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| 00:28.18 | beattie | TheMasterMind1: I'm going to be out of town till next Friday, I hope you guys leave something for me to do in the kernel :) |
| 00:29.20 | Dessimat0r | beattie: you can be the one who kicks it ;) |
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| 00:37.25 | beattie | I'll just have to make some work |
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| 00:42.54 | JasonNJ | hey Kergoth, time to turn the computer off and go out and get a beer... |
| 00:43.48 | beattie | maybe I bring uyp 2.4.20 :) |
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| 00:46.25 | kergoth`bbl | JasonNJ: yes, indeed. that thread on z-g was funny as hell |
| 00:46.41 | ljp | whats turning off the computer?! |
| 00:46.47 | ljp | you can do that? |
| 00:47.05 | JasonNJ | yeah people are getting punchy on a friday |
| 00:47.14 | jonezr | bitkeeper sucks |
| 00:47.18 | jonezr | I hate that shit |
| 00:47.26 | ljp | I just got a new used monitor! woot! |
| 00:47.35 | ljp | no more 640 here.. |
| 00:47.46 | badl | 640 wtf! |
| 00:47.51 | JasonNJ | kergoth: its going to be a lot more fun when we kill the sourceforge lists next week |
| 00:47.53 | ljp | vga |
| 00:48.03 | kergoth`bbl | JasonNJ: hehe |
| 00:48.06 | ljp | now at a pleasant 1280 |
| 00:48.10 | badl | hell.... 16x12 here ;) |
| 00:48.31 | ljp | ya well, it only cost $85 |
| 00:48.38 | ljp | 17" |
| 00:48.48 | JasonNJ | actually I am not exactly sure if you can actually decommssion a list on SF.NET |
| 00:49.05 | ljp | is there a ml on zaurus.com? |
| 00:49.10 | JasonNJ | VA isnt exactly cooperating with Sharp these days |
| 00:49.17 | JasonNJ | ljp: we will be starting them shortly. |
| 00:49.22 | ljp | k |
| 00:50.03 | ljp | man, this is like I got new glasses! |
| 00:50.31 | JasonNJ | has anyone gotten GPE running on OZ yet? |
| 00:50.41 | ljp | I was goping to try this weekend |
| 00:50.58 | ljp | there's not a set way to compile it, apparently |
| 00:51.10 | ljp | might have to fix some ipaq code also |
| 00:51.23 | JasonNJ | I get the general feeling GPE is WAY behind OPIE in maturity |
| 00:51.37 | ljp | if I do, I'll submit patches, if I can stand gtk |
| 00:51.44 | ljp | yes, it is |
| 00:52.01 | ljp | but opie had a big head start/boost |
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| 00:53.11 | ibz | ehlo |
| 00:53.14 | ibz | what's new? |
| 00:53.25 | ljp | this used monitor! |
| 00:53.34 | ibz | ha |
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| 00:57.59 | sandman_ | ljp: http://softforge.de/snapshot.png <-- first screenshot of the new appskey |
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| 00:59.04 | sandman_ | n8 |
| 00:59.16 | JasonNJ | yo Riker-san. |
| 01:01.03 | JasonNJ | hey, we need a christmas theme for OZ. |
| 01:01.10 | ljp | nice, sandman |
| 01:01.11 | JasonNJ | like pingizauru in a santa hat |
| 01:01.29 | ljp | how about the grinch instead? |
| 01:01.47 | JasonNJ | a grinch Today screen would be cool. |
| 01:01.54 | JasonNJ | we need a way to get themes on the today |
| 01:02.30 | JasonNJ | Mr. Hankey! |
| 01:03.58 | JasonNJ | hidey ho |
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| 01:10.27 | PenguinX | does anyone have urls to faqs on running picogui on an sl-5000d |
| 01:10.31 | PenguinX | or is that just a bad idea? |
| 01:10.43 | kergoth`bbl | PenguinX: read the faq on openzaurus.org |
| 01:13.47 | Dessimat0r | I managed to get picogui working, but it wanted to suspend the Z all the time |
| 01:13.48 | Dessimat0r | ;) |
| 01:13.55 | Dessimat0r | like every second |
| 01:14.05 | ljp | hmm, thats odd |
| 01:14.15 | Dessimat0r | couldn't calibrate |
| 01:14.21 | Dessimat0r | as it was doing that |
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| 01:14.33 | ljp | where's scanline been.. finals or something? |
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| 01:15.50 | Dessimat0r | Fire up and call a plumber? |
| 01:16.01 | Dessimat0r | oh, gdb |
| 01:16.02 | Dessimat0r | lmao |
| 01:16.45 | PenguinX | hrm |
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| 01:20.48 | nagROM | what packages do i need to install op2 media player? |
| 01:20.49 | kergoth`bbl | TheMasterMind1: but i know the kenrel builds and boots fine, it must be something in pcmcia |
| 01:20.52 | kergoth`bbl | heh |
| 01:20.58 | TheMasterMind1 | yea, prolly |
| 01:20.58 | nagROM | i installed 3 of them but it doesn't start |
| 01:21.06 | kergoth`bbl | TheMasterMind1: you just need to try usbd |
| 01:21.15 | kergoth`bbl | TheMasterMind1: cause your initrd already has the usbd hotpug stuff... |
| 01:21.16 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth`bbl: where do i enable that |
| 01:21.27 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth`bbl: will it ever get that far.. maybe it dies before |
| 01:21.28 | kergoth`bbl | TheMasterMind1: main kernel config |
| 01:21.31 | kergoth`bbl | TheMasterMind1: all the way down |
| 01:21.34 | kergoth`bbl | TheMasterMind1: below usb |
| 01:21.37 | kergoth`bbl | TheMasterMind1: usbd |
| 01:21.46 | veriTAS | hey. rc1 works great. |
| 01:22.02 | TheMasterMind1 | usb device support? |
| 01:22.07 | kergoth`bbl | right |
| 01:22.09 | kergoth`bbl | try enabling it |
| 01:22.17 | kergoth`bbl | see if that works |
| 01:22.19 | TheMasterMind1 | do i need to enter any values and stuff? |
| 01:22.26 | kergoth`bbl | but yeah, if it crashes before you get there.. |
| 01:22.32 | kergoth`bbl | TheMasterMind1: use bk diffs |
| 01:22.34 | veriTAS | cradle suspend on resume bug is gone. i'm happy. |
| 01:22.41 | kergoth`bbl | TheMasterMind1: email me your pcmcia patch, i'll see if we can at least get it booting up |
| 01:22.44 | kergoth`bbl | TheMasterMind1: then you cna dig |
| 01:23.00 | TheMasterMind1 | bk -r diffs ? |
| 01:23.27 | JasonNJ | kergoth... how should we go about contacting dell to get the specs on the Axim? |
| 01:23.34 | JasonNJ | you want to make some inquiries? |
| 01:23.40 | JasonNJ | it would be kinda weird if I did it |
| 01:24.37 | kergoth`bbl | JasonNJ: will do |
| 01:24.57 | kergoth`bbl | JasonNJ: send an email to kergoth@handhelds.org mentioning it, that way ill be sure to get it done |
