| 00:03.34 | _ibz | Dessimat0r: hexatrolic run ok on your oz3.1rc1? |
| 00:04.22 | _ibz | it seems to have the screen split...kinda for me |
| 00:05.09 | _ibz | can't explain it properly, but basically it seems as if it needs to be shifted up/down a bit... |
| 00:05.44 | Dessimat0r | _ibz: tis fine for me |
| 00:05.53 | Dessimat0r | ah, i see what you mean |
| 00:06.01 | Dessimat0r | thats for the other players |
| 00:06.06 | Dessimat0r | you can increase them |
| 00:06.48 | _ibz | nah, don't think so. |
| 00:07.00 | _ibz | it's on single player for me... |
| 00:07.25 | _ibz | and looking at the image on the homepage...this is not what it;s supposed to be like... |
| 00:08.36 | _ibz | something's screwed... |
| 00:08.45 | _ibz | any other nice games to recommend? |
| 00:09.27 | kergoth | _ibz: sfcave, puzz-le, opie-bounce, prboom |
| 00:09.46 | kergoth | :) |
| 00:10.00 | _ibz | kergoth thanks...haven't played bounce or prboom |
| 00:10.09 | _ibz | prboom being a first person shooter right? |
| 00:10.13 | kergoth | DOOM |
| 00:10.17 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:10.19 | _ibz | hehe |
| 00:10.28 | kergoth | it plays doom or doom 2 or what have you, just need the wads |
| 00:10.31 | kergoth | the free doom demo is avail |
| 00:10.34 | Dessimat0r | what we need is an unreal tournament clone, eheh ;) |
| 00:10.43 | kergoth | at 1fps! |
| 00:10.47 | kergoth | :P |
| 00:10.51 | Dessimat0r | rofl |
| 00:11.07 | Dessimat0r | kergoth: ever played Sneech or Poing? |
| 00:11.18 | kergoth | nope |
| 00:11.26 | Dessimat0r | both brilliant games |
| 00:11.33 | Dessimat0r | would be good on the Zaurus |
| 00:11.47 | Dessimat0r | Megalomania too ;) |
| 00:11.54 | Dessimat0r | and Scorched Tanks |
| 00:13.27 | cerezu | actually, a fps would be tight. |
| 00:13.43 | kergoth | cerezu: play some doom |
| 00:14.06 | cerezu | yea..q2 for the Z |
| 00:14.17 | cerezu | what we need is UT2K for Z ;-] haha |
| 00:14.22 | Dessimat0r | lmao |
| 00:14.30 | Dessimat0r | hmm |
| 00:14.41 | Dessimat0r | an Infantry type thing wouldn't be so difficult |
| 00:14.56 | Dessimat0r | a top down shooter |
| 00:14.58 | Dessimat0r | ooh! |
| 00:14.58 | kergoth | i want a game like the old scorched earth |
| 00:15.01 | Dessimat0r | Cannon Fodder |
| 00:15.05 | kergoth | which was the same type of game as the new Worms games |
| 00:15.33 | kergoth | i *really* want pinball on my Z |
| 00:15.38 | Dessimat0r | scorched tanks is better than scorched earth |
| 00:15.41 | Dessimat0r | believe me ;) |
| 00:15.53 | kergoth | heh, I play it for nostalgia's sake as much as anythign else |
| 00:15.55 | kergoth | :) |
| 00:16.06 | Dessimat0r | http://www.ifrance.com/ninjaw/cd32/_CD23GamerApril/Scorched.gif |
| 00:16.27 | Dessimat0r | it had about 100 weapons to choose from |
| 00:16.27 | kergoth | fancy |
| 00:16.30 | Dessimat0r | 10 types of shielf |
| 00:16.33 | Dessimat0r | shield |
| 00:16.34 | Dessimat0r | etc |
| 00:16.50 | Dessimat0r | rebound, deflect, warp |
| 00:17.05 | Dessimat0r | weapons included plasmatic rubber |
| 00:17.10 | kergoth | hah |
| 00:17.18 | Dessimat0r | one of my tactics was to surround yourself in plasmatic rubber |
| 00:17.40 | Dessimat0r | then shots deflect if they land near you |
| 00:17.40 | Dessimat0r | ;) |
| 00:17.40 | cerezu | old school |
| 00:18.13 | Dessimat0r | http://www.shoecake.com/images/sneech-small.jpg |
| 00:18.16 | Dessimat0r | a glimpse of Sneech |
| 00:18.34 | Dessimat0r | sometimes you had such long worms |
| 00:18.35 | kergoth | okay the collie stuff is in place, with some tweaks to make it compile.. but i still need to figure the ucb1x00 handling since that has changed. |
| 00:18.44 | Dessimat0r | that it was bloody hard to not crash :D |
| 00:18.55 | ljp | what? bloody mary? |
| 00:19.07 | kergoth | Sugar: make ljp a rum and coke |
| 00:19.12 | ljp | ahhh |
| 00:19.36 | Dessimat0r | Sugar: make jjp a dogmuck and catswee |
| 00:19.44 | Dessimat0r | oh well |
| 00:19.52 | Dessimat0r | rofl |
| 00:19.59 | _ibz | kergoth: got the prboom ipk at hand? |
| 00:20.03 | Dessimat0r | Sugar: make ljp a dogmuck and catswee |
| 00:20.03 | ljp | mmm rum coke |
| 00:20.06 | Dessimat0r | bah |
| 00:20.11 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 00:20.42 | cerezu | where do i get jeode? |
| 00:21.04 | ljp | sharp rom |
| 00:21.08 | _ibz | cerezu: from a 5500 rom |
| 00:21.35 | cerezu | i have one, but how do i take it apart? |
| 00:22.10 | _ibz | cerezu: there's an faq entry on it...provided you are running a linux box... |
| 00:22.12 | Dessimat0r | http://www.delphipages.com/threads/thread.cfm?ID=76168&G=76168 |
| 00:22.13 | Dessimat0r | LOL |
| 00:23.27 | cerezu | lol |
| 00:23.29 | cerezu | thats funny |
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| 00:25.20 | cerezu | power surge. |
| 00:26.51 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:26.51 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:26.51 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:26.51 | kergoth | +#if defined(CONFIG_SA1100_COLLIE) |
| 00:26.51 | kergoth | + udelay(1000); |
| 00:26.54 | kergoth | +#endif |
| 00:26.56 | kergoth | hmm |
| 00:26.59 | pb_ | heh |
| 00:27.26 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 00:27.57 | pb_ | does seem very weird. |
| 00:28.16 | kergoth | arch/arm/kernel/process.c |
| 00:28.24 | kergoth | i'll leave it out and see if reboots are flaky |
| 00:28.25 | kergoth | :) |
| 00:28.35 | cerezu | where do i get jeode again, from the rom, how would i take it apart, i have a linux box |
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| 00:29.04 | kergoth | cerezu: read the faq |
| 00:29.13 | kergoth | cerezu: download romburst, use it to rip apart the rom image |
| 00:31.55 | cerezu | kergoth: which faqtho? |
| 00:32.13 | kergoth | cerezu: search for it. i dont remember. should be in the oz site faq system |
| 00:32.29 | cerezu | i see |
| 00:32.51 | jserv | Hello, twiun. |
| 00:33.39 | kergoth | hey twiun_, belated happy b-day |
| 00:39.22 | Dessimat0r | lo twiun_, why didn't you tell us it was your birthday? :( |
| 00:39.28 | Dessimat0r | I would have congratulated |
| 00:39.38 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: i only saw it on community.zaurus.com |
| 00:39.40 | kergoth | the other day |
| 00:49.54 | cerezu | yayy..i got it workin [jeode] |
| 00:53.16 | kergoth | I see you baby. shakin that ass. shakin that ass. |
| 00:55.51 | sandman_ | kergoth: could you please fix the opie build system to regenerate Makefile when calling make in subdirs ? |
| 00:56.00 | sandman_ | It currently complains about $(QMAKE) not defined |
| 00:56.09 | kergoth | sandman_: yep. right now the build depends on vars at top level |
| 00:56.12 | kergoth | sandman_: right, exactly |
| 00:56.31 | sandman_ | workaround ? define $TOPDIR ? |
| 00:56.35 | kergoth | sandman_: its on the todo. for now do make -f Makefile.test path/to/app to build it |
| 00:56.52 | kergoth | sandman_: need TOPDIR, OPIEDIR, QMAKE=$(OPIEDIR)/qmake/qmake, afaicr |
| 00:56.52 | sandman_ | k |
| 00:58.22 | kergoth | okay, need to fix the ucb1x00/tc35143af situation a bit in the new kernel, but other than that it should be booting atm |
| 00:59.49 | cfish | btw. make image still complains: |
| 00:59.51 | cfish | ipkg: /home/fishbach/zaurus/OZ/buildroot-oz/output/ipks/opie-networksetup_*_arm.ipk: No such file or directory |
| 01:00.27 | kergoth | cfish: about to wipe my qt/e nad opie and test |
| 01:03.19 | cerezu | weird. keypebble isnt working |
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| 01:16.33 | DaWorm | hmmm..i always seem to miss these oz release announcements |
| 01:17.22 | cerezu | do i need nanoweb in order for the php package to work? |
| 01:17.53 | kergoth | cerezu: no, the other way around. |
| 01:18.00 | kergoth | cerezu: nanoweb is a web server written in php |
| 01:18.36 | cerezu | because i am trying to run php scripts from from konquerer, will that work? |
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| 01:18.54 | kergoth | ? |
| 01:19.18 | kergoth | cerezu: no |
| 01:19.24 | kergoth | cerezu: php is a server side language, not client side |
| 01:19.37 | kergoth | cerezu: you can run a nanoweb web server locally, and connect to it from konq |
| 01:19.45 | cerezu | oh ok. |
| 01:19.53 | cerezu | thats what i was thinkin too, thanks |
| 01:22.49 | DaWorm | ewww the zaurus.com dev site looks horrible in mozilla |
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| 01:23.32 | cranchy_ | what up! :D |
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| 01:25.24 | cerezu | yay...i got it workin. |
| 01:26.38 | cerezu | now i got php workin, is mysql or pgsql/postgre sql available for nanoweb? |
| 01:29.14 | jurrie_ | how's latest konq? stable or still crash-prone? |
| 01:29.28 | randy | been crashin on me jurrie_. not sure why |
| 01:30.30 | randy | cerezu: yep. mysql |
| 01:30.34 | jurrie_ | I moved Opera over to OZ but am lacking a launch icon and it doesn't have or can't display its menubar icons |
| 01:31.40 | cerezu | randy: where do i get mysql? |
| 01:31.48 | cerezu | randy: or was it already installed w/php4.2.3? |
| 01:31.56 | kergoth`bbl | jurrie_: that'd be a bug in the operacreator script, report it to complex |
| 01:31.59 | randy | cerezu: not sure. am trying to find out. |
| 01:32.54 | kergoth`bbl | cerezu: no sql is included with php, its just php |
| 01:33.24 | cerezu | kergoth: is sql available? |
| 01:33.25 | jurrie_ | I also noticed that the ipkg installation proggy sees ipks on CF double again |
| 01:33.59 | kergoth`bbl | jurrie_: it has nothing to do with the ipkg installation prog. |
| 01:34.04 | kergoth`bbl | jurrie_: it uses the documents tab. |
| 01:34.14 | kergoth`bbl | jurrie_: if opie's docs tab sees them multiple times, so does aqpkg. |
| 01:34.14 | jurrie_ | I realize that, but that's where I see it. :-) |
| 01:34.18 | kergoth`bbl | jurrie_: its a symlink. |
| 01:34.25 | kergoth`bbl | jurrie_: you have a link that its following and finds the files twice |
| 01:34.53 | jurrie_ | it's a standard OZ install.... I haven't done anything to the filesystems |
| 01:34.54 | kergoth`bbl | jurrie_: imho we need a launcher settings option to enalbe/disable following symlinks when propogating the docs tab |
| 01:35.03 | kergoth`bbl | jurrie_: huh? |
| 01:35.10 | kergoth`bbl | jurrie_: you just said its CF* |
| 01:35.16 | kergoth`bbl | jurrie_: you have a ssymlink or more on the CF card |
| 01:36.00 | jurrie_ | ahhh...... "On the CF" hmmmm... they're in the standard Zaurus Document directory structure |
| 01:36.20 | kergoth`bbl | again, its finding them twice due to a link somewbhere |
| 01:36.21 | jurrie_ | I'll move them to a more appropriate directory |
| 01:36.27 | jurrie_ | OK... I'll hunt it down |
| 01:36.41 | cerezu | kergoth: is there sql support for php available for nanoweb? shrug |
| 01:36.59 | kergoth`bbl | cerezu: i dont have the details. ask tmm1/aman or onyx4 |
| 01:37.04 | kergoth`bbl | cerezu: or hardware |
| 01:37.06 | kergoth`bbl | cerezu: hardwire that is |
| 01:37.28 | kergoth`bbl | in fact, i've never even installed them |
| 01:37.32 | cerezu | oh |
| 01:37.36 | kergoth`bbl | hehe |
| 01:38.19 | randy | kergoth`bbl: that brings up something about the faq that i have been thinking about |
| 01:39.18 | DaWorm | hehe |
| 01:39.29 | DaWorm | i just fancied installing apache once |
| 01:39.44 | kergoth`bbl | apache? gah, too bulky for embedded use, stick to nanoweb or boa |
| 01:39.44 | kergoth`bbl | :) |
| 01:39.48 | randy | kergoth`bbl: today i entered a few bugs on sf. you said to go report them to opie.info (still waiting for them to send my details). anyway, you guys might want to put something on the site explaining that you all don't write opie, or php or whatever. |
| 01:39.52 | hardwire | rawr |
| 01:40.25 | kergoth`bbl | randy: good idea. we're a distribution, which means we incorporate lots of other projects into our own and patch them and the like.. should mention that in the overview |
| 01:40.31 | randy | kergoth`bbl: that you all are just building oz. could cut down on some user confusion. of course, i am probably a special case :) |
| 01:41.05 | randy | kergoth`bbl: right. i was under the impression that you all did opie as well. |
| 01:41.27 | ljp | nope.. opie devs arent luzers :) |
| 01:41.36 | kergoth`bbl | randy: i have opie core cvs access, but the only dev i do is the occasional bug fix, and the opie buildsystem |
| 01:41.41 | kergoth`bbl | ljp: liar |
| 01:41.45 | ljp | hehe |
| 01:41.45 | DaWorm | hahah |
| 01:41.47 | kergoth`bbl | ljp: good thing i'm not one |
| 01:41.48 | kergoth`bbl | ljp: :P |
| 01:41.51 | randy | heheheh |
| 01:42.35 | kergoth`bbl | hm, doing too many things at once in this screen session, need to open another terminal and start a new one |
| 01:42.55 | ljp | I should install nothing but enough to run opie on some desktop |
| 01:43.22 | chouimat|away | ARGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!! |
| 01:43.27 | kergoth`bbl | chouimat|away: ? |
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| 01:43.49 | chouimat | kergoth`bbl: just qte build problem |
| 01:51.19 | randy | cerezu: mysql apparently half works: http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/zaurus-faq/sections/software.php3 - check #14 |
| 01:53.03 | kergoth`bbl | chouimat: bout to test it and do a build here |
| 01:57.13 | DaWorm | hmmm..im sure i installed apache+php and mysql then on ipkgs |
| 02:00.33 | randy | cerezu: here is a guy who has mysql 3.22 as an ipk : http://humphrey.applitec.com/zaurus/feed/Packages |
| 02:07.56 | randy | i need food |
| 02:08.00 | kergoth`bbl | randy: eat. |
| 02:08.05 | randy | heh |
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| 02:10.17 | KallDrexx | hey it's me! |
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| 02:12.28 | KallDrexx | hmm |
| 02:12.35 | KallDrexx | time to start using my zaurus agiain :P |
| 02:13.02 | jurrie_Z | sounds like a good plan |
| 02:13.14 | KallDrexx | heh it's been collecting dust for a long while |
| 02:16.56 | Dessimat0r | http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?s=85840a48d7a6bc99271d2286681fcafb&act=ST&f=7&t=54578&st=30 |
| 02:18.41 | Onyx4 | Dessimat0r: hey |
| 02:18.43 | Onyx4 | did you try my mplayer? |
| 02:19.10 | KallDrexx | Onyx4: hey! |
| 02:19.15 | Dessimat0r | Onyx4: No! |
| 02:19.17 | Dessimat0r | I must :) |
| 02:19.18 | Onyx4 | KallDrexx: long time no see |
| 02:19.21 | KallDrexx | yeah |
| 02:19.46 | KallDrexx | i lost my headphones so i can't listen to music/movies anymore on my z :-/ |
| 02:19.48 | Dessimat0r | Where may I get your mplayer? |
| 02:19.59 | kergoth | Onyx4: did you push your cp staging isntall fix for qt/e? |
| 02:20.04 | Onyx4 | kergoth: yes |
| 02:20.08 | kergoth | k good |
| 02:20.12 | Onyx4 | kergoth: I fixed a few staging install bugs |
| 02:20.13 | KallDrexx | Onyx4: does mplayer support .mov and .asf (the z version) |
| 02:20.31 | Onyx4 | KallDrexx: asf I think so, cause someone put a patch about that recently, mov probably not |
| 02:20.36 | Onyx4 | since it requires the quicktime x86 codecs |
| 02:20.39 | Onyx4 | no arm version |
| 02:20.47 | KallDrexx | ah |
| 02:21.09 | Onyx4 | but best now is to use avi/divx with ogg audio , all in an .ogm file |
| 02:21.22 | KallDrexx | does mencoder do that? |
| 02:21.28 | Onyx4 | I'm going to update my feed in a minute with all the latest changes I've applied today |
| 02:21.38 | Onyx4 | KallDrexx: yes |
| 02:21.41 | Dessimat0r | we are all men-coders here |
| 02:21.45 | KallDrexx | Onyx4: ooh does your script do that? |
| 02:21.51 | Onyx4 | KallDrexx: http://www.zeb.uklinux.net/encoding.html |
| 02:21.56 | Onyx4 | KallDrexx: no check that url |
| 02:21.59 | KallDrexx | k |
| 02:22.05 | chouimat | *BLECH* |
| 02:22.06 | Onyx4 | that guy did a better version of my scripts |
| 02:22.11 | Onyx4 | he used some of my stuff |
| 02:22.20 | Onyx4 | I just didn't have time to maintain them until I can get a decent mplayer for Z |
| 02:22.41 | KallDrexx | was a black background ever put behind mplayer while runnign? |
| 02:23.28 | Onyx4 | KallDrexx: this is done via xmms-e |
| 02:23.35 | Onyx4 | KallDrexx: but you need the fixed mplayer for it to work |
| 02:23.42 | Onyx4 | http://feed.onyx4.com/unstable/ |
| 02:23.46 | Onyx4 | ok it's updated now |
| 02:23.51 | Onyx4 | with latest build from mrproper |
| 02:23.56 | KallDrexx | the background thign? |
| 02:24.00 | Onyx4 | well use xmms-e |
| 02:24.11 | Onyx4 | mplayer in that feed works with it |
| 02:24.20 | Onyx4 | it's got qtopia gnuboy |
| 02:24.22 | KallDrexx | aww crappy, have to get sdax working in linxu to mount my zaurus >.< |
| 02:24.23 | Onyx4 | and keyring |
| 02:26.57 | KallDrexx | harg i forget where woudl the sdax stuff be eneabled in the kernel menuconfig |
| 02:28.04 | cerezu | its not fun when u run out of ram space ;-[ lol |
| 02:31.07 | KallDrexx | um |
| 02:31.09 | KallDrexx | hmm |
| 02:31.30 | KallDrexx | cdrecord --scanbus sees my cf reader.. so why is it telling me sda1 is not a valid block device |
| 02:31.33 | Onyx4 | anyone would like to see prboom in OZ? |
| 02:31.44 | DaWorm | indeed |
| 02:31.56 | DaWorm | and snes/nes emulators as well |
| 02:31.57 | Onyx4 | k that'd be my next port |
| 02:31.57 | DaWorm | :D |
| 02:32.04 | Onyx4 | there's already gnuboy |
| 02:32.11 | Onyx4 | but is there a good snes/nes working on Z? |
| 02:32.22 | DaWorm | someone started nes |
| 02:32.25 | DaWorm | but fell short |
| 02:32.29 | DaWorm | and just went poof |
| 02:32.33 | Onyx4 | ah, I don't code, I just package :) |
| 02:32.38 | DaWorm | snes none that i know |
| 02:32.39 | Onyx4 | and port |
| 02:32.53 | DaWorm | try a dirty snes port |
| 02:32.55 | Onyx4 | i'm asking in terms of existing stuff that you'd like to see bundled and updated in OZ feeds |
| 02:32.58 | DaWorm | id be happy to test out |
| 02:33.02 | DaWorm | ahhh |
| 02:34.24 | kergoth | DaWorm: advantage of this is, any apps inthe oz feeds are handy, tweaked for oz specificially, and will be in the gcc3 feed if you want to use that rom |
| 02:34.50 | Onyx4 | exactly, so now all that I'd be missing for gcc3 would pretty much be the eon games ($) |
| 02:35.09 | Onyx4 | other than that, I'm gonna put everything else people need in the feed |
| 02:35.24 | kergoth | Onyx4: and if we produce a opie sdk and package the toolchain into a rpm/deb, i suspect he'd incorporate into his builds |
| 02:35.28 | DaWorm | i'd sacrifice a few games for better speed and performance |
| 02:35.51 | kergoth | gcc3 is definately -noticably- faster |
| 02:36.23 | cerezu | whats prboom? |
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| 02:36.48 | kergoth | cerezu: lets you play doom/doom2 on your Z |
| 02:36.55 | cerezu | oh. |
| 02:37.15 | DaWorm | its great |
| 02:38.37 | kergoth | anyone testing aqpkg installs of packages directly from the feeds in oz 3.1rc1 yet? |
| 02:38.42 | kergoth | just got a bug report, and i cant test at home |
| 02:43.33 | MS_away | kergoth: I will be in a sec |
| 02:43.37 | MS_away | as soon as I flash |
| 02:43.42 | kergoth | cool |
| 02:44.09 | kergoth | shoudl be booting 2.4.19 shortly |
| 02:44.20 | kergoth | course i'm juggling enough shit atm |
| 02:44.24 | ljp | thats crazy! |
| 02:44.27 | kergoth | chouimat: tried qt/e lately? |
| 02:44.33 | kergoth | chouimat: (build) |
| 02:45.29 | Onyx4 | awesome keyring works, kismet-qt as well! |
| 02:45.50 | KallDrexx | arg i want to read my cf dangit |
| 02:45.50 | Onyx4 | kergoth: I'm running the libqte I just build |
| 02:45.52 | Onyx4 | works fine |
| 02:45.57 | Onyx4 | I just upgraded all of opie from today |
| 02:46.17 | kergoth | yeh |
| 02:46.21 | kergoth | my qt/e built fine too, i'm building opie atm |
| 02:47.09 | ljp | does opie ever get mopie? |
| 02:47.14 | Onyx4 | we're looking pretty good for rc2 so far |
| 02:47.22 | Dessimat0r | ooh, GGC3 standarisation soon? ;) |
| 02:47.23 | kergoth | Onyx4: yep |
| 02:47.26 | Dessimat0r | GCC |
| 02:47.26 | kergoth | ljp: had enough rum yet? |
| 02:47.27 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 02:47.31 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: standardization? |
| 02:48.34 | Onyx4 | ok xmms-e works with mplayer!!! |
| 02:48.37 | Onyx4 | in fullscreen |
| 02:48.41 | kergoth | spiffy |
| 02:48.50 | Onyx4 | the problem was SDL |
| 02:48.50 | Dessimat0r | yeah, in that the ones with GCC3.2 will become the major OZs, the lesser GCC ones will become less used |
| 02:48.55 | Dessimat0r | man that was hard to construct ;) |
| 02:49.09 | Onyx4 | kergoth: make sure the mrproper and rebuild the libqte-sdl and the apps that depends on sdl |
| 02:49.17 | kergoth | Onyx4: k |
| 02:49.18 | Onyx4 | eg, mplayer, libsdl-mixer, libsdl-net |
| 02:49.22 | ljp | need .... more.... rum... |
| 02:49.28 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: gcc3 rom will be avil shortly, its building now |
| 02:49.31 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: (3.1rc1) |
| 02:49.37 | Dessimat0r | ;) |
| 02:49.38 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: it has both pluses and minuses. |
| 02:49.50 | *** join/#openzaurus gragusa (~gragusa@66-74-217-31.san.rr.com) |
| 02:49.54 | Dessimat0r | like incompatabilities with third party stuff |
| 02:49.59 | Dessimat0r | and SD will not work |
| 02:50.02 | Dessimat0r | ? |
| 02:50.09 | chouimat | kergoth: lot of trouble building them here |
| 02:50.10 | kergoth | ? |
| 02:50.14 | kergoth | sd works fine in gcc3 |
| 02:50.20 | Dessimat0r | or is the SD thing with a newer kernel? |
| 02:50.21 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 02:50.21 | kergoth | chouimat: bk pull? onyx4 fixes a staging problem |
| 02:50.30 | kergoth | chouimat: wipe your staging and stamps/.*staging* |
| 02:50.53 | chouimat | kergoth: just fixed the links thing |
