| 00:01.44 | scribe | kergoth: I just had to mkdir build/ipkg/usr/ and .../sbin and it is working again. |
| 00:02.02 | chouimat | kergoth: did you know they want to rename san fransisco to "New Sodom" |
| 00:02.02 | kergoth | scribe: ah, odd |
| 00:02.04 | chouimat | ? |
| 00:02.06 | kergoth | chouimat: lol |
| 00:03.07 | kergoth | scribe: found the actual bug, commited, and pushed. |
| 00:03.11 | kergoth | scribe: thanks |
| 00:03.39 | cbok | netsol sucks.. |
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| 00:05.02 | chouimat | kergoth: :) |
| 00:05.58 | nadav | hm |
| 00:06.04 | nadav | something wrong with openzaurus.org? |
| 00:06.23 | nadav | it's freezing safari |
| 00:06.24 | nadav | heh |
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| 00:29.07 | kergoth | scribe: found a bug in sysvinit package creation. bk pull; bk -r co -q; to fix |
| 00:32.02 | scribe | kergoth: ok. build was download qt-x11. openz isn't using tinyx now is it? |
| 00:32.16 | kergoth | its building qt/x11 to get uic and moc binaries for x86 |
| 00:32.31 | kergoth | which is needed to generate code from .ui files, and to do the meta object copmilation for signals & slots |
| 00:32.43 | scribe | kergoth: gotcha |
| 00:32.52 | kergoth | since we cant rely on the desktop to have them, and have them for qt2 at that, |
| 00:32.55 | kergoth | we build em |
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| 02:59.34 | scribe | kergoth: wow. All done. Lots of stuff in output/ |
| 03:01.31 | kergoth | scribe: :) output/staging/arm-linux/lib is your arm libs .. output/staging/include is hte associated headers, etc |
| 03:01.40 | kergoth | scribe: output/ipks is the packages built.. |
| 03:03.48 | scribe | kergoth: thanks. I'm finishing up some stuff on libsword that will reduce memory consumption than I'll try to build a new qpsword |
| 04:12.26 | chouimat|Zzzzz | night |
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| 05:28.24 | cmerlo | folks, i'm having big hardware trouble. |
| 05:28.38 | cmerlo | i'm trying to install a new ROM image |
| 05:28.49 | kergoth | okay, and.. |
| 05:28.55 | cmerlo | problem 1: the two LEDs would light, and then, after a couple minutes, they'd both start flashing. |
| 05:29.05 | cmerlo | problem 2: now, when i hit c-d-reset, *nothing* happens |
| 05:29.06 | cmerlo | :( |
| 05:29.07 | kergoth | indicates corrupt files |
| 05:29.14 | kergoth | or incorrectly formatted card |
| 05:29.15 | kergoth | or both |
| 05:29.31 | cmerlo | the card should be fat formatted, right? |
| 05:30.04 | kergoth | fat_16_ specifically |
| 05:30.06 | kergoth | fat32 will not work |
| 05:31.03 | cmerlo | right. in xp, it just says "fat" |
| 05:31.08 | cmerlo | which, i assumed, is fat 16 |
| 05:31.38 | kergoth | theoretically.. |
| 05:35.58 | cmerlo | the files should be "zImage" and "initrd.bin", right? |
| 05:36.44 | kergoth | yep |
| 05:36.46 | kergoth | exactly that |
| 05:36.54 | kergoth | remember windows can fuck with you if you have hiding extensions on |
| 05:36.59 | kergoth | zImage could easily actually be zImage.bin |
| 05:38.01 | cmerlo | still nothing happens |
| 05:38.14 | cmerlo | i'm afraid that i somehow borked the zaurus itself |
| 05:38.27 | cmerlo | i'd been getting weird oz bugs |
| 05:38.39 | cmerlo | mostly power related, like the unit wouldn't suspend |
| 05:40.17 | cmerlo | and now, it won't power on and it won't flash the ROM |