| 01:25.03 | JasonNJ | if you need help... you might want to enlist bruce |
| 01:25.17 | JasonNJ | he's good for stuff like that. |
| 01:25.36 | veriTAS | woop. suspend on resume bug is still there. |
| 01:25.42 | veriTAS | but i still like rc1 |
| 01:25.45 | kergoth`bbl | JasonNJ: ok |
| 01:25.46 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth`bbl: i already bkci'ed some files.. |
| 01:26.04 | kergoth`bbl | TheMasterMind1: create a changeset, then export the changeset as a patch |
| 01:26.11 | kergoth`bbl | TheMasterMind1: bk export -tpatch -r[#] afaicr |
| 01:26.14 | nadav | OMG |
| 01:26.18 | nadav | wrong window |
| 01:28.05 | JasonNJ | http://findadeath.com/Christmas/santa%20grave.jpg |
| 01:35.00 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth`bbl: www.tjhsst.edu/~agupta/pcmcia-cset.txt |
| 01:36.26 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth`bbl: eh, that didn't work |
| 01:36.26 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 01:36.29 | TheMasterMind1 | that changeset is crap |
| 01:36.44 | Dessimat0r | Whom is in charge of XMMS? Need to pester them with something ;) |
| 01:36.49 | TheMasterMind1 | Whom? |
| 01:36.51 | TheMasterMind1 | you mean who |
| 01:36.57 | Dessimat0r | yeah, lol |
| 01:37.01 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis is |
| 01:37.04 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 01:37.11 | Dessimat0r | pnis is asleep at the moment |
| 01:37.18 | Dessimat0r | I'll leave them a message |
| 01:37.37 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth`bbl: www.tjhsst.edu/~agupta/pcmcia-cset.txt its the right one now |
| 01:38.12 | Dessimat0r | ibot unlobotomy |
| 01:38.13 | | Dessimat0r: no idea |
| 01:39.40 | veriTAS | damnit. usb networking is boned. |
| 01:39.47 | veriTAS | how do i set it up manually? |
| 01:39.52 | veriTAS | and use ifup? |
| 01:39.55 | TheMasterMind1 | yes |
| 01:44.51 | veriTAS | bling. got it. |
| 01:47.05 | veriTAS | anyone have any gameboy games/ |
| 01:47.06 | veriTAS | ? |
| 01:47.13 | veriTAS | i want to try out this gnuboy. |
| 01:50.14 | TheMasterMind1 | what feed you using |
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| 01:52.52 | Dessimat0r | veriTAS: i do |
| 01:52.58 | Dessimat0r | i'll send em over |
| 01:53.06 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth`bbl: wake up! |
| 01:54.35 | Dessimat0r | the only problems with the gamebody emulator are that the sound is crap, and the screen is not big enough ;) |
| 01:54.45 | Dessimat0r | should use pixel doubling, or something |
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| 01:58.47 | jonezr | JasonNJ: you queer. |
| 01:59.09 | Dessimat0r | hmm? |
| 01:59.36 | jonezr | He just kb'd me from #zaurus for nothing :/ |
| 01:59.48 | Dessimat0r | bah |
| 02:00.38 | ljp | you took out your pee pee |
| 02:01.09 | jonezr | The wanker was antagonizing me. |
| 02:02.39 | jonezr | bah |
| 02:02.50 | ljp | heh |
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| 02:04.32 | TheMasterMind1 | hey Neo|Work |
| 02:04.35 | Neo|Work | hey |
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| 02:05.52 | ljp | pretty city, grandma's titty |
| 02:07.55 | JasonNJ | I'm in a bad mood |
| 02:08.16 | ljp | grab some rum, matie! |
| 02:08.19 | jonezr | JasonNJ: obviously |
| 02:08.36 | JasonNJ | ljp: good idea, I have some cuban matusalem anejo I just got |
| 02:09.03 | ljp | ahh. I'm just drinkin' cheap rum |
| 02:09.27 | ljp | I am liking this monitor |
| 02:09.43 | JasonNJ | ljp: oh, apprently Mount Gay is having a 250th anniversary party in NY in feb or march |
| 02:09.54 | JasonNJ | apparently they are doing a special edition rum to celebrate it |
| 02:10.09 | JasonNJ | supposed to be coming out of very old stock |
| 02:10.18 | ljp | hmmm interesting |
| 02:12.35 | ljp | I think I need to get kde3 on this box now |
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| 02:17.55 | veriTAS | for some reason nothing will run on oz rc1 |
| 02:18.06 | veriTAS | i cant get the gb emu to work. |
| 02:18.11 | veriTAS | or op2. |
| 02:23.22 | Dessimat0r | veriTAS: where are you installing to? |
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| 02:37.22 | PenguinX | has anyone had a problem flashing OZ 3.0 w/ a 256mb CF card on a 5000? |
| 02:37.39 | nadav | PenguinX: did you make sure it's FAT16? |
| 02:37.54 | PenguinX | yes |
| 02:38.04 | PenguinX | I've flashed quite a few times w/ this card |
| 02:38.14 | PenguinX | just thought I'd try out OZ this time |
| 02:38.20 | nadav | hm |
| 02:38.22 | PenguinX | again heh |
| 02:38.34 | nadav | i can't really help you |
| 02:38.41 | PenguinX | hrm |
| 02:38.43 | nadav | i flashed my 5000 with a 64MB cf with no trouble today |
| 02:38.51 | PenguinX | damn you dirty ape |
| 02:38.56 | PenguinX | ;) |
| 02:39.31 | PenguinX | when it starts I get the sharp logo and it hangs |
| 02:39.37 | nadav | erm |
| 02:39.39 | nadav | sharp logo? |
| 02:39.41 | PenguinX | yeah |
| 02:39.43 | nadav | you shouldn't get the sharp logo |
| 02:39.45 | PenguinX | nope |
| 02:39.52 | PenguinX | strange but tru |
| 02:39.59 | nadav | hm |
| 02:40.05 | nadav | you sure you didn't mess up somewhere in the flashing process? |
| 02:40.16 | nadav | do you have both initrd.bin and zImage on the CF? |
| 02:40.20 | PenguinX | Yes |
| 02:40.21 | nadav | did you rename the zImage* to zImage? |
| 02:40.22 | PenguinX | yes |
| 02:40.35 | PenguinX | I've flashed oz quite a number of times before... |
| 02:40.42 | nadav | bah |
| 02:43.23 | JasonNJ | I dont use caps |
| 02:43.28 | JasonNJ | I just name it zimage |
| 02:43.48 | nadav | oh? so it's not case sensitive? |
| 02:43.51 | nadav | heh |
| 02:44.06 | PenguinX | hrm |
| 02:44.08 | PenguinX | I'll try that |
| 02:46.30 | JasonNJ | oy |
| 02:46.54 | PenguinX | it's a glorious thing |
| 02:47.21 | nadav | oy? |
| 02:47.24 | nadav | heh |
| 02:47.28 | nadav | oy vey |
| 02:47.56 | JasonNJ | I want a pingizauru with a yarmulke |
| 02:48.05 | nadav | lmao |
| 02:48.10 | JasonNJ | and peyas |
| 02:48.26 | JasonNJ | lubovitcher pingizauru |