| 02:51.05 | Onyx4 | kergoth: ok I need to fix zuc, it's built with just qt, not qte , so it's got this ugly look heh |
| 02:51.36 | Dessimat0r | Can't wait to try out GCC3.2 ROM ;) |
| 02:51.45 | kergoth | Onyx4: ahh |
| 02:51.50 | gragusa | how the apm is working for you guys on the 3.1rc? |
| 02:51.52 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: its been available for months |
| 02:51.55 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: just old versions |
| 02:52.01 | Dessimat0r | I mean for OZ3.1rc1 ;) |
| 02:52.02 | kergoth | gragusa: works flawlessly. alarms work great, time works great |
| 02:52.31 | gragusa | does not work in my zaurus |
| 02:52.37 | gragusa | been testing |
| 02:52.54 | chouimat | kergoth: how is the kernel going? |
| 02:53.01 | gragusa | kernel fine |
| 02:53.21 | gragusa | i have been testing almost everything |
| 02:53.32 | kergoth | chouimat: well. just about ready to fire it up, need to put the IRQ defines into collie.h instead of irqs.h, since theres no need to clutter that up |
| 02:53.55 | kergoth | gragusa: 'does not work' tells me *nothing*. |
| 02:54.02 | kergoth | gragusa: throw me a fucking bone here. |
| 02:54.06 | kergoth | gragusa: actual information helps |
| 02:54.06 | chouimat | kergoth: ETA? for the new year? |
| 02:54.59 | gragusa | ok...I get always 100% battery reading . It suspend with 10-15 secs delay |
| 02:55.35 | kergoth | gragusa: suspend has about a 2 second delay, btw. |
| 02:55.57 | gragusa | kergoth: but mine is 10-15 |
| 02:56.10 | kergoth | gragusa: then its your problem. |
| 02:56.19 | kergoth | i have at least 20 users so far for whom it works flawlessly |
| 02:56.47 | gragusa | kergoth: ok, I will try something.. |
| 02:56.52 | kergoth | gragusa: k |
| 02:57.50 | gragusa | kergoth: btw, good job! |
| 02:58.19 | kergoth | gragusa: hm, odd that you're seeing difficulty though |
| 02:58.26 | kergoth | gragusa: 5500, 5500g, or 5000d? |
| 02:58.36 | gragusa | kergoth: 5500 |
| 02:59.13 | gragusa | kergoth: i will try to flash again. Anyway, everything else is working great, after 12 hours of testing |
| 02:59.17 | kergoth | gragusa: hm, thought it might be something with the german units, hunger reports the same 100% bug. but it no longe raffects him |
| 03:02.24 | Onyx4 | is there a way with a .pro file to do something do make the compiler add -DQPE on the command line? |
| 03:02.31 | Onyx4 | like CFLAGS += -DQPE ? |
| 03:02.42 | kergoth | Onyx4: DEFINES += QPE afaicr |
| 03:02.48 | kergoth | Onyx4: check the tmake/qmake docs |
| 03:03.12 | Onyx4 | cool that works |
| 03:03.54 | Onyx4 | basicly his .pro file was missing that for zuc |
| 03:04.03 | kergoth | ah |
| 03:04.03 | Onyx4 | because he wrote his program so that it works with qt also |
| 03:04.09 | kergoth | gotcha |
| 03:04.23 | kergoth | i was wondering why it looked like qt app.. |
| 03:04.46 | Onyx4 | yeah if they don't use the qpeapplication create thing instead of just qapplication |
| 03:05.52 | kergoth | yeap |
| 03:05.58 | *** join/#openzaurus dep (~chatzilla@h24-77-50-229.gv.shawcable.net) |
| 03:06.07 | ljp | blasphamy! |
| 03:07.48 | MSpin | ugh, I need to work on kismet-qt |
| 03:08.22 | ljp | drink rum and coffee! |
| 03:09.07 | MSpin | heheh |
| 03:09.19 | Dessimat0r | there is certainly a lot of activity over in #opie.. </sarcasm> |
| 03:09.48 | ljp | thats a german channel :) |
| 03:10.42 | Dessimat0r | Schnell! |
| 03:10.57 | ljp | I guess germans go to sleep early |
| 03:11.01 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 03:11.09 | ljp | except tronical |
| 03:11.11 | Dessimat0r | Germans are +1 hour ;) |
| 03:11.17 | Dessimat0r | of GMT |
| 03:11.19 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 03:11.25 | Dessimat0r | 4:17am over there |
| 03:11.29 | Dessimat0r | I see your point... |
| 03:12.05 | Dessimat0r | seen this? ;) > http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?s=85840a48d7a6bc99271d2286681fcafb&act=ST&f=7&t=54578&st=30 < |
| 03:12.26 | ljp | if we all just used swatch time, we could all be awake at the same moment! |
| 03:12.28 | Dessimat0r | Is mstrmind TMM1/aman from here? |
| 03:13.32 | Onyx4 | ok now zuc is a qte app , has the new look, but is not fullscreen, strange |
| 03:13.34 | kergoth | sandman_: good idea ;) |
| 03:13.45 | kergoth | Onyx4: are they calling show() or showMaximized()? |
| 03:14.20 | Onyx4 | zucmw.show(); |
| 03:14.44 | Onyx4 | no maximized |
| 03:14.45 | ljp | oh and sandman stays up late |
| 03:14.48 | kergoth | try showMaximized |
| 03:14.54 | kergoth | ljp: we noticed, thanks |
| 03:14.54 | kergoth | ljp: :P |
| 03:14.54 | sandman_ | kergoth: "app can not be started" notification and "ungrab keyboard from crashing apps" are working now (not commited yet) |
| 03:14.58 | Dessimat0r | I'm up late at 3:21 AM ;) |
| 03:15.07 | kergoth | sandman_: woo. nice work :) |
| 03:15.11 | Dessimat0r | got to get up at 7:30 AM |
| 03:15.13 | ljp | hmm |
| 03:15.15 | sandman_ | kergoth: so I can catch some sleep now :) |
| 03:15.20 | kergoth | sandman_: night :) |
| 03:15.27 | sandman_ | n8 all |
| 03:16.21 | Dessimat0r | zzz |
| 03:16.34 | Onyx4 | kergoth: k trying... |
| 03:17.16 | kergoth | Onyx4: k |
| 03:19.00 | Dessimat0r | heh |
| 03:19.24 | Onyx4 | kergoth: that fixed it, thanks |
| 03:19.27 | Onyx4 | I'll put that change |
| 03:19.39 | kergoth | Onyx4: np |
| 03:19.59 | ljp | with all these old p33's I have around here, I could start selling the "Opie box'! |
| 03:20.33 | Onyx4 | ok so far the rest seems to be ok in the new apps that I added |
| 03:20.33 | ljp | woot! |
| 03:20.44 | Onyx4 | kergoth: you can enable keyring and libgdbm for the feed |
| 03:21.30 | kergoth | Onyx4: k |
| 03:22.10 | *** join/#openzaurus TheMasterMind1 (foobar@h-69-3-154-60.MCLNVA23.covad.net) |
| 03:22.22 | TheMasterMind1 | sup |
| 03:22.28 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: hey |
| 03:22.36 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: I fixed mplayer so that it doesn't use SDLmain |
| 03:22.47 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: nothing in fact now will use it unless we manually force it |
| 03:23.34 | *** part/#openzaurus cranch (~cranch@host-118-155-220-24.midco.net) |
| 03:23.54 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: yep, saw the logs. great job |
| 03:24.50 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: whats new |
| 03:24.57 | Dessimat0r | in soviet russia, openzaurus builds YOU. |
| 03:25.02 | Onyx4 | I tried it with xmms-e and it seems to work, altough you can't use the keys , and everything you scwitch between fs and normal window mode, it restarts the movie |
| 03:25.09 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: working on 2.4.19 |
| 03:25.21 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: how far have you gotten |
| 03:25.31 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: just about done with what needs doing to get it booting |
| 03:25.36 | TheMasterMind1 | sweet |
| 03:25.40 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: then ill work on the keyboard driver |
| 03:25.45 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: cause its absolute crap |
| 03:26.19 | TheMasterMind1 | nice |
| 03:26.32 | TheMasterMind1 | all in bk yet or not? |
| 03:26.36 | kergoth | cerezu: want to assist on the keyboard driver? |
| 03:26.38 | Dessimat0r | TheMasterMind1: Is this you here? http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?s=85840a48d7a6bc99271d2286681fcafb&act=ST&f=7&t=54578&st=30 |
| 03:26.41 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: going to get it booting first |
| 03:26.53 | Dessimat0r | as mstrmind |
| 03:27.25 | TheMasterMind1 | Dessimat0r: nope |
| 03:27.29 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 03:27.31 | Dessimat0r | alright ;) |
| 03:28.01 | Dessimat0r | gn all |
| 03:28.22 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: kismet-qt works too |
| 03:28.28 | *** part/#openzaurus guised|sleep (~guised@S64-216.DATANET.NYU.EDU) |
| 03:28.36 | kergoth | night Dessimat0r |
| 03:28.39 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: niiiiiiice |
| 03:29.13 | Onyx4 | I'm actually glad I disabled logging by default, because with kismet-qt, it logs stuff into /root |
| 03:29.21 | Onyx4 | it only logs network and xml files |
| 03:29.54 | *** join/#openzaurus caffeine (~zic@clt74-77-210.carolina.rr.com) |
| 03:30.38 | kergoth | Onyx4: doesnt kismet log to $HOME by default too? |
| 03:30.56 | Onyx4 | mmm not sure I think it logs from where it was started |
| 03:31.11 | Onyx4 | but that could be the case |
| 03:32.11 | Onyx4 | my clock seems to finally hold now |
| 03:32.14 | Onyx4 | heh |
| 03:32.38 | Onyx4 | oh yeah datetime has a bug in the gui |
| 03:32.44 | Onyx4 | if you have advanced options enable |
| 03:32.46 | Onyx4 | and restart clock |
| 03:32.51 | Onyx4 | it shows twice the ntp and predict tab |
| 03:33.17 | MSpin | what's all this /bin/bash: dpkg-architecture: command not found stuff when I build binutils?!?!? ;) |
| 03:33.28 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: yep, i reported it |
| 03:33.33 | Onyx4 | cool |
| 03:33.45 | kergoth | MSpin: toolchain build requires debian atm |
| 03:33.49 | kergoth | MSpin: havent had time to fix |
| 03:34.24 | MSpin | k, where were those prebuilt toolchains? my kernel/libc builds are complaining |
| 03:34.34 | kergoth | MSpin: http://openzaurus.org/official/toolchain/ |
| 03:35.21 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: great job with the sdl fixes |
| 03:35.51 | *** topic/#openzaurus by TheMasterMind1 -> OpenZaurus project - http://www.openzaurus.org/ | opensource java for oz coming REAL soon | Women are hyperthreaded. | OpenZaurus 3.1 release candidate 1 is now available. Testers wanted! http://www.openzaurus.org/oz_website/content/download?release_id=3 | lirc works - ipkg install and run "zremote" from console |
| 03:36.17 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: add a lirc/remote faq |
| 03:36.19 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: :) |
| 03:36.28 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: yes, now I'll start porting prboom, this will be the real test if we did everything right |
| 03:36.33 | MSpin | Onyx4: actually kismet-qt hung on me, so I need to dork around with that |
| 03:36.56 | Onyx4 | MSpin: did you configure it for OZ rom in the setup? and have the latest kismet package too? |
| 03:37.12 | kergoth | Onyx4: note: MSpin wrote kismet-qt. |
| 03:37.14 | MSpin | Onyx4: yup:) |
| 03:37.16 | MSpin | hehe |
| 03:37.22 | Onyx4 | oops |
| 03:37.23 | Onyx4 | ok :) |
| 03:37.42 | Onyx4 | well it worked here.. wanna test my ipk ? |
| 03:38.02 | MSpin | I had jsut installed the one in the feed, is yours a different build? |
| 03:38.16 | Onyx4 | yes, it's from today's build |
| 03:38.30 | Onyx4 | http://feed.onyx4.com/unstable/ |
| 03:38.43 | MSpin | I'll prolly dork around with it more tomorrow |
| 03:38.52 | Onyx4 | it's the same revision but try to -force-reinstall |
| 03:38.57 | Onyx4 | and see why it doesn't work |
| 03:39.27 | Onyx4 | should I use cvs of kismet-qt? |
| 03:39.29 | Onyx4 | or just 1.3.0? |
| 03:40.13 | MSpin | I think they are the same now |
| 03:40.19 | Onyx4 | ok |
| 03:40.23 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: -force-reinstall doesn't work |
| 03:40.28 | TheMasterMind1 | ipkg remove and then install :) |
| 03:40.29 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: yes it does |
| 03:40.30 | Onyx4 | it works locally |
| 03:40.32 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: locally only |
| 03:40.35 | Onyx4 | yeah |
| 03:40.36 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: ah, ok |
| 03:40.42 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: feed installs it doesnt |
| 03:40.44 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:40.59 | TheMasterMind1 | stupid ipkg code |
| 03:41.02 | TheMasterMind1 | need to fix it sometime. |
| 03:41.08 | MSpin | that's actually something to think about, better ways to either build with current CVS of packages or known-good |
| 03:41.21 | Onyx4 | all we need now is the hwkey grab/config for qtopiagnuboy from numatrix |
| 03:41.27 | Onyx4 | then we'll be set for games after I do prboom :) |
| 03:41.41 | kergoth | MSpin: for the most part we tag cvs downloads to a certain date and test prior to setting the build to it |
| 03:41.42 | TheMasterMind1 | mnnnn |
| 03:41.49 | kergoth | MSpin: only certain apps are built from CVS HEAD |
| 03:41.52 | kergoth | MSpin: i.e. opie |
| 03:41.59 | MSpin | ahh ok |
| 03:42.00 | TheMasterMind1 | and ipkg, which doesn't change much |
| 03:42.07 | TheMasterMind1 | and when it does, its usually for the better |
| 03:42.20 | Onyx4 | mplayer is from cvs head too |
| 03:43.30 | TheMasterMind1 | yep |
| 03:43.36 | Onyx4 | kergoth: is there a place where you set the flag for libc-utils in the make menuconfig? |
| 03:43.44 | Onyx4 | kergoth: cause I couldn't see how I could build a seperate package for ldconfig |
| 03:43.44 | MSpin | Onyx4: that build seems to work, odd@ |
| 03:43.49 | kergoth | Onyx4: huh? |
| 03:43.57 | Onyx4 | MSpin: kergoth maybe forgot to rebuild it with the good qte snapshot? |
| 03:43.57 | kergoth | Onyx4: utilites |
| 03:44.00 | kergoth | Onyx4: utilities |
| 03:44.17 | kergoth | Onyx4: its not in libraries |
| 03:44.39 | MSpin | oh, wow this is interesting, my neighbor seems to be running a 22mbps network |
| 03:44.45 | TheMasterMind1 | heheh |
| 03:44.49 | MSpin | I'm surprised my 11mbps card could pick it up |
| 03:44.50 | TheMasterMind1 | hows that possible/ |
| 03:45.07 | TheMasterMind1 | any new kismet-qt features lately? |
| 03:45.08 | TheMasterMind1 | i need to try it |
| 03:45.13 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: send me your kismet-qt ipk |
| 03:45.24 | Onyx4 | http://feed.onyx4.com/unstable/ |
| 03:45.24 | MSpin | TMM: some of the manufacturers have some exntesions that use two channels |
| 03:45.32 | TheMasterMind1 | cool |
| 03:45.38 | MSpin | aka, pollute the spectrum |
| 03:45.45 | TheMasterMind1 | hah |
| 03:45.46 | Onyx4 | I'll update to -2 so that it'll upgrade for rc2 |
| 03:45.56 | MSpin | 802.11{a,b,g} suck |
| 03:47.08 | Onyx4 | now it's -2 in bk for kismet-qt |
| 03:47.33 | TheMasterMind1 | nice |
| 03:47.41 | *** join/#openzaurus Onyx4|Z (onyx4@adsl-63-194-216-219.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 03:47.53 | Onyx4 | heh opie-irc crashed |
| 03:47.55 | Onyx4 | upon joining |
| 03:48.14 | *** join/#openzaurus Onyx4|Z (onyx4@adsl-63-194-216-219.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 03:48.22 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: yea, its shit |
| 03:48.28 | Onyx4 | you bet |
| 03:48.29 | TheMasterMind1 | i gdb and submitted bug report |
| 03:48.46 | Onyx4 | zuc in my feed is fixed |
| 03:48.52 | Onyx4 | has the qpe look now |
| 03:49.18 | TheMasterMind1 | zuc? |
| 03:49.20 | TheMasterMind1 | whats that |
| 03:49.33 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm kismet-qt hung the z |
| 03:49.40 | TheMasterMind1 | doh.. |
| 03:49.45 | TheMasterMind1 | i was ssh'd in |
| 03:49.46 | TheMasterMind1 | grr |
| 03:50.02 | Onyx4 | zuc, zaurus unit converter |
| 03:50.06 | Onyx4 | like from miles to km |
| 03:50.07 | TheMasterMind1 | ah ok |
| 03:50.10 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 03:50.12 | TheMasterMind1 | doesn't opie calc do that? |
| 03:50.21 | Onyx4 | this one is way more advanced |
| 03:50.24 | TheMasterMind1 | cool |
| 03:51.15 | DaWorm | yeah zuc is great |
| 03:51.30 | TheMasterMind1 | hey Da |
| 03:51.31 | TheMasterMind1 | hey DaWorm |
| 03:51.35 | TheMasterMind1 | how goes the icon thing |
| 03:52.07 | DaWorm | well i got denied using the icons |
| 03:52.17 | DaWorm | but i'm still building the loader using other icons |
| 03:52.21 | TheMasterMind1 | cool |
| 03:52.25 | TheMasterMind1 | how come they denied permission |
| 03:52.30 | TheMasterMind1 | and the icons are gpl too |
| 03:52.53 | DaWorm | well everaldo (the icon designer) said he has an upcoming zaurus project he wouldnt tell |
| 03:53.29 | DaWorm | hmmm..i didnt search for info if the icons are gpl at all |
| 03:53.33 | DaWorm | i'll check |
| 03:53.57 | TheMasterMind1 | MSpin: i think kismet-qt is changing channels way too fast. doesn't detect my ad-hoc network at all |
| 03:54.33 | MSpin | TheMasterMind1: I got a bug report on that |
| 03:54.40 | Onyx4 | doesn't it just use the value from kismet.conf ? |
| 03:54.44 | Onyx4 | for hopping |
| 03:54.48 | MSpin | Onyx4: nope:) |
| 03:54.48 | TheMasterMind1 | *shrug* |
| 03:54.54 | TheMasterMind1 | my light is like constantly on |
| 03:54.54 | Onyx4 | ah |
| 03:54.57 | TheMasterMind1 | so i know its going ultrafast |
| 03:54.58 | MSpin | I'm gonna look at that this week |
| 03:55.00 | Onyx4 | me too |
| 03:55.17 | MSpin | ksimet_hopper switches every 1/3 of a second too |
| 03:55.25 | Onyx4 | MSpin: it'd be nice to display the little signal level like in the real kismet |
| 03:55.27 | MSpin | so it's switching at just about the same speed |
| 03:55.55 | MSpin | Onyx4: I used to, but it didn't seem to work, but that could be my card |
| 03:57.49 | Onyx4 | well there is 2 ways of doing the signal level, displaying the real value from the hardware, or just figuring it out by the numbers of packets |
| 03:57.58 | Onyx4 | I think the default is what kismet does, just by the last packets |
| 03:58.54 | MSpin | yeah, but it never changed |
| 03:59.01 | Onyx4 | k |
| 03:59.08 | MSpin | it was strange |
| 03:59.18 | MSpin | I can add it back tho |
| 03:59.19 | Onyx4 | yay prboom compiles! |
| 03:59.22 | Onyx4 | just need to package it now |
| 03:59.30 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: niiice |
| 03:59.46 | MSpin | I jsut need to get this stupid bluetooth card working |
| 04:00.00 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: have you seen the doomdemo thing? its has a nice doom icon and the shareware doom rom |
| 04:00.07 | TheMasterMind1 | that'd be nice to have |
| 04:00.12 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: yes I will most likely fetch that |
| 04:00.34 | Onyx4 | TheMasterMind1: so I'll configure it so that if the user puts the wad file in the right place, it'll start it |
| 04:00.41 | TheMasterMind1 | yep |
| 04:00.41 | Onyx4 | but we won't provide a default wad right? |
| 04:00.52 | TheMasterMind1 | i don't think so |
| 04:00.55 | Onyx4 | k |
| 04:00.56 | TheMasterMind1 | maybe as a seperate ipk |
| 04:01.07 | TheMasterMind1 | the shareware is free to distribute so i guess we can |
| 04:01.08 | Onyx4 | yeah I'd need a good place to download it from |
| 04:01.14 | Onyx4 | for the buildroot |
| 04:01.18 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 04:02.22 | TheMasterMind1 | http://killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=790 |
| 04:02.51 | *** join/#openzaurus mrwoody (paolo@53-pool2.ras12.nynyc-t.alerondial.net) |
| 04:03.13 | TheMasterMind1 | friend at school wrote it |
| 04:03.18 | TheMasterMind1 | he just switched to oz |
| 04:03.18 | DaWorm | hmm...zsync lives again |
| 04:03.19 | DaWorm | hehe |
| 04:03.27 | TheMasterMind1 | DaWorm: this one is seperate |
| 04:03.31 | TheMasterMind1 | written from scratch |
| 04:03.32 | DaWorm | ahhh |
| 04:03.40 | TheMasterMind1 | apparently he didn't know there was one written already :) |
| 04:03.49 | DaWorm | oh wait |
| 04:03.56 | DaWorm | i believe the other one was named ZeSync |
| 04:03.57 | DaWorm | hehe |
| 04:04.03 | TheMasterMind1 | indeed |
| 04:05.49 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: am i still the only one that has the problem of the cf umount/mount after resume? |
| 04:05.57 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: with oz3.1rc1? |
| 04:06.01 | TheMasterMind1 | you're still having the problem? |
| 04:06.05 | TheMasterMind1 | but its been fixed!! |
| 04:06.18 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: i am still having that problem |
| 04:06.22 | TheMasterMind1 | damn |
| 04:06.26 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: with oz3.1rc1 |
| 04:06.38 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: on suspend/resume you see cardmgr calling stop/start ? |
| 04:07.01 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: ok wait |
| 04:07.14 | TheMasterMind1 | look at logread |
| 04:07.20 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: yes |
| 04:07.22 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i saw his log. its doing the same thing. |
| 04:07.24 | TheMasterMind1 | Onyx4: when's your feed's opie build from |
| 04:07.28 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: jeez.. |
| 04:07.31 | kergoth | mrwoody: did you ever test it in console like i said? |
| 04:07.35 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: did you use one of the new zimages? |
| 04:07.39 | mrwoody | kergoth: yes i did |
| 04:07.50 | kergoth | mrwoody: and? |
| 04:08.16 | chouimat|shower | hey mrwoody KallDrexx kergoth |
| 04:08.21 | KallDrexx | hey chouimat|shower |
| 04:08.33 | mrwoody | kergoth: i send you the logread stuff this morning |
| 04:08.33 | KallDrexx | god |
| 04:08.35 | KallDrexx | i want ot use my zaurus |
| 04:08.38 | KallDrexx | this sucks |
| 04:08.47 | mrwoody | chouimat: hey still in canada? |
| 04:09.00 | chouimat | mrwoody: leaving thursday night |
| 04:09.44 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1, mrwoody: so it behaves the same in console as in opie. |
| 04:09.49 | kergoth | hmm |
| 04:10.46 | mrwoody | kergoth: yes |
| 04:10.48 | mrwoody | Onyx4 has the same cf card as mine... |
| 04:11.04 | KallDrexx | chouimat: so hows it been? |
| 04:11.20 | kergoth | Onyx4: are you seeing stop/start after resume? the imfamous suspend cf issue w/ 3.1rc1? |
| 04:11.34 | TheMasterMind1 | | initrd.bin | 211 | |
| 04:11.44 | chouimat | KallDrexx: works, works, works etc ... |
