| 00:01.36 | kergoth | HMM |
| 00:01.40 | kergoth | er hmm |
| 00:04.40 | jmhodges | hmm? |
| 00:05.01 | kergoth | hmm. |
| 00:05.15 | kergoth | bored. |
| 00:05.18 | kergoth | need something to do for an hour |
| 00:05.21 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:06.11 | jmhodges | heheh |
| 00:06.40 | [DrEvil] | watch a movie |
| 00:06.48 | kergoth | dont have any handy |
| 00:06.59 | mrwoody | you can find on the net |
| 00:07.00 | kergoth | shoudlve thought ahead |
| 00:07.01 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:07.14 | mrwoody | :-) |
| 00:07.19 | *** join/#openzaurus prpplague (~joebob@21-190.lctv-b4.cablelynx.com) |
| 00:07.20 | mrwoody | how is the ts thing going? |
| 00:07.26 | chouimat | broed!!!!! |
| 00:07.42 | chouimat | bored!!!!! |
| 00:07.52 | kergoth | mrwoody: it hates me. i hate it. its mutual. |
| 00:08.11 | mrwoody | kergoth: is it very different from the ipaq? |
| 00:08.17 | kergoth | mrwoody: not really |
| 00:08.23 | kergoth | mrwoody: its really quite simple in its nature |
| 00:08.34 | kergoth | mrwoody: just not sure why the numbers we read are off |
| 00:08.36 | kergoth | its strange |
| 00:09.13 | mrwoody | kergoth: what is the size of the compiled kernel atm? |
| 00:09.20 | kergoth | mrwoody: depends |
| 00:09.26 | kergoth | I'm using a pretty minimal one here |
| 00:09.30 | kergoth | with lots of shit disabled |
| 00:09.34 | kergoth | for teh release it'll be larger |
| 00:09.42 | mrwoody | kergoth: compare to 2.4.6? |
| 00:09.57 | chouimat | lol!!! M$ Reader format (.lit) it's a binary form of Open Ebook Format |
| 00:10.10 | kergoth | hah |
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| 00:11.20 | kergoth | hey cloud |
| 00:13.12 | mrwoody | how to play gta2? |
| 00:13.38 | [DrEvil] | kergoth: is there a new tool chain? |
| 00:13.54 | [DrEvil] | checking version of arm-linux-gcc... 2.95.3, bad |
| 00:13.54 | [DrEvil] | checking for gnumake... no |
| 00:13.54 | [DrEvil] | checking for gmake... gmake |
| 00:13.54 | [DrEvil] | checking version of gmake... 3.79.1, ok |
| 00:13.54 | [DrEvil] | configure: error: |
| 00:13.55 | kergoth | [DrEvil]: not handy. I need to get around to building a new one now that tronical improved it |
| 00:13.55 | [DrEvil] | *** These critical programs are missing or too old: gcc |
| 00:13.57 | [DrEvil] | *** Check the INSTALL file for required versions. |
| 00:14.03 | kergoth | what are you biulding? |
| 00:14.08 | [DrEvil] | glibc |
| 00:14.10 | kergoth | you cant build libc6 2.3.1 with 2.95.3 if thats what you're trying |
| 00:14.13 | [DrEvil] | that is with your toolchain |
| 00:14.18 | kergoth | dont select 2.3.1 |
| 00:14.21 | kergoth | choose 2.2.4 |
| 00:14.25 | [DrEvil] | oh |
| 00:14.26 | [DrEvil] | ok |
| 00:14.32 | tronical | kergoth: currently trying a newer debian gcc snapshot, btw :) |
| 00:14.38 | kergoth | tronical: cool ;) |
| 00:14.42 | tronical | kergoth: will let it build through the night and if it works push tomorrow |
| 00:15.23 | kergoth | tronical: opinion. do you think we should use the input layer interface or the ucb1x00 interface? |
| 00:15.48 | kergoth | tronical: i much prefer input layer, but then we lose the old interface, and then we end up with a tslib build that Depends on the new kernel.. we'd need two tslib builds |
| 00:16.01 | kergoth | tronical: unless we made input layer selection a runtime, not compiletime, tslib opt |
| 00:17.11 | tronical | kergoth: what advantage do you see with the input layer? (apart from the fact that it's a nice standardized API instead of the self-made ts ioctl hacks :) |
| 00:17.12 | kergoth | hmm |
| 00:17.16 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:17.30 | kergoth | tronical: nothing other than that, so we shoudl rpobably disable it to keep 2.4.6 compatibility with regard to tslib |
| 00:17.39 | kergoth | :) |
| 00:18.22 | tronical | kergoth: yeah, I think that's easier for now. when .6 is gone it sounds like a very good idea to me though |
| 00:18.28 | kergoth | tronical: agreed. |
| 00:18.47 | kergoth | tronical: oen thing i noticed.. I altered the patch to request 5 samples of tslib.. but we always only end up with one |
| 00:18.48 | [DrEvil] | kergoth: can you add something like "make sources" to the buildroot |
| 00:18.58 | [DrEvil] | so it would pull the sources it needs for everything before building |
| 00:19.01 | kergoth | tronical: because qt picks up an available sample with the socket notifier and immediately reads the one avaialble sample :) |
| 00:19.26 | kergoth | tronical: it responds fast. so nr from ts_read_raw ends up being one, and variance and jitter dont end up doing a damn thing. |
| 00:19.29 | kergoth | tronical: :( |
| 00:19.32 | tronical | kergoth: hm, is that with your patch or mine? mine uses the old qt code which buffers all samples it gets |
| 00:19.37 | kergoth | yeah |
| 00:19.40 | kergoth | this is with mine |
| 00:19.51 | tronical | kergoth: although... mine is buggy, too, in this aspect I just realize |
| 00:19.59 | tronical | kergoth: coz it just requests one sample |
| 00:20.01 | kergoth | we're going to need the buffering though |
| 00:20.03 | kergoth | yep |
| 00:20.06 | kergoth | we need to combine our patches |
| 00:20.07 | kergoth | :) |
| 00:20.19 | kergoth | [DrEvil]: um |
| 00:20.22 | kergoth | [DrEvil]: make sources works |
| 00:20.26 | kergoth | [DrEvil]: type 'make sources' |
| 00:20.28 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:20.32 | prpplague | kergoth: hows the new kernel hacking going? |
| 00:20.33 | tronical | kergoth: yes, once that bitch of a touchscreen works :) |
| 00:20.33 | [DrEvil] | does it pull everything at once? |
| 00:20.37 | [DrEvil] | I didn't know it was there |
| 00:20.40 | kergoth | [DrEvil]: if you type make sources, yep |
| 00:20.44 | [DrEvil] | mmmk |
| 00:21.06 | kergoth | tronical: yep. these flaky X values are driving me nuts. they still fluctuate about 100+- |
| 00:21.14 | kergoth | prpplague: TS hates me. but other than that not bad |
| 00:21.18 | prpplague | kergoth: lol |
| 00:21.31 | prpplague | kergoth: ya, ts is a wonderful thing |
| 00:21.32 | tronical | kergoth: I for one have given up (the only thing left that comes to my mind is to 'port' the state machine from .6, but I know too few about the chip) . my hope lies entirely within the coming .18, in hope that 5600 has the same hardware :} |
| 00:21.39 | kergoth | prpplague: its not that complex.. its just a fucking tc35143af, which is almost exactly a ucb1x00.. |
| 00:21.53 | kergoth | tronical: hehe. there's no way in hell i'm porting that state machine :) |
| 00:21.57 | prpplague | hmm, not seen that chip |
| 00:22.08 | kergoth | prpplague: toshiba analog frontend |
| 00:22.23 | prpplague | kergoth: been diging around for a ucb1x00 replacement since they aren't available anymore |
| 00:22.28 | kergoth | adc, dac, ts controller, 10 gpios. we even use the ucb1x00 driver |
| 00:22.31 | kergoth | ah |
| 00:22.38 | kergoth | mabye thats why sharp went with this as opposed to a ucb1x00. |
| 00:23.20 | prpplague | kergoth: this is what i've been looking at - http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/tsc2301.html |
| 00:23.29 | prpplague | kergoth: got some samples coming in next week |
| 00:23.41 | kergoth | prpplague: ah nice, let me know how that works |
| 00:23.45 | kergoth | prpplague: what interface? |
| 00:23.47 | mrwoody | is there a way to increase the size of the screen for the gameboy emulator? |
| 00:23.49 | prpplague | i2s |
| 00:24.06 | kergoth | prpplague: ah, and you can use SSP on the sa1110? |
| 00:24.31 | prpplague | kergoth: ya with some glue logic |
| 00:24.45 | jmhodges | yaaaaay! food :) |
| 00:24.46 | jmhodges | later |
| 00:24.51 | prpplague | i need to look at this tc35143 chip |
| 00:25.12 | prpplague | kergoth: this hardware stuff is starting to eat my brain |
| 00:25.20 | prpplague | kergoth: and my wallet |
| 00:25.26 | kergoth | heheh |
| 00:25.31 | kergoth | I need to learn more about hardware |
| 00:25.36 | kergoth | I'm _seriously_ inept in that department |
| 00:25.42 | kergoth | need to buy a good EE book or so |
| 00:25.50 | kergoth | (or go back to college) ;) |
| 00:30.34 | prpplague | kergoth: imho, no such thing as a good EE book |
| 00:30.51 | prpplague | kergoth: nothing like a soldering iron and burnt fingers |
