| 00:00.41 | Twiun | hobbs: not a bad idea |
| 00:01.16 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth whats new |
| 00:03.29 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: swiping battery spiffiness from ipaq's battery status code |
| 00:03.30 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: :D |
| 00:03.30 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth nice |
| 00:03.30 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth anything else? |
| 00:03.40 | TheMasterMind1 | err, what spiffiness? |
| 00:04.09 | TheMasterMind1 | did you find out anything about this wireless extensions drivers business? |
| 00:04.54 | beattie | having trouble with the wireless stuff? |
| 00:05.36 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: havent looked into the orinoco stuff |
| 00:05.42 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: hostap should be ready to roll |
| 00:05.47 | TheMasterMind1 | ok nice |
| 00:05.51 | TheMasterMind1 | i'll take care of orinoco then |
| 00:05.53 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i need to figure out why this initrd is hanging on boot though |
| 00:05.59 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: something with the use of devfs i'm sure |
| 00:05.59 | TheMasterMind1 | its hanging? |
| 00:06.00 | TheMasterMind1 | where? |
| 00:06.12 | TheMasterMind1 | ARGH. i HATE the person who made this patch |
| 00:06.16 | TheMasterMind1 | absolutely hate him |
| 00:06.28 | kergoth | it runs through all of rcS |
| 00:06.32 | kergoth | but never runs any of the rc2.d scripts |
| 00:06.38 | kergoth | just hangs after reconfiguring packages |
| 00:08.10 | hobbs | AAAGH. |
| 00:08.10 | hobbs | I just accidentally hit 'overwrite' instead of 'resume' on initrd.bin |
| 00:08.14 | kergoth | doh |
| 00:08.26 | hobbs | And I was 95% done. |
| 00:12.25 | hobbs | strange. it didn't actually overwrite, somehow. I'm okay. |
| 00:12.25 | TheMasterMind1 | lol |
| 00:12.25 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: ipaq's battery driver can learn about the capacity of the battery |
| 00:12.25 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth learn? |
| 00:12.25 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 00:12.25 | TheMasterMind1 | sweet |
| 00:12.25 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: yep. you let it empty the battery completely, then put it on the charger until its completely full |
| 00:12.25 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: then it has a better idea of how long it'll last |
| 00:12.25 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: fucking cool |
| 00:12.25 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:12.25 | tronical | wow |
| 00:12.26 | kergoth | As of 2.4.18-rmk3-hh20, the 3800-series iPAQ estimates power remaining by tracking accumulated current through the DS2760 battery monitor. |
| 00:12.26 | kergoth | </quote> |
| 00:12.26 | kergoth | so 3800 anyway |
| 00:12.26 | Dessimat0r | kergoth: We need this! :D |
| 00:12.26 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: i know. if we can do it, i will. |
| 00:12.26 | Twiun | do it in software! |
| 00:12.29 | TheMasterMind1 | heheh |
| 00:12.56 | Dessimat0r | It might make our Zauruses stay on for longer, as there might still be a charge left in the battery that the software dosen't know about |
| 00:13.06 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: nope |
| 00:13.08 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:13.15 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: it will only improve estimated time remaining |
| 00:13.18 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 00:13.20 | Dessimat0r | i see |
| 00:13.21 | hobbs | Dessimat0r: no, it uses the voltage to decide when it's shot. |
| 00:13.22 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: it measures the voltage, it _knows_ when its empty |
| 00:13.24 | kergoth | :) |
| 00:13.28 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 00:14.44 | hobbs | kergoth: 10 seconds left. |
| 00:14.48 | kergoth | okay time to nail down this bootup hang so i can finish testing |
| 00:14.52 | hobbs | oh wait, now there's a minute and a half left. :) |
| 00:16.00 | hobbs | aaagh. I am such a blinkin' idiot. |
| 00:16.21 | hobbs | I just resumed the 3.0 initrd.bin on top of half of the 3.1rc1 one. (could we maybe have the version number in the filename?) |
| 00:18.29 | kergoth | we could .. hmm. depends on whether we think people are competent enough to rename the initrd.bin :) |
| 00:18.29 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:18.29 | TheMasterMind1 | hah |
| 00:18.29 | TheMasterMind1 | the sad thing is.. we don't |
| 00:18.29 | hobbs | they already have to rename one thing, it wouldn't cause MORE "it won't flash/boot" reports. :) |
| 00:20.03 | hobbs | anyway, I happened to do a 'du' right before I resumed, so I just chopped off all but the tail of the file, and resumed. (I'll make sure to check md5sum though) |
| 00:20.56 | *** join/#openzaurus TeaX (~tx@ppp-108-173.27-151.libero.it) |
| 00:21.05 | Dessimat0r | initrd_3.0_please_rename_me_to_initrd.bin_kthxbye.bin ;) |
| 00:21.20 | TheMasterMind1 | lol |
| 00:21.34 | *** join/#openzaurus nagROM (~nagrom@66-65-12-70.nyc.rr.com) |
| 00:21.45 | hobbs | kplzthx is so much cooler. |
| 00:21.53 | Dessimat0r | ;) |
| 00:21.54 | nagROM | does anyone know of a pdf viewer that supports rotation? |
| 00:22.18 | kergoth | nagROM: rotate opie-pdf |
| 00:22.21 | kergoth | nagROM: use per app rotation |
| 00:22.38 | hobbs | yay. md5sum checks out. commence flashing. |
| 00:23.02 | nagROM | ahh. i'm using qpdf |
| 00:23.04 | Dessimat0r | md5 is after you for illegal activity. RUN! ;) |
| 00:23.23 | kergoth | ~lart Dessimat0r |
| 00:23.28 | Dessimat0r | rofl |
| 00:23.35 | kergoth | nagROM: per app rotation doesnt work with qpdf? |
| 00:24.00 | TheMasterMind1 | i've never had so much freaking fun in my life!! |
| 00:24.06 | TheMasterMind1 | manually applying a crappy patch |
| 00:24.06 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: hehe |
| 00:24.08 | TheMasterMind1 | a long time too |
| 00:24.11 | TheMasterMind1 | a long one rather |
| 00:24.14 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: are you ready to kill something yet? |
| 00:24.34 | Dessimat0r | No, but I am |
| 00:25.56 | kergoth | hm |
| 00:28.07 | badalex | my heart almost stopped... |
| 00:28.09 | hobbs | badalex: I did that once. (thought I fried it, not did) |
| 00:28.17 | badalex | hobbs: lol |
| 00:28.50 | hobbs | badalex: I built a home-brew battery pack, and I accidentally put "just a little bit" of reverse current to the DC jack. |
| 00:28.56 | badalex | i was flashin oz rc1, it got done, i tried to turn it on... then tried again, checked the battery switch... |
| 00:29.00 | badalex | hobbs: lol |
| 00:29.16 | badalex | hobbs: does that home-brew battery pack work ok? |
| 00:29.51 | hobbs | badalex: I haven't tried it since. i need to get a diode. :) |
| 00:29.51 | badalex | lol |
| 00:29.51 | badalex | brb |
| 00:29.51 | hobbs | badalex|dinner: but it worked okay for a few minutes. :) |
| 00:30.10 | hobbs | just 4xAA -> battery pack -> speaker wire -> "adaptaplug" |
| 00:31.34 | hobbs | weird. it sat there for a loong time before it said anything about init. but then it worked. |
| 00:31.53 | badalex|dinner | arhg it wont fuckin turn on now |
| 00:32.15 | hobbs | badalex|dinner: did you do another full-reset after you flashed? |
| 00:32.33 | badalex|dinner | oh duh... lol |
| 00:32.36 | hobbs | I forgot the first time. :) |
| 00:32.43 | badalex|dinner | thats better |
| 00:32.56 | badalex|dinner | i was using oz3, thought id try 3.1rc1 :) |
| 00:33.01 | hobbs | btw, does penguinzilla dude have a name? |
| 00:33.07 | hobbs | badalex|dinner: doing the same here right now. |
| 00:33.13 | kergoth | pingizauru |
| 00:33.18 | hobbs | badalex|dinner: I'm up to "reconfiguring..." and lots of dots. :) |
| 00:33.19 | badalex|dinner | well g2g now that it works, hehe |
| 00:33.37 | hobbs | alright. later. |
| 00:33.55 | hobbs | kergoth: that's a mouthful. :) |
| 00:34.05 | kergoth | indeed |
| 00:35.05 | nagROM | piss. qpdf wont uninstall |
| 00:36.13 | Twiun | kergoth: any idea if we've got a pingizaurus image stashed somewhere without his background and with an alpha channel? |
| 00:36.13 | kergoth | Twiun: yes, we do.. let me try to remember where |
| 00:36.13 | kergoth | Twiun: hardwire/whardier is the artist, he certianly has it somewhere |
| 00:36.13 | kergoth | this fucking image keeps hanging |
| 00:36.13 | kergoth | and i dont know why |
| 00:36.30 | Twiun | kergoth: I'm starting to think about an icon for Wonka ;-) |
| 00:36.46 | Twiun | and splash screen, of course |
| 00:36.47 | kergoth | ah, cool |
| 00:37.51 | TheMasterMind1 | Twiun gui stuff works now? |
| 00:38.06 | hardwire | rawr? |
| 00:38.18 | Twiun | TheMasterMind1: debugging the image code - toldya I was hacking in gif support ;-) |
| 00:38.22 | Twiun | hey hardwire |
| 00:38.32 | hardwire | hey Twiun |
| 00:38.43 | hardwire | I have no idea where the graphics are |
| 00:38.54 | Twiun | oh dear |
| 00:38.58 | hardwire | when I find it you will know :) |
| 00:39.02 | Twiun | no rush ;-) |
| 00:39.09 | hobbs | kergoth: sweet indeed. I'm running rc1 now. |
| 00:39.12 | hardwire | I wasn't planning on it |
| 00:39.14 | Twiun | I forsee wonka taking a while yet |
| 00:39.21 | hobbs | kergoth: and not a segfault in sight. |
| 00:39.22 | *** join/#openzaurus umopapisdn (unknown@c-fec271d5.023-4-67626715.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 00:39.30 | kergoth | hobbs: glad to hear it |
| 00:39.32 | kergoth | hey umopapisdn |
| 00:40.01 | umopapisdn | hey kergoth, how are things going ? |
| 00:41.15 | kergoth | not too bad |
| 00:41.21 | kergoth | you? |
| 00:42.54 | hardwire | anybody wanna go out to eat? |
| 00:42.57 | umopapisdn | just fine. So how's the .19 kernel working out? lots missing still? |
| 00:42.58 | kergoth | GRR |
| 00:43.02 | kergoth | umopapisdn: getting there |
| 00:43.10 | kergoth | umopapisdn: only a few major items left |
| 00:43.25 | nagROM | opie-qpdf doesn't rotate |
| 00:43.52 | kergoth | nagROM: report it in the opie bts |
| 00:44.07 | nagROM | are there any other pdf viewers? |
| 00:44.20 | lsmith | hancom word can display them iirc |
| 00:44.30 | kergoth | opera can too, right? |
| 00:44.43 | lsmith | ah ... then it was opera and not hancom word |
| 00:45.00 | nagROM | i dn't have opera. i'm in oz. |
| 00:45.07 | nagROM | don't. |
| 00:45.49 | lsmith | one of the bunch from the sharp rom anyways :-) |
| 00:45.49 | lsmith | nagROM: you can still grab opera if you want |
| 00:45.49 | umopapisdn | kergoth: did someone rewrite the keyboard driver, or did you port the old driver? |
| 00:45.49 | lsmith | its a bit of a hassle if you havent run the creator script while you were still on the sharp rom |
| 00:45.52 | lsmith | but you can still do it |
| 00:45.53 | kergoth | umopapisdn: rewrote. |
| 00:46.04 | nagROM | where can i grab opera? |
| 00:46.06 | kergoth | umopapisdn: works flawlessly, and nothing is hardcoded. you dont like fn+shift+c being control+c, you can change it. |
| 00:46.18 | TheMasterMind1 | w00t |
| 00:46.26 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: ? |
| 00:46.26 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm 39% through this patch |
| 00:46.37 | TheMasterMind1 | lucky me |
| 00:46.37 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: hah |
| 00:46.37 | lsmith | there are guides (i think there is a faw entry on oz.org) that explains how to do it |
| 00:46.44 | lsmith | you will need a linux box with cramfs support (so any half way recent will do) |
| 00:47.10 | kergoth | HEY PIG. HEY PIG PIGGY PIG PIG PIG |
| 00:47.12 | kergoth | heheh |
| 00:47.39 | lsmith | turn it up! :-) |
| 00:47.47 | hobbs | kergoth: further down? |
| 00:48.07 | umopapisdn | kergoth: nice! But is there anything left (with the kernel) that looks like it's gonna be a problem so far? |
| 00:48.21 | kergoth | umopapisdn: audio drivers yet remain, but pnis is working on that |
| 00:48.26 | kergoth | umopapisdn: battery status, but i'm nearly done with that |
| 00:48.35 | kergoth | umopapisdn: touchscreen primarily |
| 00:48.49 | nagROM | can i break opera out of the sharp rom that isn't installed on my zaurus? |
| 00:49.05 | hobbs | nagROM: yes. and it's in the FAQ. but it's not simple. :) |
| 00:49.28 | lsmith | nagROM: thats is what i was reffering to |
| 00:49.36 | lsmith | you can mount the sharp rom on a linux box |
| 00:49.40 | kergoth | you let me violate you. you let me desecrate you. you let me penetrate you. you let me complecate you. HELP ME! |
| 00:49.41 | lsmith | and then rip opera |
| 00:49.43 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:49.50 | lsmith | with a bit of work |
| 00:50.16 | umopapisdn | kergoth: will things be alot easier to port to a future 2.6.x kernel later when you have completed the 2.4.19 port? |
| 00:50.20 | TheMasterMind1 | 44% |
| 00:50.23 | TheMasterMind1 | this makes me sick |
| 00:50.23 | kergoth | umopapisdn: yep |
| 00:50.33 | lsmith | umopapisdn: or so goes the theory :-) |
| 00:50.36 | kergoth | umopapisdn: quite a bit of hte 2.5 work is already done from my previous work as well |
| 00:50.42 | umopapisdn | hehe |
| 00:50.43 | kergoth | umopapisdn: and the rest could be easily ported forward |
| 00:50.48 | nagROM | is there any way to crack the rom without romburst. no linux here. |
| 00:50.52 | nagROM | cept on the zaurus. |
| 00:51.02 | kergoth | nagROM: copmile romburst for arm |
| 00:51.02 | umopapisdn | TheMasterMind1: what kind of fun are you up to? :) |
| 00:51.05 | kergoth | nagROM: :D |
| 00:51.20 | lsmith | nagROM: you can mount the sharp rom on your Z |
| 00:51.29 | lsmith | remember your Z is a linux box :-) |
| 00:51.33 | kergoth | heheh |
| 00:51.35 | badalex|dinner | where is zremote, the one you install for lirc? |
| 00:51.42 | kergoth | badalex|dinner: included with lirc. |
| 00:51.48 | kergoth | badalex|dinner: no icon, run it from console |
| 00:51.49 | hobbs | badalex|dinner: in package lirc, apparently. |
| 00:51.53 | badalex|dinner | ok |
| 00:51.57 | nagROM | umm. don't have a way to compile romburst for arm. |
| 00:51.57 | badalex|dinner | thanks |
| 00:52.16 | kergoth | nagROM: then just loopback mount it directly |
| 00:52.16 | hobbs | I'm not seeing a /dev/lirc node, though. Anyone know the major/minor offhand? |
| 00:52.28 | kergoth | hobbs: its in oz-base in unstable, i dunno it offhand |
| 00:53.06 | hobbs | kergoth: aah. running testing. |
| 00:53.06 | lsmith | nagROM: google is your friend |
| 00:53.34 | kergoth | GRRRRRRRR |
| 00:53.36 | kergoth | !! |
| 00:53.42 | kergoth | this fucking rom wont boot |
| 00:53.45 | nagROM | can somone just send me the ipk for opera? i would be their best buddy. |
| 00:53.53 | kergoth | always hangs after running the final rcS script |
| 00:53.58 | nagROM | and mail them some christmas cookies. |
| 00:54.47 | kergoth | gahhhhhh |
| 00:54.50 | umopapisdn | hobbs: 61,0 |
| 00:54.50 | kergoth | this sucks |
| 00:55.00 | nagROM | also does anyone know if anyone has tried to upgrade the ram in the 5500? |
| 00:55.02 | lsmith | sorry ... cant help you ... then there is always the option of flashing back to the stock rom |
| 00:55.03 | *** topic/#openzaurus by hobbs -> OpenZaurus project - http://www.openzaurus.org/ | opensource java for oz coming REAL soon | OpenZaurus 3.1 release candidate 1 is now available. Testers wanted! http://www.openzaurus.org/oz_website/content/download?release_id=3 | lirc works - "ipkg install lirc; zremote;" in console -- don't use opie-remote! (mknod /dev/lirc c 61 0)| buildroot protocol errors? use "bk parent bk://openzaurus@openzaurus.bkbits.net/buildroot" and try again |
| 00:55.10 | kergoth | ? |
| 00:55.22 | hobbs | kergoth: found it about the same time. :) |
| 00:55.40 | kergoth | cool cool |
| 00:55.44 | lsmith | ripping everything (opera, hancom and jeode etc.) |
| 00:55.47 | lsmith | and going back |
| 00:55.51 | nagROM | guess i will just switch back to the sharp rom and grab what i need. |
| 00:55.57 | nagROM | thanks for the help. |
| 00:56.01 | kergoth | FUCK |
| 00:56.03 | kergoth | BOOT |
| 00:56.04 | kergoth | damn you! |
| 00:56.16 | umopapisdn | kergoth: kick it too! :) |
| 00:58.34 | lsmith | shit |
| 00:58.34 | lsmith | need to go to bed |
| 00:58.34 | TheMasterMind1 | wtf, only 52% |
| 00:58.34 | TheMasterMind1 | jeez |
| 00:58.34 | kergoth | you know, its hard to finish coding something |
| 00:58.40 | kergoth | when you cant test cause it wont fucking boot |
| 00:59.02 | TheMasterMind1 | try an older initrd |
| 00:59.42 | kergoth | i know an older one will work |
| 00:59.51 | kergoth | its something in the packages in this one |
| 00:59.54 | kergoth | i just cant figure out what |
| 01:00.03 | kergoth | I'm thinking its oz-base, i adapted it to devfs |
| 01:00.09 | kergoth | so it doesnt mount a ramdisk on /dev and untar the devices now |
| 01:00.33 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 01:00.36 | kergoth | kernel automounts devfs, so the devices should exist, and the first script symlinks the rest of the devices we need.. but it still hangs |
| 01:00.42 | kergoth | its obviously something device related.. but what.. |
| 01:00.55 | TheMasterMind1 | it hangs before or after symlinks |
| 01:02.22 | kergoth | after |
