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| 00:34.41 | gaurdian | anyone here ? |
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| 01:48.31 | gaurdian | ok...who here is the wireless guru ? |
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| 02:01.50 | jurrie | any reason not to go from RC1 -> RC2? |
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| 04:01.36 | Lazerdye | Hi all, I just upgraded from OZ3.0 to OZ3.1rc2, and when I plug my WCF11 card in it says, "Unsupported Card". Is there a quick way to fix this, or should I go back to 3.0? |
| 04:01.49 | Lazerdye | WCF11 = 802.11b wireless CF card. |
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| 04:13.16 | chouimat|Zzzzz | night |
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| 05:51.57 | nagROM | rc2 is nice. |
| 05:52.07 | kergoth | thanks. it working well for you? |
| 05:52.12 | nagROM | the resume in crade bug is still there though. |
| 05:52.15 | kergoth | yep |
| 05:52.23 | kergoth | it wont be going away anytime soon |
| 05:52.37 | kergoth | thats one of those things that'll likely go away with the kernel upgrade already, so its not worth spending time on |
| 05:52.46 | nagROM | it's fine by me. i've trained myself not to make it happen. |
| 05:53.03 | nagROM | only question. how do i get op2 to run? |
| 05:53.07 | kergoth | not sure |
| 05:53.14 | kergoth | you have to install an assload of libraries |
| 05:53.24 | kergoth | libxine, libmad, libogg, libvorbixidec, afaicr |
| 05:53.30 | nagROM | bahh. anything else that plays mp3's and oogs? |
| 05:53.32 | kergoth | GRR! |
| 05:53.40 | kergoth | nagROM: mplayer/xmms-e |
| 05:53.49 | kergoth | my fucking company network keeps dropping |
| 05:53.54 | kergoth | I cant get any coding done |
| 05:54.11 | SoopaKoop | you need the network to code? |
| 05:54.12 | nagROM | you can't do it on your computer? |
| 05:54.20 | kergoth | I'm not doing the devleopment locally |
| 05:54.26 | kergoth | this box is a windows machine i use for gaming |
| 05:54.27 | nagROM | i figured. |
| 05:54.33 | kergoth | I'm using a smp box at work for my dev |
| 05:54.35 | kergoth | bleh |
| 05:54.48 | kergoth | I need to get the shit committed into cvs/bk at the very least so i can switch to another box elsewhere |
| 05:54.57 | nagROM | yee haw. |
| 05:55.03 | nagROM | good luck with that. |
| 05:55.05 | kergoth | come on network.. come back to me |
| 05:55.28 | kergoth | nagROM: qt/e 2.3.4-beta4 has a way to rotate on the fly |
| 05:55.33 | kergoth | nagROM: i added it to opie.. its sweet |
| 05:55.41 | kergoth | you pick a new rotation, hit OK, and boom, opie is rotated |
| 05:55.43 | kergoth | no restart |
| 05:55.47 | nagROM | nice. |
| 05:55.55 | kergoth | need it for the c700, cause its lcd can flip |
| 05:56.00 | james_lan | nice |
| 05:56.02 | kergoth | so it needs to rotate the display when that happens on the fly |
| 05:56.10 | nagROM | i like the new power applet. |
| 05:56.12 | kergoth | qtopia on the c700 does it |
| 05:56.20 | kergoth | ah yeah, harlekin merged the batteryapplet and batteryapplet-ipaq |
| 05:56.30 | kergoth | now its one that adapts depending on what device its on |
| 05:56.30 | nagROM | so you have started c700 dev? |
| 05:56.42 | kergoth | nagROM: some. I'm adding the c700 support to opie as we speak |
| 05:56.50 | kergoth | I want to ditch this damn embedix |
| 05:56.56 | james_lan | kergoth: that in rc2? |
| 05:57.08 | kergoth | james_lan: on the fly rotation? |
| 05:57.08 | nagROM | i want to go to japan and pick up a bunch of c700's. |
| 05:57.17 | kergoth | james_lan: no. the qt in rc2 has it, but opie doesnt utilize it |
| 05:57.19 | james_lan | kergoth: yes |
| 05:57.27 | nagROM | i think i'm going to go to japan to visit my dad anyway. |
| 05:57.29 | kergoth | nagROM: not wanting to spend the cash to dynamism eh? |
| 05:57.31 | james_lan | ah |