| 04:12.18 | mrwoody | chouimat: + dreaming of swiss choccolate... |
| 04:12.52 | chouimat | mrwoody: nah! swiss chicks, or italian one, will be near ;) |
| 04:13.20 | mrwoody | chouimat: italian chichs... nah... |
| 04:13.39 | chouimat | mrwoody: hehe |
| 04:14.26 | mrwoody | chouimat: in italy we say "se la tirano troppo"... but it is kind of impossible to translate into english |
| 04:14.48 | chouimat | mrwoody: try in french |
| 04:15.23 | mrwoody | chouimat: well i have first to learn to speak french |
| 04:15.49 | mrwoody | chouimat: anyway it just means... too difficoult to get |
| 04:16.19 | chouimat | mrwoody: ok look but don't touch |
| 04:16.54 | TheMasterMind1 | hah |
| 04:16.57 | mrwoody | chouimat: ok! :-) |
| 04:17.44 | mrwoody | chouimat: i don't know about swiss though... the only one that i knew was great |
| 04:18.11 | chouimat | mrwoody: hehe, like the swedish one I knew once :) |
| 04:19.45 | mrwoody | chouimat: swedish are completely different from italian... for a long time, sweden was my best country |
| 04:20.57 | TheMasterMind1 | sweeeeeeet |
| 04:21.01 | TheMasterMind1 | sandman fixed clock |
| 04:22.47 | mrwoody | chouimat: i used to love swedish girls so much until one day i get married with a chinese girl :-) |
| 04:23.07 | kergoth | mrwoody: hah |
| 04:23.42 | chouimat | mrwoody: only get married with a French Canadian one, but when we divorced she was more like a french one :) |
| 04:23.54 | mrwoody | :-) |
| 04:24.08 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: any progress with kernel |
| 04:24.45 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: yup it's able to download porn |
| 04:24.48 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: bout to flash a test zImage |
| 04:24.53 | DaWorm | nyahahaha |
| 04:24.53 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:25.00 | kergoth | chouimat always has one thing on his mind.. |
| 04:25.05 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 04:25.19 | kergoth | hm, i just realized |
| 04:25.25 | kergoth | that all i've eaten all day today |
| 04:25.27 | chouimat | kergoth: actually two. $$$ being the first one :) |
| 04:25.28 | kergoth | is a bag of popcorn |
| 04:25.31 | kergoth | hmm |
| 04:25.35 | DaWorm | hmmm.. |
| 04:25.41 | DaWorm | i only have $10 in my wallet |
| 04:25.44 | DaWorm | i gotta get some cash |
| 04:25.45 | DaWorm | bbl |
| 04:26.08 | chouimat | kergoth: order something |
| 04:26.12 | DaWorm | or cook maruchan |
| 04:26.13 | DaWorm | hehe |
| 04:26.21 | DaWorm | or chef boyardee |
| 04:26.22 | kergoth | i have ramen,, but i'm not in the mood for ramen |
| 04:26.28 | DaWorm | or something |
| 04:26.28 | kergoth | dont have any chef boyardee |
| 04:26.33 | kergoth | could always grill up some chicken sandwiches |
| 04:26.35 | kergoth | thats easy |
| 04:26.46 | kergoth | which is why i always keep boneless chicken breasts onhand.. |
| 04:26.51 | chouimat | kergoth: I have some kraft pizza here |
| 04:26.54 | kergoth | you know, a pizza sounds *really* good though |
| 04:28.31 | kergoth | hmm papa johns is still open |
| 04:29.04 | chouimat | papa johns? |
| 04:29.07 | TheMasterMind1 | | initrd.bin | 1888 | |
| 04:29.10 | TheMasterMind1 | oz3.0 downloads |
| 04:29.18 | TheMasterMind1 | and that's from after the release too |
| 04:29.31 | TheMasterMind1 | impressive eh? |
| 04:30.39 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: nice |
| 04:30.41 | kergoth | chouimat: pizza joint |
| 04:31.37 | DaWorm | damn wish i can have pizza too |
| 04:34.06 | TheMasterMind1 | we should add mooview to buildroot |
| 04:34.08 | TheMasterMind1 | its a nice app |
| 04:34.49 | DaWorm | zimage is also nice |
| 04:34.50 | kergoth | night chouimat|Zzzz |
| 04:35.17 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: have you ever tried qpphoto? |
| 04:35.19 | DaWorm | and noteZ is now part of my standard app |
| 04:35.24 | TheMasterMind1 | mrwoody: nope |
| 04:35.46 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: it is the best gpl image viewer/editor i have ever tried |
| 04:35.50 | TheMasterMind1 | sweet |
| 04:35.52 | mrwoody | for the z of course |
| 04:36.03 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 04:36.21 | DaWorm | editor |
| 04:36.24 | DaWorm | i tried one of those things |
| 04:36.30 | DaWorm | i found out i cannot do a save as |
| 04:36.33 | mrwoody | http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=691 |
| 04:36.39 | kergoth | DaWorm: try tinykate |
| 04:36.46 | kergoth | DaWorm: :) |
| 04:36.51 | DaWorm | whoa |
| 04:36.56 | DaWorm | kate |
| 04:36.57 | DaWorm | i like that |
| 04:37.34 | TheMasterMind1 | grr |
| 04:37.42 | kergoth | DaWorm: in opie cvs |
| 04:37.51 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:37.55 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 04:37.57 | TheMasterMind1 | can't type |
| 04:38.02 | TheMasterMind1 | used to typing on that damn Z keyboard now |
| 04:39.02 | DaWorm | im thinking if i have to reflash to 3.1 rc1 right now, since i dont have a wireless card or ethernet card at the moment to upgrade |
| 04:39.19 | TheMasterMind1 | goddamit |
| 04:39.32 | TheMasterMind1 | none of these damn image viewers let me browse dirs |
| 04:39.36 | TheMasterMind1 | they all wanna use the documents tab |
| 04:39.46 | DaWorm | and my office mate is driving me crazy with his ketchup song mp3 |
| 04:39.51 | mrwoody | TheMasterMind1: how about zimage? |
| 04:40.18 | TheMasterMind1 | lemme try |
| 04:40.31 | TheMasterMind1 | oh cool, mooview kinda does |
| 04:40.41 | TheMasterMind1 | you have to setup a stupid bookmark for it |
| 04:42.35 | TheMasterMind1 | damn |
| 04:42.43 | TheMasterMind1 | mooview's full screen thing is nice |
| 04:42.51 | TheMasterMind1 | fullscreen porn :) |
| 04:43.06 | dep | in rc1, the first lauched app isn't getting an icon in the taskbar |
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| 04:48.52 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: hows .19 |
| 04:49.52 | dep | hmmm....no, make that apps that are installed to sd when launched don't get an icon on the taskbar |
| 04:50.42 | TheMasterMind1 | dep: what did you use to install? ipkg or aqpkg |
| 04:50.59 | dep | aqpkg |
| 04:51.09 | TheMasterMind1 | ok, just restart opie |
| 04:52.02 | dep | tmm1: yup....that did it..thanks |
| 04:53.30 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: just tested an image, with low level debugging functions enavbled, and prink setup to use themm, bu tno serial messages as of yet. probably missed somethign stupid. working on it now. |
| 04:53.42 | kergoth | jeeze, i cant type |
| 04:56.38 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 05:03.24 | TheMasterMind1 | Dec 16 05:08:47 zaurus daemon.debug apmd[286]: call_proxy: Proxy has been running more than 30 seconds; killing it |
| 05:03.25 | TheMasterMind1 | ??? |
| 05:07.47 | dep | kergoth: for rc1, system info still shows version 3.0 |
| 05:10.02 | kergoth | dep: wrong. |
| 05:10.08 | kergoth | dep: it shows 3.1rc1 |
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| 05:10.59 | kergoth | dep: on my unit at lest. |
| 05:11.09 | kergoth | dep: you *flashed* oz3.1rc1? |
| 05:11.39 | dep | in System Info, version tab....I have Opie built on Dec 13 |
| 05:11.49 | dep | and the Model number shows correctly now |
| 05:13.13 | kergoth | ? |
| 05:13.15 | TheMasterMind1 | that pda icon is awesome |
| 05:13.22 | kergoth | and what OZ did you flash? |
| 05:13.43 | TheMasterMind1 | why won't my Z suspend |
| 05:13.46 | dep | yes, i flashed 3.1rc1 |
| 05:13.54 | kergoth | dep: well mine shows 3.1rc just fine. |
| 05:13.59 | kergoth | s/rc/rc1/ |
| 05:14.05 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: apmd is running? |
| 05:14.28 | dep | kergoth any other place the version number is available? |
| 05:14.30 | TheMasterMind1 | yes, i press suspend and it suspends after a while |
| 05:14.33 | TheMasterMind1 | like 30 secs |
| 05:14.34 | kergoth | dep: cat /etc/oz_version |
| 05:14.44 | kergoth | .. |
| 05:14.48 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: and? |
| 05:15.06 | TheMasterMind1 | it takes 30 seconds to suspend? |
| 05:15.17 | DaWorm | hmm...i should flash to rc1 |
| 05:15.18 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: about 3 seconds on mine |
| 05:15.19 | TheMasterMind1 | logread shows: Dec 16 05:08:47 zaurus daemon.debug apmd[286]: call_proxy: Proxy has been running more than 30 seconds; killing it |
| 05:15.25 | TheMasterMind1 | i think i should just flash |
| 05:15.30 | TheMasterMind1 | upgrading probably fucked something up |
| 05:15.41 | TheMasterMind1 | yea, whatever :) |
| 05:15.44 | nobse | TheMasterMind1: I had exactly the same problem here, a few minutes ago. |
| 05:15.49 | kergoth | if any upgrade paths are b0rked we need to fix them. |
| 05:15.58 | TheMasterMind1 | nobse: did you flash rc1 or upgrade from feed? |
| 05:16.04 | dep | says 3.0 on one line, c1 on the next line |
| 05:16.06 | nobse | TheMasterMind1: I flashed. |
| 05:16.10 | TheMasterMind1 | weird |
| 05:16.15 | TheMasterMind1 | somethings up |
| 05:16.15 | kergoth | dep: c1? what? |
| 05:16.18 | TheMasterMind1 | dunno what |
| 05:16.31 | TheMasterMind1 | dep: sounds like the file got messed up somehow |
| 05:17.01 | kergoth | oz_version contains oz3.1rc1, on a single line, one column, a single word |
| 05:17.06 | kergoth | unles you b0rked something |
| 05:17.20 | dep | i haven't touched that file |
| 05:17.35 | kergoth | well the one in the rom says oz3.1rc1 |
| 05:17.40 | kergoth | so somebody touched it on your Z |
| 05:18.54 | dep | date on the file is dec 14, 22:05 |
| 05:19.43 | kergoth | dep: oz 3.1rc1 was released dec 14th, but the one in the rom contains 3.1rc1 |
| 05:20.16 | dep | strange.... will just leave it until rc2 or final |
| 05:22.32 | kergoth | dep: odd |
| 05:23.48 | dep | opie-remote shouldn't be installed to sd, otherwise the kernel modules isn't in the correct place |
| 05:24.09 | kergoth | dep: eh? |
| 05:24.17 | kergoth | dep: ipkg-link or aqpkg links all the files into place.. |
| 05:24.45 | kergoth | dep: ipkg-link add opie-remote |
| 05:26.05 | TheMasterMind1 | opie-remote sucks |
| 05:26.06 | TheMasterMind1 | don't use it |
| 05:26.07 | dep | i installed it with aqpkg....insmod didn't find the module until i gave it the full path off the sd...regular users aren't going to know to do ipkg-link |
| 05:26.19 | *** topic/#openzaurus by TheMasterMind1 -> OpenZaurus project - http://www.openzaurus.org/ | opensource java for oz coming REAL soon | Women are hyperthreaded. | OpenZaurus 3.1 release candidate 1 is now available. Testers wanted! http://www.openzaurus.org/oz_website/content/download?release_id=3 | lirc works - ipkg install and run "zremote" from console -- don't use opie-remote! |
| 05:26.41 | kergoth | dep: aqpkg does the linking for you |
| 05:26.59 | dep | it didn't in my case |
| 05:27.28 | kergoth | dep: are you certain? the fact that insmod failed doesnt necessarily mean the linking didnt happen. maybe insmod has a bug and doesnt follow symlinks :) |
| 05:28.02 | dep | true...insmod not following links is a lot more likely |
| 05:29.38 | kergoth | dep: check.. do a find /lib/modules -name \*lirc\* |
| 05:29.51 | kergoth | dep: also, you realize the kernel module is included with lirc, not opie-remote, right? opie-remote is just a gui. |
| 05:30.50 | dep | too late...i've uninstalled it...and trying again |
| 05:30.58 | kergoth | dep: k |
| 05:31.15 | dep | the help for opie-remote says that it will install lirc, which it did. |
| 05:31.49 | TheMasterMind1 | dep: opie-remote sucks, as i've mentioned already |
| 05:31.51 | TheMasterMind1 | don't use it. |
| 05:32.01 | TheMasterMind1 | i made the lirc package so i would know |
| 05:32.11 | TheMasterMind1 | just ipkg install lirc; zremote |
| 05:32.41 | dep | tmm1: yup...about to take your advice |
| 05:39.37 | kergoth`zzz | TheMasterMind1: will let you guys know whats up tomorrow, re: 2.4.19 |
| 05:40.07 | TheMasterMind1 | sounds good |
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| 07:31.24 | kennyj | noob question: which would you guys consider more stable, 3.0 stable or 3.1RC1? |
| 07:31.42 | nobse | kennyj: 3.1rc1 |
| 07:32.16 | kennyj | thanks |
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| 07:35.20 | nobse | <0>tretkowski@rollcage[pty/s185]:~/zaurus% bk clone http://openzaurus.bkbits.net/buildroot buildroot |
| 07:35.23 | nobse | drainErrorMsg: Unexpected response: |
| 07:35.26 | nobse | <HTML><HEAD> |
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| 08:33.35 | Piete | hey all |
| 08:33.46 | Piete | 3.1rc1 rules so far :) |
| 08:33.54 | Piete | I have not found any problems :) |
| 08:34.12 | Piete | And the networking seems improved a lot too,, the usb link is much more reliable |
| 08:34.17 | Davv | :) |
| 08:34.27 | Davv | Been dead out here.. |
| 08:34.32 | Piete | Davv: don't you sleep?! |
| 08:35.10 | Davv | Piete: couple hours last night.. was out most of the day. came home a couple hours ago. |
| 08:35.30 | Piete | hehe :) |
| 08:35.37 | Piete | Davv: do you have an Nvidia carD? |
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| 08:36.35 | Davv | Piete: no.. my main desktop I have a Voodoo 5500 |
| 08:36.55 | Davv | oer Voodoo 5000 maybe that's it. |
| 08:37.13 | Piete | yo Laze :) |
| 08:37.19 | Piete | now we are all here :P |
| 08:37.32 | Piete | Daw Piete and Laze :) |
| 08:38.10 | Piete | There you go :P |
| 08:39.00 | DaVv | Laze must be an script bot now... just there to take up irc resources. |
| 08:39.31 | Laze | Yo everybody.. |
| 08:39.45 | Laze | Davv: Me taking up IRC ressources? |
| 08:40.05 | Piete | lol |
| 08:40.13 | Piete | yup, I guess hes real |
| 08:40.41 | DaVv | Laze: yeah, I figured U were using a buggy irc proggy on the Z and keyboard input was botched! |
| 08:40.42 | Laze | Laze: Give beer to coffee to Piete.. |
| 08:40.54 | Piete | At last liquid updates colors in the launcher too :D |
| 08:41.20 | Piete | It ruined the effect when you have this kewl skinned UI, and the launcher is stuck on the 'desert' colors |
| 08:41.42 | Laze | Davv: Nope, im using Trilian and the font just borks up the w and vv :-) |
| 08:42.31 | nobse | hmm... buildroot is b0rked, iptables doesn't compile |
| 08:42.40 | Piete | Laze: yea, that happens to me too in gnome terminal,, damned Anti Aliased fonts |
| 08:43.23 | Laze | Piete: Just screaaamm : BORK, BORK, BORK - it fixes it :-) |
| 08:43.37 | DaVv | Piete: xmms-e still streams mp3's fine. No issues yet with it. |
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| 08:44.28 | Piete | DaVv: tried the mplayer plugin? |
| 08:45.07 | DaVv | Piete: no. I am stubborn. I just got a chance to go on the Z today a couple hours ago.. so didn't have much time to play. |
| 08:45.34 | Piete | DaVv: anyway, when you get time, tell me what kind of speed you get :) |
| 08:45.43 | DaVv | Piete: I'm on vacation Monday and Tuesday.. so I can stay up late. 'tis 2:51am here |
| 08:45.46 | DaVv | Piete: for video? |
| 08:45.49 | Piete | yea |
| 08:54.35 | Piete | I'm out |
| 08:58.41 | DaVv | Laterz. Tired. |
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| 09:19.56 | schurig | Hi Mickey! You're making sip? Is it by intent that no config.in is in the buildroot? |
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| 10:55.54 | Laze | Sugar: give a cup of coffee |
| 10:56.04 | Laze | Sugar: thanks :-) |
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| 12:12.13 | Laze | ibot: seen kergoth |
| 12:12.14 | | kergoth <~kergoth@oemx.digi.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #zaurus, 6h 37m 9s ago, saying: 'or op2 :)'. |
| 12:13.17 | schurig | Laze: kergoth sleeps ... he should be back in the channel in about 2-3 hours |
| 12:13.55 | Laze | schurig: do you know what version/date of host AP thats used for RC1 |
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| 12:17.48 | smeeW|rk | anyone here got affix working with socket card in latest oz? |
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| 12:18.58 | KallDrexx | anyone know what needs tobe compiled into the kernel so I can mount sda1 (my compact flash reader) in linux? |
| 12:20.21 | Garf | kalldrexx: usb-storage, scsi |
| 12:20.45 | KallDrexx | arg |
| 12:20.48 | KallDrexx | it is compiled in |
| 12:21.15 | KallDrexx | tha'ts what i don't get |
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| 12:21.26 | KallDrexx | and cdrecord --scanbus also sees the cf reader |
| 12:22.09 | Garf | kalldrexx: same problem here... |
| 12:22.23 | KallDrexx | hmm |
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| 12:22.35 | KallDrexx | i had it working before i had to reinstall linux.. i just cna't remember what i did differently |
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| 12:28.06 | Garf | mine never worked with linux |
| 12:28.39 | KallDrexx | hmm |
| 12:28.43 | KallDrexx | i had it working in the past 2 distros |
| 12:28.48 | KallDrexx | so i know it's possible |
| 12:28.52 | KallDrexx | just have to remember how |
| 12:28.57 | KallDrexx | brb |
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| 12:37.02 | KallDrexx | arg |
| 12:37.15 | KallDrexx | when i modprobe usb-storage linux sees it |
| 12:37.20 | KallDrexx | so why is this not working |
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| 12:39.46 | KallDrexx | hey |
| 12:49.14 | Laze | Hey phoen][x |
| 12:50.35 | phoen][x | sounds evul. :) whats happening? |
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| 12:52.52 | lsmith | hmm 1gb microdrive 199 euros |
| 12:53.58 | phoen][x | lsmith: dont check the power consumption though |
| 12:54.20 | lsmith | yeah |
| 12:54.29 | Garf | does anyone know why nfs-mounting takes so long? |
| 12:54.36 | lsmith | but would be nice to go along with a car power adapter |
| 12:55.15 | schurig | Garf: usually because problems with dns ... check your /etc/resolv.conf |
| 12:55.18 | phoen][x | yeah lsmith |
| 12:56.20 | Garf | dns is fine.... showmount on the host also shows that zaurus mounted the volume ok, only mount-command on zaurus does not terminate |
| 12:58.01 | schurig | Garf: do you have the nfslockd running (not sure on the exact name, might rpc.lockd. On my Mandrake 8.2 I have to start /etc/init.d/nfslock, otherwise it hangs for ages. Maybe the same is true for the Zaurus ?!?! |
| 12:59.09 | phoen][x | who reads ebooks with the Z? |
| 12:59.45 | KallDrexx | arg |
| 13:00.13 | phoen][x | noone? |
| 13:00.42 | Garf | I tried - but PDF formatted are a pain (always have to scroll left/right) |
| 13:01.02 | phoen][x | yeah, thats why i want to convert them - but in which format? |
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| 13:06.38 | KallDrexx | YES |
| 13:06.46 | KallDrexx | MY CF MOUNT!!! |
| 13:06.58 | Garf | what was the problem? |
| 13:07.23 | KallDrexx | CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD wasn't set |
| 13:07.30 | KallDrexx | i never saw what it was in menuconfig |
| 13:07.53 | KallDrexx | i set this to m, made modules modules_install then i modprobed sd_mod |
| 13:08.01 | KallDrexx | then you just have to mount the special device |
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| 13:28.16 | KallDrexx | um |
| 13:28.21 | KallDrexx | why is my cf not mounting in my z? |
| 13:28.36 | KallDrexx | woot |
| 13:28.39 | KallDrexx | opie just seg faulted |
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| 13:41.25 | smeeW|rk | I think sometimes my MMC doesnt mount on boot |
| 13:42.01 | KallDrexx | well it didn't automounti t |
| 13:42.03 | KallDrexx | but then agin |
| 13:42.15 | KallDrexx | i think it was because i was in konsole in my /mnt/cf directory when i put it in |
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| 13:58.39 | schurig | kergoth: moin |
| 13:58.52 | schurig | kergoth: today I've got opie running on my hardware ... |
| 13:59.10 | kergoth | schurig: nice! |
| 13:59.52 | Garf_ | kergoth: and I did the upgrade to RC1 |
| 14:00.00 | schurig | but it's just the beginning. Now I have to do the apm stuff, wireless, backlight, touthbrush (ahem, bluetooth) and whatever else |
| 14:00.14 | kergoth | schurig: still, its good progress. glad to hear it |
| 14:00.16 | kergoth | schurig: :) |
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| 14:03.21 | lsmith | aloha kergoth |
| 14:03.35 | Dragonny | whee |
| 14:03.37 | lsmith | havent had a chance to upgrade those opie packages it seems ...? |
| 14:04.34 | kergoth | lsmith: nah fell asleep early. which is probably why i'm wide awake on a monday morning. what a trip. |
| 14:04.44 | lsmith | hrhr |
| 14:04.58 | lsmith | lifes sucks .. and when you wake up its monday |
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| 14:32.03 | Dessimat0r | So cool... XMMS performs the task of playing music with human intervention perfectly - playing a playlist, allowing me to adjust volume / track with cursor buttons, and not crashing all the time like Opie-Mediaplayer2 did. |
| 14:41.40 | Laze | Dessimat0r: Yearh is really cool - damm it would be ever more cool if i could get to open through to a MS-proxy |
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| 14:56.00 | Dessimat0r | Laze: you want streaming through a proxy? just edit the config file ;) |
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| 15:08.18 | schurig | kergoth: what does 'bbl mean? |
| 15:08.43 | kergoth | schurig: be back later |
| 15:09.20 | schurig | Ah. |
| 15:10.02 | schurig | by the way: then the buildroot-tools try to download a source with wget and one terminates with Ctrl-C, then the stamps/.<package>.source file gets still created |
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| 15:10.29 | schurig | my patcher is still not finished enought ... |
| 15:10.38 | kergoth | schurig: ah, must not be properly failing out for source |
| 15:12.02 | kergoth | hey hunger |
