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| 01:37.02 | Techie2000 | Networking is all messed up |
| 01:37.08 | Techie2000 | I just had to do a reboot of the PDA |
| 01:37.23 | Techie2000 | Froze when trying to unmount my DCF-650W wireless card |
| 01:37.35 | Techie2000 | now it doesn't see any network connections |
| 01:37.40 | Techie2000 | from the GUI or ifocnfig |
| 01:37.42 | Techie2000 | :-/ |
| 01:37.55 | kergoth`bbl | sounds like you're on an old OZ version |
| 01:38.09 | Techie2000 | 3.1-RC3.1 |
| 01:39.54 | Techie2000 | Okay tried another reboot...Still gone. When I try to add it, it says nothing to add...:-/ |
| 01:39.54 | kergoth`bbl | you just ran into the infamous cardctl eject hang bug! |
| 01:39.57 | kergoth`bbl | do you feel special? |
| 01:39.58 | kergoth`bbl | :) |
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| 01:40.09 | Techie2000 | Yay! |
| 01:40.11 | kergoth`bbl | that hang bug is fixed, just not in rc3.1 |
| 01:41.01 | Techie2000 | Ah okay |
| 01:41.23 | Techie2000 | Anything I can do short of reflashing? |
| 01:41.40 | kergoth`bbl | the hang bug doesnt do any permanent damage.. |
| 01:41.43 | kergoth`bbl | something else is going on |
| 01:41.50 | kergoth`bbl | ifconfig -a show the interface? |
| 01:43.11 | Techie2000 | yup |
| 01:43.39 | kergoth`bbl | ifdown wlan0; ifup wlan0 |
| 01:44.37 | Techie2000 | ifdown couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces" |
| 01:44.47 | Techie2000 | ifup couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces" |
| 01:46.25 | Techie2000 | I tried touch interfaces |
| 01:46.29 | Techie2000 | It said not enough space |
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| 01:46.50 | kergoth`bbl | ehh |
| 01:46.54 | kergoth`bbl | you ran out of space in flash |
| 01:46.56 | Techie2000 | Ah |
| 01:46.57 | kergoth`bbl | uninstall something |
| 01:47.10 | Techie2000 | eek |
| 01:47.13 | Techie2000 | 88kb left |
| 01:47.29 | raster | kergoth`bbl: yo! |
| 01:47.34 | kergoth`bbl | hey raster |
| 01:47.43 | kergoth`bbl | whats goin on man |
| 01:47.59 | djr | kergoth`bbl: so essentially... once my 256mb sd card arrives... i can flash with the 64mb memory/0mb storage, right? then i can install everything to the sd card... |
| 01:48.10 | kergoth | djr: yup |
| 01:48.15 | raster | got drunk last night to drown my work "shit hitting the fan" sorrows in some booze |
| 01:48.21 | raster | feeling a little frail today |
| 01:48.24 | raster | but not too bad |
| 01:48.26 | kergoth | raster: ahh yeah, been there |
| 01:48.26 | kergoth | brb |
| 01:48.51 | djr | hehe |
| 01:49.14 | djr | the last time i drank was last year... and i came home with a cut below my eye and a scar |
| 01:49.32 | raster | hehe |
| 01:49.43 | raster | last time i drunk befor elast night was... the night before :) |
| 01:49.58 | Techie2000 | Okay. I tried touching the interfaces file. Now I still can't configure it from OPIE. When I try the ifdown/ifup thing it complains that it isn't configured... |
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| 01:55.32 | kergoth | Techie2000: reinstall ifupdown |
| 01:55.50 | klu5ter | hello again all |
| 01:56.37 | kergoth | hey |
| 01:58.00 | Techie2000 | okay |
| 01:58.03 | Techie2000 | I'll try it |
| 02:02.04 | djr | raster: http://inexistent.com/junk/David%20and%20Karen/oldpics/ow.jpg <-- the last time i got drunk |
| 02:02.07 | djr | ;) |
| 02:05.35 | Techie2000 | Hmm |
| 02:06.07 | Techie2000 | I try reinstall if up down, and it complains that it needs OZ-3.1-RC2? I downloaded it from the testing feed... |
| 02:06.39 | kergoth | force it then |
| 02:09.50 | raster | djr: OUCH! |
| 02:10.08 | Techie2000 | Yay! |
| 02:10.12 | Techie2000 | They're back |
| 02:10.17 | Techie2000 | Thanks for the help...:-) |
| 02:10.50 | kergoth | :) |
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| 02:15.16 | djr | raster: yeah... apparently i got in a fight with the ground... and i lost |
| 02:15.23 | raster | hhehhehhe |
| 02:15.28 | raster | dqmn ground |
| 02:15.32 | raster | win next time! |
| 02:15.37 | raster | make the fight worthwhile! |
| 02:15.40 | djr | hehe |
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| 05:14.23 | chouimat|Zzzz | nnight |
| 05:33.27 | kergoth | new OZ image is up |
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| 11:39.04 | godsmoke | can someone help me with installing opie-mediaplayer? It says it can't find the codecs... |
| 11:39.18 | godsmoke | this is the most recent testing feed |
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| 11:49.39 | elron | godsmoke: for my part I had to fetch the packages from unstable |
| 12:03.32 | elron | heya |
| 12:03.46 | elron | kergoth: I am currently using your experimental archive from yesterday |
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| 12:53.28 | elron | 2 more bug reports on the SF page |
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| 15:12.02 | Klu5ter | morning all |