| 02:48.26 | nadav | a praying pingi |
| 02:48.32 | nadav | haha |
| 02:48.36 | JasonNJ | davening pingi |
| 02:48.55 | nadav | heh |
| 02:49.13 | JasonNJ | that can be the bootup screen on the hebrew internationalized version |
| 02:49.20 | nadav | uh |
| 02:49.26 | nadav | hebrew version? |
| 02:49.27 | nadav | hmm |
| 02:49.44 | JasonNJ | yeah I think there might be a hebrew opie already |
| 02:49.49 | nadav | cool |
| 02:50.15 | nadav | i wonder if anyone sells the Z in israel |
| 02:50.16 | nadav | doubt it |
| 02:50.29 | JasonNJ | are you in .il? |
| 02:50.40 | nadav | no. atlanta, ga |
| 02:50.42 | nadav | but i'm israeli though |
| 02:50.47 | JasonNJ | I figured |
| 02:50.58 | nadav | I think we had this conversation once before |
| 02:51.45 | JasonNJ | very possibly |
| 02:51.52 | nadav | hmmm |
| 02:52.02 | nadav | didn't you work in israel or something like that? |
| 02:52.06 | JasonNJ | yep |
| 02:52.17 | nadav | ah |
| 02:52.46 | nadav | hm |
| 02:53.04 | nadav | http://handhelds.org/pipermail/opie/2002-November/003313.html |
| 02:54.11 | JasonNJ | so its a qt 2.3 problem then |
| 02:54.19 | JasonNJ | another reason why we need to go to qt 3.x |
| 02:55.22 | nadav | hebrew support is always a pain |
| 02:56.15 | nadav | ? |
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| 03:01.52 | noda | Moo! |
| 03:02.01 | nadav | woof |
| 03:05.13 | ljp | meow |
| 03:07.19 | Dessimat0r | we should certainly use QT3.x, if it is avaialbe to us ;) |
| 03:07.27 | Dessimat0r | new versions are always better than old ones. |
| 03:07.29 | Dessimat0r | ;) |
| 03:07.32 | nadav | haha |
| 03:07.35 | nadav | almost true |
| 03:07.36 | noda | lol |
| 03:08.02 | Dessimat0r | hmm.. windows me was supposed to be better than win 98 tho.. ;) |
| 03:08.17 | noda | OpenZaurus keeps backwards compatibility with the Sharp ROM and QT3 isn't backwards compatible. |
| 03:08.31 | Dessimat0r | neither is GCC3.2 |
| 03:08.35 | Dessimat0r | but we have to move ahead |
| 03:09.02 | noda | Dessimat0r: Yes, but kergoth doesn't want to keep zillions of initrd's. |
| 03:09.03 | Dessimat0r | if OpenZaurus is attractive enough |
| 03:09.06 | Dessimat0r | then people WILL switch |
| 03:09.09 | Dessimat0r | and develop apps for it |
| 03:09.12 | Dessimat0r | and not the sharp rom |
| 03:09.14 | noda | I'd switch. |
| 03:09.37 | noda | But kergoth would need to keep zillions of initrd's if we keep doing stuff that breaks backwards compatibility. |
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| 03:10.04 | ljp | I'd rather be able to use all those zsi apps |
| 03:16.26 | H4NZ0 | ljp..right.. |
| 03:20.42 | lsmith | are there "pass through mics" that hook up to the mic/headphone jack but let you connect any headphone into them? |
| 03:21.05 | Dessimat0r | LOL, that would never work |
| 03:21.47 | Dessimat0r | tis analogus |
| 03:21.59 | Dessimat0r | analogue lol |
| 03:22.41 | Dessimat0r | the circutry does not allow for it |
| 03:22.53 | Dessimat0r | to have both mic and headphone at once |
| 03:23.39 | lsmith | hmm |
| 03:23.41 | ljp | sure it does |
| 03:23.51 | ljp | both mono |
| 03:24.08 | lsmith | aha |
| 03:24.45 | lsmith | hmm ... will check this out at a local hifi shop |
| 03:25.08 | ljp | get a cel phone mic/earpiece |
| 03:25.46 | ljp | make sure you have the correct size plug though |
| 03:25.50 | lsmith | well i think it would be kinda cool to record stuff .. |
| 03:26.01 | lsmith | but i want to generally use my good headphones |
| 03:26.13 | lsmith | then again .. |
| 03:26.49 | lsmith | huh? |
| 03:27.59 | ljp | http://www.opie.us/opie/devZone.php/sl5x00_mic.htm |
| 03:28.25 | ljp | sorry, no images |
| 03:32.17 | lsmith | thx |
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| 03:32.33 | lsmith | looks .. a reads interesting :-) |
| 03:35.36 | H4NZ0 | anyone hacking the battery ? |
| 03:36.20 | lsmith | i wonder if the larger batteries will fit .. and if you could just get a spare battery cover for your old zaurus .. |
| 03:36.51 | ljp | sure it will fit with duct tape! :) |
| 03:37.54 | ljp | ya |
| 03:37.57 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth`bbl: wake up |
| 03:37.57 | ljp | whoops |
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| 03:43.03 | ljp | did prpplague say he got that wireless keyboard from the webpal working with oz? |
| 03:43.17 | TheMasterMind1 | yes |
| 03:43.19 | TheMasterMind1 | he did |
| 03:43.22 | TheMasterMind1 | on console atleast |
| 03:43.25 | TheMasterMind1 | didn't test it with opie |
| 03:43.32 | ljp | oh cool. |
| 03:43.40 | TheMasterMind1 | use http://www.cs-net.gr/linbar/ |
| 03:43.41 | ljp | mine should arrive monday |
| 03:43.55 | TheMasterMind1 | nice |
| 03:45.22 | ljp | linbar? |
| 03:46.45 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 03:47.12 | ljp | hmm |
| 03:50.27 | H4NZ0 | i'm waiting for a bluetooth device |
| 03:51.06 | TheMasterMind1 | PenguinX: are you here? |
| 03:52.14 | PenguinX | Indeed |
| 03:53.05 | TheMasterMind1 | did you get OZ flashed? |
| 03:53.23 | PenguinX | nope |
| 03:53.26 | TheMasterMind1 | oh |
| 03:53.27 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 03:53.28 | PenguinX | in fact the ROMIMAGE didn't work either |
| 03:53.34 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 03:53.35 | PenguinX | from the normal sharp feed |
| 03:53.35 | TheMasterMind1 | interesting |
| 03:53.36 | PenguinX | so |
| 03:53.47 | PenguinX | methinks I will take my cf card home and reformat it |
| 03:54.14 | PenguinX | although the sharp one booted, but essentially locked the first time it came up |
| 03:54.20 | PenguinX | *grumbles* |
| 04:08.39 | Dessimat0r | SHOW ME, SHOW YOU, KIKKO-MAN, KIKKO-MAN goodnight ;) |
| 04:09.00 | Dessimat0r | he comes from the land of Soy |
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| 04:42.19 | TheMasterMind1 | someone buy me a serialio.com cable so i can work on the kernel |
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| 05:05.17 | jonezr | TheMasterMind1: expensive cable |
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| 07:56.17 | veriTAS | oh man. |
| 08:06.16 | kergoth`bbl | hey |
