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00:25.03digitalnickhow do i get networking goin with the usb connection in windows 2k?
00:25.37digitalnickmy zaurus and twindows box can ping eachother
00:25.47ljpfirst open the security settings app, and select your sync ip
00:25.56ljpoh
00:26.01digitalnicksync ip?
00:26.06digitalnicki have the range selected
00:26.21ljpip of the z, but if you can ping it, thats ok..
00:26.22digitalnicki have 192.168.129.0/24
00:26.46digitalnicki still cant get opiedesktop to sync with it though
00:27.09digitalnicki can ftp to it on 4242
00:27.47ljpopiedesktop?
00:28.01digitalnickerr qtopia desktop
00:28.04digitalnick1.6
00:28.07ljp:)
00:28.20ljpI havent tried syncing in a while
00:28.44digitalnickhumm
00:32.14digitalnickok how do i get my zaurus on the net then?
01:05.56Shaydere folks.
01:08.59Shaydequestion, the new image file for flashing.  'initrd.bin' and 'zImage' - no extension, 2nd letter caps?
01:09.35kergoth`bblcorrect.
01:09.46Shaydefunky.
01:11.39Shaydeall i get is the flashing both lights.  both lights just blink incessantly (which isn't mentioned on the installation page)
01:16.21Shayde<-- whiner.
01:16.47Shaydei'm wondering if this is a bad cf card.  there was some commentary in various zaurus forums about "You can't use this CF card"
01:20.35Shaydekerg or the like - is the 'mkfs.vfat' supposed to some back with a bash prompt immediately, after giving a version number and date?
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01:37.13NetNut404_PDAhmm buzzer is different in oz 3.2?  cant get it to make a sound
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02:36.06nichosHas anyone had any luck w/vnc? i have /usr/sbin/fbvncserver -fancy running, and when i connect from my linux box, it opens a window, the quits after a few min.
02:36.31Shaydei was running it for a while, worked fine.
02:36.50nichosShayde which one? w/panel, minimal, w/split panel?
02:37.36Shaydei think i used 'em all.
02:37.39Shaydemostly with panel
02:37.44nichoshow did u connect?
02:37.55Shaydeusing the normal vnc client.
02:38.15nichosfrom linux? "vnconnect?"
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03:04.14mewynhey speedy
03:05.01Speedy2Hey
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03:27.40HeatxSinkhey kergoth
03:27.43HeatxSinkI got it to work!
03:27.44HeatxSinkhaha
03:27.58kergothgood
03:28.01kergothwhat'd you get to work?
03:28.02kergothheh
03:28.09HeatxSinkI have thus another question!!
03:28.23HeatxSinkOh I couldn't get OZ to sync with my Window's Box
03:28.24HeatxSinknow I can
03:28.38Speedy2HeatxSink: SSH? What was wrong?
03:29.21HeatxSinkthe SL5 tcp/ip setting were set to DHCP
03:29.35duplexer_wifiHow can I change my PDA to OZ?
03:29.35kergothheh
03:29.42HeatxSinki simply set it to 192.168.129.1
03:29.44HeatxSinkI think..
03:29.46kergothin other words the problem was you didnt read the faq on syncing
03:29.55kergothheh
03:30.09duplexer_wififaq?
03:30.14kergothyes..
03:30.16kergothopenzaurus.org
03:30.20kergoththe big obvious faq links
03:30.47Speedy2Hah! I asked him if he checked the FAQ
03:34.53HeatxSinki wasn't in there!!!!
03:35.00kergoth?
03:35.01HeatxSinkI went there
03:35.08kergothits in there.
03:35.10HeatxSinkand I did not tell me jack crap
03:35.11kergothi ought to know, i wrote it
03:35.13kergothgo read it again
03:35.15kergothwant me to paste it for you?
03:35.16HeatxSinkk
03:35.19HeatxSinksure
03:35.30kergothSpeedy2: incompetence reigns around here
03:35.35HeatxSinkhahaha
03:35.37HeatxSinkI agree
03:36.10kergoth"Now, on the desktop, you will want to go into the network configuration for the Local Area Connection for the Zaurus. Change it from "Obtain an IP Automatically" to "Manually enter an IP." Enter the appropriate IP/mask (by default 192.168.129.1 for the IP and 255.255.255.0 for the mask)."