| 05:57.44 | nagROM | 700 is a waste of money for what you get. |
| 05:57.58 | nagROM | granted it is cool but not 700 dollars cool. |
| 05:58.05 | kergoth | i dunno man |
| 05:58.07 | kergoth | its _really_ cool |
| 05:58.09 | kergoth | :) |
| 05:58.18 | kergoth | this is probably the best LCD i've seen to date |
| 05:58.20 | nagROM | if it had 128 megs of ram i would reconsider. |
| 05:58.27 | kergoth | yeah 32 is a bit sparse |
| 05:58.31 | kergoth | 64/64 woudlve been nice |
| 05:58.35 | kergoth | but it'll do |
| 05:58.38 | james_lan | that is a 1GHz laptop now (one of the new sonys or librettos) isn't that big for the jump. |
| 05:58.50 | james_lan | ($700) |
| 05:59.07 | nagROM | seems like somone would have figured out the ram upgrade by now. |
| 05:59.32 | nagROM | i mean camon. even the shit palm can be upgraded to 32 megs |
| 05:59.46 | kergoth | heh, i dont think you realize how complex that operation would be |
| 05:59.55 | nagROM | and the ipaq hackers have goteen up to 256 |
| 06:00.02 | nagROM | i have no idea. |
| 06:00.13 | kergoth | it wont happen for the 5000d/5500 |
| 06:00.18 | nagROM | i'm just whining because i want more ram. |
| 06:00.22 | kergoth | I dont know about the a300/b600/c700, i dont have detailed hardware information |
| 06:00.24 | james_lan | we could do what some agenda hackers did - use a cpu general i/o to be another ram address line (sodered on top of the old one) |
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| 06:00.54 | kergoth | hunger_: hey tobias. hows life |
| 06:01.04 | nagROM | doesn't the 5500 chipset support 128 megs of ram? |
| 06:01.09 | james_lan | that is my complaint (though I haven't tried it) with the 5600/b500/c700 |
| 06:01.15 | kergoth | nagROM: ? |
| 06:01.17 | james_lan | btw is it b500 or b600? |
| 06:01.41 | kergoth | i dont recall |
| 06:01.45 | nagROM | the sa1100 whatever. i thought it supported 128 megs of ram. |
| 06:01.57 | kergoth | nagROM: the fact that the upgrade wont happen has nothing to do with the cpu |
| 06:02.03 | kergoth | nagROM: the cpu can handle it |
| 06:02.10 | james_lan | yes the dec strongarm does, but the chipset, etc have to handle it |
| 06:02.27 | kergoth | the 5000d/5500 cache memory access through the sharp proprietary gate/array |
| 06:02.30 | nagROM | so whats the reason it wont happen? |
| 06:02.31 | kergoth | I dont know what would be involved. |
| 06:02.42 | james_lan | brb. moving a box |
| 06:02.58 | kergoth | but having spoken with a number of hardware hackers, it wont be happening anytime soon, if at all |
| 06:03.22 | nagROM | but jesus. this girl has big tits. |
| 06:03.31 | kergoth | I mean shit, I've had this Z for over a year, and I still dont have specs on the sharp proprietary locomo chip. |
| 06:03.37 | kergoth | _finally_ i'll be getting them |
| 06:03.43 | kergoth | and those specs will be in japanese |
| 06:03.47 | kergoth | and likely a _scanned_ pdf |
| 06:04.02 | nagROM | whats the locomo chip. |
| 06:04.10 | kergoth | its the main chip in the Z other than the cpu |
| 06:04.16 | kergoth | memory acces goes through it |
| 06:04.22 | kergoth | it generates the clocks for the MCP interface |
| 06:04.30 | james_lan | back |
| 06:04.38 | kergoth | runs keyboard, long time timer, SD, DACs for the headphone out, etc etc etc |
| 06:05.03 | james_lan | (left the kb and mouse for that box someplace else, oops --- sniching time ) |
| 06:05.22 | kergoth | cmon digi network.. come back up.. work with me here |
| 06:05.45 | james_lan | basically everything but pcmcia if I recall correctly (or is that in there as well)? |
| 06:05.50 | kergoth | I need to get my ass out of Minnesota |
| 06:05.56 | kergoth | james_lan: pcmcia is run by the scoop chip |
| 06:06.03 | james_lan | Kansas here |
| 06:06.03 | nagROM | we are in essentially the same boat. |
| 06:06.17 | kergoth | james_lan: mic in, touchscreen, buzzer out, and a bunch of other items are run by the tc35143af chip |
