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| 04:05.44 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
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| 09:30.22 | Twiun | Gooood morning everyone |
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| 09:53.03 | SillyZ | mornin Twiun |
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| 10:13.54 | BaTfInK | hi guys |
| 10:16.19 | BaTfInK | having problems locating the dependencies for usbd-common, any1 help? |
| 10:21.25 | BaTfInK | no ok then, will keep trying :( |
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| 11:21.54 | BaTfInK | can any enlighten me where ipkg caches the update list? |
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| 12:08.40 | peter_ | i got the following error when doing make image: Creating jffs2 image... |
| 12:08.40 | peter_ | /home/peter/buildroot-neu/buildroot-oz/build/mtd/util/mkfs.jffs2 --eraseblock=131072 --root=/home/peter/buildroot-neu/buildroot-oz/output/rootfs --little-endian --squash --pad=14680064 --faketime --devtable=/home/peter/buildroot-neu/buildroot-oz/output/device_table-minimal.txt -n --output=/home/peter/buildroot-neu/buildroot-oz/output/images/initrd.bin; |
| 12:08.40 | peter_ | /home/peter/buildroot-neu/buildroot-oz/scripts/pad 14811134 /home/peter/buildroot-neu/buildroot-oz/output/images/initrd.bin |
| 12:08.42 | peter_ | /home/peter/buildroot-neu/buildroot-oz/scripts/pad: /home/peter/buildroot-neu/buildroot-oz/scripts/pad: cannot execute binary file .... what does the padding of the image is good for? i tried disabling the padding of the image using make image_menuconfig and the image worked as well ..!? |
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| 12:19.44 | peter_ | pad seems to be compiled for arm but called when make image on i386 !? any comments regarding this ? |
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| 13:14.33 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:17.36 | Twiun | hey chouimat |
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| 13:44.58 | chouimat | http://lwn.net/Articles/29829/ |
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| 13:48.41 | BaTfInK | any1 help. Had a look about but with no luck. My PDA does not suspend???? |
| 13:54.06 | BaTfInK | looks like no one is on during the day or I am rather boring |
| 14:02.32 | peter_ | i`m on.....:) |
| 14:02.43 | peter_ | but not too many others..... |
| 14:05.22 | LaBrAt | hi peter_ |
| 14:05.40 | LaBrAt | able to help with my problem? |
| 14:07.02 | peter_ | the suspend thing? no.....sorry..... |
| 14:07.08 | LaBrAt | np |
| 14:07.28 | peter_ | i`m relative new to this embedding linux and openzaurus stuff and have to figure it out myself first..... |
| 14:07.53 | LaBrAt | it was reported on sf, but kergoth said it worked for him, so no fix, i think anyway |
| 14:08.13 | LaBrAt | tell me about it |
| 14:08.37 | peter_ | what exactly is the problem.....it does not "power down" ? |
| 14:09.15 | LaBrAt | yeah just doesnt suspend after a set amount of time |
| 14:10.29 | peter_ | i just have a minimal openzaurus version right here, but even this version powers down after 60 seconds when diconnected from the power cable.... |
| 14:10.57 | peter_ | so only console....... |
| 14:11.23 | LaBrAt | np |
| 14:11.33 | LaBrAt | will call back later on then |
| 14:11.42 | peter_ | which version do you use? self compiled or official 3.2 ? |
| 14:11.52 | LaBrAt | off 3.2 stable |
| 14:12.35 | peter_ | mhm... but it only suspends when in battery mode !? :) |