| 00:31.07 | kergoth | prpplague: heheh. burnt fingers wont help me without the theory ;) |
| 00:31.50 | prpplague | kergoth: ya but smokin chips will :) |
| 00:32.12 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:32.17 | ljp | hardware |
| 00:32.37 | ljp | keep the blue smoke inside the computer! |
| 00:32.45 | kergoth | prpplague: you have any ideas on a good way to get my feet wet w/ this stuff? |
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| 00:33.11 | kergoth | prpplague: friend of mine runs a board design business w/ atmel's, thinking I'll grab some of those, play around with programming them |
| 00:33.14 | AndyQ | hello |
| 00:33.18 | kergoth | hey andy |
| 00:33.27 | AndyQ | hows things kergoth? |
| 00:33.27 | tronical | night all |
| 00:33.31 | prpplague | kergoth: thats what i was about to say, some atmel 8052 stuff is good |
| 00:33.35 | kergoth | AndyQ: i need a windows sfcave to burn up the next half our that i'm stuck at work |
| 00:33.50 | AndyQ | kergoth: kergoth@handhelds.org? |
| 00:33.52 | kergoth | prpplague: cool. theres a atmel gcc right? |
| 00:33.53 | kergoth | AndyQ: yea |
| 00:33.57 | prpplague | kergoth: but the sa-1110 is actual pretty nice for understanding the pros/cons of digital stuff |
| 00:34.00 | AndyQ | kergoth: on its way :) |
| 00:34.04 | prpplague | kergoth: sorta |
| 00:34.32 | kergoth | prpplague: well for sa-1110 hackin, i'll wait for your hackkit ;) |
| 00:34.37 | kergoth | prpplague: in the meanwhile i'll learn atmel |
| 00:34.40 | kergoth | AndyQ: thanks |
| 00:34.45 | prpplague | kergoth: cool beans |
| 00:35.11 | ljp | hahahaha! I just got home |
| 00:35.14 | kergoth | prpplague: I quite enjoy this. kernel development, and interfacing with things at a very low level. never delved into this stuff before |
| 00:35.17 | kergoth | ljp: bastard |
| 00:35.21 | ljp | :D |
| 00:35.27 | ljp | home home home |
| 00:35.42 | AndyQ | kergoth: YGM (or will have soon) |
| 00:35.52 | kergoth | AndyQ: thanks |
| 00:35.57 | AndyQ | kergoth: and you are the lucky one - you get sound :) |
| 00:36.05 | AndyQ | kergoth: np - least I could do |
| 00:36.08 | prpplague | ljp: i've been home, listening to groove salas, and already had one glass of "arrogant bastard ale"! |
| 00:36.17 | prpplague | s/salas/salad |
| 00:36.41 | AndyQ | prpplague: currently drinking 'Andyz ale' my own brew and very nice too |
| 00:37.00 | kergoth | prpplague: i started working out again.. and have to cut down my alcohol intake cause it dampens recovery |
| 00:37.05 | kergoth | prpplague: which sucks :( |
| 00:37.08 | prpplague | AndyQ: cool, which style of ale |
| 00:37.10 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: whatcha doing at home? you should be out on the piss @ you age :) |
| 00:37.17 | prpplague | kergoth: tonight is my tr3eat |
| 00:37.21 | Dessimat0r | heh, don't like alcohol ;) |
| 00:37.22 | kergoth | woo, new battery patch from tik |
| 00:37.25 | Dessimat0r | its stupid |
| 00:37.32 | kergoth | he averages the read values to reduce the fluctuations |
| 00:37.39 | ljp | hmmm |
| 00:37.39 | prpplague | kergoth: i;ve been dry since sunday |
| 00:37.43 | AndyQ | prpplague: not a clue - its dark clear (sorta bitter ish) but slightly sweet (which means I cracked it slightly too soon out of impatience :) |
| 00:38.08 | prpplague | AndyQ: nice |
| 00:38.10 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: WTF??????? Don;t like alcohol? You just havent tried it enough :) |
| 00:38.16 | AndyQ | prpplague: yup - very |
| 00:38.24 | prpplague | AndyQ: you a member at ratebeer.com ? |
| 00:38.24 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 00:38.28 | kergoth | I refused to drink when i was younger |
| 00:38.28 | AndyQ | kergoth: any joy of TS? |
| 00:38.36 | AndyQ | prpplague: nope - worth joining? |
| 00:38.48 | kergoth | as I have alcoholism in nearly every branch of my family. parents, grandparents, on boht sides |
| 00:38.50 | AndyQ | prpplague: although to be honest - I prefer whiskey |
| 00:38.51 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:38.55 | Dessimat0r | heh |
| 00:39.03 | prpplague | kergoth: you got a url on that ts chip? |
| 00:39.04 | AndyQ | kergoth: hehe - least you have an excuse :) |
| 00:39.06 | kergoth | i love a nice smooth canadian whiskey |
| 00:39.12 | Dessimat0r | don't you think alcohol tastes.. nasty? |
| 00:39.18 | Dessimat0r | and bitter |
| 00:39.19 | prpplague | AndyQ: ya its a great site |
| 00:39.19 | kergoth | prpplague: shit no, the only specs I managed to dig up are in japanese in a _scanned_ pdf |
| 00:39.20 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: nope |
| 00:39.23 | kergoth | prpplague: google it? ;) |
| 00:39.29 | prpplague | kergoth: nada |
| 00:39.33 | kergoth | prpplague: figured. |
| 00:39.39 | kergoth | prpplague: dunno what the scoop is on that thing |
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| 00:39.59 | AndyQ | anyone fancy a free vibrator (with order)? - http://www.gwenap.net/ |
| 00:40.02 | Dessimat0r | what we need is a japanese |
| 00:40.02 | prpplague | kergoth: i;ve got a search script going through toshibas archives |
| 00:40.06 | AndyQ | and dont ask how I hit that one :) |
| 00:40.12 | kergoth | prpplague: let me know what you dig up |
| 00:40.33 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 00:40.41 | prpplague | kergoth: will do |
| 00:41.25 | kergoth | AndyQ: hah |
| 00:42.18 | kergoth | AndyQ: what would you recommend for a good smooth whiskey? |
| 00:43.31 | AndyQ | kergoth: depends - I'm a single malt person myself and the best by far is Laphroig followed closely by Claret barreled Bowmore |
| 00:44.20 | AndyQ | hehe |
| 00:44.34 | AndyQ | bourbon is nasty - even with coke |
| 00:44.39 | prpplague | kergoth: got a hit |
| 00:44.44 | kergoth | bleh, i'm not a fan of bourbon either |
| 00:44.48 | prpplague | kergoth: looks like its a custom chip |
| 00:44.57 | kergoth | prpplague: ahh |
| 00:44.58 | prpplague | kergoth: not available to cosumers |
| 00:45.10 | kergoth | prpplague: ah well |
| 00:45.19 | prpplague | kergoth: i'll leave the search running and see if i can find more info |
| 00:45.34 | AndyQ | kergoth: Bruchladdich is also very nice |
| 00:47.21 | kergoth | aha |
| 00:47.30 | kergoth | AndyQ: dood, i love it. this is the first time i've played your sdl version |
| 00:47.36 | kergoth | AndyQ: i love the explosion :) |
| 00:47.39 | AndyQ | kergoth: :) |
| 00:47.58 | ljp | just wait till it emails andyq your credit card infos |
| 00:48.02 | AndyQ | kergoth: the Z version is identical except haven't built it for sound yet - awaiting .19 buzzer :) |
| 00:48.15 | kergoth | AndyQ: nice |
| 00:48.16 | AndyQ | ljp: you promised you wouldn't tell anyone about the 'feature' :) |
| 00:48.18 | kergoth | ~lart ljp |
| 00:48.22 | ljp | doh! |
| 00:48.40 | kergoth | AndyQ: nice, now i have something to do to waste time at work |
| 00:48.41 | kergoth | AndyQ: thanks |
| 00:48.42 | kergoth | heheh |
| 00:48.44 | AndyQ | ljp: fortuantly you told him AFTER he ran it :) |
| 00:48.55 | AndyQ | kergoth: one aims to please |
| 00:49.14 | AndyQ | kergoth: I waste time at work writing it :) |
| 00:49.21 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:49.23 | ljp | kergoth: get xmame and the tempest rom |
| 00:49.28 | kergoth | ljp: good idea |
| 00:49.33 | kergoth | I need Galaga too |
| 00:49.47 | AndyQ | Space Invaders/Space Rescue for me |
| 00:49.54 | kergoth | ibot: message for themastermind1: finally fixed the concurrency bug in the keyboard driver |
| 00:50.02 | mickeyl | kergoth: hmm... by the way, if we called 3.1rc1 codename 'the devil' then is 3.1rc2 "the touchscreen Überdevil" or what??? |
| 00:50.09 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:50.10 | hobbs | yeah, I grabbed me some mame yesterday because mom wanted to play frogger. :) |
| 00:50.11 | kergoth | no idea |
| 00:50.12 | mickeyl | ;) |
| 00:50.17 | AndyQ | kergoth: have you got TS working yet? |
| 00:50.22 | kergoth | AndyQ: well, it works |
| 00:50.28 | AndyQ | kergoth: or does it still hate you :) |
| 00:50.29 | kergoth | AndyQ: but the X values fluctuate too much to be really reliable |
| 00:50.42 | AndyQ | ibot: lart TS driver |
| 00:50.46 | kergoth | AndyQ: though if i calibrate with the tslib utils i can use the tslib test util properly.. qt's calibration fails though |
