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00:25.03 | digitalnick | how do i get networking goin with the usb connection in windows 2k? |
00:25.37 | digitalnick | my zaurus and twindows box can ping eachother |
00:25.47 | ljp | first open the security settings app, and select your sync ip |
00:25.56 | ljp | oh |
00:26.01 | digitalnick | sync ip? |
00:26.06 | digitalnick | i have the range selected |
00:26.21 | ljp | ip of the z, but if you can ping it, thats ok.. |
00:26.22 | digitalnick | i have 192.168.129.0/24 |
00:26.46 | digitalnick | i still cant get opiedesktop to sync with it though |
00:27.09 | digitalnick | i can ftp to it on 4242 |
00:27.47 | ljp | opiedesktop? |
00:28.01 | digitalnick | err qtopia desktop |
00:28.04 | digitalnick | 1.6 |
00:28.07 | ljp | :) |
00:28.20 | ljp | I havent tried syncing in a while |
00:28.44 | digitalnick | humm |
00:32.14 | digitalnick | ok how do i get my zaurus on the net then? |
01:05.56 | Shayde | re folks. |
01:08.59 | Shayde | question, the new image file for flashing. 'initrd.bin' and 'zImage' - no extension, 2nd letter caps? |
01:09.35 | kergoth`bbl | correct. |
01:09.46 | Shayde | funky. |
01:11.39 | Shayde | all i get is the flashing both lights. both lights just blink incessantly (which isn't mentioned on the installation page) |
01:16.21 | Shayde | <-- whiner. |
01:16.47 | Shayde | i'm wondering if this is a bad cf card. there was some commentary in various zaurus forums about "You can't use this CF card" |
01:20.35 | Shayde | kerg or the like - is the 'mkfs.vfat' supposed to some back with a bash prompt immediately, after giving a version number and date? |
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01:37.13 | NetNut404_PDA | hmm buzzer is different in oz 3.2? cant get it to make a sound |
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02:36.06 | nichos | Has anyone had any luck w/vnc? i have /usr/sbin/fbvncserver -fancy running, and when i connect from my linux box, it opens a window, the quits after a few min. |
02:36.31 | Shayde | i was running it for a while, worked fine. |
02:36.50 | nichos | Shayde which one? w/panel, minimal, w/split panel? |
02:37.36 | Shayde | i think i used 'em all. |
02:37.39 | Shayde | mostly with panel |
02:37.44 | nichos | how did u connect? |
02:37.55 | Shayde | using the normal vnc client. |
02:38.15 | nichos | from linux? "vnconnect?" |
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03:04.14 | mewyn | hey speedy |
03:05.01 | Speedy2 | Hey |
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03:27.40 | HeatxSink | hey kergoth |
03:27.43 | HeatxSink | I got it to work! |
03:27.44 | HeatxSink | haha |
03:27.58 | kergoth | good |
03:28.01 | kergoth | what'd you get to work? |
03:28.02 | kergoth | heh |
03:28.09 | HeatxSink | I have thus another question!! |
03:28.23 | HeatxSink | Oh I couldn't get OZ to sync with my Window's Box |
03:28.24 | HeatxSink | now I can |
03:28.38 | Speedy2 | HeatxSink: SSH? What was wrong? |
03:29.21 | HeatxSink | the SL5 tcp/ip setting were set to DHCP |
03:29.35 | duplexer_wifi | How can I change my PDA to OZ? |
03:29.35 | kergoth | heh |
03:29.42 | HeatxSink | i simply set it to 192.168.129.1 |
03:29.44 | HeatxSink | I think.. |
03:29.46 | kergoth | in other words the problem was you didnt read the faq on syncing |
03:29.55 | kergoth | heh |
03:30.09 | duplexer_wifi | faq? |
03:30.14 | kergoth | yes.. |
03:30.16 | kergoth | openzaurus.org |
03:30.20 | kergoth | the big obvious faq links |
03:30.47 | Speedy2 | Hah! I asked him if he checked the FAQ |
03:34.53 | HeatxSink | i wasn't in there!!!! |
03:35.00 | kergoth | ? |
03:35.01 | HeatxSink | I went there |
03:35.08 | kergoth | its in there. |
03:35.10 | HeatxSink | and I did not tell me jack crap |
03:35.11 | kergoth | i ought to know, i wrote it |
03:35.13 | kergoth | go read it again |
03:35.15 | kergoth | want me to paste it for you? |
03:35.16 | HeatxSink | k |
03:35.19 | HeatxSink | sure |
03:35.30 | kergoth | Speedy2: incompetence reigns around here |
03:35.35 | HeatxSink | hahaha |
03:35.37 | HeatxSink | I agree |
03:36.10 | kergoth | "Now, on the desktop, you will want to go into the network configuration for the Local Area Connection for the Zaurus. Change it from "Obtain an IP Automatically" to "Manually enter an IP." Enter the appropriate IP/mask (by default 192.168.129.1 for the IP and 255.255.255.0 for the mask)." |
