. |
| 23:23.20 | pnis | Dilb: i see. |
| 23:23.25 | Dessimat0r | however, it is difficult to catch every single bug that DOES arise ;) |
| 23:23.27 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: http://openzaurus.org/unofficial/opie-mediaplayer-codecs_0.5.5_arm.ipk |
| 23:23.33 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: I hope you will find the changeset useable |
| 23:23.40 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis: where is it? |
| 23:23.42 | Onyx4 | is that one with libogg and libvorbis out of the ipk? |
| 23:23.42 | pnis | i have to go now |
| 23:23.45 | pnis | Dilb: nice talking to you |
| 23:23.47 | Coup | kergoth: ping |
| 23:23.49 | Dessimat0r | cu |
| 23:23.51 | pnis | Harlekin: nice talking to you too |
| 23:23.55 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: http://web.interware.hu/rudas/oz3.patch3 |
| 23:23.58 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 23:24.04 | pnis | ok |
| 23:24.06 | Harlekin | pnis: np .-) |
| 23:24.19 | Harlekin | Onyx4: its still all one ipk |
| 23:24.21 | pnis | good night |
| 23:24.33 | Coup | ibot seen kergoth |
| 23:24.48 | | kergoth is currently on #opie #familiar #uclibc #picogui #tuxscreen #zaurus #elinux #handhelds.org #openzaurus. Has said a total of 788 messages. Is idling for 5m 10s |
| 23:24.48 | Coup | ibot? |
| 23:25.06 | *** join/#openzaurus ibz (~Ibz@host217-39-2-191.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 23:25.09 | Coup | thanks slow coach! |
| 23:26.14 | Coup | kergoth: tried ipkg upgrade to unstable, which gives this problem, i know how to solve but youre bound to get people whinging if the same prob comes with 3.1: Installing libapm1 (3.1.0-4c) to root... ERROR: Package libapm1 wants to install file /usr/lib/libapm.so.1.0.0 But that file is already provided by package apmd ERROR: Package libapm1 wants to install file /usr/lib/libapm.so.1.0 But that file is already provided by packa |
| 23:27.44 | TheMasterMind1 | Coup: ipkg install apmd |
| 23:28.34 | Coup | tmm1: same msg |
| 23:29.03 | kergoth | Coup: remove apmd, install libapm1 and apmd |
| 23:29.05 | Coup | need to uninstall first i presume? |
| 23:29.21 | Coup | yeah, what i thought |
| 23:29.28 | TheMasterMind1 | so whats status.. |
| 23:29.32 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: opie compile yet? |
| 23:30.42 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: yep, trying to make carmdon not steal the keyboard focus |
| 23:30.49 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: cause i hate it when i'm typing and that shit interrupts me |
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| 23:30.50 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 23:30.53 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 23:30.55 | Dessimat0r | heh |
| 23:31.13 | ljp_1 | blah |
| 23:32.47 | Coup | weird, lost my opie keyboard! |
| 23:32.53 | kergoth | Coup: yep |
| 23:32.57 | kergoth | Coup: multikey vanishes |
| 23:33.00 | kergoth | Coup: nobody knows why |
| 23:33.02 | noda | kergoth: Dammit, I'm still getting these infernal debug messages :( |
| 23:33.03 | TheMasterMind1 | lol |
| 23:33.06 | Coup | bugger |
| 23:33.14 | Onyx4 | OK op2 is in BK!!! |
| 23:33.18 | kergoth | noda: KERNEL messages? |
| 23:33.18 | noda | Maybe my flash isn't working. It only takes like 15 seconds to flash the kernel, is that good? |
| 23:33.19 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: great! |
| 23:33.20 | Onyx4 | I repakckaged it correctly |
| 23:33.23 | kergoth | noda: you're certain its kernel messages? |
| 23:33.29 | kergoth | noda: i.e. Freeing memory for INIT? |
| 23:33.40 | noda | kergoth: Well... "SA1100 IRDA Initialized" is on there now. |
| 23:33.41 | Onyx4 | it's uploading now, so it may take a bit to be complete for the push |
| 23:33.41 | Harlekin | Onyx4: there is a new version |
| 23:33.42 | Harlekin | .-) |
| 23:33.43 | Onyx4 | brb later |
| 23:33.45 | Harlekin | Onyx4: 1212 |
| 23:33.45 | noda | Yeah, one sec. |
| 23:33.54 | Onyx4 | ahh... |
| 23:33.54 | Harlekin | better skin loader |
| 23:33.57 | Harlekin | now on the fly |
| 23:34.04 | Harlekin | so player only |
| 23:34.10 | Onyx4 | does it fix the crash when you switch from window to fullscreen mode? |
| 23:34.11 | Coup | ipkg install mplayer |
