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| 02:05.54 | Piete | anyone know if picogui is still a little b0rken on OZ? |
| 02:11.38 | kergoth`bbl | Piete: ask scanline, he maintains the picogui project in general. |
| 02:12.15 | Piete | kergoth`bbl: yea, but he's not on right now, so I just wondered if anyone else knew :) |
| 02:12.44 | kergoth`bbl | yes, he is |
| 02:12.58 | kergoth`bbl | Piete: in #openembedded and on #picogui |
| 02:13.06 | Piete | ah, ty |
| 02:13.08 | kergoth`bbl | Piete: read the topic of this channel |
| 02:13.09 | kergoth`bbl | heh |
| 02:14.14 | treke|home | too many channels |
| 02:14.49 | Piete | kergoth`bbl: I asked here, since on the Openembedded topic, it says that " OZ/OpenZaurus is essentially the zaurus-5500/linux incarnation", so my understaning was that #openzaurus is for zaurus related discussion. And I didn't think it was a 'development' question :) It was just a simple q ;) |
| 02:15.12 | kergoth`bbl | yep, this was the right place to ask |
| 02:15.17 | kergoth`bbl | just happens scan isnt in both channels :) |
| 02:15.44 | Piete | :) |
| 02:16.32 | Piete | treke|home: hehe, yup |
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| 03:00.18 | kergoth | Alright are there any OpenZaurus users and/or developers who can read and understand japanese? |
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| 07:11.39 | hkan | What gets better performance? |
| 07:11.58 | hkan | mplayer or opie-mediaplayer which is on xine-libs? |
| 07:12.15 | kergoth | opieplayer2 uses xine |
| 07:12.19 | kergoth | opieplayer1 doesnt |
| 07:12.21 | kergoth | mplayer doesnt |
| 07:12.21 | kergoth | :) |
| 07:12.39 | hkan | Which one do you think gets better performance? |
| 07:12.58 | kergoth | dont know if anyone has gotten any numbers |
| 07:13.04 | kergoth | both xmms/mplayer and op2 work fine in my experience |
| 07:13.14 | hkan | Yea Same here. |
| 07:13.34 | hkan | Is there a limitation on the frames per second you can get on the sl5500's screen? |
| 07:14.24 | hkan | I find the refresh rate on it causes ghosting. |
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| 07:15.50 | hkan | I found that mplayer decodes video better then op2, but op2 manages to decode audio better. |
| 07:17.05 | hkan | I don't trust my word tho. |
| 07:17.08 | hkan | d:P |
| 07:18.54 | hkan | Whats the recommend fps for movies on the zaurus? |
| 07:32.25 | hkan | I could probably boot netbsd with ease on the zaurus? |
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| 07:50.29 | *** topic/#openzaurus by kergoth -> OpenZaurus project - http://openzaurus.org/ || development discussion in #openembedded .. for now || OpenZaurus 3.1rc2 released. |
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| 08:41.19 | *** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus project - http://openzaurus.org/ || development discussion in #openembedded .. for now || OpenZaurus 3.1rc2 released. |
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| 11:23.13 | supermatt | hm |
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| 12:07.29 | supermatt | does the testing feed now contain rc2 ipks? |
| 12:11.08 | supermatt | I installed opie-mediaplayer2 (on rc1) and now opie segfaults on startup |
| 12:22.26 | kolla | cool |
| 12:32.05 | thaforze | rc2..... time for some flashing.... |
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| 14:50.47 | hamsta | hi |
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| 14:52.41 | carsten | moin moni |
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| 15:15.37 | supermatt | ibot: feed |
| 15:15.37 | | well, feed is a package repository. See http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/IpkgFeeds, http://www.zauruszone.com/feed, http://openzaurus.org/official/{stable,testing,unstable}/feed, or http://www.zauruii.com/zfi |
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| 16:01.51 | kergoth`zzz | hey |
| 16:11.15 | supermatt | will it get progressively emptier and echoyer in here? |