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| 09:48.59 | schurig|home | hi |
| 09:56.54 | schurig|home | Hi to Korea! |
| 09:57.07 | Piete | :) |
| 09:57.21 | Piete | Hi to <insert your country here>! |
| 09:58.56 | Piete | ljp: that hack looks interesting, but it will look even better with pictures :) |
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| 10:25.10 | Piete | man, I can't wait for opie-on-X |
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| 10:58.50 | schurig|home | Piete: I've read that opie-on-x already works. There is a Makefile.x11 in the opie-sourcetree |
| 11:01.50 | Piete | schurig|home: yea, I saw on opie's site |
| 11:02.21 | Piete | I don't that it that badly right now, so I'll stick with what I have now :) |
| 11:08.15 | Piete | l8r |
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| 12:04.11 | AndyQ | hey |
| 12:05.22 | lsmith | alo |
| 12:07.11 | nobse | AndyQ: zremote has no icon in the taskbar when running |
| 12:07.35 | AndyQ | nobse: I know - fortunatly I was only responsible for the source - TMM1 created the package |
| 12:07.44 | AndyQ | nobse: give him some stick when he logs on :) |
| 12:07.48 | AndyQ | hehe |
| 12:07.52 | nobse | AndyQ: ok :) |
| 12:08.14 | AndyQ | nobse: either that or get in quick and design an icon for it |
| 12:08.27 | nobse | AndyQ: we can steal the opie-remote icon :) |
| 12:09.15 | AndyQ | hehe that works - I'll mention it to TMM1 when I next speak to him |
| 12:09.32 | nobse | fine :) |
| 12:14.07 | AndyQ | hehe - just read the bun fight on the Zaurus general mail list |
| 12:14.24 | AndyQ | lots of people throwing their toys out of the pram :) |
| 13:01.34 | ljp_ | pram? |
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| 13:13.20 | AndyQ | lo |
| 13:35.34 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: here? |
| 13:35.40 | AndyQ | not yet |
| 13:35.52 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: nobse was saying that zremote doesn't have an icon |
| 13:36.04 | TheMasterMind1 | yea, it doesn't |
| 13:36.06 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: and could we use the existing opie-remote one |
| 13:36.11 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 13:36.17 | TheMasterMind1 | right now its a weird setup |
| 13:36.20 | AndyQ | lol |
| 13:36.23 | TheMasterMind1 | i have a shell script called zremote |
| 13:36.29 | TheMasterMind1 | that sets up stuff and calls zremote_gui |
| 13:36.56 | TheMasterMind1 | need to move all the shell script stuff to C code as part of the gui |
| 13:37.04 | AndyQ | hehe |
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| 13:40.21 | Dessimat0r | lo all |
| 13:40.21 | AndyQ | hey Dessimat0r |
| 13:41.45 | TheMasterMind1 | sup |
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| 13:54.04 | Dessimat0r | any more progress with the x.19 kernel? ;_ |
| 13:54.18 | TheMasterMind1 | not really |
| 13:54.21 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth dissapeared |
| 13:54.27 | TheMasterMind1 | and pcmcia causes kernel panics |
| 13:54.27 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 13:54.34 | TheMasterMind1 | and i can't debug with no serial cable |
| 13:54.36 | Dessimat0r | not good |
| 13:55.09 | TheMasterMind1 | schurig|home: here? |
| 13:55.25 | TheMasterMind1 | schurig|home: qte doesn't build, it can't find qte-configs-oz.patch |
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| 14:05.39 | TheMasterMind1 | lmx? |
| 14:08.13 | xml | lmx? |
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| 14:53.55 | schurig|home | TheMasterMind1: I'm here |
| 14:55.18 | schurig|home | TheMasterMind1: just change the Makefile to qte-oz.patch ... that should make it compilable. Sorry for messing things up :( |
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| 15:27.12 | Dilb | hi |
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| 16:36.40 | guylhem | hi-does anybody else has the unusable keyboard bug in console-mode with oz3.1rc1? I mean exiting opie does not let me do shelll commands or login as root. |
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| 16:49.48 | AndyQ | hey |
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| 17:00.43 | mark | hi AndyQ |
| 17:01.01 | AndyQ | quiet tonight |
| 17:01.25 | Dessimat0r | he comes from the planet of soy, our warrior and hero, Kikko-man |
| 17:01.30 | AndyQ | hehe |
| 17:01.36 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 17:01.37 | AndyQ | smoking crack again Dess? |
| 17:01.49 | Dessimat0r | Take that, foreign sauces! |
| 17:01.56 | Dessimat0r | Show me |
| 17:01.58 | Dessimat0r | Show you |
| 17:02.14 | Dessimat0r | heh |
| 17:02.18 | AndyQ | lol |
| 17:02.19 | Dessimat0r | take a look at this flash ;) |
| 17:02.35 | Dessimat0r | http://yoga.tripod.co.jp/flash/kikkomaso_e.htm |
| 17:02.38 | AndyQ | brb..... |
| 17:04.04 | kolla | http://www.tiqit.com/ :) |
| 17:05.14 | Dessimat0r | crap thats nice :D |
| 17:07.04 | kolla | mm |
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| 17:10.44 | AndyQ | back |
| 17:11.22 | AndyQ | oops - broke SFCaves replays |
| 17:11.26 | AndyQ | better fix it I guess |
| 17:11.31 | guylhem | hi-does anybody else has the unusable keyboard bug in console-mode with oz3.1rc1? I mean exiting opie does not let me do shelll commands or login as root. |
| 17:14.10 | guylhem | nobody? never mind then |
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| 17:16.23 | asys3 | guylhem: no. i don't have this problem. |
| 17:18.48 | asys3 | anybody knows if there exist fixed packsges of oz3.1rc1 ? |
| 17:20.47 | Dessimat0r | AndyQ: have it keep a save in replay as you are playing the game, without the user being aware. Then ask them if they want to save a replay of it after |
| 17:20.56 | Dessimat0r | then you don't get replays that the user dosent care about |
| 17:21.17 | Dessimat0r | i.e. Warecraft 3 style ;) |
| 17:21.21 | Dessimat0r | Warcraft |
| 17:21.21 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 17:21.57 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: I always store the last game played in memory - you can save it by selecting the save replay option |