| 23:34.14 | Coup | oops |
| 23:34.49 | TheMasterMind1 | Coup: heh |
| 23:34.54 | noda | Onyx4: There, newer one is up now :) |
| 23:35.05 | ljp_1 | ibot: lart me |
| 23:35.07 | Harlekin | Onyx4: no, video the next days |
| 23:35.18 | Harlekin | Onyx4: current one is specially faster and audio playback |
| 23:35.23 | Harlekin | video the next days |
| 23:35.26 | Coup | ljp: lol |
| 23:35.28 | kergoth | goddamnit |
| 23:35.34 | kergoth | ben screwed up the networksetup icon |
| 23:35.42 | ljp_1 | ?? |
| 23:35.46 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: :\ |
| 23:35.51 | Coup | :) |
| 23:36.05 | ljp_1 | did you notice sysinfo yet? |
| 23:36.06 | kergoth | Harlekin: how to prevent cardmon popup from stealing keyboard focus from active window? |
| 23:36.19 | Harlekin | hmm |
| 23:36.23 | Harlekin | good question |
| 23:36.23 | kergoth | ljp_1: need to antialias that icon |
| 23:36.25 | kergoth | ljp_1: jaggy |
| 23:36.54 | kergoth | Harlekin: tried making sure focus policy was no, then tried obtaining the current FocusWidget and passing that to setFocusProxy.. didnt work either :) |
| 23:36.58 | kergoth | Harlekin: trying shit at random here |
| 23:37.31 | Harlekin | we need to look at the ksilentpopup |
| 23:37.45 | Coup | brb |
| 23:38.08 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: the knights makefile doesn't have , between dependencies |
| 23:38.25 | Harlekin | you integrate knights in oz? |
| 23:38.27 | Harlekin | cool .-) |
| 23:38.30 | Harlekin | what does mark say? |
| 23:38.34 | kergoth | Harlekin: needed ipk for gcc3 |
| 23:38.37 | kergoth | Harlekin: its not in our feeds |
| 23:38.39 | kergoth | Harlekin: :) |
| 23:38.41 | Harlekin | why not |
| 23:38.54 | kergoth | Harlekin: moral reasons, i think what mark is doing is cool |
| 23:38.56 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: wanna add the , ? |
| 23:38.58 | Onyx4 | I need to go |
| 23:39.24 | chouimat | ok recovered 50CD cases |
| 23:39.31 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: k, willdo |
| 23:39.37 | Onyx4 | how about zethereal and znessus in bk? |
| 23:40.00 | TheMasterMind1 | that'd be nice.. |
| 23:40.10 | chouimat | Onyx4: don't know, I working on another nessus clients |
| 23:40.10 | TheMasterMind1 | and kismet-qt too |
| 23:40.19 | Onyx4 | eventually I want all my favorite apps to be in bk :) |
| 23:40.27 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: whats up with XMMS's icon - shows a box with a ? in it? |
| 23:40.29 | Onyx4 | chouimat: ok I'll wait then |
| 23:40.41 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: find me a good icon for it.. |
| 23:40.47 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: :) |
| 23:40.49 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: K will do :) |
| 23:40.58 | TheMasterMind1 | i totally forgot about that |
| 23:41.04 | TheMasterMind1 | i bet there's a nice crystal icon i can use |
| 23:41.05 | TheMasterMind1 | lemme check |
| 23:41.18 | chouimat | Onyx4: it's will probably and commercial one ... or a free basic one and a commercial one with other feature |
| 23:42.18 | TheMasterMind1 | whoa, there's an xmms icon |
| 23:42.19 | TheMasterMind1 | sweet |
| 23:42.23 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: tell you what - you get a nice icon for xmms and I'll add proxy support to aqpkg |
| 23:43.07 | TheMasterMind1 | sounds like a plan |
| 23:43.09 | chouimat | Onyx4: does znessus scan and support ssl yet? |
| 23:43.22 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: if you ever update op2, do a bk edit of the current one, copy over the new ipk, and then check-in and then to bk mv oldname newname, that way it won't store the old versions in bk |
| 23:43.31 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: OK, now you've agreed - AQPkg has proxy support :) |
| 23:43.41 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: or it will do when I've tested and committed |
| 23:43.54 | Onyx4 | otherwise we'll end up with bunch of deleted files that are real long to transfer |
| 23:44.00 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: alright |
| 23:44.21 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: sweet |