| 06:06.18 | nagROM | is it colder than hell in minn? |
| 06:06.20 | kergoth | those are the 3 main chips in the Z |
| 06:06.25 | kergoth | nagROM: yes |
| 06:06.33 | kergoth | i'm so sick of our winters, i really am |
| 06:06.37 | kergoth | oh, and thel ack of tech jobs |
| 06:06.39 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:06.50 | nagROM | there is a lack of tech jobs everywhere. |
| 06:06.54 | kergoth | true that |
| 06:06.55 | james_lan | heh |
| 06:06.58 | james_lan | true |
| 06:07.01 | kergoth | but it was never very good here, even in the prime ;) |
| 06:07.08 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:07.20 | kergoth | pierre who lineo canned is playing billiards professionally |
| 06:07.29 | nagROM | haha. |
| 06:07.30 | kergoth | some other guy they laid off is making cabinets |
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| 06:07.37 | kergoth | :) |
| 06:07.53 | james_lan | touch of irony for some reason there. |
| 06:07.56 | nagROM | yeh. i know a buch of people who had tech jobs and now are either living off of unemployment or working at fast food joints. |
| 06:08.05 | kergoth | yeah |
| 06:08.19 | kergoth | I'd _love_ to quit my job in tech support before I go postal, but in this market, i'll stick it out |
| 06:08.36 | kergoth | and take lots of vacations |
| 06:08.38 | kergoth | bleh |
| 06:08.40 | nagROM | i contemplated selling drugs. |
| 06:08.42 | james_lan | ow |
| 06:09.22 | kergoth | gaurdian: ack |
| 06:09.24 | james_lan | kopete is working rather well. |
| 06:09.44 | kergoth | I'm making 40k now in unix tech support. its not much, but it pays the mortgage |
| 06:09.47 | gaurdian | yup..was lead sysadmin till dot.bomb blew up |
| 06:10.09 | james_lan | I am studying to be something like that (and get a bit of money) as an anthropologist. |
| 06:10.15 | gaurdian | luckilly, we dident have a lot of bills and saved $$ |
| 06:10.24 | kergoth | I swear to god I'm going to kill something at some point here |
| 06:10.26 | kergoth | james_lan: thats cool |
| 06:10.38 | kergoth | I have no idea what I want to do professionally |
| 06:10.47 | kergoth | but I'm thinking it wont have anything to do with computers |
| 06:10.48 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:11.00 | nagROM | i'm just going to take underwater welding courses. 70 grand a year and you get 5 months off at a time. |
| 06:11.45 | nagROM | you have to work on an oil rig or a ship for 7 months at a time. |
| 06:12.07 | nagROM | but hey. can't beat 5 months off. |
| 06:12.22 | nagROM | goodnight. |
| 06:12.24 | kergoth | night nagROM |
| 06:12.25 | james_lan | (sadly I know more than most cs masters students about computers, I may not be able to outprogram them (out debug, definately), but in just about every other are.( That is annoying, someone with a masters should know something.) |
| 06:12.26 | james_lan | night |
| 06:12.57 | kergoth | I'm thinking I may go back to school for EE |
| 06:13.05 | kergoth | just to get the piece of paper |
| 06:13.14 | kergoth | then do the real learning under some folks i know's guidance |
| 06:14.06 | james_lan | I am seeing a lot of people just get the paper and have it mean nothing (can't tell I don't like the cs department (as a whole) at my university can you?) |
| 06:15.05 | kergoth | yep |
| 06:15.14 | SoopaKoop | kergoth, do you have any SS's of you and OZ at 640x480? |
| 06:15.19 | kergoth | i know it means nothing really, but I'd like it to get myself into the door |
| 06:16.49 | kergoth | SoopaKoop: fraid not, I've seen opie at 640x480 before. opie isnt on the c700 yet, I'm working on that as we speak actually |
| 06:17.06 | kergoth | SoopaKoop: feel free to build it for x86 and run it on the linux FB if you want to see how it looks |
| 06:21.06 | james_lan | kergoth: network back up? |