| 01:02.26 | kergoth | it gets done with -all- the rcS scripts |
| 01:02.31 | kergoth | all the way through package reconfiguring |
| 01:02.33 | kergoth | and then hangs solid |
| 01:04.45 | beattie | would enabbling kernel debuging on the serial console help? |
| 01:05.11 | hobbs | really weird. I'd blame devfs, because it's easy. :) |
| 01:06.40 | kergoth | beattie: probably a good idea. maybe its panic'ing |
| 01:08.02 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:08.11 | beattie | I also think you can send a break and get into a debug mode to look a a few things |
| 01:08.25 | kergoth | you're probably tinking of hte kernel sysrq key |
| 01:08.33 | kergoth | I havent bothered setting up HOME to behave as sysrq yet |
| 01:08.39 | hobbs | break on the serial console is a sysrq. yeah. |
| 01:08.39 | kergoth | course you can sysrq over serial just fine |
| 01:08.43 | kergoth | yeap |
| 01:08.46 | kergoth | :) |
| 01:09.03 | mickeyl | kergoth: do you have an alternative location for the sharp kernel-sources handy? |
| 01:09.21 | kergoth | mickeyl: tronical mentioned they're on community.zaurus.com now |
| 01:09.32 | Twiun | Anyone know why this: |
| 01:09.33 | Twiun | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:09.33 | Twiun | would give me this? |
| 01:09.33 | Twiun | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:09.46 | Twiun | note the first (nil) |
| 01:09.55 | kergoth | sounds like img is NULL |
| 01:10.00 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:10.09 | Twiun | nah,nah... img is 1234 |
| 01:10.10 | tronical | kergoth, mickeyl: yes, although it looks like the patch from there can't be dropped in right away ;( |
| 01:10.18 | kergoth | er |
| 01:10.19 | kergoth | yeah, i'm blind |
| 01:10.30 | kergoth | tronical: hmm |
| 01:10.40 | kergoth | well in a week we'll be on 2.4.19 anyway |
| 01:10.42 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:10.45 | Twiun | kergoth: ever seen this before? |
| 01:10.46 | tronical | yay :) |
| 01:10.59 | mickeyl | arm... this new site is crowded... i liked the old one better... sharp really should hire a web designer |
| 01:11.01 | kergoth | Twiun: cant say that i have |
| 01:11.12 | kergoth | mickeyl: yes, they should |
| 01:11.18 | Twiun | kergoth: freaky shit going on in my Z |
| 01:11.30 | kergoth | mickeyl: they only had sniper (marketing) doing the frontend stuff afaicr |
| 01:11.35 | kergoth | mickeyl: heh. |
| 01:12.29 | mickeyl | kergoth: btw - who made openzaurus.org? nice layout. is this a css template or hardcoded tables? |
| 01:12.42 | kergoth | mickeyl: css |
| 01:12.48 | kergoth | mickeyl: its noda's work |
| 01:12.55 | Bovine | is irrecord supposed to work? |
| 01:13.05 | mickeyl | kergoth: cool. looks clean and slick. |
| 01:13.17 | kergoth | aha |
| 01:13.19 | kergoth | fucking usbd |
| 01:13.25 | kergoth | was oopsing |
| 01:16.47 | mickeyl | falling asleep also... cu tomorrow |
| 01:17.10 | kergoth | night mickeyl|zZz |
| 01:22.42 | *** join/#openzaurus bisho (~bisho@213-97-191-136.uc.nombres.ttd.es) |
| 01:25.39 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth booting yet? |
| 01:26.50 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: yeah, usbd was panic'ing. forgot about it |
| 01:27.21 | Twiun | kergoth: that printf thing... someone in #c says is possibly heap corruption |
| 01:27.30 | kergoth | Twiun: ack |
| 01:27.52 | Twiun | problem now is that heap checkers aren't too gc-friendly |
| 01:28.11 | ljp | neither are peep checkers |
| 01:28.17 | *** join/#openzaurus hobbs (~andrew@port-55-204-tnt03.avoca.nni.com) |
| 01:29.13 | badalex|dinner | ls |
| 01:29.18 | badalex|dinner | er.. wrong window |
| 01:29.23 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth hehe |
| 01:30.06 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth 95% |
| 01:30.11 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: nice. |
| 01:30.12 | bisho | hi! |
| 01:30.20 | kergoth | hey bisho |
| 01:30.39 | ljp | bashL ls: command not found |
| 01:30.56 | ljp | damn keyboard |
| 01:33.01 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth i talked to dragorn (the kismet guy) and apparently all this scanning stuff lets you use iwspy and iwscan which tell you which aps are around like in windows so you can choose one to connect to. its got nothing to do with the rfmon mode |
| 01:35.54 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: ahh |
| 01:35.59 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: thats pretty sweet too |
| 01:36.03 | TheMasterMind1 | indeed |
| 01:36.13 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: we need a gui for that |
| 01:36.14 | kergoth | !! |
| 01:36.15 | kergoth | heheh |
| 01:36.21 | TheMasterMind1 | patch done |
| 01:36.28 | TheMasterMind1 | *phew* |
| 01:36.43 | TheMasterMind1 | created a patch out of it |
| 01:36.52 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: nice. |
| 01:36.56 | TheMasterMind1 | need to send it into jean when i get a chance |
| 01:37.03 | TheMasterMind1 | ok, now what |
| 01:37.13 | kergoth | where are we at? which patches are applied now? |
| 01:37.21 | TheMasterMind1 | i guess i'll apply the rfmon and make that compatible with the new stuff |
| 01:37.29 | TheMasterMind1 | just the wireless extensions patch is done |
| 01:37.34 | kergoth | gotcha |
| 01:37.35 | kergoth | cool |
| 01:37.38 | kergoth | yep, rfmon is next |
| 01:37.46 | kergoth | is spectrum_cs applied or is that still held off? |
| 01:37.49 | kergoth | i dont fucking remember anymore |
| 01:37.51 | kergoth | too much shit going on |
| 01:39.19 | TheMasterMind1 | spectrum_cs is just some extra files that go into the same dir |
| 01:39.22 | TheMasterMind1 | not really a patch |
| 01:39.49 | TheMasterMind1 | but the code in it.. it probably needs patching so it works with the new stuff too |
| 01:40.05 | TheMasterMind1 | or maybe that code just loads the firmware and orinoco does the rest |
| 01:40.06 | TheMasterMind1 | i don't remember |
| 01:41.23 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 01:41.27 | TheMasterMind1 | is there something wrong with this: |
| 01:41.33 | TheMasterMind1 | #if WIRELESS_EXT > 13 |
| 01:42.00 | hobbs | looks fine to me. |
| 01:42.02 | kergoth | looks fine to me |
| 01:42.04 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:42.05 | kergoth | :) |
| 01:42.15 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 01:42.18 | TheMasterMind1 | why doesn't it like it |
| 01:42.24 | TheMasterMind1 | parse error before union |
| 01:42.29 | TheMasterMind1 | the next line is union int |
| 01:42.47 | TheMasterMind1 | err, next line is union iwreq_data wrqu; |
| 01:43.09 | hobbs | TheMasterMind1: is the # in column 0? |
| 01:44.00 | TheMasterMind1 | yep |
| 01:44.41 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm, its not that |
| 01:44.46 | TheMasterMind1 | i put something above the union |
| 01:44.53 | TheMasterMind1 | still, it complains about the unino |
| 01:44.58 | TheMasterMind1 | parse error before union |
| 01:46.26 | TheMasterMind1 | bah, wtf |
| 01:46.39 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: #include'ng something odd? |
| 01:46.57 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 01:47.00 | TheMasterMind1 | this is C |
| 01:47.06 | TheMasterMind1 | you cant define shit in the middle of code |
| 01:47.11 | kergoth | ? |
| 01:47.22 | kergoth | ah, thats not at the beginning of a block? |
| 01:47.25 | kergoth | that'd do it |
| 01:47.43 | walters | TheMasterMind1: actually in C99 you can :) |
| 01:48.15 | kergoth | walters: that doesnt help us in ansi c :) |
| 01:48.32 | TheMasterMind1 | w00 |
| 01:48.36 | TheMasterMind1 | it compiled |
| 01:48.39 | TheMasterMind1 | shweet |
| 01:48.47 | TheMasterMind1 | now, off to dinner and then back to work on the rest of it :) |
| 01:48.58 | Dessimat0r | kernel ETA, sires? |
| 01:49.03 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: great |
| 01:50.07 | *** join/#openzaurus bbeattie (~bbeattie@cpe-66-1-180-69.ut.sprintbbd.net) |
| 01:50.59 | walters | hmm...is there a usbdnet patch for 2.4.20? or will the 2.4.19 patch work well enough? |
| 01:51.30 | kergoth | walters: dont use usbdnet |
| 01:51.33 | kergoth | walters: use usbnet |
| 01:51.45 | kergoth | walters: search the linux-usb-devel mailing list archives |
| 01:52.21 | walters | so I don't have to do this stuff in http://zauruszone.com/howtos/lc_generic.shtml ? |
| 01:53.11 | walters | i have CONFIG_USB_USBNET enabled... |
| 01:53.51 | *** join/#openzaurus rabbit_uk (~chatzilla@host81-7-63-117.surfport24.v21.co.uk) |
| 01:54.30 | kergoth | walters: you need to patch 2.4.20. |
| 01:54.35 | walters | ok... |
| 01:54.35 | kergoth | walters: stock usbnet doesnt support the Z |
| 01:54.42 | walters | got a URL? |
| 01:54.44 | kergoth | walters: the patch is in the linux-usb-devel ml archives |
| 01:54.49 | kergoth | google |
| 01:56.05 | TheMasterMind1 | usbf is so kickass |
| 01:56.11 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:56.33 | walters | argh, galeon-snapshot hung on the thread index page. grr. |
| 01:56.59 | badalex | hrm, so what exactly is tinyx? |
| 01:57.04 | kergoth | X. |
| 01:57.24 | badalex | oh, why call it tiny x? |
| 01:57.28 | badalex | because its small |
| 01:57.29 | badalex | lol |
| 01:57.30 | kergoth | its tiny |
| 01:57.35 | kergoth | ~lart badalex |
| 01:57.46 | badalex | cool |
| 01:58.02 | badalex | so if i installed "tiny"x and icewm then i could use icewm... right lol |
| 01:58.34 | badalex | ~lart badalex |
| 01:58.52 | walters | is it this patch? http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-usb-devel&m=103988073307253&w=2 |
| 02:00.40 | kergoth | walters: you need to apply this one on top of the previous one |
| 02:01.35 | *** join/#openzaurus victorvdl (~victorvdl@ip237.124-173-207.eli-du.nwlink.com) |
| 02:04.01 | walters | hmm... |
| 02:04.13 | walters | i can't seem to find the original patch in the marc.theaimsgroup.com archives |
| 02:04.19 | walters | http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-usb-devel&w=2&r=1&s=zaurus&q=b |
| 02:04.55 | walters | do you guys all just have 802.11b or something? |
| 02:05.08 | kergoth | http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-usb-devel&m=103913004229359&w=2 <-its inside that big patch |
| 02:05.15 | walters | i mean it seems to me this patch should be linked to rather prominently in the openzaurus install instructions... |
| 02:05.42 | kergoth | http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-usb-devel&m=103679596705336&w=2 <-the original |
| 02:05.49 | kergoth | walters: it has nothing to do with oz. |
| 02:05.53 | kergoth | walters: its a general zaurus thing |
| 02:05.59 | kergoth | walters: this works flawless for sharp as well |
| 02:06.05 | walters | ok. |
| 02:06.35 | kergoth | http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-usb-devel&m=199939301556&w=2 <-another patch on top of the original to remove the crc duplication |
| 02:06.47 | kergoth | though that one could be 2.5, doesnt say |
| 02:07.44 | kergoth | i love the MARC archives |
| 02:08.31 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 02:08.39 | TheMasterMind1 | now it gives tons of errors |
| 02:08.41 | TheMasterMind1 | hooray |
| 02:08.48 | badalex | do the bass and trebile controls on the sound applet do anyting? |
| 02:09.02 | kergoth | badalex: on the Z? no |
| 02:09.10 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: errors where? |
| 02:09.12 | badalex | kergoth: yeah on the z, thanks |
| 02:09.22 | walters | hmmm.... |
| 02:09.28 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth rfmon patch messed it all up :) |
| 02:09.28 | walters | kergoth: yeah, that one is 2.5 |
| 02:09.35 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: fun |
| 02:11.26 | hobbs | If you just use 2.5 or 2.4-bk, then you don't have to do all that thinking. :) |
| 02:11.36 | kergoth | heheh |
| 02:11.38 | kergoth | yeap |
| 02:11.54 | kergoth | or walters could just use 2.4.21-pre/rc |
| 02:11.59 | kergoth | which includes the Z usbnet patch |
| 02:12.00 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:12.12 | walters | kergoth: i have to use the benh linux tree |
| 02:12.34 | kergoth | then a-patching you will go |
| 02:12.34 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:12.36 | hobbs | something's really broke in my /etc/init.d |
| 02:12.37 | walters | kergoth: i suppose i could get 2.4.21-pre and extract a diff. |
| 02:12.44 | kergoth | hm, unresolved symbols are fun |
| 02:13.09 | TheMasterMind1 | bbeattie nope, never have. talk to pnis about it when he's on, he's the devel |
| 02:13.17 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth what now? |
| 02:13.34 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: hostap unresolved symbols, i think i just needed to rebuild the kernel after making a couple changes that changed the kernel ABI |
| 02:13.38 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: bout to confirm |
| 02:13.49 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 02:14.04 | *** part/#openzaurus badalex (~badalex@cpe-66-1-177-91.ut.sprintbbd.net) |
| 02:21.39 | kergoth | grr! |
| 02:22.38 | TheMasterMind1 | grrr |
| 02:23.12 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: any luck on the orinoco/spectrum patch madness? |
| 02:24.42 | ljp | be sure and add treble and bass to the sound driver while your there :) |
| 02:24.55 | ljp | err mixer |
| 02:26.20 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth yea, making progress |
| 02:27.00 | kergoth | whee |
| 02:27.04 | kergoth | no more unresolved symbols in hostap |
| 02:27.36 | *** join/#openzaurus jurrie (~jurrie@66.169.184.16) |
| 02:27.36 | kergoth | course i dont have an AP here |
| 02:27.37 | kergoth | but still |
| 02:27.38 | kergoth | :) |
| 02:27.57 | TheMasterMind1 | and it builds! |
| 02:27.59 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 02:28.00 | TheMasterMind1 | sweet |
| 02:28.05 | TheMasterMind1 | i doubt it will work, but it builds! |
| 02:28.13 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: nice. |
| 02:28.22 | jurrie | what're ya building? |
| 02:28.34 | victorvdl | is the initrd.bin in oz.org/official/testing the same as 3.1rc1? |
| 02:28.39 | kergoth | jurrie: absolute latest wireless drivers |
| 02:28.45 | kergoth | victorvdl: they're one and the same |
| 02:28.51 | kergoth | victorvdl: the main download link downloads that exact file |
| 02:28.52 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:29.01 | victorvdl | Ok... |
| 02:29.08 | TheMasterMind1 | heh, and absolute latest means i'm making half of the code up and i very much doubt it will work |
| 02:29.23 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:29.26 | kergoth | hey, never know |
| 02:30.14 | TheMasterMind1 | damn |
| 02:30.22 | TheMasterMind1 | more crap notworking in spectrum code |
| 02:30.25 | TheMasterMind1 | time to fix |
| 02:30.35 | TheMasterMind1 | and i use the term fix very lightly |
| 02:34.10 | kergoth | whee |
| 02:34.12 | kergoth | i have wlan0 |
| 02:34.14 | kergoth | and can iwconfig it |
| 02:34.20 | TheMasterMind1 | argh |
| 02:34.22 | kergoth | but thats about all i can test really.. with no AP |
| 02:34.24 | TheMasterMind1 | not fair |
| 02:34.26 | kergoth | hmm |
| 02:34.31 | beattie | kergoth: I'm trying to understand what needs to be done with the touch screen, is it verifying/porting the hardware interface? |
| 02:34.48 | kergoth | beattie: there is no touchscreen driver that works for the Z in 2.4.19 afaik |
| 02:34.56 | kergoth | beattie: you can either port over the collie one from 2.4.6 |
| 02:35.07 | kergoth | beattie: or, you can look at the existing ucb1x00 ts driver, and alter it |
| 02:35.09 | jurrie | hokay... so far the only things that are bothering me with OZ/OPIE is network configuration (I need to switch between different configs) and stable graphical browser. Network config (though not ideal) was a more pleasant user experience with the Sharp image. I should try to see if there's a newer Opera packager that'll snag the icons as well. |
| 02:35.22 | kergoth | beattie: as we use the ucb1x00 core code to access teh tc35143af chip, which does the TS on the Z |
| 02:35.40 | kergoth | jurrie: network config is more pleasant with sharp? how so? |
| 02:36.31 | jurrie | I didn't have to mess with /etc/resolv.conf.... just plugged in different settings for each location and life was good |
| 02:36.51 | kergoth | jurrie: the resolv.conf bug has been fixed for a while now |
| 02:36.56 | kergoth | jurrie: just wasnt in the released image |
| 02:37.03 | jurrie | with OZ/OPIE I have to go through hoops to get things working |
| 02:37.08 | jurrie | ah... is it in unstable? |
| 02:37.10 | kergoth | wtf are you talking about? |
| 02:37.14 | kergoth | theres one bug you have to work around |
| 02:37.17 | kergoth | bug fucking deal |
| 02:37.19 | kergoth | opie isnt released, fyi. |
| 02:37.26 | kergoth | its a product in -active- development |
| 02:37.32 | kergoth | and has never released a stable version |
| 02:37.56 | jurrie | I realize.... just feeding back what I'm seeing in testing and selected bits from unstable |
| 02:38.14 | kergoth | and i know about the bugs |
| 02:38.20 | kergoth | they're in the bug tracking system, if you'd bother looking |
| 02:38.21 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:38.31 | jurrie | there... feel better now? :-) |
| 02:38.36 | kergoth | ? |
| 02:39.10 | kergoth | what the fuck |