| 14:13.02 | LaBrAt | no and on ac |
| 14:14.24 | peter_ | my z only susends when disconnected from ac, but maybe thats a config question.... |
| 14:14.45 | LaBrAt | u can config to suspend on AC |
| 14:14.53 | peter_ | mhm, ok |
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| 14:56.05 | pHluid | So um |
| 14:56.12 | pHluid | With "Suspend after..." set in Light & Power |
| 14:56.15 | pHluid | it just doesn't? |
| 15:00.40 | LaBrAt | pHluid: u too, I get this |
| 15:00.52 | LaBrAt | was asking earlier |
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| 15:01.35 | pHluid | No, works for me :) |
| 15:01.43 | LaBrAt | :( |
| 15:01.44 | pHluid | Just trying to make sure I got what you were saying |
| 15:01.48 | pHluid | It simply doesn't suspend? |
| 15:01.50 | pHluid | Does the screen dim? |
| 15:02.24 | LaBrAt | setting in AC, suspend after .... does work. No dimming or anything |
| 15:02.51 | pHluid | sounds like apm isn't working at all |
| 15:03.06 | LaBrAt | was a fresh flash?? |
| 15:03.23 | LaBrAt | a bug was logged for this, but to no prevail |
| 15:03.36 | LaBrAt | could be user error, who knows :) |
| 15:04.29 | pHluid | I don't see it under Open |
| 15:04.32 | pHluid | Is it a closed bug? |
| 15:04.44 | LaBrAt | think so will dig it out |
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| 15:04.58 | pHluid | Speaking of which, I need to post one |
| 15:05.12 | pHluid | OZ 3.2 hangs on bootup with a Socket Low Power Ethernet card inserted |
| 15:05.23 | LaBrAt | :( |
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| 15:07.02 | LaBrAt | [ 543832 ] suspend not at all |
| 15:07.15 | LaBrAt | from sf |
| 15:07.51 | pHluid | link |
| 15:08.06 | LaBrAt | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=43045&atid=434956&func=detail&aid=543832 |
| 15:08.09 | LaBrAt | sorry |
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| 15:09.39 | LaBrAt | great Z just hung again after suspend :( |
| 15:09.51 | LaBrAt | only have a serialIO cable connected |
| 15:10.08 | kergoth`zzz | i've never seen the Z hang on suspend or resume when not on the usb cradle. |
| 15:11.37 | pHluid | heh, kergoth, did you submit that suspend bug? |
| 15:12.27 | LaBrAt | obviously a trait I have then :) |
| 15:12.29 | kergoth`zzz | what? |
| 15:12.34 | kergoth`zzz | submit what suspend bug |
| 15:12.38 | pHluid | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=43045&atid=434956&func=detail&aid=543832 |
| 15:12.40 | kergoth`zzz | on the cradle? |
| 15:12.49 | kergoth`zzz | dodo, suspend/resume hang on teh cralde has had about 43 bugs opened |
| 15:12.55 | kergoth`zzz | and subsequently closed by me as fixed |
| 15:12.56 | kergoth`zzz | over |
| 15:12.57 | kergoth`zzz | and over |
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| 15:13.02 | pHluid | Dude. |
| 15:13.06 | pHluid | You wanna read it? |
| 15:13.11 | pHluid | This isn't the usb cradle thing. |
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| 15:13.50 | pHluid | this is the never-goes-into-suspend thing, which is what labrat is getting |
| 15:13.52 | dromm | hello |
| 15:14.01 | kergoth`zzz | never seen that. |
| 15:14.09 | kergoth`zzz | all opie *does* is calls apm -s |
| 15:14.14 | kergoth`zzz | if apm -s works, then opie should suspend |
| 15:14.14 | kergoth`zzz | heh |
| 15:14.29 | kergoth`zzz | brb |
| 15:14.55 | LaBrAt | apm -s works manually, can confirm |
| 15:15.09 | pHluid | Labrat: Dunno what to tell you man, you can try apm and light and power from the testing or unstable feeds maybe? |