| 00:50.50 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:51.00 | AndyQ | kergoth: re-write opie calibration :) |
| 00:51.12 | kergoth | AndyQ: i just may |
| 00:51.23 | AndyQ | kergoth: may be easier in the long run |
| 00:51.36 | hobbs | o/~ And I still may o/~ |
| 00:51.39 | kergoth | AndyQ: in fact, i may make opie's calibrator write the file in the identical format as tslib, and use the tslib linear calibration transform module to do the alterations ont eh values rather than doing it in qt itself |
| 00:51.50 | kergoth | dunno what i'm doing just yet |
| 00:51.52 | AndyQ | then you can fudge it all you like - put magic numbers and shit in to confuse the next poor sod who has to work with it :) |
| 00:51.58 | kergoth | hah |
| 00:52.05 | kergoth | we already have a seperate tslib module fro that cruft |
| 00:52.08 | kergoth | 'collie' |
| 00:52.14 | kergoth | echo module collie xyswap >> /etc/ts.conf |
| 00:52.15 | kergoth | heheh |
| 00:52.35 | AndyQ | kergoth: code isn't real code unless it has a few magic numbers thrown in for good measure |
| 00:52.44 | AndyQ | kergoth: even SFCaave has a magic number or two :) |
| 00:52.53 | kergoth | ~fishslap AndyQ for acting like lineo |
| 00:52.57 | | ACTION slaps AndyQ up side the head with a wet fish for acting like lineo |
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| 00:53.08 | AndyQ | and commented? PAH - that would be a waste of good magic number code :) |
| 00:53.46 | AndyQ | actually - thats not true - it is commented coz I know I'll be the next person to work on it and I wont have a clue what 1.5*speed/12 was for :) |
| 00:53.55 | kergoth | AndyQ: if you make 2 or more layers of indirection using the C preprocessor, i'm going to kill you |
| 00:54.02 | kergoth | AndyQ: cause thatd be just too lineo-like |
| 00:54.04 | kergoth | AndyQ: ;) |
| 00:54.07 | AndyQ | (that was a joke - there is no 1.5/speed*12) |
| 00:54.10 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:54.32 | AndyQ | kergoth: my use of the preprocessor is totally confined to #define MENU_OPTIONS 3 |
| 00:54.39 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:54.46 | AndyQ | kergoth: or #define NUMBER_OF_LINE_SEGMENTS 60 |
| 00:55.00 | AndyQ | I hate preprocessor stuff when it is overused |
| 00:55.00 | Dessimat0r | maybe Lineo hired someone with a brain tumour, who can interpret Lineo's code and add to it |
| 00:55.06 | kergoth | nothing wrong with the occasional define. though at times a const or a enum would be better. depends on context |
| 00:55.09 | AndyQ | you shouldn't need it |
| 00:55.14 | kergoth | yea |
| 00:55.35 | AndyQ | yeah - but I was taught to use #defines - enums weren't in fashion back then :) |
| 00:55.46 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:56.01 | AndyQ | reading someone elses code is complicated enough at the best of times without them trying to bo too clever |
| 00:56.21 | kergoth | AndyQ: agreed. clarity > cleverness |
| 00:56.25 | hobbs | I took a course on C++ in about 1999, but we were learning C++ as it was in 1992, complete with Borland TC 2.1. |
| 00:56.47 | AndyQ | we have some code at work (which I am the only one to understand as I worked with it for 3 years) but the bastard who wrote it had just learnt java and decided that everything should be abstracted out |
| 00:56.49 | kergoth | I learned c 2 years ago, c++ one year ago, neither of which from a class |
| 00:56.49 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:57.11 | kergoth | AndyQ: oh arent unnecessary layers and abstractions fun? |
| 00:57.21 | Dessimat0r | have you ever seen the source of PHPNuke? Its unintelligable crap |
| 00:57.24 | kergoth | AndyQ: thats code you need to make a map on a notebook to comprehend |
| 00:57.37 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: yes. i looked at it for a few minutes and said ah fuck it |
| 00:57.38 | AndyQ | which is sort of fine(ish) except he went too far and we have about 80-90 classes - 30 of which are interfaces, 15 or so are abstract classes and 1 of the remaining is actually useful and does the work! |
| 00:57.42 | Dessimat0r | rofl |
| 00:57.55 | kergoth | AndyQ: haha |
| 00:58.30 | AndyQ | and its my job every 2-3 months to explain how it works to the next person who works on it (I refused point blank to even touch it about 15 months ago - got fed up of it) |
| 00:58.36 | Dessimat0r | the PHPNuke aren't using PHP for its proper purpose - TO BE SIMPLE. Because of this, it is their downfall. |
| 00:58.41 | AndyQ | I'm slowly trying to erase it from my memory |
| 00:58.43 | AndyQ | hehe |
| 00:58.50 | hobbs | nuke is icky. :) |
| 00:58.57 | Dessimat0r | They are using it more like an overcomplicated language than a simplified one |
| 00:59.12 | AndyQ | but if I ever meet the guy who wrote it - well my freedom will be severly curtailed after my conviction :) |
| 00:59.19 | Dessimat0r | heh |
| 00:59.22 | hobbs | I actually wrote most of a rather nice "object-based" system in PHP. But with NO OBJECTS. :) |
| 00:59.29 | AndyQ | :) |
| 00:59.29 | hobbs | which works a million times better. :) |
| 00:59.40 | Dessimat0r | I hate PHPNuke. PHPNuke KILLS creativity |
| 00:59.55 | Dessimat0r | How many PHPNuke sites can YOU find on the internet? ;) |
| 01:00.04 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:00.14 | Dessimat0r | all wit hthe default theme, as well |
| 01:00.25 | Dessimat0r | since we all know how hard it is to make your own, specially for phpnuke |
| 01:00.32 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: if it were sane and simple, it would be good as it would reduce code duplication, having to reinvent the wheel |
| 01:00.36 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: but given the way it is now.. |
| 01:00.53 | Dessimat0r | yeah.. :/ |
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| 01:01.05 | kergoth | woot, 7 |
| 01:01.11 | kergoth | i'm getting hte fuck out of dodge, so to speak |
| 01:01.11 | AndyQ | ? |
| 01:01.11 | kergoth | bbl |
| 01:01.18 | kergoth`bbl | AndyQ: going home |
| 01:01.19 | AndyQ | hehe - safe trip home |
| 01:01.25 | Dessimat0r | cya |
| 01:03.02 | AndyQ | A kindergarten pupil told his teacher he had found a cat. She asked him if it was dead or alive. "Dead" she was informed. "How do you know" she asked her pupil. "Because I pissed in its ear and it didn't move", answered the child innocently. "You did WHAT?!?" the teacher exclaimed in suprise. "You know", explained the boy, "I leaned over and went 'Pssst!' and it didn't move." |
| 01:03.06 | AndyQ | from a website :) |
| 01:03.09 | AndyQ | LOL! |
| 01:03.42 | chouimat | AndyQ: so did you like Spiral Architect? |
| 01:04.12 | AndyQ | chouimat: hmmm it was OK - not as good as Ambeon or After Forever |
| 01:04.30 | chouimat | AndyQ: the album is like that |
| 01:04.44 | AndyQ | which one? Spiral Architect? |
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| 01:05.23 | chouimat | AndyQ: all the album are like the song I send you |
| 01:05.29 | AndyQ | k |
| 01:05.57 | AndyQ | chouimat: one of my favoritest songs ever.... |
| 01:07.36 | AndyQ | ping Dessimat0r |
| 01:08.00 | AndyQ | actually ping anyone who has updated from the latest unstable feed |
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| 01:14.30 | AndyQ | chouimat: shapeshifter - sort of cross between Slayer and Megadeth (early) |
| 01:15.15 | Dessimat0r | I've updated ;) |
| 01:15.55 | Dessimat0r | AndyQ: LOL @ joke up there |
| 01:15.56 | Dessimat0r | ;) |
| 01:16.10 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: you don't use feed from within AQPkg do you? |
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| 01:27.17 | bug1 | website down or is just me ? |
| 01:30.14 | AndyQ | bugl: its you - |
| 01:30.19 | AndyQ | http://www.openzaurus.org/oz_website/content/news works fine for me |
| 01:34.09 | AndyQ | so anyone fancy startig some gossip/rumours? |
| 01:35.40 | AndyQ | pah - boring :) |
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| 01:36.36 | Dessimat0r | AndyQ: I dl the feeds, hehe ;) |
| 01:36.46 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: lag or what :) |
| 01:36.49 | Dessimat0r | AndyQ: bloody xMMS no longer works in the latest unstable :/ |
| 01:36.51 | Dessimat0r | I need it! |