| 15:12.26 | Laze | Dessimat0r: How - i can't find it and the author said it was on his todo list :-( |
| 15:13.32 | Laze | Kergoth: I just made a small logo/bootscreen for the 3.1, who shall i send it to? |
| 15:13.48 | kergoth | Laze: openzaurus-devel@handhelds.org |
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| 15:16.03 | Dessimat0r | Laze: ah, perhaps it is ;) |
| 15:16.28 | Dessimat0r | Laze: I'm sure i saw a proxy thingy in the vorbis bit |
| 15:17.14 | schurig | Hey hunger, I have hunger. Can you fill my stomach? |
| 15:17.20 | Laze | Dessimat0r: Would you please look for me, my zaurus is at home and i can't test it :-) |
| 15:17.33 | Laze | Sugar: Give schurig cookie |
| 15:19.41 | schurig | kergoth: One question: you moved from qte 2.3.4-beta2 to the snapshot because of a bug. Now you've moved back to beta2. Now, what's with the bug that caused problems in opie-login and uicmoc? |
| 15:20.21 | Garf_ | I think http://openzaurus.sourceforge.net/oz_website/content/contact needs an update - irc.openprojects.org has been renamed.... |
| 15:21.29 | benmeyer | Garf_: to what? |
| 15:22.01 | kergoth | schurig: well |
| 15:22.04 | schurig | benmeyer: to irc.freenode.net |
| 15:22.13 | kergoth | schurig: moc from beta2 results in segfaults on exit in built uic and opie-login |
| 15:22.26 | kergoth | schurig: latest snapshot results in a segfault starting opie, something in QGList::append() in qt/e |
| 15:22.29 | kergoth | schurig: :) |
| 15:22.55 | schurig | kergoth: so we just put an _exit(0) into main() of uic and opie-login ... and all is well? |
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| 15:23.51 | kergoth | schurig: afaik yes. otherwise we build moc from snapshot and rest of qt/e from beta2 |
| 15:23.54 | kergoth | schurig: hehe |
| 15:25.02 | schurig | I still have the uicmoc from the snapshot, and that works fine. I won't touch it for now and concentrate on other things. |
| 15:25.18 | kergoth | cool |
| 15:25.55 | chouimat | kergoth: i'm forced to use uic from my local qt2 |
| 15:26.01 | kergoth | chouimat: yes |
| 15:26.17 | kergoth | chouimat: either that or we have to download qt/e sources twice, one for beta2, one for snapshot |
| 15:26.43 | kergoth | chouimat: or patch as schurig points out :) |
| 15:27.34 | schurig | kergoth: I think the patch is better. We have to patch opie-login anyway, you cannot download some extra qt just for this one opie app, but use the other for the rest. |
| 15:27.42 | chouimat | kergoth: I'm currently writing a lot of scripts to do some task while I wil be away |
| 15:27.42 | schurig | kergoth: ok, you could, but it's kind of messy. |
| 15:27.56 | kergoth | schurig: agreed |
| 15:28.42 | sandman_ | Whats' wrong with opie-login ? |
| 15:28.47 | schurig | kergoth: I find the building of Qt/E messy anyway, it depends tooo much for my taste on opie: patches, default config, mkipks, maybe even more. |
| 15:29.12 | schurig | kergoth: (at least I found it messy while I was only compiling qte, but not yet opie) |
| 15:30.31 | kergoth | schurig: yes. we could have the qt/e build download just those files from opie cvs, rather than depending on opie sourcetree... |
| 15:30.33 | sandman_ | schurig: If you think you found a way to fix qt/e bugs without applying patches, then go ahead .. |
| 15:30.34 | kergoth | schurig: would be cleaner |
| 15:30.50 | kergoth | sandman_: its not that we have to apply patches, its that the qt/e and opie builds are interdependent |
| 15:30.59 | sandman_ | ah ok |
| 15:31.15 | kergoth | sandman_: opie depends on qte, qte depends on opie :) though the latter is just source, where the former is a build dependency |
| 15:31.25 | sandman_ | kergoth: other option: forc warwick to apply them |
| 15:31.32 | sandman_ | :) |
| 15:32.00 | sandman_ | kergoth: but what's the deal with opie-login ? |
| 15:32.47 | schurig | sandman_: it's just that you get some errors from the buildsystem if you just enable apps upto qte, but not opie and then re-build on a fresh system. And I found it too intermingled. More a feeling, or a taste, not a hard objection. |
| 15:33.48 | sandman_ | schurig: k .. misunderstood it |
| 15:33.49 | schurig | sandman_: with Qt/E 2.3.4-beta2 applications that don't instantiation a QApplication object segfault when main() returns. Something in Qt/E is not good at housecleaning. |
| 15:34.03 | sandman_ | schurig: That's moc |
| 15:34.14 | sandman_ | schurig: It's fixed in the latest Snapshots |
| 15:34.34 | kergoth | sandman_: latest snapshots cause a segfault. |
| 15:34.40 | kergoth | sandman_: in QGList::append() on opie start |
| 15:34.42 | sandman_ | moc generates some code, that doesn't check for 0 pointer |
| 15:34.46 | kergoth | sandman_: and as such are unusable. |
| 15:34.50 | schurig | we know. But kergoth said that with the newest Snapshot opie won't work at all ... |
| 15:34.57 | sandman_ | kergoth: which date ? |
| 15:35.05 | sandman_ | kergoth: x86, z, ipaq ? |
| 15:35.08 | kergoth | sandman_: 1213, 1214 |
| 15:35.15 | kergoth | sandman_: ARM build, sharp config |
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| 15:35.31 | sandman_ | I think I tested 1211 on x86 |
| 15:35.45 | kergoth | ARM definately fails in 1213 and 1214 |
| 15:35.56 | kergoth | it delayed the oz 3.1rc1 release a couple days while we figured out wtf was going on |
| 15:36.10 | kergoth | first there was the TT define change in snapshots, then snapshots were broken and ended up reverting to beta2 anyway |
| 15:36.13 | kergoth | heh |
| 15:36.16 | sandman_ | The problem is, that you cannot patch moc in older qt/e's because the moc.y is not compilable with bison |
| 15:36.17 | schurig | task for the bored: test all snapshots from 1201 till 1216 until you find a working one .... (and don't forget to report bugs to the trolls) |
| 15:36.51 | kergoth | hehe |
| 15:37.04 | sandman_ | kergoth: That's why I sent a mail to warwick, that they should publish changelogs (or at least diffs) |
| 15:37.12 | kergoth | sandman_: yes |
| 15:37.38 | chouimat | schurig: I'm bored but not that bored |
| 15:38.05 | kergoth | tronical: you distclean'd your kernel tree? |
| 15:38.06 | schurig | kergoth: while compiling prelink: |
| 15:38.07 | schurig | cd /usr/src/ramses/oz/build/prelink; autoconf-2.5x |
| 15:38.08 | schurig | aclocal.m4:3531: error: m4_defn: undefined macro: _m4_divert_diversion |
| 15:38.11 | tronical | kergoth: yes |
| 15:38.14 | schurig | so, is my autoconf borked? |
| 15:38.16 | kergoth | tronical: make -C build/linux distclean; make; |
| 15:38.19 | kergoth | tronical: there is no other solution |
| 15:38.24 | kergoth | tronical: sounds like you're trying a gcc3 build .. |
| 15:38.27 | kergoth | tronical: right? |
| 15:38.29 | tronical | kergoth: I am :) |
| 15:38.30 | kergoth | tronical: wont work. |
| 15:38.34 | kergoth | tronical: 2.4.6 doesnt compile with gcc3. |
| 15:38.41 | kergoth | tronical: build the kernels first, with 2.95, then the rest with gcc3 |
| 15:38.48 | kergoth | tronical: ugly, but /me shrugs |
| 15:38.49 | tronical | okay, will try that. thanks! |
| 15:38.57 | kergoth | tronical: make SUBDIRS=packages/kernel; to build it alone |
| 15:38.57 | kergoth | np |
| 15:39.16 | kergoth | suppose we should add a toolchain selection for kernel builds to teh config system |
| 15:39.21 | chouimat | kergoth: make sure that 2.4.19 work with gcc3 :) |
| 15:39.27 | sandman_ | that's why don't even have a gcc3 installed ;) |
| 15:39.57 | schurig | me too, even 3.2.1 has reported errors on lkml |
| 15:40.17 | chouimat | kergoth: good idea, or if you use gcc3 make it use 2.95 for the kernel (if installed and throw and error if not) |
| 15:40.38 | kergoth | chouimat: yeah |
| 15:40.44 | kergoth | did 3.3 release yet? |
| 15:40.48 | kergoth | or did it get delayed? |
| 15:41.08 | tronical | gcc 3.3? still far away AFAIK :) |
| 15:42.00 | kergoth | tronical: rumor mill said it shouldve been released this weekend. couldve been wrong of course, thats the way of things w/ rumors :) |
| 15:43.39 | chouimat | tronical: according to http://gcc.gnu.org/develop.html#future gcc 3.3 was suposed to be released yesterday |
| 15:43.45 | schurig | kergoth: did you had time and came around and make gcc3.2 buildable on non-debian systems? |
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| 15:43.51 | tronical | ohhh, I mixed up the version numbers :) |
| 15:44.30 | kergoth | tronical: http://gcc.gnu.org/develop.html#future :) |
| 15:44.32 | chouimat | tronical: 3.2 is 3.1 with 3.3 ABI? |
| 15:45.03 | kergoth | schurig: nah, toolchain build still requires debian.. its a stupid thing, just need to do the source extraction and patching the sources w/ the debian patches manually |
| 15:45.52 | kergoth | schurig: i need to add a gcc2 toolchain build to the buildroot as well |
| 15:46.08 | kergoth | schurig: unless you want to? :P |
| 15:46.12 | chouimat | kergoth: and SDK copy? |
| 15:46.34 | kergoth | chouimat: going to fix opie buildsystem to support 'make install' first |
| 15:47.10 | tronical | chouimat: almost, yes. I think 3.3 will have another binary incompatibility in the C++ abi, but toggable via a cmdline switch (or was it just for a warning?) |
| 15:47.10 | chouimat | kergoth: something like make sdk to the buildroot would be handy :) |
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| 15:47.47 | chouimat | tronical: don't did read the gcc mailing for the last 3 months ( alot of email to read) |
| 15:48.09 | chouimat | add know somewhere |
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| 15:57.08 | LazeJanis | kergoth: Been reading through the mailling list regarding my CF D-Link 660 W problems, the only thing i really can find is the voltage problem like this: http://lists.shmoo.com/pipermail/hostap/2002-November/000469.html which was fixed in the 2002-01-03 release. What is date of the driver used in OZ3.1 RC1? |
| 15:57.36 | benmeyer | Hey kergoth: 3.1preview networksetup doesn't have icons.... again.... |
| 15:58.10 | kergoth | benmeyer: thats odd. are the files in /opt/QtPalmtop/pics/networksetup/? |
| 15:58.29 | kergoth | LazeJanis: 05something. from may. |
| 15:58.41 | LazeJanis | kergoth: k |
| 15:58.46 | kergoth | LazeJanis: did you read someone's report that they had to put a ignore vcc line in their config.opts? |
| 15:58.54 | kergoth | LazeJanis: (was on hostap list recently, a OZ user) |
| 15:59.03 | benmeyer | kergoth: yah |
| 15:59.10 | LazeJanis | kergoth: Yes. |
| 15:59.10 | kergoth | benmeyer: /me shrugs |
| 15:59.28 | kergoth | benmeyer: i think some old opie remnants from a previous build got into the image |
| 15:59.35 | benmeyer | Resource::loadPixmap(typeName) |
| 15:59.35 | kergoth | benmeyer: there are a few things showing up that have already been fixed |
| 15:59.48 | benmeyer | do I have to specificly call networksetup/typeName? |
| 15:59.49 | benmeyer | or something |
| 16:00.12 | kergoth | Resource::loadPixmap("networksetup/heh"); will load networksetup/heh.png or .whatever |
| 16:00.18 | kergoth | dont need extension, but do need dir |
| 16:00.24 | benmeyer | does? |
| 16:00.26 | benmeyer | ble |
| 16:00.28 | kergoth | default path is root of pics/ |
| 16:00.39 | benmeyer | but it wont search the app's name? |
| 16:00.53 | kergoth | didnt think so.. just check the damn code |
| 16:00.57 | kergoth | Resource is a pretty simple class :) |
| 16:01.02 | benmeyer | hehe guess I will |
| 16:05.08 | Dessimat0r | is GCC3.2 OZ3.1RC1 out yet? ;) |
| 16:05.16 | kergoth | no |
| 16:05.20 | kergoth | will be up today |
| 16:05.25 | Dessimat0r | k ;)) |
| 16:05.26 | LazeJanis | kergoth: Can't find anything in the mailling list about a OZ user - could it be the ignore - or i'm just drunk fool? |
| 16:05.37 | benmeyer | hmmm ssh says connection was refused |
| 16:05.48 | kergoth | LazeJanis: you *are* checking the right archives right? |
| 16:05.51 | kergoth | LazeJanis: they changed servers. |
| 16:05.58 | kergoth | LazeJanis: its on schmoo.com now |
| 16:06.17 | kergoth | LazeJanis: er shmoo.com |
| 16:06.26 | kergoth | "I know it's considered gauche to reply to your own question, but through trial-and-error I determined that I had the parameter just backwards. |
| 16:06.27 | LazeJanis | Kergoth: Tried http://lists.shmoo.com/pipermail/hostap/ and the old ones at http://hostap.epitest.fi/hostap/ |
| 16:06.30 | kergoth | To use the 5v card in the Zaurus, the file /etc/pcmcia/prism2.conf should contain the option "ignore_cis_vcc=1" " |
| 16:06.34 | kergoth | ^^pasted from his email |
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| 16:07.18 | LazeJanis | Kergoth: Any info on his card type? |
| 16:07.37 | kergoth | LazeJanis: zcom xi-825 afaicr |
| 16:08.05 | benmeyer | yah! |
| 16:08.13 | benmeyer | nfs mounts fast again |
| 16:08.14 | kergoth | benmeyer: ? |
| 16:08.16 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:08.27 | kergoth | it *should* be booting right now |
| 16:08.31 | kergoth | but for some reason i'm not getting any messages |
| 16:08.40 | Garf_ | benmeyer: what was the problem? (I had the same here) |
| 16:08.40 | kergoth | even with low level debugging functions enabled and used for printk.. |
| 16:09.09 | benmeyer | nfs used to take up to twenty minutes to mount |
| 16:09.14 | benmeyer | now instant |
| 16:09.38 | Garf_ | benmeyer: what did you do to fix it? |
| 16:09.46 | benmeyer | upgraded to 3.1 |
| 16:10.35 | kergoth | sandman_: nah, yesterday i said i'd have it booting, yesterday |
| 16:11.01 | kergoth | sandman_: drank too much. kernel coding while drinking is *not* as efficient as kernel coding sober |
| 16:11.06 | sandman_ | kergoth: still not booting ?? ;) |
| 16:11.07 | kergoth | sandman_: hehe |
| 16:11.13 | tronical | hehe |
| 16:11.14 | kergoth | ~lart sandman_ |
| 16:11.34 | sandman_ | ~fishslap kergoth for being drunk while coding |
| 16:11.41 | | ACTION slaps kergoth up side the head with a wet fish for being drunk while coding |
| 16:11.50 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:13.09 | LazeJanis | kergoth: been reading a little, the DCF-660W i'm using is 3.3 VDC card - so the ignore line is req. or what? |
| 16:13.17 | gortsleigh | (catching up): benmeyer & Garf_: you can make nfs mount fast by specifying '-o nolock' even with 3.0 |
| 16:13.32 | vexation | woo... oz crashed agian ;-( |
| 16:14.00 | kergoth | LazeJanis: shouldnt need it then .. but hey, worth a shot eh? |
| 16:14.02 | kergoth | vexation: ? |
| 16:14.10 | kergoth | vexation: I havent been able to crash mine since flashing 3.1 |
| 16:14.17 | vexation | kergoth: i didnt goto 3.1 yet |
| 16:14.20 | vexation | im still 3.0 |
| 16:14.25 | vexation | and i didnt use the z in like a week |
| 16:14.31 | vexation | turned it on |
| 16:14.47 | vexation | and poof.. wont go into opie and then poof kernel errors |
| 16:14.48 | vexation | and hell i didnt do anything |
| 16:14.53 | kergoth | ? |
| 16:14.55 | kergoth | kernel errors/ |
| 16:14.56 | vexation | unless some fucker was playing with it while i was gone |
| 16:14.59 | vexation | yes |
| 16:15.01 | kergoth | .. |
| 16:15.05 | kergoth | what errors? |
| 16:15.08 | kergoth | 'kernel errors' doesnt mean much |
| 16:15.09 | vexation | somthing about the screen |
| 16:15.25 | vexation | kergoth: should i goto 3.1rc1? |
| 16:15.51 | vexation | kergoth: you know when you turn off the z.. and it puts the white lights down the screen and shuts off |
| 16:15.52 | Dessimat0r | vexation: You may as well |
| 16:15.59 | kergoth | vexation: eh? |
| 16:16.04 | vexation | well it would give me an error and then the lines would come up |
| 16:16.16 | vexation | like i guess it'd turn on and turn itself right off maybe |
| 16:16.18 | vexation | beats me |
| 16:16.18 | vexation | ;-( |
| 16:16.38 | vexation | its ok, i had everything backed up so im not gonna complain |
| 16:17.15 | Dessimat0r | Maybe he means the reboot bug, where it will sometimes hang on reboot, wit hthe LCD slowly fading away |
| 16:17.29 | vexation | its ok |
| 16:17.34 | vexation | yo.. new images for 3.1? |
| 16:17.36 | vexation | help ;-p |
| 16:17.46 | kergoth | tronical: probs? |
| 16:17.51 | kergoth | tronical: or just takes too long? ;) |
| 16:17.51 | vexation | is the 64-0, whats that |
| 16:18.00 | kergoth | vexation: read |
| 16:18.05 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 16:18.08 | tronical | kergoth: takes way too long -- got to find the --compile-faster configure switch :) |
| 16:18.21 | benmeyer | Ok, fixed both WLAN bugs, the icon bug, and removed some unesary code. |
| 16:18.21 | kergoth | tronical: hehe. indeed. |
| 16:18.26 | kergoth | benmeyer: great |
| 16:18.40 | benmeyer | Unless any more bugs are found networksetup is ready for 3.1 release |
| 16:18.47 | LazeJanis | Kergoth: the openzaurus-devel@handhelds.org bounces. |
| 16:18.52 | benmeyer | and yah the dhcp client still needs to ouput info |
| 16:19.04 | kergoth | LazeJanis: er sorry, wrong addy, thats @lists.sf.net |
| 16:22.03 | chouimat | kergoth: networksetup don't build here :( |
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| 16:24.41 | AndyQ | hi |
| 16:25.09 | benmeyer | chouimat: what fails? |
| 16:27.27 | chouimat | benmeyer: the ipk is not created |
| 16:28.08 | kergoth | chouimat: does libinterfaces exist in build/qt*/lib/? |
| 16:28.34 | chouimat | kergoth: yes |
| 16:29.01 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 16:29.01 | chouimat | wtf |
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| 16:29.31 | Dessimat0r | lo AndyQ ;) |
| 16:29.31 | Dessimat0r | netsplit |
| 16:30.00 | benmeyer | chouimat: do you have any ouput on the error? |
| 16:30.10 | chouimat | benmeyer: no |
| 16:31.39 | benmeyer | hmmm |
| 16:31.44 | benmeyer | does it build the binary? |
| 16:31.48 | benmeyer | can you try to hadn build it |
| 16:31.52 | benmeyer | cvs update? |
| 16:32.24 | chouimat | benmeyer: i have the binary but no ipk |
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| 16:34.37 | chouimat | hi JasonNJ |
| 16:34.42 | JasonNJ | kergoth: I notice OZ 3.1 doesnt include the little wirless applet |
| 16:35.17 | kergoth | JasonNJ: yeah its in the feeds. trying to trim down the image a bit |
| 16:35.42 | JasonNJ | tinyx also needs an xterm |
| 16:36.09 | JasonNJ | how is the tinyx calibration being done? |
| 16:37.13 | benmeyer | How big is the image right now? |
| 16:37.27 | kergoth | benmeyer: 10mb compressed. we have 4.5 megs free approx |
| 16:37.37 | benmeyer | scratch that, what are you looking to get to I mean? |
| 16:37.37 | kergoth | JasonNJ: rxvt is in the feeds. |
| 16:37.58 | kergoth | benmeyer: nothing in particular. Simply trying to make the best use of the available space |
| 16:38.25 | JasonNJ | oh, in testing |
| 16:38.26 | JasonNJ | ? |
| 16:38.43 | kergoth | JasonNJ: testing and unstable |
| 16:38.50 | kergoth | note: |
| 16:38.53 | kergoth | 3.0 release is stable branch |
| 16:38.58 | kergoth | 3.1rc1 release is testing branch |
| 16:39.05 | kergoth | unstable branch is not tagged with a version |
| 16:39.28 | kergoth | as of 3.1 release, testing becomes untagged, testing packages move into stable, and stable is tagged with 31. |
| 16:39.31 | kergoth | 3.1 |
| 16:39.32 | benmeyer | You could probalby remove the theme manager |
| 16:39.36 | benmeyer | that is an "extra" sort |
| 16:39.42 | JasonNJ | we shoudl probably rename the packages X-something so that all the X stuff is together in the list |
| 16:39.44 | kergoth | benmeyer: we're including all the styles :) |
| 16:39.51 | JasonNJ | including tinyx and icewm |
| 16:39.54 | kergoth | benmeyer: its superfluous, but people like eye candy, what can i say |
| 16:40.15 | kergoth | JasonNJ: well, if you sort by category it should be .. |
| 16:40.18 | benmeyer | hmm I like the flat/flat combo |
| 16:40.23 | kergoth | benmeyer: me too |
| 16:40.30 | kergoth | benmeyer: i've been using flat for a while, its nice and minimal, and fast. |
| 16:40.34 | benmeyer | except the buttons have little lines on the corners |
| 16:40.50 | benmeyer | it is drawn right not pngs? |
| 16:40.50 | Laze | kergoth: couldn't you drop something like the lang. and maybe the bacup function? |
| 16:41.00 | chouimat | I want a palmos like style :) |
| 16:41.02 | sandman_ | nah .. flat looks like PPC ;) |
| 16:41.16 | benmeyer | sandman_: so? |
| 16:41.24 | benmeyer | could it be that they got that right? |
| 16:41.40 | benmeyer | the more screenspace you have the more likly the users will hit the right button |
| 16:41.44 | sandman_ | benmeyer: no .. I wouldn't have reflashed my iPAQs then :) |
| 16:41.51 | benmeyer | but able to understand what is presented to them etc |
| 16:41.55 | kergoth | Laze: users expected backup & restore from their use of the sharp rom |
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| 16:42.09 | benmeyer | well the software stinks, but the theme was a good idea in my opinion |
| 16:42.14 | benmeyer | look at palm |
| 16:42.19 | benmeyer | they have the same thing |
| 16:42.36 | sandman_ | Palm had no choice with their mono displays .. |
| 16:42.37 | benmeyer | simple is more then just neat it is fast (as kergoth pointed out a second ago) |
| 16:43.21 | sandman_ | benmeyer: Why do you thinkg there is a "windowblinds" for PPC ? |
| 16:43.31 | benmeyer | users like candy |
| 16:43.35 | sandman_ | And a million-and-one themes |
| 16:43.46 | benmeyer | but just as a default it is a good choice |
| 16:44.14 | Laze | Just a quick ? how do resize the size of a an application like in this screenshot http://www.openzaurus.org/oz_website//content/shots/opie/oz_pic_3.png ? |
| 16:44.39 | kergoth | Laze: dont use showMaximized()? |
| 16:44.52 | sandman_ | kergoth: then throw out all lineo code from the kernel ;) |
| 16:45.01 | benmeyer | in that case you would want to |
| 16:45.10 | Laze | kergoth: when running from console? |
| 16:45.31 | AndyQ | kergoth: how did you get on with the new kernel yesterday? |