| 02:39.11 | kergoth | shit shit |
| 02:39.15 | kergoth | something is wrong with the keymap |
| 02:39.33 | TheMasterMind1 | eh? |
| 02:40.06 | kergoth | ah, an uncommitted change |
| 02:41.02 | beattie | I have wireless and an AP if a tester is needed |
| 02:41.17 | kergoth | beattie: hold, i'll upload the zImage and initrd |
| 02:41.21 | kergoth | beattie: :) |
| 02:41.54 | kergoth | beattie: what card? |
| 02:42.05 | TheMasterMind1 | alright |
| 02:42.07 | TheMasterMind1 | it compiled |
| 02:42.15 | TheMasterMind1 | lets see if it works (yea, right) |
| 02:42.18 | beattie | DLink dcf-650 |
| 02:42.29 | kergoth | beattie: great, prism2 based, thats what i needed. brb |
| 02:42.32 | beattie | prism2 card |
| 02:42.40 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth where do i find the iw* utils? are they on that initrd? |
| 02:42.55 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: wireless-tools? |
| 02:42.59 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i'll upload a new initrd |
| 02:43.06 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: fully stocked .. ssh, wireless-tools, etc |
| 02:43.09 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: no usbd |
| 02:43.32 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 02:43.35 | TheMasterMind1 | bueno |
| 02:44.56 | TheMasterMind1 | so usbd is just dead? |
| 02:45.33 | kergoth | for now |
| 02:45.37 | kergoth | until i get back to fixing it |
| 02:45.59 | TheMasterMind1 | heh, poor usbd. oh well, we'll use usbf |
| 02:46.46 | TheMasterMind1 | where do these modules go |
| 02:46.49 | TheMasterMind1 | i forget |
| 02:47.35 | TheMasterMind1 | dammit~ |
| 02:47.38 | TheMasterMind1 | unresolved symbols!! |
| 02:47.40 | TheMasterMind1 | bah! |
| 02:47.49 | kergoth | having fun yet? |
| 02:48.23 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 02:48.27 | TheMasterMind1 | wireless_send_event |
| 02:48.33 | TheMasterMind1 | maybe thats' in the new wireless stuff |
| 02:48.33 | TheMasterMind1 | eh? |
| 02:48.38 | kergoth | probably |
| 02:48.44 | TheMasterMind1 | hook me up |
| 02:48.45 | kergoth | you'll need to build it against the new tree |
| 02:48.53 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 02:48.54 | TheMasterMind1 | new? |
| 02:49.05 | kergoth | 2.4.19.. you're building it in the buildroot or what? |
| 02:49.08 | kergoth | the orinoco modules |
| 02:49.20 | kergoth | if you're building them in the buildroot, its building it against staging, which is the 2.4.6 headers.. |
| 02:49.25 | TheMasterMind1 | yea, i'm building against my .19 tree |
| 02:49.25 | kergoth | unless you built 2.4.19 in the buildroot |
| 02:49.27 | kergoth | ah |
| 02:49.42 | kergoth | 2.4.19 in bkbits has the changesets with the new wireless extensions |
| 02:49.47 | kergoth | check your include/linux/wireless.h |
| 02:49.50 | TheMasterMind1 | i thought i pulled those |
| 02:49.51 | TheMasterMind1 | maybe not |
| 02:50.04 | kergoth | wireless.h will tell ya |
| 02:51.09 | TheMasterMind1 | 16 |
| 02:51.59 | TheMasterMind1 | i need to flash a new kernel too right? |
| 02:52.09 | kergoth | yeah |
| 02:52.12 | kergoth | you need a kernel w/ 16 |
| 02:52.16 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 02:52.17 | kergoth | thats why i was getting them too |
| 02:52.25 | TheMasterMind1 | anything need to enable to build wireless stuff |
| 02:52.28 | TheMasterMind1 | in config |
| 02:52.41 | kergoth | under network.. wireless adapters.. enable wireless |
| 02:52.44 | kergoth | afaicr |
| 02:53.37 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 02:54.52 | TheMasterMind1 | i need wireless tools 25 too |
| 02:54.56 | TheMasterMind1 | gimme initrd |
| 02:55.15 | kergoth | yep, i'm uploading it all now |
| 02:55.17 | kergoth | a kernel and a initrd |
| 02:55.21 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 02:55.27 | kergoth | the kernel doesnt have usbf, so use your own if you want that |
| 02:55.41 | TheMasterMind1 | yea, i will |
| 02:55.44 | TheMasterMind1 | i just need initrd |
| 02:56.25 | TheMasterMind1 | you still need my ssh key? |
| 02:56.36 | kergoth | yeah, right now you dont have bk push access to buildroot |
| 02:56.42 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 02:56.43 | kergoth | identity.pub |
| 02:56.45 | kergoth | throw it to my email |
| 02:57.43 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1, beattie: new zImage and initrd.bin in unofficial/experimental/kernel/ |
| 02:57.45 | TheMasterMind1 | sent |
| 02:58.10 | kergoth | beattie: please test wireless. note you'll need to either config manually with iwconfig and ifconfig, or edit /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts and /etc/network/interfaces |
| 02:58.21 | kergoth | beattie: also, rm -f /etc/pcmcia/prism2.conf, it will interfere |
| 02:58.25 | TheMasterMind1 | i thought no more wirelessopts? |
| 02:58.34 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: have to, thats what networksetup uses |
| 02:58.48 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: once networksetup supports interfaces for wireless, great |
| 02:58.52 | TheMasterMind1 | hmmk |
| 02:58.56 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i'll put in what we need to use it |
| 02:59.00 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: but the gui wont use it yet |
| 02:59.03 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 02:59.07 | TheMasterMind1 | sounds good |
| 03:00.22 | beattie | kergoth: ok, where is the zImage/initrd.bin? |
| 03:00.24 | kergoth | something's weird with the new pcmcia-cs, it looks for a stab or scheme file in a odd path |
| 03:00.36 | kergoth | beattie: http://openzaurus.org/unofficial/experimental/kernel/ |
| 03:01.45 | kergoth | beattie: remember to /etc/init.c/pcmcia restart after removing prism2.conf to update its card information |
| 03:03.58 | TheMasterMind1 | is it possible to get to the underside of the z's screen? |
| 03:04.09 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: for what? |
| 03:04.17 | TheMasterMind1 | there's this weird mark on mine |
| 03:04.25 | kergoth | its fully enclosed |
| 03:04.28 | kergoth | vacuum sealed |
| 03:04.30 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:04.34 | TheMasterMind1 | damn |
| 03:04.43 | TheMasterMind1 | i think something got in there and scratched it |
| 03:04.47 | TheMasterMind1 | its so annoying |
| 03:07.07 | TheMasterMind1 | i hate to setup QoS |
| 03:07.16 | TheMasterMind1 | my brother is leechign all my download speed |
| 03:07.22 | kergoth | ahh |
| 03:07.29 | TheMasterMind1 | i can't even use ssh without massive lagging |
| 03:07.32 | TheMasterMind1 | its worse than dialup |
| 03:07.34 | TheMasterMind1 | argh |
| 03:07.46 | kergoth | hah |
| 03:11.08 | beattie | TheMasterMind1: trip over his power cord :) |
| 03:11.20 | kergoth | beattie: flashed it yet? </pester> |
| 03:11.22 | kergoth | beattie: :) |
| 03:11.57 | beattie | initrd.bin 12% |
| 03:12.02 | kergoth | cool |
| 03:12.08 | kergoth | i'm really curious to see if this owrks |
| 03:12.11 | kergoth | changed so many things |
| 03:12.18 | kergoth | first, this is the first test of wireless in 2.4.19 |
| 03:12.23 | kergoth | second, wireless extensions were upgraded to 16 |
| 03:12.29 | kergoth | third, went from old hostap to latest |
| 03:12.31 | kergoth | :) |
| 03:13.26 | hobbs | aren't we adventurous. |
| 03:13.30 | TheMasterMind1 | booting |
| 03:13.51 | kergoth | hobbs: not particularly :) |
| 03:13.55 | beattie | well I've got some experience with hostap so we should be able to get this running :) |
| 03:13.58 | TheMasterMind1 | heh, you should hear what all i had to do to get this orinoco/spectrum stuff to compile |
| 03:14.24 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i bet |
| 03:14.30 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i looked at the code, it wasnt pleasant stuff |
| 03:14.33 | beattie | are there any orinoco CF cards? |
| 03:14.42 | kergoth | beattie: some orinoco based |
| 03:15.33 | beattie | it's so hard to know what's in these things, and some change with no indication |
| 03:16.36 | kergoth | indeed |
| 03:16.46 | hobbs | what's that ethernet card that's famous for having like 4 different chips, in the same named card? |
| 03:16.51 | hobbs | intel ee100 ? |
| 03:17.04 | TheMasterMind1 | argh |
| 03:17.10 | TheMasterMind1 | MORE unresolved symbols |
| 03:17.11 | kergoth | probably the realtek 8139. there are an assload of versions of it in 2.5 |
| 03:17.13 | TheMasterMind1 | argh |
| 03:17.14 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: what symbols? |
| 03:17.16 | TheMasterMind1 | whats netdog |
| 03:17.21 | kergoth | netdog? hmm |
| 03:17.25 | kergoth | grep -nr is your friend :) |
| 03:17.26 | TheMasterMind1 | skb_over_panic |
| 03:17.37 | TheMasterMind1 | eth_type_trans |
| 03:17.42 | TheMasterMind1 | softnet_data |
| 03:17.45 | TheMasterMind1 | alloc_skb |
| 03:17.47 | TheMasterMind1 | argh |
| 03:17.48 | kergoth | softnet? |
| 03:17.53 | kergoth | i got that when i was on a old kernel |
| 03:18.05 | kergoth | did you flash with a fresh build from the v16 wireless extensions tree? |
| 03:18.10 | kergoth | do a make clean, then build it |
| 03:18.15 | TheMasterMind1 | i did |
| 03:18.25 | kergoth | dunno then.. that solved mine |
| 03:18.37 | *** join/#openzaurus yesicanabus (mike411@h111.186.40.162.ip.alltel.net) |
| 03:18.46 | yesicanabus | any one know a good program to format flash cards with ? |
| 03:18.56 | kergoth | yesicanabus: http://zauruszone.com/howtos |
| 03:18.58 | kergoth | yesicanabus: rtfm |
| 03:19.11 | TheMasterMind1 | wow |
| 03:19.14 | TheMasterMind1 | did he just ask that? |
| 03:19.19 | kergoth | yes. |
| 03:19.22 | kergoth | i dont know how to answer that |
| 03:19.23 | TheMasterMind1 | wow |
| 03:19.24 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:19.29 | kergoth | mkfs!!!! |
| 03:19.33 | kergoth | ~lart yesicanabus |
| 03:22.09 | TheMasterMind1 | yay |
| 03:22.12 | TheMasterMind1 | only one symbol |
| 03:22.17 | kergoth | nice |
| 03:23.48 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 03:23.51 | TheMasterMind1 | init is complaining |
| 03:23.56 | TheMasterMind1 | 4 and 0 respawning too fast |
| 03:23.57 | kergoth | ? |
| 03:23.58 | TheMasterMind1 | whats that |
| 03:24.04 | kergoth | ah, gettys on two serial ports |
| 03:24.06 | kergoth | harmless |
| 03:26.15 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm wtf |
| 03:26.32 | TheMasterMind1 | spectrum_cs.o complains about missing symbol orinoco_reset |
| 03:26.33 | yesicanabus | is there a program to format a cf card to fat16 from windows? |
| 03:26.38 | TheMasterMind1 | but that's in orinoco.o |
| 03:26.41 | TheMasterMind1 | i vimmed and checked |
| 03:26.43 | TheMasterMind1 | its there! |
| 03:26.44 | TheMasterMind1 | its there!! |
| 03:27.00 | TheMasterMind1 | yesicanabus no, there isn't |
| 03:27.35 | *** join/#openzaurus datapurge (root@12-212-106-59.client.attbi.com) |
| 03:28.08 | walters | ok, rebooting to test these usb networking patches.... |
| 03:29.00 | TheMasterMind1 | ITS THERE I TELL YOU, ITS THERE |
| 03:29.04 | TheMasterMind1 | its not unresolved |
| 03:31.16 | kergoth | beattie: still d/lin? |
| 03:31.43 | beattie | 46% |
| 03:35.21 | TheMasterMind1 | lol |
| 03:35.24 | TheMasterMind1 | man |
| 03:35.25 | TheMasterMind1 | wtf |
| 03:35.31 | TheMasterMind1 | why is it unresolved |
| 03:36.37 | *** join/#openzaurus walters (walters@verbum.org) |
| 03:37.11 | walters | yay, it works. |
| 03:38.13 | kergoth | :) |
| 03:40.05 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth why is it saying its unresolved? |
| 03:40.19 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: because its unresolved.. |
| 03:40.22 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: what -exactly- is the symbol? |
| 03:40.26 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: any characters after it? |
| 03:40.43 | TheMasterMind1 | orinoco_reset_R8e7821d1 |
| 03:41.01 | TheMasterMind1 | it exists in orinico.o too but depmod doesn't complain about that one |
| 03:41.21 | kergoth | okay, so that module thinks its different than it actually is |
| 03:41.27 | kergoth | maybe the header doesnt match the implementation |
| 03:42.26 | TheMasterMind1 | afaict it does |
| 03:42.28 | walters | hm, well, i can ping the zaurus at least. |
| 03:42.32 | *** join/#openzaurus zeronett (~zeronett@c68.114.243.89.fdl.wi.charter.com) |
| 03:42.36 | walters | now...i am still clueless as to how to get files over... |
| 03:42.44 | TheMasterMind1 | scp |
| 03:42.53 | walters | my zaurus isn't running ssh |
| 03:42.57 | walters | at least according to nmap |
| 03:43.08 | hobbs | walters: or, nfs-mount your desktop from the zaurus (or, with more work, the other way around) |
| 03:43.20 | TheMasterMind1 | then run OZ, it has ssh |
| 03:43.20 | walters | ok... |
| 03:43.29 | walters | TheMasterMind1: that's exactly what i'm trying to do! |
| 03:43.36 | walters | TheMasterMind1: but there is a bootstrapping problem, you see. |
| 03:43.50 | walters | the OZ isntallation instructions casually refer to using ssh or ftp |
| 03:44.07 | TheMasterMind1 | ?? |
| 03:44.14 | walters | but i have no idea how to get to ftp or ssh from this pile of proprietary crap that came with my zaurus. |
| 03:44.35 | kergoth | walters: ftp to port 4242 |
| 03:45.25 | walters | ah, that's right, nmap only scans 1-1024 by default. |
| 03:48.50 | walters | is there a username/password? |
| 03:49.51 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth hmm, wtf. if i pull my Z's power out, it turns off |
| 03:50.00 | TheMasterMind1 | not charging? |
| 03:50.16 | walters | hmm |
| 03:50.29 | walters | actually my zaurus appears to shutdown the connection instantly |
| 03:50.30 | beattie | now we have a real power switch! |
| 03:51.46 | TheMasterMind1 | walters settings->security |
| 03:52.03 | walters | TheMasterMind1: ok... |
| 03:52.13 | walters | TheMasterMind1: all i see there is options to change and clear my passcode |
| 03:52.55 | walters | man |
| 03:53.02 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: no, we arent charging |
| 03:53.04 | walters | is there even a terminal in the default installation? |
| 03:53.07 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: thats in the battery code i'm doing right now |
| 03:53.11 | kergoth | walters: yes |
| 03:53.11 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 03:53.19 | kergoth | walters: oh you mean sharp |
| 03:53.21 | kergoth | walters: no |
| 03:53.22 | kergoth | walters: heh |
| 03:53.25 | walters | damn it. |
| 03:53.48 | walters | i get this: |
| 03:53.57 | walters | walters@space-ghost> telnet 192.168.129.201 4242 . |
| 03:53.57 | walters | Trying 192.168.129.201... |
| 03:53.57 | walters | Connected to 192.168.129.201. |
| 03:53.57 | walters | Escape character is '^]'. |
| 03:53.57 | walters | Connection closed by foreign host. |
| 03:54.08 | TheMasterMind1 | walters you have to get a dhcp ip from the zaurus |
| 03:54.11 | TheMasterMind1 | or else its weird |
| 03:54.15 | walters | TheMasterMind1: ok...... |
| 03:54.51 | walters | ok, it gave me an ip |
| 03:54.55 | walters | but it still closes the connection instantly. |
| 03:55.12 | TheMasterMind1 | ok, then the sharp rom just sucks |
| 03:55.18 | walters | i realize this :) |
| 03:55.23 | walters | that's why i am trying to get rid of it. |
| 03:55.29 | TheMasterMind1 | go buy a cf card reader |
| 03:55.33 | TheMasterMind1 | :) |
| 03:55.37 | walters | mmm |
| 03:55.49 | kergoth | gahh |
| 03:55.54 | hobbs | walters: do this. |
| 03:55.56 | walters | and then i could take out the builtin rom and overwrite it with stuff? |
| 03:56.18 | hobbs | walters: exit Qtopia, do the slash - a trick to get to a console. log in as root. |
| 03:56.39 | hobbs | walters: vi /etc/inetd.conf, and use the 'x' key to remove the # from the line about in.telnetd, then killall -HUP inetd |
| 03:56.53 | walters | hobbs: ok, i have no idea how to exit Qtopia, and i don't know anything about a "slash - a trick" |
| 03:57.06 | hobbs | walters: settings->shutdown, Terminate Qtopia. |
| 03:57.17 | hobbs | walters: when it says "Wait..." hit slash. then, hit 'a'. |
| 03:57.37 | walters | "In a normal environment, these concepts are unnecessary" |
| 03:57.38 | walters | haha |
| 03:58.09 | walters | hm..."slash a"...reminds me of 'stop a' to get into sun openfirmware. |
| 03:58.36 | walters | ok |
| 03:58.37 | walters | good |
| 03:58.40 | walters | that got me something useful |
| 03:58.59 | walters | ahhhh |
| 03:59.01 | TheMasterMind1 | argh. stupid spectrum driver!!!! |
| 03:59.02 | walters | a root prompt. |
| 03:59.03 | walters | good. |
| 03:59.09 | walters | hobbs: thank you! |
| 03:59.31 | walters | just for future reference, is there a good place to find out stuff like this? |
| 03:59.37 | hobbs | walters: edit /etc/inetd.conf, uncomment the line about in.telnetd, killall -HUP inetd, and then you can telnet in. then, it's not so hard. :) |
| 03:59.45 | hobbs | walters: I forget. I learned it from somewhere, though. |
| 04:00.06 | walters | hey neat...the default sharp rom is based on Debian? |
| 04:00.31 | walters | mmm...running vi on this feels weird |
| 04:00.33 | hobbs | walters: somewhat. It's based on Embedix. OZ is even more Debian-flavored, though. :) |
| 04:03.46 | walters | hmmm |
| 04:05.31 | walters | ok, rock |
| 04:05.38 | walters | "init 5" got me back into the desktop |