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| 17:24.23 | elron | kergoth: I got a kernel oops today |
| 17:25.13 | kergoth | fun! |
| 17:25.26 | elron | well |
| 17:25.35 | elron | I have two remarks |
| 17:26.10 | elron | 1) it happened under heavy network load (mediaplayer playing over nfs and scp of big files (10th of Mb) to /mnt/card) |
| 17:27.01 | elron | and the oops caused A) sshd to die and B) /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/libq{t,p}e.* to diseappear |
| 17:27.52 | elron | 2) wouldn't it be nice to add ext3 support to the kernel (so that we can add journalling to ext2fs-formatted cards) or add mkfs.jffs2 to OZ ? |
| 17:27.54 | kergoth | I have one response. this is on 2.4.6, lineo/sharp's stock kernel, and as such that bug wont be fixed |
| 17:28.08 | kergoth | I have a second response, hell no, we get ext3 implicitly when we upgrade to 2.4.19. |
| 17:29.03 | elron | hmm |
| 17:29.06 | elron | about 2.4.19 |
| 17:29.22 | elron | what are your thoughts about using the 5600 sd car dmodule (for 2.4.18) ? |
| 17:29.56 | kergoth | impossible. |
| 17:30.01 | kergoth | completely different controlling hardware |
| 17:30.09 | elron | ok |
| 17:31.02 | elron | I suppose there is no spec. documentaiton available for collie SD hardware |
| 17:31.16 | kergoth | I have specs on the controller, so i can port an open source mmc driver |
| 17:31.23 | kergoth | but sd card intiialization is unknown |
| 17:32.59 | elron | what about disassembling the object file ? |
| 17:33.06 | kergoth | i'm in the US. |
| 17:33.14 | elron | oh :) |
| 17:33.15 | kergoth | and cant afford a lawsuit by sd.org, thanks |
| 17:33.18 | kergoth | :) |
| 17:33.35 | elron | that is not an irremediable situation :) |
| 17:33.48 | kergoth | find me someone outside the us with the ability.. |
| 17:33.50 | kergoth | ;) |
| 17:33.56 | kergoth | thats one possible solution, yes |
| 17:33.57 | elron | I'll think about it :) |
| 17:34.19 | elron | in fact I'm relieved to learn that most problems arise from initialization stuff |
| 17:35.40 | kergoth | in fact its apparently a single extra command to init an sd card vs mmc, we just dont know what that command is |
| 17:35.59 | elron | ok |
| 17:36.28 | elron | on the other hand, should I nderstand that there should be no problems with MMC cards ? |
| 17:36.40 | kergoth | once we add z support to one of the open source drivers, there wont |
| 17:36.44 | kergoth | its on the todo |
| 17:38.59 | elron | where can I find specs about the controller ? |
| 17:39.04 | kergoth | you cant |
| 17:39.17 | kergoth | and i'm not even sure i'll be able to add it to the open source drivers |
| 17:39.19 | kergoth | because |
| 17:39.25 | kergoth | i have the specs (japanese) under nda from sharp |
| 17:39.37 | elron | oh ok |
| 17:39.38 | kergoth | then one of the oz users translated the section on teh SPI interface for me (also under nda) |
| 17:40.21 | elron | does that keep you from publishing non-documented source code ? |
| 17:40.29 | kergoth | well thats the question isnt it? :) |
| 17:40.43 | kergoth | need to reread the terms |
| 17:40.57 | elron | ok |
| 17:42.22 | elron | why is there no objdump in the toolchain archive ? |
| 17:42.29 | kergoth | ? |
| 17:42.39 | elron | I downloaded the toolchain from official/toolchain |
| 17:42.42 | kergoth | uhh |
| 17:42.44 | kergoth | there is objdump there. |
| 17:42.49 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:42.58 | kergoth | ~/collie/build/qt-2.3.4$ /usr/local/arm/2.95.3/bin/arm-linux-objdump --version |
| 17:43.01 | kergoth | GNU objdump 2.13.2.1 |
| 17:43.02 | elron | I have 2.95.3/arm-linux/bin |
| 17:43.13 | kergoth | of course you do. |
| 17:43.17 | kergoth | you also have 2.95.3/bin/ |
| 17:43.30 | kergoth | you did download the oz-1.1 tarball, right? |
| 17:43.40 | elron | yes |
| 17:43.46 | elron | oh ok |
| 17:43.49 | elron | it was incomplete |
| 17:43.57 | elron | it did not untar completely |
| 17:43.58 | elron | sorry |
| 17:44.21 | kergoth | np |
| 17:49.23 | elron | well, SA1100 assembly is not as readable as Thumb, but... at least is has not been obfuscated |
| 17:58.57 | elron | ok, I have a local copy of the OpenEmbedded bitkeeper repository |
| 17:59.18 | elron | that's nice but.. |
| 17:59.33 | elron | there is nearly nothing about OZ in there |
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| 21:28.07 | *** topic/#openzaurus by kergoth -> OpenZaurus project - now a component of the larger Open Embedded infrastructure, /join #openembedded | OpenZaurus 3.2 released! |
| 21:30.58 | bbeattie | got the e-mail, downloading ;) |
| 21:31.08 | kergoth | :) |
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| 22:28.10 | Klu5ter | kergoth: congrats on 3.2! Well done! |
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| 22:40.35 | bbeattie | kergoth: where's the info on how to get mp3's to be sent to the buzzer? ;) |
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| 23:32.01 | Z-BUG | Hi |
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