| 06:21.21 | kergoth | its going up and down |
| 06:21.32 | kergoth | havent gotten in long enough to save my damn patch against cvs and scp it somewhre htough :) |
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| 06:21.59 | kergoth | hey mdz_ |
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| 06:22.17 | kergoth | Sugar: wb |
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| 06:22.20 | Sugar | Thanks, kergoth |
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| 06:29.46 | effy | kergoth: have you ever compiled the Qtopia source? |
| 06:30.33 | kergoth | effy: of course |
| 06:30.44 | kergoth | effy: how do you think opie came about? we started by making alterations to the qtopia sources |
| 06:30.48 | kergoth | effy: :) |
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| 06:32.40 | kergoth | Sugar: make me a long island |
| 06:32.47 | effy | hehe ok |
| 06:33.34 | effy | I'm trying to compile the 1.6 source, and it doesnt seem to have a file src/3rdparty/libraries/freetype/ftsystem.o |
| 06:33.47 | effy | and I assume the source file would be ftsystem.c, but there isnt one |
| 06:34.07 | kergoth | that path sounds like a path in the qt/e sources |
| 06:34.08 | kergoth | odd |
| 06:34.12 | kergoth | I havent tried building qtopia 1.6 |
| 06:34.15 | kergoth | only 1.5* |
| 06:35.16 | Bala | can you seamlessly upgrade to rc2 or do you need to reflash? |
| 06:35.21 | effy | hmmmm, I found one ftsystem.c but it's somewhere else hehe |
| 06:35.31 | effy | ah damn, it's in the 1.5 source hehe |
| 06:35.31 | kergoth | Bala: you can upgrade.. there are a couple kinks you can fix |
| 06:35.52 | kergoth | maybe they forgot something eh |
| 06:36.02 | kergoth | edit the root makefile, disable freetype |
| 06:36.39 | Bala | from aqpkg.. or do i have to get out of opie first and command line it? |
| 06:36.53 | kergoth | Bala: in general upgarde opie from cmdline is safer |
| 06:36.58 | kergoth | Bala: and requires less space |
| 06:37.13 | kergoth | if you upgrade from within opie, it replaces teh libs that are in use, but those in use libs inodes arent freed until they're no longer in use |
| 06:37.14 | effy | true. freetype is that freehand memo pad? |
| 06:37.21 | kergoth | in other words, the libs that are in use will take up twice the space |
| 06:37.22 | kergoth | effy: no |
| 06:37.39 | kergoth | effy: freetype is a font handling library. opie/qtopia has a binding to use freetype.. i.e. to load truetype fonts |
| 06:37.46 | kergoth | effy: its not requires for any part of qtopia/opie |
| 06:38.10 | effy | ah ok |
| 06:38.45 | kergoth | and i still cant get into the work network |
| 06:38.46 | kergoth | grrr |
| 06:38.51 | Bala | kergoth.. ah.. command line it is then :) what's the ipkg syntax? and what are the kinks? |
| 06:38.55 | Bala | unless its in a faq somewhere |
| 06:39.27 | kergoth | ipkg update |
| 06:39.28 | kergoth | ipkg upgrade |
| 06:39.30 | kergoth | .. |
| 06:39.43 | kergoth | if you're coming from 3.0, do ipkg update; ipkg upgrade ipkg; ipkg upgrade; |
| 06:40.38 | effy | bleh, more errors hehe |
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| 06:45.51 | Bala | should i just sorta ignore warnings ipkg is giving?? |
| 06:46.04 | kergoth | yeah, warnings are harmless in general |
| 06:46.54 | effy | haha, good advice ;) |
| 06:46.57 | Bala | ok.. that was fun.. its going now.. i dont have wireless card so i had to type it out then place it in the cradle and press the ok button.. |
| 06:47.16 | kergoth | hehe, ive done that too |
| 06:47.24 | kergoth | i tend to put the whole feed on a card |
| 06:47.27 | kergoth | with the packages file |
| 06:47.32 | kergoth | then add it to ipkg.conf with file:/mnt/cf |
| 06:47.33 | kergoth | :) |
| 06:47.44 | Bala | how much does the feed take up? |
| 06:47.54 | kergoth | not sure |
| 06:48.08 | kergoth | the core packages fit on my 64mb card easy, i dunno how large a full build is |