| 17:22.03 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 17:22.12 | Dessimat0r | i see now ;) |
| 17:22.17 | AndyQ | You may think it does nothing but it does |
| 17:22.26 | AndyQ | I haven't put any visual feedback in for that yet :) |
| 17:22.31 | Dessimat0r | ;) |
| 17:23.00 | Dessimat0r | AndyQ: you need a spinning cube behind the menu at the start, or something ;) |
| 17:23.05 | AndyQ | lol |
| 17:23.15 | AndyQ | I need the replays working properly first |
| 17:23.21 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 17:31.15 | Dessimat0r | andyQ, can you have the particles fade? |
| 17:31.23 | Dessimat0r | as they come out |
| 17:31.35 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: probably |
| 17:31.38 | Dessimat0r | it would meerly be a case of changing their colour |
| 17:31.42 | Dessimat0r | and it would look nice ;) |
| 17:32.00 | AndyQ | I've fixed the replay, just making the scoring in fly better |
| 17:32.06 | AndyQ | and then I'll look at the particles |
| 17:32.07 | Dessimat0r | k |
| 17:32.29 | Dessimat0r | ;) |
| 17:33.17 | Dessimat0r | just make it look at the distance from the ribbon, and use some sort of algorithm to do the colour (alpha / distance from ribbon) |
| 17:56.44 | nobse | hmm... is there an app to use files in iCalendar format? |
| 18:04.31 | Dessimat0r | nobse: iCalendar ;) |
| 18:05.38 | nobse | Dessimat0r: Hu? For OZ? |
| 18:06.00 | kergoth | okay, i need a challenge |
| 18:06.00 | Dessimat0r | heh |
| 18:06.02 | Dessimat0r | no ;) |
| 18:06.06 | kergoth | i think |
| 18:06.13 | kergoth | I'll get both keyboard and pcmcia done today |
| 18:06.16 | hardwire | I challenge you! |
| 18:06.18 | kergoth | and xmas shopping |
| 18:06.20 | Dessimat0r | kergoth: ooh |
| 18:06.39 | kergoth | heh! |
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| 18:07.10 | hardwire | I smelt your gauntlet! |
| 18:07.15 | Dessimat0r | ~lart the Zaurus |
| 18:07.29 | hardwire | heh |
| 18:07.31 | Dessimat0r | ~lart the Zaurus |
| 18:07.55 | Dessimat0r | hmm |
| 18:08.03 | Dessimat0r | these are MADE for the Zaurus ;) |
| 18:08.16 | Dessimat0r | ~lart the Zaurus |
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| 18:14.37 | gortsleigh | what happened to 'atd' on 3.1rc1? |
| 18:14.43 | kergoth | gortsleigh: replaced. |
| 18:14.47 | kergoth | gortsleigh: it sucked horribly. |
| 18:15.07 | gortsleigh | hrm. replaced by opie-opiealarm .. or ? |
| 18:15.26 | kergoth | gortsleigh: now we use a proper apm daemon, which runs opiealarm on suspend .. when it suspends, it syncs the clock, and sets the wakeup alarm on the rtc |
| 18:15.44 | AndyQ | hey kergoth |
| 18:15.45 | kergoth | gortsleigh: and on shutdown we run a script which runs hwclock to sync the clocks, in case you reboot without suspending |
| 18:15.55 | kergoth | hey AndyQ |
| 18:16.03 | gortsleigh | kergoth: that's great |
| 18:17.19 | gortsleigh | kergoth: is there an equivalent mechanism to 'at' and 'atq' ... or should we just script those as with sleep / apmsleep? |
| 18:17.22 | kergoth | gortsleigh: yeah. -much- better system. and the /dev/rtc isnt held open all the damn time. so you can run hwclock or whatever without having to kill atd |
| 18:17.31 | gortsleigh | ah |
| 18:17.32 | kergoth | gortsleigh: atd was never the 'atd' you're used to from desktops |
| 18:17.39 | kergoth | gortsleigh: its the alarm daemon, not the 'at' daemon |
| 18:17.51 | kergoth | geh i need a coffee |
| 18:17.52 | kergoth | brb |
| 18:18.59 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: you still here? |
| 18:20.26 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: ping |
| 18:28.58 | AndyQ | ibot be zippy |
| 18:29.12 | AndyQ | ibot seen Dessimat0r |
| 18:29.12 | | dessimat0r is currently on #openzaurus (4h 48m 55s). Has said a total of 39 messages. Is idling for 20m 56s |
| 18:29.28 | AndyQ | ibot lart Dessimat0r |
| 18:33.37 | Dessimat0r | LOL |
| 18:33.43 | AndyQ | Ahh - your back |
| 18:33.48 | Dessimat0r | yup |
| 18:34.02 | AndyQ | if you fancy grabbing 1.13 from my feed you can press e to turn on fading smoke trails |
| 18:34.10 | Dessimat0r | ooh ooh ooh |
| 18:34.11 | Dessimat0r | k |
| 18:34.12 | AndyQ | it does slow things down slightly though |
| 18:34.18 | AndyQ | let me know what you think |
| 18:34.20 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 18:34.29 | Dessimat0r | is there no way to make it more efficent? ;) |
| 18:34.38 | AndyQ | which is why I put it in as an optional feature |
| 18:34.38 | kergoth | the other day someone was saying that sfcave slows down at times |
| 18:34.49 | Dessimat0r | i see |
| 18:34.51 | AndyQ | not really - all I'm going is a call to qpainter.setPenColor |
| 18:35.10 | kergoth | and some other guy sent me over to sfcave.com to play it and compare, he says your up/down increases speed, not accelleration.. the one on sfcave.com feels differently as a result. try it |
| 18:35.14 | AndyQ | kergoth: I've seen that once and a reboot solved it so something else was going on |
| 18:35.20 | Dessimat0r | AndyQ: write directly to the framebuffer ;) |
| 18:35.22 | kergoth | AndyQ: ah, odd |
| 18:35.35 | kergoth | yeah, you could use a QDirectPainter ;) |
| 18:35.39 | AndyQ | kergoth: I've tried it but I prefer the movement of the Z version |
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| 18:35.51 | AndyQ | kergoth: hmmm - not seen that one - I'll take a look |
| 18:36.06 | AndyQ | kergoth: any idea if its a straight replacement for QPainter? |
| 18:36.14 | Dessimat0r | cool, I actually said something useful ;) |
| 18:36.21 | AndyQ | hehe |
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| 18:36.28 | kergoth | AndyQ: QDirectPainter is very nearly direct to FB. dunno offhand. check the TT docs. |
| 18:36.34 | kergoth | AndyQ: or talk to neo, its what he uses for all his games. |
| 18:36.35 | AndyQ | just doing that |
| 18:37.47 | AndyQ | hmmmm - no QDirectPainter in docs |
| 18:38.10 | kergoth | AndyQ: ah, its qt/e specific.. |
| 18:38.37 | kergoth | hah, this is funny.. i didnt realize it, but this keyboard driver someone sent me to use as a base for the collie driver.. |
| 18:38.37 | AndyQ | k - ill try using it instead - see what happens |
