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00:19.10heatxsinkisn't there a website that is archieving the internet of websites from the past?
00:20.58cynToparchive.org
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01:05.48rusty^_^hi all
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01:49.26Pietehey guys..
01:49.34George-hey Piete...
01:50.26Pieteanyone know how kergoth took that screenshot of kernel 2.4.19 on the zaurus? I can't find the sceenshot.. it involved something with /dev/fb0 ...
01:50.46cynTopeh
01:50.46George-cat /dev/fb0 > screenshot
01:50.56George-then you manipulate it using ppm2whatever iirc
01:50.57cynTopteh framebuffer
01:51.07George-er..
01:51.12George-ppmto<foo>
01:51.20Pieteok.. thanks
01:51.37Pietedo I have to ctrl+c ?
01:51.42George-Piete: not sure though
01:51.47George-ctrl+c?
01:51.48cynTopshouldn't
01:51.49George-uhh
01:51.55cynTopit should exit immediately
01:51.59cynTopwon't sit around waiting
01:52.09Pieteok.. thanks guys :)
01:52.28George-cynTop: it might do if sustained data transfer rate to wherever you're saving it is 1kb/hour :)
01:52.31cynTopGeorge-: i think he meant the key-combo for screenshot, maybe that works
01:52.47George-cynTop: and the screen resolution is 99999999999999999999999999999x999999999999999999999999999999
01:52.48George-:)
01:52.55cynTopman
01:53.07cynTopthat'd be one sickass resolution for a desktop, let alone a handheld
01:53.28PietecynTop: actualy, I have this error on my desktop in console, but I have no way of copying it :)
01:53.40PietecynTop: so I thought if I can take a screenie of it.. well you get the idea
01:54.26PietecynTop: lol,, you'd need a serious microscope to read your email ;)
01:56.12Pietehmm,no,, cat /dev/fb0 > file doesnt exit at all
01:56.18Pietemaybe echo?
01:56.53cynTopwait
01:57.05cynTopyou may not have framebuffer on your kernel
01:57.11PieteI sure have :)
01:57.12cynTopdid you compile it yourself
01:57.13cynTopok
01:57.17Pieteyup
01:58.43cynTopcat'ing doesn't seem to return a ppm
01:59.31Pieteyea.. echo doesnt work either.. the file is like 9 bytes..
01:59.53cynTopon my laptop here I get a 12meg file
02:00.06cynTopthe 'file' itself is a character device
02:00.22cynTopit itself doesn't have a size, you're catting the contents of your screen to a file essentially
02:00.36cynTopfn+shift+c doesn't screenshot to a .bmp somewhere?
02:00.43Pietefn?
02:00.56cynTopive a c700 i dunno what the kb on the 55/5600's have
02:01.21PietecynTop: btw,, this is my desktop computer we are talking 'bout here :)
02:01.59cynTopoh you want a screenshot of your desktop
02:01.59cynTophahaha
02:02.05cynTopimport -window root root.jpeg
02:02.16cynTop'man import' for more fancier options
02:02.19cynTophah
02:02.27cynTopI clearly missed that at some point, my bad :)
02:02.35Pieteits not in X :)
02:02.40cynTopahhhhh
02:02.48cynTopare you using the framebuffer in console?
02:02.52Pietehttp://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/IpaqScreenshots/editform
02:03.14cynTopaka is it built into the kernel w/ the options passed as it were
02:03.20cynTopor is it modularized
02:04.04Pieteframebuffer support is in kernel proper
02:04.07cynTopyou could just redirect the output of whatever yer seeing to a file
02:04.59cynTop$ command > output_file 2>&1
02:05.16Pieteheh, interesting,, now cat actualy exits :) the output file needs to have a .raw at the end for some reason :)
02:05.23PietecynTop: thanks for the help :)
02:05.42PietecynTop: the only problem is, the error only occurs 30 minutes after the command is executes
02:05.47cynTophaha
02:05.48cynTop!