| 15:15.54 | LaBrAt | will do. |
| 15:16.25 | LaBrAt | tried to get the usbd-common to fix the cradle hanging, but could not find the dependencies. Am I being a bit thick? |
| 15:16.38 | pHluid | They're all in testing |
| 15:17.08 | LaBrAt | so the dependencies for usbd-common don't exist? |
| 15:18.13 | pHluid | er, heh |
| 15:18.19 | pHluid | I thought they were in testing |
| 15:18.26 | pHluid | but yeh, they're not there |
| 15:18.31 | kergoth`zzz | look in old/ |
| 15:18.40 | kergoth`zzz | bipolar updated the feed, but some packages weree misssing in his build |
| 15:18.41 | LaBrAt | maybe me missing, but cant find them in testing |
| 15:18.43 | kergoth`zzz | :\ |
| 15:18.51 | LaBrAt | cheers kergoth`zzz |
| 15:18.58 | LaBrAt | thought it was me |
| 15:20.12 | LaBrAt | any thoughts on the suspend thing kergoth`zzz |
| 15:20.14 | LaBrAt | ? |
| 15:20.18 | bipolar | I think usb-common is broken, with it's dependancies. I don't think that the usb modules are split into seprate packages yet. I have only my gut feeling as proof. :) |
| 15:21.37 | LaBrAt | it has locked again after coming back from apm -s |
| 15:21.58 | LaBrAt | not in a cradle though has a serialIO USB cable connected |
| 15:22.46 | LaBrAt | I can only resolve it by hitting "Replace Battery" :( |
| 15:23.15 | kergoth`zzz | LaBrAt: is the usb cable connected tot he pc? |
| 15:23.21 | kergoth`zzz | LaBrAt: then *obviously* it'll crash |
| 15:23.33 | kergoth`zzz | thats the infamous suspend/resume hang |
| 15:23.36 | LaBrAt | dope, true |
| 15:23.44 | kergoth`zzz | the one thats fixed by usbd-common |
| 15:23.49 | kergoth`zzz | just -force-depends the damn thing in for now |
| 15:23.56 | LaBrAt | sometimes I amaze myself :) |
| 15:24.06 | LaBrAt | ok my friend |
| 15:24.18 | kergoth`zzz | that should take care of that one. not sure whats causing the apm -s thing |
| 15:24.35 | LaBrAt | I know strange |
| 15:25.49 | LaBrAt | anywhere I can read the problem of why Z's hang on USB connection ? |
| 15:27.21 | kergoth | the lineo USBD stack is flawed |
| 15:27.28 | kergoth | and its whats crashing the Z on suspend/resume |
| 15:27.31 | kergoth | usbd-common works around it |
| 15:27.38 | kergoth | by unloading the usbd modules on suspend, then reloading them on resume |
| 15:27.45 | kergoth | so that usbd never has to respond to suspend/resume events |
| 15:28.08 | LaBrAt | nice one kergoth |
| 15:28.28 | LaBrAt | makes good sense |
| 15:31.09 | LaBrAt | can I ask a really silly question? |
| 15:31.15 | LaBrAt | I am sorry in advance |
| 15:31.46 | LaBrAt | what is collie? |
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| 15:38.14 | LaBrAt | lovely, well so far Z doesn't hang after suspend :) But still doesn't suspend after time set :( |
| 15:39.09 | pHluid | Labrat: Does holding down the power button to suspend work? |
| 15:39.17 | LaBrAt | pHluid: yes |
| 15:39.26 | pHluid | Maybe you should just remember to do that :) |
| 15:39.27 | LaBrAt | pHluid: and apm -s |
| 15:39.37 | LaBrAt | yeah maybe |
| 15:39.52 | pHluid | or try the shit from testing/unstable, like I said, but I have no clue if that will fix it |
| 15:40.06 | LaBrAt | will do my friend when more time |
| 15:40.49 | LaBrAt | will look into what packages I need tonight |
| 15:46.38 | LaBrAt | was it a really silly question about collie then? |
| 16:01.42 | kergoth | ibot: collie |
| 16:01.43 | | somebody said collie was sharp sl-5500 and sl-5000d, or a dog |
| 16:07.14 | LaBrAt | cheers kergoth, collie what the hell |