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| 23:45.48 | kergoth | Harlekin: hmm, we should patch /etc/pcmcia/ide to use QCop to notify of card insert/eject, instead of polling the stab and wasting cpu cycles |
| 23:45.59 | Harlekin | good idea |
| 23:46.00 | kergoth | Harlekin: just have the ide script check to see if opie's running/installed |
| 23:46.04 | noda | Okay, got multiple release support in download.php kinda. Now I have to make an interface to alternate releases :) |
| 23:46.15 | kergoth | noda: yay |
| 23:46.20 | Harlekin | kergoth: not sure if i get that through for familiar |
| 23:46.36 | noda | Damn, forgot about fixing do_download() too :) |
| 23:46.53 | kergoth | Harlekin: well, if (ps -ef|grep -v grep|grep -q opie); then qcop ...; fi; |
| 23:46.53 | noda | kergoth: overall, this release system is gonna be COOL :) |
| 23:47.02 | kergoth | Harlekin: then it wont break without opie running/installed |
| 23:47.40 | noda | AARGH. I've been a stupid boy :) |
| 23:47.49 | kergoth | Harlekin: might add a slight delay to insert/eject, but it wont be noticable |
| 23:48.00 | kergoth | Harlekin: either that or could if [ -e /var/run/opie.pid ]; then qcop ..; fi; |
| 23:48.03 | Harlekin | kergoth: btw, does OZ remount cards on resume? |
| 23:48.04 | kergoth | Harlekin: actually i like that better |
| 23:48.14 | noda | Now I have to fix what I broke :) |
| 23:48.16 | kergoth | Harlekin: it doesnt unmount them on suspend.. so no |
| 23:48.28 | kergoth | Harlekin: ide appears to survive suspend/resume without unmounting |
| 23:48.36 | Harlekin | yes |
| 23:48.40 | Harlekin | but familiar changes that |
| 23:48.43 | Harlekin | for some reasom |
| 23:48.44 | TheMasterMind1 | argh. |
| 23:48.55 | TheMasterMind1 | goddarnit. why did i wipe opie! |
| 23:48.58 | kergoth | Harlekin: weird. that would interfere with trying to run apps on cf across suspend.. |
| 23:49.14 | Harlekin | kergoth: but what happens if the cf was remove in between |
| 23:49.19 | Harlekin | kergoth: and on ipaq even worse |
| 23:49.26 | Harlekin | kergoth: what if the sleeve was removed .-) |
| 23:49.29 | kergoth | Harlekin: lol |
| 23:49.36 | Harlekin | can happen |
| 23:49.41 | TheMasterMind1 | i tested that |
| 23:49.41 | kergoth | Harlekin: driver has to be smart enough to kill the processes and close the file descriptors and clean up |
| 23:49.44 | TheMasterMind1 | if you remove card and resume |
| 23:49.53 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm, it reports it as removed |
| 23:50.01 | TheMasterMind1 | that was my wifi |
| 23:50.04 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: what about with an app running or a file descriptor open on a ide card? |
| 23:50.05 | TheMasterMind1 | dunno about ide |
| 23:50.07 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: ;) |
| 23:50.10 | TheMasterMind1 | yea.. |
| 23:50.11 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 23:50.15 | TheMasterMind1 | *shrug* |
| 23:50.17 | Harlekin | heeh |
| 23:50.27 | TheMasterMind1 | people hated the previous behavior |
| 23:50.37 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: hows cardmon coming |
| 23:50.42 | Harlekin | but i would vote for keep in while suspended |
| 23:50.53 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: just cleaned a bit, its fine |
| 23:50.53 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: what used to call sdcontrol to mount the card? |
| 23:51.02 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i'd like to stop it polling for pcmcia, but that can wait till later |
| 23:51.07 | Harlekin | dont break my cardmon, no time currently fixing it .) |
| 23:51.09 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: to mount? nothing. sdmgr does it |
| 23:51.12 | kergoth | Harlekin: hehe |
| 23:51.12 | noda | Dammit, what I SHOULD do is make a 'release' object. |
| 23:51.13 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 23:51.15 | TheMasterMind1 | cool |
| 23:51.35 | Harlekin | kergoth: it pools central |
| 23:51.35 | kergoth | Harlekin: i test before commit, no worries |
| 23:51.35 | Harlekin | thats not cardmon itself |
| 23:51.35 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: hwat about backuprestore? |
| 23:51.41 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: didnt apply your patch yet. its in bkbits? |