| 04:05.44 | hobbs | and it's cool. :) |
| 04:05.45 | walters | networking wasn't working unless i did that |
| 04:05.52 | walters | now telnet works yep |
| 04:06.00 | beattie | kergoth`brb: burning now |
| 04:06.10 | walters | hm...although it asks me for a root password over telnet |
| 04:06.15 | walters | going to have to fix that |
| 04:06.45 | hobbs | walters: oops. |
| 04:06.45 | hobbs | walters: I forgot a step. |
| 04:06.45 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth`brb where'd you go? |
| 04:06.59 | walters | hobbs: no matter, i'll just vi /etc/passwd |
| 04:07.01 | hobbs | walters: get back to console and rm /etc/securetty |
| 04:07.08 | walters | that works too |
| 04:07.28 | hobbs | walters: nono, it's not that. :) |
| 04:08.30 | walters | oh, right... |
| 04:08.46 | *** join/#openzaurus yesicanabus (mike411@h111.186.40.162.ip.alltel.net) |
| 04:08.57 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: store, to get coke |
| 04:09.02 | walters | hm, some scary stuff in / |
| 04:09.07 | yesicanabus | hey after the mail and power lights go out am i suposed to wate for a while before i reset the z? |
| 04:09.24 | kergoth | yesicanabus: nope. dont need to. |
| 04:09.36 | kergoth | yesicanabus: just full reset, then boot |
| 04:09.47 | yesicanabus | ok well im haveing problems geting it to work still. |
| 04:10.26 | yesicanabus | i just installed the sharp rom from the cf card and it started doing stuff right after the mail and power lights went off |
| 04:11.26 | kergoth | sounds like you didnt rename zImage-blah.bin to zImage |
| 04:11.34 | kergoth | or you did so in windows, with it hiding file extensions |
| 04:11.35 | yesicanabus | yep it is renamed |
| 04:11.50 | yesicanabus | and i can see my file extenshons so its not that |
| 04:12.04 | kergoth | well i dunno what to tell you then |
| 04:12.25 | yesicanabus | i have zImage.bin and initrd.bin |
| 04:12.35 | hobbs | It should be zImage |
| 04:12.46 | kergoth | its zImage |
| 04:12.47 | kergoth | RTFM |
| 04:12.49 | kergoth | :) |
| 04:13.07 | yesicanabus | oh no .bin on the end? |
| 04:13.11 | kergoth | right. |
| 04:13.17 | kergoth | go _read_ the install guide |
| 04:13.17 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:13.38 | yesicanabus | oh damn ok. u might want to point that out in the how to just so people like me dont bug u all day hehe |
| 04:13.46 | kergoth | huh? |
| 04:13.52 | kergoth | we _do_ point it out |
| 04:13.52 | kergoth | go _read_ |
| 04:13.55 | yesicanabus | is the other one suposed to be .bin |
| 04:13.58 | yesicanabus | ok let me look |
| 04:13.58 | kergoth | yes. |
| 04:14.20 | beattie | kergoth: how do I enable login on the serial port? |
| 04:14.38 | yesicanabus | ok yea it say just "zImage" but u might want to make sure and say no extenshon just to make sure |
| 04:14.48 | kergoth | beattie: vi /etc/inittab .. change the tts/0 to read ttySA0, then exit and save, and run 'init q' |
| 04:14.52 | kergoth | yesicanabus: huh? |
| 04:14.59 | kergoth | yesicanabus: we tell you that it must be named exactly this |
| 04:15.04 | kergoth | yesicanabus: how is that hard to understand? |
| 04:15.11 | walters | hmm |
| 04:15.15 | walters | the sharp rom has no /usr/sbin/in.ftpd |
| 04:15.18 | walters | sweet. |
| 04:15.22 | hobbs | yesicanabus: but if there were an extension, it wouldn't be "zImage" |
| 04:15.28 | kergoth | hobbs: exactly |
| 04:15.32 | kergoth | it would be zImage.bin |
| 04:15.44 | hobbs | kergoth: windows people aren't used to taking things literally. :) |
| 04:15.44 | kergoth | definately a case of PEBKAC |
| 04:15.47 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:15.48 | yesicanabus | yea i supose. most windows users arnt used to no extenshon hehe |
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| 04:16.28 | kergoth | yesicanabus: i'm afraid your assumptions arent my problem. the document is clear. |
| 04:16.38 | kergoth | asshole mode.. on. |
| 04:16.49 | kergoth | beattie: any luck on the wireless front? |
| 04:16.59 | yesicanabus | i know im just leting u know that some people might not pick up on it right away |
| 04:17.13 | kergoth | yesicanabus: right, because they dont read, or cant understand a very clear document |
| 04:17.19 | kergoth | yesicanabus: not my problem. |
| 04:17.26 | beattie | hang on, my por aging eyes need the serial port :) |
| 04:17.32 | kergoth | beattie: ah. hehe. |
| 04:17.46 | kergoth | beattie: i should release some kernels with the stock 8x8 font |
| 04:17.49 | kergoth | beattie: :) |
| 04:18.06 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth everything's fucked up. i commented out the orinoco_reset calls and it loads, but i can't seem to ping to or from and monitor mode doesn't work either |
| 04:18.20 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: its probably pretty important to reset the card |
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| 04:24.30 | walters | ftp> open 192.168.129.1 |
| 04:24.30 | walters | Segmentation fault |
| 04:24.30 | walters | root@zaurus> |
| 04:25.28 | kergoth | walters: wget it |
| 04:25.36 | walters | yeah, good idea. |
| 04:27.30 | *** join/#openzaurus jbwiv (~jb@68.155.200.217) |
| 04:27.43 | beattie | kergoth: we'll just ship oz with a magnifying glass |
| 04:27.45 | jbwiv | hey guys...is there an ftp mirror where I can download initrd.bin for rc1? |
| 04:27.58 | kergoth | beattie: hehe |
| 04:28.05 | kergoth | jbwiv: no, only http atm |
| 04:28.13 | jbwiv | my dsl keeps dropping halfway through the http download, so I'd like to use ftp with autoresume... |
| 04:28.24 | kergoth | wget can resume.. |
| 04:28.39 | jbwiv | really? cool. I'll take a look. thx |
| 04:28.46 | hobbs | I resumed my download about 7 times. :) |
| 04:28.52 | kergoth | grr, this driver is such crap |
| 04:28.54 | beattie | kergoth: I'm now trying to get the CF card loaded |
| 04:28.58 | kergoth | i need to figure out how to teach it sanity |
| 04:29.41 | jbwiv | hobbs or kergoth: don't happen to know what flag I should look for on wget man, do you? |
| 04:29.57 | jbwiv | ah, just found it. nm |
| 04:30.25 | hobbs | jbwiv: -c |
| 04:32.27 | beattie | kergoth: it associated with my AP |
| 04:32.36 | kergoth | beattie: woo |
| 04:32.55 | kergoth | :) |
| 04:33.24 | beattie | I'm gonna mess with the options a little |
| 04:33.28 | kergoth | k |
| 04:38.11 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth hm, read the zaurus.com dev board |
| 04:38.29 | TheMasterMind1 | couple people reporting that flashing works with old zimage but fails with new |
| 04:38.31 | TheMasterMind1 | weird stuff |
| 04:38.45 | TheMasterMind1 | actually, it might just be one person |
| 04:40.08 | beattie | kergoth: this initrd have the dhcp client |
| 04:40.43 | walters | ok |
| 04:40.48 | walters | i wrote up a little howto |
| 04:40.50 | walters | http://people.debian.org/~walters/zaurus.html |
| 04:40.57 | walters | so you can refer people to that later if you like. |
| 04:41.15 | hobbs | walters is a debian people, eh? |
| 04:41.34 | walters | nah, i just play one on the internet :) |
| 04:41.42 | beattie | kergoth: except for the dhcp client, looks like it works |
| 04:41.51 | hobbs | walters: good enough for me. :) |
| 04:42.40 | hobbs | walters: nifty css on the h2's. simple, but smooth. |
| 04:42.48 | walters | thanks |
| 04:42.53 | walters | yeah it's my general style |
| 04:42.59 | kergoth | beattie: udhcpc -i wlan0 doesnt obtain an ip? |
| 04:43.10 | kergoth | beattie: :) |
| 04:43.25 | hobbs | I'm trying to get good at this stuff, and write CSS that doesn't suck. |
| 04:43.40 | walters | CSS is pretty cool |
| 04:43.47 | beattie | kergoth: just FYI, first time I tried to boot it hung on the CF card |
| 04:43.56 | kergoth | beattie: hm, thats odd, didnt here |
| 04:44.05 | kergoth | beattie: note the messages overwrite the login prompt.. you wont see a login, just hit enter |
| 04:46.19 | walters | hmm |
| 04:46.29 | walters | when i just tried to use 'reboot' from the prompt my zaurus froze |
| 04:46.36 | walters | and the right side of the screen got white |
| 04:46.41 | walters | the font became funky too. |
| 04:46.42 | beattie | kergoth: maybe it didn't hang. the dhcp option in network/interfacse did not seem to find an address,I'll try udhcpc -i wlan0 |
| 04:46.51 | kergoth | sounds like the imfamous reboottwice in a row without suspending hang |
| 04:47.00 | walters | kergoth: ah. |
| 04:47.02 | kergoth | walters: suspend at least once prior to reboot, good general policy |
| 04:47.05 | walters | kergoth: indeed i did. |
| 04:47.47 | hobbs | kergoth: that's strange, is that what triggers it? |
| 04:48.02 | kergoth | yep |
| 04:48.05 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth wonder if that bug is gone in new kernel |
| 04:48.05 | hobbs | kergoth: I thought it was rebooting on the cradle that did it, but I guess on the cradle is where I'm most likely to reboot and least likely to suspend. |
| 04:48.07 | kergoth | its a weird bug, likely a kernel bug |
| 04:48.10 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: good question |
| 04:48.22 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: probably |
| 04:48.27 | TheMasterMind1 | hopeso |
| 04:48.34 | TheMasterMind1 | this damn orinoco stuff is pissing me off |
| 04:48.45 | TheMasterMind1 | the light on the card blinks so i guess i'm making progress |
| 04:48.51 | ||ugh | WHAT! Kergoth, you have to be joking. We can't tell John Q. Public to allways suspend befor rebooting. Thats just silly. |
| 04:49.09 | beattie | kergoth: info, udhcp client (v0.9.8) started |
| 04:49.10 | beattie | error, FATAL: couldn't listen on socket, Address family not supported by protocol |
| 04:49.11 | TheMasterMind1 | ||ugh it happens on the sharp rom too so stfu |
| 04:49.22 | kergoth | beattie: hm, i think we need to enable an option in our kernel config |
| 04:49.31 | kergoth | ||ugh: not OZ specific. |
| 04:49.38 | kergoth | ||ugh: its likely a flaw in the lineo kernel code. |
| 04:49.53 | TheMasterMind1 | beattie can you ping stuff? |
| 04:50.01 | ||ugh | If the RZ does it too then it's a deep probem, true. Sounds like some hwardware is not getting programed in some dumb way. Urgh. No fun to find. |
| 04:50.06 | walters | hm, had to take the battery out to shut it down :/ |
| 04:50.15 | walters | this apparently reverted it to the initial state. |
| 04:50.16 | kergoth | ||ugh: its likely a _kernel_ bug |
| 04:50.23 | kergoth | ||ugh: may go away with the new kernel |
| 04:50.32 | TheMasterMind1 | walters yes, the sharp rom loves you |
| 04:50.33 | beattie | TheMasterMind1: sure thing |
| 04:50.39 | TheMasterMind1 | beattie damn |
| 04:50.43 | walters | TheMasterMind1: so i have discovered. |
| 04:50.53 | ||ugh | I look forward to your new kernel in general. Go for it Kergoth. |
| 04:51.11 | kergoth | ? |
| 04:51.13 | kergoth | well no shit i'm going for it |
| 04:51.18 | kergoth | i've been working on it for nearly a week now |
| 04:51.20 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:51.41 | TheMasterMind1 | ~lart ||ugh |
| 04:51.48 | kergoth | hah, no mojo for you |
| 04:52.10 | kergoth | beattie: hmm, i'm sure we just need to enable a network option |
| 04:52.14 | beattie | TheMasterMind1: I can slogin |
| 04:52.15 | kergoth | beattie: i.e. packet socket is disabled atm |
| 04:52.42 | beattie | kergoth: other than dhcp it's all working |
| 04:52.59 | kergoth | beattie: great, thats a load off my back, now i can drop hostap and finish this ugly as sin battery code |
| 04:53.05 | beattie | I'm loged into the AP via the Z |
| 04:53.12 | kergoth | nice |
| 04:53.19 | bisho | bye! |
| 04:53.25 | bisho | I'm going to sleep... |
| 04:53.42 | walters | ok...instead of rebooting i will tell people to just 'exit' |
| 04:53.48 | beattie | now I'll see if I can figure out the touchscreen stuff |
| 04:53.49 | walters | that seemed to work |
| 04:54.33 | kergoth | updated our news page |
| 04:55.36 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 04:55.41 | TheMasterMind1 | i'll come back to this tommorow |
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| 04:55.52 | hobbs | walters: yeah, 'exit' or just 'qt qt' |
| 04:55.53 | TheMasterMind1 | think i'll watch a movie now |
| 04:56.15 | hobbs | I'm working on transcoding some episodes of Futurama to watch on the Z. |
| 04:57.31 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: cool, ttyl |
| 05:05.16 | TheMasterMind1 | wow, i can play dvds |
| 05:05.18 | TheMasterMind1 | i had no idea |
| 05:05.21 | TheMasterMind1 | mplayer rocks |
| 05:06.32 | walters | so...i need a compactflash card to use openzaurus? |
| 05:06.54 | kergoth | you need it to install, not to use |
| 05:06.58 | kergoth | read the faq. |
| 05:08.21 | hobbs | so you can borrow one for a day if necessary. |
| 05:08.22 | *** join/#openzaurus sandman__ (~sandman@pD9E8B475.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 05:08.27 | hobbs | having one makes it a lot more fun though. |
| 05:10.18 | walters | i see, ok. |
| 05:13.05 | hobbs | actually, before I got this one, I was just going to snag one from a friend for a few days. |
| 05:13.45 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i think you've got the right idea. if i stare at this piece of shit spaghetti code any longer i'm going to kill something. |
| 05:13.56 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: you know that "check backup battery!" message? |
| 05:14.04 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: it doesnt mean anything. its useless. |
| 05:16.32 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 05:16.37 | hobbs | I'm just going to go to bed. But yeah, kergoth, take a break and have a beverage. |
| 05:16.38 | kergoth | there are like 12 unused functions in this |
| 05:16.45 | kergoth | hobbs: good idea :) sleep well |
| 05:17.23 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth heh |
| 05:17.26 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth figures |
| 05:17.40 | hobbs | kergoth: will do. |
| 05:17.48 | hobbs | and, thanks OZ and opie crews. :) |
| 05:18.11 | TheMasterMind1 | hehe |
| 05:18.28 | hobbs | the liquid menus are sweet if you make them blue and like 25% opaque. |
| 05:30.53 | nagROM | seems like the z runs slower with liquid. |
| 05:31.13 | nagROM | i use the flat one. |
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| 05:33.05 | hobbs | I forgot to set 'noauto' on my /mnt/net, and now the Z is trying to mount an nfs export at boot, when there's no net. |
| 05:33.17 | hobbs | Will this time out eventually? And is there some way I can kill it sooner? |
| 05:34.50 | smbj | ouch |
| 05:36.26 | hobbs | it's been sitting here for a while, I'm not completely sure it'll ever time out. |
| 05:39.29 | zeronett | is there a way to turn a computer w/ a wireless card into an access point? |
| 05:40.12 | smbj | yeah, it's called ad hoc |
| 05:40.29 | zeronett | will that allow me to share the internet connection as well? |
| 05:41.41 | walters | so if i wanted to use both 802.11b and a memory expansion at the same time, I'd have to get the memory as secure digital? |
| 05:42.08 | walters | since I only see CF 802.11b adapters |
| 05:43.29 | hobbs | anyway -- it's alright, I did sysrq-E early in the boot and edited fstab. |
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| 05:44.27 | walters | what's the sysrq key out of curiosity? |
| 05:44.35 | hobbs | home |
| 05:44.46 | hobbs | I think that's oz kernels only. |
| 05:44.52 | walters | appears so yeah |
| 05:45.12 | walters | does oz linux support SD? |
| 05:45.20 | nagROM | sure does. |
| 05:45.24 | walters | cool. |
| 05:45.47 | walters | any recommendations for a place to get SD memory? |
| 05:45.51 | walters | (online) |
| 05:45.54 | nagROM | and it will take care of all your girlfriends obgyn needs too. |
| 05:45.59 | nagROM | thats the power of oz. |
| 05:46.04 | walters | nagROM: excellent |
| 05:46.14 | nagROM | www.buy.com |
| 05:46.22 | hobbs | Have I really lost 3 styli since 12/25 ? I can't find any. |
| 05:46.27 | nagROM | thats where i buy everything. |
| 05:46.33 | hobbs | wait, here's one. |
| 05:46.36 | walters | nagROM: ok... |
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| 05:46.44 | nagROM | i don't even use i a stylus anymore. |
| 05:46.46 | walters | woah |
| 05:46.51 | walters | someone who actually uses the mozilla irc client |
| 05:46.54 | walters | scary :) |
| 05:47.13 | nagROM | mozilla has an irc client? |
| 05:47.13 | dep | grin |
| 05:47.15 | beattie | i prefer mmc to sd. there might be an open source driver for mmc, but less likely fro sd |
| 05:47.33 | nagROM | i thought oz supported sd? |
| 05:47.35 | walters | beattie: the slot on the side of the zaurus is SD though right? |
| 05:47.39 | hobbs | chatzilla is pretty awful to use, though. |
| 05:47.46 | beattie | sd/mmc |
| 05:47.48 | nagROM | it does. my card is mmc. |
| 05:47.57 | beattie | with a binary only driver |
| 05:47.58 | nagROM | mmc seems to be a little faster. |
| 05:47.59 | walters | so sd and mmc are basically the same? |
| 05:48.09 | hobbs | nagROM: I always heard it was considerably slower. |
| 05:48.27 | nagROM | seems a little faster to me. |
| 05:48.27 | beattie | hobbs: only in theory |
| 05:48.52 | hobbs | "the difference between theory and practice is small in theory, but large in practice" --who said that? |
| 05:48.54 | beattie | the Z does not have hw to support faster access |