| 16:45.34 | Laze | Kergoth: Ups - i meant as a user - not as a programmer. |
| 16:45.35 | kergoth | sandman_: hehe. i'm trying! |
| 16:47.38 | sandman_ | Laze: right-click on the titlebar -- this only works in qvfb on x86 |
| 16:48.14 | Laze | sandman_: okay :-) To bad it can't be done from the Zaurus.. |
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| 16:48.38 | hardwire | hi |
| 16:48.41 | kergoth | hey hardwire |
| 16:48.50 | kergoth | AndyQ: blah. it should be booting but isnt |
| 16:49.01 | hardwire | my bastard roomate is staying home |
| 16:49.03 | Laze | Btw. Don't be fooled, it the Zaurus has lot of eyecandy/rocks - its still the Zaurus from the block. |
| 16:49.06 | kergoth | AndyQ: odd thing is, i'm not even getting any output from the low level serial debugging functions (printascii) |
| 16:49.13 | hardwire | squatting on some peer to peer file program |
| 16:49.20 | hardwire | killing my much needed bandwidth |
| 16:49.22 | hardwire | bastards |
| 16:49.25 | AndyQ | kergoth: doesn't sound too good |
| 16:49.33 | kergoth | AndyQ: probably missed something simple. usually do |
| 16:49.55 | AndyQ | kergoth: yup - usually the way |
| 16:49.58 | sandman_ | kergoth: Mybe some #define changes ?? ;) |
| 16:50.03 | Laze | hardwire: Go give |
| 16:50.11 | hardwire | a? |
| 16:50.13 | hardwire | biscut? |
| 16:50.20 | Laze | hardwire: him a good kicking a tell him off! |
| 16:50.27 | hardwire | heh |
| 16:50.28 | hardwire | no |
| 16:50.33 | hardwire | I have the hub in my room |
| 16:50.42 | chouimat | ibot 200 chf to cad |
| 16:50.44 | | chouimat: wish i knew |
| 16:50.50 | AndyQ | hardwire: unplug it :) |
| 16:50.52 | chouimat | ibot change 200 chf to cad |
| 16:50.57 | hardwire | exactly :) |
| 16:52.29 | Laze | hardwire: or even bette unplug his cable and jumb on the cable end, that way he can't plug it in again. |
| 16:53.10 | kergoth | hmm |
| 16:53.23 | Laze | AndyQ: Are you the man behind the website on www.openzaurus.org |
| 16:53.30 | kergoth | Laze: that'd be noda |
| 16:53.32 | AndyQ | Laze: no - thats noda |
| 16:53.45 | Laze | ibot seen noda |
| 16:53.56 | | noda <~noda@modemcable136.245-202-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #zaurus, 1d 11h 40m 14s ago, saying: 'Whoa, look at the time... gotta sleep, promised Girl I'd call her tomorrow :)'. |
| 16:54.47 | Laze | Gotta love ibot seen function, im wondering if noda did remeber to call his Girl? |
| 16:55.01 | kergoth | oh yes, i'm sure |
| 16:57.36 | Laze | Kergoth: Just wanted to show him an idea for a site design (pretty simple), http://212.10.10.222/temp/bare2.png |
| 16:58.22 | kergoth | Laze: simple designs are often best. he'll certainly be by here sometime soon |
| 16:58.25 | kergoth | he drops in regularly |
| 17:01.59 | hschurig | chouimat: still deciding how much $$$ to spend in switzerland? :-) |
| 17:02.29 | chouimat | hschurig: was speaking to my mother |
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| 17:08.26 | testuser | yo |
| 17:17.23 | mickeyl | re |
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| 17:22.40 | hardwire | hobag kitties |
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| 17:26.09 | hardwire | blah |
| 17:26.31 | hardwire | blah blah |
| 17:26.35 | hardwire | blah blah blah |
| 17:26.37 | hardwire | blah blah |
| 17:26.38 | hardwire | blah |
| 17:26.41 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:26.43 | hardwire | there |
| 17:26.49 | hardwire | my sideways xmas blah tree for openzaurus |
| 17:26.53 | jmhodges | lol |
| 17:26.56 | hardwire | imagine the A' |
| 17:26.59 | hardwire | s sparkle |
| 17:27.05 | kergoth | wheres the star? |
| 17:27.07 | kergoth | on the top? |
| 17:27.11 | hardwire | its invisible |
| 17:27.14 | kergoth | ah! |
| 17:27.15 | hardwire | I cloaked it |
| 17:27.16 | kergoth | okay the |
| 17:27.18 | kergoth | n |
| 17:27.20 | kergoth | heheh |
| 17:27.33 | Dragonny | oookay |
| 17:31.06 | tux_mike | fucking rpm |
| 17:31.16 | tux_mike | this is a pentium 3 machine!!!! |
| 17:31.30 | hardwire | rpm is not compatable with pentium 3? |
| 17:31.36 | hardwire | I knew I hated that package system |
| 17:31.51 | tux_mike | no, it's telling me package XFree86-libs-4.2.99.2-0.20021210.0 is intended for a pentium3 architecture |
| 17:31.57 | tux_mike | and this machine is p3 |
| 17:32.18 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:32.26 | kergoth | ~fishslap tux_mike for not using debian/gentoo |
| 17:32.30 | | ACTION slaps tux_mike up side the head with a wet fish for not using debian/gentoo |
| 17:32.59 | tux_mike | ~fishslap kergoth for suggesting debian/gentoo |
| 17:33.03 | | ACTION slaps kergoth up side the head with a wet fish for suggesting debian/gentoo |
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| 17:34.16 | tux_mike | i'm not recompiling /ever/ fucking package. just the most important. and, from what everone seems to tell me, deb files have no copletely automated build process |
| 17:34.16 | hardwire | I HAVE A LAPTOP |
| 17:34.22 | tux_mike | bastard |
| 17:34.25 | hardwire | its slow.. but its mine.. and its new to me and I like it |
| 17:34.34 | kergoth | tux_mike: they tell you crap |
| 17:34.45 | kergoth | tux_mike: you can build debs easily, the tools are quite feature rich |
| 17:34.55 | hardwire | http://segfault.bogomip.com/geekout.jpg |
| 17:34.58 | hardwire | heh |
| 17:35.00 | hardwire | there it is |
| 17:35.01 | hardwire | its so cute |
| 17:35.23 | tux_mike | that's a crappy laptop |
| 17:35.37 | hardwire | your a crappy person |
| 17:35.50 | tux_mike | :P |
| 17:35.55 | hardwire | its beat to shit |
| 17:36.00 | Garf_ | is it a laptop or a cat-on-top? |
| 17:36.01 | tux_mike | thinkpad == brick |
| 17:36.01 | hardwire | but it plays divx fine |
| 17:36.04 | hardwire | and it was free |
| 17:36.11 | tux_mike | cant' beat free |
| 17:36.13 | hardwire | and so far it has yet to do anything resembling breaking |
| 17:36.20 | hardwire | sturdy little brick :) |
| 17:36.44 | hardwire | Garf_: well I cought my other, smaller, cat laying on it when I woke up |
| 17:37.04 | hardwire | 366 whopping mhz |
| 17:37.09 | hardwire | 32 whole megs of ram! |
| 17:37.09 | phoen][x | hardwire: is that cat alive? |
| 17:37.18 | hardwire | phoen][x: yes.. just sleepy |
| 17:37.33 | phoen][x | hardwire: damn i thought it would be some puppet :) |
| 17:37.40 | hardwire | no |
| 17:37.50 | phoen][x | would be a nice thing to put on top of the CRT |
| 17:37.56 | hardwire | however all my cats come with a feature |
| 17:37.58 | kergoth | hahahaha |
| 17:38.00 | kergoth | i'm a moron |
| 17:38.01 | hardwire | they are all laserg guided |
| 17:38.03 | kergoth | ~lart me |
| 17:38.12 | kergoth | i found why my 2.4.19-rmk4 wasnt booting |
| 17:38.13 | kergoth | jesus |
| 17:38.16 | kergoth | lol |
| 17:38.19 | hardwire | god stopped it? |
| 17:38.24 | kergoth | yes! |
| 17:38.24 | phoen][x | you forgot to include the rootfs? |
| 17:38.25 | hardwire | or just jesus? |
| 17:38.25 | kergoth | i hate that |
| 17:38.52 | kergoth | oh |
| 17:38.54 | kergoth | nevermind |
| 17:39.00 | kergoth | i didnt forget that stupid thing |
| 17:47.52 | mickeyl | hmm... somehow the dependencies in oz buildroot don't work right now... i want to build a fresh qte and opie, but after making the sourcetree of qte it complains because the opie qt config.h is not there. !? It doesn't make the opie sourcetree even if no .opie stamps are in stamps/ ... any idea? |
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| 17:49.52 | kergoth | mickeyl: it obtains opie sourcetree before building qte sourcetree |
| 17:50.06 | kergoth | mickeyl: wipe qt/e sourcetree dir and stamp and try again |
| 17:51.41 | mickeyl | kergoth: yeah, normally it obtains the opie sourcetree but after the last bk pull it won't... i'll wipe and rebuild |
| 17:53.15 | kergoth | hmm |
| 17:53.16 | kergoth | odd |
| 17:53.42 | Dilb | hi |
| 17:53.45 | kergoth | tronical: odd. what distro/toolchain? |
| 17:53.46 | kergoth | hey Dilb |
| 17:54.10 | testuser | yo |
| 17:54.34 | tronical | kergoth: toolchain is from oz.org/official/toolchain, the 3.2 tarball. distro is debian/sid |
| 17:56.01 | kergoth | hm, odd |
| 17:56.08 | sandman_ | tronical: #include <sys/types.h> missing ? |
| 17:57.10 | kergoth | tronical: dont have a recent autoconf installed? |
| 17:58.04 | tronical | sandman_: sys/types.h is the first #include in route.c :) |
| 17:58.11 | sandman_ | kergoth: busybox shouldn't need any autocrap |
| 17:58.16 | tronical | kergoth: 2.57 autoconf.. |
| 17:58.25 | kergoth | Sugar: get me a coffee |
| 17:59.03 | tronical | ;) |
| 17:59.07 | mickeyl | kergoth: no. same thing. after making qte sourcetree it just doesn'try to get the opie sourcetree and thus it can't find its config.h |
| 17:59.19 | mickeyl | kergoth: latest bk tree here. |
| 17:59.49 | kergoth | its not *AFTER* qt/e sourcetree, its before |
| 17:59.55 | kergoth | but okay, maybe it got b0rked |
| 18:00.33 | mickeyl | k, let's not say after qte/sourcetree, but after getting qte-beta2 from trolltech ftp |
| 18:00.35 | mickeyl | : |
| 18:00.35 | mickeyl | ) |
| 18:05.45 | kergoth | no one sees the time reset bug in 3.1rc1 right? |
| 18:05.56 | Onyx4 | morning |
| 18:06.14 | kergoth | hey Onyx4 |
| 18:06.21 | kergoth | n/m, was just confusion |
| 18:07.31 | tronical | kergoth: time reset bug? |
| 18:09.05 | phoen][x | ebooks gurus around? |
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| 18:11.19 | kergoth | tronical: for a while there was an elusive bug where time was reset to jan 1st on suspend/reboot. was a bug in atd, wasnt storing the time in the rtc |
| 18:11.31 | kergoth | tronical: we finally got rid of atd in favor of apmd w/ opiealarm |
| 18:11.42 | kergoth | tronical: and hwclock of course to set the time on shutdown/reboot |
| 18:12.25 | lsmith | hmm Package fbvncserver has been replaced by: fbvncserver |
| 18:12.32 | kergoth | ? |
| 18:12.45 | tronical | oh, I see |
| 18:13.32 | lsmith | thats part of the output i get when i do ipkg upgrade on the rc1 feed |
| 18:13.46 | benmeyer | Hmm I am getting a host name looup fialure |
| 18:14.26 | JasonNJ | kergoth: do you want me to put oz 3.1-pre on community.zaurus.com as a mirror or do you want to do it |
| 18:14.31 | benmeyer | hmm and my resolve.conf is correct |
| 18:14.33 | lsmith | Package: fbvncserver |
| 18:14.33 | lsmith | Version: 0.3-2d |
| 18:14.33 | lsmith | Depends: libc6, zlib1g, libjpeg62 |
| 18:14.33 | lsmith | Provides: fbvncserver |
| 18:14.33 | lsmith | Replaces: fbvncserver |
| 18:14.41 | benmeyer | Anyone one else haveing dns issues? |
| 18:14.58 | kergoth | lsmith: thats odd, must be a bug in the packaging, its supposed to Replaces: fbvncserver-oz, samne for Provides |
| 18:15.13 | lsmith | with rc1? .. no not really .. dns working fine |
| 18:15.48 | JasonNJ | man i gotta lotta freakin spyware on my machine |
| 18:15.51 | tronical | benmeyer: dns works fine here, too. sure you updated /etc/resolv.conf off the 127.0.0.1? |
| 18:16.08 | JasonNJ | the lavasoft ad-aware is pretty cool |
| 18:16.14 | benmeyer | tronical: yup |
| 18:16.15 | lsmith | indeed |
| 18:16.23 | JasonNJ | tronical: nice to see you back in the swing of things with konq/e |
| 18:16.40 | kergoth | JasonNJ: he's done good work on op2 recently too ;) |
| 18:16.41 | numatrix | Was anyone in here the one who submitted the note on ZSI that the proconcepts.org domain wasn't working? |
| 18:17.14 | tronical | JasonNJ: :-) |
| 18:17.21 | JasonNJ | kergoth: does OP2 run well in 2.4.6 yet? |
| 18:17.34 | lsmith | hmmm maybe i should check out op2 sometime ... xmms is working quite nicely .. |
| 18:17.34 | tronical | JasonNJ: currently spending more time hacking op2 tho, much more fun ;-) |
| 18:18.01 | lsmith | even plays my little test movie nicely and refreshes the taskbar correctly now |
| 18:18.43 | kergoth | woo |
| 18:18.57 | tronical | kergoth: wow, you got it working? |
| 18:19.03 | Dilb | tronical: did you change a lot since friday ? |
| 18:19.07 | kergoth | tronical: only basics. no pcmcia, sound, or mtd yet |
| 18:19.09 | JasonNJ | kergoth: would be nice if we could get that running stable |
| 18:19.13 | kergoth | tronical: should have the peripherals working soon |
| 18:19.15 | tronical | kergoth: awesome! |
| 18:19.31 | tronical | Dilb: only a minor fixlet IIRC |
| 18:19.32 | kergoth | tronical: .. unfortunately lots of lineo crap code is still there, but i'm going for functionality first. i'll rewrite some things later |
| 18:19.42 | kergoth | Any volunteers to write a new Z keyboard driver, using the input layer? |
| 18:19.52 | kergoth | our existing one you cant use loadkeys, its hardcoded (the mapping) |
| 18:20.01 | JasonNJ | kregoth I would enlist the familiar guys |
| 18:20.13 | JasonNJ | they want familiar on the Z as much as you want this kernel fixed |
| 18:20.16 | kergoth | JasonNJ: yeah I've been corresponding with jamey and the rest |
| 18:20.30 | kergoth | JasonNJ: though familiar on the Z doesnt really gain you anything, more options are good |
| 18:22.01 | JasonNJ | well, in reality familiar really wont be doable until the 5600 |
| 18:22.08 | kergoth | ? |
| 18:22.16 | JasonNJ | because familiar has just too much stuff in its base install |
| 18:22.21 | JasonNJ | rom space issues |
| 18:22.28 | Laze | Bye |
| 18:22.39 | kergoth | JasonNJ: um, there are 16mb flash ipaqs |
| 18:22.43 | Laze | exit |
| 18:22.45 | kergoth | JasonNJ: and familiar images for them |
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| 18:23.52 | JasonNJ | really |
| 18:24.09 | JasonNJ | I thought the 3650 was the lowest one supported |
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| 18:24.15 | JasonNJ | isnt that 32 meg |
| 18:24.17 | aman | kergoth wassup |
| 18:24.24 | kergoth | JasonNJ: familiar.handhelds.org |
| 18:24.25 | aman | JasonNJ why does zaurus.com hate me?! |
| 18:24.25 | kergoth | JasonNJ: :P |
| 18:24.30 | kergoth | aman: 2.4.19-rmk4 boots ;) |
| 18:24.30 | benmeyer | Interview with tronical: http://www.kde.org/people/tron.html |
| 18:24.33 | pb_ | JasonNJ: no, plenty of people use familiar on 36xx and even 31xx ipaqs with 16 flash / 32 RAM |
| 18:24.38 | kergoth | aman: no lcd/fb yet, and no keyboard |
| 18:24.41 | JasonNJ | aman: did you fill out the registration form |
| 18:24.49 | aman | JasonNJ i want to be able to use numbers and capital letters and have a long nick but it won't let me |
| 18:24.52 | pb_ | JasonNJ: you can just about run familiar on a 16/16 3130, but it is a squeeze. |
| 18:24.56 | numatrix | benmeyer: Do you know what's up with the major/minor change addition to the zsi admin page? |
| 18:24.59 | JasonNJ | aman: you cannot do that |
| 18:25.07 | JasonNJ | you have to use an 8 character username |
| 18:25.10 | aman | grr |
| 18:25.11 | JasonNJ | that is unix friendly |
| 18:25.16 | aman | but my nick is "TheMasterMind1" |
| 18:25.23 | kergoth | pb_: once familiar is using a autobuilder i'd like to improve the coordination of our projects |
| 18:25.27 | JasonNJ | this is because sourceforge uses unix names |
| 18:25.29 | pb_ | kergoth: that would be cool |
| 18:25.33 | aman | sourceforge lets me use "themastermind1" |
| 18:25.36 | kergoth | pb_: until then.. i dare not venture into your manual mess. no offense. :P |
| 18:25.39 | pb_ | kergoth: I need to find time to work on the debian autobuilder at handhelds.org some more |
| 18:25.47 | JasonNJ | and we have a single logon for sourcefroge, invision and the developer registration |
| 18:25.55 | JasonNJ | this is sourceforge 2.5 |
| 18:25.58 | JasonNJ | not sf.net |
| 18:26.03 | aman | blah |
| 18:26.05 | JasonNJ | we're using an older codebase |
| 18:26.08 | kergoth | pb_: i need to get around to setting one up myself, i'd prefer to use that |
| 18:26.09 | pb_ | kergoth: believe me, I would dearly love to get out of our manual mess. |
| 18:27.11 | benmeyer | numatrix: nope |
| 18:27.23 | aman | JasonNJ upgrade then |
| 18:27.32 | aman | kergoth talked to that jaz guy? |
| 18:27.48 | kergoth | aman: nope |
| 18:27.58 | numatrix | benmeyer: Does the proconcepts link work for you? I'm not sure who the person is that keeps complaining it's broken, but they must have a bad cache, or a poisoned dns cache or something since it works fine here. |
| 18:28.05 | kergoth | aman: i dunno where he was at, but i should have lcd working within an hour, and mtd as well |
| 18:28.12 | aman | kergoth sweet |
| 18:28.17 | kergoth | aman: keyboard and sound we may want to do some rewriting |
| 18:28.22 | aman | probably |
| 18:28.24 | kergoth | aman: as our current keyboard driver you cant remap with loadkeys and stuff |
| 18:28.27 | kergoth | crap |
| 18:28.28 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:28.30 | aman | ljp you gotten anywhere with sound? |
| 18:28.44 | kergoth | hm, building too many kernels at a time |
| 18:28.48 | kergoth | my box is dying |
| 18:28.48 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:29.03 | aman | seems i killed the school server while compiling oz on it |
| 18:29.11 | kergoth | shit |
| 18:29.17 | kergoth | does anyone remember when i was working on 2.5? |
| 18:29.20 | aman | yes.. |
| 18:29.23 | kergoth | i was getting garbage on the serial line |
| 18:29.27 | kergoth | and i thought it was a buffer overflow |
| 18:29.30 | kergoth | but it ended up being something else |
| 18:29.34 | aman | ibot logs |
| 18:29.36 | | http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ |
| 18:29.36 | kergoth | and i cant fucking remember what it was |
| 18:29.38 | kergoth | and i'm getting it now |
| 18:29.40 | aman | :) |
| 18:29.43 | aman | logs++ |
| 18:29.43 | kergoth | gah |
| 18:29.46 | kergoth | but *when* was it? |
| 18:29.50 | aman | good question |
| 18:29.56 | kergoth | s/r$/e/ |
| 18:29.58 | kergoth | ;) |
| 18:32.38 | Onyx4 | ok I'm checking in prboom ! finally got it all working |
| 18:32.58 | kergoth | spiffy |
| 18:33.48 | tux_mike | kergoth: do you know where uname get's is info from? |
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| 18:33.49 | Onyx4 | done |
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| 18:37.24 | numatrix | Onyx4: have you looked into doing scummvm? |
| 18:37.32 | Onyx4 | I could yeah |
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| 18:37.47 | Onyx4 | numatrix: if you fix my hw key grab for qtopia gnuboy :) |
| 18:38.33 | numatrix | Onyx4: yeah, yeah, I know. I'm pretty sure it can be done with a configuration file change. I've got the change made, I just needed to grab the new binary from that patch I sent you to test it with. And since the feeds were down at the end of last week... ;-) Enough excuses, let me try again. |
| 18:38.39 | kergoth | tux_mike: yes |
| 18:38.43 | Onyx4 | prboom compiled for OZ with gcc optimizations |
| 18:38.45 | Onyx4 | http://feed.onyx4.com/unstable/prboom_2.2.3-1_arm.ipk |
| 18:39.07 | kergoth | tux_mike: its compiled into the kernel. kernel ver specifically is UTS_RELEASE, but you can look in the code and see where it gets the rest |
| 18:39.25 | tux_mike | what about machine type? |
| 18:40.09 | kergoth | tux_mike: |
| 18:40.09 | kergoth | const char *linux_banner = |
| 18:40.09 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.10 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.16 | kergoth | ^^-there ya go |
| 18:40.19 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:40.58 | kergoth | thats the first part of it anyway, afaik |
| 18:40.59 | tux_mike | that's just kernel info, not machine info |
| 18:41.01 | kergoth | the rest .. i dunno offhand |
| 18:41.02 | kergoth | right |
| 18:41.04 | kergoth | :) |
| 18:41.11 | numatrix | Onyx4: nice; it was fast before, I'd love to see it optimized. BTW--that's with a new SDL, right? |
| 18:41.21 | Onyx4 | yes |
| 18:41.25 | Onyx4 | we have own our SDL |
| 18:41.33 | Dessimat0r | Onyx4: I'd love to see it with GCC3.2 ;) |
| 18:41.34 | Onyx4 | you can grab the copy from my feed too |
| 18:41.38 | tux_mike | i want to be able to change my machine type from i686 to pentium3 |
| 18:41.47 | numatrix | Onyx4: just fyi, NeoTron was going to introduce a patch into SDL that would automatically grab qtopia hardware keys. |
| 18:42.26 | numatrix | Onyx4: He was debating whether or not to make it automatic for any SDL app; if he decides not to in the main branch, I'd like us to consider a patch for the OZ version that would automatically make all sdl apps grab those keys. It would be exceedingly convienant. |
| 18:42.28 | Onyx4 | he will check-in into cvs? |
| 18:42.51 | Onyx4 | yes I was just thinking about that, that way I could use the hw keys for prboom |
| 18:42.52 | numatrix | Onyx4: He may have already checked it in; I'm not sure. And like I said, not sure if he was going to make it a function to be used or default in any sdl app. |
| 18:42.58 | Onyx4 | and the keys are configurable in prboom |
| 18:43.10 | numatrix | Onyx4: exactly. Yeah, I know, I've used it that way before with it. |
| 18:43.11 | aman | Onyx4 check sdl cvs logs |
| 18:43.20 | aman | Onyx4 is our sdl version from cvs? is it locked to a date? |
| 18:43.58 | numatrix | I don't see anything in the summary: http://www.libsdl.org/cvs.php |
| 18:44.07 | numatrix | he's in #zaurus though, I'll check. |
| 18:44.40 | Onyx4 | numatrix: well the other problem is that the SDL stuff when we use it with qtopia application, it seems to be slower, I think it's because it doesn't use the direct frame buffer but just qpainter |
| 18:46.05 | aman | yep |
| 18:46.12 | aman | so only use it with things that need to use it |
| 18:46.20 | aman | like mplayer doesnt' need to |
| 18:46.50 | kergoth | Onyx4: i thought neo's QDirectPainter code was in it? |
| 18:46.51 | numatrix | It would be better though if sdl was faster. |
| 18:46.57 | Onyx4 | even prboom might not profit from the SDL video, but might from a hw key grab |