03:36.15 | kergoth | HeatxSink: directly from the faq. pasted. |
03:36.20 | kergoth | seems pretty clear to me. |
03:36.24 | Speedy2 | Hey |
03:36.31 | Speedy2 | I asked him if he could ping the Z and he said yes |
03:36.38 | Speedy2 | Makes me wonder how he was able to ping it! |
03:36.42 | Speedy2 | (or what he was pinging?) |
03:36.59 | kergoth | *cough*himself? |
03:37.50 | kergoth | you know what drives me nuts. is dealing with idiocy on the phones all day at work |
03:37.54 | Speedy2 | I guess so. Anyway, we're all entiled to bozo mistakes every now and then :) |
03:37.56 | kergoth | then coming home and working on my projects |
03:38.02 | kergoth | and dealing with idiots online there |
03:38.08 | Speedy2 | Yeah...that does kind of suck. Will TrollTech hire you? |
03:38.09 | kergoth | i'm gonna go postal |
03:38.15 | kergoth | doubtful |
03:38.22 | kergoth | i dont have the GUI coding skillset necessary |
03:38.25 | Speedy2 | But you do such good work. What about Sharp? |
03:38.27 | kergoth | and i hate gui programming |
03:38.34 | Speedy2 | Well...you could do "core" programming |
03:38.40 | kergoth | my strengths lie in being able to pull in all the aspects of the system into a cohesive unit |
03:38.48 | kergoth | or, i'd like to get more into kernel development |
03:38.51 | ljp | sharp..?? hire developers?!? |
03:38.58 | ljp | hahaha hahahah |
03:38.58 | kergoth | hehe |
03:39.09 | Speedy2 | Riight, I forgot that the Japanese guys are "managing" it all (to pieces apparently) |
03:39.16 | Speedy2 | What's up with Spencer? Does he still have a job? |
03:39.36 | kergoth | spencer's there |
03:39.38 | kergoth | he's about the only one |
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03:39.42 | kergoth | he's managing fucking everything |
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03:39.48 | kergoth | i estimate burnout in weeks |
03:39.48 | kergoth | heh |
03:39.59 | ljp | he's going to go Mitchy! |
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03:40.06 | Speedy2 | Poor guy. They axed support for 5x000, right? |
03:40.09 | kergoth | yeah, i'd hate to see that happen |
03:40.10 | Speedy2 | 5x00 |
03:40.20 | Speedy2 | What does "going Mitchy" mean? |
03:40.22 | ljp | they never really had support for the 5000d |
03:40.31 | ljp | going postal.. |
03:40.32 | kergoth | mitchy had a nervous breakdown |
03:40.38 | kergoth | back in teh days of the dev contest and shit |
03:40.39 | ljp | bad joke, sorry |
03:40.52 | Speedy2 | Is he gone now? |
03:41.02 | kergoth | mitchy? naw, he's working at sharp japan still |
03:41.07 | kergoth | i dont think he's in user support anymore |
03:41.08 | kergoth | heh |
03:41.13 | HeatxSink | whoa |
03:41.48 | kergoth | I still email with him occasionally, but generally through sharp us channels first |
03:42.14 | Speedy2 | Sigh. Why did they botch this? |
03:42.24 | kergoth | they dropped the ball |
03:42.26 | kergoth | in so many fucking ways |
03:42.28 | kergoth | i hardly know where to begin |
03:42.30 | kergoth | heh |
03:42.34 | ljp | should read benmeyers essay |
03:42.44 | kergoth | yeah |
03:42.48 | Speedy2 | Was their goal to "fuck things up unbelivably?: |
03:42.49 | Speedy2 | " |
03:43.17 | kergoth | if it was, they succeeded admirably |
03:43.30 | Speedy2 | ljp: Link for Ben's essay? |
03:43.46 | ljp | http://www.csh.rit.edu/~benjamin/articles/bad_apples.php |
03:44.11 | HeatxSink | I'm now having problems with a mmc card |
03:44.12 | HeatxSink | !!! |
03:44.13 | HeatxSink | ugh |
03:45.58 | HeatxSink | when insert it |
03:46.03 | HeatxSink | it doesn't mount it |
03:46.06 | HeatxSink | !!! |
03:46.24 | kergoth | " If the community feels like they are being ignored they will leave (or worse start there own competing project)" |
03:46.27 | kergoth | ^^-hehe |
03:46.56 | Speedy2 | He made it pretty short and didn't aim any guns at anyone in particular. Does he still have a job at Sharp? |
03:47.47 | kergoth | no, he's gone |
03:49.08 | Speedy2 | So Sharp officially has axed the Z. What douche bags. |
03:49.27 | kergoth | they *may* be bringing a us version of the c700 here |
03:49.28 | HeatxSink | serious? |
03:49.29 | kergoth | havent heard |
03:49.30 | mewyn | anyone know anything about xvid/divx on the z? |