| 23:51.44 | TheMasterMind1 | yes |
| 23:52.58 | kergoth | ah shit |
| 23:53.02 | TheMasterMind1 | ? |
| 23:53.06 | kergoth | i forgot to add zaurus model check into libopie's ODevice |
| 23:53.13 | TheMasterMind1 | heheh |
| 23:53.14 | kergoth | sysinfo still shows 5000d all the time :) |
| 23:53.18 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 23:53.23 | TheMasterMind1 | i hear ljp added an icon |
| 23:53.24 | TheMasterMind1 | :) |
| 23:53.34 | TheMasterMind1 | yep, he did |
| 23:53.35 | TheMasterMind1 | looks good |
| 23:53.45 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm, its a bit pixelated |
| 23:53.46 | kergoth | quick, anyone here with a 5000d? |
| 23:53.51 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: yes, it needs to be antialiased |
| 23:53.52 | TheMasterMind1 | he should have asked me to send a bigger one |
| 23:53.57 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: or that :) |
| 23:53.59 | TheMasterMind1 | there's multiple sizes |
| 23:54.04 | TheMasterMind1 | what size is it supposed to me? |
| 23:54.04 | TheMasterMind1 | be |
| 23:54.10 | TheMasterMind1 | any idea? |
| 23:54.14 | kergoth | i dunno, it looks like crap now though |
| 23:54.16 | kergoth | check sysinfo code |
| 23:54.21 | kergoth | ljp: ping |
| 23:54.25 | kergoth | somebody with a 5000d.. |
| 23:54.26 | *** join/#openzaurus dep (~chatzilla@h24-77-50-229.gv.shawcable.net) |
| 23:54.59 | Freddie | kergoth, are you around? |
| 23:55.00 | roge99 | yea kergoth |
| 23:55.10 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm, where are the pingus and tux icons |
| 23:55.19 | TheMasterMind1 | not in agupta@hubris:~/zaurus/buildroot/build/opie/pics/sysinfo$ ls |
| 23:55.23 | kergoth | roge99: modprobe devinfo; cat /proc/deviceinfo/product |
| 23:55.30 | TheMasterMind1 | whoa, that was fast |
| 23:55.35 | Freddie | kergoth: If you are still busy, I will try back later |
| 23:55.45 | Freddie | themastermind1: Fast comp? :) |
| 23:55.51 | TheMasterMind1 | but it didn't used to |
| 23:55.55 | TheMasterMind1 | true, this is a dual 933mhz |
| 23:55.57 | TheMasterMind1 | but still.. |
| 23:56.04 | TheMasterMind1 | Freddie: what are you wanting to talk to kergoth about |
| 23:56.14 | Freddie | themastermind1: I need to apologize to him |
| 23:56.19 | TheMasterMind1 | heheh :) |
| 23:56.19 | Freddie | but he is quite busy right now |
| 23:56.33 | Freddie | the sharp developer website has an OLD intellisync |
| 23:56.41 | Freddie | I didn't realize there was a newer one |
| 23:56.58 | Freddie | they bundled a version of intellisync with the latest roms that won't sync |
| 23:56.58 | roge99 | SL-5000D |
| 23:57.19 | *** join/#openzaurus scanline (~micah@aden2-142-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU) |
| 23:57.33 | roge99 | kergoth: if it makes a diff im on the original 3.0 I havent updated much |
| 23:57.37 | TheMasterMind1 | scanline: pg-server won't build |
| 23:57.44 | scanline | heh |
| 23:57.54 | TheMasterMind1 | Freddie: so it does work? |
| 23:57.58 | TheMasterMind1 | shweet |
| 23:58.12 | kergoth | roge99: thanks |
| 23:58.36 | scanline | TheMasterMind1: what sort of problem? |
| 23:58.41 | roge99 | np .... |
| 23:58.43 | TheMasterMind1 | any commandline utils to give the size of a .png file? |
| 23:58.47 | TheMasterMind1 | as in, height/width |
| 23:58.52 | Freddie | yes, once I switched to a different intellisync than the "latest" on their developer site |
| 23:58.53 | mickeyl | TheMasterMind1: file |
| 23:58.57 | TheMasterMind1 | scanline: hm, dont' remember. some MAX thing not definied |
| 23:59.04 | TheMasterMind1 | mickeyl: whoa, sweet |
| 23:59.05 | TheMasterMind1 | thanks |
| 23:59.07 | mickeyl | :) |
| 23:59.11 | Freddie | kergoth: I apologize for saying that OZ wouldn't sync. I am very sorry. |
| 23:59.15 | scanline | TheMasterMind1: oh, NAME_MAX? kergoth told me about that one and I thought I fixed it |
| 23:59.26 | TheMasterMind1 | scanline: still borken, bkpull and try compiling |
| 23:59.28 | Freddie | kergoth: I had tried everything I could think of and the only thing that worked was older code from CVS |
| 23:59.37 | scanline | TheMasterMind1: k |
| 23:59.56 | scanline | TheMasterMind1: probably don't have time to debug it right now, but will look at it soon |