| 18:46.57 | kergoth | Onyx4: QDirectPainter is nearly directly to the fb... |
| 18:47.18 | Onyx4 | last time we looked, it was just qpainter that tmm said |
| 18:47.33 | Onyx4 | cause neo only use it for audio I think, not video yet |
| 18:47.40 | Onyx4 | we also do the same so far |
| 18:48.00 | kergoth | odd |
| 18:48.02 | kergoth | talk to neo |
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| 18:48.08 | Onyx4 | yeah I wrote him an email just now |
| 18:48.08 | kergoth | it should be using QDirectPainter .. maybe he has a patch against it |
| 18:48.11 | kergoth | dood |
| 18:48.14 | kergoth | he's over in #zaurus right now |
| 18:48.15 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:48.18 | Onyx4 | ah |
| 18:49.59 | numatrix | Onyx4: I already asked him. He hasn't checked it in yet. |
| 18:50.02 | kergoth | hm, uClinux-dist is kinda spiffy. almost like a buildroot |
| 18:50.35 | Onyx4 | ok, but i'm also curious about the video thing too |
| 18:50.41 | Onyx4 | qdirectpainter vs qpainter |
| 18:50.42 | numatrix | kergoth: Too bad we don't have a good way to benchmark things; I'd very much like to do a speed comparison test between a stock sharp, a stock OZ, a gcc3 oz, and a balls to the wall gcc3 uclinux. |
| 18:50.47 | numatrix | Onyx4: yeah, see what he says |
| 18:50.54 | kergoth | numatrix: me too |
| 18:52.30 | benmeyer | ntupdate doesn't seem to be on the stock rom |
| 18:52.35 | kergoth | i know |
| 18:52.38 | kergoth | thats in the faq already |
| 18:52.39 | kergoth | hehj |
| 18:52.41 | aman | anyone know of a nice solution to realtime backups / syncing data on machines on a network? |
| 18:52.47 | aman | like for backup webserver/mailserver etc |
| 18:52.56 | aman | we want the data synced on two or more boxen |
| 18:53.03 | numatrix | nfs filesystem? |
| 18:53.36 | numatrix | little redundant, but you get what I mean. ;-) |
| 18:53.59 | kergoth | ="#adad5b"><tt>kergoth</tt></font></td><td width="100%"><tt>twofold. first, there was corruption of the console buffer by the framebuffer driver. second, it'd still overflow my buffer on the desktop when it would dump an oops, that i solved by making the console write function spin a bit to throttle the output until i get hardware flow control up and running.</tt></td></tr> |
| 18:54.05 | kergoth | aha! |
| 18:54.08 | kergoth | exactly what i was looking for |
| 18:54.10 | kergoth | there it is |
| 18:54.17 | kergoth | yay for irc logs |
| 18:54.32 | aman | indeed |
| 18:54.44 | aman | numatrix yea, but with nfs if the nfs server goes down you're screwed |
| 18:54.48 | aman | defeats the purpose |
| 18:55.03 | kergoth | ufs? rsync? rdist? |
| 18:55.26 | jmhodges | hows the release candidate holding up? |
| 18:55.27 | numatrix | kergoth: If you ever need to find anything, I'm logging everything since as far back as sept. |
| 18:55.29 | aman | what's ufs? |
| 18:55.42 | aman | rsync might work, but its not realtime.. you'd have to have a cronjob to do it every so often |
| 18:55.48 | kergoth | yep |
| 18:55.50 | aman | not exactly a secure protocol either |
| 18:55.59 | numatrix | aman: it can be |
| 18:56.06 | aman | numatrix how? |
| 18:56.12 | kergoth | aman: if the server you're putting the data on goes down, you're screwed regardless. |
| 18:56.13 | numatrix | aman: scp -- rsync runs over ssh |
| 18:56.23 | aman | numatrix oh, yea, but still not realtime |
| 18:56.38 | kergoth | aman: then use nfs. if the server drops you're fucked regardless. theres no solution for that. |
| 18:56.40 | numatrix | aman: But then you're putting the load of encrypting everything on the server as well; it slows the backdown a fair bit. |
| 18:57.00 | aman | kergoth eh/ but if you have backup services running on another box and the data is pretty much synced up on both boxen's harddrives.. |
| 18:57.51 | kergoth | Onyx4: |
| 18:57.52 | kergoth | 13:09 <@Neo|Work> kergoth: and yes, it uses QDirectPainter |
| 18:57.55 | aman | basically, some sort of network software raid |
| 18:58.08 | kergoth | aman: you want a distributed backup system |
| 18:58.10 | kergoth | aman: right? |
| 18:58.15 | aman | Onyx4 talk to neo, figure out what we should do about the painter and kes stuff |
| 18:58.18 | aman | kergoth yea |
| 18:58.27 | kergoth | aman: sdl uses qdirectpainter, not qpainter |
| 18:58.53 | aman | yea, either way |
| 18:58.55 | aman | it makes it slower |
| 18:59.07 | aman | and messes up focus and stuff |
| 18:59.12 | aman | for mplayer anyway |
| 18:59.15 | kergoth | eh? |
| 18:59.24 | kergoth | QDirectPainter is nearly direct to fb |
| 18:59.30 | aman | nearly :) |
| 18:59.31 | kergoth | talk to neo regardless |
| 18:59.39 | aman | not as good as directly direct |
| 18:59.40 | aman | heheh |
| 18:59.48 | aman | indeed, Onyx4: talk to neo :) |
| 19:00.18 | aman | kergoth whats' ufs? |
| 19:01.03 | jmhodges | 'alias usbd0 usbdnet' is what needs to go in modules.conf correct? |
| 19:01.21 | jmhodges | on my pc for usbdnet |
| 19:01.27 | jmhodges | cause im running .19 :) |
| 19:01.32 | kergoth | usbdnet sucks |
| 19:01.46 | jmhodges | no shit :) |
| 19:01.51 | kergoth | so use usbnet then |
| 19:01.57 | jmhodges | .. |
| 19:02.00 | jmhodges | i thought.. |
| 19:02.21 | kergoth | jmhodges: serach linux-usb-devel archives |
| 19:02.23 | jmhodges | i *didnt* use usbnet cause i was told it sucked *even more* |
| 19:02.27 | kergoth | jmhodges: get the patch that adds zaurus support to usbnet |
| 19:02.29 | aman | jmhodges 2.4.21pre1 has support for zaurus via usbnet |
| 19:02.30 | kergoth | jmhodges: dood |
| 19:02.33 | jmhodges | aaaah |
| 19:02.34 | kergoth | jmhodges: usbdnet PANICs boxes |
| 19:02.38 | kergoth | jmhodges: its hard to get worse than that |
| 19:02.40 | aman | kergoth .21pre1 comes patched.. or maybe its .21rc1 |
| 19:02.42 | aman | anyway |
| 19:02.43 | aman | later |
| 19:02.44 | jmhodges | hehehe true kergoth |
| 19:02.57 | jmhodges | ok so i need to give .21pre1 a go |
| 19:03.01 | jmhodges | alright later then folks |
| 19:03.16 | jmhodges | need food then a "final" which actually "show up for participation points" |
| 19:03.17 | jmhodges | later |
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| 19:06.07 | AndyQ | hi |
| 19:06.21 | kergoth | hey AndyQ |
| 19:06.54 | AndyQ | anything happening? |
| 19:07.21 | kergoth | AndyQ: 2.4.19-rmk4 boots |
| 19:07.26 | AndyQ | kergoth: woot! |
| 19:07.37 | kergoth | AndyQ: doesnt get very far.. but boots :) |
| 19:07.38 | AndyQ | kergoth: now how much work let to do to get it usable? |
| 19:07.41 | kergoth | welp |
| 19:07.45 | kergoth | keyboard driver needs rewriting |
| 19:07.46 | AndyQ | s/let/left |
| 19:07.47 | kergoth | big time |
| 19:08.03 | AndyQ | kergoth: anything you can use from the existing kernel? |
| 19:08.13 | AndyQ | kergoth: or do you want to put that as far as possible behind you? |
| 19:08.14 | kergoth | AndyQ: fair bit |
| 19:08.22 | kergoth | AndyQ: most of it will end up being crap, but i'm going for functionality first |
| 19:08.28 | kergoth | AndyQ: i'll rewrite stuff for the most part later on |
| 19:08.36 | kergoth | AndyQ: but keyboard is so horrid i wont touch it as is |
| 19:08.44 | AndyQ | kergoth: hehe - best way - get it working then tidy it up later |
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| 19:14.05 | Onyx4 | kergoth: I'm speaking with neo about gcc 3.2 build of his games, he says he's waiting on you to provide him a good sdk/toolchain for it |
| 19:14.46 | Onyx4 | with libc, kernel headers, opie/qte |
| 19:15.50 | kergoth | Onyx4: yep, i told you guys that alreayd |
| 19:15.52 | kergoth | Onyx4: :) |
| 19:16.49 | Onyx4 | kergoth: so you could package him the toolchain along with the right directories to make him build the games? and we could also put it on the web as an sdk |
| 19:17.15 | Onyx4 | but he runs debian testing, like me, so we need to fix the gcc 3.2 toolchain build |
| 19:17.26 | Onyx4 | since last time I tried it, it was failing cause not all headers were copied in place |
| 19:18.04 | kergoth | Onyx4: i know |
| 19:18.09 | kergoth | Onyx4: toolchain builds need some tweaking |
| 19:18.22 | Onyx4 | yeah, then I can also build my gcc 3.2 rom :) |
| 19:18.23 | kergoth | Onyx4: right now i'm working on compiling two kernels for two embedded devices, and doing a number of other things |
| 19:18.27 | kergoth | Onyx4: lots of shit to juggle |
| 19:18.33 | Onyx4 | heh |
| 19:18.47 | kergoth | Onyx4: 2.4.19-rmk4 is what i'm working on mainly |
| 19:18.55 | Onyx4 | yeah I think that's more urgent |
| 19:18.56 | kergoth | Onyx4: for the Z, since its booting, i want to get the lcd up asap |
| 19:18.59 | kergoth | yep |
| 19:19.19 | Onyx4 | 2.4.19 will help bring stability to this whole thing |
| 19:19.52 | kergoth | yes |
| 19:19.55 | kergoth | oz4 is going to rock. |
| 19:20.09 | lsmith | hrhr |
| 19:21.22 | lsmith | it better ... since oz3.1rc1 already 0wns |
| 19:21.33 | lsmith | ;-) |
| 19:23.00 | AndyQ | kergoth: any idea why OZ3.1 takes about 5-6 seconds before it suspends? |
| 19:23.04 | kergoth | AndyQ: yep |
| 19:23.11 | kergoth | AndyQ: sends a signal to apmd, apmd then suspends |
| 19:23.18 | kergoth | AndyQ: instead of apm talking to the kernel apm subsystem directly |
| 19:23.33 | kergoth | AndyQ: introduces added delay. we can probably reduce it some, but cant eliminate it completely in 2.4.6 |
| 19:23.42 | kergoth | AndyQ: 2.4.19 likely wont need any of these workarounds |
| 19:23.45 | AndyQ | kergoth: so does apmd only wake up to listen to signals every couple of seconds? |
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| 19:25.16 | kergoth | aha |
| 19:25.21 | kergoth | AndyQ: found the bug that causes the delay |
| 19:25.25 | kergoth | AndyQ: expect a fix shortly :) |
| 19:25.35 | kergoth | AndyQ: (i think, anyway) |
| 19:25.42 | kergoth | AndyQ: it definately introduces added delay, not sure how much |
| 19:25.53 | AndyQ | kergoth: k - you da man! |
| 19:25.54 | AndyQ | :) |
| 19:26.09 | AndyQ | kergoth: oh my god - forgot it was a monday :) |
| 19:26.18 | kergoth | and check this |
| 19:26.19 | kergoth | i woke up early |
| 19:26.23 | kergoth | and was wide awake, without coffee |
| 19:26.26 | kergoth | and wasnt late for work |
| 19:26.28 | kergoth | its scaring me |
| 19:26.30 | OutLaw | I keep getting qpe package dependency errors trying to install various pkgs...I cant find qpe in the feeds can some one point me in the right direction? |
| 19:26.32 | AndyQ | kergoth: face it - you are not well :) |
| 19:26.36 | kergoth | haha |
| 19:26.37 | kergoth | true that |
| 19:26.46 | kergoth | OutLaw: the packages you're trying to install are flawed |
| 19:26.58 | kergoth | OutLaw: they're depending on version 1.5.0 of qpe-base, instead of just depending on qpe-base |
| 19:27.06 | kergoth | OutLaw: use -force-depends and inform the authors |
| 19:27.21 | OutLaw | ok thanks |
| 19:27.59 | tronical | kergoth: looks like the sys-deps in the gcc-3.2.1 toolchain tarball on oz.org is fucked. renaming it fixed the busybox compilation trouble |
| 19:28.13 | tronical | (err, sorry, I mean sys-include directory :) |
| 19:28.20 | kergoth | tronical: hm, odd. what was it called? |
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| 19:28.58 | tronical | kergoth: 3.2/arm-linux/sys-include/ -- all the linux kernel headers |
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| 19:29.43 | kergoth | tronical: right. what was it called, and what should it be called? |
| 19:29.46 | kergoth | tronical: i'll go fix it |
| 19:29.57 | kergoth | AndyQ: want to test this apmd? |
| 19:30.05 | Dilb | re |
| 19:30.25 | AndyQ | kergoth: yes please |
| 19:30.27 | tronical | kergoth: I think the directory name as-is is fine. it just looks like the kernel headers shipped in it were broken. I wish I knew a proper fix for it though, no idea how they could mess up.. :} |
| 19:30.36 | kergoth | tronical: hmm, weird. |
| 19:30.45 | tronical | kergoth: yeah, maybe safest to ignore for now :) |
| 19:30.45 | AndyQ | kergoth: in feed? |
| 19:30.52 | kergoth | tronical: what headers did you copy over to make it build? |
| 19:30.54 | kergoth | AndyQ: unofficial |
| 19:30.58 | kergoth | AndyQ: on openzaurus.org |
| 19:31.02 | kergoth | AndyQ: not putting into feed until we test |
| 19:31.06 | AndyQ | k - trying now...... |
| 19:31.10 | OutLaw | are there any other pdf vewier besides qpdf and opera |
| 19:31.32 | kergoth | OutLaw: opie-pdf, but thats qpdf .. dunno which is newer |
| 19:31.38 | kergoth | OutLaw: ask sandman |
| 19:32.01 | tronical | kergoth: none, I removed them all. I guess that was a bad idea though, I just realize (because the wrong asm types get included now) . |
| 19:32.07 | OutLaw | kergoth would like one that supports bookmarks.:) |
| 19:32.40 | kergoth | OutLaw: ah |
| 19:32.49 | kergoth | tronical: ahh. weird. |
| 19:35.04 | AndyQ | kergoth: much better - seems to start up slightly quicker and shuts down in about 2 seconds |
| 19:35.18 | kergoth | AndyQ: sweet |
| 19:35.24 | AndyQ | kergoth: wifi card is picked up OK on resume |
| 19:35.25 | kergoth | AndyQ: it suspends and resumes fine? no hangups? |
| 19:35.37 | AndyQ | kergoth: looks pretty good - anything else I should check? |
| 19:35.48 | kergoth | AndyQ: nah, should be fine. i'll push the fix. thanks :) |
| 19:36.00 | AndyQ | kergoth: suspended and resumed about 6 times now - no problems |
| 19:36.12 | AndyQ | kergoth: np - anytime :) |
| 19:36.29 | kergoth | AndyQ: it was checking if it needed to suspend not in the main loop |
| 19:36.33 | kergoth | AndyQ: but in the main *EVENT* loop |
| 19:36.40 | AndyQ | kergoth: ahhhhhhhh |
| 19:36.51 | kergoth | AndyQ: which means, it gets hit only if there was a apm event (i.e. sleep, power low), OR every other time through the loop |
| 19:37.05 | kergoth | AndyQ: hence the added delay |
| 19:37.07 | AndyQ | kergoth: k - that would explain it then |
| 19:37.10 | kergoth | yep |
| 19:37.19 | kergoth | simple fix, move it outside the event loop |
| 19:37.35 | AndyQ | kergoth: well it works great for me at least :) |
| 19:37.39 | AndyQ | one more happy customer |
| 19:37.47 | kergoth | :) |
| 19:37.49 | AndyQ | not of course that I wasn't before - just happier |
| 19:38.04 | kergoth | that delay was definately an annoyance for users |
| 19:39.44 | AndyQ | right - got to go - dinner then christmas food shopping - won't that be fun! NOT! |
| 19:39.49 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:39.50 | kergoth | ttyl |
| 19:39.53 | AndyQ | later |
| 19:42.58 | OutLaw | kergoth can you point me to some howtos about using custome icons for custom apps? |
| 19:43.16 | kergoth | OutLaw: the images are in /opt/QtPalmtop/pics/ |
| 19:43.21 | kergoth | OutLaw: overwrite as you will :) |
| 19:43.34 | OutLaw | ahh ok thanks |
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| 19:51.05 | sandman_ | kergoth: now I know, why this kill application thing never worked: to get the PID for datebook (to send SIGKILL) TT is executing "ps h -C datebook -o pid" |
| 19:51.22 | sandman_ | doesn't work very well with bb ps .. |
| 19:51.26 | kergoth | sandman_: ahhh |
| 19:51.54 | sandman_ | It returns the header atoi ( "foobar" ) returns 0, kill ( 0 ) kills the current process |
| 19:52.00 | kergoth | shit, something is corrupting my console output |
| 19:52.03 | kergoth | sandman_: hah |
| 19:52.44 | kergoth | hmm |
| 19:52.46 | sandman_ | Hmm .. does the Sharp ROM provide a "real" ps ? |
| 19:52.55 | kergoth | wonder how i can isolate what appears to be a memory corruption problem |
| 19:53.18 | kergoth | sandman_: dunno, havent used sharp in months |
| 19:57.32 | cbok | folx |
| 19:57.41 | cbok | are you less bitchy today kg? |
| 19:57.46 | kergoth | much |
| 19:57.50 | cbok | good! |
| 19:57.50 | cbok | :) |
| 19:57.50 | kergoth | i'm in a good mood |
| 19:57.52 | kergoth | and its monday |
| 19:57.54 | cbok | hehehe. |
| 19:57.55 | kergoth | its frightening |
| 19:57.57 | cbok | so suprising.. |
| 19:58.00 | cbok | especially for a monday |
| 19:58.01 | cbok | :) |
| 19:58.21 | kergoth`lunch | cbok: i woke up early, wasnt tired, didnt need any coffee, was into work early, and have been productive. and nothing broke. |
| 19:58.28 | kergoth`lunch | cbok: not surprising, frightening |
| 19:58.30 | kergoth`lunch | :) |
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| 20:20.51 | Titeuf | hi |
| 20:20.57 | Dessimat0r | kergoth`lunch: How is OZ3.1RC1 w/ GCC3.2 coming along? ;) |
| 20:29.02 | mickeyl | Anyone else having the problem that uic segfaults on exit ? |
| 20:29.11 | kergoth`lunch | mickeyl: copy a qt2 uic for now |
| 20:29.14 | kergoth`lunch | mickeyl: into staging/bin |
| 20:29.20 | kergoth`lunch | mickeyl: its as bug in moc in qt 2.3.4-beta2 |
| 20:29.57 | mickeyl | kergoth`lunch: hmm... should we wait for TT or try to fix this? |
| 20:30.03 | kergoth`lunch | mickeyl: its fixed in new qt/e snapshots |
| 20:30.09 | kergoth`lunch | mickeyl: but new qt/e snapshots have other, worse, problems |
| 20:30.12 | kergoth`lunch | mickeyl: ;) |
| 20:30.15 | mickeyl | kergoth`lunch: :) |
| 20:30.25 | kergoth`lunch | so we wait for new snapshots to get usable again |
| 20:30.46 | kergoth`lunch | schurig has a patch for uic that makes it not segfault tho, we'll implmement that as a workaround |
| 20:31.57 | mickeyl | kergoth`lunch: another thing... why are we building qt/embedded twice? (one time for uicmoc and then the "real" thing). They differ only in the config.h. Isn't it reasonable to reuse the build? Could save us a lot of time... |
| 20:32.30 | mickeyl | kergoth`lunch: just reconfiguring and make with the changed config... |
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| 20:38.05 | kergoth`lunch | mickeyl: uicmoc is a x86 build with a different config .. if you can figure how to build them both in the same tree without any problems, do it! |
| 20:38.09 | kergoth`lunch | :) |
| 20:38.11 | kergoth`lunch | mickeyl: by all means |
| 20:39.02 | jmhodges | hola |
| 20:40.48 | mickeyl | kergoth`lunch: ouch... uicmoc is x86 not arm... how could I forget this... arw... i shouldn't try to think while having a flue |
| 20:40.51 | mickeyl | s/flue/flu |
| 20:41.36 | kergoth`lunch | mickeyl: hehe. x86 build .. it has to build libqutil and libqt static, then staticly links against them .. |
| 20:41.40 | kergoth`lunch | mickeyl: no prob |
| 20:42.34 | benmeyer | hey when you click on OK in wlan should it really stop and start the pcmcia or should it just tell the interface to restart? |
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| 20:43.36 | troffasky | if in aqpkg, I check a package > apply > reinstall and change destination from / to SDcard, will it uninstall from |
| 20:43.36 | troffasky | root and reinstall to SD? |
| 20:43.40 | kergoth`lunch | troffasky: nevermind, looks like he logged off ;) |
| 20:43.44 | kergoth`lunch | troffasky: andyq is the guy who wrote aqpkg |
| 20:43.59 | troffasky | ok |
| 20:44.15 | kergoth`lunch | troffasky: i'd just try it :) let me know if it works |
| 20:44.50 | troffasky | ok |
| 20:45.24 | schurig | kergoth`lunch: don't know if I put that uic patch into packages/uicmoc. If yes, then you should be able to undelete it (somehow) |
| 20:45.46 | kergoth`lunch | schurig: i think you did and i removed it when we went to snapshot. i'll see if i can undelete it |
| 20:46.36 | schurig | kergoth`lunch: by the way: my patcher finally can go backwords and forwards throught the stack-of-patches ... now I just need the patch-import feature and I have reached my goal (of course except the usual bugfixing) |
| 20:47.20 | kergoth`lunch | schurig: nice! :) |
| 20:47.45 | schurig | mickeyl: hey... is the packages/sip from you? |
| 20:48.12 | schurig | mickeyl: gute besserung! |
| 20:49.02 | kergoth`lunch | whats sip? |
| 20:49.44 | troffasky | kergoth`lunch: no it didn't work. df on / went down :-( |
| 20:50.22 | kergoth`lunch | troffasky: ah. report it in mantis http://opie.info/bugs/ |
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| 20:50.39 | pnis | hi |
| 20:50.48 | troffasky | ok will |
| 20:50.56 | kergoth`lunch | hey pnis |
| 20:51.02 | pnis | hi kergoth |
| 20:51.17 | pnis | what's the problem with opie-remote ? seemed to work for me yesterday |
| 20:51.25 | schurig | It's a pything bindings generator. Used for PyQt, for example. There is a packages/sip directory, but no config.in file. I was just wondering if mickeyl had forgetten it or if it is not-yet-working. |
| 20:51.27 | kergoth | pnis: use zremote |
| 20:51.33 | kergoth | schurig: ahh |
| 20:51.40 | schurig | s/pything/python/ Must be a freudian typoo |
| 20:51.52 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:52.04 | mickeyl | schurig: it's working. |
| 20:52.09 | pnis | kergoth: why is zremote better ? |
| 20:52.21 | kergoth | pnis: i dont know, i've never used lirc. just saying what i've heard |
| 20:52.22 | mickeyl | schurig: the whole python stuff is controlled in packages/python/config.in |
| 20:52.24 | pnis | he TheMasterMind1 |
| 20:52.29 | pnis | he=hi |
| 20:52.38 | pnis | kergoth: i see |
| 20:52.40 | kergoth | mickeyl: should move the python-* inside the python dir, for better organization |
| 20:52.44 | kergoth | mickeyl: bk mvdir .. |
| 20:52.46 | kergoth | mickeyl: ;) |
| 20:52.53 | kergoth | i need to do that for the toolchain builds yet |
| 20:52.53 | benmeyer | Is there anything extra that pcmcia stop/start does that ifupdown doesn't? |
| 20:53.01 | pnis | anybody who has experience with remote control with zaurus |
| 20:53.21 | kergoth | benmeyer: yes. wireless config. |
| 20:53.31 | kergoth | benmeyer: /etc/pcmcia/wireless* |
| 20:53.32 | pnis | is that correct that I have to be about 30 cm's from the TV to control it ? - that was the case |
| 20:53.34 | mickeyl | kergoth: ok, seems reasonable. will do this |
| 20:53.41 | mickeyl | schurig: danke *schief* :) |
| 20:54.03 | mickeyl | s/schief/schnief |
| 20:54.04 | pnis | hi benmeyer |