03:49.33 | HeatxSink | no way |
03:49.39 | kergoth | mewyn: ehh |
03:49.43 | kergoth | mewyn: op2 plays em just fine |
03:49.44 | kergoth | mewyn: either |
03:49.46 | Speedy2 | kergoth: And relying on you having your stuff working, right? |
03:49.54 | mewyn | what settings in encoding should be used? |
03:53.25 | Speedy2 | If they did bring a US version of C700, I assume they'd need your help? |
03:54.00 | kergoth | they already have an english rom internally at sharp japan |
03:54.05 | kergoth | though i'm sure it sucks |
03:54.08 | Speedy2 | Yeah, but their ROMs suck |
03:54.09 | Speedy2 | Heheh :) |
03:54.15 | kergoth | i have oz and opie on my c700 |
03:54.20 | kergoth | works okay, opie has some layout issues |
03:54.21 | Speedy2 | I bet you do. |
03:54.43 | HeatxSink | anyone/ |
03:54.44 | HeatxSink | ? |
03:54.49 | Speedy2 | When's the next Opie coming out? |
03:54.59 | Speedy2 | Granted they do nightly builds or something. |
03:55.25 | kergoth | opie has never released |
03:55.40 | kergoth | so snapshots are all that exist |
03:55.52 | Speedy2 | I meant like .9.4 |
03:56.09 | kergoth | ah you mean the versioned snapshots |
03:56.10 | kergoth | :) |
03:56.14 | kergoth | dunno when the next is schedules |
03:56.16 | Speedy2 | Correct sir :) |
03:56.16 | kergoth | scheduled |
03:56.16 | kergoth | bleh |
03:57.08 | Speedy2 | Do I have to get Ben Meyer's MakeTab thing to make a tab? |
03:57.15 | Speedy2 | (That should be built-in, you'd think) |
03:57.26 | kergoth | hm, i dont recall |
03:57.29 | kergoth | check launcher settings |
03:57.35 | Speedy2 | Did that |
03:57.36 | kergoth | the tabs config |
03:57.38 | kergoth | you cant add there? |
03:57.39 | mewyn | kergoth: you never had to give that thing back? |
03:57.40 | Speedy2 | It has "New" but it's greyed out |
03:57.45 | kergoth | mewyn: havent yet anyway |
03:57.50 | mewyn | YES!!! It finally worked! |
03:57.52 | kergoth | Speedy2: then yeah, use tabmanager.. or just create it manually |
03:57.58 | kergoth | Speedy2: its just a dir with a small ascii text control file |
03:58.10 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
03:58.10 | mewyn | a little desync at the beginning, but ti's ok |
03:58.27 | Speedy2 | kergoth: You'd hope they would add that functionality in...and make it more accessible than the Launcher shit |
03:59.01 | kergoth | the launcher needs a revamp in general |
03:59.03 | HeatxSink | kergoth: can you please help me with my problem? |
03:59.10 | kergoth | needs to take some ideas from matchbox |
03:59.13 | Speedy2 | HeatxSink: I don't think we know what your problem is. |
03:59.14 | kergoth | HeatxSink: mount it manually. |
03:59.18 | HeatxSink | kergoth: I've done that |
03:59.21 | kergoth | and? |
03:59.34 | kergoth | if its mounted, i dont see what the problem is |
03:59.40 | HeatxSink | kergoth: it works..like it's worked before..but I would like to know why it's not doing it automatically |
03:59.50 | kergoth | read the mailing list archives |
03:59.54 | kergoth | this is an ext2 card? |
03:59.57 | HeatxSink | yes |
04:00.02 | HeatxSink | i re-formatted it |
04:00.25 | kergoth | read the mailing list archives |
04:00.34 | kergoth | this has been covered in _at least_ 7 threads |
04:00.40 | HeatxSink | thanks |
04:00.43 | HeatxSink | will do |
04:00.45 | HeatxSink | thanks alot |
04:00.49 | kergoth | np |
04:05.12 | mewyn | ok, now that i finally got this stuff encoding, i'm going to bed |
04:23.02 | HeatxSink | i'm reformmating my MMC Card to get rid of the old vfat stuff |
04:23.05 | HeatxSink | thanks kergoth |
04:28.43 | HeatxSink | hey kergoth |
04:34.37 | HeatxSink | is there anyway I could get libstdc++? |
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17:40.45 | nichos | has anyone had any troubles w/xp when you ping the zaurus from command, it reboots xp? |
17:47.42 | oberon | hehe |
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21:49.24 | George- | bleh, mark really infuriates me at times |
21:49.37 | George- | he just populated my chan with trolls |
21:49.46 | kergoth | fun |
21:51.00 | George- | kergoth: unfortunately, the chan had expired out of registration, and I had to get an IRC op to give me ops so I could register the chan so I could kick the damn trolls |
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