| 18:38.38 | Dessimat0r | http://andyq.myby.co.uk/feed/sfcave_1.13_arm.ipk |
| 18:38.45 | AndyQ | yup |
| 18:38.52 | kergoth | does almost exactly what i was doing, except it also does one thing i left out.. that one thing was in the original collie driver! |
| 18:38.56 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:39.02 | kergoth | yep, this'll do the job just fine |
| 18:39.05 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:41.58 | Dessimat0r | AndyQ: the fading trail 0wnz all :D however, can you make it fade from red to orange? |
| 18:42.16 | AndyQ | never satisfied :) |
| 18:42.18 | Dessimat0r | might look interesting ;) |
| 18:42.20 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 18:43.10 | AndyQ | kergoth: any docs for qdirectpainter or just look through the code? |
| 18:43.23 | kergoth | AndyQ: dunno, i've never used it :) talk to neo |
| 18:43.31 | AndyQ | k |
| 18:51.10 | AndyQ | kergoth: hows .19 coming along? |
| 18:51.36 | kergoth | AndyQ: tmm1 fixed the patch rejects to get pcmcia working.. it kernel panics.. but i'll get that working easy enough |
| 18:51.51 | kergoth | AndyQ: keyboard driver is still -just- about done, keep having little shit come up that slows me down |
| 18:52.05 | kergoth | AndyQ: usb networking works.. lets see |
| 18:52.13 | kergoth | beyond that, theres still a shitload of stuff on the todo :) |
| 18:52.30 | AndyQ | hehe but sounds like your making good progress |
| 18:53.49 | AndyQ | oh and I liked the bun fight on the Z mailing list |
| 18:54.06 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:54.08 | kergoth | that was amusing |
| 18:54.10 | AndyQ | some people need to relax :) |
| 18:54.16 | AndyQ | seriously! |
| 18:54.49 | kergoth | i dunno what their problem was.. last i checked openzaurus is on topic for a zaurus list |
| 18:54.56 | kergoth | anyway |
| 18:55.02 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:55.38 | AndyQ | yeah - I mean - geez talking about a Zaurus OS on a Zaurus General mailing list |
| 18:55.43 | kergoth | heh! the keyboard driver works |
| 18:55.45 | AndyQ | can't get any more on topic IMO |
| 18:55.50 | AndyQ | woo |
| 18:56.06 | kergoth | need to uncomment bits to get it pushing the events into the input layer.. and the shift/fn keys dont do a damn thing yet.. |
| 18:56.16 | AndyQ | kergoth: can you get opie running on it yet? |
| 18:56.45 | kergoth | AndyQ: well, once i uncomment those keyboard bits, it'll likely run, though w/ no touchscreen :) |
| 18:56.58 | AndyQ | hehe - running stuff will be fun then |
| 18:57.45 | AndyQ | right - I'm off for a while - splashing out tonight |
| 18:57.51 | AndyQ | taking the wife out for a pizza :) |
| 18:58.16 | AndyQ | know how to show a girl a good time me! |
| 18:58.45 | AndyQ | later |
| 18:58.46 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:58.47 | kergoth | have fun |
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| 19:20.55 | bisho | hi! |
| 19:22.04 | Dessimat0r | rofl @ you having to deal with someone on the Zaurus mailing list, you are trained to deal with people in your job, so he basically has no chance of winning the debate ;) |
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| 19:39.46 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: was fun! |
| 19:39.54 | kergoth | hey bisho |
| 19:45.55 | bisho | hi kergoth! |
| 19:46.16 | bisho | I'm going to have my own CF card |
| 19:46.21 | kergoth | nice |
| 19:46.35 | bisho | so I couñd follow the development closely |
| 19:46.53 | bisho | right now I have to ask friend for one... |
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| 19:57.27 | NoUse | does anyone have a good method for using the Z for an good mp3/ogg player? |
| 19:58.21 | ljp | click on opieplayer icon |
| 19:58.32 | NoUse | yeah I know that |
| 19:58.35 | ljp | put in headphones |
| 19:58.44 | ljp | crank volume applet |
| 19:58.47 | ljp | :D |
| 19:58.57 | ljp | thats my method :D |
| 19:59.07 | NoUse | what about playlists, when I upload my music it only plays one song at a time |
| 20:00.15 | ljp | add all the files to the playlist, and select the loop button |
| 20:00.22 | ljp | op2 can play ogg |
| 20:00.42 | NoUse | so everytime I upload new files I have to manually add each song to the playlist? |
| 20:00.56 | ljp | my cat is eating from these foam packing sheets |
| 20:01.22 | ljp | umm,, ya |
| 20:01.33 | NoUse | ouch |
| 20:01.43 | ljp | "add all audio" |
| 20:01.48 | NoUse | that doesn't do anything |
| 20:01.56 | NoUse | for some reason |
| 20:02.13 | ljp | works here |
| 20:02.20 | NoUse | ok |
| 20:02.30 | ljp | adds all audio files to the current playlist, which is the first tab |
| 20:02.39 | ljp | or should anyway |
| 20:03.32 | ljp | using a recent version? |
| 20:03.42 | NoUse | the new rc1 |
| 20:07.02 | NoUse | its supposed to scan a new CF when its inserted right? is there any way to make sure that is taking place properly? |
| 20:07.11 | ljp | and "opie media player" or "opie player"? |
| 20:07.45 | NoUse | opie media player |
| 20:08.05 | ljp | well, the scanning actually takes place with qpe, and player gets a list from it |
| 20:08.28 | ljp | ok, thats op2 |
| 20:08.32 | NoUse | for instance, right now I have 3 mp3s on the root parition of my card |
| 20:08.36 | ljp | you have the codecs installed? |
| 20:08.57 | NoUse | yeah it plays it fine if I click the mp3 from the Documents tab in opie |
| 20:09.12 | NoUse | but it can't see to see it from inside opie media players |
| 20:09.49 | ljp | it should put all the audio files it finds in the "Audio" tab |
| 20:10.10 | NoUse | its blank |
| 20:10.28 | NoUse | the audio tab that is |
| 20:11.06 | ljp | when you first inserted the cf, a dialog popped up, do you remember what you selected? |
| 20:11.30 | ljp | [x]scan for audio files |
| 20:11.58 | NoUse | no but I've checked the settings under Medium Mount in Settings |
| 20:12.10 | NoUse | its set the check for everything |
| 20:12.34 | ljp | and you have also selected global settings? |
| 20:13.06 | NoUse | yeah |
| 20:13.59 | ljp | can you access the cf from the file manager? |
| 20:14.22 | NoUse | yeah no prob |