02:05.49Pieteexecuted even
02:06.00cynTopdefinately a need for cat in such acase
02:06.10cynTopI couldn't get the fb cat file recognized as ppm
02:06.16cynTopI think it's raw but I haven't messed with raws in some time
02:06.41Piete- ./raw2ppm screen.raw > screen.ppm
02:07.10cynTopyea
02:07.19cynTopmy rawtoppm insisted on the dimensions
02:07.25cynTopbut the results were..... interesting :)
02:07.40cynTopit's definately the contents of my screen, at least, much of it is
02:08.13Pieteheh, yea,, interesting ;)
02:09.04Pietetry this converter :: it doesnt need any options
02:09.06Pietehttp://dragons.espsw.net/ToyKeeper/raw2ppm.c
02:09.17Pieteugh, it 404s
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14:00.27nichosis there a minimum requirement for space for opieplayer? i flashed my Z again, and tried the 64/0, and the 58/8 images, and i cant get mplayer to work anymore - ive been installing everything to my SD card
14:07.45damohasiwhats the player claiming?
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15:49.39OctaneZanyone used syncing a zaurus under linux? (trying to get it working so I can upgrade)
15:50.16damohasiOctaneZ: you can simply backup you data by copying the xml-files
15:50.49OctaneZdamohasi: as I don't have a CF/SD reader that is proving difficult
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15:51.15OctaneZis there no way to "sync" it to qtopia dektop under linux? (haven't been able to find a way)
15:51.57damohasiOctaneZ: of course there is a way of synching. just didnt use it under linux. but you can simply scp everything you need
15:53.50OctaneZdamohasi: to do either of those I need to get the driver off the cd onto the zaurus
15:54.07damohasiwhich driver?
15:54.35OctaneZCF wifi (spectrum24)
15:54.45damohasiwhat about the usb?
15:54.52damohasiits connected by tcpip
15:56.22OctaneZit uses TCP over USB, yes, however I can't find a driver/anything in qtopiadesktop to fascilitate talking to it like that
15:57.12damohasiso just log onto your zaurus by scp and backup the very files
15:57.19damohasiyou wont need any driver for that
15:57.25damohasior ftp either
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21:47.38Ritl3nI jsut flashed to OZ 3.2 and I can't use the stable feed. All depends fail.
21:48.08Ritl3nIf I force the depends, it installs everything.
21:48.17kergoth`bblworks just flawlessly here.
21:49.17Ritl3nCant satisfy the following deps packet-modules (=2.4.6-rmk1-np2-embedix-2)
21:49.43kergoth`bblthats a depend bug in the kernel and kernel module packages only.
21:49.49kergoth`bbland its already fixed
21:49.59Ritl3nOk, how do I fix  it?
21:50.06kergoth`bblyou dont.
21:50.22Ritl3nwhere are the fix versions?
21:50.24kergoth`bbllong term you'll upgrade your kernel modules packages to those in unstable
21:50.44kergoth`bblbut unstable needs an update
21:50.47kergoth`bbl*all* fixes go into unstsable.
21:50.58kergoth`bblnothing goes into stable unless its critical, prior to a release
21:51.52Ritl3nSo there is a bug in the deps, I have to update the kernel mods using the unstable feed?
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21:53.31kergoth`bblyes, but i wouldnt recommend touching unstalbe until it gets another update
21:54.26Ritl3nIs there a work around for using the stable tree
21:55.42kergoth`bbl'work around'?
21:55.47kergoth`bblits a bug in the packages
21:55.53kergoth`bblwhat do you want me to do, wave a magic wand?
21:56.19kergoth`bbl-force-depends _is_ the workaround
21:56.28Ritl3nok
21:56.42kergoth`bblunless you want to manually edit your ipkg database and remove references to package-modules. which is hackish at best. and you're on your own in doing so.
21:56.50Ritl3nok
21:56.54Ritl3nthks
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22:47.54LPLanyone have advice on getting opie helpbrowser to work in latest stable release..
22:49.17ljp_are there actual help docs at all?
22:49.29kergothinstalling help docs does make it more useful.
22:49.51LPLlol.. i have some installed its not picking them up
22:49.58ljp_writing help docs makes it even more useful
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