| 06:48.30 | Bala | i'll have to consider that for next time.. |
| 06:50.23 | james_lan | gah $699 for ipaq 5450 (w/802.11b and bluetooth) but no kb, sd, but no cf/pcmcia, and no 640x480 screen |
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| 06:51.08 | kergoth | james_lan: you know you want a c700 :D |
| 06:51.25 | effy | haha |
| 06:51.36 | james_lan | err, starting at $699 (likely more w/opts but hp website down now or something) |
| 06:51.38 | effy | I should start exporting them. that one company charges WAY too much for that |
| 06:51.51 | kergoth | yeah, $699 is quite a bit |
| 06:51.52 | james_lan | kergoth: well duh :) |
| 06:52.21 | effy | especially considering at the current exchange rate it is about a $200 markup for a simple change they make! |
| 06:52.28 | kergoth | hehe |
| 06:52.52 | effy | I just changed a few letters in a config file an voila, ENGLISH! |
| 06:52.52 | effy | hehe |
| 06:52.57 | kergoth | hehe |
| 06:53.00 | kergoth | yep |
| 06:53.09 | effy | but then again, you'd still have to download a few apps to replace the Japanese ones |
| 06:53.11 | kergoth | though they'll be making slightly more changes than just that |
| 06:53.19 | kergoth | I'm assisting dynamism with the conversion. |
| 06:53.20 | effy | like? |
| 06:53.21 | kergoth | I hvae a c700 here |
| 06:53.23 | kergoth | have |
| 06:53.25 | carbon | hmm... is anybody thinking about changing/has changed the documents model? i.e. does it work in OZ/Opie the same way it worked in Sharp/Qtopia? |
| 06:53.35 | effy | you get free hardware, kergoth? ;) |
| 06:53.41 | kergoth | carbon: its not the documents layer that is the problem. |
| 06:53.52 | carbon | well, i just mean the practice of using desktop files for dcs |
| 06:53.52 | kergoth | carbon: its the documents tab. its the interfface thats the biggest issue |
| 06:54.05 | kergoth | I doubt anyone's looking into that |
| 06:54.12 | kergoth | there are _much_ more important things |
| 06:54.16 | kergoth | like PIM improvements |
| 06:54.18 | kergoth | opie on X11 |
| 06:54.27 | effy | ouch |
| 06:54.28 | kergoth | and improving the existing documents UI, so the docs tab doesnt blow |
| 06:54.29 | carbon | er, docs |
| 06:54.29 | carbon | kergoth, yeah, that too, but that's not the big thing :-) |
| 06:54.30 | kergoth | et cetera |
| 06:54.31 | effy | ./home/qtdev/qtopia-free-1.6.0-beta4/lib/libqtopia.so: undefined reference to `QWizard::setHelpEnabled(QWidget *, bool)' |
| 06:54.39 | carbon | yeah, ok |
| 06:54.45 | carbon | ty |
| 06:55.00 | kergoth | effy: free no, its only a loaner unit. I have the option of buying it at a discount later. I'm just doing it to have one to test OZ on it ;) |
| 06:55.14 | effy | hehe ok |
| 06:55.27 | effy | if you need someone to test the Japanese version, I might be available ;) |
| 06:55.46 | james_lan | anyone else working speech recognition/control (not making all that much progress) |
| 06:55.48 | kergoth | As soon as sharp releases the kenrel sources, OZ will be on it. |
| 06:55.54 | kergoth | within days |
| 06:55.58 | kergoth | but they are behind schedule |
| 06:56.03 | kergoth | first it was supposed to relese jan 14th |
| 06:56.05 | kergoth | then jan 24th |
| 06:56.07 | kergoth | .. who knows now |
| 06:56.49 | effy | hehe |
| 06:56.57 | effy | welcome to Linux world ;) |
| 06:56.57 | james_lan | anyone know what " Transflective " means (from a hp site about the above mentioned ipaq) |
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| 07:00.27 | mewyn | ugh |
| 07:00.43 | james_lan | bbl |
| 07:00.48 | kergoth | mewyn: probs? |
| 07:01.01 | kergoth | mewyn: btw, i'm definately buying that delphi xm unit when i get paid :) |
| 07:01.06 | mewyn | heh |
| 07:01.17 | mewyn | kerg: just getting reminded about my bankroll |
| 07:01.27 | kergoth | ahhh |
| 07:01.29 | kergoth | i hate that |