| 16:07.58 | LaBrAt | zaurus, collie, nope don't see it |
| 16:08.59 | cyn | woof |
| 16:09.02 | cyn | ibot: corgi |
| 16:09.03 | | extra, extra, read all about it, corgi is sharp sl-c700, or a dog |
| 16:09.54 | LaBrAt | so their codenames where after dogs, lol |
| 16:10.41 | cyn | ibot: poodle |
| 16:10.41 | | it has been said that poodle is sharp sl-b500/5600, or a dog |
| 16:10.50 | cyn | whats the a300's name |
| 16:14.18 | LaBrAt | ibot is a handy tool |
| 16:14.19 | | LaBrAt: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 16:14.35 | LaBrAt | lol |
| 16:14.43 | LaBrAt | ibot: labrat |
| 16:14.44 | | LaBrAt: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 16:15.02 | LaBrAt | ibot: collie |
| 16:15.05 | | somebody said collie was sharp sl-5500 and sl-5000d, or a dog |
| 16:15.13 | LaBrAt | ibot: sharp |
| 16:15.15 | | oh Great Googli-Moogli! |
| 16:15.32 | LaBrAt | lol |
| 16:19.41 | pHluid | Labrat: Don't make us take ibot away. |
| 16:22.26 | LaBrAt | pHluid: hey was just using for the first time |
| 16:23.30 | cyn | bot spam makes baby jesus cry |
| 16:24.19 | LaBrAt | ok sorry, was just impressed |
| 16:24.48 | cyn | :) sok |
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| 16:26.19 | LaBrAt | quick question. In light and power/ Suspend After ... This is based on inactivity of the Z? |
| 16:26.46 | LaBrAt | I mean if it hasnt been used then it will suspend after ... |
| 16:29.11 | pHluid | right. |
| 16:29.43 | LaBrAt | is this based on key presses or processor inactivity? |
| 16:30.04 | LaBrAt | I ask as I am SSH'd in waiting for it to suspend |
| 16:31.41 | cyn | key presses afaik |
| 16:31.56 | LaBrAt | hmmm, ok kills my theory then |
| 16:32.15 | LaBrAt | just updated light and power and no suspend still :( |
| 16:32.29 | cyn | since the kernel idling doesn't properly show up as idling, don't know that it could tell when it's truly idle |
| 16:32.29 | pHluid | update apm? |
| 16:33.07 | kergoth | it wont be an apm problem if you can apm -s manually |
| 16:33.25 | LaBrAt | kergoth: indeed, hence I did not update |
| 16:33.41 | LaBrAt | I just update the opie-light and power |
| 16:33.57 | kergoth | its libopie that handles the opie suspend function |
| 16:34.08 | kergoth | is your Z properly identified in sysinfo's version panel? |
| 16:34.28 | LaBrAt | ah ok, sorry kergoth, my lack of experience invokes silly questions |
| 16:35.14 | LaBrAt | I just disconnected from my serialIO USB cable and left for a while and it worked ??? |
| 16:35.54 | kergoth | usb irqs are probably used as a wakeup/preventsuspend signal, in kernel. even if opie tried to suspend, it might not |
| 16:35.57 | kergoth | brb |
| 16:36.49 | pHluid | Labrat |
| 16:36.51 | pHluid | Dork |
| 16:36.56 | pHluid | The SerialIO is a charger |
| 16:36.57 | LaBrAt | why? |
| 16:37.04 | pHluid | The Z thinks it's on AC power if that's plugged in |
| 16:37.05 | LaBrAt | yeah and |
| 16:37.11 | pHluid | so of course it won't suspend |
| 16:37.21 | LaBrAt | you can tell it in the AC tab to suspend |
| 16:37.30 | kergoth | did you? |
| 16:37.32 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:37.35 | LaBrAt | yes |
| 16:37.46 | kergoth | then like i said, it probably prevented suspend due to the aactivity |
| 16:38.37 | LaBrAt | kergoth: interesting, so there is no way round that then. Just want to turn off the LCD |
| 16:38.55 | pHluid | Labrat: Did you try checking "Turn off LCD only" under the AC tab? |
| 16:39.06 | LaBrAt | pHluid: does that mean you can take back that comment :) |
