| 00:00.18 | kergoth | this fixes the wifi card eject hang, irda enable, opie-shutdown reboot/shutdown bus |
| 00:00.21 | kergoth | bugs |
| 00:00.21 | bbeattie | kergoth: how long until release? how likely is it to be the last rc? |
| 00:00.22 | kergoth | among others |
| 00:00.34 | kergoth | not certain, need more testers to know how buggy this is :) |
| 00:00.41 | bbeattie | kergoth: Sure, I'll give it a try. |
| 00:01.02 | kergoth | it still errors sayin gopie-base and qpe-base arent installed, but i've got jamey looking into it.. its ipkg misbehaving |
| 00:01.12 | kergoth | but its certainly no worse than rc3.1 |
| 00:01.13 | bbeattie | kergoth: I install everything to SD, never on ram... I don't know if that will save me from reinstalling everything, will it? |
| 00:01.22 | kergoth | that'll be fine |
| 00:01.28 | kergoth | flash, run ipkg-link mount /mnt/card |
| 00:01.40 | kergoth | that'll relink everything to root |
| 00:01.56 | bbeattie | kergoth: that takes care of most programs, except poorly made ipkgs that install stuff to the root fs. |
| 00:02.40 | bbeattie | kergoth: when jamey gets that ipkg problem fixed, I'll install and test it. |
| 00:02.54 | kergoth | the ipkg prob is the only thing holding us up right now. |
| 00:03.04 | kergoth | barring new bugs being found, its about ready for rleease |
| 00:03.05 | kergoth | release |
| 00:03.45 | kergoth | grab the most recent of those rootfs's, rename to initrd.bin, flash |
| 00:03.49 | bbeattie | kergoth: url for download? |
| 00:04.00 | kergoth | openzaurus.org/official/experimental/collie/ |
| 00:04.26 | bbeattie | no new kernel? |
| 00:04.37 | kergoth | nope, use the same one as rc3.1 |
| 00:05.02 | bbeattie | kergoth: any news on getting the SD module made for 2.4.19? |
| 00:05.18 | kergoth | no news |
| 00:05.23 | kergoth | if there was news, itd be on the news page |
| 00:07.18 | bbeattie | TheMasterMind1: My Z still feels naked without mplayer/xmms on it. ;) |
| 00:20.33 | bbeattie | kergoth: off the top of your head, do you know who is working on opie-today? |
| 00:20.41 | kergoth | harlekin |
| 00:20.42 | kergoth | he maintains it |
| 00:30.03 | bbeattie | kergoth: reboot works, irda enable does not. -- Over half my apps are missing and not reloaded from ipkg-link mount /mnt/card/ |
| 00:31.32 | kergoth | huh? |
| 00:31.36 | kergoth | i just flashed that image. |
| 00:31.39 | kergoth | irda enable worked fine |
| 00:31.45 | kergoth | something's up |
| 00:31.57 | kergoth | you _did_ full reset after flashing it, right? |
| 00:32.40 | bbeattie | yes |
| 00:33.11 | kergoth | you cant play audio while trying to enable irda |
| 00:33.15 | kergoth | i hope you werent playing mp3s or something |
| 00:33.34 | bbeattie | kergoth: I don't have any music loaded right now. |
| 00:34.43 | bbeattie | I'll reflash too. I'm going to have to reinstall all my extra ipkgs from scratch. :-/ |
| 00:35.06 | kergoth | every package installed to sd is recovered by ipkg-link mount |
| 00:35.13 | kergoth | you may or may not have to restart opie after doign so. |
| 00:35.38 | bbeattie | I rebooted, didn't help much/any. |
| 00:35.56 | kergoth | ipkg-link works flawless here |
| 00:36.00 | bbeattie | kergoth: some packages are dumb and don't install to SD perfectly, from what I see, but maybe I am wrong? |
| 00:36.00 | kergoth | eregardless of OZ version |
| 00:36.03 | kergoth | been using it since 2.5 |