| 01:36.53 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 01:37.06 | Dessimat0r | AndyQ: was off doing something else ;) |
| 01:37.14 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: give pnis some shit when you next see him :) |
| 01:37.19 | Dessimat0r | heh |
| 01:37.22 | Dessimat0r | ibot seen pnis |
| 01:37.29 | | pnis <~pnis@caracas-0285.adsl.interware.hu> was last seen on IRC in channel #openzaurus, 3d 3h 51m 8s ago, saying: 'thanks'. |
| 01:37.37 | hobbs | yow. |
| 01:37.37 | Dessimat0r | 3 days ago... ;) |
| 01:37.50 | hobbs | actually, while we're on the subject of yow: |
| 01:37.51 | hobbs | ~yow |
| 01:38.02 | AndyQ | well - just added the final game back into SFCave (Gates) took me all of 10 minutes |
| 01:38.08 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 01:38.10 | Dessimat0r | quick! |
| 01:38.20 | AndyQ | I love it when an app design comes together :) |
| 01:38.52 | AndyQ | yup - just subclass a class, add the game logic - the drawing stuff is already done - nice and easy (and even better - nice and simple) |
| 01:39.05 | Dessimat0r | heh |
| 01:39.22 | AndyQ | so all I've got remaining before sfcave-sdl 1.0 is available is save state and difficulty levels |
| 01:40.01 | AndyQ | state is easy - gonna write a class similar to QConfig - would just use that but its now cross platform and doesn't rely on QT at all anymode |
| 01:40.12 | AndyQ | and difficulty levels is even easier |
| 01:40.22 | AndyQ | just time consuming and booooring |
| 01:40.54 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 01:41.01 | chouimat | hmmm anyone know how to use plucker-build? |
| 01:41.20 | Dessimat0r | AndyQ: you need to fix those display glitches ;) |
| 01:41.24 | AndyQ | sounds rather rude (if you put your fingers in your mouth, pull your lips apart sideways and say it :) |
| 01:41.41 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: Can't - its SDL issues (I think) |
| 01:41.54 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: if its me - buggered if I know what I'm doing wrong |
| 01:42.04 | Dessimat0r | AndyQ: Loads of spit flew out |
| 01:42.07 | AndyQ | put loads of debugging stuff in and it looks like all is hunky dory |
| 01:42.21 | AndyQ | Dessimat0r: lol - you didn't do it right :) |
| 01:42.24 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 01:42.42 | AndyQ | just liek the school trick - "two horses went up a hill and parted" |
| 01:43.04 | Dessimat0r | lmao |
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| 01:51.21 | AndyQ | OK, I'mm outta here - night all |
| 01:51.39 | hobbs | lata |
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| 02:14.27 | kergoth | hey |
| 02:15.21 | tux_mike_ | hey kergoth |
| 02:15.43 | kergoth | hey mike, hows it goin |
| 02:15.53 | tux_mike_ | ok. in lab right now |
| 02:16.41 | kergoth | ah |
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| 02:24.22 | Chemeleon | trying to execute a java script so I can run scorched earth, but it says java: command not found...is there some other way to execute it on the z? |
| 02:29.26 | Chemeleon | btw, I'm using the regular sharp rom |
| 02:29.33 | kergoth | Chemeleon: /join #zaurus |
| 02:30.54 | tux_mike_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:30.59 | tux_mike_ | doh |
| 02:31.07 | tux_mike_ | http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/01/10/financial1802EST3.DTL |
| 02:31.09 | tux_mike_ | :) |
| 02:33.23 | jmhodges | tux_mike: lol |
| 02:33.26 | jmhodges | niiice |
| 02:34.18 | tux_mike_ | this actually may be the best news for HDTV :) |
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| 02:35.39 | jmhodges | tux_mike: hehe |
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| 02:43.54 | ljp | blah |
| 02:45.32 | Dessimat0r | ibot: message to pnis XMMS is not working in Onyx4's latest unstable build. ;) |
| 02:46.01 | hobbs | why don't people just use memoserv? >:) |
| 02:46.32 | Dessimat0r | memoserv? |
| 02:46.34 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 02:49.28 | TheMasterMind1 | sup |
| 02:49.32 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: whats new |
| 02:55.36 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: nada. fixed that concurrency bug in the keyboard driver. tik sent me a new patch that averages out the battery % values to reduce the fluctuations |
| 02:56.14 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: sweet |
| 02:57.07 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: since ts is being a bitch, i'm taking a break from it and doing some of the little TODO items |
| 02:57.15 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: bkpush :) |
| 02:57.32 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: yea, good idea |
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| 03:20.40 | prpplague | kergoth: yeeeeeeeeeeee dogieeeeee, man ucb1200 make great fire works! |
| 03:22.27 | TheMasterMind1 | hehe |
| 03:23.05 | prpplague | smoke baby smoke |
| 03:23.39 | kergoth | prpplague: haha. let the magic smoke out again did we? |
| 03:23.42 | kolla | did anyone try those clocking tools? |
| 03:24.04 | kolla | wonder if I can downclock and save battery time, and still be able to play oggs :) |
| 03:24.38 | prpplague | kergoth: ohhh ya baby |
| 03:25.05 | prpplague | kergoth: nothing like using a polized cap the wrong way |
| 03:28.19 | prpplague | ucb1200 must have lots of copper, had really green flame! |
| 03:29.16 | TheMasterMind1 | prpplague: hey, btw, with those ide->cf things can you hotplug easily ? |
| 03:29.31 | prpplague | kergoth: makes you wonder, $10 in the back room on a pcb, or $10 or in the back roon on a stripper........ |
| 03:29.42 | prpplague | TheMasterMind1: hot plug no |
| 03:30.27 | prpplague | TheMasterMind1: i'd suspect you'd fry the 665 chip |
| 03:33.23 | kergoth | kolla: cpu isnt the major power consumer on the Z.. |
| 03:33.53 | kolla | the display is |
| 03:34.09 | kolla | and I have that turned off when I listen to music :) |
| 03:34.27 | kolla | xmms has this bad habit of turning it on between tracks though |
| 03:34.38 | prpplague | kolla: like getting married, its not the wife thats the problem, its the familty that comes along with the wife |
| 03:34.47 | kolla | :) |
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| 03:37.30 | noda | Moo! |
| 03:38.29 | prpplague | noda: poo |
| 03:38.31 | prpplague | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:38.32 | prpplague | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:38.32 | prpplague | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:38.32 | prpplague | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:38.32 | prpplague | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:38.32 | prpplague | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:38.36 | noda | :) |
| 03:39.14 | prpplague | later folks, i have a 1 ucb1200 smokin per night limit |
| 03:39.27 | kergoth | night dave |
| 03:39.29 | kergoth | hey noda |
| 03:39.56 | noda | Moo |
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| 03:41.47 | [DrEvil] | ok |
| 03:41.57 | [DrEvil] | what is that URL for the cross compiler? |
| 03:42.03 | MS_away | ibot toolchain |
| 03:42.05 | | rumour has it, toolchain is at http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/Toolchains, or http://openzaurus.org/official/toolchain/, or at http://www.csh.rit.edu/~jeffm/pub/cross/arm-linux/ppc/ which can be modified to work with Zaurus cross development |
| 03:42.05 | noda | ibot xcompile |
| 03:42.15 | noda | Bah :P |
| 03:43.40 | [DrEvil] | bah? |
| 03:43.50 | kergoth | hey MSpin |
| 03:43.51 | kergoth | sorat? |
| 03:43.53 | kergoth | sorta? |
| 03:43.58 | [DrEvil] | kergoth |
| 03:44.04 | noda | kergoth: How's TS treatin' ya? |
| 03:44.08 | kergoth | yo [DrEvil] |
| 03:44.14 | kergoth | noda: kicks me, leaves me for dead |
| 03:44.45 | MSpin | kergoth: hehe, just not really paying attention |
| 03:44.53 | noda | kergoth: Meh, sucks. |
| 03:44.57 | [DrEvil] | I should sign up for netflix again |
| 03:45.00 | MSpin | the roommate and I are gonna go get some food soon anyway |
| 03:45.14 | noda | kergoth: Are you sure it's the library and not the driver that's screwy? |
| 03:45.25 | TheMasterMind1 | sup noda |
| 03:45.26 | kergoth | noda: its the driver. |
| 03:45.32 | noda | TheMasterMind1: sup :) |
| 03:45.33 | kergoth | noda: the data at the lowest level, as read from the chip, is off. |