| 05:40.44 | kergoth | lights dont come on whe you hit c+d+fullreset? |
| 05:40.58 | cmerlo | nope |
| 05:41.06 | kergoth | fun |
| 05:41.14 | kergoth | pop the battery |
| 05:41.21 | kergoth | leave it out for 10 minutes |
| 05:41.27 | kergoth | hit full reset at some point with it removed |
| 05:41.32 | kergoth | reinsert, try again |
| 05:41.38 | cmerlo | ok, i'll try that |
| 05:41.54 | cmerlo | *time to go smoke. bb in 10* |
| 05:51.42 | cmerlo | still nothing happening |
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| 06:59.16 | Horwitz | morgen |
| 07:00.17 | kergoth | hi |
| 07:04.00 | cmerlo | kergoth: don't know if you read above, but the battery trick didn't work. |
| 07:04.37 | kergoth | dunno what to tell you. leave it out for longer, let the backup battery deplete completely |
| 07:04.46 | kergoth | search the mailing list archives.. an inability to falsh has been seen before |
| 07:05.18 | cmerlo | ok. thanks for the advice. wish me luck. |
| 07:05.27 | kergoth | no problem |
| 07:05.28 | kergoth | let me know how it goes |
| 07:05.34 | cmerlo | i will. |
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| 15:44.29 | chouimat | morning |
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| 16:09.34 | ccamp | is there any way to get to console mode with the OZ |
| 16:20.38 | ccamp | hello? |
| 16:24.21 | kergoth`zzz | yo |
| 16:24.31 | kergoth`zzz | ccamp: quit opie |
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| 16:36.21 | ccamp | kergoth why |
| 16:39.49 | Twiun | kergoth: out of curiosity, has anyone ever mentioned trying to xcompile jikes? |
| 16:46.45 | ccamp | what is wrong with #opie |
| 16:46.46 | ccamp | i dont get it |
| 16:51.39 | kergoth | ccamp: huh? |
| 16:51.52 | kergoth | ccamp: i said to quit opie. Settings->Shutdown->Terminate Opie |
| 16:52.28 | ccamp | no, you see i messed up a lib in /lib, and froxe the X |
| 16:52.36 | ccamp | now when i rebooted it |
| 16:52.41 | kergoth | the X? |
| 16:54.01 | ccamp | Z |
| 16:54.09 | ccamp | sorry, busy at wrok |
| 16:54.23 | George- | :P |
| 16:54.40 | kergoth | ccamp: ah, np. so what happens on reboot? |
| 16:54.53 | ccamp | now, after the OpenZaurus splash screen , i get init error, while loading share libraries /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 16:54.54 | ccamp | file too short |
| 16:55.00 | kergoth | oh |
| 16:55.02 | kergoth | you're screwed |
| 16:55.07 | ccamp | yah :P |
| 16:55.07 | ccamp | heh |
| 16:55.08 | kergoth | you cant login to console without libc |
| 16:55.10 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:55.14 | kergoth | reflash time |
| 16:55.47 | ccamp | shit damn |
| 16:55.47 | ccamp | is 3.1 out yet? |
| 16:55.47 | ccamp | heh |
| 16:55.50 | George- | yay, qt-embedded-2.3.4 source finished downloading ;) |
| 16:56.03 | kergoth | ccamp: fraid not |
| 16:56.06 | kergoth | ccamp: read the news page |
| 16:56.11 | kergoth | itll be there when it releases |
| 16:56.11 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:56.36 | ccamp | i didnt even back anything up.. o well |
| 16:56.47 | ccamp | i dont use the todo or anyhting like that. |
| 16:56.48 | ccamp | guess ill start from scratch again |
| 16:56.54 | kergoth | such is the nature of working with a writable root filesystem |
| 16:57.03 | kergoth | .. you can rm -rf /lib :) |
| 16:57.04 | ccamp | agreed |
| 16:57.16 | ccamp | well what i technically did.. |