| 16:11.25 | kergoth | *pin drop* |
| 16:11.35 | supermatt | :) |
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| 16:12.02 | mrwoody | ibot: zmencoder |
| 16:12.03 | | zmencoder is, like, at http://63.194.216.219/zmencoder.sh.txt |
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| 16:48.01 | noda | Moo! |
| 16:48.09 | kergoth | yo noda |
| 16:48.15 | kergoth | go install oz3.1rc2 |
| 16:48.19 | noda | kergoth: 3.1rc2 is released???? WOO! |
| 16:48.24 | kergoth | :) |
| 16:48.31 | noda | That means the kernel's running! With SD/irda? |
| 16:48.33 | kergoth | no |
| 16:48.37 | noda | Oh :P |
| 16:48.39 | kergoth | it means i wanted a release out the door |
| 16:48.39 | kergoth | its on 2.4.6 |
| 16:48.43 | noda | Oh :( |
| 16:48.44 | kergoth | go read the damn news page you designed |
| 16:48.45 | kergoth | :P |
| 16:48.55 | noda | lol |
| 16:49.11 | kergoth | the plan of attack for future versions is in the TODO in bk |
| 16:49.18 | kergoth | i'll add it to the news page so people know what my plans are |
| 16:49.45 | noda | Okay... I'll maybe have time this weekend to get a rudimentary TODO system up... |
| 16:50.13 | kergoth | changelog is pretty sparse. its basically a bugfix releaes |
| 16:50.14 | kergoth | release |
| 16:50.18 | kergoth | other than the hostap driver upgrade |
| 16:50.36 | noda | Didn't Onyx4 make op2 build in the buildroot? :) |
| 16:50.44 | kergoth | yes |
| 16:50.46 | kergoth | and its in the feed |
| 16:50.50 | noda | Awesome :) |
| 16:50.50 | kergoth | actually |
| 16:50.52 | kergoth | tronical did |
| 16:50.58 | noda | Oh, gotcha :) |
| 16:51.00 | kergoth | aka simon hausmann, the konq/e maintainer |
| 16:51.07 | kergoth | he added the konq build from source as well |
| 16:51.15 | noda | Really? Great! |
| 16:51.26 | noda | It still crashes often, though, right? |
| 16:51.32 | kergoth | that reminds me, my feed update didnt include the packages outside the core |
| 16:51.37 | kergoth | i havent done a full feed build |
| 16:51.43 | noda | Bah :) |
| 16:52.00 | noda | Okay, I'm gonna shut down so I can put my wireless card in and give my Z networking again.... brb :) |
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| 16:58.01 | noda | Whee, now to install wireless-tools :) |
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| 17:14.03 | carsten | ipkg remove -force-removal-of-dependent-packages libopie1 takes how long? I waited for ~10 minutes now and nothing happend... |
| 17:14.48 | noda | Well that's gonna remove a hell of a lot of packages... |
| 17:15.17 | carsten | yes, about 20 |
| 17:15.25 | carsten | but 10 minutes is a long time |
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| 17:21.14 | chouimat | http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/01/030124074245.htm |
| 17:26.24 | kolla | what a lame usage of upper case |
| 17:28.57 | kergoth`mtg | carsten: it can vary. The Z's old jffs2 can end up with a process hanging during the flash writes/erases |
| 17:29.05 | kergoth`mtg | carsten: just let it go, it'll finish eventually |
| 17:29.46 | carsten | ok |
| 17:30.00 | carsten | shall I install libopie or libopie1? |
| 17:30.01 | kergoth | carsten: i've seen a insgle package install take 25 minutes one time |
| 17:30.06 | kergoth | carsten: they're the same |
| 17:30.15 | kergoth | carsten: libopie1 is the actual package, it Provides libopie iirc |
| 17:30.16 | carsten | opie doesnt start here anylonger (after the update..) |
| 17:30.18 | kergoth | libopie1 is the new package name |
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| 17:30.34 | kergoth | carsten: opie-taskbar, opie-common, and opie-base are installed? |
| 17:30.49 | carsten | they have been before. I check again |
| 17:31.10 | kergoth | k |
| 17:31.18 | kergoth | what error message? |
| 17:31.21 | carsten | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for opie-taskbar: |
| 17:31.21 | carsten | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:31.26 | kergoth | I need to fix that opie-common stomps on opie-taskbar thing |