| 20:14.35 | NoUse | the only thing that seems to be blind to CF is opie media player |
| 20:14.59 | ljp | try reopening opie media player |
| 20:15.08 | NoUse | but I can select a specific mp3 using "Open File or URL" |
| 20:15.38 | NoUse | I've tried that, I'm gonna reboot the Z now |
| 20:16.16 | ljp | no need to reboot |
| 20:16.32 | NoUse | still nothin anyway |
| 20:17.10 | NoUse | what Ipkgs should be installed to use opie media? |
| 20:17.32 | ljp | opie media player and codecs |
| 20:17.41 | ljp | op2 that is |
| 20:17.55 | NoUse | ok |
| 20:18.03 | sandman_ | maybe try to remove .opie-storage.conf on the CF card and re-insert the card |
| 20:18.14 | NoUse | ok |
| 20:18.16 | ljp | ya, I was going to suggest that next |
| 20:18.41 | ljp | wow, I actually like tkcEditor now it looks like all the rest of my apps :D |
| 20:19.30 | NoUse | you guys are genius, pure genius |
| 20:19.35 | NoUse | :-) |
| 20:19.41 | sandman_ | [x] Force style makes even tkc apps useable ;) |
| 20:19.51 | ljp | yesiree! |
| 20:19.56 | NoUse | thanks so much for your help |
| 20:20.18 | ljp | it might be my imagination, but it seeks tkcEditor is faster when force style is used |
| 20:20.28 | ljp | seems, not seeks |
| 20:20.55 | sandman_ | ljp: someone who bought zstyle suggested to sell zstyle/liquid to tkc, because their stuff is sooo slow compared to liquid .. |
| 20:21.13 | ljp | so its true?! |
| 20:21.39 | sandman_ | IMHO tkcEdit *is* faster with liquid |
| 20:21.50 | ljp | heh you might talk with Shawn.. |
| 20:21.50 | sandman_ | (well .. it coulnd't get much slower anyway ...) |
| 20:22.00 | ljp | I think it is faster, too |
| 20:22.47 | ljp | at least the gui is.. loading is still slow |
| 20:23.17 | ljp | loading a file |
| 20:24.21 | ljp | has anyone tried kate? |
| 20:24.26 | ljp | for z |
| 20:25.10 | nobse | what is kate? |
| 20:25.39 | nobse | ah... |
| 20:26.18 | ljp | opie has minikate |
| 20:26.45 | nobse | not in the oz feed |
| 20:27.00 | ljp | I'm not even sure it builds |
| 20:27.26 | ljp | if I wasnt compiling kde3.1 for my other box right now, I'd try |
| 20:29.13 | nobse | what about adding the original vim to oz? |
| 20:29.43 | ljp | vim? |
| 20:29.53 | nobse | best editor in the universe |
| 20:29.58 | ljp | hmmm |
| 20:30.12 | ljp | I doubt the Vogans use vim |
| 20:30.36 | ljp | I think there is a vim for arm somewhere |
| 20:30.37 | nobse | ljp: yeah, your right... lets add xemacs to the feed |
| 20:30.40 | nobse | </sarcasm> |
| 20:30.52 | ljp | I use emacs everyday on my z |
| 20:30.55 | ljp | uemacs |
| 20:31.39 | ljp | and one of these days I am going to add it to the buildroot, since kergoth _still_ doesnt have enough room for it :) |
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| 20:32.33 | nobse | heh |
| 20:33.24 | nobse | ehehe... http://rikkus.info/arch/vim_6.1_arm.ipk |
| 20:33.57 | nobse | Hell! It 862k big! |
| 20:34.02 | nobse | only the binary |
| 20:34.08 | rabbit_uk | I have nano if you want it. It's much smaller |
| 20:34.43 | rabbit_uk | 100k + 200k (ncurses 5) |
| 20:35.04 | nobse | I just want a small editor with syntax hilighting. |
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| 20:43.24 | AndyQ | lo |
| 20:44.46 | rabbit_uk | nano 1.0.9 doesn't have hilighting. Will have a look at 1.1. 1.1 at least has multiple buffers |
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| 21:24.12 | Onyx4 | nobse: hi |
| 21:24.18 | Onyx4 | nobse: was it you who resquested zbedic? |
| 21:24.36 | nobse | Onyx4: no |
| 21:24.54 | nobse | Onyx4: but I request holiday calc and the nmap frontend now :)) |
| 21:25.03 | Onyx4 | nmap fe is done |
| 21:25.08 | Onyx4 | I just added it this morning |
| 21:25.11 | Onyx4 | I added socat |
| 21:25.16 | nobse | hehe, fine : |
| 21:25.17 | nobse | ) |
| 21:25.26 | Onyx4 | im doing puzz-le now |
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| 21:29.08 | gortsleigh_ | eh ... wha |
| 21:29.32 | gortsleigh_ | .. oops -- what's the trick to convince opera to display gifs? |
| 21:30.44 | gortsleigh_ | ljp: (reading back to conversation about editors): I use emacs with (not on) the Z, using the tramp package and ssh ... that rocks! |
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| 21:37.19 | AndyQ | hey Dessimat0r |
| 21:37.24 | Dessimat0r | lo |
| 21:37.41 | Dessimat0r | bloody hell, lost in WC3 again |
| 21:38.31 | ljp | you got lost in the internet? |
| 21:39.14 | Dessimat0r | ? |
| 21:39.17 | Dessimat0r | Warcraft 3 |
| 21:39.19 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 21:40.23 | ljp | oh, my brother got lost in the internet in 1999, havent heard from him since.. :) |
| 21:41.18 | ljp | damn I wish kde would finish |
| 21:41.27 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 21:41.43 | AndyQ | ljp: any idea of how QDirectPainter works? |
| 21:42.12 | ljp | kinda |
| 21:42.34 | ljp | used it only once I think |
| 21:42.37 | Dessimat0r | http://doc.trolltech.com/3.0/qdirectpainter.html |
| 21:42.40 | Dessimat0r | there you go ;) |
| 21:42.41 | AndyQ | ljp: OK, I'd like to convert SFCave to use QDirectPainter instead of QPainter |
| 21:42.47 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: those are crap |
| 21:42.49 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 21:42.49 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 21:43.04 | ljp | and he needs the 2.3.4 docs |
| 21:43.06 | AndyQ | ljp: BUT I have a nasty feeling that its gonna be tricky |
| 21:43.15 | AndyQ | ljp: very |
| 21:43.23 | ljp | bitblt? |
| 21:43.24 | Dessimat0r | AndyQ: but it's hyperefficient ;) |
| 21:43.33 | AndyQ | ljp: I was hoping that I could just drop QDirectPainter in in its place |
| 21:43.47 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: K - tell you what - you port SFCave to use it :) |
| 21:43.53 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 21:43.53 | ljp | for the most part, I think thats what its supposed to be like |
| 21:44.17 | AndyQ | ljp: however, looking through the OpiePlayer2 code it seems to use clip rectangles and stuff |
| 21:44.28 | Dessimat0r | AndyQ: just find / replace QPainter with QDirectPainer, and see what happens ;) |