| 16:57.22 | kergoth | ccamp: note that running opie as nonroot will help this, to help prevent inadvertant damage |
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| 16:57.29 | ccamp | was i coped a lib from /mnt/ram/lib to /lib |
| 16:57.33 | ccamp | and it messed it up |
| 16:58.17 | ccamp | should i flash with 3 or 3.1rc2 ? |
| 16:58.23 | ccamp | it was 3 before |
| 16:58.38 | ccamp | only thing is i hhave a wc11 that doesnt work in rc2... |
| 16:58.42 | ccamp | guess there are modules you can dl tho |
| 16:59.23 | kergoth | yep, just upgrade the hostap-modules ipk from unstable |
| 16:59.40 | ccamp | yah thats what i read |
| 17:00.00 | ccamp | too bad i dont have anyway to get them once i flash it |
| 17:00.17 | ccamp | i dont have my dock near , and no sd reader either |
| 17:00.28 | kergoth | no CF card and reader? |
| 17:00.31 | ccamp | nope |
| 17:00.33 | kergoth | how do you flash OZ then? :) |
| 17:01.00 | ccamp | scp the file to the cf card :P |
| 17:01.01 | ccamp | over wireless |
| 17:01.02 | ccamp | the man way :P |
| 17:01.17 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:01.22 | kergoth | good luck doing that now |
| 17:01.28 | kergoth | with a dead Z |
| 17:01.29 | kergoth | :) |
| 17:02.04 | ccamp | no kiddin! |
| 17:02.26 | kergoth | i'd pick up a cf reader .. usb or pcmcia |
| 17:02.27 | ccamp | hey! i sitll have my zimage on my cf i think! |
| 17:02.28 | kergoth | cheap |
| 17:02.36 | kergoth | ah, but you need both zImage and intird.bin |
| 17:02.37 | kergoth | initrd.bin |
| 17:02.38 | ccamp | hrmm... maybe it will work |
| 17:02.44 | ccamp | i have that too |
| 17:03.04 | ccamp | i cant tell tho obviously |
| 17:03.15 | kergoth | yeah, worth a sshot |
| 17:04.11 | ccamp | msn i dont want to reinstall all this crap |
| 17:04.22 | ccamp | it took me forever to get froot to install correctly :P |
| 17:13.12 | ccamp | no dice |
| 17:13.20 | ccamp | looks like i removed the files :/ |
| 17:15.24 | ccamp | will it work if you have addditional files on the cf card? |
| 17:15.38 | ccamp | or does it have to only have the kernel and initrd |
| 17:15.48 | kergoth | yes it works |
| 17:15.52 | kergoth | my card is almost always full of crap |
| 17:16.08 | ccamp | my mail light is on |
| 17:16.14 | ccamp | heh |
| 17:16.22 | kergoth | power light doesnt necessarilyi go on when flashing |
| 17:16.27 | kergoth | only if the battery isnt full |
| 17:16.37 | kergoth | one of those little things nobody documented about the process |
| 17:16.37 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:18.25 | ccamp | oh fuck |
| 17:18.32 | ccamp | i dont even have my power cable |
| 17:18.43 | ccamp | i just flashed it w/o a power cable |
| 17:18.48 | ccamp | is that possible? |
| 17:19.24 | kergoth | yep |
| 17:19.28 | ccamp | holdon imma try it agin |
| 17:19.29 | kergoth | i do it fairly often |
| 17:19.29 | ccamp | again |
| 17:19.37 | ccamp | ok cool i htink this is working then |
| 17:25.28 | ccamp | worked. |
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| 19:32.50 | Horwitz | re |
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| 20:01.00 | chrisb|zaurus | Is there a script in the buildroot to build a Packages file? |
| 20:02.00 | chrisb|zaurus | got it... |
| 20:11.47 | kergoth | :) |
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| 21:59.21 | FrenkYoo | hi, I've many problems of stability |
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