| 17:31.26 | carsten | # ipkg install libopie11 |
| 17:31.26 | carsten | Multiple providers (0). Not defaulting providers automatically.Please request one of the above providing packages by name.Cannot find package libopie11. |
| 17:31.26 | carsten | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:31.33 | kergoth | carsten: force depends it, that bug is fixed |
| 17:31.38 | kergoth | carsten: in cvs anyway |
| 17:31.40 | carsten | ah... |
| 17:32.14 | kergoth | I'll fix the opie-common stomps on previous opie-base bug today |
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| 17:33.53 | carsten | # /etc/init.d/opie start |
| 17:33.53 | carsten | You seem to already have a /root/Applications directory. |
| 17:33.53 | carsten | Assuming it is the Opie Applications directory. Exiting. |
| 17:33.53 | carsten | Starting Opie.... |
| 17:33.53 | carsten | Illegal instruction |
| 17:34.07 | carsten | opiebase is installed and thus opie-taskbar and such (AFAIK) |
| 17:34.09 | kergoth | ew |
| 17:34.24 | kergoth | make sure libpng, libjpeg, zlib1g are installed |
| 17:36.21 | carsten | all 3 are uptodate |
| 17:36.41 | kergoth | my opie starts flawlessly here |
| 17:36.45 | kergoth | ipaq or Z? |
| 17:36.49 | kergoth | what feed? |
| 17:36.49 | carsten | Z |
| 17:36.51 | carsten | testing |
| 17:36.53 | kergoth | upgrade or flash? |
| 17:36.57 | carsten | upgrad |
| 17:36.58 | carsten | e |
| 17:37.06 | carsten | rc1 --> rc2 |
| 17:37.17 | kergoth | hmm |
| 17:38.44 | carsten | I will do ipkg remove -forceblahblah opie-base |
| 17:38.49 | carsten | and then reinstall it |
| 17:39.08 | kergoth | k |
| 17:39.52 | kergoth | god i cant wait to ditch this old ass kernel |
| 17:39.54 | kergoth | I'm sick of it |
| 17:40.10 | carsten | ipkg remove -force-removal-of-dependent-packages opie-base should be perfect, right? |
| 17:40.18 | kergoth | yup |
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| 18:23.37 | carsten | kergoth: it is still not even one message on the screen... |
| 18:23.41 | carsten | 45 minutes now |
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| 18:32.17 | Dessimat0r | lo all |
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| 19:18.41 | hamsta | btw.; thx to all developers 4 OZ3.1rc2 :-) |
| 19:21.46 | kergoth | hamsta: working well for you? |
| 19:24.14 | hamsta | yeah, really great... actually I am chatting using OZ :-) |
| 19:25.58 | kergoth | nice :) |
| 19:27.06 | mewyn | kergoth: so, you gonna get it? |
| 19:28.46 | kergoth | mewyn: XM? |
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| 19:29.56 | mewyn | yah |
| 19:30.04 | kergoth | mewyn: hell yes i am |
| 19:30.11 | kergoth | mewyn: i want that boombox unit in my garage for workouts |
| 19:30.13 | kergoth | hehe |
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| 19:30.42 | mewyn | getting the delphi setup then? |
| 19:30.53 | kergoth | most likely |
| 19:30.56 | kergoth | havent decided on details |
| 19:31.28 | mewyn | its either that or the sony that's 100 more |
| 19:41.16 | mewyn | glad i'm not the only one hooked on this stuff :) |
| 19:41.26 | kergoth | i'm really impressed |
| 19:41.29 | mewyn | yah |
| 19:42.45 | Twiun | evenin' folks |
| 19:48.43 | mewyn | hey Twiun |
| 19:48.54 | Twiun | how goes? |
| 19:49.55 | mewyn | decent |
| 19:50.48 | mewyn | damn |
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| 19:51.05 | mewyn | mewyn is in use on aim |
| 19:54.12 | bisho | kergoth`food: I'm updating my mirror |
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| 20:12.14 | kergoth`food | bisho: thanks.. does sf have rsync? thatd make our livves easier. |
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| 21:30.00 | bisho | kergoth: I don't know if sf hash rsync |
| 21:33.22 | bisho | kergoth: now its updated... |
| 21:33.37 | bisho | You can put again the mirror up. :) |
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| 23:45.25 | LordVan | nite all |
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