| 03:45.37 | noda | kergoth: Oh :) |
| 03:45.45 | TheMasterMind1 | noda: where's girl at? |
| 03:45.45 | noda | Well that makes things difficult :) |
| 03:45.48 | noda | TheMasterMind1: Home. |
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| 03:45.51 | TheMasterMind1 | weren't you meeting her tonight? |
| 03:46.19 | noda | Yeah, I saw her, told her how I felt, she said she didn't feel the same way, and then... I feel like such a better friend, and we talked about all sorts of stuff we couldn't talk about before. |
| 03:46.46 | noda | So I'm in a good mood - maybe the full force of the rejection will hit me tomorrow or something, but I've packed the day with stuff to do just in case. Right now, I'm happier than I've been for months :) |
| 03:47.33 | TheMasterMind1 | good for you |
| 03:47.36 | kergoth | noda: glad to hear it. |
| 03:47.40 | noda | :) |
| 03:48.04 | badl | noda: was it one of those slient type realtionships? |
| 03:48.27 | noda | badl: Erm... I'm madly in love with her and she doesn't even look twice at me -- THAT kind of relationship. |
| 03:48.40 | badl | oh - blindness! :D |
| 03:48.45 | noda | Just friends. |
| 03:49.06 | chouimat | noda: not know is worst than being rejected |
| 03:49.14 | kergoth | chouimat: exactly |
| 03:49.37 | noda | chouimat: Yeah, I've learned that -- especially with Girl :) |
| 03:49.47 | noda | (Since she's such a great friend) |
| 03:50.34 | chouimat | noda: maybe one day .... |
| 03:51.01 | noda | Well it's not like I'm going to find anyone else (at least, it doesn't feel that way) but I feel like I won't go insane any time soon, which is a good thing. |
| 03:51.37 | chouimat | noda: yup |
| 03:51.39 | noda | Of course, it's only been 2 hours or so since I left her place -- maybe that whole want-to-commit-suicide mood will hit me sometime soon :) |
| 03:58.48 | chouimat | noda: take a beer |
| 04:02.43 | [DrEvil] | where is opie configured in the buildroot |
| 04:03.32 | chouimat|zzzz | night |
| 04:04.36 | kergoth | nightc hardwire |
| 04:04.37 | kergoth | er |
| 04:04.38 | kergoth | night chouimat|zzzz |
| 04:05.03 | kergoth | [DrEvil]: packages -> GUI -> utils or something |
| 04:05.08 | kergoth | [DrEvil]: need to adjust that |
| 04:06.56 | [DrEvil] | there are 3 underscores near it |
| 04:06.57 | Dessimat0r | gn all |
| 04:07.32 | [DrEvil] | it wont let me do anything else |
| 04:07.52 | [DrEvil] | err |
| 04:07.53 | [DrEvil] | 3 dashes |
| 04:08.15 | kergoth | [DrEvil]: does it say opie needs blah blah blah? |
| 04:08.21 | [DrEvil] | yeah |
| 04:08.23 | kergoth | [DrEvil]: chances are oyu didnt enable something that opie needs |
| 04:08.26 | kergoth | [DrEvil]: go enable those things |
| 04:08.29 | [DrEvil] | but I think I have it all selected |
| 04:08.35 | kergoth | nope :) |
| 04:08.45 | kergoth | forget freetype under libs -> GUI? |
| 04:08.51 | kergoth | i usually forget freetype for some reason |
| 04:09.19 | [DrEvil] | it is selected |
| 04:11.46 | kergoth | then something else isnt. something in that list |
| 04:11.54 | [DrEvil] | mtd |
| 04:11.56 | [DrEvil] | found it |
| 04:12.09 | kergoth | cool |
| 04:13.41 | [DrEvil] | brb |
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| 04:29.08 | [DrEvil] | *sigh* |
| 04:29.59 | [DrEvil] | so why can't I download the sources for stuff like affix without having already built a kernel? |
| 04:31.31 | kergoth | err, you should be able to.. |
| 04:31.39 | kergoth | it shold download the kernel _sources_ first, but shouldnt try to build it |
| 04:31.42 | kergoth | if so, its a bug |
| 04:31.49 | [DrEvil] | I'm not |
| 04:32.03 | [DrEvil] | Makefile:19: /home/nocusr/buildroot-exported/output/kernel-version: No such file or directory |
| 04:32.04 | [DrEvil] | make[1]: *** No rule to make target `/home/nocusr/buildroot-exported/output/kernel-version'. Stop. |
| 04:32.05 | [DrEvil] | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/nocusr/buildroot-exported/packages/lirc' |
| 04:32.19 | kergoth | ahhh i was afraid you'd run into that |
| 04:32.26 | [DrEvil] | heh |
| 04:32.27 | kergoth | echo > output/kernel-version |
| 04:32.29 | kergoth | make sources |
| 04:32.32 | kergoth | that'll work around it |
| 04:32.48 | [DrEvil] | ok |
| 04:32.56 | [DrEvil] | I could always do a touch |
| 04:33.01 | kergoth | yep |
| 04:33.02 | kergoth | same deal |
| 04:33.05 | kergoth | just create the file |
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| 04:35.45 | [DrEvil] | something is amiss with the hostap site |
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| 04:46.59 | dscordia_ | any news from Sharp about the SD module yet? |
| 04:48.46 | TheMasterMind1 | no |
| 04:48.54 | dscordia_ | bah |
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| 05:01.41 | dscordia_ | night everybody |
| 05:06.15 | TheMasterMind1 | :q |
| 05:06.17 | TheMasterMind1 | err, oops |
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| 05:14.25 | tux_mike | hurray for learning about TV :) |
| 05:19.08 | tux_mike | http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q276304 microsoft's new push for security |
| 05:21.34 | oob | HAHA |
| 05:22.14 | oob | how long would it take to enter a 19,000 character password |
| 05:23.03 | tux_mike | let mesee |
| 05:24.15 | tux_mike | at a rate of 280 characters per min (about 40 wpm) it would take 1:08 |
| 05:25.01 | tux_mike | that is, if you got it right without errors and with only seeing ******** |
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| 05:29.50 | estebanx | hi all. |
| 05:30.45 | estebanx | is there any way to make an OSPACK file from a zImage and init.rd files? |
| 05:41.39 | [DrEvil] | not with any tools I know of |
| 05:41.51 | [DrEvil] | there is more to an OSPACK than those 2 files |
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| 05:45.38 | estebanx | i'm trying to flash my zaurus but i don't have an CF card. |
| 05:46.16 | estebanx | but i have a SD card but as far as understand there is no way to flash it using an SD card. |
| 05:48.47 | [DrEvil] | nope |
| 05:49.21 | [DrEvil] | cf is treated as an IDE device and thus needs no special driver |
| 05:49.27 | [DrEvil] | SD is somethnig else |
| 05:49.47 | [DrEvil] | what model Z do you have> |
| 05:51.21 | [DrEvil] | n/m |
| 05:51.25 | [DrEvil] | that wont work either |
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| 06:12.46 | estebanx | i have a 5500 |
| 06:13.36 | estebanx | and i don't want to buy an CF card just for flashing openzaurus. |
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| 07:56.54 | brlat | :-) |
| 07:57.15 | brlat | ibot |
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| 08:20.11 | brlat | anybody? |
| 08:20.32 | brlat | is there a brebuild ROM for OZ available? |
| 08:20.38 | brlat | prebuild |
| 08:24.29 | TheMasterMind1 | prebuild of what? |
| 08:24.39 | TheMasterMind1 | you can flash 3.0/3.1 and upgrade to the unstable feed |
| 08:24.41 | TheMasterMind1 | for the latest software |
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| 09:45.07 | [DrEvil] | why can I not retrieve the ResumeGuard source |
| 09:46.36 | Onyx4 | seems like the website is down temporarely |
| 09:46.39 | Onyx4 | not responding? |
| 09:47.13 | [DrEvil] | nope |
| 09:47.14 | [DrEvil] | and |
| 09:47.26 | [DrEvil] | o such directory `debian/pool/main/t/ttf-openoffice'. |
| 09:47.26 | [DrEvil] | SourceMethod->go: module->go failed with error code 0 |
| 09:47.26 | [DrEvil] | ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/t/ttf-openoffice/ttf-openoffice_1.0-2.diff.gz failed with error code 256 |
| 09:47.27 | [DrEvil] | make[1]: *** [/home/nocusr/buildroot-exported/stamps/.ttf-openoffice.source] Error 1 |
| 09:47.39 | Onyx4 | isn't that package deprecated now? |
| 09:47.56 | [DrEvil] | I dunno |
| 09:47.59 | [DrEvil] | it's still in the buildroot |
| 09:48.11 | Onyx4 | yeah I think it's turned off now in the def-configs |
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| 10:21.54 | mark | wb tronical |
| 10:22.00 | tronical | morning |
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| 11:32.38 | CheesyNipz | any one here |
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| 12:31.57 | AndyQ | lo |
| 12:32.15 | mark | hi AndyQ |
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| 12:46.02 | AndyQ | ibot seen drw |