| 16:39.12 | LaBrAt | pHluid: yep |
| 16:39.24 | pHluid | I take back nothing |
| 16:39.26 | pHluid | :P |
| 16:39.37 | LaBrAt | lol, ok my friend |
| 16:40.12 | LaBrAt | so it seems to be usb irqs :( |
| 16:40.24 | LaBrAt | must be a way to just turn of the lcd |
| 16:40.31 | pHluid | meh |
| 16:40.46 | pHluid | does anybody know where I could buy like the ribbon or thinned out cat5 ethernet cable |
| 16:40.55 | pHluid | searching always brings up 10Base2 cables |
| 16:40.59 | pHluid | Which is not what I want :) |
| 16:41.14 | LaBrAt | I am in the UK, so probably not much help |
| 16:41.58 | pHluid | I just want a length of the ribbon-style or something to fold up a little better in my bag, for my Z |
| 16:42.21 | pHluid | I know they make it, just can't find it now that I actually want some. |
| 16:42.35 | LaBrAt | always the way |
| 16:42.59 | LaBrAt | will be back later tonight, cheers for your help guys. |
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| 18:47.27 | kergoth`lunch | hey raster |
| 18:47.28 | kergoth`lunch | whats goin on man |
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| 18:58.54 | Umaro | hello! |
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| 18:59.49 | ljp_work | hello umaro |
| 19:00.07 | Umaro | I just ordered a sharp zaurus online, and it is being shipped to me. But I am trying to mount the openzaurus initrd.bin so that I can look through how it's designed. but I can't seem to find what filesystem the initrd.bin is in? |
| 19:00.15 | kergoth | its jffs2 |
| 19:00.24 | Umaro | sweet. :) |
| 19:00.46 | Umaro | any suggestions on cf 802.11b cards? |
| 19:00.56 | kergoth | i'd go with the symbol/socket low power personally |
| 19:01.08 | Umaro | oh yeah? how much do those run? |
| 19:01.18 | Umaro | and they'll still do monitor mode, right? |
| 19:01.29 | kergoth | not sure on cost offhand, look around |
| 19:01.40 | kergoth | yeah, it supports monitor mode |
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| 19:02.50 | Umaro | cool |
| 19:03.25 | kergoth | if you dont get that one for cost or whatever, go with any prism 2.5/3 based card, due to the small formfactor |
| 19:03.36 | kergoth | the old prism2 cards were larger, blocked the headphone and/or stylus opening(s) |
| 19:03.50 | Umaro | okay, now i'm looking in my 2.4.20 config, and I don't see jffs2 |
| 19:04.02 | Umaro | i see jfs.. |
| 19:04.08 | kergoth | its there. |
| 19:04.18 | kergoth | journaling flash filesystem v2 |
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| 19:05.58 | Umaro | how strange. |
| 19:07.01 | Umaro | it doesn't show up in my menuconfig, but I changed the .config entry and it compiled. hmm. |
| 19:07.10 | kergoth | odd |
| 19:07.28 | ljp_work | can you even mount a jff2 image? |
| 19:08.30 | kergoth | not with -o loop |
| 19:08.31 | kergoth | but you can |
| 19:08.38 | Umaro | you can't do it with loop? |
| 19:08.51 | kergoth | nope |
| 19:08.56 | kergoth | jffs2 only works on mtd devices |
| 19:08.58 | kergoth | not block devices |
| 19:09.03 | kergoth | you can modprobe mtdram |
| 19:09.08 | kergoth | which is a mtd layer on a ramdisk |
| 19:09.10 | kergoth | dd the image onto it |
| 19:09.13 | kergoth | then mount that |
| 19:09.17 | kergoth | thats the only way |
| 19:09.55 | Umaro | hmm.. |
| 19:10.08 | Umaro | sounds like a lot of work. but oh well. |
| 19:11.04 | Umaro | maybe i'll feel up to it when I get food. |
| 19:11.29 | Umaro | so overall, how pleased are you guys with your zauruses? |