| 05:49.08 | hobbs | beattie: aah, I gotcha. |
| 05:49.19 | hobbs | so the mmc is actually marginally faster because it's simpler? |
| 05:49.26 | nagROM | heh. i may just be crazy though. |
| 05:49.43 | beattie | I'm not sure of the performance difference |
| 05:49.43 | nagROM | but as long as i think it. it's true to me. |
| 05:49.57 | hobbs | o/~ you may be right o/~ I may be crazy o/~. Mmm. Want to hear that now. |
| 05:49.58 | beattie | but it is not great by all reports |
| 05:50.11 | nagROM | hobbs. good song. |
| 05:50.27 | nagROM | ok. it's time to go waste more money making a girl happy. |
| 05:51.32 | hobbs | anyway, I guess it's time to go back to bed now that I've solved my latest crisis. |
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| 06:28.29 | smbj | damn modem |
| 06:34.40 | walters | emacs rules. |
| 06:37.15 | smbj | i'm actually liking it, which is weird :P |
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| 10:39.04 | Onyx4 | h |
| 10:39.06 | Onyx4 | hi |
| 10:40.01 | Onyx4 | I can't pull from bk anymore... strange |
| 10:40.09 | Onyx4 | it ask me for a password like if my ssh key isn't recongnized |
| 11:21.17 | tronical | hm, anyone able to build pcmcia in latest oz source tree? |
| 11:25.29 | Onyx4 | what's the problem |
| 11:26.07 | Onyx4 | I just built it now and it worked fine |
| 11:26.26 | tronical | hmm, the config patch does not apply here ;( |
| 11:26.38 | tronical | patching file etc/config |
| 11:26.39 | tronical | Hunk #2 FAILED at 1150. |
| 11:26.42 | tronical | (and more) |
| 11:27.08 | Onyx4 | mmm try make SUBDIRS=pacakges/pcmcia-cs mrproper package |
| 11:27.23 | Onyx4 | if you haven't updated in a while maybe cause of that, we changed to 3.2.3 pcmcia |
| 11:27.58 | Onyx4 | bbl |
| 11:28.15 | tronical | hmm |
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| 12:00.34 | AndyQ | hello |
| 12:00.42 | mark | hi AndyQ |
| 12:04.03 | mark | ibot: pico |
| 12:04.05 | | hmm... pico is a text editor used by people incapable of writing files with cat or in this package http://unc.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/zaurus/zutilsvol1.zip |
| 12:04.06 | mark | ibot: picogui |
| 12:04.08 | | rumour has it, picogui is an small and scalable embedded GUI. More info in the #picogui channel or at http://picogui.org. Read the FAQ or not pico gui or pico-gui or even cooler than sliced cheese or see "picogui faq" |
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| 12:18.29 | AndyQ | hey ljp |
| 12:21.18 | ljp | hi |
| 12:22.10 | AndyQ | ljp: did you install SFCAve-sdl? |
| 12:23.31 | ljp | yes, it wouldnt run |
| 12:24.30 | AndyQ | ljp: hmmm - did you try starting it from the console? |
| 12:24.35 | ljp | ya |
| 12:24.40 | AndyQ | ljp: any errors? |
| 12:24.44 | ljp | I forget the error |
| 12:24.48 | ljp | hang on |
| 12:24.49 | AndyQ | hehe |
| 12:27.02 | ljp | image is a null image segmentation fault |
| 12:27.11 | AndyQ | oooo shit! |
| 12:27.24 | AndyQ | ljp: where did you install it to? |
| 12:28.07 | ljp | /mnt/card |
| 12:28.32 | AndyQ | ljp: ok, could you do an ls /mnt/card/opt/QtPalmtop/pics/sfcave/data |
| 12:29.11 | AndyQ | and you should have the following pics: score_font.bmp sfcave_text.bmp unsel_menu_font.bmp sel_menu_font.bmp title_font.bmp |
| 12:30.22 | ljp | I dont have the _text |
| 12:30.45 | AndyQ | Ahhh k - let me check my ipk file..... |
| 12:32.31 | AndyQ | ljp: hmmmmm the ipkg has the correct files - I'll just re-upload it to my feed |
| 12:35.13 | AndyQ | ljp: OK, uploaded, installed and tested on my Z. could you give it a try? |
| 12:35.36 | Twiun | mornin' |
| 12:35.43 | AndyQ | morning |
| 12:43.36 | mark | hiay Twiun |
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| 12:49.24 | Toasty | Does Opie use the same ftp daemon as the default Qtopia environment on the Z? |
| 12:50.11 | ljp | there is no ftpdaemon. opie/qpe _is_ the ftp server |
| 12:51.07 | Toasty | Can that be downloaded seperately from the rom? |
| 12:52.39 | ljp | you can update the qpe binary |
| 12:56.00 | Toasty | so qpe is the binary for the file? And the product is called opie/qpe? |
| 12:58.47 | Toasty | I'm trying to find another ftp server for the zaurus, other than the default and Trolltech's ftpd. |
| 12:58.59 | Toasty | I need it to be able to run on Qtopia, though |
| 13:01.45 | ljp | the ftp server that syncs is not a real ftp server. whats wrong with tt's ftpd? |
| 13:03.02 | Toasty | Well whenever I connect (in pasv or not) I can't retrieve a dir listing. |
| 13:03.08 | Toasty | The error is 502-PORT/EPRT is disabled for security reasons. |
| 13:03.08 | Toasty | 502 Please use PASV/EPSV instead ("passive on") |
| 13:03.08 | Toasty | 425 No data connection: Illegal seek |
| 13:03.41 | tronical | Toasty: that's because you didn't enable passive mode :) |
| 13:04.08 | Toasty | Yes I did, actually |
| 13:04.27 | Toasty | I've used WS-FTP and Win2000's command line ftp. Neither works |
| 13:05.16 | Toasty | could it be the clients? |
| 13:05.27 | Twiun | what command are you using to get listings? |
| 13:05.33 | Twiun | LIST or ls? |
| 13:06.24 | Toasty | I used ls |
| 13:06.31 | Toasty | and dir |
| 13:08.05 | Twiun | could always use one of the ftp daemons from the debian ARM ports I suppose |
| 13:08.54 | Toasty | Ok, I'll try that. Thanks a lot! |
| 13:12.34 | Twiun | lol, now I've got a zombified gdb on my Z |
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| 14:01.20 | tronical | stupid bk question: how do I undo a 'bk new' ? if I 'bk rm' the file it appears as added-and-then-removed in the commit. but I want to to not appear at all :) |
| 14:05.33 | ljp | 3 gb cf cards? |
| 14:10.21 | TheMasterMind1 | yo |
| 14:10.29 | AndyQ | Hi |
| 14:11.04 | TheMasterMind1 | tronical rm file; bk undo file; gets rid of changes to a file |
| 14:11.12 | TheMasterMind1 | i've never used bk new.. |
| 14:11.16 | TheMasterMind1 | always just use bk add |
| 14:11.48 | tronical | ohh, I see. thanks! |
| 14:12.37 | TheMasterMind1 | np |
| 14:12.43 | TheMasterMind1 | what're you working on? |
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| 14:14.35 | Dessimat0r | lo all :D |
| 14:14.39 | tronical | trying to fix the 2.4.6 kernel build. sharp removed the patch from more.sbc.co.jp . there is a new one on community.zaurus.com, but using it requires further adaptions (although it's a better patch in the sense that for example it includes 5500G support (keymap) ) . so I thought it'd be nicer for now to add the old working patch to the repos, until 2.4.19 arrives :) |
| 14:14.42 | AndyQ | Hey Dessimat0r |
| 14:15.03 | tronical | but I bk new'ed in the wrong directory ;) |
| 14:15.07 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: I collapsed under pressure and SFCave looks very purdy in its multicolour glory |
| 14:15.16 | Dessimat0r | AndyQ: ooh :D |
| 14:15.27 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: download 0.3 from my feed :) |
| 14:15.33 | Dessimat0r | url? |
| 14:15.37 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 14:15.38 | AndyQ | ibot AndyQ |
| 14:15.44 | | hmm... andyq is the guy who wrote AQPkg and the marvellous SFCave and his feed is at http://andyq.myby.co.uk/feed |
| 14:15.46 | TheMasterMind1 | tronical oh, nice. so we have 5500G support now. anything else new in this patch? |
| 14:16.03 | Dessimat0r | lol, what is the filename? |
| 14:16.22 | AndyQ | http://andyq.myby.co.uk/downloads/sfcave-sdl_0.3_arm.ipk |
| 14:16.26 | Dessimat0r | k |
| 14:16.35 | tronical | TheMasterMind1: haven't looked much closer |
| 14:16.42 | Dessimat0r | you should put an index.php script in there, just listing the contents of the dir ;) |
| 14:17.58 | TheMasterMind1 | or a .htaccess enabling listings |
| 14:18.07 | Dessimat0r | ah, better idea ;) |
| 14:18.33 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: what should go in the .htaccess file? |
| 14:22.38 | Dessimat0r | AndyQ: I get a segfault upon executing sfcave_sdl after upgrading the package |
| 14:22.56 | AndyQ | Arse! |
| 14:22.59 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 14:23.00 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: where did you install it to? |
| 14:23.03 | Dessimat0r | cf |
| 14:23.07 | Dessimat0r | as always |
| 14:23.17 | Dessimat0r | cf is ext2 |
| 14:23.20 | Dessimat0r | ;) |
| 14:23.22 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: OK, could you tell me the contents of /mnt/cf/opt/QtPalmtop/pics/sfcave/data |
| 14:23.25 | Dessimat0r | k |
| 14:25.12 | Dessimat0r | # ls /mnt/cf/opt/QtPalmtop/pics/sfcave/data |
| 14:25.12 | Dessimat0r | score_font.bmp sfcave_text.bmp unsel_menu_font.bmp |
| 14:25.12 | Dessimat0r | sel_menu_font.bmp title_font.bmp |
| 14:25.40 | AndyQ | hmmmmmmm |
| 14:25.55 | AndyQ | OK, do the same in /opt/QtPalmtop/pics/sfcave/data |
| 14:26.02 | Dessimat0r | k |
| 14:26.12 | tronical | Dessimat0r: how do you flash if your cf is ext2? (or rather: is there a way to? :) |
| 14:26.27 | Dessimat0r | # ls /opt/QtPalmtop/pics/sfcave/data |
| 14:26.27 | Dessimat0r | score_font.bmp title_font.bmp |
| 14:26.27 | Dessimat0r | sel_menu_font.bmp unsel_menu_font.bmp |
| 14:26.32 | Dessimat0r | i have another cf |
| 14:26.34 | Dessimat0r | ;) |
| 14:26.47 | AndyQ | Ahhh - Thats the problem - Dess, uninstall and re-install |
| 14:26.56 | tronical | Dessimat0r: ahh. cheater ;) |
| 14:26.58 | Dessimat0r | k |
| 14:27.00 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 14:29.52 | Dessimat0r | i forgot to put soy sauce into my pot noodle! |
| 14:29.57 | AndyQ | hehe |
| 14:29.58 | Dessimat0r | done it now |
| 14:29.59 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 14:30.05 | AndyQ | don't you just hate it when that happens |
| 14:30.06 | Dessimat0r | after eating some |
| 14:30.10 | Dessimat0r | yeah lol |
| 14:30.11 | AndyQ | ping ljp |
| 14:30.30 | ljp | yo |
| 14:30.46 | Dessimat0r | AndyQ: omg, looks cool! |
| 14:30.46 | AndyQ | ljp: I found out why your SFCave-sdl is seg faulting |
| 14:30.54 | Twiun | anyone have dmalloc for the Z by any chance? |
| 14:30.56 | AndyQ | ljp: you need to uninstall it and then reinstall it |
| 14:31.00 | Twiun | (or equivalent) |
| 14:31.00 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: :) |
| 14:31.22 | AndyQ | ljp: a wee bug in AQPkg in that new files aren't linked on an upgrade |
| 14:32.06 | Dessimat0r | AndyQ: you now need the top and bottom filling in ;) |
| 14:32.35 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: Thought about that - isn't hard but would probably slow things down a lot |
| 14:33.02 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: coz its made of lots of little lines and I'd need to do fileld rectangles instead of lined |
| 14:33.06 | AndyQ | lines |
| 14:33.25 | Dessimat0r | hmm |
| 14:33.27 | ljp | and my version of aqpkg only removes files from /opt* when installed to /mnt/card/opt/* |
| 14:33.38 | ljp | when uninstalling |
| 14:34.01 | Dessimat0r | AndyQ: found out how to double buffer yet? |
| 14:34.02 | AndyQ | ljp: yeah - thats correct isn't it |
| 14:34.10 | ljp | dunno |
| 14:34.30 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: It is doublebuffering - its just because its moving - for some reason SDL does some strange things |
| 14:34.32 | ljp | my up doesnt work |
| 14:34.37 | Dessimat0r | h |
| 14:34.38 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: Not sure it I can fix it |
| 14:34.39 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 14:34.46 | AndyQ | ljp: go down instead :) |
| 14:35.08 | ljp | thats all it will do there's no control |
| 14:35.20 | AndyQ | ljp: press the middle button |
| 14:35.26 | ljp | I am |
| 14:35.36 | ljp | it will start it fine |
| 14:36.23 | AndyQ | ljp: hmmmmmmmm |
| 14:36.35 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: does your up work OK? (ship goes up)? |
| 14:37.48 | Dessimat0r | er.. the Z suspended and resumed while SFcave was running, now i cannot do anything ;) |
| 14:38.10 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: hehe |
| 14:38.19 | Dessimat0r | my Up does not work in SFCave |
| 14:38.20 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 14:38.47 | AndyQ | must have broken something |
| 14:38.53 | AndyQ | strange coz it works fine here |
| 14:39.12 | Dessimat0r | andyQ: with SDL, you could probably do a better explosion effect ;) |
| 14:39.39 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: probably - that comes later |
| 14:39.44 | Dessimat0r | k |
| 14:40.37 | AndyQ | I can't replicate the up not working at all |
| 14:40.54 | AndyQ | removed and reinstalled 0.3 and it works fine |
| 14:42.29 | Dessimat0r | Strange.. |
| 14:42.45 | Dessimat0r | AndyQ: did you execute it from the console? |
| 14:42.52 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: Nope - from the icon |
| 14:42.59 | Dessimat0r | Andy: perhaps it is that |
| 14:43.06 | Dessimat0r | try it from the console |
| 14:43.09 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: k |
| 14:43.23 | Dessimat0r | in the console, up goes through the command history |
| 14:44.09 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: You should be using the middle button |
| 14:45.07 | Dessimat0r | AndyQ: thats what i was using, but you asked me to try out the up button ;) |
| 14:45.26 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: sorry - the up button does sod all during the game :) |
| 14:45.32 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 14:45.34 | Dessimat0r | np |
| 14:46.06 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: One word of warning - DONT press home or the other buttons yet while running SFCave! |
| 14:46.22 | Twiun | oh well... couldn't xcompile dmalloc... time to test on x86 instead |
| 14:46.23 | Dessimat0r | hah |
| 14:46.23 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: I need to disable them |
| 14:46.28 | Dessimat0r | k |
| 14:46.40 | mickeyl | any idea why qDebug could suddenly stop outputting messages? The first few messages come out but then... nothing... and the prog does run, because it also outputs the same messages to a window, which is constantly being updated... hmm.. any idea?? |
| 14:47.50 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: do you know how to allow read access to a directory using .htaccess? |
| 14:51.08 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ <Directory .> \n Options Indexes \n </Directory> |
| 14:51.22 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: Ta |
| 14:53.21 | AndyQ | Hooray - feed directory now available to browse |
| 15:02.54 | Twiun | TheMasterMind1: whatcha think my chances are of compiling dmalloc on the skiffs? |
| 15:03.05 | TheMasterMind1 | *shrug* |
| 15:03.08 | TheMasterMind1 | no debian package? |
| 15:03.21 | Twiun | couldn't find one |
| 15:03.34 | Twiun | but then again, I might have been looking in the wrong place? |
| 15:04.19 | Twiun | hmm... or I might try ElectricFence |
| 15:04.35 | TheMasterMind1 | there is |
| 15:04.43 | TheMasterMind1 | http://packages.debian.org |
| 15:05.11 | Twiun | thanks! (missed this when googling for some reason) |
| 15:05.48 | TheMasterMind1 | debian/pool/main/d/dmalloc/ |
| 15:05.51 | TheMasterMind1 | on any debian mirror |
| 15:06.04 | TheMasterMind1 | grab the dmalloc_..._arm_...deb |
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| 15:07.36 | Twiun | can I get away with renaming to .ipk and using ipkg? |
| 15:17.44 | Twiun | looks like I could ;-) |
| 15:17.45 | mickeyl | hmmm... please remind me... does g++ -g automatically define DEBUG ? |
| 15:18.50 | TheMasterMind1 | Twiun yes, but it'd install crap like man pages |
| 15:22.26 | Twiun | TheMasterMind1: *shrug* this Z is in need of a reflash anyway ;-) |
| 15:22.37 | Twiun | it's not as if I use it as a PDA |
| 15:24.22 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
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| 15:41.30 | kergoth | morning |
| 15:41.41 | AndyQ | hey kergoth |
| 15:41.48 | mickeyl | morning kergoth |
| 15:42.47 | AndyQ | kergoth: saw you kernel update - its looking good! |
| 15:42.55 | AndyQ | kergoth: whats left to do now? |
| 15:43.35 | kergoth | touchscreen, audio, battery (about done).. not much else |
| 15:43.56 | AndyQ | kergoth: good work! eta? |
| 15:44.00 | AndyQ | approx |
| 15:44.25 | AndyQ | kergoth: also, hows the new jffs behaving? |
| 15:45.11 | Twiun | hey kergoth |
| 15:45.48 | Twiun | anyone used ElectricFence before? |
| 15:49.36 | Twiun | ever see it complain like this? |
| 15:49.46 | Twiun | ElectricFence Exiting: mmap() failed: Cannot allocate memory |
| 15:50.09 | tronical | yes |
| 15:50.58 | tronical | it mean you're either out of memory or the address space is used up. for the latter there's a solution by changing a constant in the kernel. let me check |
| 15:51.53 | tronical | err, not out of address space |
| 15:52.08 | tronical | but there was some stupid limit on mmap'able pages IIRC |
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| 15:53.44 | pnis | hi |
| 15:53.46 | Twiun | hey |
| 15:53.52 | pnis | hi Twiun |
| 15:54.07 | pnis | kergoth: might Ihave a question to you ? |
| 15:55.07 | pnis | kergoth: have you used the brand new fine ucb1x00_ functions ? |
| 15:55.27 | pnis | kergoth: do they work the same with little changes? or they are entirely different? |
| 15:55.37 | pnis | kergoth: i mean same as ucb1200_ |