| 21:44.34 | AndyQ | ljp: of which it isn't explained anywhere |
| 21:44.45 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: tried that - wierd stuff happens |
| 21:44.52 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: like everything is white |
| 21:44.52 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 21:44.56 | Dessimat0r | freakish |
| 21:45.08 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: and the screen isn't cleared o anything |
| 21:45.08 | ljp | is qdirectpainter even in 2.3.4? |
| 21:45.13 | AndyQ | ljp: yup |
| 21:45.14 | Dessimat0r | hmm |
| 21:45.29 | Dessimat0r | is there any source code for games made in this? |
| 21:45.35 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: So it looks like the fading smoke is going to remain off by default |
| 21:45.36 | Dessimat0r | sdl asteroids?: |
| 21:45.42 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: I haven't come across any |
| 21:46.24 | Dessimat0r | http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=791 |
| 21:46.27 | Dessimat0r | this one? ;) |
| 21:46.59 | AndyQ | I suppose I could port across to SDL |
| 21:47.45 | AndyQ | but I'd have to learn how to use it first |
| 21:49.00 | Onyx4 | is someone pushing changes into bk? |
| 21:49.27 | Dessimat0r | #include <qpaintdevice.h> |
| 21:49.31 | Dessimat0r | is this for directpainter? |
| 21:49.45 | AndyQ | nope - #include <qdirectpainter_qws.h> |
| 21:49.49 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 21:50.48 | Dessimat0r | what is BitBlt? |
| 21:50.59 | ljp | bit block transfer |
| 21:51.12 | AndyQ | It takes an image and shoves it quickly across to your destination |
| 21:51.17 | AndyQ | SFCave uses that at the moment |
| 21:51.18 | ljp | can do double buffering with it |
| 21:51.29 | Onyx4 | ok I just pushed nmapfe, puzz-le and socat into bk |
| 21:53.00 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 21:56.05 | Dessimat0r | isn't Six Feet Under crap? |
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| 22:03.13 | nobse | Onyx4: what about adding http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=420 to the feed? |
| 22:03.57 | Onyx4 | maybe yeah |
| 22:04.21 | nobse | ok, nmapfe works fine |
| 22:04.42 | Onyx4 | yeah |
| 22:04.54 | Onyx4 | puzz-le as well |
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| 22:05.21 | Onyx4 | socat im not sure what to test with it ? :) |
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| 22:16.33 | Dessimat0r | a flash player for the Z would be good ;) |
| 22:16.40 | Dessimat0r | might run slow as crap tho |
| 22:21.03 | ljp | not |
| 22:21.57 | ljp | ok.. goal for me-> compile gpe for zaurus, flash oz on Z#2, *gasp* delete opie , install x/gpe |
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| 22:23.00 | Zed_ | Hi! |
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| 22:33.18 | bisho | gpe? |
| 22:33.31 | nobse | bisho: gpe.handhelds.org |
| 22:33.33 | bisho | ljp: gpe is gnome? |
| 22:33.59 | bisho | in wih state is the project? |
| 22:34.33 | nobse | Never used it, just saw it on a friends iPaq. |
| 22:34.38 | nobse | Its GTK. |
| 22:34.42 | nobse | not gnome |
| 22:34.48 | bisho | aham |
| 22:34.50 | bisho | I see |
| 22:35.06 | mark | the GTK/gnome folk are a bunch of copycats. first they copy qt/kde. now opie... |
| 22:35.07 | mark | ;) |
| 22:35.31 | jonezr | at least gtk/gnome is gnu |
| 22:35.35 | bisho | flamewar? |
| 22:35.37 | bisho | XD |
| 22:35.41 | mark | hehe |
| 22:54.46 | ljp | gpe uses gtk |
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| 22:55.13 | ljp | heh oh.. |
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| 23:46.41 | FelixKat | can anyone help me with a network issue |
| 23:47.49 | kolla | depends |
| 23:48.19 | FelixKat | I can't get openzaurus to connect via usb0 |
| 23:48.22 | bisho | try |
| 23:48.30 | bisho | linux/win? |
| 23:48.43 | kolla | I am clueless, dont use the usb |
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| 23:49.29 | FelixKat | I am running windows 98 but openzaurus on the pda. I must ... can't get a wireless nic till after christmas |
| 23:49.54 | bisho | I only use linux... |
| 23:50.13 | bisho | But anyway, have you tried to install the software of the Sharp CDROM? |
| 23:51.17 | FelixKat | yes |
| 23:52.00 | bisho | and? |
| 23:52.03 | FelixKat | just can't get the computer and the zaurus to connect |
| 23:52.32 | lsmith | the usb stuff is flacky in starting up |
| 23:52.40 | bisho | and with the original sharp rom? |
| 23:52.47 | lsmith | tried to take the zaurus in and out of the cradle several times |
| 23:53.04 | lsmith | bisho: dunno about the sharp rom .. but definately with oz |
| 23:53.36 | bisho | I was asking FelixKat... |
| 23:53.51 | bisho | If with the original ROM usb was working |
| 23:53.56 | FelixKat | it worked with the original but not with with openzaurua |
| 23:53.56 | bisho | maybe is a Windoze issue |
| 23:54.03 | bisho | aham |
| 23:54.40 | FelixKat | I suppose I could re-flash it with the sharp rom |
| 23:54.52 | bisho | I remember that when flashed the rc1, I don't have network... |
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| 23:55.07 | bisho | I have to configure the isb0 device, reboot the Zaurus |
| 23:55.14 | bisho | and everything wroked... |
| 23:55.42 | bisho | Also check that you allow conections to the sharp from the computer... |
| 23:56.00 | bisho | The is an option in security to set the networks allowed... |
| 23:56.30 | FelixKat | any |
| 23:57.03 | testuser | i am using OZ 3.1rc1 with Windows ME |
| 23:57.10 | testuser | networked through USB |
| 23:57.37 | testuser | i manually configured the USB on windows to always have same IP |
| 23:57.50 | testuser | then set that as the gateway in OZ settings |
| 23:58.23 | lsmith | uhm could be the security settings |
| 23:58.37 | lsmith | look at settings->security |
| 23:58.50 | FelixKat | did ... allow any |
| 23:58.53 | lsmith | k |
| 23:59.12 | FelixKat | I am going to try setting manual in windoze brb |
| 23:59.16 | lsmith | then take out the zaurus out if the cradle and check in network if usb is running |
| 23:59.38 | lsmith | might take a couple tries |