| 19:12.17 | Umaro | I mean, obviously being able to run linux on them rocks, but what about the pda itself? |
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| 19:13.31 | ljp_work | I lik emine |
| 19:13.40 | kergoth | I only started using mine as a pda recently |
| 19:13.42 | kergoth | so i cant really say |
| 19:13.43 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:13.53 | ljp_work | battery isnt what is should be |
| 19:14.23 | Umaro | oh? about how long does it last? |
| 19:14.59 | ljp_work | not long enough |
| 19:15.13 | Umaro | I wish there was a usb CF card. far fetched, but it would be cool. |
| 19:15.42 | ljp_work | usb host? |
| 19:15.55 | Umaro | yeah. like, for teh zaurus |
| 19:16.15 | Umaro | my cell phone can act as a modem via mini-usb |
| 19:17.00 | Umaro | anyway, gone for a bit |
| 19:17.16 | Umaro | nice talking to you, i'm sure I will be a regular here |
| 19:17.45 | cyn | there is. |
| 19:18.10 | cyn | http://www.ratocsystems.com/english/products/subpages/cfu1u.html |
| 19:18.42 | cyn | I dunno what kind of havoc it would cause if you had both usb host and usb slave stuff compiled into your Z though, you might have to leave off slave ability if you wanted to use that |
| 19:18.55 | cyn | or do some very specific detection :) |
| 19:19.17 | cyn | anyway, there's the hardware - no guarantees it would even work tho heh |
| 19:19.44 | ljp_work | the vercel has usb host and client |
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| 19:24.26 | pHluid | How come USB hasn't been implemented in PDA's thus far? |
| 19:24.43 | pHluid | Is there a big reason I'm missing or something? |
| 19:27.28 | ljp_work | space, money, and battery usage |
| 19:29.03 | pHluid | Space shouldn't be a prob |
| 19:29.16 | pHluid | usb controller chips are pretty damn small and you can use the mini-USB connectors |
| 19:29.21 | pHluid | Money... come on |
| 19:29.29 | pHluid | battery usage I could see. |
| 19:29.32 | kergoth | i'd say its primrarily battery consumption |
| 19:29.41 | pHluid | Bigtime, if there was no a/c adapter on it |
| 19:30.04 | pHluid | Still though, say a mini-USB connector -> self powered hub |
| 19:30.46 | pHluid | Would open up a world of options... Still prefer CF devices and whatnot, but it'd definately be nice to have the option |
| 19:33.30 | pHluid | http://www.usb.org/developers/onthego |
| 19:33.32 | pHluid | oh sweet. |
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| 20:23.38 | LaBrAt_ | Hi kergoth, I was speaking to you earlier regarding suspend after ... failing to kick in. Well it seems it only happens with the SerialIO USB cable. In the cradle it works fine |
| 20:23.49 | LaBrAt_ | Strange one |
| 20:23.55 | kergoth | weird |
| 20:24.16 | LaBrAt_ | kergoth: tell me bout it |
| 20:25.52 | LaBrAt_ | I only really need the display to be deactivated on the serialIO cable at work, it there a way to turn the LCD off with out involving suspend? |
| 20:25.56 | kergoth | it works fine in cradle with the AC plugged in? |
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| 20:28.06 | *** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus project - now a component of the larger Open Embedded infrastructure | Developers welcome in #openembedded |
| 20:28.15 | kergoth | ibot: wb! |
| 20:28.16 | | It's great to be back! |
| 20:28.19 | LaBrAt_ | I am confussed |
| 20:34.40 | LaBrAt_ | kergoth: is it a bug, if so worth loggin my friend? |
| 20:37.40 | kergoth | LaBrAt_: hard to say whose bug it is.. opie, kernel, what.. not sure. maybe email the serialio folks to see if they've heard o fit |