| 00:36.07 | kergoth | you're wrong |
| 00:36.10 | kergoth | all packages are installed to sd |
| 00:36.20 | kergoth | if you sd is vfat, libs will isntall but wont have their links |
| 00:37.18 | bbeattie | SD is ext2 |
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| 00:39.16 | bbeattie | kergoth: all apps found, are on SD. I believe though, that some apps, even when stating SD, do not install to SD. Correct? |
| 00:40.31 | kergoth | not correct. |
| 00:40.37 | kergoth | ipkg puts every file owned byt he package onto sd |
| 00:40.46 | kergoth | now wehtehr the package _works_ when you do that.. |
| 00:41.30 | bbeattie | kergoth: take zroadmap, it installs some files to /opt/QtPalmtop/zroadmap. That is located on the root fs, not SD. |
| 00:41.50 | kergoth | are you not listening? |
| 00:42.01 | kergoth | _everY_ file in data.tar.gz gets put into dest/thatpath |
| 00:42.06 | kergoth | period. |
| 00:42.19 | bbeattie | hrm/ |
| 00:42.54 | kergoth | the only thing that can be iffy is postinst script referring to paths without accomidating the destination |
| 00:43.04 | kergoth | the files themselves, w_will_ go to the correct place |
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| 00:50.36 | bbeattie | kergoth: there are 24 apps that did not show up after the reflash, all were chosen to be installed to SD. - Some parts of those apps are there, some parts completely missing from some apps. |
| 00:51.41 | bbeattie | kergoth: what's odd, is they are all apps installed by qtopiadesktop that are missing. |
| 00:52.27 | kergoth | thats not surprising. dont use qtopia desktop to install apps to OZ |
| 00:52.31 | kergoth | i cant guarantee its sanity |
| 00:53.45 | bbeattie | kergoth: Alright, I'll remember that for future, but it looks like all apps not showing up were installed with qtopiadesktop. |
| 00:54.40 | kergoth | hmm. and irda doesnt enable/ |
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| 01:07.51 | mewyn` | kergoth: ping |
| 01:07.59 | kergoth | mewyn`: pong too |
| 01:08.21 | mewyn` | kergoth: have you ever seen a package trying to install qt-embedded-2.3.4? |
| 01:08.43 | kergoth | nope.. qt-embedded (2.3.4) perhaps |
| 01:08.51 | kergoth | make sure the stable feed is disabled in your ipkg.conf |
| 01:09.24 | bbeattie | kergoth: reflashed, irda still doesn't work |
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| 01:10.23 | mewyn` | there we go... now how did that get like that |
| 01:10.41 | kergoth | it was enabled? |
| 01:11.09 | mewyn` | yah |
| 01:11.18 | mewyn` | i musta done something |
| 01:11.23 | kergoth | hmm |
| 01:11.26 | kergoth | a few people saw that bheavior |
| 01:11.33 | kergoth | could be a aqpkg bug or something, autoenabling the first feed |
| 01:11.35 | mewyn` | what's the difference in the 2 konq packages? |
| 01:11.36 | kergoth | i'll see if i run into it |
| 01:11.40 | kergoth | -full has javascript support |
| 01:12.12 | mewyn` | k |
| 01:12.29 | mewyn` | let's see if removing user will fix things |
| 01:13.11 | mewyn` | what changed with ipkg? |
| 01:13.19 | kergoth | lots of things |
| 01:13.19 | mewyn` | i can't tar -xzvf them anymore ;) |
| 01:13.22 | kergoth | eh |
| 01:13.27 | kergoth | they havent been tarballs in quite a while |
| 01:13.30 | kergoth | they're ar archives now |
| 01:13.33 | mewyn` | hrm... |
| 01:13.33 | kergoth | same format as .deb |
| 01:13.52 | mewyn` | that's good |
| 01:13.57 | mewyn` | i hope :) |