| 15:56.03 | tronical | Twiun: ahh, it was max_map_count. it used to be a hardcoded constant but it's not in /proc/sys/vm/max_map_count . try increasing the value |
| 15:56.11 | tronical | not=now |
| 15:57.12 | Twiun | tronical: can I do that without a kernel rebuild? |
| 15:57.32 | tronical | Twiun: yes, that's why it's a variable in /proc :) |
| 15:58.01 | tronical | Twiun: just do like echo 4294967295 > /proc/sys/vm/max_map_count |
| 15:58.48 | Twiun | tronical: trying now ;-) |
| 15:59.19 | Twiun | hmmm... cannot create /proc/sys/vm/max_map_count: No such file or directory |
| 15:59.31 | tronical | uhm, what kernel are you running? :) |
| 16:00.17 | tronical | hm, apparently too old. I can't remember in which version it got merged from -ac into the trunk though |
| 16:00.33 | Twiun | right... best update to latest OZ then? |
| 16:00.45 | tronical | hmmm, ah, it's on the arm? |
| 16:00.58 | Twiun | as Shayde would say *nodnod* |
| 16:01.11 | Twiun | can't get Wonka compiled on x86 anymore |
| 16:01.15 | tronical | then I guess it's easier to search for the MAX_MAP_COUNT (or the like) constant in the kernel sources (some header file IIRC) , change it and recompile |
| 16:01.16 | Twiun | so I have to debug on the Z |
| 16:05.51 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis sup |
| 16:06.13 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: hi! |
| 16:06.43 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: btw next oz will have kernel 2.4.19 according to plans? |
| 16:06.57 | TheMasterMind1 | whoa |
| 16:06.57 | pnis | kergoth: imho it is quite similar it seems |
| 16:07.00 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis yes |
| 16:07.04 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis kergoth's not here afaik |
| 16:07.29 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: ah ok. never mind |
| 16:07.37 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: I read this fine source |
| 16:07.43 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: very entertaining :) |
| 16:07.50 | TheMasterMind1 | sweet, i found a patched spectrum driver with latest we14 |
| 16:07.52 | TheMasterMind1 | sweeeeeet |
| 16:07.57 | TheMasterMind1 | aw fuck |
| 16:08.00 | TheMasterMind1 | its a 404 |
| 16:08.02 | TheMasterMind1 | dammit dammit dammit |
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| 16:08.08 | tronical | heh |
| 16:08.14 | pnis | ehe |
| 16:08.42 | kergoth | pnis: okay back. yes, its very similar. most of the functions expect a struct ucb1x00, which you obtain with ucb1x00_get(), and afaicr you need to enable the MCP bus prior to doing something with it, and disable after completion |
| 16:08.43 | TheMasterMind1 | DAMMIT |
| 16:08.57 | kergoth | pnis: take a look at the ucb1x00 ts and audio drivers for example usage. |
| 16:09.16 | AndyQ | kergoth: have you used Synaptic? |
| 16:09.20 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth sup |
| 16:09.23 | kergoth | AndyQ: nope, cant say that i have |
| 16:09.25 | kergoth | hey TheMasterMind1 |
| 16:09.33 | AndyQ | kergoth: its a pretty good front end to apt |
| 16:09.34 | TheMasterMind1 | synaptic? sounds like antitrust.. |
| 16:09.48 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth i found a patched we14 spectrum driver, or a link to a page thats supposed to have it anyway.. its a 404 though |
| 16:09.51 | kergoth | AndyQ: curses or X? |
| 16:09.54 | AndyQ | X |
| 16:09.56 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: ack. google for the filename? |
| 16:10.22 | AndyQ | infinitely better than dselect! |
| 16:10.28 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:10.36 | kergoth | i'll stick to aptitude :) i like console tools |
| 16:10.41 | TheMasterMind1 | oh! |
| 16:10.41 | kergoth | just not an X guy most of the time |
| 16:10.43 | TheMasterMind1 | synaptic |
| 16:10.47 | AndyQ | hehe |
| 16:10.47 | TheMasterMind1 | that awesome gui? |
| 16:10.51 | TheMasterMind1 | i saw that once |
| 16:10.53 | kergoth | tronical: that too :) |
| 16:10.54 | TheMasterMind1 | it was sweet |
| 16:10.56 | TheMasterMind1 | never used it though |
| 16:11.22 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: Its pretty good - you can set up filters to show pretty much anything installed, available, etc |
| 16:11.27 | pnis | kergoth: thanks |
| 16:11.30 | TheMasterMind1 | http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/2002-October/002036.html |
| 16:11.42 | kergoth | pnis: np. starting on the tc35143af driver? |
| 16:11.47 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ i was going to tell you to make aqpkg like that but i couldn't remember the name |
| 16:11.48 | pnis | kergoth: yes yes |
| 16:11.51 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth look at that page |
| 16:11.59 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: hehe |
| 16:12.14 | AndyQ | Not enough real estate on the Z to do it |
| 16:12.36 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: that really sucks.. hmm |
| 16:12.41 | pnis | kergoth: have you used these functions already, seen them work with your very eyes ?:) |
| 16:12.47 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth its gotta be on the net somewhere |
| 16:12.53 | TheMasterMind1 | google cache? |
| 16:12.54 | kergoth | pnis: am about to ;) |
| 16:13.09 | pnis | kergoth: cool :) |
| 16:13.27 | pnis | kergoth: if you find something please share it with me - I shall do the same |
| 16:13.36 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache:puHtq9dRPrcC:www.glue.umd.edu/~chus/Spectrum.html+&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 |
| 16:13.48 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth i'm on console, can't do shit |
| 16:13.53 | TheMasterMind1 | i don't wanna type that into links |
| 16:13.56 | pnis | kergoth: ehe I won't find anything, as I haven't loaded 2.4.19 on the Z yet |
| 16:14.05 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth who is this "Jesus" guy who posted that, any idea? |
| 16:14.18 | TheMasterMind1 | oh, his email's there too |
| 16:14.20 | TheMasterMind1 | i'll email him |
| 16:14.23 | TheMasterMind1 | if we can't ifnd it |
| 16:14.41 | kergoth | wioooot |
| 16:14.43 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: got it! |
| 16:14.47 | pnis | by the way is it already a good idea to flash 2.4.19 on my Z if that's my only cf reader atm? |
| 16:14.50 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: the google cache had the link to his new site :) |
| 16:14.53 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: http://www.jesusmolina.com/Spectrum.html |
| 16:14.58 | TheMasterMind1 | sweet |
| 16:14.59 | TheMasterMind1 | you rock |
| 16:15.01 | TheMasterMind1 | google rocks |
| 16:15.16 | kergoth | google definately rocks |
| 16:15.32 | TheMasterMind1 | shweet |
| 16:15.36 | TheMasterMind1 | this is just what i need |
| 16:15.48 | kergoth | woot |
| 16:15.50 | TheMasterMind1 | now, if i can find a rfmon patch with we14 compatiblity.. |
| 16:15.51 | kergoth | add that shit to the buildroot |
| 16:15.52 | kergoth | :) |
| 16:15.54 | kergoth | yeah |
| 16:15.57 | TheMasterMind1 | actually, i think i ported that one ok |
| 16:16.01 | TheMasterMind1 | it was the spectrum with the problems |
| 16:16.25 | pnis | kergoth: "ucb_enable has to be called to enable the coms" - that must be what you mentioned, right? |
| 16:16.27 | kergoth | heh. we've got all the bleeding edge drivers :) |
| 16:16.30 | kergoth | pnis: yup |
| 16:16.39 | pnis | ok |
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| 16:17.05 | kergoth | pnis: you'd think this API would be documented somewhere.. but its simple enough that its not a problem |
| 16:17.32 | pnis | kergoth: I hope so :) |
| 16:17.57 | ljp | my cat takes it personally when I dont let her lick my hand |
| 16:18.52 | pnis | kergoth: I grepped for io_set_dir none of them use it :) but than I ucb_write_reg is the same probably, and ucb_io_set_dir is very similar - and that's all I need |
| 16:19.12 | pnis | kergoth: heh I am talking about ucb1200-ts and audio |
| 16:19.21 | kergoth | yep. setting the gpio direction is pretty easy to understand |
| 16:19.33 | kergoth | fromt he comments in the ucb1x00 core |
| 16:19.36 | pnis | kergoth: now I am looking for ucb_set_io() |
| 16:19.57 | kergoth | set_io just sets the gpio pin to high or low, right? |
| 16:20.09 | pnis | right |
| 16:20.49 | pnis | also the mask is shiffted left first in original |
| 16:20.56 | pnis | ucb1200 |
| 16:21.19 | pnis | is that a reason to worry iyo ? |
| 16:21.57 | pnis | I would say : yes it is |
| 16:22.57 | pnis | ok I kind of understand the stuff |
| 16:23.30 | kergoth | I suspect we may not want to use our defines from tc35143af without modification :) |
| 16:24.09 | pnis | ucb1x00_write is ucb1200_set_io |
| 16:24.28 | pnis | ucb1x00_io_set dir is ucb1200_io_set_dir :) |
| 16:24.43 | pnis | and I agree those defines might not be that usefull here |
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| 16:24.52 | kergoth | not without alteration anyway |
| 16:25.02 | pnis | ucb1x00 write_reg is the same |
| 16:25.19 | pnis | so it is looking good now :) |
| 16:25.48 | pnis | kergoth: hehe:) they might be a good base to start of from in deed |
| 16:26.17 | pnis | ok time to go implement these fine ideas |
| 16:26.28 | pnis | see you later |
| 16:26.31 | pnis | by TheMasterMind1 |
| 16:26.38 | kergoth | ttyl |
| 16:28.21 | mark | kergoth: any easy kernel work need doing? checking in of patches or anything i'll manage? :) |
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| 16:30.04 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
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| 16:30.08 | TheMasterMind1 | this is an interesting patch |
| 16:30.52 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 16:30.53 | TheMasterMind1 | it doesn't even touch spectrum_cs.c |
| 16:31.02 | TheMasterMind1 | which definitely doesn't compile with 0.13a |
| 16:31.02 | TheMasterMind1 | damn |
| 16:31.08 | TheMasterMind1 | so he just made it work with .11b |
| 16:31.18 | TheMasterMind1 | we might end up just using .11b with WE14 |
| 16:31.25 | kergoth | that'd be better than nothing |
| 16:31.30 | kergoth | we can look into .13a later |
| 16:31.41 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 16:31.47 | TheMasterMind1 | i'll see if i can get it working |
| 16:31.58 | TheMasterMind1 | its just two or three functions that have changed that are scrweing it up |
| 16:32.05 | TheMasterMind1 | orinoco_shutdown dissapeared |
| 16:32.10 | TheMasterMind1 | and orinoco_reset is being weird |
| 16:34.31 | TheMasterMind1 | do any of these guys irc? jean, pavil, snax? |
| 16:37.11 | kergoth | dunno |
| 16:38.22 | TheMasterMind1 | ok, so atleast we know .11b works fine |
| 16:38.25 | bisho | What's the /dev/lirc of the topic? |
| 16:38.33 | TheMasterMind1 | bisho eh? |
| 16:38.35 | kergoth | bisho: required to usel irc |
| 16:38.50 | TheMasterMind1 | linux infrared remote control |
| 16:38.52 | bisho | I was using irc without it... |
| 16:38.56 | bisho | ahhh |
| 16:38.58 | kergoth | lirc != irc |
| 16:38.59 | bisho | :) |
| 16:39.00 | bisho | XD |
| 16:39.01 | kergoth | :) |
| 16:39.28 | bisho | and zremote? |
| 16:39.33 | bisho | I don't find it |
| 16:39.40 | kergoth | theres no icon |
| 16:39.43 | kergoth | you run it from console |
| 16:39.44 | kergoth | like the topic syas |
| 16:39.45 | kergoth | says |
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| 16:40.01 | bisho | ipkg install zremote |
| 16:40.01 | bisho | Cannot find package zremote. |
| 16:40.04 | kergoth | ? |
| 16:40.08 | kergoth | bisho: its included with lirc. |
| 16:40.11 | kergoth | bisho: there is no zremote package |
| 16:40.13 | bisho | sorry... :) |
| 16:40.27 | TheMasterMind1 | sigh.. |
| 16:40.41 | TheMasterMind1 | i need to clean that up some more |
| 16:40.44 | TheMasterMind1 | someday.. |
| 16:44.11 | mark | so no kernel patches need applying? Has the backlight driver been done? |
| 16:44.52 | tik | hi there :) |
| 16:45.16 | TheMasterMind1 | tik! |
| 16:45.23 | TheMasterMind1 | where the hell have you been? |
| 16:45.45 | tik | mr Battery, yes ;) |
| 16:45.56 | tik | TheMasterMind1: afk ;) |
| 16:46.28 | tik | oh boys, the last days were quite, uhm, alcoholic... |
| 16:47.08 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm, fuck it. |
| 16:47.11 | TheMasterMind1 | we'll use .11b |
| 16:47.15 | TheMasterMind1 | .13 is weird |
| 16:47.44 | tik | TheMasterMind1: as the number already indicates :)) |
| 16:48.01 | TheMasterMind1 | lol |
| 16:49.01 | tik | kergoth: my averaging voltage stuff seems to work, do you either like a diff (against which version?) or may I simply mail you my latest collie_battery.c? |
| 16:49.15 | TheMasterMind1 | ooh |
| 16:49.17 | TheMasterMind1 | averaging.. |
| 16:49.23 | TheMasterMind1 | oooh. |
| 16:49.55 | tik | TheMasterMind1: I simply stuff the last n measures into an array and use the average over it. |
| 16:50.12 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 16:50.14 | TheMasterMind1 | :) |
| 16:51.36 | tik | TheMasterMind1: this *might* be bad for triggering of forced-suspend-due-to-empty-battery because of the delay induced but I did not notice any problems so far. |
| 16:52.02 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 16:52.10 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth was working on some battery learning stuff |
| 16:52.13 | TheMasterMind1 | stealing code from the ipaqs |
| 16:52.25 | TheMasterMind1 | better "time remaining" predictions |
| 16:52.50 | tik | TheMasterMind1: Hmm, I thought about putting such stuff into user space. |
| 16:53.25 | tik | TheMasterMind1: seems a little too complicated for being in kernel. |
| 16:54.05 | tik | TheMasterMind1: but given my spare time... |
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| 17:04.04 | TheMasterMind1 | ok, it compiled |
| 17:04.28 | TheMasterMind1 | after a bit of fucking around, but it compiled.. |
| 17:04.37 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm, now what |
| 17:05.08 | TheMasterMind1 | kernel work? |
| 17:05.17 | mark | yeah. |
| 17:05.31 | TheMasterMind1 | pick something to work on and work on it ;) |
| 17:05.47 | TheMasterMind1 | you can tweak the keyboard driver |
| 17:05.58 | TheMasterMind1 | make it so the delay isn't so awful and stuff |
| 17:06.09 | mark | TheMasterMind1: has the backlight driver been done for 2.4.19? |
| 17:06.13 | TheMasterMind1 | try to figure out why SHIFT + some keys gives two characters |
| 17:06.19 | TheMasterMind1 | mark yea, i think so |
| 17:06.26 | TheMasterMind1 | my screen is lit up, so i would say yes |
| 17:06.55 | mark | ah okay |
| 17:07.38 | mark | TheMasterMind1: where is the kyeboard driver? |
| 17:07.46 | mark | i'll take a look, may be out of my league though :) |
| 17:08.37 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth's done most of it |
| 17:08.45 | TheMasterMind1 | its just some quirks that are still there |
| 17:08.50 | TheMasterMind1 | have you tried the .19 kernel yet/ |
| 17:09.13 | mark | TheMasterMind1: on my Z? no, not yet |
| 17:09.36 | TheMasterMind1 | try it |
| 17:09.40 | TheMasterMind1 | you'll see the keyboard quirks |
| 17:10.01 | mark | TheMasterMind1: okay, how do I try it? |
| 17:10.18 | TheMasterMind1 | download and flash |
| 17:10.20 | mark | download a zImage? |
| 17:10.20 | mark | ah okay |
| 17:10.36 | TheMasterMind1 | www.openzaurus.org/unofficial/experimental/kernel/ |
| 17:12.04 | Dilb | hi |
| 17:12.27 | TheMasterMind1 | hi |
| 17:14.54 | mark | TheMasterMind1: cheers, i'll go install it |
| 17:19.23 | carsten | AndyQ: you are the AQpkg-Andy? |
| 17:19.31 | AndyQ | carsten: yup |
| 17:19.48 | carsten | I just added 10 tr() to your app and have written you a mail |
| 17:20.08 | TheMasterMind1 | tr? |
| 17:20.08 | carsten | your app is !translateble ;) |
| 17:20.10 | TheMasterMind1 | whats that |
| 17:20.12 | TheMasterMind1 | oh |
| 17:20.13 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 17:20.19 | AndyQ | carsten: cool |
| 17:20.26 | carsten | AndyQ: !cool ! |
| 17:20.31 | AndyQ | carsten: did you check anything into cvs? |
| 17:20.41 | carsten | AndyQ: yeah, just commited |
| 17:20.56 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm, fuck |
| 17:21.03 | AndyQ | carsten: k - I'm terrible for assuming that I'm the only one who works on aqpkg :) |
| 17:21.20 | TheMasterMind1 | lol |
| 17:21.41 | bisho | Why the ZUC only has temperature units? |
| 17:21.43 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm, seems this new wireless extensions support doesn't like monitor mode very much |
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| 17:21.53 | bisho | Where I can find more conversions as before? |
| 17:22.00 | carsten | AndyQ: I am currently coding. It might be that I am faster than you but in theorie the appauthors should take care of tr() themselfes |
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| 17:22.14 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth problems.. |
| 17:22.25 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth the monitor mode stuff doesnt' want to work with the new WE stuff |
| 17:22.34 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 17:22.39 | kergoth | well |
| 17:22.45 | kergoth | we dont _have_ to make it use the new WE stuff.. |
| 17:22.48 | johaBBa | ibot automagic |
| 17:22.50 | | no idea, johaBBa |
| 17:22.57 | kergoth | but i like the new features |
