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00:31.09bronsonnichos: depends on who you ask.
00:31.18bronsonSome people claim mmc is faster b/c no encryption
00:31.27bronsonsome people claim SD is faster because it's new technology.
00:31.40bronsonSD appears to have higher densities, and they appear to be the same price.
00:31.51yebyenyeah, I haven't seen any 512mb SD cards
00:31.58yebyen*randomly joins conversation*
00:32.05bronsonPersonally, I'm about to buy the cheapest 256 MB card I can, no matter what the type.
00:32.36bronson(SD or MMC -- the CF slot is taken up by the wireless adapter)
00:33.06yebyenerr, I did mean to say MMC :)
00:33.13yebyeni HAVE seen 512mb sd cards
00:33.25bronsonYep.  Have you seen 256 MMC?
00:33.33bronsonTops MMC I've seen is 128.
00:33.35yebyenno, actually highest i've seen was 128
00:33.36yebyenyeah
00:33.39yebyenthen we concur
00:34.08absentia2? sd faslh?
00:34.14absentia2? sd flash?
00:34.25absentia2is that mmc ?
00:34.40bronsonMMC and SD fit in the same slot...  is that what you're asking?
00:35.20yebyenanyone know if qtopia desktop can be made to work with openzaurus ipkg's?
00:35.23absentia2well, doesn't sd mount as mmcda1? I get confused.. so there is a difference btween sd and mmc?
00:35.59yebyenthey both mount as the same thing, yeah
00:36.04bronsonSD supports encryption, MMC doesn't.
00:36.10yebyenfrom the user perspective, there's not much difference :)
00:36.14bronsonAFAIK, that's the only difference
00:36.25absentia2ok
00:36.31absentia2I have 512mb sd
00:36.37yebyenyeah :)
00:36.38yebyenheh
00:36.41yebyenthat's the other difference
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01:47.09rjuneDoes the today-weather plugin have a configuration program?
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02:45.56yebyendoes anyone use openzaurus unstable?
02:46.07yebyennot necessarily anyone here, I mean... does anyone at all use it
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03:08.41yebyenhm
03:08.44yebyenopiereader is nice
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10:04.10pizzathiefis it ok to post zaurus user questions here?
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10:40.55DaInfid3lI've recently flashed to OZ3.2. I eventually want to dump opie and have only a character interface with gcc but if I switch off without opie running, I can't power on again. anyone know any ways around this?
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16:54.44dmuellrkergoth?
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17:01.13dmuellrargh.
17:01.23dmuellrkg ping me when u r around
17:02.24dmuellrthere appear to be issues with irda libs..
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17:31.21kergothdmuellr: hey
17:45.38dmuellrkergoth
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17:46.08thegnomerhello there
17:46.11dmuellrr u aware of any bugs w/irda oblix libs?
17:46.45kergothyou mean obex? I'm not aware of any issues
17:47.22thegnomerIs OpenZaurus already working on Ipaq? If true, is it well supported (I mean, sound, power/suspend, bluetooth...)? SD cards are supported on OpenZaurus?
17:50.34trekeSD cards are not supported on ipaq
17:50.36trekeand never will be
17:50.43thegnomer:(
17:50.51trekesound works. powermanagement works.
17:50.57trekebluetooth probably works
17:51.20thegnomernice!
17:51.34thegnomerthen... do you recommend me OpenZaurus better than Familiar + Opie?
17:51.57trekesure
17:52.12trekeworks much better than 0.6.1 imo
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17:52.16trekenever tried 0.7
17:52.24dmuellrso im a little confused
17:52.25thegnomergreat
17:52.37thegnomerwhy SD will be *never* supported?
17:53.05trekethe CRL developers that maintain the kernel are not willing to write and support an SD driver
17:53.29thegnomer:/
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17:54.28dmuellrnoooooooo
17:54.29dmuellrkg
17:54.30thegnomerbut on Zaurus it works, isn't it?
17:54.35trekeyes
17:54.39thegnomeris not possible to use that module?
17:54.44trekeCRL doesnt maintain the Zaurus port of openzaurus
17:54.55trekeno
17:54.59thegnomerbecause they are both ARM processors
17:54.59dmuellrcan any of u verify the irda app works pls..
17:55.24dmuellras simple as tapping the icon and seeing if u get menu optns
17:55.33trekethe SD drivers are hardware specific. the ipaq and the zaurus arent the same hardware
17:55.49thegnomerI see...
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17:56.22thegnomerthen, I'll have to increment my ipaq weigth with a CF jacket :(
17:56.33trekeyou can use mmc
17:56.36thegnomer(and my wallet to lose weigth!)
17:56.40thegnomermmc?
17:56.43thegnomerbut...
17:56.45trekemmc cards
17:56.49dmuellrirda?
17:57.15thegnomerare there mmc cards with great storage capacity?
17:57.23thegnomerI mean... about 128Mb, for example
17:57.26treke128MB is available
17:57.41thegnomerand it's cheaper or more expensive than CF?
17:57.48thegnomerbecause I have already a CF card :)
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17:57.55trekeprobably more expensive. I havent priced it recently
17:58.06thegnomerok... I will check it
17:58.08trekethose however are your two options
17:58.09thegnomerwell... I must go now, but this night my Ipaq will run OpenZaurus... sure! ;)
17:58.14thegnomertreke: thx a lot!
17:58.22trekeibot oe-ipaq
17:58.23bugger all, i dunno, treke
17:58.29trekeibot oz-ipaq
17:58.29i heard oz-ipaq is http://openzaurus.org/official/experimental/h3600
17:58.36trekethats where the images are
17:59.17thegnomerhumm... great! You gave me more time to test it :)
17:59.36thegnomerthx again, and see you
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19:47.27rusty^_^hi
19:47.41rusty^_^anybody has wellenreiter working with oz?
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20:12.29zaurusloverfriends : Need some advice here ... from the C700 folks ... I am finally taking the plunge and ordering mine ... (conics.net)
20:12.46zaurusloveranyone here have the "AA" Battery charger (listed on the conics site) ? and also a Case (not listed) ?
20:12.55zaurusloveror rather recommendations for a case ?
20:15.36absentiacongrats.
20:16.01absentiaI have an extra battery and external charge
20:16.10absentiaI want to get that metal case.
20:16.12absentiabit I don't have it now
20:18.12zaurusloverabsentia :) thx :) ... which metal case ?
20:27.21zaurusloverabsentia ?
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21:28.30rusty^_^anybody has wellenreiter working with oz?
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22:33.59absentiaZhi from Sharp ROM
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23:32.59isrhi folks - Ive got a dumb question (I know - Im embarressed allready). I'm trying to install the terminal - I've uploaded the .ipkg via qtopia desktop, and its now in 'Documents', but when I try to install packages, it cant find them. ANy ideas? (thanks in advance)
23:33.17isr(BTW, this is with the standard Sharp ROM, so its not openzaurus specific)
23:55.06trekeask in #zaurus
23:55.13trekethis is a support channel for openzaurus

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