| 01:14.58 | mewyn` | hrm... i wonder what happened to the remove icon option in the doc tab |
| 01:15.08 | kergoth | its goen? |
| 01:15.36 | mewyn` | looks it |
| 01:15.41 | kergoth | odd |
| 01:15.48 | kergoth | open a bug in opie's bts |
| 01:16.33 | mewyn` | ibot opie |
| 01:16.34 | | it has been said that opie is the Open Palmtop Integrated Environment. More info at http://opie.handhelds.org/ http://www.opie.info/ http://www.opie.us/ or in the #opie channel. Installation instructions at http://opie.handhelds.org/wiki/index.php?OpieInstallation or respect |
| 01:19.30 | mewyn` | opie.info isn't responding to me |
| 01:19.40 | mewyn` | looks like i'll have to do it later |
| 01:19.57 | kergoth | eh |
| 01:19.59 | kergoth | bbeattie: dood. |
| 01:20.03 | kergoth | bbeattie: i just flashed, and enabled irda. |
| 01:20.05 | kergoth | bbeattie: lol |
| 01:21.22 | mewyn` | but i'm glad i got konq,now i can read my usb docs |
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| 01:29.35 | bbeattie | kergoth: So irda worked the first and third flash, but not the second? |
| 01:29.51 | kergoth | my irda has been able to enable on every flash so far |
| 01:30.01 | kergoth | you are flashing rootfs-oz3.1-rc3.2-200303241609.bin, right? |
| 01:30.16 | kergoth | not rootfs-oz3.1-rc3.2-200303231635.bin or rootfs-oz3.1-rc3.2-200303231916.bin ? |
| 01:31.11 | bbeattie | rootfs-oz3.1-rc3.2-200303241609.bin |
| 01:31.28 | kergoth | thats what i just flashed. |
| 01:31.35 | kergoth | you're on a 3.1-rc3.1 kernel? |
| 01:31.46 | bbeattie | yes |
| 01:31.54 | kergoth | same here. |
| 01:32.02 | kergoth | try enabling irda, run dmesg |
| 01:32.28 | bbeattie | I scp'd the image over to my sd card, then moved the rootfs-oz3.1-rc3.2-200303241609.bin to /mnt/cf/initrd.bin (over the one I keep there) |
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| 01:35.22 | bbeattie | kergoth: dmesg isn't reporting anything... |
| 01:35.55 | kergoth | bbeattie: cat /etc/oz_version |
| 01:36.21 | bbeattie | 3.1-rc3.2 |
| 01:36.32 | kergoth | same. |
| 01:36.44 | kergoth | its completely nonsensical. |
| 01:36.47 | bbeattie | has anyone else tried this rom? |
| 01:36.58 | kergoth | no, i'm asking in #openembedded now |
| 01:38.01 | nasa | asking what? |
| 01:38.28 | kergoth | people to test a new rom |
| 01:38.37 | kergoth | i need testers to iron out the kinks for the next release |
| 01:38.47 | kergoth | bbeattie: ipkg info sound-modules|grep Version |
| 01:44.04 | bbeattie | kergoth`bbl: Version 2.4.6-rmk1-np2-embedix-2 |
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| 05:07.06 | jahed | Why can't I install xmms anymore? |
| 05:07.18 | jahed | Or opie-mplayer |
| 05:07.44 | jahed | # ipkg -d ram install opie-mediaplayer2 |
| 05:07.44 | jahed | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for opie-mediaplayer2: |
| 05:07.44 | jahed | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:07.55 | jahed | I installed that package from a diff source. |
| 05:08.04 | jahed | Yet, Still won't let me install the package. |
| 05:08.53 | jahed | How can I install opie-mediaplayer2? |
| 05:10.04 | chouimat|Zzzzz | night |
| 05:10.14 | jahed | Help me punk. |
| 05:10.43 | huhhhh | install libxine |
| 05:10.44 | jahed | Wanker. |
| 05:11.46 | jahed | Can I get that from the oz feeds? |
| 05:12.28 | huhhhh | yes |
| 05:13.09 | jahed | Dpesm |
| 05:13.09 | jahed | Doesn't look like it. |