| 07:01.30 | mewyn | single digits |
| 07:01.35 | kergoth | quicken is a painful reminder of such things |
| 07:01.43 | effy | kergoth: what is that error message about? it's trying to link embeddedkonsole together, but it is failing for a ton of error messages |
| 07:01.45 | kergoth | "Your net worth is -12,800" |
| 07:01.47 | kergoth | gee thanks |
| 07:01.57 | mewyn | at least you have income |
| 07:02.00 | kergoth | effy: using the gui package manager? |
| 07:02.07 | kergoth | effy: the failed to linkl messages are harmless, ignore em |
| 07:02.26 | effy | undefined references are ok? |
| 07:02.42 | kergoth | ah, no |
| 07:02.47 | effy | hehe |
| 07:02.54 | kergoth | thatd be bad |
| 07:03.12 | effy | must be a bad env var |
| 07:03.25 | kergoth | I either need more or less alcohol |
| 07:03.26 | effy | what is the difference between QTDIR and QPEDIR? |
| 07:03.32 | effy | haha |
| 07:03.35 | kergoth | QPE is the path to the qtopia source tree |
| 07:03.40 | kergoth | QT is the path to the qt/e source tree |
| 07:03.55 | effy | hmmmm |
| 07:04.23 | effy | as far as I can tell, the thing should be working. libqtopia.so seems to have the references it is looking for |
| 07:05.13 | effy | or maybe my Qt libs are too old? hehe |
| 07:14.56 | effy | I might not even have Qt-embedded installed! |
| 07:17.18 | effy | kergoth: how can I be sure I've got Qt-embedded? |
| 07:17.44 | kergoth | are you building for x86 or arm? |
| 07:18.02 | effy | right now, x86 |
| 07:18.06 | effy | just for testing |
| 07:18.11 | kergoth | ah |
| 07:18.12 | kergoth | umm |
| 07:18.21 | effy | using the qvfb |
| 07:18.34 | kergoth | whered you get qvfb from? |
| 07:19.11 | effy | hmmmm, I forget if it was zauruszone.farplenet.net or from Troll |
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| 07:58.29 | Bala | hmm kergoth.. ok its done.. but now opie wont run. :( |
| 08:13.05 | Bala | hmm its complaining about a missing libopie but ipkg upgrade libopie1 says its up to date |
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| 09:07.08 | narowmind | any one install oz3.1rc2 ?? |
| 09:26.13 | Piete | hey narowmind |
| 09:26.19 | Piete | yea, I have rc2 |
| 09:26.35 | narowmind | have you got a prism2 wireless card to work ? |
| 09:27.07 | Piete | yes, but I haven't tested it much |
| 09:27.39 | narowmind | really. |
| 09:27.55 | Piete | really |
| 09:28.07 | narowmind | which card do you have ? I have a linksys and the ornico driver doesnt seem to detect it.. I hear that dlink cards have similar problem |
| 09:28.55 | Piete | Dlink DCF-650W, |
| 09:29.11 | Piete | when I insert it, its missidentified, but it still works |
| 09:29.59 | narowmind | huh |
| 09:30.31 | narowmind | someone sayd the DCF-660W doenst work. |
| 09:31.02 | narowmind | which driver are you using orinoco_cs ? |
| 09:31.15 | Piete | how do you mean which driver? I just plug it in, and it works |
| 09:31.29 | narowmind | which kernel module doest load ? |
| 09:31.37 | Piete | lemme check |
| 09:32.25 | Piete | hostap |
| 09:35.01 | Piete | my only problem is that opie freezes when I 'eject' my card |
| 09:36.04 | narowmind | hostap ?? |
| 09:36.10 | narowmind | hm. |
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| 10:40.30 | Harlekin | ibot: seen microdim |
| 10:40.34 | | microdim <~amd@adsl-64-169-116-197.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #zaurus, 10d 15h 7m 10s ago, saying: 'what is the diff between "konq - snapshot" and "konq - snapshot - full"'. |
| 10:40.45 | Harlekin | hi * |
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| 14:31.44 | Harlekin | ibot: seen microdim |
| 14:31.44 | | microdim <~amd@adsl-64-169-116-197.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #zaurus, 10d 18h 58m 20s ago, saying: 'what is the diff between "konq - snapshot" and "konq - snapshot - full"'. |