| 20:54.36 | pnis | benmeyer: have you found something portable&valuable at sharp that you can send me here ? :] |
| 20:54.40 | benmeyer | kergoth: ok so when I change my wifi stuff doing a ifdown ifup wont change anything |
| 20:54.48 | kergoth | benmeyer: yep |
| 20:54.53 | benmeyer | ok |
| 20:55.03 | kergoth | benmeyer: itd be pretty slick to get interfaces controlling wireless |
| 20:55.04 | kergoth | benmeyer: hehe |
| 20:55.16 | kergoth | benmeyer: you could write a script to do it too |
| 20:55.20 | benmeyer | I thought it did, but I will add that to my todo |
| 20:55.51 | pnis | btw is this a known problem that suspending takes about 30 seconds ? |
| 20:55.59 | pnis | or it's for me only? |
| 20:56.04 | kergoth | pnis: its about 4 seconds here |
| 20:56.07 | kergoth | pnis: but thats fixed .. |
| 20:56.12 | pnis | kergoth: ah ok |
| 20:56.13 | kergoth | pnis: uploading the package to the feed in a few :) |
| 20:56.22 | kergoth | pnis: according to andyq it reduces the delay to like 2 seconds |
| 20:56.28 | pnis | kergoth: cool |
| 20:57.18 | pnis | kergoth: what caused the delay ? |
| 20:57.26 | kergoth | pnis: bug in the code |
| 20:57.34 | pnis | kergoth: opie-remote? |
| 20:57.35 | pnis | :) |
| 20:57.38 | kergoth | pnis: caused it only to do the suspend when there was a apm event pending |
| 20:57.43 | pnis | kergoth: I see |
| 20:58.14 | pnis | kergoth: so I will have to update libqpe ? or what? |
| 20:58.54 | kergoth | ? |
| 20:58.56 | kergoth | pnis: apmd |
| 20:59.01 | kergoth | libqpe has nothing to do with power management |
| 20:59.12 | pnis | okay |
| 20:59.15 | pnis | I have no idea:) |
| 21:00.11 | kergoth | :) |
| 21:04.49 | pnis | is apmd and zremote going to be in testing ? |
| 21:04.56 | kergoth | ? |
| 21:04.59 | kergoth | zremote is in lirc |
| 21:05.01 | pnis | i mean feed |
| 21:05.01 | kergoth | if you have lirc, you have it |
| 21:05.04 | kergoth | run it from console |
| 21:05.05 | pnis | ah ok |
| 21:05.07 | pnis | cool |
| 21:05.12 | kergoth | apmd is already in testing and unstable, you just need a newer version of it |
| 21:05.18 | kergoth | but yes, it'll be in the feeds |
| 21:05.29 | pnis | yes, cool |
| 21:05.34 | pnis | which feed?:) |
| 21:05.39 | kergoth | *feeds* |
| 21:05.42 | kergoth | testing and unstable |
| 21:05.47 | pnis | ah ok |
| 21:05.53 | pnis | so stable no |
| 21:05.54 | pnis | :] |
| 21:06.15 | kergoth | nothing goes in stable until a release, unless its a critical problem or security fix |
| 21:06.16 | Garf_ | hmm, battery was at 50%, I connected power and got a "critical" warning... |
| 21:06.36 | pnis | kergoth: yes that's what I thought |
| 21:06.44 | kergoth | Garf_: yeah, thats been reported |
| 21:06.54 | Garf_ | ok |
| 21:07.18 | kergoth | Garf_: can you check to see if thats in opie's bug tracker? http://opie.info/bugs/ |
| 21:07.29 | kergoth | Garf_: it only occurs when the battery is fairly low, right? |
| 21:07.35 | kergoth | Garf_: cause mine works great at 86% atm |
| 21:08.09 | Garf_ | mine was at about 50%, and the warning came AFTER I plugged in power |
| 21:08.26 | kergoth | yes i understand |
| 21:08.36 | kergoth | but when you have 86% or higher, plugging into power doesnt get the message :) |
| 21:08.41 | kergoth | at least, in my testing |
| 21:08.44 | kergoth | havent tested below that |
| 21:10.35 | kergoth | but it definately seems bound to battery % in some way |
| 21:13.06 | Garf_ | also konqueror crashes - also reported, but without details.... (yet) |
| 21:15.48 | testuser | konq's zoom also seems to scruch text lines on top of each other when zoomed out, dont remember that happening in 3.0 |
| 21:16.02 | kergoth | testuser: konq package hasnt changed .. |
| 21:16.42 | testuser | hmm, ill have to go back and test |
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| 21:17.48 | benmeyer | http://killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=757 |
| 21:17.52 | benmeyer | Anyone else seen that? |
| 21:18.33 | benmeyer | How does it work? Did they write a better buzzer driver? |
| 21:18.51 | kergoth | benmeyer: according to ljp, you can send custom sounds using DMA |
| 21:18.57 | kergoth | benmeyer: which nobody realized |
| 21:20.19 | pnis | like on the pc speaker ? |
| 21:20.22 | pnis | that was not dma |
| 21:20.31 | pnis | but a speaker |
| 21:20.40 | kergoth | pnis: there is a pc speaker like interface, but most of it is commented out |
| 21:20.58 | pnis | kergoth: in the kernel? |
| 21:21.02 | kergoth | pnis: yes |
| 21:21.09 | pnis | kergoth: aha |
| 21:21.26 | pnis | sounds interesting |
| 21:21.40 | pnis | an oss module for the speaker |
| 21:21.57 | kergoth | there is no oss module for the speaker atm |
| 21:22.01 | kergoth | someone should write one though |
| 21:22.09 | pnis | yes that's what I mean |
| 21:22.19 | kergoth | :) |
| 21:22.23 | Garf_ | far beyond my programming capabilities :-) |
| 21:22.31 | kergoth | Garf_: learn :) |
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| 21:22.57 | pnis | we could license the technology from that guy though |
| 21:22.59 | pnis | :] |
| 21:23.01 | Garf_ | kergoth: I once did - my masterpiece was a SNMPv2 agent with plugin capability |
| 21:23.32 | pnis | kergoth: so where should one look for this stuff in the kernel in you opinion? |
| 21:24.57 | kergoth | ? |
| 21:25.06 | kergoth | pnis: i can tell you the exact filename of the current driver if need be |
| 21:25.20 | pnis | kergoth: I found it |
| 21:25.29 | pnis | hm hm it's rather long |
| 21:26.03 | pnis | kergoth: speaker driver ? |
| 21:26.17 | kergoth | pnis: drivers/char/sharp_buzzer.c is the character driver interface |
| 21:26.21 | pnis | kergoth: which is that ? I look at the dac |
| 21:26.28 | pnis | thanks |
| 21:26.34 | kergoth | pnis: arch/arm/mach-sa1100/collie_buzzer.c is the core functions |
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| 21:27.20 | pnis | kergoth: thanks |
| 21:28.10 | pnis | kergoth: is it already done mostly than ? |
| 21:28.17 | kergoth | pnis: is what done? |
| 21:28.26 | kergoth | pnis: those drivers are direct from lineo without any changes |
| 21:28.29 | kergoth | pnis: i havent done any work on it |
| 21:28.57 | pnis | kergoth: but that buzzer driver is the same as the one in drivers/sound in functionality/size no? |
| 21:29.14 | pnis | kergoth: and the one in drivers/sound is the /dev/dsp driver, is that not? |
| 21:29.24 | kergoth | pnis: ? |
| 21:29.40 | kergoth | pnis: okay look, the character interface is the only buzzer driver |
| 21:29.48 | kergoth | pnis: the tc35143af sound driver is for the MIC in only |
| 21:29.57 | kergoth | pnis: the other audio driver is for the headphone out |
| 21:33.30 | pnis | pnis: i see |
| 21:33.54 | pnis | pnis: basically it's some cut&paste and long long bugfixing than ? |
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| 21:34.03 | kergoth | pnis: the correct thing to do, would be add write() support to the tc35143af sound driver, and add buzzer support to it |
| 21:34.11 | kergoth | pnis: based on the DMA code in the character driver |
| 21:34.13 | kergoth | pnis: afaict |
| 21:34.22 | kergoth | pnis: tc35143af controls the buzzer output |
| 21:34.38 | pnis | kergoth: i see |
| 21:34.48 | Dragonny | ok, newbie question.. where do I find the scripts to make ipkg's of the sharp apps while on zaurus? |
| 21:34.48 | TheMasterMind1 | yo |
| 21:34.50 | pnis | kergoth: if I have time I might look at it, but I can't promise |
| 21:34.55 | pnis | i have to study, etc. |
| 21:35.01 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: hi |
| 21:35.02 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: how goes .19 |
| 21:35.04 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot seen jaz |
| 21:35.13 | | jaz <~toto@adsl-63-207-140-101.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #openzaurus, 6d 21h 26m 26s ago, saying: 'merci'. |
| 21:35.13 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis: sup |
| 21:35.18 | TheMasterMind1 | damn |
| 21:35.22 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot jaz |
| 21:35.23 | | i don't know, TheMasterMind1 |
| 21:35.26 | TheMasterMind1 | damn |
| 21:35.30 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: btw how does zremote work ?;) |
| 21:35.43 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis: vi /usr/bin/zremote |
| 21:35.48 | TheMasterMind1 | its a shell script |
| 21:35.52 | TheMasterMind1 | that sets up lirc |
| 21:35.57 | TheMasterMind1 | and calls zremote_gui |
| 21:36.08 | TheMasterMind1 | which uses the rc command |
| 21:37.46 | pnis | i see |
| 21:37.55 | TheMasterMind1 | yep |
| 21:38.57 | kergoth | hm, doing too many things at once, i'm losing track of them |
| 21:38.59 | kergoth | i know what i need to do |
| 21:39.10 | kergoth | split out some of these screen sessions into another screen in another terminal |
| 21:39.34 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: I have the gui, how can I press a key ? |
| 21:39.51 | TheMasterMind1 | click on one of the things in the list |
| 21:39.54 | TheMasterMind1 | that sends that signal |
| 21:40.02 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: every time i click it ? |
| 21:40.10 | TheMasterMind1 | yep |
| 21:40.14 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: I try |
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| 21:42.25 | kergoth | aha |
| 21:42.25 | kergoth | wtf |
| 21:42.30 | kergoth | my console output gets garbaged |
| 21:42.45 | kergoth | immediately after setting the registers to setup the lcd in locomo |
| 21:42.47 | kergoth | wtf? |
| 21:42.52 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: so opie-remote works, zremote does not |
| 21:43.20 | pnis | what is locomo? |
| 21:43.57 | kergoth | pnis: primary gate/array in the Zaurus |
| 21:44.11 | pnis | kergoth: aha |
| 21:44.30 | pnis | kergoth: btw is there good documentiation for the Z hardware? |
| 21:44.37 | pnis | on the sharp dev site ? |
| 21:45.07 | kergoth | pnis: some |
| 21:45.19 | kergoth | pnis: i have the Z service manual, under NDA from sharp, which helps |
| 21:45.26 | pnis | kergoth: I see |
| 21:45.28 | kergoth | pnis: but they still never released any specs on the two primary chips in the Z |
| 21:45.31 | kergoth | pnis: including the locomo |
| 21:45.37 | pnis | kergoth: heh |
| 21:46.01 | kergoth | bastards |
| 21:46.49 | pnis | kergoth: did you get that service manual for your efforts on OZ M |
| 21:46.50 | pnis | ? |
| 21:46.54 | pnis | to help in development |
| 21:47.06 | kergoth | pnis: yeah. had to sign an NDA from sharp though |
| 21:48.04 | pnis | yes, don't discluse it than :) |
| 21:48.18 | kergoth | i'm not that stupid :) |
| 21:48.19 | pnis | the code is gpl anyway, so it doesn't matter that much |
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| 21:48.30 | kergoth | this isnt code (service manual) |
| 21:48.30 | pnis | isn't taht so? |
| 21:48.36 | kergoth | its specs, fucking schematics, etc |
| 21:48.39 | pnis | :) |
| 21:48.53 | pnis | I mean you make code from it, from which one can find out what happens |
| 21:49.01 | pnis | especially if you put comments here and there |
| 21:49.05 | kergoth | ah, yeah |
| 21:49.21 | pnis | that's not that bad than |
| 21:49.49 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: why is zremote suggested instead of opie-remote? |
| 21:49.58 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: opie-remote works for me |
| 21:52.32 | JasonNJ | kergoth ntpdate needs to be part of the base install |
| 21:52.40 | JasonNJ | because the time applet depends on it |
| 21:53.05 | kergoth | JasonNJ: i know |
| 21:53.11 | kergoth | JasonNJ: already reported, already in the faq ;) |
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| 21:55.32 | pnis | i go and watch tv with the aid of the zaurus |
| 21:55.40 | JasonNJ | also while the ntpdate peice does set the time right it doesnt set the date |
| 21:55.51 | JasonNJ | thre needs to be a setting that says "get all settings from network" |
| 21:56.20 | kergoth | JasonNJ: add a bug report |
| 21:56.25 | kergoth | JasonNJ: tagged as a feature request |
| 21:56.32 | kergoth | JasonNJ: http://opie.info/bugs/ |
| 21:59.34 | numatrix | ack--what's the script to change the runlevel of something or set whether or not it's running on a certain runlevel? I can never remember... |
| 21:59.48 | kergoth | numatrix: in what distro? |
| 21:59.53 | numatrix | kergoth: rh |
| 21:59.57 | kergoth | numatrix: chkconfig |
| 22:00.08 | numatrix | kergoth: right. I'm retarded. I can ~never~ remember that. Thanks. |
| 22:00.16 | kergoth | wheeee! |
| 22:00.21 | kergoth | kernel NULL pointer dereference |
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| 22:03.50 | sandman_ | Dilb: I just commited a fix to busybox CVS to always show the header for "route" (not in the familiar ipk though...) |
| 22:04.57 | Dilb | sandman_: cool :) |
| 22:05.14 | pnis | numatrix: chkconfig |
| 22:05.27 | pnis | ah already answered |
| 22:05.37 | pnis | numatrix: hi! thanks for putting the xmms news up! |
| 22:05.44 | pnis | numatrix: on zaurus.loveslinux |
| 22:06.20 | pnis | so opie-remote is working fine |
| 22:06.25 | pnis | however it is useless |
| 22:06.26 | pnis | :) |
| 22:06.38 | pnis | I have to stand 20cm away from tv, and aim precisely |
| 22:07.03 | Laze | pnis: Any news on when streaming through xmms is comming? |
| 22:07.19 | pnis | Laze: streaming is there in xmms |
| 22:07.36 | pnis | Laze: you mean thorugh proxy for mp3? |
| 22:07.49 | pnis | Laze: a few weeks at least I guess |
| 22:08.03 | pnis | Laze: is that what you meant? |
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| 22:09.13 | Laze | pnis: Yes, sorry its hard to keep focused im playing with zaurus at the same time :-) |
| 22:10.06 | Laze | pnis: Any good ogg radio stations? |
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| 22:12.19 | pnis | Laze: like the default that's added when you press "URL" :) |
| 22:12.54 | pnis | here is my radio station playlist |
| 22:13.02 | pnis | i hope I dont get kicked out for fflooding |
| 22:13.05 | pnis | #EXTM3U |
| 22:13.06 | pnis | #EXTINF:-1,http://164.76.121.201:8000/broadband:mp3 |
| 22:13.06 | pnis | http://164.76.121.201:8000/broadband:mp3 |
| 22:13.06 | pnis | #EXTINF:-1,buffering 20/64k |
| 22:13.06 | pnis | http://208.176.62.19:8000/sep06:mp3 |
| 22:13.06 | pnis | #EXTINF:-1,buffering 0/64k |
| 22:13.08 | pnis | http://207.70.149.171:8020/:mp3 |
| 22:13.12 | pnis | #EXTINF:-1,http://195.3.87.90:8000/mix:mp3 |
| 22:13.14 | pnis | http://195.3.87.90:8000/mix:mp3 |
| 22:13.16 | pnis | #EXTINF:-1,buffering 0/64k |
| 22:13.18 | pnis | http://66.150.8.4:8000/icy_0:mp3 |
| 22:13.20 | pnis | #EXTINF:-1,BassDrive - Music Beyond - 24/7 DnB and Jungle |
| 22:13.22 | pnis | http://205.188.209.193:80/stream/1002:mp3 |
| 22:13.24 | pnis | #EXTINF:-1,Nectarine Demoscene Radio http://www.scenemusic.net |
| 22:13.26 | pnis | http://nectarine.oulu.fi:8002:mp3 |
| 22:13.28 | pnis | #EXTINF:-1,Ona Mallorca FM 99.2 |
| 22:13.30 | pnis | http://www.onamallorca.net:8000/ona.ogg |
| 22:13.32 | pnis | #EXTINF:-1,Example stream name |
| 22:13.34 | pnis | http://www.evolutionradio.org:8000/station1_48.ogg |
| 22:13.40 | Laze | Pnis: Haven't tried the new one yet - does it work with the normal sharp zaurus rom 2.38 or is it only OZ |
| 22:13.50 | pnis | Laze: only OZ I am afraid |
| 22:14.19 | Laze | pnis: DAMM! My CF card wont work steadly under OZ. |
| 22:15.19 | pnis | Laze: if you feel adventureous you could try installing all needed ipks to ram |
| 22:15.25 | pnis | to cf you probably can't |
| 22:15.54 | pnis | Laze: i don't know if that would help, but did you try oz3.1rc1? |
| 22:17.54 | Laze | pnis: It doesn't work under 3.0 or 3.1rc1 |
| 22:18.21 | pnis | Laze: that sucks |
| 22:18.26 | pnis | Laze: how come? |
| 22:20.22 | Laze | pnis: Dunno, Kergoth had an idea it might be old drivers, gonna give it another try.. |
| 22:20.42 | numatrix | pnis: Actually, someone else approved that one. I would have if I'd seen it though. :-0 |
| 22:23.31 | pnis | numatrix: you have a non working cf card too? |
| 22:23.55 | pnis | well, let's hope kergoth was right |
| 22:26.45 | numatrix | pnis: No, my cf works fine--I was talking about the xmms post. :-) |
| 22:27.55 | pnis | oh:) |
| 22:28.06 | pnis | numatrix: it works in stock rom ? |
| 22:28.15 | pnis | from ram only ? |
| 22:29.48 | numatrix | pnis: hmm? from ram only? |
| 22:30.58 | pnis | numatrix: you had to install it to ram? |
| 22:31.10 | pnis | numatrix: or how does it work? |
| 22:31.30 | testuser | is it possible to get some sort of equalization or bass boost on the zaurus? |
| 22:31.54 | testuser | seeing some controls on volume control and xmms but dont hear any difference |
| 22:32.08 | numatrix | pnis: I think I misunderstood you. I haven't installed xmms yet. |
| 22:32.11 | pnis | testuser: that is not supported on the Z - hardware wise |
| 22:32.17 | numatrix | Anyway, I gotta run; heading home from work. Long day at the office. Talk to you guys later. |
| 22:32.19 | testuser | crap |
| 22:32.33 | testuser | anyone else think the bass is a little anemic? |
| 22:33.30 | testuser | guess not |
| 22:34.19 | pnis | testuser: fine for me - I use a caramplifier and a subwoofer , and it's fine :) |
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| 22:34.39 | testuser | hmm. headphones sound a little weak for me. |
| 22:35.12 | pnis | there was a thread about this on zauruszone, and the conclusion was to get a good headphone with good bass response |
| 22:35.26 | pnis | but of course even better if you write the equalizer for xmms :) |
| 22:35.36 | testuser | yeah, tried it with good headphones.., |
| 22:36.03 | testuser | yeah, it seems like it must be possible to just tell the player to max out the bass, |
| 22:36.13 | testuser | although that may be a bit much for the ARM |
| 22:36.27 | pnis | testuser: it's not difficult, but work nonetheless ;) |
| 22:36.36 | pnis | not to resource intensive imho |
| 22:36.50 | pnis | modplayer already has resonant filtering |
| 22:36.55 | pnis | in xmms |
| 22:36.56 | kergoth | testuser: i dont think the bass/treble adjustment in opie does anything to the Z atm |
| 22:37.11 | testuser | is it physically possible though? |
| 22:37.25 | pnis | from software only imho |
| 22:37.27 | kergoth | testuser: dont know |
| 22:37.52 | kergoth | dont know if theres hardware treble/bass adjust or not, have to check |
| 22:37.59 | testuser | nothing in that secret repair manual about the hidden bass boost button? ;-) |
| 22:39.31 | chouimat | kergoth: you sell your soul for that? |
| 22:39.32 | cbok | hey now |
| 22:39.41 | dep | kergoth: can you handle another buildroot question? |
| 22:39.47 | cbok | you had a barfbag on the seatback in front of you |
| 22:40.09 | testuser | xmms seems to be stubborn about removing from playlist |
| 22:40.24 | pnis | testuser: what do you mean? |
| 22:40.34 | kergoth | dep: ask away |
| 22:40.41 | pnis | "SUB" select the songs "SUB" |
| 22:40.56 | testuser | i select a track, hit "sub", often does nothing. have to repeat a few times to remove |
| 22:41.14 | pnis | first you need to press "SUB" then select the track |
| 22:41.27 | pnis | and press SUB again |
| 22:41.32 | testuser | ah, thats weird. i why the first sub? |
| 22:41.51 | dep | home/darrell/buildroot-oz/output/staging/bin/uic passwordbase_p.ui -o passwordbase_p.h |
| 22:41.52 | dep | make[4]: *** [passwordbase_p.h] Segmentation fault |
| 22:41.57 | pnis | so that you can do it while playing a song - it won't jump in the playlist to that song |
| 22:42.00 | pnis | you select |
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| 22:42.11 | kergoth | dep: copy a qt2 uic from the desktop into output/staging/bin/ |
| 22:42.31 | dep | kergoth: ok. thanks |
| 22:42.32 | testuser | hmmmm....... |
| 22:43.30 | Dessimat0r | testuser: yeah, you have to do it multiple times ;) |
| 22:43.43 | testuser | any special packages i need for video support (anything not named xmms...........)? |
| 22:43.55 | pnis | if you have a better suggestion (other than reimplementing QListBox) do tell me |
| 22:44.26 | Dessimat0r | testuser: mplayer? |
| 22:44.41 | testuser | ill have to think about it, whether this is optimal, but it seems non-intuitive |
| 22:44.46 | testuser | no xmms |
| 22:44.51 | pnis | yes but that's xmms-e-mplayerplugin - aqpkg will fetch what you need |
| 22:45.09 | testuser | new to IRC, still have to figure quick way to put names in front of comments |
| 22:46.12 | pnis | testuser: I press tab |
| 22:46.23 | pnis | in xchat |
| 22:46.32 | testuser | doesnt play my two reference videos, seems like all plugins installed... |
| 22:46.49 | pnis | what kind of videos ? |
| 22:47.09 | pnis | if you have mplayer , and xmms-e-mplayerplugin it should work ........ . . . .. . |
| 22:47.46 | testuser | ya, got both. opie-player2 played them OK...let me check to make sure everythings up to date |
| 22:48.20 | pnis | or if you can put the movies up somewhere I can get them from, that would be good |
| 22:48.37 | testuser | got them from pocketmatrix.com |
| 22:48.47 | pnis | which are they? |
| 22:48.49 | testuser | episode 2 trailer and matric reloaded |
| 22:48.56 | testuser | ep 2 panaroma |
| 22:49.02 | pnis | matrix I tried and works for me... |
| 22:49.24 | pnis | what happens if you run xmms from console |
| 22:49.32 | pnis | what is printed on stderr and stdout ? |
| 22:49.54 | testuser | no params? |
| 22:50.07 | pnis | try in /mnt/ram or wherever |
| 22:50.12 | pnis | xmms > mlog1 2> mlog2 |
| 22:50.18 | pnis | and send me mlog1 and mlog2 |
| 22:50.20 | pnis | if you could |
| 22:51.13 | kergoth | anyone want to write me a new keyboard driver? |
| 22:51.18 | kergoth | anyone? |
| 22:51.19 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:52.07 | kergoth | ~lart cbok |
| 22:52.19 | kergoth | ~fishslap cbok for not being helpful |