| 17:23.02 | AndyQ | carsten: you are correct - its just that when I started AQPkg, I was completely unfamiliar with QT programming and didn't know about tr(), and by the time I found out about it, well, I haven't got round to sorting it out..... |
| 17:23.07 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: send off an email .. to somebody |
| 17:23.13 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth yea, the new features are cool.. |
| 17:23.14 | AndyQ | just like a load of stuff really |
| 17:23.23 | TheMasterMind1 | but right now either we have monitor mode or the new features |
| 17:23.37 | kergoth | well lets keep monitor mode and drop the new WE stuff then |
| 17:23.40 | kergoth | i guess |
| 17:24.00 | kergoth | you know what? |
| 17:24.06 | kergoth | the collie battery shit.. |
| 17:24.13 | kergoth | it only checks the backup battery on resume |
| 17:24.18 | kergoth | never any other time |
| 17:24.24 | TheMasterMind1 | lol |
| 17:24.25 | kergoth | and it doesnt dump a warning if the battery is dead |
| 17:24.29 | kergoth | does nothing. |
| 17:24.30 | TheMasterMind1 | lol |
| 17:24.32 | kergoth | absolutely nothing. |
| 17:24.34 | kergoth | stupid tshit |
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| 17:24.37 | tronical | heh |
| 17:24.54 | Com[Plex] | hey sandman__: you here ? |
| 17:25.28 | AndyQ | K - I'mm off to see LOTR - bye |
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| 17:25.34 | bisho | hi... |
| 17:25.39 | bisho | again |
| 17:25.41 | Com[Plex] | anyone here know how to get opera working under 3.0 ? |
| 17:25.49 | bisho | did you say anything about the ZUC? |
| 17:25.54 | bisho | I miss everything... |
| 17:26.59 | gortsleigh | Com[Plex]: it's in the FAQ under 'Applications' |
| 17:27.15 | kergoth | Com[Plex]: you upgrade. |
| 17:27.18 | kergoth | Com[Plex]: thats it. |
| 17:27.27 | kergoth | Com[Plex]: upgrade opie, specifically. and qt as well. |
| 17:28.20 | gortsleigh | kergoth: I have to preload libqte.so.2.3.2 from the Sharp ROM to get images to display in opera (OZ 3.1rc1) |
| 17:28.23 | Com[Plex] | will that make my OZ 3.1? |
| 17:28.40 | kergoth | Com[Plex]: ? |
| 17:28.45 | kergoth | Com[Plex]: oz is more than just opie. |
| 17:28.58 | Com[Plex] | uh. listen. I looked for a package called "opie" and I didnt see one just called "opie" |
| 17:29.00 | kergoth | Com[Plex]: you can leave the base packages alone and just upgrade opie if you really want |
| 17:29.02 | Com[Plex] | same with qt |
| 17:29.07 | kergoth | are you fucking blind? |
| 17:29.16 | kergoth | you cant see that the actual pakage names are qt-embedded, and opie-* |
| 17:29.17 | Com[Plex] | in my left eye, yes |
| 17:29.26 | gortsleigh | lol |
| 17:29.33 | kergoth | jesus christ, go look at the damn feed |
| 17:29.38 | Com[Plex] | *sigh* |
| 17:29.43 | kergoth | i'm not going to hold your hand while we cross the road |
| 17:29.45 | kergoth | poor kiddies |
| 17:29.47 | Com[Plex] | yeah yeha |
| 17:30.31 | kergoth | you need to upgrade qt-embedded, opie-base .. might want to upgrade libopie, opie-taskbar, just to be on the safe side |
| 17:30.49 | Com[Plex] | thanks |
| 17:39.21 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm fuck |
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| 17:47.13 | Dessimat0r | lo all |
| 17:47.29 | Dessimat0r | + |
| 17:47.47 | Dessimat0r | lol, ignore the +, something just fell on the keyboard |
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| 17:58.16 | sandman_ | kergoth: does oz busybox include the "pidof" command ? |
| 17:58.42 | kergoth | sandman_: yep |
| 17:59.07 | sandman_ | kergoth: I'm converting all the qcop's in the postinst into "pidof qpe >/dev/null" && qcop .. |
| 17:59.23 | kergoth | sandman_: ah, good idea |
| 17:59.36 | sandman_ | I'm sick of users reporting the installation failed .. tons of errors |
| 17:59.45 | kergoth | yep |
| 18:02.17 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth how does the zaurus automount cf on insert |
| 18:02.20 | tronical | sandman_: excellent idea! |
| 18:02.21 | TheMasterMind1 | i wanna do it on this box, how do you do it |
| 18:02.30 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: edit /etc/pcmcia/ide.opts |
| 18:02.33 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: afaicr |
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| 18:05.42 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth hmm, i think i found the problem wiht monitor mode. there's a function called wlansniff defnied but when compiling it says its never called, even though it is called, its inside a switch statement that's called when you do iwpriv |
| 18:05.50 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm trying to figure out why it doesn't get there |
| 18:06.09 | kergoth | ah |
| 18:08.02 | TheMasterMind1 | wtf. i don't get this. i put some printk and debug stuff on one of the cases that does work, but it isn't outputting anything to the screen |
| 18:10.13 | TheMasterMind1 | where would printk's go? |
| 18:10.32 | kergoth | console |
| 18:10.44 | kergoth | depending on what level.. did you printk(KERN_DEBUG "blah"); or what? |
| 18:10.52 | kergoth | KERN_DEBUG for example doesnt go to console by default |
| 18:10.57 | TheMasterMind1 | warning |
| 18:10.58 | kergoth | but you'll see em in dmesg |
| 18:11.02 | kergoth | ah |
| 18:11.10 | TheMasterMind1 | i wanna see it on console, so what should i make it |
| 18:11.17 | kergoth | just leave it, dont put a KERN_ |
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| 18:11.21 | kergoth | default will go to console |
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| 18:11.45 | TheMasterMind1 | i tried that too |
| 18:11.47 | TheMasterMind1 | i dont' see anything |
| 18:12.07 | TheMasterMind1 | but there's a DEBUG(1, "stuff"); in the function that the switch statement calls and i do see that |
| 18:12.09 | TheMasterMind1 | so i'm confused |
| 18:12.31 | sebd | Hello, anyone using korganizer/embedded ? What calendar app do professional openzaurus users like ? |
| 18:14.47 | kergoth | sebd: i just use opie-datebook, but my needs arent very complex.. my TODO list is usually a text file i edit with vim :) |
| 18:15.18 | sebd | kergoth: thanks |
| 18:20.36 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth this is weird, printk/debug from inside the fucntinos works but not from that particular switch statement |
| 18:20.47 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: odd |
| 18:20.52 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: ah |
| 18:21.04 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: its never getting to the switch statement, or its never getting to the case in question |
| 18:24.34 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth yes, one would think so, but it does call that function so i dunno whats going on. that's the only place that function is being called afaik |
| 18:25.25 | TheMasterMind1 | or is it.. |
| 18:25.26 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
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| 18:40.01 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth hmm, seems this whole orinoco_ioctl function is no longer used. so that's why the switch statement did nothing, they're using some sort of function pointer business to do it all now |
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| 18:40.22 | Twiun | ack... still can't get any use out of dmalloc or efence... |
| 18:40.50 | kergoth | Twiun: doing this in arm or x86? |
| 18:41.37 | Twiun | arm |
| 18:41.45 | Twiun | can't get Wonka compiled on x86 anymore |
| 18:41.54 | kergoth | ah |
| 18:42.01 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm, fuck |
| 18:42.11 | TheMasterMind1 | basically, this whole function is old and doesn't follow the new WE stuff |
| 18:43.02 | Twiun | kergoth: been stuck on this heap corruption bug for a day or so now, it's driving me loopy |
| 18:48.26 | Twiun | any suggestions welcome |
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| 18:52.58 | netass | hi all |
| 18:53.12 | TheMasterMind1 | net..ass..? |
| 18:53.37 | netass | ne1 pointing ppl in the right direction regarding using a serial cable to sync with? |
| 18:53.57 | kergoth | ibot: tell netass about howtos |
| 18:54.00 | kergoth | netass: read up. |
| 18:54.09 | netass | yea yea.. ppp howto |
| 18:54.15 | kergoth | ? |
| 18:54.20 | kergoth | the Z sync w/ serial howtos. |
| 18:54.26 | kergoth | on zauruszone. |
| 18:54.28 | kergoth | go read. |
| 18:54.43 | netass | isn't that more for Sharp Rom than OZ? |
| 18:54.49 | kergoth | FINALLY done with the collie_battery code for now. need to go back and add some bits later |
| 18:55.07 | kergoth | netass: ? ppp is ppp. they're both linux distros. the differences will be slight. |
| 18:55.32 | netass | ohh tay |
| 18:56.33 | kergoth | theres a certain satisfaction to taking a unreadable complex piece of code and making it clear, clean and readable |
| 18:56.42 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:57.30 | TheMasterMind1 | indeed |
| 18:57.44 | kergoth | i even commented this one |
| 18:57.48 | TheMasterMind1 | wow |
| 18:57.49 | TheMasterMind1 | hehe |
| 18:57.54 | kergoth | _me_! i never comment |
| 18:57.55 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:57.56 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm still fucking with this orinoco code |
| 18:58.07 | kergoth | any luck with it? |
| 18:58.13 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm starting to figure it out |
| 18:58.28 | TheMasterMind1 | the way iwpriv commands are called got changed aroudn so iwpriv monitor no longer works |
| 18:58.28 | kergoth | it helps me if i sketch out the flow of the code on paper |
| 18:58.33 | kergoth | when trying to understand code |
| 18:58.35 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:58.38 | TheMasterMind1 | yea, good idea |
| 18:59.26 | kergoth | theres often so many pieces, its hard to see how it all fits together at first glance |
| 19:03.32 | TheMasterMind1 | so is my battery finally going to be able to charge? |
| 19:03.51 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:03.52 | kergoth | yeah |
| 19:03.57 | kergoth | compiling it to test |
| 19:04.04 | TheMasterMind1 | nicd |
| 19:04.06 | TheMasterMind1 | nice even |
| 19:04.14 | kergoth | then ill start on the touchscreen |
| 19:04.22 | kergoth | hopefully we can just adapt the ucb1x00 ts driver and have it work |
| 19:04.24 | kergoth | thatd be smooth |
| 19:04.34 | mickeyl|tv | how's the keyboard stuff progressing? Will I be able to use the german hwkeyboard without the zkey applet in Opie? |
| 19:04.39 | kergoth | mickeyl|tv: yep |
| 19:04.44 | kergoth | mickeyl|tv: we need to do some work in qt though |
| 19:04.52 | kergoth | mickeyl|tv: qt's keyboard stuff is a bit of a mess |
| 19:05.13 | kergoth | spoke with sandman about it, have a plan of attack, but i need to finish the kernel bits first |
| 19:05.33 | kergoth | mickeyl|tv: you can already use the german hwkeyboard in console, its just qt thats the prob |
| 19:05.58 | mickeyl|tv | kergoth: cool. Otherwise I would propose the integration of the zkeyb setKeyboardFilter to integrate into our libqpe |
| 19:06.08 | mickeyl|tv | s/to integrate/ |
| 19:08.03 | kergoth | mickeyl|tv: if i send you a slightly altered 2.4.6 kernel, can you test it? i need to get the hardware scancode of the german modifier key |
| 19:09.13 | kergoth | mickeyl|tv: or, if you know what the qt key is for it.. from zkeyb, thatd be sufficient |
| 19:14.27 | mickeyl|tv | kergoth: you mean the (fn) keyß |
| 19:14.28 | mickeyl|tv | ? |
| 19:14.58 | sandman_ | mickeyl|tv: the "Gr" key (for äöü...) |
| 19:15.35 | kergoth | sandman_: right |
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| 19:15.54 | kergoth | I need to know the scancode for that key so i can add it to the in-kernel keymap as a compose |
| 19:17.02 | asys3 | does anyone know, why i can't rename the rc1-unstable ipks to .tgz and unpack them though installing on the z works without problems ? |
| 19:17.03 | mickeyl|tv | ok - i will peek into the zkeyb source and the keymaps to get this keycode, when cvs.sourcefourge.net is online again... |
| 19:17.11 | kergoth | mickeyl|tv: thanks |
| 19:17.22 | kergoth | asys3: they arent tgz files |
| 19:17.26 | kergoth | asys3: they're ar archives |
| 19:18.00 | asys3 | kergoth: why is the format changed ? |
| 19:18.10 | kergoth | asys3: because this is a superior format and wastes less cpu cycles |
| 19:18.23 | kergoth | asys3: gzipping a gzipped file gains you nothing, and can infact make it larger. and wastes cycles |
| 19:18.30 | Com[Plex] | asys3: because the two files inside of it are allready targsz's. so it makes more sense to make them one ar, wich takes virutlaly no cpu cycles. |
| 19:19.00 | asys3 | i see. |
| 19:19.25 | Com[Plex] | if your opening on a linux box, just use ar -x arfile.ar |
| 19:19.34 | Com[Plex] | hell. you dont even have to rename it |
| 19:19.41 | Com[Plex] | ar -x file.ipk |
| 19:19.50 | Com[Plex] | wait.. is it ar x or ar -x ? |
| 19:19.58 | kergoth | ar x |
| 19:20.01 | kergoth | ar x blah.ipk |
| 19:20.02 | kergoth | afaicr |
| 19:20.03 | TheMasterMind1 | w00t |
| 19:20.06 | TheMasterMind1 | progress! |
| 19:20.07 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 19:20.09 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm getting there |
| 19:20.11 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: nice. |
| 19:20.18 | Com[Plex] | kudos tmm |
| 19:21.06 | Com[Plex] | hey kergoth, - when I try to use fbvncserver with panel, adn I connect to it from vncviewer, any idea why the panel isnt showin? |
| 19:21.11 | asys3 | so rc1/ipkg is able to handle the tgz's and the ar's... |
| 19:21.47 | kergoth | asys3: yep |
| 19:22.01 | Com[Plex] | so is 3.0 |
| 19:22.04 | Com[Plex] | right ? |
| 19:22.05 | Com[Plex] | yea |
| 19:22.16 | kergoth | yep |
| 19:22.25 | kergoth | dunno why the panel wouldnt show, it has in the past when i tested it |
| 19:22.30 | Com[Plex] | weird.. |
| 19:22.31 | kergoth | you're using fbvncserver from testing/unstable right? |
| 19:22.37 | TheMasterMind1 | woot |
| 19:22.40 | TheMasterMind1 | i think monitor mode is working now |
| 19:22.43 | Com[Plex] | uh.. to be honst, im not sure. |
| 19:22.57 | Com[Plex] | I isntalled it a long time ago. haha |
| 19:23.11 | asys3 | the package managers don't show the files belonging to a package... Isn't there a file on the Z anywhere, where all the files of a package are listed (for uninstalling) ? |
| 19:23.13 | kergoth | is the package fbvncserver-oz or fbvncserver? and what version is it? |
| 19:23.21 | Com[Plex] | and Ive just been using my backip initrd :> - let me check. |
| 19:23.24 | kergoth | asys3: ipkg files packagename |
| 19:23.32 | kergoth | asys3: ipkg -d mtdram packagename |
| 19:23.33 | asys3 | thx |
| 19:23.33 | kergoth | asys3: .. |
| 19:23.35 | kergoth | np |
| 19:23.43 | kergoth | i.e. ipkg files packagename | xargs rm -f |
| 19:23.45 | kergoth | heh :) |
| 19:24.30 | Com[Plex] | fbvncserver_0.3-2c_arm.ipk |
| 19:24.41 | Com[Plex] | its one you made and sent me to test |
| 19:25.16 | Com[Plex] | I had to run the calibrator manually |
| 19:25.45 | Com[Plex] | god I love vnc. |
| 19:26.05 | Com[Plex] | I have convinced SO MANY people to buy a zaurus, just by letting them poke around on mine over VNC. |
| 19:26.09 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth i just need to test with kisme tnow |
| 19:26.24 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: great |
| 19:26.31 | TheMasterMind1 | and see if i can ping stuff |
| 19:26.31 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 19:26.36 | TheMasterMind1 | haven't actually tested wireless |
| 19:26.42 | TheMasterMind1 | my laptop is turned off.. |
| 19:26.44 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 19:26.55 | TheMasterMind1 | i could take a stroll outside |
| 19:27.04 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot onyx4 |
| 19:27.09 | | i heard onyx4 is one of the OpenZaurus developpers and also maintains zmencoder (see zmencoder). or Optimized feed at http://onyx4.dhs.org/feed/oz/ |
| 19:27.45 | TheMasterMind1 | what does kismet depend on |
| 19:28.07 | kergoth | nothing afaik |
| 19:28.10 | kergoth | wireless-tools |
| 19:28.11 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:28.18 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 19:28.24 | kergoth | it builds staticly against its libpcap ver, so dont need that |
| 19:28.33 | TheMasterMind1 | right |
| 19:28.36 | beattie | it also help if you have a wireless card :) |
| 19:30.32 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth ipkg complains about missing temp dir null |
| 19:31.19 | TheMasterMind1 | not sure why |
| 19:31.23 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.06 | kergoth | yeah, saw that |
| 19:32.17 | kergoth | busybox mount doesnt like tmpfs, have to use ramfs |
| 19:32.21 | kergoth | or something |
| 19:33.22 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 19:33.32 | TheMasterMind1 | a little hard to use kismet when each iwpriv outputs stuff onto the screen |
| 19:33.38 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:33.39 | TheMasterMind1 | and its hopping at 3 iwprivs a second |
| 19:34.06 | TheMasterMind1 | suggestions? |
| 19:36.12 | kergoth | print them to KERN_DEBUG |
| 19:36.29 | kergoth | make sure the default console loglevel in kernel/printk.c is 7, not 9 |