| 05:14.00 | jahed | I like how my ssh connection freezes 24/7 |
| 05:14.04 | jahed | Very Coo. |
| 05:14.40 | huhhhh | libxine1 |
| 05:15.18 | jahed | aight.. |
| 05:15.23 | jahed | I was getting the wrong feed. |
| 05:17.01 | huhhhh | which in turn depends on libogg0 libvorbisdec1 libmad0 zlib1g libc6 |
| 05:17.08 | jahed | aight |
| 05:17.13 | jahed | Getting this shit working |
| 05:17.17 | kergoth | so install those packages. |
| 05:17.24 | jahed | I liked xmms tho. |
| 05:17.26 | jahed | Oh well |
| 05:17.32 | kergoth | or use -force-depends and stop complaining. |
| 05:17.50 | jahed | Xine seems to run better with this hardware. |
| 05:17.52 | kergoth | xmms and mplayer will be in the feeds going forward. |
| 05:19.29 | jahed | Mplayer sucks ass on this hw. |
| 05:19.50 | jahed | It plays movie at the rate of virgin sodomy. |
| 05:20.05 | jahed | DROP FRAME |
| 05:20.06 | jahed | DURR |
| 05:20.10 | kergoth | ahh |
| 05:20.13 | jahed | DROP SOME MORE FUCING FRAMES |
| 05:20.30 | jahed | Its like watching a slide show.. with distorted circus music. |
| 05:20.49 | kergoth | 4 |
| 05:20.51 | kergoth | damn 4 |
| 05:21.11 | jahed | Word. |
| 05:21.15 | jahed | Damn 4. |
| 05:21.34 | jahed | Arm stacks grows up ewl. |
| 05:25.03 | jahed | Yea, the zaurus is a chick magnet.. gurls be going oh ty.. you are so leet with your comp toy, wanna fuck? |
| 05:25.15 | jahed | I be like "yea, take a number." |
| 05:25.19 | jahed | Cause I am pimp like that. |
| 05:26.58 | jahed | represent |
| 05:27.15 | kergoth | true that. |
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| 05:30.43 | jahed | In the middle of "ipkg update" the connection times out. |
| 05:30.47 | jahed | Pretty unfortunate. |
| 05:31.47 | jahed | Is there a way I can manually update the package file? |
| 05:31.51 | bbeattie | kergoth: reflashed a third time, still no irda. Did you hear back from the embedded people to see what's up with it? |
| 05:32.56 | jahed | I probably should just mirror the feed on my comp or something. |
| 05:43.53 | jahed | this crap is flaming with gayness. |
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| 06:15.14 | jahed | what do I mount to get my ram space? |
| 06:15.33 | jahed | mount /mnt/ram bitches |
| 06:20.29 | james_lan | which kernel did you use? |
| 06:20.50 | jahed | # uname -a |
| 06:20.50 | jahed | Linux openzaurus 2.4.6-rmk1-np2-embedix #6 Wed Dec 11 22:22:12 CST 2002 armv4l unknown |
| 06:21.15 | james_lan | the memory/storage size |
| 06:21.25 | jahed | 12mb/52mb |
| 06:21.27 | james_lan | for example 64-0 32-32 |
| 06:21.31 | jahed | I believe |
| 06:21.40 | jahed | I have a sdram card.. |
| 06:21.46 | jahed | But I want to use that for my musiq |
| 06:21.56 | jahed | And I put some crap on the CF card. |
| 06:22.12 | jahed | YOu know how I would mount that? |
| 06:22.28 | james_lan | put in the cf, and it should automount at /mnt/cf |
| 06:22.37 | jahed | I know this. |
| 06:22.39 | jahed | It does. |
| 06:22.45 | jahed | But I have a ram space also. |
| 06:22.50 | james_lan | the ram should be accessable at /mnt/ram |
| 06:22.52 | jahed | And no /mnt/ram in the fstab. |
| 06:22.57 | jahed | Its not tho |
| 06:22.58 | jahed | hmm |
| 06:23.00 | james_lan | check mount |
| 06:23.11 | jahed | well |
| 06:23.16 | jahed | looks like I got the wrong kernel |
| 06:23.19 | jahed | Mem: 23548K used, 38772K free, 0K shrd, 504K buff, 14380K cached |