| 12:46.02 | | drw <~drw@ppp-64-109-226-231.dialup.chcgil.ameritech.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #openzaurus, 18h 12m 57s ago, saying: '(hope to fix it today in opie cvs)'. |
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| 13:21.43 | AndyQ | hey Cloudchaser |
| 13:22.01 | oob | how do i add wlan-ctl to openzaurus ? |
| 13:22.15 | Cloudchaser | hiya! :) |
| 13:31.42 | AndyQ | lo chouimat |
| 13:32.00 | AndyQ | just go that Green Carnation - light of day |
| 13:32.08 | AndyQ | s/go/got |
| 13:32.16 | chouimat | shit! -24C this morning -32C with the wind :( |
| 13:32.22 | chouimat | AndyQ: so? |
| 13:32.42 | AndyQ | just started listening to it - so far not too bar at all |
| 13:33.53 | AndyQ | bad even :) |
| 13:34.07 | chouimat | AndyQ: don't type |
| 13:34.23 | AndyQ | hehe - dyslexic fingers today again :) |
| 13:38.38 | Cloudchaser | so whats new and exciting AndyQ? |
| 13:39.04 | AndyQ | well, just building SDL_mixer so I can start compiling SFCave-sdl for the Zaurus |
| 13:39.08 | AndyQ | fun fun fun :) |
| 13:39.36 | AndyQ | plus chouimat has been introducing me to loads of new music which I'm downloading frantically coz you can buy them here (tried today) |
| 13:40.00 | chouimat | AndyQ: can or can't? |
| 13:40.07 | AndyQ | cont |
| 13:40.12 | AndyQ | arrrrrrgh! |
| 13:40.14 | AndyQ | cant |
| 13:40.27 | AndyQ | I hate it when my fingers have a mind of their own! |
| 13:40.31 | chouimat | AndyQ: what keyboard layout you use? |
| 13:40.37 | chouimat | :) |
| 13:40.47 | AndyQ | very lucky with the first version - almost a freudian slip :) |
| 13:40.53 | AndyQ | chouimat: english |
| 13:41.00 | AndyQ | on a normal keyboard |
| 13:41.07 | chouimat | AndyQ: hehe |
| 13:41.13 | AndyQ | usually I'm fine but not today for some reason |
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| 13:52.10 | Cloudchaser | hello XavierXeon |
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| 14:09.19 | XavierXeon | hi Cloudchaser |
| 14:09.31 | Cloudchaser | how are things with you? |
| 14:10.02 | XavierXeon | not bad. i am just recording my old record collection onto cd's |
| 14:10.11 | Cloudchaser | neat ;) |
| 14:10.30 | XavierXeon | found a job ? |
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| 14:17.39 | Cloudchaser | no job yet :( |
| 14:17.53 | XavierXeon | bad luck ! |
| 14:18.53 | Cloudchaser | things aren't so good here on the job front |
| 14:19.08 | Cloudchaser | i signed up for school though to help me keep busy while i search for job |
| 14:19.18 | Cloudchaser | couple nights, saturday and 2 online classes |
| 14:19.22 | Cloudchaser | full time though :) |
| 14:19.43 | XavierXeon | what school ? |
| 14:19.59 | Cloudchaser | one of the connecticut community colleges |
| 14:20.24 | Cloudchaser | a criminal justice program...computer crime deterrence option |
| 14:21.10 | XavierXeon | would not be my thing, but if you like it and it keeps you occupied |
| 14:21.54 | Cloudchaser | hehe i'll let you know.. |
| 14:22.09 | XavierXeon | ;-) |
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| 14:26.05 | Horwitz | hi |
| 14:26.31 | Cloudchaser | hello |
| 14:26.58 | chouimat | AndyQ: btw my cat seems to enjoy very much Pantera :) |
| 14:27.10 | AndyQ | :) does she sleep through it? |
| 14:27.55 | chouimat | AndyQ: *he* sleep through it |
| 14:28.02 | AndyQ | ahhh - he :) |
| 14:28.23 | XavierXeon | no headbanging cat then |
| 14:28.40 | chouimat | XavierXeon: he sleep on the speaker |
| 14:28.46 | XavierXeon | lol |
| 14:28.56 | chouimat | XavierXeon: with his tail making the beat |
| 14:29.33 | XavierXeon | ah so its a tailbanging cat :) |
| 14:29.53 | AndyQ | lolk |
| 14:29.54 | AndyQ | lol |
| 14:29.58 | chouimat | AndyQ: he also enjoy a saucerfull ... from Pink Floyd |
| 14:30.14 | AndyQ | :) - likes Green Carnation BTW |
| 14:31.17 | chouimat | AndyQ: hehe, hard to categorize :) |
| 14:31.31 | AndyQ | yup - very wide mixture |
| 14:32.13 | chouimat | for those who don't know Green Carnation, it's a 60 minutes song |
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| 14:38.49 | AndyQ | OK GTG - later |
| 14:40.24 | XavierXeon | real lif is calling... |
| 14:42.58 | ljp | obviously your cat is deaf, and can't hear Pantera, otherwise he would run away screaming! |
| 14:44.27 | chouimat | ljp: no, it's a cat with very good musical taste |
| 14:44.48 | ljp | hmmm |
| 14:46.02 | ljp | I still say hes deaf |
| 14:46.09 | ljp | :D |
| 14:47.13 | chouimat | ljp: no he understand very well |
| 14:48.41 | chouimat | try the first herbal "quit smoking, potency booster, and fight terrorism in the world" patch |
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| 15:39.53 | Horwitz | re |
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| 16:19.41 | godsmoke | hey, anyone noticed a flaw in mp3 playback in OpenZaurus? |
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| 16:23.09 | AndyQ | hello |
| 16:23.34 | godsmoke | hi |
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| 17:12.50 | pnis | hello |
| 17:12.54 | AndyQ | hey pnis |
| 17:12.57 | pnis | hi AndyQ |
| 17:13.03 | AndyQ | hows things? |
| 17:13.08 | pnis | fine thanks |
| 17:13.15 | pnis | higher educations sucks |
| 17:13.19 | pnis | and for you? |
| 17:13.23 | AndyQ | lol - yup it does |
| 17:14.20 | pnis | anyway isn't libts perhaps missing from the libqte depends ? xmms won't start because of missing libts |
| 17:18.33 | pnis | what on earth makes any teacher think that there is a point in memorizing 120 theorems and 200 definitions |
| 17:18.43 | pnis | which I will forget 5 seconds after the exam |
| 17:18.45 | pnis | if not before |
| 17:18.50 | pnis | hehe |
| 17:19.00 | AndyQ | :) |
| 17:19.26 | pnis | AndyQ: did you study computer science? |
| 17:19.55 | AndyQ | nope - was going to but got a job doing exactly what I wanted to do just before going to uni |
| 17:20.05 | pnis | i see |
| 17:20.13 | pnis | what kind of job? |
| 17:20.17 | pnis | in the sex industry perhaps? |
| 17:20.27 | AndyQ | Developer for British Airways |
| 17:20.31 | pnis | cool |
| 17:20.43 | pnis | what things do you develop? |
| 17:20.47 | AndyQ | yup - loads of training (like serious amounts :) |
| 17:21.36 | AndyQ | worked on crew planning/rostering, trip planning (schedules), passenger and baggage transfer systems, crew checkin systems and currently woking on selling engines for the web site |
| 17:22.13 | AndyQ | plus worked quite a lot on the online checkin and self service checkin stuff (kiosks around the airport) |
| 17:22.30 | AndyQ | helped port the kiosk app from OS/2 C++ to java running on NT |
| 17:23.59 | pnis | aha |
| 17:24.01 | pnis | sounds good |
| 17:24.15 | AndyQ | yeah - I enjoy it loads - damn lucky though |
| 17:24.21 | pnis | cool |
| 17:24.26 | AndyQ | when I applied, 2000+ people applied for 12 jobs |
| 17:24.33 | AndyQ | was one of the lucky ones I guess |
| 17:24.33 | pnis | heh:) |
| 17:24.47 | pnis | luck is always a good thins |
| 17:24.48 | pnis | g |
| 17:24.49 | pnis | :) |
| 17:24.57 | AndyQ | yes indeed |
| 17:25.03 | pnis | how long have you been doing this? |
| 17:25.12 | AndyQ | 12 1/2 years |
| 17:25.17 | pnis | wow! |
| 17:25.22 | AndyQ | seems long but its gone so quickly |
| 17:25.28 | pnis | that is cool |
| 17:25.32 | pnis | if you still like it |
| 17:25.33 | pnis | indeed! |
| 17:25.43 | AndyQ | been fortunate to work in so many areas that each time its like changing company |
| 17:25.52 | pnis | aha |
| 17:25.54 | AndyQ | the environment/work is totally different |
| 17:26.14 | pnis | that's a good company to work at too, than |
| 17:27.01 | AndyQ | yeah - its odd, some people have been in the same job/area for years and years - I couldn't do that. As soon as it stops being a challenge then I move on |
| 17:27.15 | AndyQ | get bored if I'm not learning |
| 17:27.30 | AndyQ | thats probably why I like the Z so much |
| 17:27.34 | pnis | :) |
| 17:27.39 | AndyQ | forced me to learn linux properly |
| 17:27.42 | pnis | :) |
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| 17:27.48 | AndyQ | plus lots of other things |
| 17:27.57 | TheMasterMind1 | hi |
| 17:28.00 | pnis | aah i have to go clean up the snow |
| 17:28.04 | pnis | hi TheMasterMind1 |
| 17:28.08 | AndyQ | he TheMasterMind1 |
| 17:28.11 | AndyQ | hey even |
| 17:28.14 | pnis | later AndyQ |