| 19:36.34 | kergoth | then the messages wont go to console, only to dmesg |
| 19:38.51 | mickeyl|tv | kergoth: I can't find the keycodes in the zkbapplet keymaps... any alternative? you mentioned a modified kernel? |
| 19:39.13 | kergoth | mickeyl|tv: yea, i can send you a kernel that dumps the scancodes to dmesg, then you just press teh Gr key and email me your dmesg |
| 19:39.35 | mickeyl|tv | kergoth: ok - lets do it that way |
| 19:39.43 | kergoth | mickeyl|tv: k. email? |
| 19:40.16 | mickeyl|tv | kergoth: mickeyl@handhelds.org |
| 19:41.25 | mickeyl|tv | kergoth: is it sufficient to put it on a cf without a initrd and do the flash dance? |
| 19:41.31 | kergoth | mickeyl|tv: yep |
| 19:41.37 | kergoth | mickeyl|tv: remember it'll still wipe the ramdisk |
| 19:42.15 | mickeyl|tv | kergoth: k, no prob - actually i don't use my zaurus for serious things like pim or so... just for developing stuff *bg* |
| 19:42.22 | kergoth | same here |
| 19:42.55 | mickeyl|tv | ok. bbl |
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| 19:47.42 | aman | hey |
| 19:47.49 | aman | kismet won't run. needs socket stuff in the kernel |
| 19:48.03 | kergoth | yea |
| 19:48.07 | kergoth | same reason dhcp didnt work |
| 19:48.56 | aman | yep |
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| 20:05.27 | aman | hmmmf |
| 20:05.43 | aman | kergoth whats this init 0 and 4 |
| 20:08.40 | asys3 | aqpkg 0.6: i had 3 views: oz3, lokal ipkgs and installed ipkgs - now only oz3 is left ! what can it be ? |
| 20:15.14 | aman | kergoth battery works? |
| 20:15.31 | kergoth | aman: hard to say.. battery status is disabled, i just enabled charging. |
| 20:15.38 | kergoth | aman: i'll see ina couple minutes when i unplug power |
| 20:15.39 | kergoth | aman: hehe |
| 20:16.44 | aman | heh ok |
| 20:17.13 | aman | hmm, tcpdump doesn't compile still |
| 20:37.28 | Dessimat0r | percentage of kernel completion? ;) You seem to be working on it very quickly |
| 20:38.06 | TheMasterMind1 | its getting there |
| 20:38.19 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 20:38.31 | Dessimat0r | keep up the good work ;) |
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| 20:47.20 | yesicanabus | any one around? |
| 20:47.31 | carsten | sure |
| 20:47.49 | yesicanabus | do u use open z? |
| 20:47.57 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 20:47.58 | TheMasterMind1 | open z? |
| 20:48.02 | smbj | lol |
| 20:48.03 | yesicanabus | open zaurus |
| 20:48.15 | TheMasterMind1 | i keep my z closed |
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| 20:52.11 | ljp | one flashes the open zaurus 'rom' onto a zaurus device |
| 20:52.37 | smbj | hmmm |
| 20:53.20 | kergoth | nable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000004 |
| 20:53.22 | kergoth | whee! |
| 20:53.34 | kergoth | oh, i know what caused that |
| 20:54.45 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 20:54.59 | kergoth | i love ksymoops |
| 20:55.07 | ljp | ya the kernel caused that |
| 20:55.10 | TheMasterMind1 | lol |
| 20:56.03 | kergoth | stupid cat |
| 20:56.07 | kergoth | i buy him balls and toys |
| 20:56.13 | kergoth | and he's more entertained by a piece of lint on the ground |
| 20:56.49 | badalex | kergoth: lol |
| 20:58.19 | ljp | heh my cat especially loves a ball of duct tape |
| 21:09.42 | netass | oh tah... got ppp<--->/dev/ttyS0 working.. anyone have luck successfully syncing with Trolltech's qtopia desktop? |
| 21:10.03 | netass | or is that another RTFM? |
| 21:18.33 | TheMasterMind1 | rtfm |
| 21:18.54 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth any luck with battery? |
| 21:22.56 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth did pnis fix the unresovled symbols in ssp? |
| 21:23.08 | TheMasterMind1 | oh, wait, this is the tc one |
| 21:23.10 | TheMasterMind1 | buzzer? |
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| 21:52.49 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: charging works |
| 21:52.50 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: :D |
| 21:53.00 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: took me long enough... |
| 21:53.08 | hardwire | hi |
| 21:55.49 | Dessimat0r | kergoth: 0wnage :D |
| 21:58.02 | kergoth | hmm |
| 21:58.10 | kergoth | its turning off the frontlight though, when it turns on suspend |
| 21:58.12 | kergoth | odd |
| 22:00.08 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: can you do me a favor and tell me the numbers next to CO and ACIN in cat /proc/interrupts? |
| 22:00.12 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: from your Z |
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| 22:01.44 | ljp | 42 |
| 22:02.50 | ljp | ACIN 4 |
| 22:02.56 | ljp | CO 4 |
| 22:03.32 | sandman_ | ACIN 1 / CO 41 |
| 22:03.42 | kergoth | interesting. |
| 22:03.44 | sandman_ | ljp: 4/4 is the interrupt counter |
| 22:03.53 | kergoth | thats what i need |
| 22:03.54 | kergoth | the interrupt count |
| 22:03.55 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:03.59 | kergoth | i know what interrupt # they are |
| 22:04.03 | sandman_ | kergoth: what for ? |
| 22:04.10 | kergoth | sandman_: just confirming something |
| 22:04.14 | Dessimat0r | kergoth: hold on |
| 22:04.21 | ljp | that was the only number by those |
| 22:04.25 | kergoth | ljp: thanks |
| 22:04.46 | sandman_ | kergoth: mine is 2/4 ACIN/CO |
| 22:04.55 | kergoth | 2/4? you're on AC right now, right? |
| 22:05.02 | sandman_ | nope |
| 22:05.05 | kergoth | hmm |
| 22:05.06 | kergoth | interesting |
| 22:05.06 | Dessimat0r | sfcave_sql appears to have crashed by going down the menu too far ;) |
| 22:05.29 | kergoth | okay good. so CO is triggered on AC removal, but also appears to be triggered when the battery is full |
| 22:05.34 | kergoth | sandman_: do you usually keep your Z fully charged? |
| 22:05.44 | ljp | ohh |
| 22:05.55 | ljp | 1/41 |
| 22:05.57 | sandman_ | kergoth: most of the time it sits in the cradle |
| 22:06.05 | kergoth | sandman_: figured. thanks |
| 22:06.11 | sandman_ | kergoth: I plugged in AC and it is now 3/4 |
| 22:06.38 | Dessimat0r | kergoth: CO/2 ACIN/2 |
| 22:06.43 | sandman_ | remove AC -> 3/5 |
| 22:06.50 | kergoth | good good |
| 22:06.54 | kergoth | okay thats what i needed |
| 22:07.46 | sandman_ | kergoth: I have been reading some console ioctl docu (which is very sparse) for a new Qt/e keyboard driver |
| 22:08.17 | mickey|away | kergoth: did you send me the modified kernel yet? |
| 22:08.29 | kergoth | mickeyl: not yet |
| 22:08.42 | sandman_ | kergoth: We could try to read "kernel keycodes" (instead of "raw keycodes") and let the kernel translate them using the loadkeys'ed tables |
| 22:09.03 | kergoth | sandman_: hmm, think it'll work? otherwise we'd have to make a keyboard plugin that parses a kernel keymap file itsefl |
| 22:09.04 | sandman_ | this way, we have nothing hardcoded, but still get modifier states |
| 22:09.06 | kergoth | itself |
| 22:09.29 | Twiun | kergoth: methinks I'm going to have to do some funky stuff to get rid of the heap corruption |
| 22:09.38 | sandman_ | I haven't tested it yet .. I'll make a small test program and see if it works on x86 |
| 22:09.56 | mickeyl | kergoth: btw.... is glibc 2.3.1 no longer buildable with gcc 2.95.3? [checking version of arm-linux-gcc... 2.95.3, bad] |
| 22:09.58 | Twiun | kergoth: most likely something like pointer->long->java long->long->pointer |
| 22:10.02 | kergoth | mickeyl: it never was |
| 22:10.09 | mickeyl | kergoth: d'oh... |
| 22:10.14 | Twiun | kergoth: dirty coding... here I come |
| 22:10.18 | kergoth | Twiun: good luck |
| 22:16.40 | kergoth | sandman_: keep me posted. i wont be even looking into that stuff until I'm done with the kernel code |
| 22:19.46 | beattie | TheMasterMind1: I've got reports in #wireless of hostap supporting the orinoco cards in managed and ad-hoc modes |
| 22:30.54 | kergoth | beattie: could be.. spectrum_cs is special though |
| 22:31.09 | kergoth | beattie: spectrum_cs, afaicr, is a prism2 based card, but it requires its firmware loaded at init time |
| 22:31.18 | kergoth | beattie: I'm not sure if HostAP facilitates that yet |
| 22:31.25 | Twiun | lol, stirred a can of worms in #c with my poor phrasing ;-) |
| 22:31.32 | kergoth | Twiun: i hate that |
| 22:32.05 | Twiun | thing is... I know what I want, but putting it into C terms seems a tad difficult |
| 22:32.15 | beattie | it requires firmware load for manages and ad-hoc modes? |
| 22:32.40 | kergoth | beattie: yes. the card doesnt have persistant firmware. it needs it downloaded at driver init time |
| 22:32.42 | Twiun | might as well ask here - you all know roughly what I'm trying to do anyway ;-) |
| 22:32.46 | kergoth | beattie: from what i understand |
| 22:34.09 | Twiun | when I have *stuff, I assume this is a pointer to an address in memory where the contents of the type stuff are stored. I'd like to have the numerical value of the memory address in a long (non pointer) variable so that I can get it to persist into java |
| 22:34.23 | beattie | kergoth: the touchscreen, do you know where the hardware dependent bits are? |
| 22:34.40 | kergoth | beattie: in 2.4.6 or 2.4.19? |
| 22:34.48 | beattie | 2.4.6 |
| 22:35.43 | kergoth | drivers/char/ucb1200_*.[ch] |
| 22:35.54 | kergoth | specifically, drivers/char/ucb1200_ts.[ch] |
| 22:36.24 | kergoth | now there is a ucb1x00 driver in 2.4.19, but the whole ucb1x00 driver was rewritten. what you need to do, is find any collie specific bits in those files |
| 22:36.29 | kergoth | ifdef CONFIG_SA1100_COLLIE |
| 22:36.41 | kergoth | then move those collie specific bits to the new ucb1x00 ts driver in 2.4.19 |
| 22:36.56 | beattie | ok |
| 22:37.07 | Twiun | kergoth: did I phrase that ok? |
| 22:37.45 | kergoth | well |
| 22:37.51 | kergoth | *stuff .. stuff is a pointer, not a type |
| 22:37.57 | kergoth | * dereferences the stuff pointer |
| 22:38.15 | kergoth | 'stuff' contains the memory address you seek |
| 22:38.40 | Twiun | right... so would I just cast that to a long to have its numeric value? |
| 22:38.42 | kergoth | cast stuff to an integer type which is long enough to hold the memory address |
| 22:38.45 | kergoth | bingo. |
| 22:38.50 | Twiun | argh. |
| 22:38.53 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:38.58 | Twiun | talk about the mother of all headaches |
| 22:39.17 | beattie | Twiun: use a long, it is usually large enough |
| 22:39.22 | Twiun | why did people want to add pointers to java again? |
| 22:39.44 | Twiun | beattie: right - I might use jlong, that way it'll work across architectures |
| 22:40.00 | beattie | Twiun: masochism |
| 22:40.05 | Twiun | figures |
| 22:41.16 | Twiun | one day... someone will take a look at my JNI code and will say "wtf?!?!" |
| 22:42.17 | Twiun | lol... this'll be even more fun |
| 22:42.23 | badl | that one was dedicated to kergoth! |
| 22:42.34 | Twiun | they'll start sticking free(x) in places and wonder why they get segfaults |
| 22:52.54 | Twiun | kergoth: and I'd reverse the process using *stuff = (stuff*)mylong? |
| 22:53.47 | kergoth | *stuff= will put the mylong pointer into the address it dereferences to |
| 22:53.55 | kergoth | i think you want stuff=(stuff *)mylong; |
| 22:54.03 | kergoth | remember, * _dereferences_ pointers |
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| 22:54.51 | kergoth | hey tronical |
| 22:54.55 | Twiun | I'm trying to make it make sense, believe me ;-) |
| 22:55.08 | tronical | moin moin :) |
| 22:55.14 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:55.28 | kergoth | collie_battery_update(): voltage = 406, percent = 1 |
| 22:55.31 | kergoth | ^^-spiffy |
| 22:56.48 | kergoth | hmm |
| 22:56.57 | kergoth | its not updating our battery status on ac removal/insert |
| 22:56.59 | kergoth | for some reason |
| 22:57.00 | kergoth | .. |
| 22:57.05 | kergoth | i have it scheduling the task .. odd |
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| 23:32.15 | pnis | hi |
| 23:32.31 | pnis | this built in speaker is not quite hifi quality :] |
| 23:32.47 | pnis | but works nonetheless |
| 23:33.17 | umopapisdn | pnis: your driver is working? cool! |
| 23:33.31 | pnis | playback works |
| 23:33.58 | pnis | it would be good to know what samplerates can be set and how |
| 23:34.06 | pnis | with this 35143af |
| 23:34.09 | pnis | chip |
| 23:34.20 | kergoth | pnis: I have a doc on it, but unless you can read japanese, it wont do you much good :D |
| 23:34.24 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:34.28 | pnis | kergoth: hehehe |
| 23:34.29 | umopapisdn | hehe |
| 23:34.31 | kergoth | pnis: battery status checkign using tc35143af is done as well |
| 23:34.40 | pnis | cool |
| 23:34.47 | pnis | however this is for 2.4.6 right know |
| 23:35.09 | pnis | kergoth: is the 2.4.19 cf driver working well? |
| 23:35.14 | kergoth | yes, it is |
| 23:35.19 | pnis | and usbd too ? |
| 23:35.24 | kergoth | usbd is down atm |
| 23:35.27 | kergoth | you can use usbf though |
| 23:35.27 | james_lan | I can read a bit of japanese, message me in about a year for technical stuff :) |
| 23:35.34 | kergoth | which works with a stock usbnet driver |
| 23:35.37 | kergoth | no patches needed |
| 23:35.47 | pnis | usbf ? that is for 2.4.20 on the desktop? |
| 23:35.56 | kergoth | usbf is the Z side driver |
| 23:36.00 | kergoth | usbnet is the desktop side driver |
| 23:36.08 | kergoth | usbnet is in nearly every 2.4 kernel |
| 23:36.15 | kergoth | its what the ipaq folks use |
| 23:36.16 | pnis | sounds good |
| 23:36.25 | pnis | than I could just as well try 2.4.19 |
| 23:36.33 | pnis | if usbf or cf breaks |
| 23:36.39 | pnis | than I will have to by a cf card reader |
| 23:37.16 | pnis | tomorrow I will try the real thing :) |
| 23:37.27 | kergoth | cool :) |
| 23:37.45 | pnis | kergoth: the numbers are arabic in that doc ? |
| 23:37.53 | pnis | kergoth: what samplerates are possible ?:) |
| 23:37.57 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:37.58 | kergoth | hold on |
| 23:38.05 | kergoth | you can make out certain diagrams and the like |
| 23:38.21 | pnis | i see |
| 23:38.35 | pnis | this is under nda and only on paper ? |
| 23:38.47 | kergoth | its a scanned pdf |
| 23:39.06 | pnis | that is good |
| 23:39.22 | kergoth | pnis: added you to the linux-cl tree |
| 23:39.29 | kergoth | pnis: you have push access there now |
| 23:39.33 | pnis | ok thanks |
| 23:39.46 | kergoth | np, thanks for the assistance |
| 23:39.59 | pnis | I will test 2.4.19 tomorrow hopefully, clean up the stuff |
| 23:40.01 | pnis | and push |
| 23:40.07 | kergoth | sounds good |
| 23:40.16 | pnis | no recording yet however |
| 23:40.30 | kergoth | hey one step at a time :) |
| 23:40.34 | pnis | exactly :) |
| 23:40.49 | pnis | as a proof of concept it is good :) |
| 23:40.53 | kergoth | yes, very |
| 23:41.11 | kergoth | col |
| 23:41.13 | kergoth | lie_battery_update(): voltage = 174, percent = 1 |
| 23:41.18 | kergoth | okay, time to work on touchscreen |
| 23:41.23 | kergoth | beattie: get anywhere on that front? |
| 23:41.30 | pnis | cool |
| 23:41.54 | kergoth | we might not have to do much.. since theres already a ucb1x00 TS driver |
| 23:42.37 | sandman_ | kergoth: user-land translation of keycode via ioctls doesn't really work well |
| 23:42.53 | sandman_ | kergoth: I think we have to implement a keymap parser |
| 23:43.13 | sandman_ | kergoth: (or tweak loadkeys.. ;) |
| 23:44.20 | kergoth | sandman_: k |
| 23:44.42 | sandman_ | kergoth: this way we could actually do something like: qcop "QPE/System" "loadKeymap(QString)" "de-latin.kmap.gz" |
| 23:45.09 | kergoth | sandman_: yup, that would be very cool. could then do a keymap GUI for advanced users :) |
| 23:45.59 | sandman_ | kergoth: we don't need to make qt/e's keyboard handling modular this way -- just throw out the current stuff and replace it with a lookup in a (dynamic) table |
| 23:46.23 | sandman_ | and switch input from K_RAW (scancodes) to K_MEDIUMRAW (kernel keycodes) |
| 23:46.55 | pnis | time for me to go to bed |
| 23:47.04 | kergoth | night pnis |
| 23:47.11 | james_lan | night |
| 23:47.13 | pnis | if you have pointers to 35143af documentation, do share it with me !:) |
| 23:47.14 | pnis | bye |
| 23:47.17 | kergoth | will do |
| 23:47.20 | pnis | thanks |
| 23:47.24 | pnis | see you |
| 23:48.20 | sandman_ | kergoth: heh .. loadkeys.c really is a mess ... |
| 23:48.56 | kergoth | sandman_: how bad is it? worth using or should we do a new parser? |
| 23:49.27 | sandman_ | ah .. just noticed it is generated from loadkeys.y (bison parser) |
| 23:49.37 | kergoth | ah |
| 23:50.35 | sandman_ | we need to replace everything that puts the data in some internal structs and build our own QLists/QMaps |
| 23:51.33 | kergoth | yup |
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| 23:57.53 | BaTfInK | kergoth: installed the devil, seen a few differences already |
| 23:57.53 | kergoth | hmm |
| 23:58.10 | kergoth | wtf is up with my load average.. the battery status checking cant be sucking up that much cpu.. |
| 23:58.14 | kergoth | hmm |
| 23:58.35 | kergoth | wtf? when the frontlight function was called to blank the display... something happened to my status timer |
| 23:58.39 | kergoth | its dead |
| 23:58.54 | troffasky | my zaurus backlight came on a midnight |
| 23:59.02 | troffasky | for some unknown reason |
| 23:59.12 | troffasky | no alarms set or anything |
| 23:59.56 | Bovine | mm, scary |