| 20:38.14 | LaBrAt_ | good idea, will let you know if I hear anything back |
| 20:38.32 | kergoth | okay, thanks |
| 20:52.30 | tboc | btw. got a problem with the libtoday*plugin - although its listed in /opt/QtPalmtop/plugins/today it won't show up within 'today'... |
| 20:56.57 | ljp_work | hmmmm |
| 20:57.14 | ljp_work | did you update today app but not the plugins? |
| 20:57.53 | tboc | no i just installed the plugins from the stable feed - the today app is from the 3.2 .bin |
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| 21:06.54 | kawsy | If I have sufficient space on a memory card for storage is it best to dl the 64+0 zimage? |
| 21:07.30 | kergoth | your call really. thats what i use personally |
| 21:08.03 | LaBrAt_ | gives you more space to play with apps etc |
| 21:08.21 | kawsy | I just got this thing.. Im not really to sure it was there was any other reason to leave some of the built in memory for storage |
| 21:12.43 | kawsy | I suppose its probably safer to do the flash while the power cable is plugged in instead of just the battery? |
| 21:12.54 | kergoth | yep |
| 21:13.12 | kawsy | Does this void the warrany? |
| 21:13.32 | kergoth | flashing oz? no |
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| 21:17.24 | Umaro | yay i'm here, again. |
| 21:18.02 | Umaro | so kergoth. what's unique about the oz kernel? |
| 21:18.30 | ljp_work | can play audio through the buzzer |
| 21:18.34 | Umaro | is it just that after 2.4.6, the arm arch hasn't been well supported, or? |
| 21:18.40 | kergoth | what? |
| 21:18.46 | Umaro | I mean, what would prevent me from compiling 2.4.20 on my zaurus. |
| 21:18.54 | ljp_work | sd driver |
| 21:18.56 | kergoth | theres no release of the RMK tree for 2.4.20 |
| 21:19.00 | kergoth | 2.4.19-rmk7 is the latest |
| 21:19.06 | Umaro | I'm not familiar with rmk |
| 21:19.09 | kergoth | and you'd need the 2.4.18 binary sd module that i cant release |
| 21:19.10 | kergoth | obviously. |
| 21:19.16 | kergoth | RMK is russell king, the linux-arm maintainer |
| 21:19.20 | Umaro | I see. |
| 21:19.28 | ljp_work | kergoth: you rinning that on your z yet? |
| 21:19.32 | ljp_work | running |
| 21:19.40 | kergoth | ljp_work: naw, needs a few finishing touches yet |
| 21:19.48 | kergoth | bunch of little shit |
| 21:22.17 | Umaro | I'm so excited for my zaurus. I should have gotten overnight shipping. |
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| 21:25.53 | ljp_work | I had my first Z handed to me personally |
| 21:26.03 | Umaro | oh yeah? gift? |
| 21:26.08 | Umaro | or did you buy it from a store? |
| 21:26.11 | ljp_work | the only shipping involved was me |
| 21:26.16 | ljp_work | nope |
| 21:26.44 | Umaro | I haven't found any local places that carry the zaurus. |
| 21:27.05 | ljp_work | sharp sent me to pick it up from them |
| 21:27.14 | kawsy | office depot was the only place in my area |
| 21:28.15 | kawsy | they tried to sell me the six month old floor model for 40 dollars off because there were out of stock and not going to carry the 5500 anymore.. |
| 21:28.25 | kawsy | I got if for cheaper than that new through amazon.com |
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| 23:01.39 | Umaro | kergoth: still here? |
| 23:01.58 | kergoth | no |
| 23:02.03 | Umaro | :) |
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| 23:40.59 | kergoth | win 17 |
| 23:41.02 | kergoth | damn / |
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