| 17:28.16 | AndyQ | hee hee |
| 17:28.18 | AndyQ | later pnis |
| 17:28.19 | pnis | bye TheMasterMind1 |
| 17:28.21 | pnis | bye all |
| 17:28.41 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: is qmake available for Windows do you know? |
| 17:29.26 | TheMasterMind1 | yo kergoth,you around? |
| 17:29.29 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: no clue |
| 17:29.37 | AndyQ | damn :) |
| 17:30.34 | AndyQ | but SFCave works well with sound of the Zaurus - just need .19 kernel and get it coming out of the buzzer! |
| 17:30.47 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 17:30.52 | mark | ya know how far they've got with the touchscreen? |
| 17:30.52 | AndyQ | any joy with TS yeat or is it still behaving badly? |
| 17:30.57 | TheMasterMind1 | still crap |
| 17:31.01 | AndyQ | pah! |
| 17:31.06 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoths taking a break from it |
| 17:31.13 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: its just the opie part now isn't it? |
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| 17:31.16 | TheMasterMind1 | he fixed the keyboard concorruncy bug |
| 17:31.26 | TheMasterMind1 | and battery code now averages |
| 17:31.26 | mark | TheMasterMind1: pha, the slacker ;) |
| 17:31.49 | TheMasterMind1 | AndyQ: no, actually the kernel driver is giving the wrong X values |
| 17:31.59 | TheMasterMind1 | right where its read from the device, its wrong |
| 17:32.07 | TheMasterMind1 | s/device/chip/ |
| 17:40.45 | AndyQ | TheMasterMind1: so is it our driver thats wrong ? |
| 17:40.53 | AndyQ | or just something screwy? |
| 17:41.00 | AndyQ | somewhere else |
| 17:46.57 | TheMasterMind1 | yea something |
| 17:46.59 | TheMasterMind1 | i dunno enough about it |
| 17:49.40 | AndyQ | hehe - well, gtg meeting friends for dinner - later |
| 17:50.28 | Dilbert- | hi |
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| 17:51.29 | pnis | hi again |
| 17:53.15 | _ibz | could someone show me the output to `find / -name libts\*` please.. |
| 17:53.35 | carsten | _ibz: in which file/system? |
| 17:53.53 | _ibz | on oz. |
| 17:54.03 | _ibz | on root |
| 17:54.13 | carsten | then I can't help |
| 17:54.57 | _ibz | do you have the library on sharp? |
| 17:56.10 | _ibz | TheMasterMind1: libts. anything to do with touchscreen? |
| 17:56.30 | pnis | _ibz: that's for the touchscreen |
| 17:56.36 | pnis | _ibz: ipk is in unstable feed |
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| 17:56.45 | pnis | libts*.* |
| 17:56.56 | _ibz | pnis: thanx |
| 18:03.57 | pnis | np |
| 18:10.02 | TheMasterMind1 | _ibz: yes, we're using that now for ts stuff |
| 18:13.20 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: how is the new kernel advancing? |
| 18:17.51 | TheMasterMind1 | nothing much new lately |
| 18:17.56 | TheMasterMind1 | we got averaging into the battery code |
| 18:17.58 | TheMasterMind1 | thanks to tik |
| 18:18.06 | TheMasterMind1 | and fixed the keyboard concurrency bug |
| 18:20.04 | jmhodges | rassin frassin.. stupid usbnet |
| 18:20.05 | jmhodges | :) |
| 18:20.09 | jmhodges | whats up folks? |
| 18:20.17 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: cool |
| 18:20.22 | jmhodges | love hearing bug fixes :) |
| 18:20.22 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: how about the touch screen? |
| 18:20.24 | jmhodges | nice TheMasterMind1 |
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| 18:23.01 | pnis | how can one leave a message here on irc? |
| 18:23.19 | carsten | memo |
| 18:23.42 | carsten | pnis: /help memoserv |
| 18:23.47 | pnis | thanks |
| 18:24.12 | pnis | carsten: you mean in xchat(my irc client)? |
| 18:24.34 | carsten | its client-independant |
| 18:24.49 | pnis | No such command |
| 18:24.51 | pnis | it says |
| 18:25.09 | pnis | so it is supposed to work than? |
| 18:25.14 | TheMasterMind1 | pnis: /msg ibot botmail for person message goes here |
| 18:25.16 | carsten | _/msg memoserv help |
| 18:25.27 | pnis | ah thanks |
| 18:25.29 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: thanks |
| 18:25.32 | pnis | carsten: thanks |
| 18:25.37 | carsten | _/msg memoserv send carsten Message |
| 18:25.47 | mark | hi carsten :) |
| 18:25.56 | carsten | hehe, hi Mark |
| 18:26.22 | jmhodges | hey can someone help me out with this odd message from usbnet |
| 18:26.26 | jmhodges | hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-2, assigned address 16 |
| 18:26.26 | jmhodges | usb.c: USB device 16 (vend/prod 0x4dd/0x8004) is not claimed by any active driver. |
| 18:26.43 | jmhodges | is this a patch job gone wrong? |
| 18:28.23 | carsten | ok, new version of ODict just commited |
| 18:31.01 | Bovine | ibot serial |
| 18:31.02 | | from memory, serial is A means of operation meaning in series, or one after the other. or http://www.zauruszone.farplanet.net/wiki/index.php?SerialPort |
| 18:32.00 | Bovine | ibot serial mod |
| 18:32.01 | | Bovine: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 18:32.16 | Bovine | ibot serial modification |
| 18:32.17 | | Bovine: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 18:32.24 | Bovine | ibot Zaurus Serial |
| 18:32.25 | | Bovine: I give up, what is it? |
| 18:33.19 | Bovine | hrm, ok, there was a site that had instructions on modding a Sharp Z serial cable so it didn't block the keyboard, anyone got the URL handy? |
| 18:44.25 | TheMasterMind1 | jmhodges: same thing happens to me, its harmless afaik |
| 18:44.28 | TheMasterMind1 | just use usbnet |
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| 18:45.17 | jmhodges | well it just doesnt work :( |
| 18:45.24 | jmhodges | TheMasterMind1: it doesnt do anything after that |
| 18:46.09 | jmhodges | i repatched the src thinking that i may have screwed something up (its a pkg management thing long sotry) so right now im in the process of compiling my kernel |
| 18:46.09 | jmhodges | hmm.. |
| 18:46.26 | godsmoke | hey, anyone noticed a flaw in mp3 playback in OpenZaurus? |
| 18:46.26 | jmhodges | probably shouldnt have built it into the kernel.. should have module'd it shoudlnt i have? |
| 18:46.28 | jmhodges | ah well |
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| 19:04.17 | carsten | wow, I get an buserror if I start PIE |
| 19:04.18 | carsten | OPIE |
| 19:04.42 | pnis | that happened to me when a binary was cut in half |
| 19:05.15 | pnis | the bus error |
| 19:08.18 | carsten | so what do I have to do? |
| 19:08.27 | pnis | what gives you the bus error? |
| 19:09.46 | carsten | ok, now it segfaults: |
| 19:09.47 | carsten | # /etc/init.d/opie start |
| 19:09.47 | carsten | You seem to already have a /root/Applications directory. |
| 19:09.47 | carsten | Assuming it is the Opie Applications directory. Exiting. |
| 19:09.47 | carsten | Starting Opie.... |
| 19:09.47 | carsten | Segmentation fault |
| 19:10.18 | pnis | cool |
| 19:10.29 | pnis | i have no idea |
| 19:12.50 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: cool, exit(0) solved the segfault for xmms ! |
| 19:13.00 | pnis | TheMasterMind1: thanks for reminding me! |
| 19:13.18 | pnis | carsten: that is a good idea :) |
| 19:13.39 | pnis | carsten: so you are a developer in the kde project? |
| 19:14.09 | carsten | yes |
| 19:14.12 | carsten | how do you know? |
| 19:14.15 | carsten | well, it works now |
| 19:14.42 | pnis | carsten: I don't remember where I saw it |
| 19:14.47 | jmhodges | cool carsten :) |
| 19:14.48 | pnis | carsten: what do you do for kde? |
| 19:15.04 | carsten | mostly what Oxygen is |
| 19:15.29 | pnis | who is oxygen? |
| 19:15.31 | carsten | it is called Kalzium. Furthermore minor things like an extension for Konqueror to display a tooltip for .ts-files and such |
| 19:15.38 | carsten | pnis: ipkg install opie-oxygen ;) |
| 19:15.53 | pnis | carsten: I will check - as soon as aqpkg comes back to life |
| 19:16.09 | pnis | what does kalzium / oxygen do? |
| 19:16.15 | carsten | that is a periodic table |
| 19:16.15 | pnis | btw konqueror kicks ass imho |
| 19:16.24 | carsten | it does, esp with the safari-codfe |
| 19:16.25 | carsten | code |
| 19:16.41 | pnis | what kind of advanbcements did they make? |
| 19:16.50 | carsten | speed, speed and speed |
| 19:16.53 | pnis | cool |
| 19:17.03 | pnis | konqueror is alread the fastes browser |
| 19:17.24 | carsten | safari beats everyting |