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| 15:17.20 | Piete | hey Dessimat0r |
| 15:18.12 | effy | anyone know what a .moc file is? |
| 15:19.55 | bipolar | effy: IIRC, a .moc file is a qt-designer form file. I'm not sure how to use them. |
| 15:20.43 | effy | hmmmm |
| 15:21.13 | NarrowMind | ya.. a moc file is used to build qt ui |
| 15:21.24 | effy | I'm trying to compile the Qtopia source for 1.6.0, but there is one file it refuses to fully compile. |
| 15:21.28 | NarrowMind | as I recall they are are xml now |
| 15:21.46 | effy | the whole thing seems to be right, but the .o file doesnt show up in the right area |
| 15:22.03 | NarrowMind | sounds like the make file is fuxored |
| 15:22.16 | effy | just a message "g++: .moc/linux-generic-g++//global.moc: linker input file unused since linking not done" |
| 15:23.46 | NarrowMind | I think your makefiles are bad.. |
| 15:23.59 | NarrowMind | as I recall .moc's are handled by the program moc |
| 15:24.06 | effy | the only difference between that command and the previous one is the .moc file and the file it's trying to compile |
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| 17:05.54 | jurrie | what's the format of OZ's backup utility |
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| 17:09.03 | chouimat | morning |
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| 18:07.21 | james_ | currently getting ready to go, so I will just note this here: the wirelessapplet only shows one of the 3 color bars in rc2 (signal, should show signal noise and quality) |
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| 18:36.38 | Com[Plex] | hey LordVan, you around? |
| 18:39.52 | Com[Plex] | anyone have the conversion files to make a c700 use english? |
| 18:39.59 | Com[Plex] | instead of japanese.. |
| 18:41.06 | kergoth | he should be talking with dynamism. |
| 18:41.15 | Com[Plex] | ahh |
| 18:41.21 | Com[Plex] | hey effy, fancy meeting you here. |
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| 19:39.40 | nadav | what's new in 3.1rc2? |
| 19:40.51 | kergoth | read the changelog |
| 19:40.55 | kergoth | it exists for a reason |
| 19:41.15 | nadav | oh, right |
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| 19:50.42 | tux_mike` | i need my own tivo |
| 19:51.21 | james_ | try mencoder + freevo (if people quit adding new features and get recording working) |
| 19:52.12 | noda | There are SO many apps that use v4l that give tivo abilities :) |
| 19:54.30 | james_ | noda: true, but mencoder is one of the best (plus you could even reencode it on the Z) due to mplayer/mencoder being near the sox of video. |
| 19:55.33 | noda | Oh, I agree mencoder is one of the best :) |
| 19:56.41 | noda | D'OH! I fixed the symlinks and didn't run lilo :P |
| 19:57.06 | james_ | only problem I have with it is that mencoder doesnt do ogg/vorbis-in-avi for sound, which is better for playing on a Z. |
| 19:57.23 | james_ | noda: ow! |
| 19:57.46 | noda | I haven't experimented with ogm's... I'm gonna play around with 'em now :) |
| 19:59.19 | james_ | you have to use transcode or such, and I haven't played with them much. Either that or -dumpaudio + oggenc + --(external audio file, I can't remember atm) to copy it to an avi using mencoder. PITA either way. |
| 20:03.21 | noda | Oh, you can't use mencoder for ogm's? |
| 20:04.09 | james_ | not atm (playback yes, but making them, no unless there has been a patch in the past few days) |
| 20:04.43 | noda | Poopy :) |
| 20:04.48 | noda | transcode does to v4l, right? |
| 20:05.33 | james_ | I think so... transcode has never worked for me. (mplayer is easy to setup, for me at least, transcode isn't) |
| 20:06.39 | noda | Yeah, I've given up on transcode too. I'll just do an mplayer cvs checkout instead :P |
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| 21:23.40 | ljp | you tried them? |
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