| 22:52.20 | | ACTION slaps cbok up side the head with a wet fish for not being helpful |
| 22:52.24 | Titeuf | bye |
| 22:52.24 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:52.30 | cbok | ~lart |
| 22:52.36 | cbok | ~lart kergoth |
| 22:52.42 | kergoth | how appropriate |
| 22:52.46 | pnis | ibot pnis |
| 22:52.47 | | i guess pnis is an ingenious young man, respected by all mortals on earth |
| 22:52.49 | cbok | ~lart #unix faulkes |
| 22:52.53 | cbok | haha |
| 22:52.57 | cbok | what a weird deal |
| 22:53.04 | cbok | ~fishslap |
| 22:53.08 | kergoth | PicoBot: emulate kergoth |
| 22:53.10 | cbok | ~fishslap kergoth |
| 22:53.11 | | ACTION slaps kergoth up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 22:53.27 | cbok | :) |
| 22:53.28 | cbok | weird |
| 22:53.39 | kergoth | ~rlart |
| 22:53.45 | kergoth | ~rlart |
| 22:54.04 | testuser | mlog1 is blank |
| 22:54.17 | Dessimat0r | ~lart Dessimat0r |
| 22:54.24 | pnis | testuser: howabout mlog2? |
| 22:54.54 | Dessimat0r | ibot Dessimat0r |
| 22:54.56 | | somebody said dessimat0r was the overlord of the universe, ph34r him. |
| 22:55.07 | *** join/#openzaurus umopapisdn (unknown@c-fec271d5.023-4-67626715.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 22:55.12 | kergoth | hey umopapisdn |
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| 22:55.29 | Dessimat0r | ibot AndyQ |
| 22:55.30 | | Dessimat0r: are you smoking crack? |
| 22:55.36 | Dessimat0r | ibot AndyQ 0wnz |
| 22:55.38 | | wish i knew, Dessimat0r |
| 22:55.43 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 22:56.11 | testuser | pnis: get that? |
| 22:56.17 | pnis | testuser: no |
| 22:56.21 | umopapisdn | hey kergoth, just played around with the rc1.. depmod seems to be complaining alot. Is that normal? |
| 22:56.27 | pnis | testuser: how about email or dcc send ? |
| 22:56.35 | kergoth | umopapisdn: complaining about what? shouldnt be |
| 22:56.42 | testuser | k, gotta go now, ill send later on! |
| 22:56.53 | pnis | testuser: ok, bye than |
| 22:57.00 | testuser | thanks for the hekp |
| 22:57.05 | testuser | help |
| 22:57.17 | hunger | kergoth: What have I done to get bombarded by VAXens? |
| 22:57.21 | pnis | no prob |
| 22:57.23 | *** part/#openzaurus testuser (~testuser@user248.net125.va.sprint-hsd.net) |
| 22:58.05 | umopapisdn | kergoth: When booting I get a whole bunch of messages from depmod listing different functions I guess, and when I installed lirc, it said something about unresolved symbols, maybe totally unrelated but I just thought it had to do with each other. |
| 22:58.15 | kergoth | hunger: rlart function, ibot larts a random user :) |
| 22:58.15 | Garf_ | good n8! |
| 22:58.19 | pnis | umopapisdn: lirc does that, it doesn't matter |
| 22:58.27 | kergoth | umopapisdn: ah, its a lirc thing. thats odd though |
| 22:59.23 | umopapisdn | pnis: Did you get the lirc package to work ok for you? doing a "irrecord -d /dev/ircomm /etc/lircd.conf" doesn't do much for me... something else I need to do? |
| 22:59.38 | pnis | umopapisdn: i had to mknod /dev/lirc c 61 0 |
| 22:59.39 | pnis | first |
| 22:59.45 | pnis | umopapisdn: than it worked well |
| 22:59.51 | kergoth | pnis: ah, i'll add that device to oz-base |
| 22:59.52 | pnis | irrecord whatever |
| 23:00.09 | umopapisdn | pnis: ok, i'll try that. thanks. |
| 23:00.13 | pnis | kergoth: that's a good idea |
| 23:00.34 | kergoth | hmm |
| 23:00.34 | kergoth | lirc |
| 23:00.38 | kergoth | what group should own that device? |
| 23:00.43 | kergoth | input? |
| 23:00.47 | kergoth | umopapisdn: opinion? |
| 23:01.01 | pnis | kergoth: it's root:root on my debian :) |
| 23:01.13 | kergoth | pnis: i know. |
| 23:01.19 | kergoth | pnis: in OZ we're more explicit. |
| 23:01.30 | kergoth | pnis: there are a lot of groups, mostly ones i already setup in my debian box :) |
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| 23:01.36 | pnis | kergoth: ah ok |
| 23:01.37 | umopapisdn | kergoth: hmm. the group "lirc" ? :) |
| 23:01.40 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: re |
| 23:01.41 | kergoth | pnis: in order to let opie run as nonroot |
| 23:01.48 | kergoth | umopapisdn: bah |
| 23:01.50 | kergoth | umopapisdn: :) |
| 23:01.50 | pnis | kergoth: makes sense |
| 23:02.08 | TheMasterMind1 | yo |
| 23:02.08 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: how goes the kernel |
| 23:02.10 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: what is the problem with opie-remote ? |
| 23:02.10 | umopapisdn | kergoth: input makes sense though. |
| 23:02.15 | kergoth | hmm |
| 23:02.21 | kergoth | umopapisdn: looks like our ircomm is still root:root too |
| 23:02.40 | umopapisdn | Hmm... "irrecord: could not open /dev/lirc" |
| 23:02.51 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: is it better to soft reset or sysrq+s+b |
| 23:02.53 | pnis | umopapisdn: modprobe lirc_sir too |
| 23:02.57 | TheMasterMind1 | umopapisdn: hmm, look at /usr/bin/zremote |
| 23:03.00 | TheMasterMind1 | its a shell script |
| 23:03.09 | TheMasterMind1 | should have written a similar one for irrecord |
| 23:03.14 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: why is opie-remote not a good idea ? |
| 23:03.25 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis: i didn't say that, you can use it just fine |
| 23:03.27 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i'm adding lirc to the dev tarball |
| 23:03.30 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: great |
| 23:03.34 | pnis | umopapisdn: also killall lircd |
| 23:03.47 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: why is zremote better ? for being homebrew? |
| 23:04.08 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis: i don't like opie-remote personally. its very confusing and mapping keys is annoying |
| 23:04.12 | TheMasterMind1 | what you use is really up to you |
| 23:04.16 | kergoth | i hate opie-remote's interface |
| 23:04.17 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: ah, ok |
| 23:04.17 | kergoth | blech |
| 23:04.32 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: however zremote didn't work for me - no big deal |
| 23:04.36 | pnis | but it didn't |
| 23:04.37 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: boots, found the cause of the serial corruption, fixing the irq handling now |
| 23:04.45 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis: really? what wasn't working? |
| 23:04.47 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: after this, I need to fix up mtd, but thats easy cause i already did it for 2.5 |
| 23:04.58 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: then i can work on the lcd and touchscreen |
| 23:05.01 | umopapisdn | TheMasterMind1: zremote just gives me a bus error.. :( |
| 23:05.01 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: no effect, but maybe I was not aiming prcisely enough |
| 23:05.05 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis: if you have any improvments for zremote, feel free to fix :) |
| 23:05.08 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: I will check tomorrow |
| 23:05.10 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i still need a volunteer for the keyboard driver, i'd rather not work on it myself |
| 23:05.11 | TheMasterMind1 | umopapisdn: turn off irda from the irda applet |
| 23:05.11 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: :) |
| 23:05.12 | Dessimat0r | kergoth: will this mean that it won't freeze up anymore upon resume in cradle on winxp? |
| 23:05.17 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: wasnt' neale gonna do it? |
| 23:05.21 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: who knows |
| 23:05.22 | umopapisdn | TheMasterMind1: it's already off. |
| 23:05.26 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: when he comes back.... |
| 23:05.30 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: said it could be months |
| 23:05.47 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: found the bug that caused the delay when suspending btw |
| 23:05.53 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: now it suspends within 2 seconds of hitting the button |
| 23:05.57 | pnis | kergoth: what's the problwem with the keyboard driver? |
| 23:06.03 | kergoth | pnis: its absolute crap. |
| 23:06.10 | kergoth | pnis: it cant be remapped with loadkeys |
| 23:06.13 | kergoth | pnis: the key mapping is hardcoded |
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| 23:06.16 | pnis | kergoth: ah I see |
| 23:06.19 | Draggy | err, hers a quicky |
| 23:06.23 | kergoth | pnis: which is just stupid desng |
| 23:06.26 | kergoth | design |
| 23:06.31 | Draggy | can you type a / ont eh zaurus kb o.O? |
| 23:06.35 | pnis | kergoth: (c)sharp & lineo ? :) |
| 23:06.38 | umopapisdn | TheMasterMind1: eh. does zremote require opie-sh? |
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| 23:06.49 | kergoth | pnis: lineo most likely. |
| 23:07.10 | chouimat | kergoth: eta for 2.4.19? |
| 23:07.18 | kergoth | chouimat: depends |
| 23:07.19 | chouimat | :) |
| 23:07.25 | kergoth | chouimat: if i can get a volunteer for the keyboard driver.. |
| 23:07.33 | kergoth | chouimat: then the only real holdup is the audio drivers, which are ccrap as well |
| 23:07.41 | Dessimat0r | Can't wait for 2.4.19, with all its nice preemtiveness :D |
| 23:07.41 | kergoth | chouimat: lcd, touchscreen, mtd, pcmcia are all easy |
| 23:07.50 | pnis | kergoth: why are they crap ? |
| 23:08.01 | pnis | kergoth: i mean mplayer can't use it properly |
| 23:08.04 | kergoth | pnis: dont implement the full OSS api |
| 23:08.07 | kergoth | pnis: only partial |
| 23:08.11 | chouimat | kergoth: ok, will tell my "customer" not soon enough for them, so they will go on an ipaq |
| 23:08.12 | kergoth | pnis: heh |
| 23:08.13 | pnis | kergoth: ah ok |
| 23:08.19 | kergoth | chouimat: how soon do they need it? |
| 23:08.26 | chouimat | kergoth: yesterday :) |
| 23:08.30 | kergoth | hah |
| 23:08.48 | pnis | it's easy to rewrite 2.4.6 to 2.5.40, no ? :] |
| 23:08.48 | kergoth | chouimat: i'd say a week, maybe two, depending on how long it takes to do the audio drivers |
| 23:09.02 | kergoth | chouimat: audio shouldnt be too bad, because I just wrote a driver for this radio card.. its fairly fresh in my mind |
| 23:09.16 | kergoth | chouimat: but frankly i have a lot on my plate, hard to find time |
| 23:09.23 | kergoth | chouimat: feel like writing a keyboard driver? :P |
| 23:09.48 | chouimat | kergoth: just send me your current patch, I will check the keyboard, before leaving |
| 23:10.04 | kergoth | chouimat: keyboard driver is complete crap, needs a full rewrite |
| 23:10.09 | kergoth | chouimat: when do you take off? |
| 23:10.52 | pnis | kergoth: if nobody does, I might try looking at the buzzer - although I have exam period now/soon, so it won't be fast |
| 23:11.21 | kergoth | pnis: k |
| 23:11.38 | chouimat | my plane is thursday at 19h30 but I must go to montreal before (so I will leave thursday at 9h00am) |
| 23:13.09 | pnis | chouimat ipaq's linux is more stable than the Z's? |
| 23:13.20 | pnis | chouimat or it's the wince |
| 23:13.35 | chouimat | pnis: don't know don't have an ipaq yet |
| 23:13.50 | chouimat | kergoth where is the keyboard driver |
| 23:13.56 | pnis | chouimat: I hear there are problems with suspend still - not for evrybody though I am sure |
| 23:14.38 | pnis | ok, I have to go to sleep |
| 23:14.42 | pnis | good night all |
| 23:15.05 | kergoth | chouimat: drivers/char/ in 2.4.6 sources |
| 23:15.11 | kergoth | chouimat: s/sources/dir/ |
| 23:15.23 | Laze | How do you do ipconfig /refresh in linux on the zaurus? |
| 23:15.23 | chouimat | kergoth: #define festival in those files |
| 23:15.39 | kergoth | chouimat: yes |
| 23:15.52 | kergoth | chouimat: they split part of it out into a core file which is used for both collie and iris |
| 23:15.56 | kergoth | chouimat: hard to follow the flow |
| 23:16.06 | kergoth | chouimat: and the hardcoded keymap is crap |
| 23:16.58 | umopapisdn | Anyone here managed to use lirc properly on the Z? |
| 23:16.58 | chouimat | hmmm |
| 23:17.21 | kergoth | chouimat: imho we should drop it and write a new driver for the input layer |
| 23:18.20 | Laze | kergoth: any idea why iwconfig won't let me change the mode on the CF network card? |
| 23:18.50 | kergoth | Laze: whats the error? |
| 23:19.00 | chouimat | kergoth: maybe that will easier to port it to 2.6 |
| 23:19.09 | kergoth | chouimat: yep |
| 23:19.14 | kergoth | chouimat: part of why i want to do that |
| 23:20.05 | Laze | Kergoth: Set failed on device Wlan0; operation not supported. |
| 23:20.39 | kergoth | Laze: hmm |
| 23:20.45 | kergoth | Laze: whats the iwconfig cmd you're using? |
| 23:20.58 | Laze | Laze: iwconfig wlan mode auto |
| 23:21.04 | chouimat | kergoth: does opie support it? |
| 23:21.23 | Laze | Kergoth: Sorry, talking to myself :-) iwconfig wlan mode auto |
| 23:21.24 | kergoth | chouimat: support what? |
| 23:21.40 | chouimat | input layer |
| 23:21.52 | kergoth | chouimat: schurig has a qt/e patch to support input layer for touchscreen. dunno aobut keyboard |
| 23:21.57 | kergoth | Laze: 'auto'? |
| 23:22.23 | kergoth | Laze: you need to set the mode.. i forget what to. not Master .. |
| 23:22.52 | umopapisdn | kergoth: What's the resolution of the battery readings with the kernel battery patch? |
| 23:23.07 | kergoth | umopapisdn: approx +- 5% |
| 23:23.09 | kergoth | umopapisdn: afaicr |
| 23:23.13 | kergoth | umopapisdn: ask tik if he drops in |
| 23:23.15 | chouimat | kergoth: last time I saw so ugly code was when I was porting a very old c++ app. the author load all the database into memory and use it like a rolodex .... |
| 23:23.23 | kergoth | chouimat: eww |
| 23:23.27 | umopapisdn | kergoth: cool. well, that's alot nicer than before. :) |
| 23:23.59 | chouimat | kergoth: it's a billing app |
| 23:24.23 | kergoth | umopapisdn: tik is about to send me a patch that will average the voltage readings over time, to reduce the fluctuations |
| 23:24.27 | kergoth | umopapisdn: so it shouldnt jump around much then |
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| 23:25.32 | chouimat | kergoth: what it's that file: patch-2.4.7-rmk3-np1-embedix? |
| 23:26.09 | kergoth | chouimat: ? |
| 23:26.29 | chouimat | kergoth: what patch I need? |
| 23:27.42 | kergoth | chouimat: patch for ..? |
| 23:27.57 | kergoth | chouimat: existing keybaoard drivers are in the 2.4.6 and the 2.4.7 embedix patches |
| 23:28.06 | kergoth | chouimat: 2.4.19-rmk4 work doesnt have any keyboard drivers yet :) |
| 23:28.26 | Laze | Kergoth: Tried setting it to managed - same error happens. |
| 23:28.38 | kergoth | Laze: Managed? hmm, odd |
| 23:29.08 | kergoth | Laze: you on a recetn firmware with that thing? |
| 23:29.33 | Laze | kergoth: Dunno, how do i check? |
| 23:29.33 | chouimat | kergoth: where are those patche |
| 23:29.57 | kergoth | chouimat: sources/ in buildroot |
| 23:30.02 | kergoth | chouimat: it downloads em |
| 23:30.04 | chouimat | 2.4.19? |
| 23:30.05 | kergoth | Laze: dunno :) |
| 23:30.22 | kergoth | chouimat: 2.4.19 Z patch isnt avail yet, i'll push it into the 2.4 bk tree |
| 23:30.41 | phpCure | what're we talking about |
| 23:30.49 | chouimat | kergoth: the one you use as base |
| 23:31.30 | kergoth | chouimat: ah |
| 23:31.32 | kergoth | chouimat: 2.4.19-rmk4 |
| 23:31.41 | kergoth | chouimat: -rmk4 patch is on ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux |
| 23:33.57 | chouimat | kergoth: can you send me your what you have done ? |
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| 23:34.41 | kergoth | chouimat: you cant use it on your z unless you have a serial cable.. lcd doesnt turn on :) |
| 23:34.44 | kergoth | chouimat: but yeah |
| 23:34.48 | ljp_work | ugh |
| 23:34.49 | TheMasterMind1 | bk it |
| 23:34.52 | TheMasterMind1 | ljp_work: ! |
| 23:35.05 | kergoth | yeah, ill push into the repos |
| 23:35.06 | ljp_work | first chance I've had to relax all frickin day long |
| 23:35.08 | chouimat | kergoth: chouimat@videotron.ca |
| 23:35.11 | TheMasterMind1 | ljp_work: you gotten anywhere with that audio driver? intersting in adding audio support to our .19 for the Z? |
| 23:35.13 | kergoth | chouimat: k |
| 23:35.25 | kergoth | ljp_work: it boots :) |
| 23:35.36 | ljp_work | hmm |
| 23:35.54 | kergoth | i was a day late tho, i said i'd have it booting yesterday |
| 23:35.57 | ljp_work | hey booting is good! ;) |
| 23:36.25 | kergoth | ljp_work: yep |
| 23:37.38 | cbok | kergoth: aren't you at work kinda late? |
| 23:37.41 | Draggy | is the ftp login different in oz then sharp rom? |
| 23:37.52 | kergoth | cbok: nah, i dont get off work for naother 20 minutes |
| 23:37.55 | kergoth | Draggy: password is rootme |
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| 23:38.33 | Draggy | hmm, right still not connecting, gah |
| 23:38.55 | ljp_work | yes, I am working a bit late. damn busiest day of the year for me |
| 23:39.25 | ljp_work | I wrote one line of code since I got here |
| 23:39.53 | ljp_work | I am working on adding unicode filename support for advancedfm |
| 23:40.13 | ljp_work | damn qt directory functions ignore any extended character filenames |
| 23:40.20 | Draggy | oh, and any particular reason OZ seems to constantly be using up cpu idle time? |
| 23:40.30 | kergoth | Draggy: so does sharp. |
| 23:40.30 | ljp_work | have to rigamaroo around to get it working |
| 23:40.36 | kergoth | Draggy: its for power management, ignore it |
| 23:40.41 | kergoth | Draggy: you just didnt notice it in sharp |
| 23:41.02 | Draggy | hmm, perhaps, I guess, the sys nfo app was reporting no usage |
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| 23:41.24 | kergoth | Draggy: as i said, you didnt notice it, or it hid it from you |
| 23:41.28 | kergoth | Draggy: was the same |
| 23:41.33 | Draggy | anywya, more pressing is why I cant connect to it, now I've flashed it fine.. |
| 23:41.34 | kergoth | ljp_work: fixed the mtdblock6 display yet? :P |
| 23:41.39 | ljp_work | nope.. |
| 23:41.48 | ljp_work | will do soone. |
| 23:42.03 | kergoth | :) |
| 23:42.35 | Laze | Kergoth: My CF card is really action strange under 3.1RC1 - everytime its get up and run, its drops out. |
| 23:42.50 | kergoth | Laze: wireless or IDE? |
| 23:42.55 | chouimat | kergoth: what are : CONFIG_COLLIE_TS, CONFIG_COLLIE_TR0,CONFIG_COLLIE_TR1, CONFIG_COLLIE_DEV |
| 23:42.58 | ljp_work | I'll try to fix that tonight |
| 23:43.00 | kergoth | chouimat: ignore em |
| 23:43.07 | kergoth | chouimat: for developer units that never left sharp/lineo |
| 23:43.23 | Draggy | and I am using latest beta of qtopia desktop, anything else I have to do to get connectin working?.. |
| 23:43.28 | Laze | kergoth: Wireless. |
| 23:43.29 | kergoth | Draggy: read the faq |
| 23:43.40 | kergoth | Laze: well, i'll see if i can get those new drivers up today or tomorrow |
| 23:44.21 | Laze | Sugar: give 10 beers to kergoth |
| 23:44.37 | randy | damhn, i should weigh 800 pounds by now... |
| 23:44.47 | randy | hi all! |
| 23:44.59 | Laze | kergoth: Looking forward to it, should i get them from the feed. |
| 23:45.02 | Laze | randy: hi.. |
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| 23:47.38 | chouimat | arrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111 |
| 23:47.51 | Laze | Kergoth: The strange this is everytime i reboot or reinsert the card, it goes back to mode=master and essid=test. |
| 23:48.30 | kergoth | chouimat: ? |
| 23:48.40 | kergoth | Laze: check your settings in wireless.opts |
| 23:49.11 | chouimat | kergoth: who is the motherfucker who wrote that piece of crap |
| 23:49.20 | kergoth | chouimat: lol. see what i'm saying? |
| 23:49.41 | chouimat | kergoth: lineo == crap |
| 23:49.52 | kergoth | chouimat: that statement definately returns TRUE |
| 23:49.53 | kergoth | chouimat: ;) |
| 23:49.59 | Dessimat0r | How is OZ3.1RC1 w/ GCC3.2 coming along? |
| 23:50.17 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: build died, just started it agian. its chugging away |
| 23:50.24 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 23:50.49 | Dessimat0r | its good that its being built, I'll flash it once its done ;) |
| 23:50.55 | *** part/#openzaurus Laze (~Laze@212.10.10.204) |
| 23:51.22 | randy | bbl. gotta go play with the tivo |
| 23:51.28 | *** part/#openzaurus randy (~randy@adsl-208-191-211-44.dsl.kscymo.swbell.net) |
| 23:53.42 | ljp_work | once I get home, I am going to grab a rum and coke, and do some code! |
| 23:55.44 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 23:56.01 | chouimat | ljp_work: :) |
| 23:56.20 | ljp_work | once I pet the cat, of course |
| 23:56.52 | chouimat | ibot: lart lineo for releasing crappy code |
| 23:57.05 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:57.07 | ljp_work | hahaha |
| 23:57.13 | kergoth | thats no appropriate |
| 23:57.16 | kergoth | s/no/so/ |
| 23:57.21 | chouimat | ibot: lart lineo for releasing crappy code |
| 23:57.49 | ljp_work | fastolfe told me he was going to be back online.. never was |
| 23:58.01 | ljp_work | damn it, we need that guy |
| 23:58.18 | chouimat | ljp_work: we need the docs |
| 23:58.20 | ljp_work | frickin bare footed french geek! |
| 23:58.33 | TheMasterMind1 | what's he do |
| 23:58.44 | BZFlag | ljp_work: rumor is that fastolfe is touring playing billards now. |
| 23:58.49 | kergoth | BZFlag: really? |
| 23:58.56 | ljp_work | he's a kernel code guy, really good with c. wrote fbvncserver |
| 23:59.00 | BZFlag | yep. living off it from what I hear. |
| 23:59.05 | kergoth | hah, nice |
| 23:59.06 | ljp_work | hehe billards>? |
| 23:59.22 | ljp_work | wow.. probably bare footed, no doubt |
| 23:59.27 | BZFlag | no doubt. |
| 23:59.59 | ljp_work | he told me he was trying to get a computer tech company going |