03:36.15kergothHeatxSink: directly from the faq. pasted.
03:36.20kergothseems pretty clear to me.
03:36.24Speedy2Hey
03:36.31Speedy2I asked him if he could ping the Z and he said yes
03:36.38Speedy2Makes me wonder how he was able to ping it!
03:36.42Speedy2(or what he was pinging?)
03:36.59kergoth*cough*himself?
03:37.50kergothyou know what drives me nuts. is dealing with idiocy on the phones all day at work
03:37.54Speedy2I guess so. Anyway, we're all entiled to bozo mistakes every now and then :)
03:37.56kergoththen coming home and working on my projects
03:38.02kergothand dealing with idiots online there
03:38.08Speedy2Yeah...that does kind of suck. Will TrollTech hire you?
03:38.09kergothi'm gonna go postal
03:38.15kergothdoubtful
03:38.22kergothi dont have the GUI coding skillset necessary
03:38.25Speedy2But you do such good work. What about Sharp?
03:38.27kergothand i hate gui programming
03:38.34Speedy2Well...you could do "core" programming
03:38.40kergothmy strengths lie in being able to pull in all the aspects of the system into a cohesive unit
03:38.48kergothor, i'd like to get more into kernel development
03:38.51ljpsharp..?? hire developers?!?
03:38.58ljphahaha hahahah
03:38.58kergothhehe
03:39.09Speedy2Riight, I forgot that the Japanese guys are "managing" it all (to pieces apparently)
03:39.16Speedy2What's up with Spencer? Does he still have a job?
03:39.36kergothspencer's there
03:39.38kergothhe's about the only one
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03:39.42kergothhe's managing fucking everything
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03:39.48kergothi estimate burnout in weeks
03:39.48kergothheh
03:39.59ljphe's going to go Mitchy!
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03:40.06Speedy2Poor guy. They axed support for 5x000, right?
03:40.09kergothyeah, i'd hate to see that happen
03:40.10Speedy25x00
03:40.20Speedy2What does "going Mitchy" mean?
03:40.22ljpthey never really had support for the 5000d
03:40.31ljpgoing postal..
03:40.32kergothmitchy had a nervous breakdown
03:40.38kergothback in teh days of the dev contest and shit
03:40.39ljpbad joke, sorry
03:40.52Speedy2Is he gone now?
03:41.02kergothmitchy? naw, he's working at sharp japan still
03:41.07kergothi dont think he's in user support anymore
03:41.08kergothheh
03:41.13HeatxSinkwhoa
03:41.48kergothI still email with him occasionally, but generally through sharp us channels first
03:42.14Speedy2Sigh. Why did they botch this?
03:42.24kergoththey dropped the ball
03:42.26kergothin so many fucking ways
03:42.28kergothi hardly know where to begin
03:42.30kergothheh
03:42.34ljpshould read benmeyers essay
03:42.44kergothyeah
03:42.48Speedy2Was their goal to "fuck things up unbelivably?:
03:42.49Speedy2"
03:43.17kergothif it was, they succeeded admirably
03:43.30Speedy2ljp: Link for Ben's essay?
03:43.46ljphttp://www.csh.rit.edu/~benjamin/articles/bad_apples.php
03:44.11HeatxSinkI'm now having problems with a mmc card
03:44.12HeatxSink!!!
03:44.13HeatxSinkugh
03:45.58HeatxSinkwhen insert it
03:46.03HeatxSinkit doesn't mount it
03:46.06HeatxSink!!!
03:46.24kergoth" If the community feels like they are being ignored they will leave (or worse start there own competing project)"
03:46.27kergoth^^-hehe
03:46.56Speedy2He made it pretty short and didn't aim any guns at anyone in particular. Does he still have a job at Sharp?
03:47.47kergothno, he's gone
03:49.08Speedy2So Sharp officially has axed the Z. What douche bags.
03:49.27kergoththey *may* be bringing a us version of the c700 here
03:49.28HeatxSinkserious?
03:49.29kergothhavent heard
03:49.30mewynanyone know anything about xvid/divx on the z?