| 19:17.26 | carsten | thing |
| 19:17.26 | jmhodges | i would enjoy konq more if i could get it to use my flash plugin ;) i stupidly build from src here :-D |
| 19:17.39 | carsten | jmhodges: flash works fine |
| 19:17.51 | pnis | carsten: cool, is it in cvs - which version will contain that code? |
| 19:17.53 | jmhodges | carsten: of course it does, im just too stupid to get it to work (or soemthign) |
| 19:18.03 | carsten | pnis: what code? |
| 19:18.09 | pnis | carsten: safari code |
| 19:18.12 | jmhodges | i do the whole "scan for plugins" etc .. bah, who cares |
| 19:18.15 | carsten | hehe. I refuse to use crap like Flash |
| 19:18.22 | pnis | flash worked for me |
| 19:18.24 | jmhodges | hehee |
| 19:18.32 | pnis | now it just eats 99% cpu, and than I kill it :) |
| 19:18.33 | carsten | pnis: some of the code is already backported to kde 3.1, most will be in 3.2 |
| 19:18.41 | pnis | carsten: i see |
| 19:18.51 | carsten | http://dot.kde.org/1041971213/1042147323/ |
| 19:18.56 | carsten | that is about safari |
| 19:19.17 | jmhodges | so what brought you to OZ ? |
| 19:19.31 | pnis | cool |
| 19:19.42 | carsten | jmhodges: me? The ipaq+zaurus I own :) |
| 19:19.46 | jmhodges | hehe nice |
| 19:19.52 | pnis | konqueror in kde 3.2 will be awesome it seems |
| 19:20.17 | pnis | carsten: what do you mean, you didn't like the sharp rom ? |
| 19:20.20 | pnis | :) |
| 19:20.23 | jmhodges | ok my kernel is done time to reboot |
| 19:20.24 | carsten | jmhodges: Harlekin told me about opie. Then I started coordinating i18n for opie and such |
| 19:20.39 | carsten | I bought the ipaq and did some more thing (webpage blah balh). |
| 19:20.54 | carsten | now I contribute code and such + coordinate opie-i18n-* |
| 19:21.03 | carsten | I like embeddedstuff and there is a lot to do |
| 19:21.21 | pnis | carsten: I should update the hungarian transalation - it is dropped now isn't it |
| 19:21.27 | carsten | yes, it is |
| 19:21.38 | carsten | but if you start sending me patches it will be moved beak |
| 19:21.39 | carsten | back |
| 19:21.39 | pnis | carsten: so I have to edit some files in opie-cvs ? |
| 19:21.47 | carsten | pnis: only the .ts' in cvs |
| 19:21.54 | pnis | carsten: ok, I will check! |
| 19:22.11 | carsten | Cool! |
| 19:22.40 | carsten | I have just written an article about opie in a big german mag. I hope that attracts some more devels |
| 19:22.43 | carsten | (and users) |
| 19:23.07 | Dilbert- | carsten: where ? |
| 19:23.20 | carsten | Dilbert-: LinuxMagzin |
| 19:23.24 | carsten | (or LinuxUser, don't know) |
| 19:23.40 | pnis | hi Dilbert- |
| 19:24.01 | carsten | why the hell is opie-i18n not in the feed? |
| 19:24.07 | carsten | kergoth: ? |
| 19:24.22 | Dilbert- | hi denes |
| 19:25.36 | carsten | Dilbert-: will come out in 10 days or so |
| 19:26.18 | Dilbert- | carsten: I usually don't read such mags, I will try not to forget :) |
| 19:26.28 | carsten | great! my hacks in oxygen worked! it is faster now :) |
| 19:26.38 | carsten | Dilbert-: I will announce it on the ML I gues |
| 19:26.38 | carsten | s |
| 19:27.03 | carsten | does anybody have a opie-i18n-de for me? |
| 19:27.10 | carsten | I can't compile here and now |
| 19:27.49 | Dilbert- | carsten: have you seen the article about opie in the american edition of the linux mag ? (If I'm not wrong, it was the american one) |
| 19:28.25 | carsten | nope |
| 19:28.26 | carsten | URL? |
| 19:29.48 | pnis | cool, now I am building opie |
| 19:30.01 | pnis | although I only want need aqpkg right now |
| 19:30.04 | pnis | :) |
| 19:30.11 | carsten | pnis: ipkg is fine, isn't it? |
| 19:30.27 | pnis | carsten: there is no aqpkg ipk in oz unstable feed |
| 19:30.33 | pnis | and the old one doesn't work anymore |
| 19:30.59 | carsten | no, ipkg |
| 19:31.19 | pnis | carsten: what do you mean exactly?:) |
| 19:31.31 | carsten | the ipkg-application |
| 19:31.33 | pnis | hm I am blind |
| 19:31.35 | carsten | to install software |
| 19:31.38 | carsten | ipkg install foo |
| 19:31.40 | pnis | ah hehe |
| 19:31.45 | pnis | that would work :) |
| 19:31.46 | carsten | Dilbert-: 23.1.2003 it will be out |
| 19:31.53 | pnis | and there is opie-aqpkg in the feed actually :) |
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| 19:32.51 | pnis | ah aqpkg was renamed to opie-aqpkg, so update of aqpkg didn't happen |
| 19:33.18 | TheMasterMind1 | ja |
| 19:33.41 | Dilbert- | carsten: it can't find the link anymore, it seems it wasn't the linux-mag, but another one |
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| 19:42.29 | pnis | hmm it will be hard to adjust to the new kernel when I upgrade |
| 19:42.38 | pnis | I will really miss usbdnet's kernel panics |
| 19:42.50 | carsten | hehe |
| 19:44.24 | pnis | ever tried recording while sshing into the Z with usbdnet? |
| 19:47.28 | pnis | cool, usbd died again, time to reboot |
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| 20:00.36 | mark | pnis: hah, fun |
| 20:01.24 | pnis | mark: what is fun? |
| 20:02.02 | mark | pnis: usbd crashing |
| 20:02.10 | pnis | mark: hehe, indeed |
| 20:03.08 | ljp | meow |
| 20:03.47 | ljp | fun is trying to remember convoluted MFC programming |
| 20:05.03 | carsten | pnis: write me a mail if you have probs/questions with opie-i18n-hu, ok? |
| 20:06.00 | pnis | carsten: alright,m thanks |
| 20:06.04 | carsten | bye |
| 20:27.01 | Bovine | ibot serial is also the Zaurus Serial Cable Mod at http://www.pellicosystems.com/demolinux/rs232mod/index.html |
| 20:27.07 | | okay, Bovine |
| 20:27.13 | Bovine | ibot serial |
| 20:27.15 | | methinks serial is A means of operation meaning in series, or one after the other. or http://www.zauruszone.farplanet.net/wiki/index.php?SerialPort, or the Zaurus Serial Cable Mod at http://www.pellicosystems.com/demolinux/rs232mod/index.html |
| 20:27.31 | Bovine | that took me 3 frigging hours to find |
| 20:35.59 | pnis | btw |
| 20:36.09 | pnis | what is a good way to write i18n transalation? |
| 20:36.19 | pnis | with accented local characters etc. |
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| 21:30.16 | pnis | qt linguist is the answer btw |
| 21:30.19 | pnis | for opie at least |
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| 22:11.07 | vforg37 | hello all |
| 22:11.20 | vforg37 | I have a quick question for you guys... |
| 22:11.30 | vforg37 | I want to use my Zaurus for every day, pim stuff |
| 22:11.43 | vforg37 | is the testing branch stable enough for that? or should I just stick to the old stable? |
| 22:12.10 | vforg37 | I've been playing around with it for a while, and I've used OZ before (the previous betas for 3.0) but stuck to the sharp rom |
| 22:12.17 | vforg37 | now I want to go back to OZ, but I want to know which to get? |
| 22:12.31 | vforg37 | I like the testing better, since it includes more, cooler apps (gnuboy, etc) |
| 22:12.43 | vforg37 | can any one chime in with advice? |
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| 22:19.41 | frankps | good night from norway |
| 22:23.48 | Horwitz_ | re |
| 22:26.00 | pnis | re Horwitz_ |
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| 22:59.06 | Horwitz | how do i get a german keyboard layout with oz? |
| 23:03.34 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | use "keys" |
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| 23:06.47 | jmhodges | hehe |
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| 23:20.14 | KallDrexx | hola |
| 23:21.22 | jmhodges | heya |
| 23:22.34 | KallDrexx | heh |
| 23:22.42 | KallDrexx | you guys see the hacked riaa.org site before it was taken down? |
| 23:23.07 | pnis | I didn't |
| 23:23.12 | pnis | was it funny? |
| 23:23.59 | KallDrexx | http://kalldrexx.shacknet.nu/0wn3d.htm I saved it :0 |
| 23:24.01 | KallDrexx | ;) |
| 23:25.37 | pnis | hehe:] |
| 23:25.38 | pnis | funny |
| 23:25.43 | KallDrexx | i know :) |
| 23:25.54 | KallDrexx | he had riaa.org hosting the p2p downloads :D |
| 23:26.43 | pnis | hehe |
| 23:27.13 | pnis | time to go to sleeop |
| 23:27.18 | pnis | good night all |
| 23:27.18 | KallDrexx | night |
| 23:27.24 | pnis | bye |
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| 23:50.10 | ljp | oh my god thats too funny |
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| 23:57.26 | AndyQ | hi |
| 23:57.36 | ljp | hi |