| 06:23.23 | james_lan | (I use 64-0 kernels, so I don't usually deal with it) |
| 06:23.35 | jahed | That means I am using 64/0? |
| 06:24.13 | jahed | wierd |
| 06:24.19 | jahed | could of sworn that was the right one |
| 06:24.29 | james_lan | just a sec |
| 06:24.32 | jahed | ty@zeus ty $ ls dls/zaurus/oz_3.1rc3.1/ |
| 06:24.33 | jahed | initrd.bin zImage-5500-52memory-12storage.bin |
| 06:24.36 | jahed | Yea it was. |
| 06:24.37 | jahed | Wierd |
| 06:24.41 | james_lan | what does total memory say? |
| 06:24.52 | jahed | where can I check that? |
| 06:24.56 | jahed | system info? |
| 06:24.58 | james_lan | (in (settings tab) sys info) |
| 06:25.00 | james_lan | yep |
| 06:25.31 | jahed | says 64mb |
| 06:25.35 | jahed | damn, I am stupid |
| 06:25.37 | james_lan | the second tab should show you usage of ram rom |
| 06:25.55 | james_lan | does the second tab have a ram section? |
| 06:26.17 | jahed | nopr |
| 06:26.23 | jahed | just rom sd and cf |
| 06:27.55 | james_lan | hmm... as I said i don't use the split kernels, you might see if anyone is around who does |
| 06:28.08 | james_lan | ibot help |
| 06:29.06 | jahed | ibot help |
| 06:31.40 | jahed | well damn |
| 06:31.52 | jahed | My ipkg update keeps stalling |
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| 08:55.49 | LordVan | how come i lost my kernel modules? |
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| 09:34.27 | schurig | LordVan: maybe you can ipkg remove kernel-modules and ipkg install ... maybe with --force-depends |
| 09:38.39 | LordVan | i con't have my lan drivers any more .. |
| 09:38.40 | LordVan | need to copy them to the cf .. |
| 09:39.27 | LordVan | argh .. |
| 09:39.30 | LordVan | ipkg is soooo stupid .. |
| 09:39.39 | LordVan | it installed the kernel modules to /mnt/card/lib/modules ... |
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| 12:57.56 | schurig | LordVan: you can tell ipkg where to install |
| 13:00.33 | LordVan | schurig: i know .. |
| 13:00.40 | LordVan | but it did that while an update .. |
| 13:00.48 | LordVan | it reinstalled it automagically to the sd .. |
| 13:00.51 | LordVan | stupid thing .. |
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| 14:30.00 | bobbyd | hi |
| 14:30.14 | bobbyd | is opie any faster than qtopia generally? |
| 14:31.05 | bobbyd | i really mean is OZ any faster than the standard sharp rom, in the speed that apps load and how quick the interface feels... |
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| 15:14.25 | sieve | morning all |
| 15:18.23 | bipolar | hello sieve |
| 15:18.29 | bipolar | anyone else awake in here? |
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| 15:21.30 | schurig | me |
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| 16:57.44 | sieve | Anybody know why I get a bus error when I try to fdisk mmcda? |
| 16:58.51 | kergoth | because our fdisk is borked |
| 16:59.00 | kergoth | both in busybox and in util-linux, for some reason. quite odd |
| 17:14.11 | MacGyver | kergoth: what software use for development OZ ? |
| 17:14.26 | MacGyver | what is your OS ? |
| 17:14.41 | kergoth | i develop on linux boxes, running debian, specifically |
| 17:15.15 | MacGyver | use emu ? |
| 17:15.28 | kergoth | no |
| 17:15.44 | kergoth | you can build opie for x86 to run its apps on the desktop |
| 17:15.53 | kergoth | and the rest of it i test on the Z itself |
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