03:49.33HeatxSinkno way
03:49.39kergothmewyn: ehh
03:49.43kergothmewyn: op2 plays em just fine
03:49.44kergothmewyn: either
03:49.46Speedy2kergoth: And relying on you having your stuff working, right?
03:49.54mewynwhat settings in encoding should be used?
03:53.25Speedy2If they did bring a US version of C700, I assume they'd need your help?
03:54.00kergoththey already have an english rom internally at sharp japan
03:54.05kergoththough i'm sure it sucks
03:54.08Speedy2Yeah, but their ROMs suck
03:54.09Speedy2Heheh :)
03:54.15kergothi have oz and opie on my c700
03:54.20kergothworks okay, opie has some layout issues
03:54.21Speedy2I bet you do.
03:54.43HeatxSinkanyone/
03:54.44HeatxSink?
03:54.49Speedy2When's the next Opie coming out?
03:54.59Speedy2Granted they do nightly builds or something.
03:55.25kergothopie has never released
03:55.40kergothso snapshots are all that exist
03:55.52Speedy2I meant like .9.4
03:56.09kergothah you mean the versioned snapshots
03:56.10kergoth:)
03:56.14kergothdunno when the next is schedules
03:56.16Speedy2Correct sir :)
03:56.16kergothscheduled
03:56.16kergothbleh
03:57.08Speedy2Do I have to get Ben Meyer's MakeTab thing to make a tab?
03:57.15Speedy2(That should be built-in, you'd think)
03:57.26kergothhm, i dont recall
03:57.29kergothcheck launcher settings
03:57.35Speedy2Did that
03:57.36kergoththe tabs config
03:57.38kergothyou cant add there?
03:57.39mewynkergoth: you never had to give that thing back?
03:57.40Speedy2It has "New" but it's greyed out
03:57.45kergothmewyn: havent yet anyway
03:57.50mewynYES!!! It finally worked!
03:57.52kergothSpeedy2: then yeah, use tabmanager.. or just create it manually
03:57.58kergothSpeedy2: its just a dir with a small ascii text control file
03:58.10kergoth<PROTECTED>
03:58.10mewyna little desync at the beginning, but ti's ok
03:58.27Speedy2kergoth: You'd hope they would add that functionality in...and make it more accessible than the Launcher shit
03:59.01kergoththe launcher needs a revamp in general
03:59.03HeatxSinkkergoth: can you please help me with my problem?
03:59.10kergothneeds to take some ideas from matchbox
03:59.13Speedy2HeatxSink: I don't think we know what your problem is.
03:59.14kergothHeatxSink: mount it manually.
03:59.18HeatxSinkkergoth: I've done that
03:59.21kergothand?
03:59.34kergothif its mounted, i dont see what the problem is
03:59.40HeatxSinkkergoth: it works..like it's worked before..but I would like to know why it's not doing it automatically
03:59.50kergothread the mailing list archives
03:59.54kergoththis is an ext2 card?
03:59.57HeatxSinkyes
04:00.02HeatxSinki re-formatted it
04:00.25kergothread the mailing list archives
04:00.34kergoththis has been covered in _at least_ 7 threads
04:00.40HeatxSinkthanks
04:00.43HeatxSinkwill do
04:00.45HeatxSinkthanks alot
04:00.49kergothnp
04:05.12mewynok, now that i finally got this stuff encoding, i'm going to bed
04:23.02HeatxSinki'm reformmating my MMC Card to get rid of the old vfat stuff
04:23.05HeatxSinkthanks kergoth
04:28.43HeatxSinkhey kergoth
04:34.37HeatxSinkis there anyway I could get libstdc++?
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17:40.45nichoshas anyone had any troubles w/xp when you ping the zaurus from command, it reboots xp?
17:47.42oberonhehe
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19:20.19toolafialnichos: really? it reboot XP?
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21:49.24George-bleh, mark really infuriates me at times
21:49.37George-he just populated my chan with trolls
21:49.46kergothfun
21:51.00George-kergoth: unfortunately, the chan had expired out of registration, and I had to get an IRC op to give me ops so I could register the chan so I could kick the damn trolls
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23:04.25toolafialGeorge-: Ha ha
23:05.33George-toolafial: what
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